BYD Shark 6 towing STRESS test at MAX payload - the results are surprising...

[@jimmywaters8929]

Thanks, Paul. Overall very impressed considering my max load will only be 1.5 t. I think with a bit of education and management the under two tonners will be very happy. Looking forward to delivery in March. Thanks for your work.

[@Expedition_Tranquilo]

The 2.5 tonners will be fine as well, as long as they expect to be doing only 75km/h up a long ascent.

[@jimmywaters8929]

@@Expedition_Tranquilo SOC Was set standard, set it at 75% and you will never be limited, granted it will only get the same fuel economy as a dinosaur muncher, but when not towing the wife can drive it around for virtually free thanks to the hundred kilometre plug-in, diesel tax coming in two years 🤣

[@John-p7i5g]

Wow. Tugging that 2.5 tonne up a hill and accelerating was impressive.

[@mattyb1624]

Beside it averaging more fuel consumption than a normal Ute towing an extra ton.

[@Blight-fp3vt]

@@mattyb1624 Its pretty much the same as a regular ute, the most frugal in the list was the V6 wildtrack, which was only 1.7l/100 better. If you combine the battery (starting at full) and the fuel, they would have a similar range (wildtrack has a bigger tank (85 vs 60), but no battery), but I think the wildtrack would still outrange it by 20-30km, but overall the cost for the trip would be about the same. Seems good, Its such a crying shame our governments don't seem to want to encourage this tech, PHEV is just far better than full electric for a truck, and most driving would not even be using fuel day to day so it really is almost as valid as an EV when it comes to not emitting carbon.

[@mattyb1624]

@Blight-fp3vt I'm not talking about range, I'm talking about L/100km. Almost all of the other utes did better. The cost for a long trip may be similar, except you're forgetting expensive public charging costs on top of the fuel costs, which you will need as the test shows it cannot charge enough using its own generator.

[@mattyb1624]

@Blight-fp3vt EVs may not have local emissions, which is great for the city... but they have 4x the production emissions of a normal car according to Volvo and VW, not to mention the power source to charge. They aren't green. If you want to be green, go buy a 2nd hand normal Ute because it already exists so the main production emissions have been and gone .

[@ensteffo]

@@mattyb1624 EVs are about 20-30% greener than a regular ICE. If you want to go green its naturally best to use up everything which have already been produced, but once you run out of used cars EV`s are considerably better if "going green" is what you are after.

[@Blight-fp3vt]

I've seen comments from Mexican owners, and they all say that the first mistake you make is using low charge minimum while driving long distance. Because if you need to do a section where you require long hills while towing, and you have sub 25% charge, it struggles. Keeping it at 50 seems to ensure you have enough juice to cater for those situations, then the regen will pull it back up while normal driving again.

[@miraphycs7377]

tell me you never driven through remote parts of australia without telling me. Battery juice will eventually go down to super critically low level

[@johnemerson5383]

Absolutely spot on.

[@thetad1242]

So you forget the car has CCS charging capabilities ​@@miraphycs7377

[@matt09ward]

@@miraphycs7377 it wouldn't, if you set it to around 50% to 60% the car would deplete the battery to around 30% to 40% during peak use using the all wheel drive system and then recharge it's battery back up to 50% 60% during lulls in the driving. When driving off road you aren't constantly going all out 100% of the time. You'll go through demanding sections and then go through easy sections . Setting the percentage higher for the motor to kick in gives the battery enough wiggle room to power both electric motors whilst also managing the depletion and recharge ratio.

[@DellCvz]

I have one in México. Just keep it on SOC Save 70%. And it's not designed for long outback trips, just use a Diesel UTE for that.

[@aikz5]

Great review Paul. It clearly shows Shark is good enough to cater 90% of Ute users in Australia.

[@warwickboulter3470]

I've got a Sealion 6 - near enough the same drivetrain. Absolutely epic car by any measure, and a category killer for the mid-large SUV segment. Excited by the Shark.

[@brycem0]

Epic fail.....😆

[@erwin734]

says the Renault owner....

[@brycem0]

​​@@erwin734ha ha, never failed. Epic car....😃 10 years old now. Let's see how many byd's make it to 10 years....😆

[@erwin734]

There are plenty of byd taxis driving around with extremely high mileage. You just need a valid passport.

[@JKENLAO-pi7to]

@@brycem0 BYD is used in taxis in Shenzhen, China, and many of them have driven 600,000 kilometers. BYD buses in Shenzhen, China have driven 600,000 kilometers.

[@awesomekidthe2nd]

Why have the battery set at 25% before engine recharge. From memory you can set it all the way up to 75%. That way the engine would have cut in earlier and kept it charged

[@brianmin1734]

He may as well have set it to 0% and then claim to be shocked it failed.

[@Wh1teDream]

In this case where the required power exceeds the output power, setting the SOC to 75% would constitute a fair test. What should be seen is how far you can run at 100km/h in this case, and use this to compare with other vehicles. Instead of thinking, hey, I can't run 100km/h after I don't use the engine to consume the power to the bottom.

[@pwrrpw319]

Yes indeed & the vehicle should tell you that, as soon as it knows it has a trailer attached, if your not doing steep hills fully loaded or tackling overly long inclines, you could obviously set it at 50 to 60% and most likely be just fine :).

[@xiaoabrose]

You must leave it in charge mode for towing. This is the same setup as the Mitsubishi Outlander phev. I tow all the time a 1 ton trailer and it's a 13kw battery and 140kw electric power. Leave it on battery charge mode and it uses the battery up hills. Also towed 1.5ton for 2000 kms around East Cape in New Zealand. Handled it amazingly well and no flat battery. I flew up the very steep Arthur's pass in the Southern Alps in NZ towing 1ton and a loaded SUV. The only car that could pass me was a Ford XR6. You must keep the battery well above 50% before hills and use it for getting up hills. Recharge on the way down and flats.

[@USUG0]

teaching carexpet how to act like actual experts! ;-P 💯

[@zackmack4712]

He's deliberately sabotaging the Shark for clicks. No idiot would start a tow test at 25% SOC...

[@carholic-sz3qv]

@@zackmack4712 nonsense!!!! he sabotaged nothing at all.

[@mikldude9376]

You may think that , but we do want to know how a hybrid will react when the battery gets low . And let's be clear , this was actually aside from being fully laden a very cushy test and in ideal conditions during the day time . 30 c is not even that hot . If it was night time you'd be using your high beams probably with the heater on , and it appears it's only a short test . It's hard to beat an ICE vehicle for a tow car , even my old xr6 falcon did Melbourne to Noosa and all around brizzy visiting relatives dragging a heavy old 70S caravan with the aero dynamics of cabover Kenworth that I rebuilt and made even heavier with fully boxed steel rails and an extended draw bar , dragging two extra large pensioners and masses of gear all up for 5000 k's , and it was peak summer often in the 40's sitting on 100 kph most of the way , the van tracked behind like it was on rails , rock steady and the combination did not miss a beat the whole way with a going and lights running for the whole trip with an electric fridge running in the van , we put a auxillary battery in the van vented to outside with the electrical wiring tweaked so when the cars lights where on it charged the battery in the van , as soon as the car was shutdown and lights turned off the auxiliary battery was disconnected from the car so no car flat battery. And the beauty of the Conventional ice vehicles is should things go pear shaped , they are easy to fix.​@@zackmack4712

[@Rick-wy4od]

@@xiaoabrose You guys have got no idea how energy is produced/consumed 🤣

[@maximushd8627]

Seemingly compromised testing methodology; here in Uruguay the Shark is selling very well, & working in real world conditions, especially against the more expensive Argentine built Hilux. Our driving conditions are probably the equivalent of country driving in Aus. Current driver of a Ram 2500 (petrol Hemi) with +200k km of hard driving. Have owned a current gen Toyota Hilux, loved its fuel economy and simplicity, but not its on road manners (without load). Good to see the market having to step up and will consider a hybrid truck as my next purchase.

[@kolviczd6885]

He is not a fan! So don't expect any positive review from him.

[@lowkeyconvert8971]

@@kolviczd6885 is it an objective review if he got a free car from ford and is getting paid off?

[@jingzhao-m7f]

He explicitely said he wated to see what would happen when the battery is drained at 9:20. In real world conditions set maintan 50-70% charge when towing and you won't have a problem. I think the result of a flat battery is actually quite good, personaly I would be happy to know when towing at full capcity you can still do 70km/h going uphill.

[@MattTucker]

It's pretty clear from the comments that a lot of people have no idea how this machine works. I would have been interested to know how far it is likely to be able to tow up a decent incline with a good starting state of charge. If I am towing with mine I will keep the minimum state of charge high so this doesn't happen. If I do come across a hill that is likely to reduce the battery too low I'll just slow down. Problem solved. It might take a bit of work getting the feel for it but I am looking forward to playing around with all the settings to get the best out of it.

[@jrkr7357]

It's a less than 5-year-old product and has plenty of room for improvement..... Combustion pickup is a product about 100 years old and the room for improvement is much smaller

[@dannyhong3195]

Tbh, it’s rare to see a Ute towing 2500kg+ and traveling over 100kph on highway..

[@Expedition_Tranquilo]

Exactly. It was still doing 75km/h up a long incline with 2.5t

[@michaelhermans4753]

Correct, you can adjust the settings so the generator kicks in at 60% charge and the problem goes away Paul did a piss poor job of testing, trying to make his overpriced gas gussling raptor look respectable

[@MattTucker]

@@michaelhermans4753 Exactly, I'm not worried in the slightest about running out of power. I'm usually not in a crazy rush to get where I'm going. I lived on a converted school bus for 4 years and top speed up any kind of hill was 40-60km/h depending on the slope. I'm sure this will be a much more enjoyable experience!

[@Random-Destination]

To all those that see anything that tows less than 3.5T as a waste of space, what are you doing here? For those of us that tow up to 2.2T and are happy doing that we now have an exciting new choice that costs way less than our previous options and by all accounts will do it well. I for one am excited by the prospect of NOT having to resort to a smelly smoke belching, noisy diesel vehicle I’ll be able to tow my 2T van with the same vehicle I put my electric zero turn mower in and be able to power/recharge them both as well and not carry a generator for either of them. This thing was made for my use case so I’m looking forward to trying one after they’ve had a little time to fine tune it.

[@dzonikg]

My hobby 540 caravan can sleep 4,have 2 24 inch TVs inside ,floor heating ,shower ,105Ah batery ,Microwave ,air fryer and so on and weight only 1.5 Tons

[@thelonewolf666]

and helping China stuff the worlds cars market--- stuffing your children's choices as you are part of the problem--- saving a few grand now but stuffing your kids choices ahead as china is going into debt for trillions to stuff world car markets, yeah well done, oh and if you tow you will still be using fossil fuel 90% of the time

[@jf9979]

Calm down champ.

[@jrkr7357]

🤣🤣🤣 I am afraid Paul needs to test 4 rounds x 1000km ..... First round towing 1 ton for 1000 km..... 2nd round towing 1.5 ton for 1000 km.... 3rd round towing 2 tons ........ 4th round towing 2.5 tons ..... for a total of 4 rounds and an international referee is required

[@zes7215]

wr

[@mrz1281]

for a daily family car that can tow this is a gamer changer well done byd

[@mcsike7264]

I don't see how this is different from a ev rather than having a gas engine in it thaat gives you range that 1% of the time you need it

[@beerfordolphins]

Am I completely reading this test wrong? Have you just tested the vehicle with 3kn load at 100kmh WITHOUT allowing the ICE to keep the battery charged? If so that is not real world conditions and it is incredibly misleading by implying that the vehicle was incapable of pulling that load. You are correct in saying that this situation ‘could potentially happen’ …but so could your ICE engine failing if you drove everywhere in 1st gear!!! I dare you test it again, in HEV mode, with SOC on at say 50%….go on, how difficult would that be…

[@_wat2do]

Yeah its wild that he didnt even mention the SoC engine setting at all in this "towing test". I would have thought that setting would have been the focus of this video.

[@beerfordolphins]

Ok…I can sorta appreciate a worst case scenario test but he then compares it to the Prado, running under normal conditions, and says that this is why a ‘normal’ ICE car is better. Where is the test of a normal ICE car under ‘worst case’ conditions? He actually stated in his ‘figures’ that a Hilux couldn’t even get to 100kmh! When you think about it..even worst case, it still pulled the load at 74kmh..that’s even after he tried to make the car fail.

[@matsullivan5861]

This is exactly what he has done. Hmm 🤔 why’s that… Flatten the battery to 13% soc left & try towing with the max 130kw 1.5L ice alone is one thing but ☝️ To then use a Toyota Landcruiser 300(?) ice as a way to show it can keep doing laps with a much larger (diesel or petrol ice) whilst it has fuel ..does seem to be a strange comparison 🤔 And one that others take for “proof” of a massive failure or manufacturing fault & it shows poor quality. But all it is, is comparing a 1.5l 4cyl petrol engine to a larger petrol petrol engine. He should retract this & say that the Shark with a sufficiently charged battery & ice doing what it’s there for will do many laps with hardly any fuel usage compared to the Toyota having a limited range due to running out of fuel because that’s its only source of movement. Maybe put 10ltrs of fuel in both & the Byd shark has a sufficiently charged battery & see what goes further out of the two ??

[@zackmack4712]

I wish BYD gave the ute to someone who wasn't so biased and / or stupid so that we could see how it would perform in real world settings

[@Expedition_Tranquilo]

Well Paul is the guy who puts EVs into ridiculous situations and then says see, they aren't ideal... like the test they did driving from Sydney to Melbourne, where it cost more to charge than to fuel up an ICE car - ignoring that this is a 1/1000 situation.

[@brendanfrantz4837]

What was the SOC set to? From my understanding if you’re towing you’d set it around 70%

[@_wat2do]

Very surprising that you dont show the state of charge at all till the very end of the video where its having issues. And you didnt mention the SoC engine kickon setting, which I would have thought would be the main setting you'd adjust if youre towing. Maybe you did it all correct, but to not discuss it thoroughly or even show it detracts from the validity of this video.

[@Johnno1979]

And didn't mention Regen modes. It seems they were rushed and didn't have time before to properly understand how the system works or what settings you needed. Was still an interesting test.

[@dzheyd9609]

He did mention that started with 60% and was in HEV mode

[@_wat2do]

@@dzheyd9609 pics or it didnt happen... This is supposed to be an informative VIDEO! Why not include all the details in the actual video? Why do we have to speculate in the comments section about how the test was conducted?

[@brianmin1734]

This video test is so biased... it is obvious that improbable bordering on silly were chosen to make th Shark fail.

[@AnarchyEnsues]

when towing, you need to keep it in ice mode, and have the setting to keep battery over 80%.... and as you go down hills,,,, if needed the motor will be recharging.

[@matthewGordon-z9f]

It would be interesting for you to do the towing test with the system set to keep a high % of charge in the battery. This is how the car is meant to be used when towing.

[@shannonholt6399]

I must say, thanks for doing a follow up on this video, ive put a deposit down but still on the fence. Will be towing a 2t van will 5 people in the car. Thanks for the vids, i know its not what alot of us want to hear, but helpful nonetheless. Keep it up 👍

[@uthanwintun]

Always factual honest and genuine reviews. Thanks Paul. This is already expected. Best remedy for this I reckon is set battery level to 75% or so once you left home if you are expecting this kind of long uphill stressful haul . I don't think it d be issue as you are driving above 70kph on highway and engine help drive. Some people who live in hilly suburb and have really steep driveways may have issue pulling up as there is no gear or torque inverter reduction, and also engine will not kick in as speed is under 70. But still this is the hell lot of ute for money.

[@davidjulian8536]

The engine will kick in under 70kph to keep the battery charged, it just won't directly drive the front wheels. A steep driveway will be no problem with 300+ kW and electric motor torque.

[@uthanwintun]

Try to understand gear reduction and torque multipliaction.​@@davidjulian8536

[@stevenorr7659]

My shark is coming next month, just test drove it today. It's going to take some getting used to but seems good. I do very little off road driving and zero towing so it'll be perfect for me

[@turbostyler]

so why get a ute and not a suv or a sedan? Blows my mind why anyone would want a ute if you're not 4wd'ing or towing???

[@vitorharalambus6537]

@@turbostylerthrowing bikes and scooters in the back, dump runs, picking new furniture and white goods, helping out others to do the same. No towing or camping for me and I wouldn’t live without a ute….

[@SamanthaJ-p4m]

​@@turbostyler because they can if they fucking want to. By the sounds of it your tiny little mind can't handle much

[@liuyangyang]

​@@turbostyler because byd is not bring fangchengbao bao 8 to Australia. If yes, i will sell the shark within a second.

[@arminius6506]

​@@liuyangyang I think Bao are called Leopard internationally. BYD is missing out by not launching them in Australia, those cars are going to crush Toyota in Australia and South Africa

[@loving_dad_explorer]

I struggles to get bone 80km/h uphill in my diesel patrol on an include 😂 and this thing was towing!

[@jackh4787]

Paul, these towing test videos are fantastic. I’ve watched all the mega tests multiple times, this one was also full of great information. Please continue doing these types of videos.

[@CarExpertAus]

Thanks! We appreciate the feedback.

[@tighematthew]

This will make youtube history 👌 bring on John

[@remix-yy1hs]

Hahaha I can't wait. I just watched his video. I love him. I thought he was ev hater but he is funny and honest

[@AGHybrid]

This is seriously good research. Just the sort of information the manufacturers need to improve their products. I'm still sold on the Shark though. The camper trailer I tow is only 1.1 tonnes - so all good.

[@CarExpertAus]

For most people this car will be great.

[@Johnnie007ification]

This is a vastly better ute for people who doesn’t tow heavy loads over long distances every day of the year..the electric motor-battery will really cut down fuel consumption&improve ride comforts on those short daily suburban journeys most people do most of the time in their utes..

[@scroopynooperz9051]

@@CarExpertAus yip - most people will not be putting it to these extremes but it is important to TEST these extremes in order to gauge its limits and, for those few who do intend to operate at these extreme limits, to have realistic expectations. I see many are busting your balls for giving this ute a decent shakedown and a generally positive review - it would seem they're letting their ideological and political views taint even simple car reviews now xD

[@Expedition_Tranquilo]

@@Johnnie007ificationover long distances it will be fine. Where it will drop to 75km/h is long climb towing 2.5t - not many places in oz where that’ll matter.

[@MKL_D]

​@@Johnnie007ificationtrue

[@kolviczd6885]

This guy tried to fail the car in all possible ways.. but somehow the shark survived! The call is yours.. BYD Shark is by no means a perfect flawless vehicle, but so are all other cars!

[@craigice9635]

It's called testing.

[@ruhithudakara2802]

This is just a test, we cannot compare this to a long-term use. I had a Chinese car before and at first, it was nice and everything. But withing two years it started falling apart, and finding correct spare parts are nightmare. the market is full of copies and poorly made spare parts that some of them won't even fit correctly. And I couldn't even sell it because it had almost no resel value and nobody wanted it.

[@dzonikg]

@@ruhithudakara2802 I have Geely Chines car and after 2 years no single fault ,not even light bulb die or anything ,and has 7 year warranty .Before i had Hyndai Tuscon for 6 years it was also good but they rised prices a lot since i bought mine in 2016 so i went with Geely and i am happy.I can say is 30% better then my Tuscon ,plan to keep it 6 years and sell before warranty expires

[@kolviczd6885]

@@craigice9635 It's call testing yes.. but with a clear motive to find the negatives in worst case scenario and highlight that as a real world daily issue! In worst case scenario, even a $30 million Rolls-Royce La Rose Noire Droptail will fail if the car and testing is set up to fail. That's the point I'm making.

[@kolviczd6885]

@@ruhithudakara2802 China made some crap products from car to toilet papers, but China also make German cars, Japanese cars, American cars, iPhone, Tesla, DJI, Huawei etc. Toyota and BYD is in partnerships now. It's all down to your choice and budget! Generalization of Chinese products doesn't make sense anymore, especially in the last few years.

[@robertjenner7970]

Hanging out to see how the GWM alpha hybrid goes doing this. Thanks for the great review. 😊

[@krossbolt4100]

Not bad for BYD´s first iteration of a hybrid ute. Wait for the improvements and it will be unbeatable.

[@teofilol2666]

I agree with what others were saying, this truck is only fitted with a 1.5 litres engine compared to 3, 3.5 or even 4 litres trucks normally used for towing purpose, of course you need to fully make use of its hybrid power, that means you need to ensure that the state of charge not fall below certain threshold which is entirely possible to set in the infotainment computer.

[@wrtii2101]

I'd be curious to see how far you could tow with that Land Cruiser ----with the tank only at 13%...15% when you start.

[@kennethprocak5176]

Paul how could the battery to go so low? You set it to run down to 20%? What % was it set too before topping up the battery. Would appreciate if you are able to explain.

[@JSM-bb80u]

Why did you let the battery go to 25%?

[@yawangle90]

12:38 when you say "...the vehicle eventually did fix itself" you are being misleading and implying the vehicle has a problem to fix, when in fact it is the natural characteristics of its hybrid system with relatively low sustained power output (petrol engine charging battery while providing propulsion), compared to ICE vehicles.

[@qingpeterwan4880]

I can't believe you've done all this extensive testing but missed a crucial component: will the ICE have trouble maintaining SOC level during long distance towing? To do this is super simple, just hookup the 2.5T trailer, set the SOC to 50%, set cruise control at 100km/h around the test track, and see how low the SOC level drops to. The trailer dyno test was simulating towing something UPHILL all the time, of course it will drain the battery and leave all the hard work to the ICE, but it is in no way an indicator of long range towing capability.

[@mattyb1624]

@qingpeterwan4880 they did that, it way underperformed other tow vehicles on their big circular track.

[@qingpeterwan4880]

@@mattyb1624 No, they hooked up the 3kN trailer dyno and ran around the circular track, it is completely different than what I suggested.

[@bashamriaz2668]

This is their first Ute ever built for an overseas market. Given the performance and all tests you have done with this car, someone can easily say that BYD did a great job. After all, this is their first try in UTE, and they did so well .

[@remakeit2628]

While load testing is fine, Paul's road testing was plain WRONG. Nobody owning a Shark would be stupid enough to tow a heavy trailer without using a comparatively high SoC setting on the BYD Shark. It's like telling someone that if you can reach the speed limit in second gear you don't ever need to use 3rd or 4th gear.

[@shanebatchelor1]

Or saying you only use gears to speed up - so leave it in 5th up a 7% grade....

[@ArmadaAsesino]

What does SoC mean?

[@remakeit2628]

@@ArmadaAsesino state of charge

[@McA-fk5re]

The test results reflect what I’ve experienced towing with an Outlander PHEV over the past 10 years. Great towing on relatively flat terrain but as soon as there is an incline over a long distance or multiple hills the system can’t maintain the battery charge so the engine screams trying to deliver enough power towing while trying to charge the battery. I’m towing 900kg with a 1500kg rated vehicle. The vehicle relies on the combined electric and petrol engine power to deliver the maximum power, as soon as the battery is drained it only has the power from the petrol engine.

[@zackmack4712]

A deliberate sabotage of the ute. Why deplete the battery before you started the tow test? I can't think of a scenario where someone would set off towing a trailer with 25% charge?

[@kentaylor2950]

Maybe you just camped off grid for the weekend?

[@TerryHickey-xt4mf]

@@kentaylor2950 the petrol engine can charge the battery off grid.

[@elliotkane4443]

I tow heavy trailers at 1/8th fuel or less sometimes and don't worry too much. A diesel ute might only go from 9 to 15l/100km carrying a heavy trailer. Petrol is worse and electric is impractical.

[@chrischoy9]

@@elliotkane4443not defending the Shark here, but you are aware that diesel electric trains for example use electric proposition and diesel to generate power because the traction motors are able to provide far more torque than if the diesel engine powered the wheels? Electric propulsion is practical, but the vehicle needs to be set in way where it’s primary goal is to get power to the electric motors rather than trying to combine the two powertrains to give a good on spec sheet output.

[@SleepyBoBos]

Pretty amazing bit of kit really, and this is just the first version. Battery tech is improving at a steady rate so with higher energy densities and\or cheaper batteries these things are only going to get better. 6L\100km unladen and 0-100 km times are incredible. I own a Model Y and a 2005 Hilux Workmate ute

[@jackiezhang7403]

Watched all your reviews of the BYD shark 6, It’s like you “deliberately “ set up the shark in the worst possible way to fail 😂 I bet ford and other legacy car companies are going to be very happy with your “honest “ review of the BYD shark 6.enjoy your kick back 😂

[@seanfenwick]

@@jackiezhang7403 in what way is this vehicle any good? It is a good example of how good technology can be sandwiched together and turned into a terrible performing product.

[@mattyb1624]

@@jackiezhang7403 it's a useful video to show the issues you can come across. I won't be getting one as a tow vehicle.

[@jackiezhang7403]

@@seanfenwick why don’t you ask the judges that crowned the BYD shark 6, the car of the year for Australia. Why is this car so good to earn that award?

[@jackiezhang7403]

@@mattyb1624 you can’t afford one anyway, don’t worry about it stick to your shitbox and keep brainwashing yourself about the reality.

[@Austin_S-n7i]

thats not something might happen, is paul let it happen on purpose​@@mattyb1624

[@Sulu-d4r]

Can't remember the last time that I towed anything. I suspect that will be the same with 97% of drivers.

[@PromiseKumalo]

spot on.

[@dinosshed]

Most people buy Ute's, so they can tow that overloaded caravan twice a year and throw it in a mud hole or go up a beach. I have a trailer with an excavator loaded 90% of my travels. Very rarely, not towing. I don't know anyone with a ute that doesn't tow something.

[@rolieg81]

And still struggle accelerating towing light weight....

[@Sulu-d4r]

@@dinosshed I doubt that "most people buy utes so they can tow that overloaded caravan twice a year..." 1. I hardly ever see a caravan on the road. and 2. Literally every person that I know who owns a ute has never towed a thing. Maybe we're just different like that in New Zealand.

[@Sulu-d4r]

@@rolieg81 As per my original post, I don't tow things. Ever. And I suspect that's the same for most people. I could care less about the towing ability of a vehicle.

[@SportWorldShorts]

Something tells me this car wasn't setup properly or the production vehicle he's been given isn't the latest software. Other youtubers will tow test and it will perform exceptionally well, much like the hillclimb test that failed here but aced it on other channels.

[@liuyangyang]

byd is pretty good with DMO now. but software, byd is not good at

[@richmacdod]

Great honest video.

[@benjames3604]

why is the test being done at such low battery %? fair enough show the comparison when it has both charge and without but not showing the fuel performance with battery is sabotaging the results. You'd have the SOC set way up when towing uphill, not pumping on a sub 20%

[@ianvader4697]

because the battery doesn't stay fully charged when you drive genius ffs some people are so dumb!

[@Darkmatter321]

Honestly, the Shark is god sent. It won't do some things. But it does everything I need and more, for a great price.

[@mersinalou7397]

Has Carexpert contacted BYD to ensure the vehicle has the latest software updates as this is pre-production? Nothing will stop this selling out before release regardless as its a game changer given its price and equipment levels .. most people will set the engine to tow at heavy loads at 80 maybe even 90 or 100 percent SOC ... nothing can touch this in the Aussie market as it serves to call out the ridiculous prices paid for diesel tractors seranading as utes. Finally, the video is obviously cut off and doesnt show battery levels visually .. so is Carexpert trying to say that at 100% battery level the car couldnt do 5 laps when set to 90% SOC? Exactly how was the battery depleted so quickly in 1 lap ?

[@fatdoi003]

BYD does not need to address the public anything as what's tested is only a prototype....

[@camsmith4047]

The SOC isn't that important in a hybrid compared to a BEV when measuring performance

[@Mikky-The-Hat]

@@camsmith4047Of course it is. Because the SOC was not set to maintain 70%, it was able to deplete to a level that the car could no longer sustain power. The correct setting would have resulted in a test with a very different outcome.

[@mersinalou7397]

@@camsmith4047 It is in this car as it sets off the petrol engine to charge the battery as the petrol engine acts as a generator .. the higher it is set the sooner the battery is charged by the petrol engine .. in a max towing test this would be set at 80% to 100% or the highest allowed by the vehicle

[@Random-Destination]

Basically it was depleted too much to begin with and was then essentially operated outside of its design parameters. The 15% incline while towing was also outside the design parameters. The manual states 12% max so thats interesting too. John Cardogan’s latest video Q&A on the Shark has a pretty good explanation of how the small petrol engine is more than adequate to keep the battery working even though the elec. motors output is way higher. It’s worth a look if that sort of thing interests you.

[@davidbarclay4968]

I think all the comments talking about the low charge minimum are correct. I would also add this issue happened at 422 kilometres in the test. If this were an ice engine you would have to stop by then to fill up. I found it kind of interesting that the range was similar to an ice engine without the necessity to find a gas station at about the same range.

[@dingbatt]

So the Shark was bad because its towing economy (fuel consumption) was approx 5 times worse than its unladen economy, but about the same as all the other utes when towing? And better than the Raptor😮

[@Johnno1979]

Yep, thats the logical take except for the anti's around here. Given this was an extreme test i felt the performance was great and it will be fine in normal towing with 70% SOC set.

[@zes7215]

@@Johnno1979 wr

[@mattyb1624]

@dingbatt it doesn't seem to save any fuel, so I ask, why bother having to put up with the possible inconveniences instead of just getting a normal diesel Ute?

[@Alvyrre]

@@mattyb1624 does anybody with an ute tow daily? is your trailer permanently attached to your vehicle? if you go to the supermarket to buy groceries do you also bring trailer with you?

[@mattyb1624]

@Alvyrre like I said, if people need a proper Ute, they don't buy these BYD or a Raptor. Most tradies tow every single day they work. My brother does and he get 10L/100Km towing with his Triton around the city. Way better than this BYD. Even just normal driv8ng around it only uses 1L/100km less than my Mazda BT50. The BYD is pointless other than maybe running on electric only down to the shop. Even then, it's not worth the hassle. It just seems like an interesting concept but in the and it is a pointless car.

[@LithiumBatteryGuy]

The amount of hate directed at Paul. Disgraceful. Paul you do a good job. You review lots of cars and you always try to address things most dont even think about. Keep up the good work.

[@jtt3346]

Thanks, been waiting for this review and it was excellent. TBH the Shark performed much better than I thought it would be. Even the fuel economy when fully laden was ok (forget the percentage increase, I was interested in the comparisons -those Raptors are atrocious). Given I would never, in any vehicle, be towing at maximum capability, and my towing is a 1.2t boat, I think the Shark will be a good choice for that and for my everyday practical use. But I’ll let others be the bunnies first to get some real world experiences before I put my order in.

[@bartybollocks]

Anyone towing 3500kg van in Australia is probably over the GVm, especially if its a LANDCRUISER. !!

[@duncaninglis5407]

Great information thank you I ordered a 25 plate V6 Wildtrak in August then I saw all the overly enthusiastic reviews by Australian reviewers on the BYD Shark which seem a wee bit suspect. Thanks for your honest reviews I enjoy them. I pick up my Wildtrak this Friday Merry Christmas.

[@TomWilding1]

Enjoy! Heaps better choice! 😊

[@kolviczd6885]

Honest review lol..!! Don't you see all he did was to try and fail the shark in all possible ways!!

[@duncaninglis5407]

@@kolviczd6885I wouldn’t buy one mate the electric motors and batteries on all ev & hybrid vehicles is in its infancy if the world really needs ev technology is has got a lot of evolving the life expectancy on this current generation will get no where near the reliability in years and parts to diesel and petrol motors. But each to their own that’s just what I think.

[@John-p7i5g]

Great honest review Paul. I think those shortfalls are going to be only for heavy loads with long ascents and descents or bush bashing, which most people are not going to be using it for (most don't use their hiluxes or Ford Rangers for that either, it's for ferrying stuff in the back on mostly city roads), so these are weaknesses that won't be tested very often. But these are nevertheless weaknesses that BYD can and should work on for their subsequent models. Clearly a more powerful ICE and bigger battery as well as better regen settings and architecture need to be looked at for more powerful spec models.

[@JDFIGHTER87]

than you have 3 ton ute ;)

[@JulesSch1]

The BYD Shark is a disruptor & will start a PHEV ute revolution right across the world. So many people I know have orders for them here in Australia, and the quality for price is unbeatable.

[@mrkring1526]

How do you know it's quality when it's not even out?

[@CHOPSZOOKER]

BOT

[@jrkr7357]

Without Shark, I think the price of Raptor may have increased to about $100,000

[@JulesSch1]

@@mrkring1526 been for a test drive recently, I’m going to buy one next year.

[@JulesSch1]

@@CHOPSZOOKER unfortunately not.. im real

[@Ausijoeblow]

I’m gonna wait till it can tow 5 tonnes, because I have nothing else better to do

[@jrkr7357]

My wait is for 45 tons .......

[@liuyangyang]

😃BYD has electrical truck with dedicated battery setup

[@dzonikg]

If it can tow jet plane with 1.1 engine they is ok

[@Random-Destination]

Paul, I’ve been doing some reading on Tow Dynamometers similar to the one you used in an attempt to better understand your test and I’ve come to the conclusion that it was kinda pointless (sorry). I have learned that many of these Dyno Trailers can be programmed to simulate real world hills with prerecorded GPS gradient data so that an actual climb can be replicated on the flat test track. Can your unit do this? If it can then I would like you to consider rather than testing ‘all’ vehicles with the same settings on the Dyno Trailer and just performing stress tests that aren’t really relatable to most of us, why not program the Dyno Trailer with something like the hill climb on Thunderbolts Way between Gloucester & Walcha or some other pretty challenging hill people will be familiar with and have thought twice about attempting and use settings that reflect the GCM ratings for the vehicle being tested and the speeds you’re actually likely to be doing instead of the one-size-fits-all 100kph test you’re currently using. Because…..from what I can tell you essentially tested the Shark using criteria designed to stress vehicles with 45% more towing capacity and presented the results as directly comparable and I’m pretty sure every other ute on the market would perform equally as poorly (if they could even do it) if you test them at 45% above capacity. So as entertaining as it may have been it doesn’t seem fair (to me anyway) on either BYD or your viewers trying to understand this new vehicle before possibly shelling out their $60K+ and hoping for the best. What say you?

[@gsh0cked]

Interesting test. What would have happened if you kept the SOC setting at 50%? Would have the towing test lasted longer? It doesn’t seem there is enough information on how this hybrid system should be set up. BYD probably should have a Towing Mode that automatically sets the SOC at a certain percentage to ensure the car has a healthy amount of power.

[@GDM22]

The issue was the charging test was just started at a low SOC it didn't have any opportunity to manage itself. That said under that type of unrelenting load it would eventually I assume run out of charge in the battery and get to the same point.

[@joytech23]

I wouldn't say this is a terrible result but its utility is reduced for certain applications. It would probably be a fantastic car for a tradie or camper given it's basically a huge portable battery with a large inverter. If the production version's SOC limit works (assuming your driving doesn't eat the battery from high consistent drivetrain load) it could be an extremely useful car even with the fuel consumption trade-off.

[@mikelyford957]

These are going to be huge sellers , like the ldv Chery MG etc . Ozzy car fleet is changing fast !

[@mrkring1526]

People driven by price only and if it has AA or Carplay. Cringe.

[@mikelyford957]

Yes we have seen it all before when the cheap jap crap came in . They didn't handle steer or brake , but had a radio as standard .

[@dzonikg]

@@mrkring1526 Not everyone has 100k for car

[@Padawanjuliotrinidad]

I think no one will drive without energy. We want to know what happens if you have 70% or 100% charge, if the internal combustion engine (ICE) can sustain the energy or how long it can supply energy.

[@brenthoran1472]

Well done for reporting the truth and not sugar coating the towing failure. I think given a bit of time byd and other Chinese brands will make some unreal cars for towing and travel around aus. This is all part of the process and I'm sure this car will be perfect for some people.

[@michaelshaughnessy1376]

Does the trailer dine allow the regen to work on a decline?

[@daniellorkin6298]

Paul how long is one lap with the trailer dyne? Also what weight trailer and uphill slope does the 3kn equate to roughly?

[@aljoubert8749]

It is the equivalent of towing a 1.5-2ton trailer up a 10% slope which is super steep continuesly.

[@daniellorkin6298]

@aljoubert8749 on top of the 1.6t trailer? So 3.1 -3.6 tonne of trailer for a vehicle rated to 2.5t? Surely not

[@aljoubert8749]

@@daniellorkin6298 no. Only equivalent of 1.5-2t up a 10% slope. Keep in mind the average boat ramp is 12%. Not a real world test

[@doctor_who1]

at this drained capacity, would you please do a 0-100 and 80-120 and if possible VMax test? these are more important to me than towing a swimming pool up a hill

[@TheAlexantube]

Regarding your last point about it not being able to engine brake once the battery is too hot/full - I’m surprised it doesn’t use the electric motor to spin the ICE like Toyota hybrids do when their batteries are too full or hot - this is basically engine braking like in any other car and slows them down pretty effectively - I don’t see why the Shark couldn’t do the same thing so I’m surprised it doesn’t 🤷‍♂️

[@badharrow]

It can't because it's not engaged to the drive train unless your over 70km/hr

[@seliaslucas]

I am impressed so far even though paul is testing a pre-production , i am curious how it BYD shark will perform in a production ready

[@MC-jf6ic]

Do another fair test Paul! Your credibility is going down!

[@ianvader4697]

watched the new video yet clown?

[@MotoGuzziMoto]

Paul, I appreciate that you had a go at this, but I think you should do it all over again. This time when testing with the trailer dyne use a more representative drag consistent with towing a 2500kg trailer, and try some different options of battery SOC to find its best towing performance, just like an owner would do. It is worth noting that 3000N is clearly too high for a fuel consumption test, even for the 3500 kg diesel utes because there is no way that would represent the average towing scenario. That is more like worst case up a steep hill which would represent less than 5% of towing, and even then there is a downhill to follow that would recoup some of the economy. That trailer dyne test you performed on the group ute test was in my opinion completely flawed, favouring the most powerful utes, but then to follow up and perform the same 3000N test on a 2500kg towing limit ute was simply unfair.

[@MotoGuzziMoto]

Here is an idea. You actually have a 2500kg trailer, so why not set out a course of say one run over the hill and then 3 laps of the circuit to determine overall economy. Then compare against your Raptor.

[@Random-Destination]

@@MotoGuzziMoto Agreed. Load the Ute close to the max limits and set the Dyno trailer at a figure that represents a 2.5T trailer going up a grade not exceeding the 12% grade limit for the vehicle and see how it goes. Then repeat the test varying the load in such a way as to simulate real world conditions because inclines are variable and I’ve never towed my van up a continuous 12% grade that would allow anything close to 100kph for more than a brief period and even then, why would I. Doing so absolutely kills your fuel economy. Considering drag is a huge factor above 80kph is it not reasonable and sensible to look after your equipment and perhaps just slow down a tad to save power. Just because you ‘can’ climb at that speed doesn’t mean that you ‘should’. So the test was entertaining but essentially useless to all of us that would actually like to know what it CAN do as well as what it CAN’T do.

[@Pirate_Pookie]

What was the battery percentage when you started the tow torture test laps with the DYNE? This is an important piece of information in the scheme of the test. Otherwise good video and info.

[@franklinchen6200]

Yes, it’d be better to have some key information presented as I think the lack of it has caused some suspicion

[@johnwilliamson8110]

Was thinking the same after 5 minutes.

[@yourtemp6135]

the battery percentage was 13%, I found it in the display.

[@dzonikg]

Also how long test run ,if it was 30 minutes and you go 100 km/h that is 50 km on constant hill, where in the world in reality you will ever find it

[@Trad-Archer]

He states some what’re else in these comments they started at 60%, did one lap of the track and the battery was down to 13. The ice cannot keep up in this situation and when the battery gets to 13% the car goes into limp mode.

[@flassboy]

Will be very interesting to see how this performs in 10 years with a battery that might be well past its peak in term ms of holding charge. In addition I imagine it could mean the internal combustion engine is having to pick up the slack? (did he say 1.5L?). Big ask for a small motor? Wondering how all these hybrids will go long term regarding reliability. Could be great, but seems like a bit of a gamble with relatively new tech?

[@bradgray123]

I think you lack an understanding of how the vehicles drive line works. It's embarrassing journalism.

[@peterachilles9346]

For those who keep saying the battery needs to be kept at about 50% charge. Carsales did a review recently and drove it 1800km on mostly highway and kept it above 75% charge the fuel economy was between 14L to 16L. Keeping the battery at 50% must be the magical spot

[@exploringsydneyandbeyond9059]

a real world test to see if that failure would happen is to tow 2.5 tonne up mount Ousley near wollongong, it’s a 5km up hill run , see if it will tow at the speed limit up the entire hill and still have some in reserve as there’s a few good hills very close beyond that

[@badonkadonkskidz]

I just looked at their webpage. The Ironman accessories look great. I’m going to wait for the 3.5T towing model, then turn it into an affordable tourer.

[@dn059]

Alot of people butt hurt in the comments 😂 if u dont like it dont buy one...pretty simple

[@Dazza-u4c]

“ Alot “ is not a word. It is A lot.🙄

[@julianchung9215]

​@@Dazza-u4csure thing genius...😊

[@deanrwilson]

Wow if you read the comments below you'd be even more confused after watching this test. It's early days for the Shark IMO we simply don't know what cost of ownership will be and or re-sale value which is something most people forget. I'd be watching the Shark very closely and see where it is in 2 years time etc? It's an unknown IMO but certainly worth investigating. The Hilux for example leads the market for re-sale value and is a known quantity, you'll always get your money back when time comes to upgrade. The Shark for me would make a perfect Urban dweller just on EV etc so worth considering. This test seemed like a great attempt to find the shortcomings which is fair enough most people wanted to see this thing stressed.

[@jjian5]

should set your battery at 70% when towing, so the battery won't go below 15%

[@CarExpertAus]

Yep, we started towing with the trailer dyne when we were finished with the hill road. Battery would have been around 60%. It took around one lap to drain the battery with the dyne set to 3kN.

[@Trad-Archer]

If the ice could keep up to the power draw the battery would not have fallen under the 25% limit in the first place.

[@dannyhong3195]

It might really need a 2.0T petrol from the U8 to do this and beyond

[@JimmyLLL]

@@Trad-ArcherThen you need a much more powerful ice. 100kw seems to be all it could manage that day.

[@CarExpertAus]

@@Trad-Archer Spot on.

[@mattnorman9930]

Not sure if I’ve taken the wrong information out of this review but here goes. What I’ve taken out of this review is that the vehicle won’t have any issues doing short trips to the boat ramp but if I want to do a road trip I could have some issues. My boat is around 1.6T. I’ve combed through the comments and found that Paul started the test at 60% battery. My concern is living in NQ most road trips are 1000ks or more so if towing over a long distance is an issue I’ll pull my order and stick with the Hilux. Please tell me I’m wrong?

[@johnemerson5383]

Yeah, you're wrong. As long as you set the battery level to say 70% which you can do, the Shark 6 will cruise at 100km's an hour all day long with a boat on the back. The petrol engine will cycle on and off to keep the battery topped up so when you do get you hills you're fine. In the test they intentionally ran the battery down and then started the tow test which you'd never do in real life. I'd wait and see what other people do on a real world tow test.

[@thetad1242]

Also remember the car has CCS charging. You could always charge your battery during breaks

[@RodneyW]

@@johnemerson5383 If you set the minimum SoC to 70%, then cruise at 100 km/h for the day... what will your fuel consumption be? Another reviewer used that configuration (while not towing anything) and got 14 litres / 100km.

[@badharrow]

It will be poor. But hopefully this is acceptable given the overall fuel profile thought a year. For me, where this is mainly a commuter and weekend "take the kids to the BMX track" car, it's on sole battery 95 percent of the year. But if you're towing year round, it's probably not the vehicle you'd want.

[@johnemerson5383]

@@RodneyW I haven't seen anyone do a fuel test whilst towing so that's going to be something that hopefully one of the reviewers does soon. When not towing, in hybrid mode it gets 7.5l/100km's to 8.5l/100km's.

[@siraff4461]

Once the battery is low/flat you only have what the engine can make as power which is great until you need more than that. That means any time you ask for more than (in this video) 100kW or so you're depleting the battery. That doesn't need to be a heavy trailer if its a large one with poor aero's. To hold 100k's you're going to use more than 100kW on the flat and level even with something like a decent boat trailer on the back or if there's a headwind and things in the bed or whatever - its not a high bar is the point. The more over 100kW you use the faster it depletes and the less it can put back in so far from the outer limit case Paul thinks this is, for long journeys running heavy or with a lot of drag, in the rain, in the cold or whatever - this is going to happen quite regularly. When it boils down to it this has a claimed 170kW engine minus losses which aren't small in a series hybrid so by the time it gets to the wheels you're looking at a constant maximum of around 100kW. Anything over that and you're relying on it having charge to keep it going and while 30kWh is great for running around town its almost nothing when you're talking about dragging a big ute and trailer against the weather - even using 190kW total - something easily done in heavy use - it will take that battery from completely full to completely flat in 20 mins. Thats presuming the whole 30kWh is usable but looking at how it behaved in this test that seems highly unlikely. The bowl test showed it all - the LC would go around all day until the fuel ran out then top up and go again. This didn't even manage two laps which in the real world is taking you pretty much nowhere. Pauls test showed this in a short time but on a longer run where you're using more than the engine can charge regularly this will happen repeatedly.

[@aljoubert8749]

You have absolutely no idea. You are never going to have a 2.5t trailer needing more than 100kW to tow. Remember a lot of utes could not even get this to 100kmph. Even my slow as f Cannon can tow 3t at 100kmph with ease. A trailer dyno is not even the remotely the same as a trailer.

[@siraff4461]

@@aljoubert8749 Again for those who can't get their head around it - this isn't simulating weight but rather load. You may be able to tow 3t at 100kmph on the flat but that means nothing if its a small or decently aerodynamic rig. Heck a ~200kW semi can haul 40T+ at 100 on the flat depending on prevailing conditions. This is simulating work required to overcome a load (not a load as in weight but a load as in a loading from all the forces involved) which in this case is perceived as a set weight and a set gradient. They are variable for the same load so you can have a very light but large trailer into a headwind, a light trailer up a steep hill, a heavy trailer up a slight hill or any mix of them to get to the same resistance. Say you take your 3t trailer up a 10% grade - that would mean the dyno trailer could be set to an equivalent drag to provide similar resistance. As for a 2.5T trailer never needing more than 100kW to tow - on this ute thats over 5000kg train weight and you imagine its going to do that into a headwind, up a hill with 100kW? Lets see the video of you trying (and failing miserably) at that. Physics simply disagrees with you.

[@ricllinares5929]

Why are there so many people whining about the testing process ?good accurate way of finding out how well it actually works and whether it suits you’re needs

[@ralphzoombeenie2330]

Agree. When flight testing an aircraft it is flown to explore the limits but has limits imposed on its normal operating limits.

[@daviddudz]

One of the most beneficial videos I’ve seen for the these new utes and especially for the ozzy market 🎉

[@nmvi226]

BYD has done well with this car but I still believe it need’s a few things like rear and center diff locks, they have done that with the leopard 5 which has the same setup as this. When towing I’d have the engine full on so it is able to charge the batteries and also aid in power though I also believe at full towing weight the engine will struggle to do both, I’d say it’s a bit too small or underpowered for high demanding situations. But perfect car for 90% of the people who will buy and never tow or do serious off-roading.

[@nizzkid2]

You hit the incline with a heap of speed...try coming to a dead stop, simulating a traffic light. See if it can actually take off or get stuck on the hill?

[@CarExpertAus]

Yep, will try that when we get the production car. We had limited time with the car to film this content.

[@dannyhong3195]

@@CarExpertAusplease do the same tests again with prod car, keen to see the difference. Also hope BYD is watching and learning from this!

[@Jack20585]

Mate if your going to be running the vehicle at full gcm. I would think it would be a good idea to set the battery target SoC to %50 or more so you dont run into this problem.....

[@AnthonyGriz]

Awesome to see. Clearly lets me know to stick with ICE for heavier long-haul towing.

[@twisted_panties]

You just saw what you wanted to see, enjoy those fuel bills.

[@gregsmith2262]

My old Nissan Navara used to tow a car on a double axle trailer as if it wasn't there with the same top speed. You must be getting a sling from BYD which was actually running an ICE.

[@jdn8884]

They already sell this 4wd in Mexico. I know there would be adaptations to local roads. But this should not change much.

[@liamwindsor5854]

I agree, not sure why all the preproduction talk

[@Johnno1979]

Because even the carsales outback review talked about big improvements across their 3 pre production versions of different age.

[@ngm1237]

Very interesting. Imagine how good this could be if say they doubled the battery size.

[@matt09ward]

Once again inaccurate testing from you... Why on earth would you think running the battery down to its minimum operating capacity would be a good idea before conducting test's with actual data. You drove it around pointlessy with a trailer on the back first, collecting zero scientific data. All 3 of these videos it seems you have purposely put the shark in a position to give it's worst possible results. 3 times starts to make you question how much is ford or Tesla paying you... The idea of it being hybrid is that the battery should never get to 25% when the ute is being worked, you would set the minimum to 50% to 60% so there's plenty of juice left to power the all wheel drive capability when it actually needs it. I'm glad to see other people now starting to call you out on the clear bias of these video's. From putting the car into the obviously wrong drive mode whilst testing, to depleting the battery or overheating it before testing, to not being extremely clear that this is a pre production unit, you've done everything possible to give it an unfair review.

[@michaelagi3777]

Great job, Paul, and I appreciate your honesty. The only problem is that you called out real concerns, and this won't go down with everyone. Keep up the great work.

[@shanesummerhayes7101]

I dare say that regen would be nil when the battery is full, or near full.

[@GDM22]

I don't believe it would seek to manage the battery around 100%, so would not see this scenario aside from when you initially set off, it would more likely manage it to around a 70% SOC.

[@glennritchie]

Theoretically, I wonder how many kN needs to be applied to the load testing trailer, in order to represent the maximum towing climbing grade that BYD has set? Is the trailer's 3kN load under the 12% figure mentioned in the BYD specification notes?

[@Đờimitry]

Test a Hybrid ute with a hybrid ute next, the Ford one with BYD

[@paulrobbieparker3983]

Thanks for all info.👍

[@alf699]

As one who has the order in and "will" purchase mine, it is showing it's limits. I know straight away of one scenario where the vehicle will be in trouble pulling a trailer of 2.5T. Oxley Highway...Port Macquarie up the Walcha mountain. This is the major interlink from the coast to the Western area like Tamworth/Armidale/Inverell/etc. And I don't think that this is a software issue. So, yes...long inclines with 2.5T towing will be an issue for the owners that are inclined to do this.

[@fatdoi003]

then manually push up the battery charge to 50 or 70% instead of draining it to 20% then start going uphill that's bit dumb....

[@Expedition_Tranquilo]

Up those highways at 75km/hr, as this test showed? She’ll be right…

[@luffytaz5482]

@@fatdoi003 Or just go to the closest public charger and charge it to 100% and set limit to 50% before going uphill. Just need a bit of planning I guess. However it is good for Paul to really test the limit of the shark. Worst come to worst stop the car on the side of the road let the engine charge the battery then move on.

[@alf699]

@@luffytaz5482 There is no public charger until you get to the top of Walcha. There is now a 60KW charger in Wauchope. Wauchope to Walcha is 162km and at least 140km of pure climbing. No chargers in between.

[@jessexi]

Nothing to be sorry for. Paul you look great on that white shirt ❤ nice review and real appreciate your hard work and giving all the insightful information 🎉 🎉

[@lumtavon1952]

Seeing the guy clearly did not know how to use an EV while towing i am impressed on the Shark performance especially seeing its just a dirty cheap luxury Ute. Ford & Toyota should rightfully be very worried

[@hczhang52]

1. The prado kakadu is 2.8L right? So if we use another 1.5L ICE car in the same condition, can it running at 100km/h or lower? 2. Shark can't constantly run 100km/h in this conditon. But if we start the test with 70% SOC, how long will Shark run before it cann't keep the 100km/h speed and what is the SOC then? I think that's a more meaningful test. Thanks

[@Mrbuckaroonie..]

Last year I towed my caravan with the BT50 from Far North Queensland to Tasmania and back. MY diesel BT50 did not miss a beat. Cradle mountain wad lots of real steep hairpin turns. 1st and second gear trying to keep the 3.2 Lt engine in the rev range to give it maximum torque. The only thing I had to worry about was the fuel gauge. Towing I can get about 500 kms. Throw my 2x Jerries in and I am up to about 700 kms easily. From what I have seen here, this thing is simply not up to the task. Get on a large mountain range, exhaust your battery to 25% and you are up shit creek from what I can see. If any of you people are rushing out to buy one of these things for towing a van or intend to go offroad, you are going to be very disappointed. I can see them being good in certain scenarios but for what I do and many other Aussies, they are not up to the task. People these days seem to think having apple carplay and a big fancy screen on the dash is more important than what the engine/electric motors is capable of. For me, this is a soccer Mum's car with a tub in the back. GAF!!!!!!!!!!! Still yet to see a youtube clip showing real world scenarios. Tell BYD to lend me one. I will hook the camper trailer up and see if I can make it to the tip of Cape York via the PDR. Maybe a Fraser Island trip. Good luck on Fraser (K'Gari) without Low Range. I wish the fish bit as hard as all you Chinese Fan Boys that have never been out of the city.🤣😜🤪

[@garageblitztv3215]

Possibly the best review on the BYD Shark yet … potential purchasers need to know how the system works, both positive and negative so they can make an informed decision. It’s also a great safety announcement so potential buyers understand what’s going on, if under the right circumstances they are at low battery and loaded going up a long steep incline, there is the potential to lose power, or they may have done a couple of overtaking manoeuvres, got mentally use to the time taken, then on another occasion they go to overtake and they lose power.

[@turbostyler]

It passes me off the BYD didn't show off the towing test when it shipped all the sellouts to China to rave on about it. I nearly put a deposit down, but when I couldn't find any info on towing my bullshit meter started ringing. Whats the point of a ute that can't sustainably tow for a long duration? To be fair it would be interesting to see what would have happened if you set the state of charge to 50-60%.

[@jameschen2942]

Paul should have used the 70% battery mode. Can see how it will drop from 70% to 25% in one long steep climb with the engine running

[@badharrow]

Also interesting to understand what percent of ute owners tow. Not every car is for every person. People making out this will fail at being an excavator hauling, long range mountain climbing, enduro truck. Woah no way, who would have thought. But for an urban or suburban setting, where you want to take a small boat down to the ramp or do some light camping (once a year), but you are otherwise commuting and doing Bunnings trips - hey looking good. At 58k? Hmm seems great and now it's also competing against other large SUV family vehicles.

[@mitchelljack1590]

You really can’t think of any uses for a ute that can’t tow? None at all?