A look back at the one of the greatest and most controversial middleweight champions in history, Carlos Monzon.If you wish to donate/support the channel please click here: www.paypal.com/donate?hosted_...
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@Nick-rk2uc Жыл бұрын
"He hired Gino not to bodyguard Monzon from the public but to protect the public from Monzon". What a quote
@facundoder895311 ай бұрын
Un tipo complicado
@DanHunterSportsWriter2 жыл бұрын
Carlos Monzon was a huge star outside the ring in the Spanish speaking world back in the 70s. Magazines like Hola! often featured him because he lived the European jet-set lifestyle, he looked like a movie star, and he always had a gorgeous woman on his arm. Of course years later we learned that behind the glamourous façade he was still that mean street kid from the worst barrio in Buenos Aires. Violence and Monzon went hand in hand.
@MAuric10bal Жыл бұрын
He was from Santa Fe, not BA.
@edmondbrandon1273 Жыл бұрын
$$$$
@DemoverProjectMusic Жыл бұрын
Dan Hunter@And who are you to say who C. Monzon really was ???Years later we learned that Glamor there was still that bad street boy(...) But why are you babbling and judging things you've only heard through the mass media???People who think like you are extremely violent, because even if they don't know the real situation, they shoot zero ...We Westerners because of people like you (who represent most of the people) have reduced ourselves to feminine parlor gossip ... That's why our dear Western civilization is about to collapse and be definitively enslaved ... You never judge what you do not know, if you have your hypotheses you keep them to yourself otherwise you behave like the most revolting slanderer, and if you act like this with a character like Monzon you will surely do it with people who live on the same floor as you
@Aguz25 Жыл бұрын
Monzon's true problem was alcohol. He was shy and quiet when sober, but become a monster when started to drink. Susana and Amilcar Brusa (his trainer) said that. Great work and vid.
@70gabino2 жыл бұрын
Amazing work! Monzon is one of those cases where you have to separate the artist from his craft. Loved him as a boxer, despised him as a human being.
@RichtheFightHistorian2 жыл бұрын
Very true.
@godsownfool72 жыл бұрын
Actually, no one "has to" seperate anything. I remember watching monzon as a child, and I thought he was great. As an adult, I realized that the man was a real piece of crap. Every man is a MAN(good or bad) FIRST, and a boxer or champion 2nd!
@richardmorris70632 жыл бұрын
Alls fair in love & war but u don't hit woman where I'm from.
@normancook9652 жыл бұрын
@@godsownfool7 That's very well put
@keysersoze34272 жыл бұрын
@@richardmorris7063 Same here, but I have started thinking about how mental illness and factors like CTE play a part In this behaviour. If you take a person with mental health/personality issues and put them in a sport where they get punched in the head it's not going to end well.
@tigaagul72 жыл бұрын
That picture of his wife face down, pool of blood and broken leg is terrible, I couldn't imagine the child growing up knowing what his father did to his mother or her parents. Amazingly talented box however he possessed what few men ever had in the ring, enjoying delivering the pain. thank you for the mini doc, well done.
@biomadnesstrip Жыл бұрын
This documentary is superb, you really know how to tell the story of violent but talented man full of anger. You forgot to mention that when his trainer took him to a doctor to make some x-rays, they discovered that Monzon's hand bones were hollow, caused by malnutrition. Thats the reason his style looks slow, he's saving his hands by throwing acurrate and devastating blows.
@cedricliggins75282 жыл бұрын
Hats off. This is one of the best documentaries I've seen abt Monzon.
@RichtheFightHistorian2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Cedric.
@mikepedroza92182 жыл бұрын
Excellent documentary so much about this great fighter I didn’t know
@cedricliggins75282 жыл бұрын
@@RichtheFightHistorian Keep up the great work. New subscriber here.
@jimmymalone91392 жыл бұрын
@@RichtheFightHistorian nice on rich
@richardmorris70632 жыл бұрын
Rich ,in you're opinion how would Carlos have faired against Marvin Hagler?
@MorrisBenton482 жыл бұрын
So far this is the best documentary I have seen for Carlos Monzon. Monzon had his last 80 consecutive professional fights without a loss during a very competitive middleweight period. But his story leaves me sad. Boxing is in my family.
@oncall212 жыл бұрын
One of the best, if not, the best documentaries you have shared Rich. It epitomizes everything in the tragic boxing figure. Sadly this was reality in the form of Monzon and those around him during his life. From the pain of being born into poverty and the punishment he would dish out on not only his opponents, but on the very ones who loved him. Thanks for sharing!
@RichtheFightHistorian2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, oncall21.
@Braglemaster1232 жыл бұрын
@@RichtheFightHistorian He’s was great he was a maniac “
@domdolittle2 жыл бұрын
I saw the 2 fights against Jean Claude Boutier in Paris, in the early 70s, Boutier was one of the best French boxers since Marcel Cerdan, Carlos fought like a demon in those 2 fights, destroying Boutier's future and hopes of a World tittle... Carlos Monzon was one of the best, pound for pounds, boxer the World has ever seen !
@peterh13532 жыл бұрын
Jean Claude Bouttier was a class fighter, but he was no Monzon. Died a short while ago. Never seemed to suffer any ill effects from his fighting career.
@andreasmissiroli6915 Жыл бұрын
so did you attend the fight at Alain Delon Home , Douchy - right in between Paris and Auxerre
@jamescook87862 жыл бұрын
Monzon had a very particular presence about him. There was a malevolent coolness to him and how he operated in the ring. For a tall fighter Monzon was very strong, built like a cigar store Indian. A truly unique figure in boxing history. I had recently read a book written by a French boxing media figure Pierre Cangioni so I was aware of just how bad a history he had with his girlfriends and wives. Thank you for making this documentary.
@RichtheFightHistorian2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, James. I'll have to look up that book.
@peterh13532 жыл бұрын
The one thing that no one mentions is his incredible stamina. I mean he could throw hard punches for 15 rounds with both hands. He must have had an incredible pulse range. His training was just hitting hard bags for an hour. Not stopping and not even be sweating!
@ricardoricochet30212 жыл бұрын
@@peterh1353 what is pulse range
@peterh13532 жыл бұрын
@@ricardoricochet3021 How hard you can work without getting in to oxygen debt. You can read as much detail as want on the web...
@davidgoulden59562 жыл бұрын
Ace description of Monson there.
@toddschulz28072 жыл бұрын
Excellent Bio on Monzon. He is still a source of pride and also sadness in Argentina. What a great fighter with complicated life.
@brocklanders36162 жыл бұрын
Monzon is a middleweight legend. When you grew up in a violent, poverty stricken area. It's hard just to turn it off when you're not in the ring. The rage and pain never goes away.
@grandwonder58582 жыл бұрын
He's the real life Mr. Raging Bull!
@quadirbrown38002 жыл бұрын
That's a fact my friend.
@Belburg2 жыл бұрын
@@grandwonder5858 Someone on a boxing forum was trying to say something happened to Monzon while he was in jail. Is this true?
@Hernal032 жыл бұрын
@@Belburg Yeah, something happened to Monzon in jail alright. He lost years of his life due to his own violent tendencies, that's what. I don't think he _'dropped the soap'_ in the common shower area if that is what you were trying to ask in your post.
@peterh13532 жыл бұрын
@@Belburg If you have money you can get a good life in jail in South America.
@timgutierrez22112 жыл бұрын
You do an excellent job and should be a documentary film maker. I love the way you tell the whole story both good and bad without any bias so as to see the fighters life as it was.
@RichtheFightHistorian2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Tim.
@serenityinside12 жыл бұрын
He IS a “ documentary filmmaker “ -,wgg he at gave you just watched ? On the most viewed website in the world ?!! 🙄
@serenityinside12 жыл бұрын
* what have you ... 🙄 predictive text etc
@uncjim2 жыл бұрын
Citizen Journalism
@johnbolton21492 жыл бұрын
@@RichtheFightHistorian can you make one on Golovkin please? His story is incredible.
@energyexecs Жыл бұрын
...I too grew up poor seeing my poor father lose his business -he had six kids and I was one of them. I moved out as soon as I could gave my car to my brother and sister. When you grow up like an alley cat it's hard to trust anyone; ready to pounce and win. All this ended when I discovered The Good Lord provides everlasting love and our sins are forgiven and go sin no more. I hope Monzon met his Maker.
@c.c.76872 жыл бұрын
This is easily the BEST Carlos Monzon doc on KZbin. Great job!
@RichtheFightHistorian2 жыл бұрын
Wow. Thank you.
@arjunakorale81032 жыл бұрын
@@jaunnada3648 Okay, Juan, so please tell us about the most factual on?
@dennisfboston45432 жыл бұрын
Jesus I didn't realize Monson did all those horrible things. These documentaries are great thx again. Great fight but terrible past.
@uncletony62102 жыл бұрын
Dude went undefeated in his last 79 fights. Not every boxer can say that.
@richardmorris70632 жыл бұрын
I saw a new rating on you tube recently where Carlos was #2 all-time greatest fighter behind Floyd & ahead of Ali.Gotta learn more about him as I watched mostly heavy weights when I was young.
@uncletony62102 жыл бұрын
@@richardmorris7063 Yeah, as a kid in the 70s, I knew the heavyweights and SRL.
@hot-headedloosewire68782 жыл бұрын
@@richardmorris7063 where can I watch this video you talking about?
@richardmorris70632 жыл бұрын
@@hot-headedloosewire6878 it popped up on google 3 days ago.It was a pts system based off w-L strength of competition.Marciano was 18,& jack johnson 24 i believe..
@peterh13532 жыл бұрын
He learned in the ring against fully grown men when merely a novice teenager. Don't think you can take his record straight. There is no proper film of him having a competitive fight!
@richarddalbis33232 жыл бұрын
Top 3 Greatest boxers of all boxers of ALL weight classes of All time. IMO Thank you for this post.
@richarddalbis33232 жыл бұрын
@@davehimlin2374 A very good question! Unfortunately, The Hawk was a juicer (PED). To what extent and in how many fights no one knows. His trainer was no stranger to PED's. There is ample proof in the Arquello fight he was juiced. Sad but true. The most important thing in our sport is to make sure VADA testing is the norm.
@slybear5252 жыл бұрын
This is a fantastic documentary! I loved watching Carlos Monzon’s fights. He was so tough! He really knew how to use that long reach! Thanks for sharing this. I knew little about him til now. Keep up the excellent work!
@RichtheFightHistorian2 жыл бұрын
Will do, thanks.
@paulvon23782 жыл бұрын
real tough on women.
@slybear5252 жыл бұрын
@@paulvon2378 Yes, unfortunately. I Don’t like or ignore that aspect of his history.
@richardmorris70632 жыл бұрын
Real men don't hit woman.
@peterh13532 жыл бұрын
@@paulvon2378 There is a possibility he had brain damage. He would be violent to everybody and anybody. People who were no threat to him. Kids even.
@sergiomarretta37539 ай бұрын
This man, besides being a technical master of the sweet science also had some kind of X factor few men possess. You will find most notable boxers being actually kind and lovable outside of the ring, Carlos was cut from a different cloth, he was just plain evil, the big question is did life made him like that? Or was it just in his DNA?
@MonkeyDToniProductions20 күн бұрын
Very possible he was made that way since violence was always around him and he was always somewhat involved in it
@RELopez-mk4ic Жыл бұрын
I watched all of his fights in the 70's on a small black and white television set. He was my first boxing hero. I also watched Roberto Duran beat Ken Buchanan in a very controversial ending on the same set. These two boxers were my favorites, especially Duran. As I grew older and found out about Monzon's behavior, I lost a lot of respect for him. Great work Rich, love the channel. Looking forward to more of your outstanding work!
@RichtheFightHistorian Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support, R E
@sophiafreeman1993 Жыл бұрын
NEVER FOUGHT HAGLER !?
@RELopez-mk4ic Жыл бұрын
As I grew older, Hagler became my favorite boxer. I think Hagler could have beaten anyone he faced. I actually felt like he beat Leonard. Like I mentioned, Duran and Hagler are my favorite boxers. Monzon did some horrible things to his wife.
@georgedonaldson62522 жыл бұрын
This is an outstanding documentary. Monzon is the personification of the troubled fighter. Excellent upload.
@ETH852 жыл бұрын
Edwin Valero was the same
@wormsnake12 жыл бұрын
Really interesting documentary. It’s a shame he could not get help for his behaviour outside the ring. A brilliant boxer inside it.🥊.x
@meisteremm2 жыл бұрын
Edwin Valero reminded me so much of Carlos Monzon. Same uncontrollable anger and both of their wives suffered because of it.
@quadirbrown38002 жыл бұрын
Wow I forgot about Valero. He was like Monzon. RAGE
@meisteremm2 жыл бұрын
@@quadirbrown3800 You really have to wonder how much that motorcycle accident contributed to his homicidal anger. I suppose making a career out of getting his brain bounced around inside of his skull didn't help matters much either.
@quadirbrown38002 жыл бұрын
@@meisteremm I think your right that accident probably had something to do with Valero and he did why he did what he did.
@cheekclapper39602 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@jodirt6582 жыл бұрын
Valero was framed because he was going to leave his country to come to the states seen a docu on him and he was murdered while in jail
@idcook2 жыл бұрын
A story rife with glory, violence and tragedy; beautifully rendered here. I’d never quite understood Munzon; a man as passionately driven as he was emotionally damaged. A life of glittering achievement melded with monstrous destruction of everything and everyone that he loved as well as himself.
@biomadnesstrip Жыл бұрын
Lyke tyson said, "if I had not been a boxer I would be proable dead".
@godsownfool7 Жыл бұрын
With all his bouts - another case of a boxer showing the results of Drain Bamage.😖😤
@2msvalkyrie5292 жыл бұрын
Great to see footage of a couple of other greats ; Jose Napoles and Bennie Briscoe . RIP both.
@peytonlucy59472 жыл бұрын
The three best fighters of the 1970's, general consensus, were Duran, Monzon, and Ali.
@blackwidowsm2 жыл бұрын
My ranking would be 1. Monzon I only have him ranked 2 overall at middleweight behind the incomparable sugar ray Robinson. 2. Wilfredo Gomez He drew his first fight knocked out every other opponent in 70s. He regarded at best Bantamweight never losing at that weight. 3 Ali Ali lost too many times for top spot in my rankings. To be on this list. Both Monzon and Gomez didn’t lose a fight in 70s. Ali not only list to Frazier Norton but please explain Leon Spinks. Who simply out worked ali can’t take that away from Leon, he had a lot of heart very tough despite limited skill. He simply outworked you. Respect! Both Gomez and Monzon has just a tough as fights this was a great era for middleweights and bantamweight fighters. Gomez wouldn’t lose until fighting the best fighter in my lifetime Salvatore Sanchez in 1982. Who had a short career but a great career. His last fight was against the great Azumah Nelson giving him his first loss he wouldn’t take another loss loss for over the next decade. As great as Gomez and Nelson were Sanchez was an another level. The last great 15 round boxer. When people talk going into deep waters they refer to rounds 13-15. Miss that today when so many fights were actually decided. My fourth was Duran. He only lost to once to the difficult Esteban De Jesus in subsequent rematches he ko him both times. I don’t value heavy weights as much as the lighter weights here. The divisions were deeper despite it being a golden age of heavy weights you had great fighters of depth across board in 70s heavy’s were just the glamour division. You had Danny lil red lopez st featherweight who minus Sanchez only lost once. He held featherweight title a long time, you had Duran at lightweight Gomez at Batam Duran and Gomez were in no hurry to face Danny lopez he of the punishing power of the lower weights. Took a special fighter like Salvatore Sanchez to beat lil red. As lilnred said after the second encounter might as well retire if I can’t be champion he too good. A lot of fighters said that about Sanchez.
@juanmanuelbonzano2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Here in Argentina he's still considered of the last great boxers this country produced and possibly one of the greatest middleweights of all time. While you can't deny that he was a monster in his personal life looking at his story of domestic abuse against women and assault against everybody who didn't like him, you also can't deny the beast that he was in the ring.
@tidefanyankee24282 жыл бұрын
I would rank Monzon as one of the 3 best middleweights of all time, along with Sugar Ray Robinson, and Marvin Hagler. Tall, a great puncher, great boxer, well conditioned and tough. He refused to lose.
@sahb4049 Жыл бұрын
@@tidefanyankee2428 But....A cowardly wife beater and murderer. He strangles and beats the mother of his child and throws her off a balcony. Nice guy, should have been EXECUTED!! But yeah, he was an excellent boxer.😳😳😳
@paulbuckels12842 жыл бұрын
Excellent. So many tragic stories in the fight game.
@michaelferreri12562 жыл бұрын
Another great job Rich. I can see why Monzon is so highly regarded. He had a brutal style and accurate approach. Crazy story!
@RichtheFightHistorian2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Michael. Yeah, you can really see how accurate he was in the Benvenuti fights.
@thegadflygang53812 жыл бұрын
THE SHOTGUN. A signed copy of Ring Mag from 1977 my granddad gave me is mounted proudly on my wall. Neck and neck with names like Duran and Hagler as an equal while outclassing the likes of Trinidad and BHop. This guy was SO SO DAMN GOOD I Cant even put it in words. Nobody owned Middleweight like him, just raw fury. He had the looks and talent to be eternal but the anger issues of Edwin Valero which obscured his memory Great video as usual Rich, although The Shotgun is way above the obscure and little known. You did him justice though. Beautiful fighter. Just beautiful
@RichtheFightHistorian2 жыл бұрын
Man, that is a collector's item. Keep that baby mounted.
@Pablo-ig7tx2 жыл бұрын
@@thegadflygang5381 He was Fully Native American from the Mocovi tribe which is an Indigenous group from Argentina ... why him being mestizo would have more sense as for him being good looking ?... well , unfortunately for you he was 100% Native American. I am Castizo ( Predominantly white, mixed with a lesser amount of Native american blood from the Andean Region of Argentina , from Salta Province 🇦🇷 ) and you can see from my facial features i am mixed but Monzon is more handsome being 100% Native. Native american doesnt need to be mixed to be good looking people 😒 Monzon was often said to be Good looking because of his Native American features, he has nothing of a mixed man at all, nothing White about him. Plus, Not every Native American tribe looks exactly the same : My Grandma is predominantly Native american from the Andean région, she has strong Native american Andean features and has a bit of spanish blood ( which is where i have my curly hair from ) but her grandpa was FULLY Native american and his wife a " criolla " which is what we call a spanish descent individual born in the Americas, in this case Argentina. My english is not the best sorry 😐
@thegadflygang5381 Жыл бұрын
@@Pablo-ig7tx hey brother, apologies if I offended you it wasnt my intention. Outside of boxing the only thing I ever really studied was forensic anthropology which i never did anything with after school but still enjoy it. I was never one for beaches or resorts, I used training as a means to travel and got to spend time in south America and the middle east. My only point is there is zero chance Monzon is pure Indio. He has Spanish ad mixture. Not a plus or minus, just a fact as i believe the average height of Indios in South America mountainous regions is like 5'1" or 2". Carlos was almost 6'. You can see it in his face as well, the native super high cheekbones with a more aquiline nose and squared Spanish chin/jaw As mentioned Im a huge El Inca fan and Edwin also had some Spanish ad mixture. Unless you are in a remote tribe in the mountains or Amazon odds are you have at least a bit of Spanish in you. Genuinely sorry if it came across in a way that hurt or insulted you. I get it Im super into the ancestry thing personally which is why i took up anthropology as a way to burn four years of college. Take care
@byronf21122 жыл бұрын
Monzon is one helluva story isn't he?... what a fantastic video, stands up there with any sports program I've watched from any provider... paid or otherwise. subscribed and watched many of your videos in just a couplea days.. Thank you for your good work Rich.
@RichtheFightHistorian2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that, Byron, thank you.
@martinmunnelly54752 жыл бұрын
Thats your best doc yet .Monzon vs Hagler probably would of been one of the best of all time
@RichtheFightHistorian2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Martin.
@quadirbrown38002 жыл бұрын
Wow what a battle that would be.
@martinmunnelly54752 жыл бұрын
@@quadirbrown3800 and you honestly you couldn't call it maybe hagler was more strick fitness wise but Monzon fought like you stole off his mother and was a very good boxer with a brilliant jab I doubt he hit as hard as hagler but hit hard enough truly a 50/50
@quadirbrown38002 жыл бұрын
@@martinmunnelly5475 no way bro. Monzon vs Hagler is a dream match. I can't pick a winner. It's a Draw.
@quadirbrown38002 жыл бұрын
@@TugIronChief watch your mouth. He may have been a shitty person but you are disrespecting maybe the greatest middleweight ever a man who retired as champion. Monzon was no bum at all.
@andypicken78482 жыл бұрын
Smashing liitle production Rich. Enjoyed it cheers
@RichtheFightHistorian2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Andy.
@dltguitar65322 жыл бұрын
My top 5 Argentine fighters- 1. Carlos Monzon 2. Victor Galindez 3. Nicolino Locche 4.Sergio Martinez 5. Julio Cesar Vazquez .. or Oscar Bonavena or Juan Martin Coggi thoughts on my list appreciated
@RichtheFightHistorian2 жыл бұрын
Sounds about right...#5 can be interchangeable with Laciar or Maidana...Maybe Ubaldo Sacco but he really didn't really achieve as much as the the fighters you've listed.
@dltguitar65322 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I also overlooked 60’s flyweight champ pascual Perez. Your videos are great
@RichtheFightHistorian2 жыл бұрын
@@dltguitar6532 Oh yeah, I forgot him too :(
@winningbigly66662 жыл бұрын
At one time Lucas Matheysse (sorry if I butchered that spelling!) looked like he was on his way to making that top 5 list but after his loss to Danny Garcia, his career went downhill. Maidana is up there as well. Argentina has produced some great fighters
@dltguitar65322 жыл бұрын
@@winningbigly6666 Thats true I thought he was going to KO Garcia but he didn't and then kind of faded after that
@bendean42552 жыл бұрын
Never been a huge boxing fan but man you can tell a story. And watching these highlight reels of real legends duke it out is unbelievable. Great content! The old HBO and Showtime fights don’t hold a candle to the videos you are producing.
@RichtheFightHistorian2 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks, Ben Dean, I appreciate that.
@Joe-hf3cn Жыл бұрын
Wide World of Sports..that was the best sports programming of all time..... Chris Schenkel, " the thrill of victory, the agony of defeat "
@matthewmayfield80952 жыл бұрын
These are perfect! You really fit everything in in a short enough time to keep attention up. Please keep them coming.
@RichtheFightHistorian2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Will do!
@pauliedibbs9028 Жыл бұрын
Monzon's story would make a great film...
@CJ-lm4tn2 жыл бұрын
I watch alot of boxing but never heard of this man until today. He had it all to bad his demons got the best of him. He was in my opinion ahead of his time with that rockstar status style and swag. He had the potential for soo much more to bad his crimes blemished his career.
@percyvaughan2 жыл бұрын
It is a good thing he didn't come around in these times. Carlos Monzon vs. Jake LaMotta would have been a classic since both were kindred spirits.
@bigrich09262 жыл бұрын
What a great insight into Carlos Monzón, Rich you really have a gift, thank you for making this
@RichtheFightHistorian2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@scotexscarrier84612 жыл бұрын
what a record this guy had almost 80 fights unbeaten just 3 defeats in 99 bouts....great stuff
@philobeddoe34952 жыл бұрын
87-3-9 is super impressive. Those old guys didn't mess around. Nobody fights that many fights anymore.
@OldSchoolStrength2 жыл бұрын
@@philobeddoe3495 Its impossible to fight 2 to 3 times a week now thats why.. Back in the day these guys were fighting 6 times a month. one ingredient no fighter has today.... BALLS !
@tonym9942 жыл бұрын
@@philobeddoe3495 name fighters today, make too much money for one fight, to go 99 times. big contracts ended fighters being prolific. Archie Moore, Chavez, Duran, they put food on the table for a good deal of their careers. piling up money meant piling up fights.
@ericktellez76322 жыл бұрын
@@philobeddoe3495 Chavez Sr 89 and 0
@philobeddoe34952 жыл бұрын
@@OldSchoolStrength They could fight once a week starting out and have 52 fights in a single year, haha. That's way too much, right, but they could pad up records pretty quickly at least their first year.
@manosparavida35512 жыл бұрын
A very no hold's barred documentary relaying what an incredible fighter Monzon was. But his ability to control his temper was fragile and apparent for all to see.
@tesstikles3225 Жыл бұрын
Greatest Latin fighter's of all time Monzon, Duran and Arguello.
@LEWiSG2 жыл бұрын
Wow that was better than I expected you went into a lot more detail than the 9-episode Netflix documentary!!! RIP Monzon
@synagogueofsteak50062 жыл бұрын
Monson was a legend. Anyone who underestimates him doesn’t know boxing history.
@jonathangriffiths61142 жыл бұрын
Monzon lol
@davidbrandel13112 жыл бұрын
The most effective champion in history. Didn’t lose his title FIVE times.
@queenslander9542 жыл бұрын
Yea mate , especially those ones that know his name
@Logan-01202 жыл бұрын
Great doc! Hard to feel sorry for Monzon though.
@RichtheFightHistorian2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. But yes, Monzon is certainly not a sympathetic figure outside the ring.
@timmy43122 жыл бұрын
It's a good thing, you shouldn't feel sympathy for someone who might kill you
@JoseRamirez-wj5eg2 жыл бұрын
"The best ones come from jail" what jewels!! Thank you Rich..as always an impeccable job..
@JoseRamirez-wj5eg2 жыл бұрын
@@robertprosser5023 thanks Robert..I didn't attribute the quote to Rich though..wonderful analogy regardless..
@RichtheFightHistorian2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Jose.
@RichtheFightHistorian2 жыл бұрын
Again, this was a quote from his promoter that was in numerous articles. I don't need you going up and down the comment section correcting people.
@JoseRamirez-wj5eg2 жыл бұрын
@@RichtheFightHistorian my pleasure..you're appreciated sir..strong retort to the journalism authority..loved it..
@SuperBart19702 жыл бұрын
Fantastic job to the production team behind this great video.
@stevekneeland23719 ай бұрын
Great doc! Back in the day I couldn't stand him as a fighter. He seemed to cross the line as far a cruelty in the ring. What's puzzling is that just as his life was extremely undisciplined outside the ring, he was extremely disciplined inside the ring. Used his reach better than any boxer I know of.
@soprano4ny2 жыл бұрын
Another Masterpiece! Another beautiful but tragic story of another great boxer and legend. Thank you! 🤩🐜
@RichtheFightHistorian2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much.
@danielchristie70092 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your work on these documentaries.. they are simply superb and much appreciated.
@RichtheFightHistorian2 жыл бұрын
So nice of you, Daniel, thanks.
@Bushcraft2422 жыл бұрын
1970 I was a welterweight boxer then moved up to middleweight boxing 🥊 Carlos monzon was my idle I trained with Spanish fighters they can hit hard 1980 I got into drinking gained weight
@VICKEY_DESIGN2 жыл бұрын
Hope you're okay now 💓??
@knowledgeberakah17282 жыл бұрын
Wow
@Ijustinsultedyou2 жыл бұрын
No you wasn’t
@knowledgeberakah17282 жыл бұрын
@@Ijustinsultedyou how you know?
@sandazehatesmondays2 жыл бұрын
@@Ijustinsultedyou 🤣🤣
@MB2.02 жыл бұрын
I love this channel. With a voice like that and editing/boxing knowledge like this, I wouldn't be surprised if showtime picked you up
@MrWoodMan232 жыл бұрын
This was an amazing documentary. I love learning about fighters like this.
@palmtrees832 жыл бұрын
Tbh there ain’t many fighters like this. Monzón is one of a kind.
@michaelwilks62682 жыл бұрын
Monzon was a product of his environment like Duran, Tyson and so many others in the fight game. And sometimes you can take the boy out of the hood, but it's hard sometimes to take the hood out of the boy. Boxing has always been a sport that has risen underprivileged youths from the turmoil and tumultuousness of their squalid rough and tumble early existence.To the lavish heights of fame and luxuriousness. Some guys can grow from their youthful experience and never forget and move on. But some guys like Monzon and a whole lot of others maintain their street mindset throughout their lives. And usually end up where he did (incarcerated) or deceased at and early age over some nonsense.
@chadtep75712 жыл бұрын
Monzon would have been a POS no matter the circumstances he was reared in. He wired different. One can be brought up in luxury and still be a horrible human being. Those folks just have ways to cover up their despicable behavior.
@mattm89322 жыл бұрын
He was a scum bag who could beat people up.
@michaelwilks62682 жыл бұрын
@@chadtep7571 You're totally right I wasn't at all implying that rich people are better or anything, or that growing up in the lap of luxury helps people to be more stable of temperament or more erudite. Because history has shown us that is unadulteratedly contrary to the truth. Our former president(Trump) was a prime example of that, the Menendez brothers were also a prime example of that as were Leopold and Leob and a host of others. I know better than that it's nature as well as nature that makes the man. The point that I was trying to make was that if you are not wired differently as you said that Monzon was. You would look around at your new surroundings and contemplate the arduous indefatigable effort it took you to get there and not want to revisit your squalid past. Like I said before you never forget where you come from, you help your old community to produce more like yourself. However when your old homeboys want you to go left towards danger and mayhem. That may cause your new life to topple before you in a heap of rubble you go in the opposite direction instead. Eric Hernandez is the poster boy for this theorem he had the golden goose in his hands and a prince's future awaiting him and he let the street within him and his demons let it all fly away.
@deebop49042 жыл бұрын
Manny has seen the roughest life this planet can dish out. He is going to be the president of the Phillipines very soon.
@azul22542 жыл бұрын
@@deebop4904 Do to his popularity status, not so much for his political views. They see him as god in the Philippines.
@TheGreatTraeX2 жыл бұрын
I have been searching for a good Monzon documentary. I appreciate the work and you did a great job💯
@RichtheFightHistorian2 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@KLIPAMSoulRadioStation2 жыл бұрын
...I visit Argentina often...Monzon was hardened by his poverty and determined man to escape sheer poverty...very tough guy.
@TENGU1272 жыл бұрын
Wooow, Kudos Rich, this is some of your best work yet...seriously, this is some HBO special shit. You out done yourself on this one Bro.🔥🔥🔥
@RichtheFightHistorian2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it, Tengui127. Thanks.
@brianchampion33372 жыл бұрын
I always liked Monzon, but never knew anything about his personal life until now.
@rowgun5212 Жыл бұрын
He lived the life of a true warrior where violence is second nature but what made him dangerous is he was unpredictable.
@ChristiaanHartNibbrig2 жыл бұрын
I've seen a lot of your videos, Rich. They're all very good-to-excellent. This one might be your best. Great job with the editing, especially with the music. I don't know musical terms, but when Monzon and his last opponent finished the last round, both raised their arms, and the music accompanied that perfectly. As for Monzon, what a story. We want boxers to be savages inside the ring and gentlemen outside it. Rarely works that way. A champion boxer must have testosterone levels unlike 99.9999% of the men on earth. Monzon was a pos, but a fascinating guy. Terrific job on your part. Thanks for posting.
@RichtheFightHistorian2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Christiaan. Like another poster said, sometimes we have to separate the artist's personal life from the craft.
@brucemedley6352 жыл бұрын
Brilliant documentary on the legendary Carlos monzon no1 middleweight period
@philalcoceli6328 Жыл бұрын
No mattter how savage the ghetto or how cruel the circumstances we grew up in, we always have a shred of free choice where we can stay as children and go into deeper darkness or choose to be an adult and rise to a better life inside and outside of us, even if that better life gets no recognition or applause ever. The applause and recognition for a better life comes from within not from the outside. Seeking applause, acceptance and recognition from the outside like we do in this "celebrity", spoiled-childish, hate-activist, anti-culture we're in now sends us all back to the ghetto regardless of income. That's our fight!! Remember Monzon and conquer the Fanatical-Self-Justifying-Monzon we ALL carry inside!!
@Johnnyo1300 Жыл бұрын
The fact that this man came back to his neighborhood with toys for the children that’s all I need to know broken is broken but you never forget where you came from
@jdiprizito2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for one on Monzon
@aiyahuntacheimumbi236 Жыл бұрын
I believe that he didn't intend for her to fall and die but it's still unintentional murder. Coming from an Indigenous family I know 1st hand that Indians and alcohol should never mix and I never touch a drop. This is a heart breaking story that sounds like a regular day for many Indigenous people suffering the loss of land, identity and meaning under the multi generational trauma, racism, self hatred, and violent poverty brought to us by colonization. I feel for his story as it hits very close to home for me and my own family, but at the end of the day we're responsible for our own actions and have to decide to do better when we look in the mirror. I know how aggressive and violent I can be. So I put it all into my focus for training and the ring, and I've made damn sure never to put my hands in anger on any woman, child, or any other vulnerable helpless person. I do my best never to even speak in anger unless it's to build a fight or me and my loved ones are being threatened. I don't always succeed but how you speak to people becomes a snowball effect as mutual respect breaks down in your relationships when you stop trying to do better. If you read this Yakoke. Thank you and be the change.
@darkplayer5535 Жыл бұрын
Monzón was a mestizo half indian and half spanish but im curious why Indian blood and drinking alcholol dont mix.
@aiyahuntacheimumbi236 Жыл бұрын
@@darkplayer5535 Many or most lack the enzymes and metabolisms to safely handle alcohol or clear it from our blood. It affects us very differently than Europeans. Our bodies even tend to process sugars very differently, which is why we're so prone to obesity and diabetes with modern western diets and that also strengthens the effects of alcohol in our bodies.
@darkplayer5535 Жыл бұрын
@@aiyahuntacheimumbi236 Dang even for a half spanish like Monzon he still couldnt deal with the side effects alcholol brings...
@aiyahuntacheimumbi236 Жыл бұрын
@@darkplayer5535 Yes but Half Spanish is still Indigenous. Why do you keep stressing that point? Mixed Black people are still considered Black.
@darkplayer5535 Жыл бұрын
@@aiyahuntacheimumbi236 Sorry about that sir..
@hoover25012 жыл бұрын
Monzon was a machine. He's not canelo Alvarez out in the 14th round. So too would triple g if they still had 15 round fights. I guess what made him great was that he was genuinely a violent person who not only did it for the money but also did it for nothing
@mider-spanman55772 жыл бұрын
One of the middleweight division's best! MONZOOON! Wish I could have seen Monzon vs Hagler, Monzon vs Duran, and Monzon vs Robinson. Hearns vs Monzon would have been sweet!
@julio.n33902 жыл бұрын
Para mi ? Monzón no le hubiera ganado a esos campeones ?? Lamentable pero lo veo asi ! Y soy de Santa Fe Argentina
@mider-spanman55772 жыл бұрын
@@julio.n3390 Well he sure did beat Emile Griffith and Jose 'mantequilla' Napoles. I think he would have had a fair shot of beating any and all of them. Robinson and Hagler would have given him the most trouble and Hearns there have been a great opponent since they both had those long arms.
@blackwidowsm Жыл бұрын
I would have wagered Monzon over every middle weight in 70s he second only behind ray Robinson and willy pep as a fighter. He fought best of best in middleweight during his time. Undefeated in his last 79 fights. Going out winning and only fighter not named Marciano not to lose his title in ring. He was amazing as a fighter outside of ring someone you would want to avoid. You know that meme he took that personally, only Carlos did and that’s something you never wanted to see. Carlos Monzon and Salvatore Sanchez were my two favorite boxers of the 70s. Imagine thier ghosts would have interesting stories to tell. 🍷
@jonathandewberry2892 жыл бұрын
His wife got knocked down and didn't get back up. He got knocked down by a car and didn't get back up. Live by the sword and die by the sword. No doubt, one of the greatest Middleweight Champions of all-time.
@arjunakorale81032 жыл бұрын
YES, in Sinhalese Buddhist philosophy we call it Karma, my friend.
@mider-spanman55772 жыл бұрын
^In Buddhism period, and Hinduism as well.
@jonathandewberry2892 жыл бұрын
@@mider-spanman5577 really? the entire internet as well. the problem is that nobody seems to know what 'Karma' really is and especially 'internet buddhists' who think it means 'similar revenge'.
@brodywhite1753 Жыл бұрын
Jonathan just pray your misdeeds don't come round full circle
@jonathandewberry289 Жыл бұрын
@@brodywhite1753 Of course they will and so will yours and everyone else's on Judgement Day.
@almodovar2512 жыл бұрын
Great documentary of a Middleweight King named Carlos Monzón! His drinking and rage got the best of him. Thanks for the documentary!!
@RichtheFightHistorian2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, Almodovar.
@davidbrandel41282 жыл бұрын
Greatest boxer who ever stepped into a ring.
@stipeblazevictiposportivo Жыл бұрын
I agree.
@boomersD9CAT2 жыл бұрын
Great documentary Rich! I remember watching Monzon fight once on Wide World of Sports, but had no idea about his background or what became of him.Gripping story about an athlete with so much potential who let his demons get the best of him.👏🙏🥊
@RichtheFightHistorian2 жыл бұрын
Pretty much. Thanks for watching.
@paulbroderick42172 жыл бұрын
Wow Rich that was great.Some fighters live are incredible.Thanks.Cant wait for the next one.
@RichtheFightHistorian2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support, Paul.
@johnjuarez80052 жыл бұрын
The greatest channel on making boxing Docs. Period!
@RichtheFightHistorian2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, John.
@uncjim2 жыл бұрын
Monzon reminded me of Michael Spinks in that they were both awkward and wooden in style. At the time they were fighting I thought either could be taken. Both turned out to be great (Michael as a light heavy) champions. Their skill, power and determination in my mind puts them amongst the elites. Thanks for another great doc Rich.
@arjunakorale81032 жыл бұрын
I like your comparison of Monzon to Spinks, both being v awkward & ‘wooden in style’, and YES I have to agree with you. I never really thought of it that way, but, you know, sometimes being awkward & wooden gets the job done. I’ve seen the remaining footage of his fights & researched the views of the most knowledgable in the fight game (trainers as well as boxers) & am confident that he would have beaten Sugar Ray & Marvelous on points...a winner in boxing, a loser in life.
@RichtheFightHistorian2 жыл бұрын
It is a good comparison...Spinks was a lighter on his feet but they both had the same gangly mechanics that disguised that big right cross.
@arjunakorale81032 жыл бұрын
Yes, Spinks was more light on his feet & had faster foot movement. However, Monzon had a better chin, plus he was a supremely mentally tough bastard fighter in the ring & never froze or was scared of anybody.
@lu77xiaojun372 жыл бұрын
The thing about Monzon's awkward style is that it kinda puts you to sleep watching his fights, then you look up and the other guy is lying flat on his ass or hanging on a ring rope in loopy land. Best middleweight ever.
@Tolongalofa2 жыл бұрын
Agreed this is one awesome doco on one of the greatest fighters..well done and thank you👍🏽
@RichtheFightHistorian2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Trevor.
@chriso15852 жыл бұрын
Awesome finally a doc on monzon that is in English, thanks
@gabhandebrun1871 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this a good insight into the crazy life of monson! 👍
@stephendent43262 жыл бұрын
Tells you everything you need to know about Monzon very good documentary 👍🤛
@stevebrindle17242 жыл бұрын
Monzon along with Ken Buchanan was one of my favourite boxers back in the day. I really enjoyed this documentary and have subscribed to your channel now and watched more of your podcasts, right up there with Rummys Corner! Thanks, Rich
@RichtheFightHistorian2 жыл бұрын
Cool, thanks!
@blite132 жыл бұрын
funny, I was just thinking to myself, that I bet Duran took a few ques from Monzon in and out of the ring......but I am guessing. And Duran fought like Monzon vs Buchanan, basically ran him into submission and causing Buchanan into faking a low blow to try and win by DQ.
@stevebrindle17242 жыл бұрын
@@blite13 It was a low blow in my opinion
@blite132 жыл бұрын
@@stevebrindle1724 It was low and it was caused by the ref grabbing Duran as he threw the punch. It wasn't a hard punch and we have all seen other fighters with harder shots to the groin, still able to fight after a quick pause. He had the minute of the end of the round to get it together, but he continued to fake it so the ref stopped it. All he had to do is tell the ref he was good to go. Buchanan took it as an opportunity to get the decision on a DQ. He thought wrong. There was no way Ken was getting the decision and he knew it.
@nickharmer3049 Жыл бұрын
That was so good, I had to watch it again .! Bless up bro 👊
@RichtheFightHistorian Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Nick
@mider-spanman55772 жыл бұрын
I must say, hat a great way to start the video! So epic and you were made to do this! I had to come back to this.
@RichtheFightHistorian2 жыл бұрын
Thanks again, Mider-Span Man.
@fungus_am0nguz6442 жыл бұрын
Tremendous documentary, this is for real the best doc ive seen about Monzon. Great job my friend, keep em coming. What a character Escopeta was, Jesus Christ lol, is almost like he represented the best (that ending and message with his son) and worst (the murder of his wife, the violence) of humans. Complex creatures we are.
@JRA732 жыл бұрын
Love the music in his second fight against Valdes?? Tough man and one determined fighter!!!
@joseguillen90352 жыл бұрын
He likes fight womens😆😆😆
@nagabilly2 жыл бұрын
This channel is incredible. Please continue the work bro
@RichtheFightHistorian2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@MisterGoblin652 жыл бұрын
Certainly one of your best...thank you
@RichtheFightHistorian2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@sumboy61832 жыл бұрын
2 minutes in on my first vid on this channel and im subbed. Can tell its gonna be a good 1
@OldSchoolStrength2 жыл бұрын
Tony Ayala Jr Documentary needs to be made!
@miahsaint-georges2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Rich for yet another excellent documentary!
@RichtheFightHistorian2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@matthewnuhfer68512 жыл бұрын
Wow. Another GREAT video. Thank you and please keep up the great work sir!
@RichtheFightHistorian2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@hughmcaleer99512 жыл бұрын
Have seen this guy fight i douht that anyone in middleweight history could have beat this guy,he was a machine who just love it.
@arjunakorale81032 жыл бұрын
Agree - I have Monzon as Number 1, Marvelous Marvin Hagler at 2 and Sugar Ray Robinson at 3. Robinson kept winning & losing the world middleweight title (to guys like Fulmer & Basilio). I seriously can’t envision Monzon ever losing to those guys. Monzon only had to win the world title once & then held it over most of the 1970s. Hagler was the master at cutting down tall middleweight boxers (e.g. Hearns, Obelmejias, Lee, Watts, Monroe, Seales etc) but Monzon would be the exception to that rule. Carlos with his granite chin, immense physical strength, toughness, awkwardness & long range style would not have lost to the Marvelous One. MONZON IS THE ONE TALL MIDDLEWEIGHT THAT MARVIN WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO CUT DOWN.
@Fulfillyourfreedom2 жыл бұрын
He’s the goat just because of that Bruce lee haircut yo... great post as always thank you 🙏🏾
@RichtheFightHistorian2 жыл бұрын
haha, yeah, definitely got that 1970s Bruce Lee cut going on.
@uncletony62102 жыл бұрын
Looked a lot like "the night stalker" Richard Ramirez.
@ralphjenkins63922 жыл бұрын
@@uncletony6210 Yo that's a crazy comparison cause Monzoon was wild outside the ring and they do look alike, but he wasn't quite as crazy as Ramirez. Glad that guy is no longer with us.
@tomquinn6072 жыл бұрын
I saw Rodrigo Valdez fight at the old garden. Could not imagine how anyone could touch him he was so smooth defensively.
@nickharmer30492 жыл бұрын
That was absolutely brilliant. Loved it.! An upload to be proud of.! Props to you. Bless up bro 👊
@RichtheFightHistorian2 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks, Nick.
@Longrunthefox2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic watch... Monzon and Hagler would have been some fight...
@brsfan662 жыл бұрын
The way he entered life was not pleasant and the way he left life wasn't pleasant either but boy did he have some pleasure in between life and death. Great at what he did but not as he lived.
@lionking37.2 жыл бұрын
Excellent documentary, I've been wanting to learn more about Monzon but have struggled to find anything on here. Good job mate 👍🏻
@RichtheFightHistorian2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was help, Curly. Thanks.
@erodriguez49732 жыл бұрын
You truly are the best out here. Thank you for your hard work and diligence