Mobius 3! The Truth & Nothing But The Truth!

[@francishunt8969]

I beg to differ. 1. First of all Mobius was made with the mindset of having a Kenyan car made for kenyan conditions with these core functions in mind: A. Functionality B. Durability C. Serviceability D. Longevity E. Reliability If you look at the way mobius is made its height and the shocks are configured to that of Kenyan roads. Its basically an all terrain car. When we import used cars those cars are made to the conditions of roads from where they originated from. mind you kenyans use their cars for all manner of things, for carrying goods and people and in some cases on rough roads when going to shaggs, these activities put alot of wear and tear on the car. In foreign countries their cars are made to carry fewer passengers mainly two or for a family of four and less heavy goods and considering they have better roads most tarmack roads even in the country side ( their shaggs) . 2. Is the car worth 3.9m. What you could have done is compare the cost of a used imported SUV to that of a new mobius. Assuming the costs are the same, i would definatley say the cost of a mobius is worth it. Why? First of all durability. If mobius is made for Kenyan roads conditions and usage , then that means it has a longer shelf life than that of an imported car for reasons i have explained above. secondly, when you buy a used car the life of the car is shorter because you are getting a used car which has already gone through its best years notably the first five years of a car, from then on , frequent breakage, parts change and servicing and maintainance is required. This is an extra cost to the end user.. These cars have an average 100,000 miles already logged in, while a new mobius car, you are buying a car with zero or almost zero mileage and you get to experience its best years moving forward. 3. parts and services. Now this is one of the most important aspects to consider when buying a car. Mobius is made with the idea that if it brakes down anywhere in the country, the parts are easily available from any shop or even jua kali mechanic in any part of Kenya. Now if i have a foreign used car and my car breaks down what is the guarantee that i will get the part the same day, or from any part of the country. How many dealerships can you find of foreign made cars sprawled around the country. I will have to go to the volkswagen dealership in nairobi just to get the part or the part may not be available and they have to import it meaning adding extra costs to my pocket and time wasted waiting for the part weeks or months. But for mobius all i have to do is go to the next jua kali shop in any town and either get the part or get the car fixed because the car was made with serviceability anywhere in the country in mind .In the long term the mobius becomes more economical in parts and services. Go for it Kenyans. Build Kenya. 4. Kenyan made (assembly). As long as the car is assembled in Kenya it has a kenyan aspect to it. It was put together using Kenyan manpower, kenyan hands assembled the car it is mdae in Kenya, unless the car was made in china and shipped into Kenya. We have had a history of assembling cars in Kenya be it isuzu, simba etc but they are considered kenyan made because they were assembled in Kenya. Boeing aircraft of America is actually considered an assembler of planes because they import most of their parts from overseas and they are then put together (assembled) at the boeing plant in seattle. But its considered American made. Therefore , As long as the car is assembled in Kenya, i consider that Kenyan made. Just like we import cotton from tanzania and uganda take it to the textile mills in Kenya to turn it into clothes. Do we then say the clothes are not Kenyan made because we got the raw materials from TZ and UG. 5. For us to feel its a car that's truly Kenyan, the most important aspect to me are the sourcing of parts or raw materials. Take 100% of the car. What percentage of the car is made using kenyan parts made in kenya. Like the tyres, shocks, windhshilelds, springs, steel, iron, aluminium, seats, leather basically the parts that go into making the car. if we can then start specific industries making all these parts and accessories then "made In Kenya" will take its true meaning. Mobius has its goal of sourcing at least 80% of the parts and raw materials sourced from Kenya . But currently we do not have those industries but a few like springs and shocks . so we should support them, after all making a car is very complex and capital intensive and it has its risks. It also requires the skills sets in mass to go into mass production but also one has to have the facilities to produce enmass which requires huge investment in capital. So kudos to joel for having come up with the idea and concept where no local kenyan or foreign investor would dare. But joel has shown the road map and as we continue on this path we gain experience, skills transfer, save on foreign exchange as we import less cars, create local jobs in manufacturing/assembling, the gains are much much more. After all look at the first car Henry ford built and look at where ford is today? So is the price worth it? Absolutely, you have to look at the greater or bigger picture. Is the car Kenyan Made? Absolutely it was assembled in Kenya using Kenyan labor. we have to start from somewhere. As long as the car meets the core criterias of : Functionality, Durability, Serviceability ,Longevity, Reliability and assembled in Kenya with a price point similar to an imported used car, all other aspects like where the company was incoporated, or a photo copy of a chinese car is irrelevant. Give me a mobius 3 any day than a used imported car. Infact i like mobius one the so called ugly car for reasons i have posted below. read my post.

[@mauriceotieno556]

My thoughts exactly. This review is very biased in a not very subtle way. No one buys a Bugatti because it's french or the owners are french or it was assembled in France. The name Bugatti isn't even french. People buy cars because of their needs. This review is light on the actual functionality of any Mobius car let alone Mobius 3. Alot of time n research went into the authenticity of its claim of Kenyan heritage nothing wrong in that but I doubt anyone would be put off by that fact alone. It's 2021 a french car might have an Italian name financial backing from canada assembled in Asia have it's engine made in Germany n the rest of the body in satafrika Brazil n India.

[@tripletalcantara6531]

Huyu ni jamaa wa marketing wa mobius

[@mauriceotieno556]

If you pardon I'll use an analogy. This review is like an author writing about the Mobius family. Mobius has three kids Mobius 1,2 n 3. He says very little about what the Mobius did for a living or how they got along with the rest of the community instead he tells us how they have dual citizenship. Mobius 1 was an ugly child that was trolled n mocked (mtu wa mayai made by juakali artisans) little is said about the second child. But when we get to the third child he mwagas all the 'tea' like the third child is suspected to be a basturd or adopted or gotten out of wedlock. Then the whole book concentrates about the parentage n DNA of this child. The child could have been a doctor brought electricity helped people but no it doesn't matter since he doesn't have their DNA. In conclusion the Mobius family are frauds because they've never come clean about the DNA of their third child or which country they truly call home or belong to.

[@nkanyamuriuki6409]

@@mauriceotieno556 I agree, beautiful analogy!

[@edwinkaranja4323]

"Other aspects like where the company was incoporated, or a photo copy of a chinese car is irrelevant." I want to believe this is your personal opinion on irrelevance, same thing the content creator said. Mind you if you are keen enough in listening he is looking at what Mobius has presented to the Kenyan market from a buyer's perspective, not a user. Your cotton example for the vehicle, it would be sourcing the metal, rubber, plastics, etc. then making the car. If they simply said assembled in/for Kenya would there be any queries on vehicles' origin?

[@agentbro7064]

My thoughts: Kenyan/Chinese/British.....does not really matter, what matters is whether the car is reliable, can tackle the terrain, affordable running costs , good handling, comfort and safety features. The price tag may be beyond what most Kenyans can afford to spend but it seems fairly priced for a brand new SUV. Looking forward to a drive test review.

[@goodeverydaymusic.8401]

I see some guys came out gun blazing, but this goes to speak a lot on the nature of our Kenyan corporate environment. Lot's of misinformation, under information, undercutting etc. They are used to, "Kenyans tutawapelekea anything na wabuy." (Chinese); The vehicle might be decent in itself, but the company should do the consumers due diligence. Tusibebane. Nice Information guys.

[@davzbalian295]

I don't know but getting a 2021 zero mileage car,with 214hp from a 2.0L non turbo engine is impressive compared to 2021 honda crv with 190hp turbo engines,nissan xtrail 142hp which is massively underpowered for a 2.0L engine and when we talk of the imports we have in kenya they are 2010 to 2016 models with high milages being sold at ksh. 2.5 mil n above.Plus the car is made for african Terrain.so yeah keep on buying massively underpowered cars with high mileages for insane prices. I guess sometimes you get used to awful products for so long that when finally something good comes along you don't even realize it. The car is good compared to what we are being offered. N most car companies usually borrow technologies when they begin atleast to keep up with the market so i see no issue here.

[@MrCAHRLIE22]

My thoughts exactly, considering its a new vehicle for 4 million ksh i dont think its too bad, not to mention its a very good looking vehicle and fit for the terrain

[@arnoldmaina]

100% agree - in fact i’d have loved to hear of tangible examples that are comparable to the Mobius 3 and are more value for money.

[@mwendaevans1640]

4 million for a car that has not been used is quite a bargain. Kenyans are used to mitumba cars in form of overpriced Toyotas and Subaru's.

[@amoskasera7642]

Good point

[@DjFutureBeats]

That's True, we are used to mitumba Hadi a good deal ikikam we don't see

[@dapi90]

This guy deserves a million subs. I've always looked for a sober car reviewer in Kenya, and we finally got one.

[@CARNVERSATIONS]

Thank you for you overwhelming support

[@musamutetwi1948]

Yes, this could be Kenya's Mat Watson of carwow. Bt hio chupa ilikua na maji kweli? Jicho ni nyanya....haha

[@dapi90]

@@musamutetwi1948 no, this is Kenya's Eric Wokabi of Carnversations.😁 Let us not compare people, but I get your point. Eric's doing a good job.

[@musamutetwi1948]

@@dapi90 Hehe. Hapo sawa

[@markbosire2445]

My greatest take from this channel is the 'Kenyanization' of car reviews.Simple, practical and engaging.

[@francishunt8969]

Just to conclude, the fact that there are many posts interrogating the car from its origin, assembly, Kenyan made, rebadge etc is a healthy engagement and it shows the enthusiasm Kenyans have for cars and in the end am sure Mobius or any other car maker willing to set up car manufacturing in Kenya will look at this post and take issues raised into consideration. As we have just started to crawl before we can walk in this new field of car manufacturing.

[@susanmwango6642]

The 4th question really sums up this video, "tunabebwa ufala ama?"

[@Labanmwir]

Ik was eagerly waiting for your review cz it's always honest and evidence based. I con't have thought it was a re-badge, but my gut feeling was just right that something is wrong about the SUV. Cheers Buddy.

[@corvusglaive5769]

Personally, I think it is a good initiative and movement in the right direction. I have visited their assembly site and I know young mechanical engineers who have gotten employment as a result of these cars. Anyone who knows about industrial production will understand that rebadging is something that is very common. As time goes on and as their cars become more popular we will see them start producing more of their own productions and equipment. Plus find me any other zero mileage 2021 SUV in Kenya with a price tag of less than 5 million. If we decide to criticize, there is certainly alot to criticize about Mobius and if we decide to applaud there is also plenty. But I also understand you have to put food on the table, and that is why I have subscribed to your channel. Because it is about supporting each other and building one another as a country. Eager for your next video.

[@kennethitonga7068]

Only Mahindra Scorpio from India.

[@felixdatche9278]

You are intelligent. And very well informed. I was ashamed of the mockery by the host of the video!!

[@leekhus3032]

Toyota Rush 2020 cost 3.4M

[@TheTororist]

the issue is their dishonest marketing. I personally have no issue with rebadging. it this bs narrative they are trying to push preying on patriotism

[@emmanuelobaraochango7694]

I agree 100% .Especially if it's a start-up company. Car manufacturing is expensive and they have to keep company running.And they cannot go public and say the cars they're selling are re-badged, actually it doesn't make sense.

[@donvicky2471]

I saw this vehicle drive by somewhere in kiambu road and wow! It's a beautifully wonderful spectacle.

[@carolisrael3934]

Juzi I saw one here in kilifi, I just had to fall in love.

[@Kimsay929]

Ni kama uyu mtu apa ako na ka against

[@bobkaloki]

Not only is it expensive to start a new car company independently, its next to impossible. Only a few like Tesla have managed to do that in the last 20yrs & it only made it because of government kickbacks, selling carbon credits to companies like FCA (now Stellantis) & selling tech/infrastructure like charging ports. There is no shame in badge engineering.

[@HLMM_KE]

That's true but don't pass it to customers as 'Kenyan made' Just come clean and people will have confidence in the product. Right now, Mobius will be viewed as sneaky

[@bobkaloki]

@@HLMM_KE You are right. We can't force patriotism in some things.

[@HLMM_KE]

@@bobkaloki Sure, will I be patriotic or I will weigh my options and the economics of it? The latter will prevail

[@francishunt8969]

Tell them. Please read my post above

[@justusgwaromagangi7373]

Kenyan phobia on china tech ! beatiful , cheap but lasts a day. Wait , compared with new cars it is not cheap

[@nancynganga7314]

I think the early versions of the mobius are very beautiful. As they say, on a matter of taste there is no disputing. It remains my ambition to own a mobius 2. I appreciate the info.

[@CARNVERSATIONS]

Thank you, the Mobius 2 second gen looked better and we thought it would make a better platform for a future Kenyan car

[@nancysilong8689]

I'm right with you! Namesake!

[@josephwanjiku6853]

​@@CARNVERSATIONS I really like the Mobius 1

[@arnoldmaina]

Thanks for the review, very informative. BUT: things are always not that black & white. Rebadging is common in the auto manufacturing industry. When Toyota did it (they recently rebadged a Maruti Suzuki into a Toyota Starlet/Glanza), they didn't hype it in their marketing either. It wasn't even in the fine print. Why? Because consumers get the wrong perception, they’ll think it's insincere. Same reason why Mobius hasn't mentioned it. The benefits of rebadging are it saves costs (to get you an affordable car), it reduces lead time (R&D is a long process) and it helps you start from somewhere. Here’s the real beauty: that car is the closest modern vehicle we have to a Made in Kenya car. If it was efficient to do complete manufacturing in Kenya I’m certain that they would. But the constraints of doing so are limiting; and they (Mobius) are starting from somewhere too.

[@nelson8434]

I feel this video is underwhelming na huyu reviewer ndio anatubeba ujinga, for somebody who gets inspiration from the old top gear, there is a better way he could have addressed these issues, detailing why they are common practice and why the company could have opted to take that route. With this review, many might think its a bad thing when it really isn't, given the operational constraints the company faces

[@CARNVERSATIONS]

You are right, that is why in the video i said mobius should have come out and be open about it, selling us a Chinese dream in a Kenya look to me doesn't sit well, regardless it is a standard practice allover the world

[@arnoldmaina]

@@CARNVERSATIONS Yup, I know what you mean and I understand the concern you were bringing out; which is an important. Perhaps you can do a balanced hands on review (pros & cons etc) once the car is on the road and available. I’d love to see one. All in all, thanks for the work your putting into these videos. Your channel is quickly becoming my go-to channel for all things cars from a Kenyan perspective!

[@stnlmbote2]

@@CARNVERSATIONS you are talking about rebadging Baic into this mobius but I guess you have not driven either of the two and if that is the case you are wrong

[@davidrussells2006]

I really hope that by the by, Mobius will outgrow reliance on outsiders, improve the builds by ourselves to an extent we don't need to buy anything like Suzuki is doing in India. Now Maruti is almost entirely an Indian affair

[@soundsforthemindamdsoul.7464]

Thank you for been honest and not buying into the current trend of giving products great reviews for kickbacks. keep on with the transparency.

[@CARNVERSATIONS]

Thank you for the support, you the reason we make this videos

[@soundsforthemindamdsoul.7464]

@@CARNVERSATIONS kindly do an informative piece on SF5 and SG5, including info on turbo charged ones and the STI versions. I want to know if I should feed into the hype and get one.

[@samwelmeja9903]

We are still waiting for an indepth review of the Mobius 3, eagerly since last Friday on 10th... I enjoy your reviews and the good work you're doing.

[@jimmymwangi4420]

Great content. Love it. Allow me to say this though. Apple being manufactured in China doesn’t make the brand any less American. Some Landrovers are powered by Ford Engines. Nike is manufactured mostly outside of US but very American as a brand and product. Palm oil is imported to Kenya to make the “Local” cooking oil that you buy in supermarkets. Nobody questions them. Massive industries are built on Strategic partnerships that leverage on YEARS of RND value. It’s impossible to beat China’s manufacturing capacity overnight. It’s more of a business model discussion. At this stage of growth, development and distribution is the model. Manufacturing can be outsourced. Especially for Africa. The brand is Kenyan. Although I do agree that the narrative they’ve put out may be misleading. However we need to be a bit open minded. Cheers though. As always great content 👍🏽👍🏽

[@samueln3744]

Your argument is very sound...I like...

[@samueln3744]

Perhaps the other think the Govt. can do is a bit of support...we've been pumping billions to KQ yet they keep posting losses year in year out...more Govt. support to Mobius to transfer the manufacturing bit from China to Kenya, one step at a time, bit by bit and transfer the jobs and technical know how to our citizens locally...it will build in more to the Big 4 and Vision 2030...finally, having the car fully produced in Kenya by 2030...that's more jobs and perhaps another Car model will be birthed as a result...

[@brianmutiso1003]

Apple is designed in the US and assembled in China, Mobius3 is designed in China, made in china, and likely assembled in china, iphones, ipads, iMacs and macs are American technology but Mobius 3 is a chinese technology, that's the difference

[@brianmutiso1003]

China is just in possession of cheap labor, Japan has lots of automotive manufacturing facilities even edging China

[@corvusglaive5769]

@@brianmutiso1003 so according to you it would be better for Mobius to not attempt anything at all?

[@mixzangu]

The only honest KZbin channel, Asante for staying true. Keep safe!

[@CARNVERSATIONS]

Thank you 😊

[@sirben7]

I can't believe that i am only finding out about this channel now. The orator is informative and articulate. Thanks.

[@ezraondaratv]

Importing parts and assembling in Nairobi doesn't deserve to be tagged 'Made in Kenya'. Moreover, the firm is incorporated elsewhere, n not in Kenya. One day we manufacture our own, but definitely not the Mobius. Their game has been busted!

[@sheeciru6967]

80 Prozent of German cars material are imported. Bosch 95 % is made in china .

[@muthuaeric326]

I think I saw a documentary from citizen saying they are now starting from scratch

[@ezraondaratv]

@@muthuaeric326 then that's better

[@ericmunene8521]

Its too expensive and handmade. Lacking uniformity

[@Dennisdg90]

Seriously how does a whole journalist skip such basic facts. Keep up the good work.

[@Yoh9624]

kenyan journalism( esp online media )went down the toilet a long time ago, have you seen their typos and broken Frankenstein like storylines ! .I sometimes just stop reading midway , no facts, errors and outright lies. Great job Eric! .

[@sportsStars77]

You had me at "Kenyans are like African mothers, even when you confess your mistakes they'll still beat you up!" Please get a chance to get the car so we now get an upclose review of the look and feel of it. I am seriously considering one. Also kwa sunroof, clear the air.

[@eskyboy2]

Great coverage.... you just confirmed what I suspected. The vehicle is not made or assembled anywhere near Nairobi. A while ago I saw a convoy of the vehicles on Mombasa road near Athi river..I guess they where imported fully assembled

[@jamesjolly4520]

that convoy you saw they were been delivered to a certain county government

[@CloudCG-Global]

Not kenyan at all

[@ruphaschege9411]

The ones you saw I think they are the mobiuses from china. You are the person with the real information

[@rafiki4476]

Great, evidence-based and honest content. I like this. You deserve a million subscribers. Also, today you got it right pronouncing 'alluring'.

[@belindarache4930]

Thank you for the juice, very informative, actually validating some concerns i had. I was wondering when you will take this up. I hope Mobius family can now give you the car you take it for a spin and share the reviews. Bet more juice :-). I wouldn't mind to know how it actually performs from an expert despite the ukalulu they have in marketing it. I applaud your honesty.

[@justusgwaromagangi7373]

Mobius will not ! he is too honest

[@amgaku]

Thanks for this. I always had the feeling we (🇰🇪) were being duped.

[@betaboreholeserviceskenya]

I had been waiting for a genuine review of this car. Keep it bro. Thank you

[@kagzjewels]

Best car reviewer in a Kenya! Some times though in other reviews, you repeat yourself, otherwise with time you will only get better, but really good...just comparing you with top gear...hehe

[@CARNVERSATIONS]

I appreciate that! Thanks for your support

[@julianomutoko5188]

This was very candid!! Thank you!

[@CARNVERSATIONS]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@Pk.foreal]

keep up the good work. I love your honest and in-depth car reviews.

[@CARNVERSATIONS]

Thank you for the support

[@Simut570]

It is assembled in Kenya and that is important for jobs and services!!

[@nicholasotieno2570]

In one video you crushed all my dreams, even after mobius three still wanted to own mobius 1 as soon as i could afford just to support our own, but this here is sacrilege. Nimekubali nilibebwa hadi mtito andei lakini nimeshuka. ntatembea si hata wangebadilisha rims. the only thing they changed is the grills

[@nkathafaith7295]

Thanks for the great info. Kenya is doing well. This is what is called "glocal" in business language. Global products contextualized to fit local markets. Most products that we buy in Kenya have components imported and mixed locally to fit targetted customers and branded as made in Kenya. This explains why a Cocacola in Kenya, UK, China and many other countries taste different although they all bear the same brand.

[@irunguhc.n2881]

AYEEEAAAHHHHH.. AYEEEAAAHHHHH HIT 53K SUBS.. 👍👍👍. BY DEC. 150K. You have amazing content 😉

[@CARNVERSATIONS]

Hapo SASA, thanks for the support always

[@jameswatiti5562]

Not a bad take on the politics of Mobius III. I would have wanted a bit more about the technical details of this ''parts bin'' car. From what I picked from a guy I saw with one recently, it has pretty good transmission (ZF) and a solid TDI ( he mentioned VW). Since Kenya doesn't really have any meaningful history of manufacturing cars, this conversation should really be about if this car is reasonably priced, and whether it's actually reliable.

[@destroyerarmor2846]

Hio Cummins diesel engine ni kitu mzuri sana. Old technology but good because in china and Kenya emissions hatujali😊

[@francisnjogu9263]

I actually thought it was made here, which made me extremely excited.. Kweli tunabebwa ufala.. But the car doesn't look bad at all, it gives me jeep vibes, though the pricing is a bit high. Thanks for the info👍🏽

[@CARNVERSATIONS]

Thanks for watching

[@Skedirahm]

Whatever the case, its providing employment in Kenya through assembly.

[@natureworld295]

It's not even assembly , they are doing most part of it in kenya

[@ruphaschege9411]

We need manufacturing now. That's more employment

[@pauldatche8410]

How much are other 2 litre engined cars brand new in the Kenyan market if we were to buy them so? Rav-4? CRV? Xtrail? Forester? Greatwall? If those cars are just 0.5m more than Mobius when bought brand new, then count mobius blown out of the water already.

[@davzbalian295]

Brand new Forester and Rav4 are ksh 5.5m n above with less power bana. Maybe Rav 4 matches it in power buy kila kitu ni same.

[@codelabkenya]

I hope you wont sugar coat this review Mobius Motors needs to be told the truth. They cud have struggled and improve on Mobius 2 other than bringing a chinese BJ40 replica of Jeep Wranger and rebranding to Mobius 3. How i wish they just gave this car a different name i am aware companies have agreements to rebrand other companies vehicles but this move just made me feel mobius aint Kenyan.

[@waluohopaulo2116]

Kenya could have remained with Mobius 1 concept but keep on improving as time goes by this could create more jobs for fabricators.

[@seanlovi8798]

The numbers could not allow

[@spkntv5991]

Totally the wrong kind of marketing to gain customers! Honesty is key! thank for real talk

[@swalehelshabiby5915]

How can i buy this car Mobius 3 with 4 doors is there office in Mombasa?

[@kevinkkirimii]

Love the video and the conclusion. Let this be a wake up call that of Kenyans want that high quality, Kenyans must be ready to invest in Kenyan companies and long term because I can only conclude that the 1st version failed because of lack of funding and technical abilities to make it viable.

[@geffvangoghjm8736]

Walai tumechezwa kila kitu mpaka interior ziko same na BAIC BJ40. Like seriously we should just say this is rebranding and the only thing that has been changed is the front grill, logo and name. CARNVERSATIONS you got my subscription for this, good job putting things into light.

[@jeffchurum1431]

For me i think the version 3 looks attractive, luxurious and competitive in the market. Id prefer this one than a secondhand Jeep.

[@justusgwaromagangi7373]

You are right until the point you look at options of brand new cars worth shs 4m

[@theebookkeeper]

this guy story telling skill is top tier. I subbed

[@jimmykarago2598]

I think manufacturing a car is very expensive. I genuinely think we really underestimate how much it costs. Thanks for this I didn't know mobius was a rebadged car. Though if I was mobius I'll still go with the narrative that it's a kenyan car to maximize sales. Is it ethical no, but the sales gives them enough time to build a genuine African car.

[@andrewkabena9325]

Like Elon Musk put it, cars should not be sold for profit, but profits should come from sales of parts and spares. First put the car in some owners hands and then expect to reap from sales in spares and service.

[@josephwanjiku6853]

Is the Mobius 1 still available?

[@split6543]

Nyayo pioneer 1 looked better than the first mobius

[@ayubkariuki8691]

Yes! I knew it was rebudging...waafrika ni waafrika Tu, tutadanganywa na tukubali. New intro🥳

[@skippertv1056]

Definately I was waiting for this review. thanks

[@augustinengumi7214]

Nice video but I wanted to highlight something. The Mobius 3 is a right hand configuration though in the website it shows left hand and that is something they need to change in Thier website. Things on ground are different. It's a good car and I believe the price is high because of the cost of buying and assembling it in Kenya is quite high. But again I would like to ask, with 4.6million Kenyan shilling which SUV would you buy? A NEW mobius 3 with almost nil mileage or a USED European or Japan car that fits the same price and is as powerful?

[@ambrosekimenju8410]

very candid in deed. Now do something about the Toyota Fortuner. It's quite hyped especially the new model.but am sure its a nice SUV.

[@CARNVERSATIONS]

We shall definitely look into it soon

[@ambrosekimenju8410]

@@CARNVERSATIONS kabisaaa

[@joelkamiru7321]

I think you should give us examples of brand new vehicles with mobius like specifics at a the same budget or cheaper. In the end, what we need is a reliable car in Kenyan terrain. Mobius has tried in assembling and creating jobs here in Kenya.

[@faithbisach669]

Am interested in Toyota Rush... What is your review?

[@kaumbuthurunyenje9339]

You burst some major bubbles with this video...

[@kanairichard2356]

I initially thought it's a jeep replica, the back end seems sort of Bronco kind of.

[@vitordj254]

Chinese copy everything bro... If u research, they have copied range, jeep, Lincoln escalade.... Chinese are just guys who want to call themselves geniuses

[@kanairichard2356]

@@josephkasonga4110 yeah. I think so. They have also made a replica of Range Velar so this wouldn't surprise me

[@lekenollemoita9343]

Exactly, looks like the Jeep Rubicon!😅

[@michaelmuya3013]

Someone told me the Mobius 3 is underpowered am quite interested to know ju I was very interested in getting one it's better than getting a second hand import

[@emmankianga9082]

Well put together presentation once again. Good job Bazu!

[@CARNVERSATIONS]

Thank you, glad you liked it

[@ericwolf8352]

Kindly eric wokabi please tell me more about Mercedes C200 because i want to acquire it

[@alainm9990]

Existe t'il une mobius avec le volant à gauche ?

[@johnpeterkarianjahi4456]

Very articulate Eric. You have done your homework well. Carnversations is taking us a level higher. keep it up!!

[@CARNVERSATIONS]

Much appreciated! Your feedback gives us the strength to produce more content

[@nevilleokumu7885]

This is wonderful information. I'm still skeptical of this car. We can't even manufacture bicycles a vehicle could be an overreach... Anyway get the car and review it but after watching this I doubt if Mobius will allow you?

[@enocknyakundi1090]

Can you recommend Audi A3 for a start up bachelor (1st car)

[@collinsmwangi3744]

Man! Your show is great man and your reviews are on point. I remember Mobius 1 or 2 and it was ugly- meant to save the African farmer; no power steering, no air conditioning, no real windows and full or rivets- which is bad for safety. With this Chinese one, it is going to be a hard task trying to beat Japanese imports and at that price...most people with about 4million will opt to get that japanese SUV. Maybe as you continue to review...you can let us know about the full specs, safety ratings, drive ability on the road and offroad, sound insulation, fuel consumption etc. Overall keep doing this shows. They are unique to Kenya...you may be the next car wow guy for Africa :).

[@corvusglaive5769]

Find me a brand new zero mileage 2021 SUV in Kenya that comes at a lower price at Mobius.

[@collinsmwangi3744]

@@corvusglaive5769 There not many...but marketing does not work like that. However, I think Mazda, Renault and Peugeot to name but a few, are quite competitive and don't forget Toyota has also introduced one or two affordable models. Most people with this amount of money will opt to go for what has been tested and works. Maybe if this was a locally done vehicle, it would be a different story. But to get a Chinese import over a Japanese one?- That's a hard sell but time will tell.

[@ericmwangi1140]

Great information. Eye opening. Thank you.

[@TheTororist]

no wonder the comments on their youtube are locked

[@kahigamuchiri7501]

Loving the New Logo.... first of all

[@apolloomondo8173]

Which brand new SUV can we get for 4M?

[@ElishaMurano]

Which engine is it running?

[@robinkiplagat5747]

How much is a brand new probox 0 millage?

[@mweatebere170]

Umewaanika kweli, yaani wewe ni kama Teamaster wa mandae, great job 👏 👏

[@ngarumurray]

Where did you get your info from?

[@mwasthedon]

How about reliability?

[@CurbKerb]

Ngoja, part 3 ya peugeot na demio iko wapi?

[@DennisOchiengOduor]

Been eagerly waiting for this!!

[@hemperor_mua420]

Do one for mahindra, especially the m-hawk engine

[@ruphaschege9411]

Mahindra M-hawk sounds like a great joke🤣🤣

[@mossad1153]

Kindly consider doing something comprehensive on the Golf M7 1.4 TSI...

[@dennomunene1066]

kumbe iko ovareted like this,,,thanks for the info

[@DannyYator]

If I remember correctly, 4M kes buys you a Toyota Rush with zero mileage. Also, Mitsubishi has a brand new ASX for that price at Simba corp. Being Chinese, this thing is worth taking with a grain of salt. It looks the part, yes, but would you bet your money on an engine and tranny that is being manufactured in the CCP? Be very afraid. And again, this jeep & Jimny hybrid has no Kenyan terrain DNA whatsoever. It is just a pure marketing ploy. This vehicle should be marketed just like other brands, especially alongside Chinese vehicles like the Cherry Tiggos and such.

[@martinmwenda3551]

And it's the 1st generation of it's kind,I'll be very sceptical

[@cavineomondi5487]

What you and other guys on this thread fail to understand is that, China currently make a lot of parts for many car companies. In fact, it is impossible to drive a new car with no part imported from China

[@jamesjolly4520]

you forgot proton

[@HLMM_KE]

@@martinmwenda3551 well, not exactly, the car has been in production and in use in China and some African countries for a while. It just got introduced in Kenya. That said, it doesn't full settle as a competitor to other established brands. The main problem is the pricing. For Chinese knockoff, that price has to come down.

[@HLMM_KE]

@@cavineomondi5487 that's true but that's not how customers sees it. People tend to rate anything coming directly from the chinese as poor quality. A middle quality assurance 'agent' is needed. For example, iPhone are manufactured in China but the fact that Apple supervises quality, people tend to trust them..... The Mobius 3....not so much.

[@amoskasera7642]

3.9m for a 214hp with 2.0L with zero mileage sounds like a good deal

[@andrewkabena9325]

$39,000,00 for a Chinese designed and Manufactured car is a little on the high side if I might say, and for an import that comes completely knocked down (CKD) and assembled here. CKD attracts less import duty and other taxes. If the VW vivo assembled here goes for far much less, what makes the Mobius any different?

[@ochiengjames5821]

Chinese Beijing J - 40. (BJ - 40) . A Chinese car assembled in Kenya. Kama Kenya haiwezi tengeneza ata toothpick itakuaje gari kama hiii? Danganya toto.

[@TheSamugz08]

How i wish they could have built on that second generation mobius. It had potential and I'm sure Kenyans would have been proud to own a good looking vehicle that's actually made in Kenya. This 3rd generation is just wrong. Maybe they should have sold it as the Baic. It would have sold in considerable numbers. I really hope no one one buys the so called Mobius 3.. Also 4 mil for that??????

[@erickagochimwaura230]

Thanks for being so candid. I always suspected that something was amiss and you just confirmed my worst fears. It ain't worth it.

[@kingtune6836]

Good work bro. Keep it up

[@loudclear377]

Eric : Mobius was incorporated in the UK. There's nothing Kenyan about it. Mobius : Tuliunda hiyo Gari na chuma ya doshi 😂😂

[@CARNVERSATIONS]

😂😂😂😂

[@haronx7206]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@b.k.5659]

Are they making it in the factory or importing parts and assembling?

[@andrewkabena9325]

Importing and assembling. No part except the grill is made in Kenya.

[@TheTororist]

i think they make the badge in kenya

[@b.k.5659]

@@TheTororist 😂😂

[@benagitss3684]

regardless of the challenges and the mystery surrounding its kenyan authenticity i believe its a good start. We will get there ahead of our neighboring countries some decades to come.

[@collinsmwangi3744]

Uganda is already ahead with the KIIRA electric car & bus. The UG government has allocated billions to the project including 100 acre land. In addition, Museveni has stopped importation of sub assemblies in order to enforce local manufacture of components. It means that KIIRA has had to set up a factory, send engineers to china etc. Our neighbors, Rwanda and Ethiopia are following suit...going electric/hybrid. Here we are celebrating petrol and diesel SUV from China, rebranded as a local build. I think we will be playing a bit catch up.

[@hassangingi7033]

Its regardless!! There is nothing like irregardless in English

[@sammwaniki6916]

Would you please review the Lexus rx450h or maybe as a comparison to the 'new' Harrier. Thanks in advance and I appreciate your work, very original and authentic

[@shadrackkisoyan9166]

Please do a honest review of Toyota fortuner. Keep up with your good work 👏 🙌 👍

[@mugodavid6997]

I like your reviews Erick! Nothing but the truth, always thought Mobius is a Kenyan car and very little was imported from developed countries.

[@DrWasambla]

Hebu niskize makini!! Jua tu nili nunua Honda Stepwagon Spada juu ya review ulifanya ya Stepwagon... Ile ya red/maroon. Never regretted!

[@adilshah7450]

i am not even kenyans but has to say you really spilled some facts

[@lemisosaroni8857]

How reliable is this car?

[@ndegwamugo9304]

Now look for the Mobius 3 and do a review. I am willing to spend 3.9M for a 0 mileage car

[@fallen69angel]

Then buy a Toyota Rush 2021 (7seater) at 3.1m brand new or a WV Tiguan 2021 @ 4.5m

[@ndegwamugo9304]

@@fallen69angel plus mindboggling tax

[@fallen69angel]

@@ndegwamugo9304 The prices above include taxes

[@jamesjolly4520]

@@fallen69angel rush and tiguan cant be compared with the mobius 3

[@fallen69angel]

@@jamesjolly4520 ok. Have a great day

[@ElBJosh-zg5kn]

And who in this world builds cars 100% in-house? All the top car makers grew from someone else's stable. Positivity is the only way.

[@CARNVERSATIONS]

We agree 💯, in those cases those top car makers acknowledged that they are using the other ones platforms to make their own prototype, simple

[@TheTororist]

its the lying and obfuscation that erodes trust in that company

[@nkathafaith7295]

Research and development allows building on someone's idea and expanding it further a notch by adding or subtracting something to the original. One can also start from the scratch to make an original invention but this is damn costly. The later can fail several times before you get a ptototype that can sell. Sio mchezo.

[@Iamkabera]

That title is Fire

[@frankndirangu4340]

I love you man.....this is what we need as automobile enthusiasts.....honesty is the key to a good review....most KZbin automobile creators give dishonest reviews because they are sponsored by various automobile companies ....thanks

[@ochiengaluoch1120]

Very insightful. I will visit the clinic.

[@charlesweru7787]

Congratulations 👏 for the vital information you always update us,thank you

[@eliudjrkim-sm6ru]

This guy deserve a billion likes coz he explain like a teacher