One Mana Spells Tier List for Commander

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@ApexZer0
@ApexZer0 2 жыл бұрын
You cant put death rite shaman and mana dorks in the same category. DRS has been called a 1 mana planeswalker and for good reason. The card is so flexible. Its graveyard hate a mana dork and incremental damage. It does not compare to birds 1 to 1 in any sense
@wchenful
@wchenful Жыл бұрын
Yeah true, DRS is much weaker than birds in most commander decks :(
@clokedman883
@clokedman883 2 жыл бұрын
10 months ago the nerds listed Swords as their 3rd best white card of all time for commander, and Esper Sentinel was 23rd on that list.
@afriendofafriend5766
@afriendofafriend5766 2 жыл бұрын
Yikes
@grubgobbler3917
@grubgobbler3917 2 жыл бұрын
Esper Sentinel is better on turn 1 though.
@Affinity001
@Affinity001 2 жыл бұрын
2 years ago cloakedman thought platinum angel was good...
@clokedman883
@clokedman883 2 жыл бұрын
Lol, I won't lie there was a time I thought Platinum Angel was good, but I wasn't disagreeing with them, just stating the facts for everyone else to see how the lists differ.
@Shamax0
@Shamax0 2 жыл бұрын
Hack frauds, I tells ya
@werideatdusk
@werideatdusk 2 жыл бұрын
Ponder and Preordain are A tier. I am no expert but I run em in every deck with blue in it and I never regret drawing either of those.
@jamesgratz4771
@jamesgratz4771 2 жыл бұрын
It’s trash bro gif gud bro
@trehenry413
@trehenry413 2 жыл бұрын
Preordain is much closer to A than ponder is. With preordain, you know where the cards you didnt want are going. With ponder, there is a chance you shuffle them away just to draw it anyway. I like ponder in a spellslinger deck, but not really anywhere else. Preordain tho fits into more deck archetypes.
@Logic-cg7qy
@Logic-cg7qy 2 жыл бұрын
I'm no expert either but they are both banned in Modern and played extensively in Legacy and Vintage so they are probably pretty good.
@trehenry413
@trehenry413 2 жыл бұрын
@@Logic-cg7qy as a 4 of most likely, and also in decks with a low curve so they can always cast multiple spells a turn. Banned in modern =/= good in commander.
@Logic-cg7qy
@Logic-cg7qy 2 жыл бұрын
@@trehenry413 I'm not equating the two formats, just card evaluation. But still, the best EDH decks also want a low curve and be casting multiple spells a turn.
@Nixon072
@Nixon072 2 жыл бұрын
Wheres deathrite shaman??? Clickbait
@IrrelevantGeOff
@IrrelevantGeOff 2 жыл бұрын
I love Crop Rotation in my elves decks since I can snag Cradle of Growth and slam it down after a lord grants them all forest walk
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 2 жыл бұрын
The emote! 100/10
@ButtshotJenkins
@ButtshotJenkins 2 жыл бұрын
Disagree with this list pretty hard. Still, I enjoy seeing the banter between you two.
@Logic-cg7qy
@Logic-cg7qy 2 жыл бұрын
If I'm running Necropotence, I'm running Dark Ritual. Same goes for Bolas's Citadel, and Ad Nauseam. It gives you the black pips you need and the card draw engine you play easily makes up for the card disadvantage.
@strelochk1n721
@strelochk1n721 2 жыл бұрын
It is also true with any commander which you wanna see on board early, like Gyruda or Yawgmoth, or Tasha.
@nebDDa
@nebDDa 2 жыл бұрын
Ponder and preordain are both amazing and an auto-include in any blue deck imo. I need a reason to NOT run them. Cast either one of them on turn 1 and smooth out your draws. Cast it on turn 10 and ensure you won’t draw a land next turn. They’re not draw spells, they just make your deck more consistent
@chriszhang4822
@chriszhang4822 2 жыл бұрын
💯 agree. I think of ponder as for 1 mana, you can make a 95-card commander deck. It gives you the best out of 3 cards. This makes it so you can remove redundancy and be a little more greedy in your deck building
@davidhouseman4328
@davidhouseman4328 2 жыл бұрын
Auto include sure, but amazing, not on a list with skullclamp or reanimate that can run games.
@keiharris332
@keiharris332 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidhouseman4328 the digging spell gets you those cards in more games. That is the point
@davidhouseman4328
@davidhouseman4328 2 жыл бұрын
@@keiharris332 that's why they are auto includes, but more games isn't the same as the actual card you want.
@AleOnYouTube
@AleOnYouTube 2 жыл бұрын
The thought process for building good decks is asking a reason TO RUN them, not the opposite as you suggest. Is there a reason for it? Then that’s good. I agree with you it’s just that entire thought process that leads to useless cards.
@calebhansen9316
@calebhansen9316 2 жыл бұрын
I've noticed my mana curve lowering significantly. Nearly a third of the spells I have in my Trostani, Selesnya's Voice are one drops
@jamesgratz4771
@jamesgratz4771 2 жыл бұрын
Cool
@vincentrutledge9445
@vincentrutledge9445 2 жыл бұрын
So many cedh staples…so little time.
@trehenry413
@trehenry413 2 жыл бұрын
Can confirm that Faithless Looting is amazing in Osgir. I have loved it every time I've resolved it. It basically reads "one red: draw 4 cards." And if I'm discarding artifact lands, then its a free spell that also ramps. Incredible over-performer in that deck.
@WayfarersBauble
@WayfarersBauble 2 жыл бұрын
27:58 Now that's some fire 🔥
@JonReid01
@JonReid01 2 жыл бұрын
🙌
@CrimsonQueso
@CrimsonQueso 2 жыл бұрын
where is carpet of flowers?! Land Tax,Tithe,Gamble,Imperial Seal also S/A tier. Entomb, Malakir Rebirth A tier, Also curse of OPulence, ragavan, weathered wayfarer deserve mentions in B/C
@NixTheMouse
@NixTheMouse 2 жыл бұрын
Nobody plays carpet anymore really, way too expensive for what it does nowadays
@vroomzoom4206
@vroomzoom4206 2 жыл бұрын
@@NixTheMouse what? Carpet is all over the place in cEDH... incredibly powerful card.
@NixTheMouse
@NixTheMouse 2 жыл бұрын
​@@vroomzoom4206 Well good thing this is a EDH list and nobody plays it in EDH anymore becaus it's way too expensive for what it does :)
@vroomzoom4206
@vroomzoom4206 2 жыл бұрын
@@NixTheMouse it's not though. Even in casual free mana every turn is strong.
@jackrosen1
@jackrosen1 2 жыл бұрын
@@vroomzoom4206 They mean price expensive, cards like $20
@TheBarvaz
@TheBarvaz 2 жыл бұрын
But moxfield costs 0... Its free :P
@ButtshotJenkins
@ButtshotJenkins 2 жыл бұрын
Well played, that made me smile
@bryanleblanc5648
@bryanleblanc5648 2 жыл бұрын
JoeCherries: if you find a flaw, YOU'RE FLAWED NOT THEM Beezy: OK calm down, let's go to mystic re- JoeCherries: IF YOU SO MUCH AS LOOK AT MOXFIELD WRONG I WILL- Beezy: Mystic remora! Mystic remora. What a card. (Don't worry Joe they all already use Moxfield, just calm down)
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 2 жыл бұрын
Accurate 😂
@Marocax
@Marocax 2 жыл бұрын
Village rites is great in token decks. Its 1 Skull Clamp activation. Some players use skull clamp 2 in a game and are happy with the results. Village rites is very useful
@breakingtide
@breakingtide 2 жыл бұрын
It goes Preordain, Ponder and then brainstorm. I never play brainstorm outside double draw decks. Peordain let's u toss crap cards off the top to the bottom to get closer to a good card. Ponder let's u see if the top is crop and reshuffle to get something better. Brainstorm you are stuck with the top cards good or not but then replace them with the worst cards in your hand. Ponder and preordain are blue auto includes like green has rampant growths
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 2 жыл бұрын
I will agree with anyone who praises Preordain
@athody1734
@athody1734 2 жыл бұрын
Surprised by the hate on village rites, it’s similar to a 1 off skull clamp at instant speed. I would think if you are in a black deck that runs skull clamp you would also run village rites.
@chadbauer
@chadbauer 2 жыл бұрын
One off..key word... Why would people play one-offs nowadays
@tbclabamba8051
@tbclabamba8051 2 жыл бұрын
@@chadbauer because they are efficient and replace themselves instantly which means you find your game winning cards faster
@austingentri
@austingentri 2 жыл бұрын
I'd much rather just have another creature in a sac deck. There are so many better options in black that I'd never turn to village rites. Black also has plenty of ways to get card draw on creatures and there's just more synergy there in a sac deck
@tbclabamba8051
@tbclabamba8051 2 жыл бұрын
I still dont like village rites that much tbh 😅
@chadbauer
@chadbauer 2 жыл бұрын
@@tbclabamba8051 find them faster by digging 2 deep in a 100 card format....
@markdziamski4859
@markdziamski4859 2 жыл бұрын
Serious about Village Rites? Every aristocrats deck with black. One mana turn any chump block into 2 new cards
@tbclabamba8051
@tbclabamba8051 2 жыл бұрын
You dont get advantage. You trade 2 cards for 2 cards. I dont think it is trash but i think having sac outlets and static effects that draw you cards when creatures are dying is the better choice
@markdziamski4859
@markdziamski4859 2 жыл бұрын
@@tbclabamba8051 true but you don’t always have those out on the board. This is just away to dig further into your deck. I almost always draw something good off it
@lovetownsend
@lovetownsend 2 жыл бұрын
Pulled Vampiric Tutor and Apex Devastator in same commander box, realized I could Tutor an 9 mana spell to top of deck then Apex would play it free. Probably my first combo ever I thought of myself lol
@centuriesamvs4565
@centuriesamvs4565 2 жыл бұрын
I'm always so confused as to why they put path below swords. Just run BOTH in the SAME DECK. That land is not gonna matter if you get rid of their kozilek or something I promise.
@dragonrealms4269
@dragonrealms4269 2 жыл бұрын
I agree that running both is the best choice, but "why the swords are higher" is a weird question. They are higher because life is worse than a land. The card is straight up better. On top of that, you are not always will be getting rid of Kozilek. Sometimes you will be getting rid of something much smaller and giving them a free land will feel awful.
@sambrown9475
@sambrown9475 2 жыл бұрын
Even grabbing a ancient tomb with crop rotation is decent
@GONZUdAce11
@GONZUdAce11 2 жыл бұрын
Cantrips like ponder, preordain and brainstorm are 100% better than faithless looting. Faithless looting puts you down in card advantage. Also cantrips have tons of sinergies, a lot more than a 1 time discard effect.
@trehenry413
@trehenry413 2 жыл бұрын
100%, i dont think so. Brainstorm is great if you can shuffle the cards you put back. And if you care even the slightest bit about graveyard synergy, then faithless looting will almost always perform better. It having flashback is just the icing on the cake.
@DanZigs79
@DanZigs79 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone even thinking about playing village rites should play plumb the forbidden instead
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299 2 жыл бұрын
Most played one drop in commander? Sol Ring, Wayfarer Bauble...proceeds to watch video LOL ;p
@ThomasB-zw3sg
@ThomasB-zw3sg 2 жыл бұрын
I came for the Deathrite Shaman in the thumbnail.
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely my pick for best mana dork
@ReoRayearth27
@ReoRayearth27 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree with nature's claim's ranking. It is easily A tier. It shuts down early game ramp like sol rings, mana vaults, and mana crypts. Hits mystic remoras, skull clamp, a lot of the fast artifact/enchantment shenanigans. Authority of the consuls, sigarda's aid, the list is huge. Nature's claim is easily S tier. If mana dorks are, then so is Claim.
@moopuspoopus
@moopuspoopus 2 жыл бұрын
Red artifact storm decks love faithless looting. Regular storm decks love faithless looting. Spellslinger/Flashback decks love faithless looting (usually also storm decks). Definitely better in decks where you can recur cards in your graveyard, and red has no issue recurring artifacts (Scrap Welder/Goblin Welder type effects, or things like Scrap Mastery/Daretti, Scrap Savant). But in decks that abuse symmetry with Goblin Welder or the like, Faithless is SO good. I'd personally put it in mid-B.
@jordantigner289
@jordantigner289 2 жыл бұрын
I use crop rotation to get my world tree for color fixing. Best use? Maybe not but it works for me
@LVMTG
@LVMTG 2 жыл бұрын
As the format continues to speed up, this tier list is going to continue to grow in importance. I can only imagine how quickly commander games will go in the next couple of years.
@reveneth
@reveneth 2 жыл бұрын
the gap between edh and cedh will be getting smaller and smaller, speedwise.
@LVMTG
@LVMTG 2 жыл бұрын
@@reveneth You are right. It has been unreal lately.
@strelochk1n721
@strelochk1n721 2 жыл бұрын
@@reveneth The EdH-CEDH gap is still really big, it’s not about the speed after all.
@trehenry413
@trehenry413 2 жыл бұрын
I think its a good thing overall to speed the games up. I would much rather play 2-3 games, than one incredibly long one filled with 6+ mana spells.
@strelochk1n721
@strelochk1n721 2 жыл бұрын
@@trehenry413 It is a good thing! Imo “Old school” casual commander was heavily dominated by Grindy hyper-value green decks, which made more tempo oriented Color’s like red and white so bad. Playing them felt like crippling yourself. With format becoming faster (and, obvious with better red/white cards), red rituals as well as white stax pieces/disruption are becoming better even in casual tables, now greedy hyper-value decks are constantly at risk of being destroyed early in the game. Which is great!
@swongstrong
@swongstrong 2 жыл бұрын
Surprised that Serra Ascendant wasn't included in the list!
@strelochk1n721
@strelochk1n721 2 жыл бұрын
I think the cards is way too niche. 1 mana 6/6 lifelink flying, might sound bonkers, but in reality, only life-gain and stax decks autoinclude it Something what kills a single opponent in 8 turns, and does nothing else, is not a big thing.
@swongstrong
@swongstrong 2 жыл бұрын
@@strelochk1n721 I can see your point, and perhaps it's meta dependent, but in my experience at least, I've seen more Serra Ascendants played than Village Rites. Valid point with the 8 turn clock though!
@andrewperkins7428
@andrewperkins7428 2 жыл бұрын
the ponders and brainstorms are goated if you're playing around them ala Yuriko for sure. Def not needed in every deck but if you need that top deck manipulation and not shuffling. s tier
@ferdithetank7535
@ferdithetank7535 2 жыл бұрын
Some high to cEDH power level decks use those cantrips to secure landdrops, since they usually go greedy on lands.
@ChichimonLeagues
@ChichimonLeagues 2 жыл бұрын
Why do people play Wild Growth and not Utopia Sprawl? Besides budget and deckbuilding mistakes, is there a reason?
@zotmaster
@zotmaster 2 жыл бұрын
Utopia Sprawl can only enchant a forest, which depending on how many colors and how many (and what kinds) of duals you use, can be a bit of a problem.
@Alucardtube636
@Alucardtube636 2 жыл бұрын
Well Gild Growth is chep if it is not foil the foil is imposible it needs a full art foil reprint asap
@philvess6376
@philvess6376 2 жыл бұрын
Completely forgot vandalblast was a 1mana spell, as I'm always overloading it.
@Grooove_e
@Grooove_e 2 жыл бұрын
Wayfarer's Bauble over Expedition Map? Or are they equal to some extent? Curious to see what people think
@ferdithetank7535
@ferdithetank7535 2 жыл бұрын
Bauble is colourless Rampant Growth while Map is same for Sylvan Scrying. They have different purposes.
@Grooove_e
@Grooove_e 2 жыл бұрын
@@ferdithetank7535 alright here's a scenario; urzas saga to expedition map to really good land ( Cradle, sanctum, nyx, deserted temple, coffers, yawgmoth) OR just go urzas saga to sol ring?
@thork_tv
@thork_tv 2 жыл бұрын
Top is my alternativ way to Draw my Deck during Magda Combo (first comes Academy Manufakturer) because it can be tutored by Magda and goes back into the library
@IrrelevantGeOff
@IrrelevantGeOff 2 жыл бұрын
Swords to Plowshares and Path to Exile should switch names with farmers working the land and all
@lukeoutbelow
@lukeoutbelow 2 жыл бұрын
Vandalblast is a tough card to rank. At face value, its overload is incredibly powerful but it more often than not can be super clunky. Spending 5 mana on an artifact wipe seems solid but if your opponents aren't running many artifacts and you aren't aware of that, you could be holding onto a 5 mana destroy two sol rings.
@strelochk1n721
@strelochk1n721 2 жыл бұрын
That is so true!
@phyrexianhypebeast
@phyrexianhypebeast 2 жыл бұрын
@12:19 - You guys referencing NATURALIZE as opposed to DISENCHANT is yet another way content creators make me feel old. Thank you! haha
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 2 жыл бұрын
Anytime 😂
@crawdaddy2004
@crawdaddy2004 2 жыл бұрын
I have decks that don’t play Sol Ring (my Minna and Denn deck and my Tuvasa deck). The only deck that contains white that doesn’t run Swords to Plowshares is Tuvasa.
@jacob510
@jacob510 2 жыл бұрын
Thoughts on crop rotation: "it puts you down a card" ya so does Demonic tutor but having access to your best card is just so good, even if it's just a land. Of course you do need at least one land that you want every game otherwise it's worthless
@RecoveringSpartan
@RecoveringSpartan 2 жыл бұрын
Did you mean vampiric tutor?
@jacob510
@jacob510 2 жыл бұрын
@@RecoveringSpartan I didnt, but that's probably a better comparison
@Logic-cg7qy
@Logic-cg7qy 2 жыл бұрын
​@@jacob510 Demonic Tutor doesn't actually put you down a card. Unlike Vampiric.
@SkillandLuckCRAPS
@SkillandLuckCRAPS 2 жыл бұрын
Do Bonus Content By Making Two Mana Tier List then Three Mana Tier list and so on
@ryork12
@ryork12 2 жыл бұрын
Mom and Dad stop fighting about Faithless Looting 😭
@alexcaffri9091
@alexcaffri9091 2 жыл бұрын
Wait isn’t moxfield (0)mana? Still playable at (1) tho
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 2 жыл бұрын
It’s whatever we need it to be, maybe it’s an X spell 😂
@andrewpatterson5208
@andrewpatterson5208 2 жыл бұрын
Some of my favorites are probably land tax and hardened scales. Scales is more niche so I get its exclusion.
@evanelliott8231
@evanelliott8231 2 жыл бұрын
If you have Black market connections in your deck run dark ritual. Like the odds of both being in opening hand is low but man when it happens it’s good
@ferdithetank7535
@ferdithetank7535 2 жыл бұрын
Or a cmc 3 black commander
@stevefink2824
@stevefink2824 2 жыл бұрын
Pognify and Faithless Looting are better than Ponder and Preordain. What a world we live in.
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 2 жыл бұрын
In Commander* In our opinion*
@chasm9557
@chasm9557 2 жыл бұрын
I think Village Rites fits well in theft decks that have black because instead of giving back a creature, you pay an extra black to kill it and draw 2, and you get around indestructible with it. Other than that, I get why you guys don't think the card is good, but I'll stand on the it's-got-a-niche-that-makes-it-really-good-in-really-specific-strategies hill.
@zxxDarkLightxxz
@zxxDarkLightxxz 2 жыл бұрын
Agree. Very niche though.
@chasm9557
@chasm9557 2 жыл бұрын
@@zxxDarkLightxxz I also like it in token decks that make tons of tiny tokens as a 1 time skullclamp effect. Definitely not nearly as good, since it's a one time only thing as opposed to recurrable, but sometimes just thinning your deck by th a t extra 2 cards gets you close enough to a card to help you answer a threat or advance your board state enough to secure the game.
@TheUltimateRey
@TheUltimateRey 2 жыл бұрын
Faithless looting is great in spellslinger decks that care about the amount of instants and sorceries in your graveyard
@zxxDarkLightxxz
@zxxDarkLightxxz 2 жыл бұрын
Yay 😄 I'm gonna play it in my upcoming Niv Mizzet deck
@Hyxtrem
@Hyxtrem 2 жыл бұрын
I do run both Utopia Sprawl and Wild Growth in my Naya deck; it's so silly. I ramp too fast with this. I don't know why people don't put them as staples in their deck.
@strelochk1n721
@strelochk1n721 2 жыл бұрын
Both of those cards are quite old, and were always played in competitive. But nobody was talking about them in casual, so they were just ignored for no real reason! And those cards are not really unique in this matter EdH Moment
@t.m.2415
@t.m.2415 2 жыл бұрын
you have to build around Brainstorm ????? What?
@fdrehug7318
@fdrehug7318 2 жыл бұрын
I think dark ritual should be B tier, decks that have 3 cmc and 4 cmc commnaders in black want this to turbo out the commander
@smoker6683
@smoker6683 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, it's incredible.
@quietone6848
@quietone6848 2 жыл бұрын
K'rrik has brought lots of terror to my playgroup turn 1 using dark ritual paired with sol ring or some other strong mana rock. Or a mere swamp pair with Jeweled Lotus. XD
@lefeal9707
@lefeal9707 2 жыл бұрын
One big benefit of village rites is instant speed. Someone is trying to exile your creature? You still get value, they go down a card, and your creature goes into GY rather than exile.
@kevinhulvey7018
@kevinhulvey7018 2 жыл бұрын
Only problem is that all sac outlets can be done at instant speed and they don’t have to sit in hand
@lefeal9707
@lefeal9707 2 жыл бұрын
@@kevinhulvey7018 Most can't sit in hand, and are on board plays that anyone can see. They're not going to try and exile something if they see an ashnods alter or viscera seer without dealing with them first.
@charlesmaillho367
@charlesmaillho367 2 жыл бұрын
@@lefeal9707 I'm with you on village rites. I feel it has a lot more versatility and upside than what they are giving it. There are also a lot of creatures that have death triggers now compared to years ago. Maybe you don't have access to a sac outlet currently but this provides it.
@bgtmscotty3146
@bgtmscotty3146 2 жыл бұрын
i use village rites in my zombie deck as card draw because i make tokens, and what's so bad about cantrips almost every deck that has blue or red uses them especially feather its also used in every cEDH with blue with people either casting opt, brainstorm or ponder, niv-mizzet also gets a lot of value off of cantrips because then it turns into do something draw a card and deal a damage and when you have things like thousand year storm and arcane bombardment they become pretty insane and you dont need synergy for cantrips either why do you think vamp tutor is so good, you vamp tutor then cantrip drawing you the card that you tutored for, you overlook a lot for cantrips thinking you need stuff like Storm-Kiln Artist to make them any good because cantrips are amazingly powerful
@montekristo643
@montekristo643 2 жыл бұрын
Do this for free spells next!
@thork_tv
@thork_tv 2 жыл бұрын
I would counter a pongifiy it that styfels a win for me Also almost any one Mana Tutor is awesome. gamble, entomp, the elementar, imp seal
@Attivian
@Attivian 2 жыл бұрын
I had my turn one Burgeoning countered by Swan Song by my friend. I swore to attack him with that bird and nothing but that bird until it died. That bird did 12 damage overall.
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 2 жыл бұрын
The bird was born of vengeance
@davidmaynard8876
@davidmaynard8876 2 жыл бұрын
Homies.... Wheres expedition map? Have I forgotten the mana cost??
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 2 жыл бұрын
It was actually the next card in the list, we went by the most-played one drops
@GrimmTutelage
@GrimmTutelage 2 жыл бұрын
Guessing 17:32 for Moxfield. Have a good day guys!
@davidhouseman4328
@davidhouseman4328 2 жыл бұрын
Seemed a bit to inconsistent between power cards and auto include low impact.
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 2 жыл бұрын
Could have potentially moved Sentinel to A Tier, but it's tough when both factor in!
@kqawiyy
@kqawiyy 2 жыл бұрын
I think Serra Ascendant is a good one to consider. Not too useful in the late game, but early on it's a 1 mana 6/6 flying lifelink! The lifelink of course helps with keeping Itself a 6/6, and really helps pad your total with other staples that make you lose life like Mana crypt, Sylvan Library, Necropotence, Fetches, etc.
@mhare0
@mhare0 2 жыл бұрын
Wow I'm shocked that you put brainstorm in C tear because I think brainstorm is amazing in commander and a lot of people are starting to play it more because it's super good just go watch the command zone episode where they talk about cantrip spells like brainstorm they call them smoothers
@vfreeman3188
@vfreeman3188 2 жыл бұрын
Reality your paying a fee to have consistency, mid to high that fee is too much when your synergy is on point.
@Goldscorpio7
@Goldscorpio7 2 жыл бұрын
Uh the higher level of play you go the better brainstorm gets
@listeningtomusic7665
@listeningtomusic7665 2 жыл бұрын
Ponder and Preordain are irreplaceable auto-includes. They circumvent randomness in a similar manner to tutors. If you’re deck is redundant it’s close to Gamble. By itself Preordain makes your next draw spell better. They’re dorky looking but they’re not fair cards.
@vfreeman3188
@vfreeman3188 2 жыл бұрын
Reality your paying a fee to have consistency, mid to high tier that fee is too much when your synergy is on point.
@jacobpyeatt5024
@jacobpyeatt5024 2 жыл бұрын
holy hell this was insufferable yuck.
@ButtshotJenkins
@ButtshotJenkins 2 жыл бұрын
I felt like I listened to randoms at a card shop than people who know the game.
@jamesgratz4771
@jamesgratz4771 2 жыл бұрын
Why was it insufferable
@jacobpyeatt5024
@jacobpyeatt5024 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesgratz4771 the lack of knowledge compiled with the awkwardness and all around tone was really terrible the comment above explained very well.
@vroomzoom4206
@vroomzoom4206 2 жыл бұрын
7:28 faithless is not replaceable at all in the slot it takes if you want it for filling graveyard and card selection in hand. It enable so many different cards it's incredible.
@logandevine4225
@logandevine4225 2 жыл бұрын
further, when Cherries was talking about cards that let you draw and discard cards all in one instance/card i understand the point they are making saying faithless looting is one of the best, but i really think breakthrough is the card that secretly shines in that role that most of those highly tuned graveyard decks they were mentioning were already high on. i agree with your take on looting though, the low investment and modality the spell allows the user is just wonderful, even for non graveyard decks
@chadbauer
@chadbauer 2 жыл бұрын
What red decks use graveyard? Alesha...
@LRSSkySoldier
@LRSSkySoldier 2 жыл бұрын
@@chadbauer Korvold
@vroomzoom4206
@vroomzoom4206 2 жыл бұрын
@@chadbauer flashback, underworld breach, mizzix's mastery, delve, izzet and rackdos have a lot that care about graveyards.
@moopuspoopus
@moopuspoopus 2 жыл бұрын
@@chadbauer For Mono Red? #1 - Daretti, Scrap Savant.
@lysander3262
@lysander3262 2 жыл бұрын
This is a pet peeve of mine. If a card is not a permanent that you can DROP on the battlefield, on curve, it's not a goddamn drop. The term comes from playing on curve being extremely important in high level Limited play, so cards that are not necessarily the most powerful are played because a deck needs something to make good use of its mana. Brainstorm is not a 1 drop- you don't fire off Brainstorm whenever you have a spare mana. Mogg Fanatic is a 1 drop- when you have one mana, go ahead and drop it. Having lots of spells like this lets you double-spell on turn 2-3. Counterspell is not a 2 drop. While it gives you something to do on turn 2, you again shouldn't just be casting it willy nilly and it doesn't affect the board. Snapcaster Mage is usually not a 2 drop. Despite it costing 2 and impacting the board, you usually play it as a specific spell recursion piece with 1-3 mana extra mana available. Dark Confidant is a 2 drop. Drop it early and often to get the best effect out of it. A high density of these cards along with one drops also lets you double spell on turns 3-4. Rampant Growth is close to being a 2 drop. You usually want to cast it early and often to get the most turns with the extra mana. It does leave a permanent on the battlefield. Likewise Raise the Alarm, Lingering Souls, etc. Signets are 2 drops. Lovestruck Beast is a 1 drop and a 3 drop. Awesome! There is no such thing as a 7 drop. 7 is not a point on the mana curve that needs to be considered in order to optimize tempo. You might slam it on the table if you topdeck a land for it, but you can't consider this being on time. If you hear someone call Expropriate a "9 drop" please scoff audibly. That's not a goddamn drop and they know it!
@bububu__
@bububu__ 2 жыл бұрын
nice vid! 2 drops tier list soon?
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 2 жыл бұрын
Let’s see how this one does! 👀
@strattaravar
@strattaravar 2 жыл бұрын
Faithless Looting and effects like it are a staple in my Veyren spellslinger/storm deck. It's extremely helpful to get storm count up and then use Looting to churn through a bunch of cards, while getting rid of dead draws and then firing off a Mizzix's Mastery or Finale of Promise to close out a game.
@NinjaTerd473
@NinjaTerd473 2 жыл бұрын
So the thing is, Dark Ritual gets my 7 drop commander out on turn 2. S Tier for me. Gotta love Phyrexian Black pips
@benbarclay4239
@benbarclay4239 2 жыл бұрын
I get higher and higher on crop rotation every time I use it. Card is insane, it does soooo much.
@strelochk1n721
@strelochk1n721 2 жыл бұрын
To play crop-rot you need a few lands which you will tutor. (Or just a single Gayá’s or Serra’s) It’s completely pointless if you don’t include some
@benbarclay4239
@benbarclay4239 2 жыл бұрын
@@strelochk1n721 Obviously. To play mystical tutor you need some instants/sorceries that you'll tutor. To play worldy tutor you should probly have some creatrues worth tutoring. The difference is that crop rotation fits into way more decks, as even in a low power setting something like rotating your forest away into a myriad landscape when you missed land drops can be good, and now your rotation is a ramp spell. There are tons of budget tech lands that can be worth tutoring, it doesn't just have to be for a Cradle.
@strelochk1n721
@strelochk1n721 2 жыл бұрын
@@benbarclay4239 Every deck runs removal, and utility spells, green/creature oriented decks run a ton of creatures, lots of decks got “second commanders” which they want to consistently find and play on curve. Tldr Wordly/Mystic are FAR more versatile and easy to include than crop rot, it’s a fine choice for a very specific type of deck, with lots of utility lands, but the truth is, utility lands suck most of the time. For most of them playing a 1 mana ramp will be just better. (Llanowar elf is a million times better play than crop rotting for myriad landcape)
@Logic-cg7qy
@Logic-cg7qy 2 жыл бұрын
It being an Instant can also lead to some of my favorite plays, getting a Glacial Chasm or Bojuka Bog at instant speed feels amazing.
@benbarclay4239
@benbarclay4239 2 жыл бұрын
@@strelochk1n721 You're missing the point of the myriad landscape example. That was to illustrate the extent to which crop rotation can be useful, you're probly not making this play when you've got your llanowar elves and other ramp out. You said that in order for crop rotation to be good you need to have lands to tutor for.. lol well yes exactly just like for worldly to be good u need creatures. The immense utility of crop rotation is what makes it so good. If you're not running utility lands, I can help show you how to include them and improve your decks : )
@HurjaZac
@HurjaZac 2 жыл бұрын
Wayfarer's Bauble and Lurrus of the Dream-Den type effects go so well together not that its the best thing you can do whit Lurrus not by far but it has worked so well for me crazy mana great deck thinning good filler when you don't have what you need in your grave yet
@ajclark5079
@ajclark5079 2 жыл бұрын
I use a brainstorm when I get alehmeters archive out.
@wesleypollek4637
@wesleypollek4637 2 жыл бұрын
Crop rotation is so sweet if you copy it, even with more budget lands like the double bounce lands. Feels so good in my kalamax deck turning one spent land into an izzet boilerworks and gruul turf, netting 3 mana for the cost of 1 and ensuring further land drops in future turns
@matthewdisbrow507
@matthewdisbrow507 2 жыл бұрын
I was surprised that they did not include Ivory Tower. Colorless life gain is awesome.
@kNightPhantom392
@kNightPhantom392 2 жыл бұрын
I like how everyone is butt hurt the nerds gave low tier scores to cards ppl run in their decks. "Im no EXPERT but i use this card all the time..." Blah blah blah. Village rite sucks, ponder and preordain are overrated. But if you were EXPERTS, you would know that. Step your power level up EXPERTS
@suckadoesstuff7095
@suckadoesstuff7095 2 жыл бұрын
I have been known to path to exile some of my own creatures early game to gain mana advantage and to get a shuffle in which can't hurt half the time especially early on
@Grooove_e
@Grooove_e 2 жыл бұрын
That is some big brain thinking. I don't know anyone that's considered using it as your own mana advantage. Just ping a token for another land...
@suckadoesstuff7095
@suckadoesstuff7095 2 жыл бұрын
@@Grooove_e there's a lot of stuff I do that would be considered unorthodox by most but it almost always works perfectly for myself so I'ma keep doin it and I encourage you and anyone else readin to do similar shit and seein how it works for ya
@zxxDarkLightxxz
@zxxDarkLightxxz 2 жыл бұрын
I also hadn't actually even thought of using Path to Exile on my own creatures before Beezy started talking about it on this channel... Lol
@wchenful
@wchenful Жыл бұрын
Great list - the only card which is strongly disagree with is Mana Crypt - it should be either top of A or S. While it does share some similarities with ritual effects, the key difference is that it's a permanent which allows you to pay for it on one turn and then bank it and use it on the next turn. This means that it effectively ramps by 3 instead of dark ritual's 2. The use case for this is way broader than you gave it credit for in this video. Any commander which has a 2-3 colourless pip in its casting cost would be massively powered up by crypt. A t1 mana crypt allows for a t2 gitrog monster or t3 tivit with no other assistance at all. It can easily break a game just as quickly as sol ring does. Also - reusing mana crypt isn't limited to just untapping. It also has amazing synergy with mass flicker effects and bounce.
@ohno5559
@ohno5559 2 жыл бұрын
I will die on the hill that ponder and preordain belong in every blue deck without specific antisynergy. They cost basically nothing, when you play them you're not spending a slot on them you're removing that slot altogether, with the upside of additional card selection. This is even more true outside cEDH where you're more likely to have spare mana and less likely to encounter hate against them (e.g. Chalice of the Void).
@Ohzark
@Ohzark 2 жыл бұрын
Faithless looting is really strong in feldon the third path aswell
@CapnSnackbeard
@CapnSnackbeard Жыл бұрын
Maybe Brainstorm and the other cantrips are on the list because Sensie's Top combo draw decks are popular? They are all 1 mana spells that go together, and a deck with the Top is going to tend to be in blue, and will focus on card draw, and deck manipulation. Makes sense they'd all be popular together.
@matthewbell4897
@matthewbell4897 2 жыл бұрын
Blind guessing the moxfield promo at 17:42
@sixzerotwo
@sixzerotwo 2 жыл бұрын
Nerds, If you dont like Village Rites perhaps you can suggest a 1 mana flash creature that sacrifices one of your creatures on etb and leaves you with 2 new cards in hand? I mean if the criteria is that it is only used in a creature deck that you can't play non-creature spells in. Presumingly the same creature deck that can still run a Skullclamp however. It's almost like you don't want to run interaction in creature based decks the way you talk about this card.
@matthewcopsey1994
@matthewcopsey1994 Жыл бұрын
Doesn't do enough to justify it's inclusion I guess. +1 card isn't in the same league as skullclamp.
@sinnaro13
@sinnaro13 2 жыл бұрын
Thinking about the "So big!" comment, one of the normal EDH opponents has a cockatoo that spreads his wings out to that, so that's where my mind went.
@tylerard6224
@tylerard6224 Жыл бұрын
Preordain seems rather interesting in a mono blue scry style commander deck, especially if you use the partners that one says when It attacks you scry x for the number of fliers then you have the when you scry any number of cards you draw instead now preordain is giving you three cards, not cdh but a fun and interesting mechanic to consider
@mcculloughfamily6984
@mcculloughfamily6984 2 жыл бұрын
In my Selvala deck I'll crop rotation to snag Wirewood lodge when I have a large enough creature to make it worth it. Snagging a reliquary tower after a big storm card draw is nice too
@drewpapenhoven5823
@drewpapenhoven5823 2 жыл бұрын
18:42, but I’m sure I’m wrong. Say hi to Amber.
@vroomzoom4206
@vroomzoom4206 2 жыл бұрын
How... do you rate ponder below brainstorm? Ponder lets you look at top 3 then shuffle if you dont like them. Brainstorm needs something else to shuffle the cards you put on top. Ponder def better especially in a casual setting.
@byronstier7438
@byronstier7438 2 жыл бұрын
Brainstorm is instant and gets better the better your deck is. It's ceiling destroys ponder, and the floor is better - instant speed cantrip.
@vroomzoom4206
@vroomzoom4206 2 жыл бұрын
@@byronstier7438 ponder as a stand alone card in a casual setting is significantly better.
@madmax258285
@madmax258285 2 жыл бұрын
I think it depends on the synergy you are looking for. I think if you have cards that care about drawing cards and how many you draw like locust god for example then brainstorm gets way better but ponder is just versatile. I think they both shouldve been ranked the same personally but i can see the argument for one being better depending on the deck. Same thing with preordain
@vroomzoom4206
@vroomzoom4206 2 жыл бұрын
@@madmax258285 yeah, but with 0 synergy Ponder heavily outperforms brainstorm so in a casual setting ponder is going to be better the majority of the time.
@trehenry413
@trehenry413 2 жыл бұрын
@@vroomzoom4206 what is that based on though? Even casual decks run evolving wild type cards. That alone makes it better than ponder. Outside of a spellslinger deck, what is ponder really doing for you? With brainstorm, you can also take advantage of the fact that you know what you're drawing. Miracle effects for example would much prefer brainstorm to ponder.
@Sparrow141420
@Sparrow141420 2 жыл бұрын
My best guess for Moxfield will be 14:20
@Sparrow141420
@Sparrow141420 2 жыл бұрын
damn
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 2 жыл бұрын
good guess :p
@peterrowley110
@peterrowley110 2 жыл бұрын
My only disagreement would be Moxfield. Seems more like it would be 0 mana cost like many other moxen
@alexMendoza-wl5oj
@alexMendoza-wl5oj 2 жыл бұрын
Char rumbler, well I'll be damned
@alexMendoza-wl5oj
@alexMendoza-wl5oj 2 жыл бұрын
Where's you gonna be in FL, let's play in Pensacola. Bring your cat
@xtensioncordtv1969
@xtensioncordtv1969 11 ай бұрын
Dowsing dagger has a lower ceiling than skullclamp but is less of a build around and has a much higher floor.
@chaosky9
@chaosky9 2 жыл бұрын
ponde and preordain are easy A cards. Brainstorm is an easy S card the card is nearly as good as ancestral recall for a reason. For reason reason u gave sensei's diving top S tier also applies to brainstorm, preordain and ponder.
@claightonenglish8895
@claightonenglish8895 2 жыл бұрын
Can't be disrespecting the king of all one drop goblins by not putting Goblin Lackey on the list.
@pizzapm
@pizzapm 2 жыл бұрын
I lovemoxfield and use it for all my decks, however a small quality of life change that I would want for moxfield is the ability to change the spelling of tags without having to change each card individually. Like if I have 10 cards under the tag 'Card draw' and wanted to change them all to 'Card Advantage', I don't want to have to click on the little arrow, then click 'change tags', then change the tag myself. Currently when you click the name of the tag in bold, theres a small drop down with 'Copy section to clipboard' and 'Buy all', Id love for there to be a third 'Rename tag' option
@andrewperkins7428
@andrewperkins7428 2 жыл бұрын
if you hold "shift" then left click you instantly go to the tag area. less buttons my friend. Not exactly a solution but a bandaid.
@pizzapm
@pizzapm 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewperkins7428 Thanks good to know! thank you!
@fosterdawson7339
@fosterdawson7339 2 жыл бұрын
Moxfield guess: 20:23
@ben_clifford
@ben_clifford 2 жыл бұрын
So, all the one-mana cards that are either proper ramp or repeated card draw end up in S-tier. That sounds like Commander. 😂
@corryborowic8322
@corryborowic8322 Жыл бұрын
Since when are instants and sorceries included as a 1 drop? A 1 mana spell sure but to count as a "drop" it has to be a permanent
@leocoelho12
@leocoelho12 2 жыл бұрын
flaw in moxfiel -> can't change the language, my friends don't read english :/
@Attivian
@Attivian 2 жыл бұрын
Village Rite does work in a token heavy deck. If I can sack a token for card advantage, then all day every day.
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