Carlton Carrington over Reed Sheppard as a PG? Who is on the Rise?

NBA Draft Analysts, Leif Thulin and James Barlowe break down the nuances of the games of Isaiah Collier, Carlton (Bub) Carrington, Jaylon Tyson, Isaiah Crawford, AJ Johnson and Enrique Freeman who they deem to be rising up draft boards. Leif and James discuss why its possible Carrington is a better point guard than Reed Sheppard despite being 10-15 spots lower in mock drafts.
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NBA Draft analyst Rafael Barlowe from NBA Draft Junkies and current author of the NBA Big Board newsletter is joined by Richard Stayman (@MavsDraft), Sam Ferris (NBA Draft Dummies), and Leif Thulin to breakdown the NBA Draft. Rafael & Team gives passionate NBA Draft fans a deep look into the NBA Draft with great guests, Mock Draft, player rankings, and of course BIG BOARDs. Part of the Locked On Podcast Network.
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[@bronxroots6668]

I’m praying that my NYK’s get the chance to draft Jaylon Tyson. He plays either Wing position, and we are in need of Wings.

[@nsusaint]

I really want the Magic to get Bub Carrington. What do you guys think of the fit?

[@Fgh-ng3qu]

The jist got Anthony Black last year and they have alot of giard on the roster dont know about this

[@EyeinteeJay]

Devin Carter is the name to watch. He’ll go as high as 6 to the Hornets or 8 to then Spurs. Book it.

[@brandonkorte6446]

I think the spurs would look at Carrington at 8 looking at past picks like primo

[@Clickgoesthebrick2558]

what podcast?

[@CarloBarlo69]

As good as Rob Dillingham, Reed Sheppard, and Jared McCain are, they’re just so small that they’re going to be liabilities defensively. It makes it really hard to justify drafting them as high as they are mocked on boards

[@stilldre247]

All 3 of these guys have the potential to compete at the level of or better than Fred VanVleet (6’1). Worst case you get Payton Pritchard. I think these guys will be fine

[@CarloBarlo69]

@@stilldre247 i’ve seen a lot of people throw the “worst case you get Pritchard” narrative around, but the truth is Pritchard was a significantly better ball handler, and a very experienced creator, even when he was leading his team in college at Oregon. And Pritchard, as amazing as he is now 6 years later, he’s STILL barely getting any minutes on a winning team because he’s too small and a defensive liability. For a potential top three pick like Reed Sheppard, It’s really risky. Especially in today’s NBA where defense & size is everything.

[@Abdul95Rachman]

Sheppard & McCain are taller than Maxey (& still growing). Maybe it's still difficult to defend forwards, but they are good defenders. BTW, they can dunk.

[@bkelly625]

@@stilldre247​⁠​⁠ Fred VanVleet is an incredible defender… Maybe Reed can come close to that but it won’t happen for Dilly and McCain which is why they will probably go lower than Reed

[@smoothhoops3739]

Small guys can't gaurd is just a lazy take.

[@astrahl]

Do people make the Ant comparison for Collier? I feel like theirs enough similarities there to make him a lottery pick. Ant in college averaged only 29% from 3 compared to 34 for collier. Similar body type. Defensive upside, number one scoring option upside. He’s got the tools

[@norrinradd542]

I think James helped put the word out to put Isaiah Crawford on the map...

[@smoothhoops3739]

He definitely put me on

[@smoothhoops3739]

I think Leif is under rating Reed as a creator. He simply wasn't asked to take 10 dribbles and run the offense because of his stacked roster. But whenever he did go off the dribble he still had great efficiency. Not to mention his 2/1 Assist to turn over ratio

[@bradymoon1889]

Ajay Mitchell?

[@Fgh-ng3qu]

Collier is better than Castle at least offensively, its a shame he is so underated this dude is actually elite and see him being one of the best if not the best guard in this draft

[@7thavewellnessblog]

#3?

[@randeepclair9283]

Reed Sheppard can play pg. It’s like a Jamal Murray situation with Tyler Ulis when he was at Kentucky

[@cheeto8960]

Jamal is still more of score 1st guard and the passing is mid

[@smoothhoops3739]

There are so many bad/underwhelming prospects getting mocked ahead of Bub Carrington lmao. I'm not sure what people are watching

[@7thavewellnessblog]

Jazz trading up?

[@7thavewellnessblog]

Knect or Sheppard would look in Utah

[@jackieellis8267]

Thulin is high on Knecht, Scheirman and now Carrington while belittling size, defense and shot opportunities of Sheppard and dismisses his record setting analytics, BBIQ and intangibles as a true freshman not considering his other attributes that will most likely improve with properly acquired training and coaching staff. Not saying he's going to be a super star but is as worthy of a high draft prospect as many others. Would love to have a hidden camera in his little Jazz studio if Reed would get selected by Utah...which is a possibility.. his facial expressions and choice of words would be comical and bittersweet😆😅

[@MorseCodeMC]

I pray Miami takes Collier so we (Toronto) can get Edey

[@kai1x_]

Speak for yourself lol no thank u.

[@Mumbo.jumbo.]

No thanks lol

[@bkelly625]

Castle is so much more of a functional NBA athlete than Isaiah Collier it’s more than just size. And I know this might sound crazy to ppl who overvalue combine measurements and high flyers but he’s also a better athlete for the NBA than Andre Jackson Jr. just so much smoother and obviously more skilled…. he reminds me of young Jimmy Butler

[@norrinradd542]

what's your mock looking like these days... since we watch many of the same youtube programs including this channel I was wondering if it changed since the last time...

[@bkelly625]

@@norrinradd542 Haven’t done a mock draft this week but here is my Big Board top 30 1. Alex Sarr-1a 2. Stephon Castle-1a 3. Zaccharie Risacher-1b 4. Cody Williams-1b 5. Dalton Knecht-1b 6. Ron Holland-1b 7. Reed Sheppard-1b 8. Nikola Topić-1c 🏥 9. Matas Buzelis-1c 10. Tidjane Salaun-1c 11. Donovan Clingan-1c 12. Rob Dillingham-1c 13. Devin Carter-1c 14. Kel’el Ware-1c 15. DaRon Holmes II-1c 16. Terrence Shannon Jr.-1c 17. Isaiah Collier-1c 18. Jared McCain-1c 19. Carlton Carrington-1d 20. Ryan Dunn-1d 21. Yves Missi-1d 22. Tristan Da Silva-1d 23. Ja’Kobe Walter-1d 24. Tyler Smith-1d 25. Zach Edey-1d 26. Kyle Filipowski-1d 27. Kyshawn George-1d 28. Jaylon Tyson-1d 29. Johnny Furphy-1d 30. Pacome Dadiet-1d

[@cheeto8960]

Collier doesn't defend, that makes me a non believer

[@robitaillecopeland1996]

what boards are you guys talking about? Fellow podcasters? You aren't privy to team's boards. For all you know all the guys that were thought of as the top guys before the season (Holland, Williams, Collier) are still and always have been at the top of boards that matter. You can't rise if you were never low to begin with. These narratives are all in your heads lol. It's your fault for ever having these guys low

[@Clickgoesthebrick2558]

they know people who have access to boards, its part of a scouts job to know the opinions of other teams. they see leaks. dont critize people on things you dont know anything about

[@Clickgoesthebrick2558]

sorry that was harsh

[@robitaillecopeland1996]

@@Clickgoesthebrick2558 stop. They know no more than you or I lmao. Don't be a pathetic apologist

[@robitaillecopeland1996]

@@Clickgoesthebrick2558 they're not "scouts" they're podcasters and their sources are other podcasters who themselves have no sources and their "sources" are guys like Vecenie and Givony who have no access either. Do you honestly believe a team is leaking information to scouts so it can filter down to podcasters? c'mon bro

[@Clickgoesthebrick2558]

@@robitaillecopeland1996 its their job, they are inherently going to know more

[@Collindunks]

Bub Carrington propoganda I’m all for it

[@lee1k571]

He’s a stud

[@brandonkorte6446]

I'm hoping the spurs take a shot at him at 8