2024 Toyota RAV4 Prime VS Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV || Which Plug In Hybrid SUV Is Best?

[@EdwinLing-g4h]

Outlander for me. better ride, and better looking interior

[@alexisirreplaceable]

And exterior

[@rapide12345]

Outlander for me, won top 10 interiors of 2021, named the safest SUV on the market for the year 2023 by U.S News, better AWD System (S-AWC) with AYC and it's rear wheel drive biased, way quieter interior with dual pane glass, an additional 3rd row for emergency use and for me it looks better, less boring looking.

[@carhelpcorner]

All valid points. It is a great SUV.

[@OvidiuHretcanu]

no 3rd row if hybrid though...

[@rapide12345]

@@OvidiuHretcanu The new Plug-In Hybrid Outlander has a third row, the old one doesn't but the new one has.

[@argent10k]

I actually own an Outlander PHEV and just had the trip computer tick over 1000km. Considering PHEVs are designed to be used roughly 80/20 short range driving vs long range driving (where the engine is used) and I've driven it roughly to that ratio, the computer says I'm at 3.8L/100km which translates to about 61MPG. And I'm not babying the car either in terms of driving fun.

[@temlixo2497]

I also own the Outlander PHEV and close to 2000 Km. Got the car in late November and I and my wife really like it for the comfort and the quiet drive. Still learning about the PHEV and how to best use it. The only thing is about the mileage - I have not found a way to calculate the mileage, I charge at least 4 times a week for 8 hours (scheduled charging) leave it in Normal mode - it used gas during the colder days - and most of the time it is using the EV. So far I have filled up twice, total 35L of gas. It behaved quite well on the snowy and icy roads here in BC during the heavy snow and on its standard Ecopia tires.

[@argent10k]

@@temlixo2497 The way I calculated my mileage in my post was simply by charging to max and with a full tank of fuel, resetting the trip meter/fuel/energy economy and then running for 1000km. I already knew I had travelled roughly 200km+ on long range travel where I use Save mode so it makes the Outlander switch between battery and charge. Remainder was in pure EV where the engine does not come on. Then I look at the fuel economy reported and do the calculation based on how much fuel is used to get an estimate of MPG.

[@robtomlinson7570]

Bought a 2024 GT outlander 2 months ago and I'm almost at 2000 KM.... Been through -35 and +15 Celsius here and I FINALLY decided to fill up the gas tank and it wasn't even 1/2 empty but it does kick in for cold weather...1.7/100KM. I drive about 30km a day and I was able to go to a dealership and get what I want....You can't even GET a rav 4 prime and if you do, they are asking 10+ grand over MSRP Mind you the dealerships where I live are trying to add 7 grand over MSRP for the Outlander so I drove to another smaller city and BOOM...got MSRP

[@victormendez3860]

I’ve driven 9000 kms on mine and my average is 1.4lts/100 :)

[@paulblackwood3960]

The outlanders specs are greatly understated. It easily gives 80km+ on ev and 6 to 7L/100 without the battery. No way I'd have the rav over the outlander

[@NoelRCrawford]

I have an Outlander GT PHEV 2023. I get in hybrid mode 5.7 l/100 kms and in summer a range from 85 - 104 kms on battery alone using ACC 95% of the time. In winter (0C) w/o heat pump operating but electric seats on all 4 seats and steering wheel heat on I get 70 kms. With heat pump on I get with electric seats and steering wheel heat on I get 55-60 kms. Hybrid mode in winter is the almost the same as in summer at 6.0/100 kms. It all depends upon how one drives their vehicle. The ride is firm and corners like it is on rails. No wind noise. Tire noise is noticeable on rough pavement with the stock Nexen tires. I would definitely buy this car again.

[@NoelRCrawford]

To add to my comment, this car can operate on 4 wheel drive when using the dial for snow, gravel etc. It is a true EV vehicle while a Rav4 Prime is not as you cannot drive in 4 wheel drive. My dealership in BC is excellent in every way. Parts availability is less than 2 weeks if order is needed. Rav 4 Primes are far too hard to get. When we had snow the car drove like it was on wet pavement. Very impressive compared to my Ford AWD.

[@allensoofian7632]

Excellent info.Thanks

[@dorado0359]

Next to the Outlander, the Rav4 is miniscule...doesnt even make sense to compare these two vehicles. And the Mitsubishi website even describes the Outlander as a midsize near luxury vehicle. Why reviewers try to slot the Outlander as a compact vehicle is puzzling. Bottom line, the Rav4 doesn't even come close to the Outlander.

[@majorstack7214]

The sales say different.

[@akgh2010]

​@@majorstack7214Mitsubishi now offers is really amazingly very attractive. 0% APR for 48 months, 0 down and 90 days comes your 1st payment. My friend, I think sales are on the verge to flip now.

[@tech-travel101]

Forget the Prime, it's impossible to get one. I walked into Mitsubishi dealer yesterday and bought one in stock.

[@thugnificent4627]

He just said about that in the beginning of the video that outlanders are easier to get too lmao

[@tech-travel101]

I emphasize again. Lol

[@mjbayer1838]

I am 6' 7" tall and just purchased a Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV and I fit in to the vehicle. I looked at the Toyota RAV4 prime, Mazda CX70 PHEV, Kia Sportage PHEV, Hyundai PHEV, Ford Escape PHEV and I would have to squeeze in like a pretzel to get into those vehicles. My friend has a Outlander PHEV and uses it for his business and has 280000K with no issues. The Outlander has a CVT transmission, I extended the warranty to 200K. Love the Outlander. I am getting 2.9 L/ 100 km.

[@ejohnson3131]

No CVT transmission in the Outlander.

[@mjbayer1838]

@@ejohnson3131 Nope untrue Toyota and Mazada sales people say this. Checked with Mitisibishi, they advertise a one speed transmission but it is a CVT

[@akgh2010]

​@@ejohnson3131Just FYI, I googled does Outlander Plugin hybrid have CVT transmission, and the answer was, it does.. this is what I got, in quotes of course: " AI Overview Learn more … Yes, the Mitsubishi Outlander Plug-In Hybrid (PHEV) has a continuously variable transmission (CVT), which Mitsubishi calls a 1-speed transmission. The 2024 Outlander PHEV also has a 2.4L I-4 248hp hybrid gas engine, 4-wheel anti-lock brakes (ABS), and 7 passenger seating. The Outlander PHEV's electric motors are powered by a 20 kW Lithium-ion battery that provides 38 miles of all-electric range. When the battery charge is depleted, the vehicle operates as a gas-electric hybrid and gets 27 mpg. The Outlander PHEV also has regenerative braking that recharges the battery with energy that would otherwise be lost when the brakes are applied. When the accelerator is lifted, the electric motors act as generators to feed power back to the batteries. "

[@HerNameWasMcGillShe]

Former Prime owner her. I would get up to 80km range in the summer and as low as 40km in winter. When the battery was depleted, I would average 6.3 l/100km which is significantly less than the RAV4 Hybrid I had which averaged 5.5 l/km. Thought I would share that with all of you.

[@carhelpcorner]

Great insight. Thanks for sharing!

[@stephenwerner1662]

Curious.......where approximately do you live? Also, have you measured the mpg for your Prime for a full year?

[@HerNameWasMcGillShe]

@@stephenwerner1662Toronto and just under a year.

[@LarryHopper]

Called herself Jill, but everyone knew her as Nancy, yes?

[@akgh2010]

Thanks for the insight

[@temlixo2497]

I waited for 2 years for the RAV4 Prime. I passed and got the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV and I am so far very happy with it. With Toyota dealers there is no possible negotiation; I was called to visit the dealership as my car arrived, was told to sign the papers immediately and assessed my trade-in vehicle (a Toyota Camry) with a value 55% below the average market price. It was a take it or leave it, so I left. I have owned 4 Toyota cars for the last 40 years, and well... Comparing the cars, I like the Mitsubishi interior much better and I also enjoy the ride quality. We had a big snow last month, the Mitsubishi did well with the all-season tires it came with - I plan replace them with the all-weather tires after the summer and I shall be set for the next winter!

[@EscapeToVictoryNow]

2 years is a typo mistake right ?

[@temlixo2497]

@@EscapeToVictoryNow Not a typo. I paid the fee to reserve the RAV4 Prime in 2021-06 and in 2023-04 the dealer called to advise my car was on the way and should get it by end of 2023-05. It was a 2 year wait 🙄.

[@akgh2010]

I can vouch for the info that Toyota car dealers are really tough to negotiate. I have now 3 Hybrid Prius cars and looking to buy a Plugin Hybrid EV car. I read most of the comments and I see more than 99% of them prefers Outlander over R4, oven the previous owners of R4. Thanks for sharing.

[@mileitman]

The Mitsubishi dealer network in Canada isn't that bad. I know the US is an issue in that regard.

[@freytheviking]

I rented an Outlander for a week. It’s such a better car than the RAV4 and is built in Japan. Sleeper in the category.

[@vladazco9068]

i bought Outlander after waiting almost a year, and after Toyota declined because of "potential 5 years waiting time". Outlander is bigger, more payload, more cargo space, more towing capacity, and as I tested this winter in the Rockies, excellent ability to go uphill in deep snow and other off-road situations. So in some way I was forced to make a better choice. I trust the 10 years warranty as the company has been around from back before WW2, experienced in making airplanes and in reliability. I charge it at home automatically from solar panels by excess of energy after the house batteries are charged, sufficient even through the winter lesser day-light hours. Still able to chose charging from the grid if necessary, just by flipping extra circuit breaker on my designated panel.

[@franzpenzinger6627]

An excellent report, with compliments and greetings from Austria.

[@mohammedalgheryafi7784]

Good comparison. RAV4, anytime, all the time.

[@ImInYourHead24.7]

The 2013 Outlander was the first plug in hybrid, not the toyo

[@petergoodall6258]

Mitsubishi has been selling them for ten years

[@actionjp8735]

Plug in Prius 2012, and the Chevy Volt was well before that.

[@thugnificent4627]

@@actionjp8735 Chevrolet Volt 2011 vs Mitsubishi i-MiEV 2009

[@steverooney5822]

I'd go with the Outlander. Why consider something else you may not get for a couple years down the road?

[@icbc228]

Of course Toyota is better but the long wait and price keep going up during the wait, the low trade in value of your own car, is not good. Getting the Outlander tomorrow.

[@becoolmanilaners5256]

Mitsubishi Electric especially in USA 🇺🇸

[@TheTarotCardGuy]

Looked at both and bought the Prime.I really dont like the look of the Outlander compared to the Prime, but the Outlanders interior blows the Prime away. Toyota stiffed us on our trade in, and in hindset we should have seen what Mitsu would have offered us. That being said, we love Toyota reliability and swear by them. I just finished an 11 hour, round trip road trip and had a blast driving the Prime through the mountain twists and turns. We are currently getting 1.9ltr/100km for mileage.

[@B33ond]

Resale is the winner with Toyota.

[@LarryHopper]

Neither car is especially beautiful, but the Mitsubishi's front end turns me off. Keep up the great work, Shari.

[@carhelpcorner]

Thank you!

[@PaulStephenson-lf2dw]

Seems like a ridiculous comparison. RAV4 Prime is the clear leader of the pack for a PHEV compact SUV. In the USA, Mitsubishi has the smallest dealer network of all mainstream brands. This is a major concern if you breakdown and are no where near a dealership. The 26 MPG in Hybrid mode is horrible. That’s what you would get with an ICE.

[@allensoofian7632]

You never get 26 MPG with the Outlander in real life. The worst I got was 7L/100 KM(33 MPG). Also, Rav4 interior is so clunky with a plasticky and noisy interior with a poor all-wheel-drive system. A part of the efficiency difference is because of the size of Mitsu. It is way bigger in width and height and heavier than RaV4. That's why it is not as efficient as Rav4 but who cares? The difference is miniscule.

[@pincus321]

I bought and Outlander, that says it all.

[@Nick-zy9tx]

I think for the reliability component you could have used some figures illustrating the reliability of manufacturers, depreciation and comparison of battery chemistries to estimate cycle life of the batteries to determine reliability. I'm still left scratching my head which of these is the better vehicle given 1. toyota tax, 2. long lead times on the Toyota. The Mitsubishi is still manufactured in Japan whereas the Toyota is manufactured elsewhere.

[@KO-sx9uy]

Rav 4 has 0.75 skidpad - that's unacceptable imo. Also the Outlander PHEV has been around since 2013 globally.

[@Alfy1950]

You mentioned that the outlander has three electric motors, 2 up front and one rear. In fact it has only two electric motors one front ( 114 HP ) and one rear ( 134 HP ).

[@niranjang7245]

Hi Shari, we r planning on a vacation this Christmas to the US. Planning to park the car in the airport parking for a week. Would I be able to start normally after the car sat for a week (will fill up.with gas though)? Or do u have any recommendations/pointers that I need to be aware of..

[@carhelpcorner]

You should be fine for a week or so. Due to the computers/electronics, modern cars could experience battery drain after sitting too long. I wouldn't let any modern car sit for more than two weeks without a battery tender.

[@GreatLook76]

Please! Your recommendation between kia sportage hybride, hyundai tucson hybride and mitsubishi outlander phev .. which is the best ..... Mazda cx-70 hybride ( 2024 -2025 )

[@S.A-w6j]

Toyota RAV4 looks atleast a generation old when compared with the Outlander design , both interior and exterior. The Outlander is bigger and modern with a better warranty. The waiting time for RAV4 Prime is 2.5years + in Canada and that's where it loses the race with Outlander PHEV.

[@evelineprisanti5352]

Japanese cars in general are good!

[@AlejandroArchila1]

We own 6 Mitsubishi and 2 Toyotas including the new gas powered Mitsubishi Outlander and new gasoline Rav4 both are great but Mitsubishi is better in our experience, more refined and modern very sophisticated S-AWC system and very reliable cars, Mitsubishi is underrated here in the U.S.

[@rapide12345]

Also the Outlander only has 2 electric motors not 3, 85KW on the front and 100KW on the rear.

[@carhelpcorner]

Technically there is a third motor up front which is a starter generator motor.

[@mrmozart41]

@@carhelpcorner It's the same motor/generator that also charges the drive battery if necessary (or intentioned if in charge mode).

[@CritCommanda]

I know Mitsubishi has a longer warranty, but does it matter when making a warranty claim is so much more of an ordeal with Mitsubishi than Toyota? I feel that cost of maintenance, Mitsubishi's poor customer service and Toyota's wider service network are bigger factors than the length of the warranty

[@weilinwill]

Thanks Shari for the insightful comparison. What's the life expectancy of a lithium ion battery in a hybrid vehicle like these under normal usage? Does any of the two manufacturers mention about replacing the battery after certain period of time?

[@carhelpcorner]

Both have a 10 year battery warranty. Beyond that, they normally last 12-15 years. At that point, replacing the battery in the Toyota will be far easier and less expensive thanks to their popularity.

[@MrAbelmedina80]

Outlander phev. Cuidado. Compré esta camioneta y en sólo 10 meses presenta una falla eléctrica de la cual no tienen idea como solucionar. Después de semanas siguen "haciendo pruebas" sin dar una solución. Al hacer referencia a la garantía de la camioneta nadie se hace responsable en la agencia y solo te dan el teléfono de planta en donde simplemente te contesta una persona que te dice que están viendo como solucionar el problema.

[@paulblackwood3960]

Outlander understates its specs. It's the better car.

[@sukhpoonib]

WIth a full tank and full battery an outlander can go for 1000kms. I dont know what is he talking about when comes to efficiency.

[@waldemargiers9641]

Availability is my main concern to me. I'm waiting for R4Prime since I ordered it and put downpayment down in Sep 2022. I'm thinking to go for Highlander hybrid and forged Prime all together. I'm in Alberta BTW.

[@carhelpcorner]

Wait times are really bad in Alberta. I'd say a RAV4 Hybrid is your best bet for Toyota. Otherwise, look at the Honda CR-V Hybrid. Much better availability.

[@jwb1358]

To me Toyota Rav 4 would be worth the wait.

[@kevinsargent6282]

Interesting comparison, but I have a hard time with the relatively poor fuel economy of the Mitsubishi, and I am not confident on the long term reliability either, where Toyota has a stellar reputation, particularly the hybrid drivetrain. The emergency 3rd row (and level 3 charging, even if chademo) in the Outlander is a nice benefit though! 🙂

[@billyrock8305]

Easy decision. Toyota RAV4 for another win 🏆 Better yet buy the Hybrid only model. Save $20,000 and about the same operating costs. 😊

[@deanlee8150]

Are there any concerns about extremely cold temperatures with either car?

[@carhelpcorner]

Both a have a heat pump so they can run fine in the cold even in EV mode, especially if you precondition the battery. When it is well below freezing, the gas engine will need to turn on and it will run fine like a normal hybrid.

[@deanlee8150]

@@carhelpcorner I was referring to this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/foumgY2ZqNdjf8k

[@mrmozart41]

@@carhelpcorner If it is very cold (bolow -25C/-13F), the Mitsubishi turns into a large brick. The manual on page 1-15 literally says "Wait for the outside temperature to rise". It won't run, it won't even charge. It does not have a battery heater, the gas engine won't start until the drive battery is operational again. I live in the Seattle area, so it does not concern me, but if you are in Alberta or Minnesota or wherever it can get that cold in the winter, don't buy the Outlander!

[@nikolayrayanov2895]

@@mrmozart41 if you keep it plugged in, it will be fine.

[@Doc1855]

Toyota is number One

[@narindersoi]

I used both the PHEV and surely this is a biased review. Looks like this guy is paid by Toyota.

[@mikej238]

😂 🤡

[@billyrock8305]

🤡 🤡 Alert ! 🚨 😂😂

[@novatech2496]

True 😂

[@henryhonda8408]

💩🤡💩🤡💩🤡

[@craigo2142]

Toyota would be my choice for reliability and resale value. I would rather wait to get one than buy the Outlander now.

[@SV-du2pf]

For the ease of mind I would rather go with the solid reputation of Toyota and I’m willing to wait.

[@Karl-Benny]

In 10 years the battery will be much cheaper

[@akgh2010]

Or.. deprecated and not manufactured anymore. But then, you would have enjoy riding it for 10 years, so you get what you paid for.

[@jasonkirkland1304]

You can't buy a RAV4 prime in Canada....

[@notsoeasyryder5150]

I did, in October of '23. Wait time was 10 days, but I lucked out.

[@henryhonda8408]

I got one after 7 months.

[@messierthirtyone777]

For me as a buyer, It's a tough call between Rav4 and the Outlander (Non Phev models). - Cost and availibility of Spares (Lot many toyotas on the road, more availibility of spares and after market parts) - Cost of maintianance over time (few Mitsubishi dealers in Canada so dealers charge more for service) - Engine reliability vs power vs performance (Rav4 seems to have a slight advantage in terms of fuel efficiency and power) - Rugged vs refined (Outlander looks and feels more classy) - Spare tire (Rav4 offers a donut wheel for peace of mind, doing long trips in an outlander seems risky) - Cargo space (The outlander must have the third row seats tucked in to almost match the cargo space of a Rav4) - Battle of the warranties (Mitsubishi offers 10 year/ 160K Kms engine and transmission warranty which is unmatched) - Build quality (Outlander is assembled in Japan, so its super fine, but the Rav4 has a better underside that prevents it from rusting) - Infotainment (Outlander has a more engaging and classier cluster and infotainment center) - Rav4 has a proven engine, outlander engine (made by Nissan - PRD25DD) is fairly new. - Toyotas fetch better resale values

[@keyner111]

The engine on the Outlander PHEV is not the PR25DD, it's the 4B12 MIVEC from Mitsubishi.

[@joey86bu1]

Not even a comparison imo.

[@topherinbr]

Always go with Toyota. Proven track record. I've heard Mitsu owners having a lot of issues after 80k miles ish 🤔

[@codygibson3765]

New Tundra owners and Grand highlander owners are having some pretty serious issues right off the lot

[@MrMWDDave]

Just as a heads up, Consumer Reports lists the Outlander PHEV as 87/100 on reliability and the RAV4 Prime as 84/100. The Outlander also has a significantly better factory warranty. 5y/100k vs 3y/60k.

[@AmO-z5h]

Rav 4 is just the worst design ever :) LEGO-car

[@henryhonda8408]

😂😂🤡🤡

[@dreghf]

I'll always take Toyota over Mitsubishi.

[@Highclassnail]

But outlander is like no taste super ugly from the front😅

[@abinavd]

It is always about the resale that prevents me from getting a Mitsubishi😊

[@christopherhaynes5]

This guy is so biased for Toyota and/or Toyota products. Psh. Unsubscribe.

[@wholeNwon]

Because he's right. After 60 yrs. of car ownership, I'll never deviate from Toyota products again.

[@christopherhaynes5]

@wholeNwon Your biased is showing also. Based on his opinions and yes, he's allowed that. Several other platforms have chosen the competitors over Toyota but ok. 🙄

[@christopherhaynes5]

@wholeNwon But given the stakes are Toyota and Mitsubishi, the obvious choice is gonna be Toyota. You're comparing a sub par company like Mitsu(which manages to rake in the money) compared to a Top tier. There's no comparison. We all knew who was gonna "win". Give me a break.

[@wholeNwon]

@@christopherhaynes5 Of course I am "biased" in favor of a product that has outperformed all of the other vehicles that have been in my very long life. Yes, I do look at large published data bases on the subject and am gratified when they, too, conclude that Toyota produces superior products. Are they perfect? Certainly not but it's all relative.

[@waldemargiers9641]

I'm also biased for company consistently producing outstanding hehicles.

[@islanddon865]

The Mitsu is hideous beyond belief it's right there with the Ford Edsel, AMC Pacer, BMW Isetta and the Soviet Zaporozhetz. 😂

[@carhelpcorner]

Some say it looks a bit like a Range Rover Evoque.

[@islanddon865]

@@carhelpcorner As much as l repudiate Range Rover quality, l would never stoop to such depths as comparing them to this Mitsu.

[@mrmozart41]

@@islanddon865 What you see as "hideous", others would call "different" or "interesting". And when you drive, what you see is the interior - which is nicer in the Mitsubishi. Who cares what others think about the exterior! Also, the recessed headlights have a distinct advantage - they have a much better chance to survive a fender bender.

[@EdwinLing-g4h]

Outlander for me. better ride, and better looking interior