Mercedes Secondary Air Pump Problem

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@demer19374
@demer19374 8 жыл бұрын
just changed mine and what an awesome video to show the bolts needed to remove. 1/2 hour is all it took to put in a new one and then repair the old one for next time it fails. Thanks again. My labor plus 130 bucks for the part saved me a bundle!
@carquestions
@carquestions 8 жыл бұрын
That's what I want to hear - excellent
@CaptBill1111
@CaptBill1111 9 ай бұрын
Best DIY video ever. No BS, no rambling on, no over explaining, just the straight forward directions, and quickly, perfect!
@carquestions
@carquestions 9 ай бұрын
Glad you like it Cap - Cheers from Canada!
@albertkim9544
@albertkim9544 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video!! Based on lessons learned from your video, I tapped outside of the pump with a wood marlet, then the noise disappeared. It was a quick 10 mins job and saved enough money.
@albertkim9544
@albertkim9544 3 жыл бұрын
I realized that it won't be the permanent fix; however, there's no such thing as a permanent fix.
@or9826
@or9826 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video! Very detailed. Not just replace a part, but identify the problem and fix the part. Great work!
@carquestions
@carquestions Жыл бұрын
Thanks! 👍 Cheers from Canada!
@fgang781
@fgang781 Жыл бұрын
Wow my car is having the exact same issue! And every mechanic says the pump is about to go! Why cant everyone be like you honest!
@ermias01
@ermias01 7 жыл бұрын
Just finished working on my 2011 C300 - what an awesome instructional video. Thank you sir.
@carquestions
@carquestions 7 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped Ermias
@MK-xn6qx
@MK-xn6qx 5 жыл бұрын
When I saw jean jacket & white hair, I thought it was Jay Leno..
@indybop
@indybop 7 жыл бұрын
Exact same problem with my 2010 GLK. Thanks for the video and excellent walk through. I may just unplug mine and plug it back in come e test time.
@carquestions
@carquestions 7 жыл бұрын
Good idea Jason - car runs fine without it
@kenwuvideo
@kenwuvideo 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. My SLK350(M272) has same problem and I ordered a new pump and relay. Tomorrow I will replace them and keep old pump after cleaning and checking. from Japan.
@carquestions
@carquestions 6 жыл бұрын
Great! let me know how i works out
@kenwuvideo
@kenwuvideo 6 жыл бұрын
Look !!! I succeeded in repair of secondary air pump My blog : blogs.yahoo.co.jp/ken_wu/35154579.html
@fixmyhog
@fixmyhog 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video. I had the same issue on my 2008 C300. Mercedes wanted $ 1,200.00 to fix the issue. I found the part online for $ 143.96 at Pelican Parts and on eBay for $ 167.95. Mercedes Benz part # MB000-140-51-85 is listed for $ 875.00 from the dealer. Wow! The dealer does not provide you with a jar of Vasoline if you purchase from them.
@carquestions
@carquestions 4 жыл бұрын
ah - that's one way of putting it
@johnharris7113
@johnharris7113 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing video containing very intricate and informative detail. The combination of a great presentation and a knowledgeable instructor; I much appreciate. Thank you.
@carquestions
@carquestions 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! John
@eyeorewolf
@eyeorewolf 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video, my secondary air pump is making a similar noise, the pump looks like a glorified two stage shop vac blower. The black dust you blew off was obviously wear material from the brushes so I'm not sure if it was addition of grease to the bearings or the removal of the excess dust that actually got rid of the sound. I will be removing and disassembling my pump and will also try to see if I can't replace the brushes as part of the cleanup and lube process. Thanks again for the video it's a good guide even for my 05 SLK 55 AMG.
@carquestions
@carquestions 6 жыл бұрын
Kurt - thanks and let me know how it works out please
@eyeorewolf
@eyeorewolf 6 жыл бұрын
It's on my list of many projects but I will try to remember to also post the part number on the brushes if I am able to find them and send you some pictures or video of the replacement process, I'm speaking from pure ignorance at this point because I have not yet seen the motor first hand to see if it can be done.
@andyoverall1951
@andyoverall1951 2 жыл бұрын
I just took mine apart and couldn't remember exactly how it went back together so thanks for your help.
@carquestions
@carquestions 2 жыл бұрын
Anytime Andy - I hear ya - cheers from Canada!
@shiroeli9936
@shiroeli9936 4 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine a goddamn repair shop in my town asked me for $2800 to repair this? My car has the engine light on but it does not have any horrible noise. Thanks to your video and I decided to disregard it until it sounds like a jet engine. :)
@shiroeli9936
@shiroeli9936 4 жыл бұрын
At first, I mistook i2800 as 280 and thought it was a little bit expensive. Then, the manager told me it was $2800. F**K OFF!!
@johns.7609
@johns.7609 Жыл бұрын
Damn, when you said sounds like a jet engine you weren't kidding.
@hurexorderdesk6768
@hurexorderdesk6768 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info , I have a GLK350 Benz and I have the same Noise . . . disassembled the air pump and greased up the bearings .... issue solved
@carquestions
@carquestions 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped and thanks for the tip Hurex - Cheers from Canada!
@davidn9571
@davidn9571 4 жыл бұрын
Did you get and error code before the fix?
@BobJones-ib4xh
@BobJones-ib4xh Жыл бұрын
2007 C230 Sport/ I've had the car for 15 years now/ I usually hear this pump for the first 10-20 seconds during a cold start / yesterday morning the sound stuck around for what seemed a minute or two. After I drove off and was sitting at a traffic light the car felt like it wanted to flame out. Not sure if the two are related. I checked the hoses to make sure none were lose or disconnected and the car has not repeated the same minute long whine/ idles at about 300 RPM with no noticeable sign that the engine wants to flame out. I suspect the long whine may be this one component/ close flame out may be something entirely separate (new coil packs and plugs went in last year). Hoping to keep the car running another 3-5 years if possible so I hope its not anything major. Thanks for the content.
@carquestions
@carquestions Жыл бұрын
Sounds like 2 problems - get codes - also disconnect power to blower if you suspect its the source of the noise Bob - let me know what you find - Cheers from Canada!
@chrisxiao5471
@chrisxiao5471 3 жыл бұрын
Very encouraging video. I went homedepot to get T30 and some tools. In 30 min I took out the old one. Now need to find a replacement part on amazon which is painful to decide which to buy
@carquestions
@carquestions 3 жыл бұрын
Get the one with the best reviews Chris - Cheers from Canada!
@briansun4587
@briansun4587 5 жыл бұрын
Really helpful. The best made video that can be found on this disassembly. thanks
@carquestions
@carquestions 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Brian! Cheers!
@avalon1995
@avalon1995 4 ай бұрын
Good job on your diagnosis of that Bosh air pump and taking the time to identify the underlying cause of the noise it was making. Unfortunately, many in today's society won't take the time to do this kind of troubleshoothing and choose to take the easy way out by ordering a new part. The only disagreement I would have with you is replacing it (if need be) with a knockoff or less expensive part. If a customer can't afford paying for OE then they probably shouldn't own a Mercedes.
@carquestions
@carquestions 4 ай бұрын
Lots of MB parts made in Romania etc - you are assuming OEM parts are the best built, longest lasting etc? My rule is if it lets you down try someone else's product
@uzzle21
@uzzle21 5 жыл бұрын
should i change the relay first before i change the smog pump? just to see . i got a engine light for both
@carquestions
@carquestions 5 жыл бұрын
Yes - very good idea
@joeybonilla0416
@joeybonilla0416 5 жыл бұрын
Do you know the location of the relay I’ve been searching for a while can’t find g
@MikeAdam-ko9tu
@MikeAdam-ko9tu 2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much you are the only gentleman explaining that in a very good way, not like the others stupid people just talk stupid like themselves
@carquestions
@carquestions 2 ай бұрын
Thanks Mike
@nv1493
@nv1493 Жыл бұрын
Suggest using a fuse in the hot lead from the battery... " trying not to touch anything" is a good way to take out front SAM, or at least the mega fuses by the battery.
@waynebrown1907
@waynebrown1907 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome I'm doing mine the weekend.....will give feedback when sorted...
@carquestions
@carquestions 7 жыл бұрын
Good luck Wayne - remember it only comes on once in the morning when cold - after first start, it won't work again until it is completely cooled down
@waynebrown1907
@waynebrown1907 7 жыл бұрын
Yes I know that I've been monitoring it in the mornings, some times its louder than other days..
@waynebrown1907
@waynebrown1907 7 жыл бұрын
I've done mine last week and it run likes a dream, thank you for your video.
@johnseah957
@johnseah957 3 жыл бұрын
I had the same problem with my certified pre-owned 2010 E350. It was under the Mercedes CPO warranty, so the repair was covered. The issue that I ran into was that the secondary air pump failed every single year, so I had to replace them yearly for 3 years. The last time it failed, the warranty had just expired, but because it was replaced just under a year ago, it was still covered under the factory part warranty. This time the dealer looked into why the part failed every single year and they found that the secondary air shut off valves were leaking exhaust when closed. They ended up replacing both left and right bank secondary air injection shut off valves and that solved the problem with the air pump prematurely failing. Because my CPO warranty had already expired, the dealer got Mercedes to agree to cover the parts, but I had to pay for the labor.
@carquestions
@carquestions 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear all the trouble John - their story about the cause sounds suspicious to me - but you"ll know for sure within a year or so - if they found the cause they should issue a TSB on it.
@johnseah957
@johnseah957 3 жыл бұрын
@@carquestions That was what was listed on the repair order on what they replaced. I believe that was what fixed the problem, since it has been three years since that repair and the secondary air pump has not failed since. What ticks me off is they never bothered to look for what was causing the secondary air pump to fail prematurely when I had to replace it annually, not until my CPO warranty had expired.
@glorycedeno9046
@glorycedeno9046 Жыл бұрын
Hello CQ! very fishy... I’ll bet that they’re hoping he sells/trade up the car by then🤦🏽‍♀️ SMH 🙇🏾‍♀️ This is why we’re all searching for answers here, because they’re constantly Overcharging for working on Mercedes Bz due to failure of inferiority of original parts from factory on MB that have under 150k mi ☹️ Ridiculous!! I had a 04 es330 /348k, I never had any issues!! I gave to my G’daughter 🤦🏽‍♀️ Now I have this MBz sitting w no power to the fuse or air pump, it’s unresponsive, No Codes!! Geez🙇🏾‍♀️ I’m going back to LEXUS and I’ll enjoy the ride with a piece of mind😴
@DrMarvinLara
@DrMarvinLara 7 жыл бұрын
I had the same problem with my 2012 C250. But two months ago when the engine light came on, it didn't sound loud like that. Now it does sound like it a bit. And two days in a row, when I started the car cold, it struggled and I couldn't accelerate fast at all and the engine light blinked a few times and then came on. So I let the car idle a for a few minutes to listen for anything. Nothing more. So i turned off the car and 5mins later when I started the car, the engline light was off and it was running like normal again. I got the p0410 code. This has happened 2 days in a row. On the third day, the engine light just came on, but the car didn't struggle. Any idea what it could be?
@carquestions
@carquestions 7 жыл бұрын
It's the secondary air pump causing the problem - to test your theory just disconnect it and see what it does
@EmilianoG
@EmilianoG 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your video its very detailed and helpful.
@louisolazagasti4979
@louisolazagasti4979 6 жыл бұрын
Hello is it supposed to go on every time the car is cold
@carquestions
@carquestions 6 жыл бұрын
Yes 90% of the time
@metarexonthebeat5245
@metarexonthebeat5245 5 жыл бұрын
Hello, mine does not sound that loud or annoying. But in the morning it is much louder and becomes faint during regular use in the day. Will have to check this.
@carquestions
@carquestions 5 жыл бұрын
usually won't come on again during the day - just the first thing after a long period
@bnoakes4899
@bnoakes4899 3 жыл бұрын
Mines a 2011 GLK350, ECL Code PO410, no noise, engine runs great
@carquestions
@carquestions 3 жыл бұрын
Leave it and get more use out of it untill fails -Cheers from Canada!
@michaelhiggins7365
@michaelhiggins7365 6 жыл бұрын
Great video and is worth a try, however, I saw brand new aftermarket pumps on Ebay for $84 including shipping. Considering the time spent to do this, it may be more worthwhile to replace with new for well under $100 US.
@carquestions
@carquestions 6 жыл бұрын
Give the cheap one a try - the original one was no good why try them again?
@eyeorewolf
@eyeorewolf 6 жыл бұрын
When a part costs $700 and you can find it on eBay for under $100 I'd be a bit suspicious of quality however the pump is little more than a DC version of a two stage shop vac blower and you can buy an entire shop vac for under $100 so who knows. My policy on eBay is always "buyer beware" but there are good products on there at greatly reduced prices from OEM. The disassembly process didn't look that time consuming or complicated and even at $100 the two hours it probably took to disassemble and reassemble it would equate to $50 per hour, I used to make that kind of money and even then I favored DIY wherever possible and put the money in the bank, I guess that's why I retired at 53 with all my toys and it's play time. The only step I'm going to try to add to this process is attempting to locate and replace the brushes because the black dust he blew out of the unit was brush material so I'm not sure how long his customer's pump will remain quiet if the brushes are worn below spec., in any event awesome video.
@humbert1010
@humbert1010 8 жыл бұрын
hey great video but my car is a 1995 c280 benz and it does the same exact noise when started in the morning , would this be the case ? and where would it be located? thank you
@carquestions
@carquestions 8 жыл бұрын
If the noise only comes on for a minute and only when engine is cold then yes it most likely is the problem DJ - look for a similar looking electric motor under the hood
@dorothykhamphoune2376
@dorothykhamphoune2376 8 жыл бұрын
DJC
@EElegOfficial
@EElegOfficial 5 жыл бұрын
Hey, men excellent video, I just like to know what makes it go bad?
@carquestions
@carquestions 5 жыл бұрын
I'm looking into that now - video coming out shortly
@EElegOfficial
@EElegOfficial 5 жыл бұрын
@@carquestions because in less than a 2 year i have to replace it again, the first time that I replace it, I use Borsh, now i brought an after market.
@shwndh
@shwndh 6 жыл бұрын
It will be making the same noise in a week. The bearings are shot and the carbon brushes probably need to be replaced. You went that far into the motor you should have tried to take the shaft out to get to the bearings. This was a band aid fix. Good tear down though.
@frankiesun09
@frankiesun09 6 жыл бұрын
This dummy should have replaced the bearing(s) then it would last. This guy's middle name is BandAid... LOL
@jortiz7234
@jortiz7234 6 жыл бұрын
RE/MAX Northwest and shwndh any human that criticizes another human for making a video helping out others at no cost should really question their purpose not only here but in this planet as it says a lot about the way your mind operates and the frustration of unfulfilled goals. unaddressed psychological issues have a language of their own and you guys are speaking it loud and clear. possibly a lack of unity of parents and family, not enough attention by loved ones between the ages 5-13, only child busy parents or more than one child and being the second favorite or not a favorite at all. and many other issues that can be individually addressed. Point being you wont you get the proper sleep (rest) at night until you realize the world does not owe you anything but you do owe it to yourself the chance to live a fulfilled Human Life, one that carries positive thoughts and words of affirmation as what you say to others is simply an echo of unconscious thoughts about yourself. You nor this planet will ever benefit from negative reinforcement. "Help me Help you"
@Mikgwerd
@Mikgwerd 5 жыл бұрын
Even if you replace the part new, it will still make the same noise 5-6 months later. It's just a flawed bad quality part from Bosch that wont be fixed since dealers make a killing off it ($1127)
@davidjacobs8558
@davidjacobs8558 5 жыл бұрын
@@Mikgwerd pretty much all V6 and V8 Mercedes engines have this pump. and most of them don't break down every 5-6 month. so you should look into why your pump breaks down after 5-6 month.
@Mikgwerd
@Mikgwerd 5 жыл бұрын
@@davidjacobs8558 ok then. Tell everyone who commented on this video about their SAP the same thing, that they must all be overlooking something.
@joseluiscabada31
@joseluiscabada31 6 жыл бұрын
I own a 2005 Crossfire and a check engine light popped up and it’s the smog pump but every time I look it up it brings me to Mercedes videos is it the same part for both?
@carquestions
@carquestions 6 жыл бұрын
Yep - your car is 99.9% mercedes so get the mercedes pump -
@draxler2941
@draxler2941 2 жыл бұрын
Hey man... thanks for making this detailed video... it certainly helped me and fixed the issue for me. Thanks for the effort!!!!
@carquestions
@carquestions Жыл бұрын
Anytime Drax - Cheers from Canada!
@jamzempire
@jamzempire 5 жыл бұрын
Code P0410 sent me here as well, i have a 2010 c300. My car does sound like a get engine upon startup so i guess i will be changing a pump!
@generalmeng
@generalmeng 7 жыл бұрын
what is the function of the secondary Air pump?
@carquestions
@carquestions 7 жыл бұрын
It is strictly an emission device designed to blow / purge air in exhaust to help warm cats quicker -
@krzysztofkazmierczak6072
@krzysztofkazmierczak6072 7 жыл бұрын
What is a black liquid in the syringe?
@carquestions
@carquestions 7 жыл бұрын
light wheel bearing grease - multipurpose
@gevinization
@gevinization 2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the help. You saved me lots of money.
@carquestions
@carquestions 2 ай бұрын
Great to hear! - love that! - Cheers from Canada!
@riddjo
@riddjo 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting !!! Great job on showing all the details 👍😁
@carquestions
@carquestions 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jo - Cheers from Canada!
@tonykari5124
@tonykari5124 4 жыл бұрын
I've changed my secondary air pump 7 months ago and I've fixed few other things but I can't get my secondary air to get READY for the smog emissions test. Everything else exept EVAP & Secondary air wont get ready. Ita been 450 miles since... WTH
@carquestions
@carquestions 4 жыл бұрын
Need codes to know more Tony - Sec air pump only comes on when engine is dead cold - hard to say - would just be guessing without codes
@tonykari5124
@tonykari5124 4 жыл бұрын
@@carquestions no codes at all ... I had to jump my BMW 3 weeks ago because it was 18 outside and I didn't use it for 9 days or so. So now after driving 400 miles plus I can't get the secondary to get ready so I can pass the emissions test
@ksajan16
@ksajan16 4 жыл бұрын
I am getting p0810 and p0814, same thing secondary pump not ready. I replaced the fuse, relay and pump is working. But this code shows up with not ready :(
@AsunderSoft
@AsunderSoft 6 жыл бұрын
A check engine light brought me here. I checked with a code reader and got P0410 secondary air injection system. Followed by another code 0814-00 Malfunction of secondary air injection at left bank of cylinders (function chain) (P0410). I visually inspected all connections and hoses and those seem to be OK. Mine does not make the noise the one in the video did. Any suggestions?
@carquestions
@carquestions 6 жыл бұрын
Change the pump - here's why - I changed one out a noisy one and a week later the code came back but the second SAP wasn't making noises like the original one - put in the third one and it has been fine ever since
@tommytinker
@tommytinker 6 жыл бұрын
It comes apart very easy, blow out dust and put some lubricant on bearings and noise is gone!
@Ouza38
@Ouza38 6 жыл бұрын
well said. Can i use fuel injector cleaner every time i fill up , or once a year ? just took it to local shop charge me $260. for a used one.
@carquestions
@carquestions 6 жыл бұрын
Don't bother - doesn't need it
@skydivedickson
@skydivedickson 6 жыл бұрын
Hey @carquestions, thanks a ton for the video. After watching it I tested my Aux Air pump and it makes the same noise. Am I able to drive the car with this part removed until it is repaired? Thanks
@frankiesun09
@frankiesun09 6 жыл бұрын
Doesn't look like this KNOW-IT-ALL Replies to questions...
@Mikgwerd
@Mikgwerd 5 жыл бұрын
Yes you can drive it. You will have CEL that'll stay on until you replace it however.
@fgang781
@fgang781 Жыл бұрын
You look like your super honest! I wish i was in canada! Do you think that after getting the transmission selenoid codes i need to change the whole valve body? They’re trying to charge me 1,150$ for that on a 2010 e350. Sometimes i turn on the car and it operates food the whole day! Other times it goes on limp mode! Is my transmission bad? Should i just junk it? I like the car but im afraid its not worth the money if the transmission is bad
@carquestions
@carquestions Жыл бұрын
Sadly I'd say change the whole valve body - this vehicle is well known for that issue and that is typically the fix - and always cheaper to fix than replace something. - Cheers from Canada!
@fgang781
@fgang781 Жыл бұрын
@@carquestions thank you! For your answer! So sad to hear you say that i need a new Valve Body i just dont understand if the codes dont pop up when first starting the vehicles why does the transmission operate so smooth? I have a feeing its something with the electricity but you might be right and im just being overly-optimistic cheers from The Bronx, NY
@laffenskyette
@laffenskyette Жыл бұрын
For that price, i believe you will only get the electric kit, which is the upper part of the bodyvalve. But it is the electric kit that usually faulty.
@amyweisenburger
@amyweisenburger Жыл бұрын
I have the exact MB that he's working on in this video. In the past 3 months, my auto repair has replaced the secondary air pump 3xs. I have had it home for a week and it sounds like it is on the verge of failing again. I can tell by the smell, how it drives, and also the sound.They have checked the electrical, etc. Any thoughts or insight?
@carquestions
@carquestions Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you have parts replacers instead of a real mechanic - you are not paying them to guess or "try" and fix it otherwise you should "try" to pay them if you get what I mean - Sounds like you need a new mechanic Amy - good luck and Cheers from Canada!
@johnhall4427
@johnhall4427 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like your guys arnt really replacing the pump with a new one. Clean and shine up the old unit and back in it goes! Theres not much to wonder about the seconday air injection pump. Just a electric motor that runs off 12 volts. Super easy to test with just 2 wires to a battery. If it fires up then your pump is good with no reason to burn up. Unless: but it does run off a relay in the fuse box. When you start your car the air pump should stay on for only about 20-30 seconds then shut off. The relays are known to go bad now and then and thats where the air pump stays on and wont shut off and the air pumps burn out and fry. Thats possibly what your smelling. Id bet your guys didnt replace the relay which is only about $15 bux. Relay is 10 second job like a fuse....just pop the old out and plug in the new one. Hard time believing your guys have put in 3 pumps that run on a 12 volt system and they all burn out. 🙄 😒 😬
@carquestions
@carquestions Жыл бұрын
Good advice John - Cheers!@@johnhall4427
@rhinolipsince07usamfgedori93
@rhinolipsince07usamfgedori93 5 жыл бұрын
Bad Engine Temp Sensor can cause the Engine Cooling fan to default to an "ALWAYS ON HIGH" Mode whenever the car is started.
@RothBeyondTheGrave
@RothBeyondTheGrave 4 жыл бұрын
My sister had that bad sensor in her w203 230. Replaced & sounds normal again/fan only comes on when it should
@Jaiflo6101
@Jaiflo6101 6 жыл бұрын
Hello, excellent video and explanation. Question I have is what type of grease did you use to inject to it and how is the car today since you did that to it?
@carquestions
@carquestions 6 жыл бұрын
Any light oil you have kicking around - its just used to diagnose it - the joint was replaced a day later
@gnomebmw
@gnomebmw 3 жыл бұрын
@@carquestions what does it mean the joint was replaced a day later? So the light oil was just temporary?
@WaveProject
@WaveProject 4 жыл бұрын
I got my secondary air injection pump and relay replaced and P0410 and the check engine light is on. Do you think it could be the new part I bought it on amazon. We checked it and it worked. So what is going on? Thanks for the help.
@carquestions
@carquestions 4 жыл бұрын
They sometimes do that - disconnect battery for 20 minutes then try again otherwise try another replacement
@derekehardy6265
@derekehardy6265 4 жыл бұрын
Is your check engine light on still?
@moonyachti
@moonyachti 4 жыл бұрын
Don't you have tondrive for a certain amount of miles for it too clear?
@WaveProject
@WaveProject 4 жыл бұрын
LETS PLAY I did but nothing.
@moonyachti
@moonyachti 4 жыл бұрын
@@WaveProject my check engine light is still on too and i need it to clear so i can pass smog they said it could be not enough volts and could be due to some technical wire issue not sure if its ground or not but im going to get it fixed for $50 I'll update this once i get it done and find out what it is👍
@jcchen9461
@jcchen9461 8 жыл бұрын
Hello Mark, I have a 2009 C300 with almost 70k miles. My pump sounds the same like the one in your video, also the engine light is on with code P0410. Is the noise pump the problem of this code? I would like to make sure before getting a new pump to replace. Because I saw other post with this code is not cause by the pump. Thanks for your great video.
@carquestions
@carquestions 8 жыл бұрын
Yes it was the same code I had - change the pump JC
@jcchen9461
@jcchen9461 7 жыл бұрын
Mark, I replaced with a new pump. It runs quite now. And I cleared the code. But after couple cold morning start, the Engine light come back on with the same code P0410. What you think I should check next?
@nordemoniac
@nordemoniac 5 жыл бұрын
Mine sounds like a vacuum when cold starting the engine. Is it normal?
@brobb5767
@brobb5767 2 жыл бұрын
I Also agree as from below, E, yes the black dust is from the electric Carbon brushes and there's a great possibility they are Worn out, just touching metal to metal. You should be able to get brushes, if not buy electric chain saw ones and modify then to size/fit. And well done on fixing the pump. 👍
@carquestions
@carquestions 2 жыл бұрын
Good tip B Robb - cheers!
@ayhankilicoglu8434
@ayhankilicoglu8434 5 жыл бұрын
Hello, what have you done between the timeline 17:44-19:21, thanks.
@soomr2276
@soomr2276 7 ай бұрын
구리스 주입
@ch-vs3fw
@ch-vs3fw 2 жыл бұрын
Well done! Thank you! Much appreciated!!
@carquestions
@carquestions 2 жыл бұрын
Anytime - cheers!
@gomugomunoo4590
@gomugomunoo4590 7 жыл бұрын
i have the same issue.. is it an urgent matter to fix ? does it have a lot of negative consequences on the engine or the exhaust if not fixed quick ? thank you very much for the video btw and thank you if u ever replay to my questions
@carquestions
@carquestions 7 жыл бұрын
You can drive as long as you like - shouldn't affect the running of the car at all - lots of messages maybe but just disregard until you can fix it - wouldn't let it ruin a trip
@gomugomunoo4590
@gomugomunoo4590 7 жыл бұрын
nice thank you for the quick answer :) have a good day sir
@farajradaideh3637
@farajradaideh3637 4 жыл бұрын
boss what is the main job for this pumbe please
@microshiroku
@microshiroku 2 жыл бұрын
thanks bro, your vid saved me 300 dollar
@carquestions
@carquestions 2 жыл бұрын
Love that - Cheers from Canada!
@airsoftalamo3469
@airsoftalamo3469 3 жыл бұрын
Mine was this bad I have a c280 with 84,000 miles on the clock. I bought new one on ebay for £50 took 30 minutes install and sounds so quiet now, instead of waking neighbors with my old jet engine one. Mercedes dealer quoted me £674.99 + Vat for part alone with labor I bet it be £1000 so for £50 I'm happy 😂
@carquestions
@carquestions 3 жыл бұрын
Same price hear in Canada - Well done AA - Cheers!
@Ibew_351
@Ibew_351 Жыл бұрын
I like how you said you didn't take the "5th" bolt off of the bracket lol. It's because there wasn't one 🤣.
@fahadalbalushi5655
@fahadalbalushi5655 6 жыл бұрын
Dear chief, huge thanks for your help i have one more question, i have 230 c-class gcc spec and as i found from the check engine the fault code was 0140 and theres no jet sound while running the engine in morning but the main issue while the car running on any hight way to rpm needle is not stable moving up and down and i feel the car is not normal , do you think the problem is from the same secondary air ? Please i need your help and support
@fahadalbalushi5655
@fahadalbalushi5655 6 жыл бұрын
High way*
@carquestions
@carquestions 6 жыл бұрын
Your problem doesn't sound like it is related to the air pump - so check the car for other computer codes asap - BTW could you do me a favour and check out my arthritis video and let me know what you think please - in need some feedback - cheers Fahad! - let me know how you make out. Reply ·
@fahadalbalushi5655
@fahadalbalushi5655 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for response chief, today i went to one if the mechanic and he told me that my car have air leak from the throttle manifold and the air are not passing to the exhaust system, can you advise?
@Pampilius86
@Pampilius86 6 жыл бұрын
maybe this? kzbin.info/www/bejne/bmHZnqqhntWDl80
@LiamRoberts00
@LiamRoberts00 6 жыл бұрын
HelpI have a slight problem I have got the Mercedes straight six and the turbo is in the process of breaking, on the engine I have it has a pipe from a circular object with a black lid of sorts which seems to be coming off at the end by the cam, it breathes air, sorry my question is should the air have a residue of oil within it, has that led to the demises of my turbo or does it prolong the life of a turbo through lubrication.
@carquestions
@carquestions 6 жыл бұрын
It is a sign the turbo has failed - internal oil seals fail on turbos putting oil in places where only air should be
@carquestions
@carquestions 6 жыл бұрын
It isn't prolonging the life of the turbo - check your oil level and make sure you keep it full - the problem only gets worse
@LiamRoberts00
@LiamRoberts00 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much for your reply, last night I ordered a replacement turbo which should l arrive tomorrow, today I shall take off the failing turbo and see if I can find out what the device is that I have no name for that breaths spent air from the engine and see if that needs to be overhauled.
@youngblood8612
@youngblood8612 5 жыл бұрын
I have the same problem on my c350 its sounds like airplane engine but now its totally not working give me engine light on my dash and i drove for week with a broken SAP now when i start the car its like shaking a bit idk if because of the SAP i went to the mercedes dealer for the price of SAP and guess what 1,350$ + the relay 40$ i order in FCP Euro for 215$ BOSCH BRAND all i have to do wait for my parts and install it and i will clean and lubricate the original one like you did to use in case the new one fail , thank you sir save me money for labor.
@yokev_5611
@yokev_5611 4 жыл бұрын
I’m having the same issue with my C350 (p0410) did you experience loss of power when you hit the gas? Does your shakes a little cold start? Also do you hear any funny grind when you hit the pedal?
@yokev_5611
@yokev_5611 3 жыл бұрын
@@PlaywithDaisy my Catalytic was clogged and I had to change my mass air flow sensor
@Dnasty1
@Dnasty1 2 жыл бұрын
This is the exact noise i'm having but not as loud. Lol I was describing it as an electronic space ship noise and everyone was looking at me crazy. What exactly does this part do. Is it urgent to replace?
@carquestions
@carquestions 2 жыл бұрын
No Adam not urgent normally - it feeds air into the exhaust for cleaner combustion on cold start ups
@Dnasty1
@Dnasty1 2 жыл бұрын
@@carquestions thanks. Great vid btw. I’ve noticed my air pump stays running at all times is this another symptom of failure? Also could it be related to the random misfire like feeling I’m getting from the engine? I don’t have any codes but I do notice occasional stutters that feel like misfire and when I watch the engine with the cover off it seems like it is hesitating quickly at times. Creates a minor vibration in cabin.
@carquestions
@carquestions 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dnasty1 secondary air pump is not to run constantly - only a few seconds on a cold start - if it is a misfire you'll get a code - if not it is something else not a misfire
@shark70007000
@shark70007000 Ай бұрын
Mine makes that noise. I was thinking of taking it apart to see if I could make it quiet. But what I noticed the other day was that mine sucks air in the hose that goes to the intake manifold. On my wife's car, it blows air into the intake manifold.
@carquestions
@carquestions Ай бұрын
Yep - it's for emissions Shark - Cheers from Canada!
@SKETNETAICALLS
@SKETNETAICALLS 6 жыл бұрын
2004 S430 does the same cold in the morning then calms down later. You think that model has that part too?
@uzzle21
@uzzle21 5 жыл бұрын
Angel Soliz yes it has it
@rodflood2878
@rodflood2878 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video technique. Our 2011 C250 was making a noise for a few seconds upon cold start which sounded like a bearing in a pulley (kind of like a squeal - instead of a jet). After a week the noise stopped but got check engine light and P0410 "secondary air injection system". Engine runs fine. Would you hazard to guess it is this air pump ? (Go Canada go)
@carquestions
@carquestions 3 жыл бұрын
Rod - When I said jet engine I mean - it's a very high pitched screech / squeal - so I think you definitely need an air pump replaced.
@redbaron2448
@redbaron2448 6 жыл бұрын
What does the secondary air pump actually do.
@carquestions
@carquestions 6 жыл бұрын
supplies a large volume of air to the cats to reduce emissions
@redbaron2448
@redbaron2448 6 жыл бұрын
carquestions 👌 thanks. So if you don't have cats then you don't need this right my cats were deleted, just extra weight hanging on the car
@memeco50
@memeco50 3 жыл бұрын
A bought a cheap one for $81 and didn't care about the longer noise than usual. I kept the original Bosch part. I'll try fixing that one. The cheap one is broken now after a couple of months. I'll try to fix it too. Is it true this part is only good for passing smog check?
@carquestions
@carquestions 3 жыл бұрын
yes - only for emissions - no affect on engine running - keep fixing
@kbikerider8474
@kbikerider8474 3 жыл бұрын
However, if it is inoperative, it will throw a code 0410 and a check engine light.
@walschaum2544
@walschaum2544 4 жыл бұрын
Great Video, thank you! Which grease do you use? Thanks!
@carquestions
@carquestions 4 жыл бұрын
try anything you have around
@VicBladez
@VicBladez 7 жыл бұрын
Do you know which relay goes to this pump?
@carquestions
@carquestions 7 жыл бұрын
Victor - look it up in the owner's manual is best thing
@AcaciaSpawn
@AcaciaSpawn 6 жыл бұрын
on my c280 it's under a screwed down cover in the top left under the hood, theres a fuse box there and the relay is next to a big 40 fuse.
@BrettWyrick
@BrettWyrick 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Mark - I'm getting P0410 code on my 2008 C300. The thing is, it doesn't sound like a circular saw or anything in the morning. I can hear the Secondary Air Pump (I think) running when I turn it on from a cold start. Any idea on what else it could be?
@carquestions
@carquestions 7 жыл бұрын
Let the problem develop further - it's the SAP most likely
@BrettWyrick
@BrettWyrick 7 жыл бұрын
carquestions Thanks for the reply. I've had this p0140 code for four years - if something was going to break on it, shouldn't it have broke by now?
@mattg.4108
@mattg.4108 2 ай бұрын
Nice work man, thx.
@carquestions
@carquestions Ай бұрын
Thanks Matt - Cheers from Canada!
@اسامهعبدالسلام-ي9غ
@اسامهعبدالسلام-ي9غ 3 ай бұрын
What is the function of this pump and show the pump damage
@carquestions
@carquestions 3 ай бұрын
it supplies air to the exhaust manifold - the damage is simply nad bearings - Cheers!
@erikko6523
@erikko6523 3 жыл бұрын
Yo bro please tell me if it’s my problem 2003 Cadillac deville check engine light on but runs like a charm code P0412 Is it possible my pump could be on but not blowing significantly? So I would still need one ?
@carquestions
@carquestions 3 жыл бұрын
Yes Erikk that could be happening - change it out and let me know how it works out for you - çheers from Canada
@A.CAL96
@A.CAL96 2 жыл бұрын
I switch my mine out thank you but I’m still getting the same code, do you know why it’s still showing a code
@carquestions
@carquestions 2 жыл бұрын
Cal - I've run into this before with aftermarket replacements - you can try getting a higher level scan tool to reset, take it back for another or forget about it if it's working ok - Cheers from Canada!
@xtr3mso282
@xtr3mso282 2 жыл бұрын
U might need to check the secondary air injection valve, i changed everything in my car, including the fuse, the relay and the air pump itself but i am still having the same thing. So i ordered a valve and hopefully that will fix it.
@A.CAL96
@A.CAL96 2 жыл бұрын
@@xtr3mso282 thank you for the response, i didnt know we had to change the relay do you know which relay it is ? and which valve are you replacing cause i noticed theres 3 vavles connected to the the air pump
@xtr3mso282
@xtr3mso282 2 жыл бұрын
@@A.CAL96 here is a video that shows where the fuse and the relay is. Hope this helps kzbin.info/www/bejne/fn-rnnSuhradotE
@mrm1712
@mrm1712 Жыл бұрын
How much power should be coming to the electric connector? At first there was 0 power, i replaced relay, then on cold start it was showing 22V. I thought problem resolved! but P0410 code is back and now the electric connector to air pump has 0 power again? new relay gone bad? What could be wrong
@carquestions
@carquestions Жыл бұрын
Get another meter - there is no source on the car for anything over 15 Volts DC unless you alternator has gone south - 22V should never occur on a car on any circuit
@mrm1712
@mrm1712 Жыл бұрын
@@carquestions I will try another meter I guess. I tried on the battery and it was showing 12V. On the Fuse box, I tried the relay pins, 12V too. But in the connector it was showing 22V I thought that was weird.
@carquestions
@carquestions Жыл бұрын
@@mrm1712 Could be a relay that somehow failed and put 12V in series somehow making the 22v
@11kdogg1024
@11kdogg1024 7 жыл бұрын
Mark if I replace that part will my check engine light shut off on it's own.
@carquestions
@carquestions 7 жыл бұрын
Yes it should
@aZnXpSyKo
@aZnXpSyKo 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video! I'm having the same issue right now, what kind of grease did you use?
@carquestions
@carquestions 5 ай бұрын
just motor oil
@omarm330
@omarm330 Жыл бұрын
W203 2002 C240 all my I/M are ready except for the AIR. Why won't this monitor turn on green check for it to be smog ready ? No codes for this SEC air pump.
@carquestions
@carquestions Жыл бұрын
Keep putting on the miles - it should turn on at some point if everything else is good -
@jackbunker172
@jackbunker172 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, great video. I used it to take my pump off and give it a clean. Mine sounds like a jet on start up when hot and cold but I haven't ever had a warning light come on. Would you recommend swapping the part out or just keep it in?
@carquestions
@carquestions 4 жыл бұрын
Just keep it for now - keep cleaning it
@hoodhounds22
@hoodhounds22 4 жыл бұрын
Was the car experience in power loss??
@Alex-jp3ek
@Alex-jp3ek 4 жыл бұрын
That’s exactly how I feel. I just bought my air injector pump, I’ve noticed less power with the car. So I’d say so yes
@catchitcookit9449
@catchitcookit9449 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video I'm having the same problem with my 2010 C300 but it only ones for a Split Second but I have a feeling it will get worse and also the secondary air pump in America is only $130 that's a weird at cost so much there
@Mikgwerd
@Mikgwerd 5 жыл бұрын
Just buy from FCPeuro, they have lifetime warranty...and you'll need it because this is one of the shittiest quality parts that Bosch makes.
@uzzle21
@uzzle21 5 жыл бұрын
my pump doesn’t make any loud noise either , what should i do ? i just dont wanna waste any money on it .
@carquestions
@carquestions 5 жыл бұрын
Leave it then and disregard the warning - nothing will happen
@uzzle21
@uzzle21 5 жыл бұрын
carquestions i got the warning off then it came right back on. so i went on head and ordered both parts so hopefully the check engine light will go off
@andrenadeausimard9958
@andrenadeausimard9958 3 жыл бұрын
Very good video. I will do the same to mine and see what it does!
@carquestions
@carquestions 3 жыл бұрын
Great Andre - let me know how you make out - Cheers from Canada!
@andrenadeausimard9958
@andrenadeausimard9958 3 жыл бұрын
@@carquestions by the way, what kind of grease did you use?
@carquestions
@carquestions 3 жыл бұрын
@@andrenadeausimard9958 oil not grease - try anything you have - a light oil maybe
@andrenadeausimard9958
@andrenadeausimard9958 3 жыл бұрын
@@carquestions got it. I should work on that this PM and give you my feedback. Can’t thank you enough for showing me the way ;)
@carquestions
@carquestions 3 жыл бұрын
@@andrenadeausimard9958 Anytime
@mayurpatel8713
@mayurpatel8713 3 жыл бұрын
Had the same issue on my 2006 B200 non turbo. Same loud sqeeling noise which dies down after about 30 secs. Until one day I started the car in the morning and the noise started and I heard a grinding noise when the fan motor just siezed up and the engine light came on with error code P0491. Got it replaced with a used working pump from a salvage yard. Reset the ECU but after a couple of months the warning light in the dash came back on but this time no sqeeling noise. So I replaced the Secondary pump relay to eliminate the issue pertaining to electrics. Reset the ECU and drove for a couple of weeks and bang the light came back on again when starting from you cold. Run out of ideas!
@carquestions
@carquestions 3 жыл бұрын
Some of the motors are very prone to setting off the light before being noisy I'm afraid
@dkguy8117
@dkguy8117 3 жыл бұрын
if you can do this overhaul yourself..koodos, but a mechanic's labour would be too expensive. would be cheaper to buy a new one online and replace it . Mine failed 9 years after new car purchase, bought a Bosch online $287cad had my mechanic install it. Three years later it has now failed again, purchased same Bosch online awaiting arrival.(dealership quoted me $1700.00 installed)
@miguel924
@miguel924 3 жыл бұрын
It may be detecting too much current consumption from the secondary pump. Even though it may sound good, maybe the current consumption is too high due to friction. Try to repair it with some grease like in the video. That may do the trick.
@joseluisalmeida7492
@joseluisalmeida7492 Жыл бұрын
Hi, these secondary air pump should be always runing? Or just run in some ocasions? Best regards.
@carquestions
@carquestions Жыл бұрын
they run for 30 seconds on cold start ups - thats it
@joseluisalmeida7492
@joseluisalmeida7492 Жыл бұрын
@@carquestions thank you for your reply. Meanwhile i had disconected the electric plug from these air pump and the engine seems to work the same way. Is it damaging something? Thanks.
@carquestions
@carquestions Жыл бұрын
Nope - will not affect driveability or longevity @@joseluisalmeida7492
@jbutler3694
@jbutler3694 Жыл бұрын
Where is the fuel pump and filter located on a SLK 350 05 model
@carquestions
@carquestions Жыл бұрын
Inside the fuel tank like most cars today
@mrkongsimr
@mrkongsimr 3 жыл бұрын
So is there timing on fixing this for free ? Mine is a 2004 and makes this noice , but just for a while . Thank you !.,
@ioanniskalathakis4037
@ioanniskalathakis4037 4 жыл бұрын
How much is a aftermarket pump?
@carquestions
@carquestions 4 жыл бұрын
Best thing to do is a Google search for your area suppliers Ioannis - I'm in Canada - Cheers!
@struggleone3694
@struggleone3694 4 жыл бұрын
Good job coach 👍💯
@carquestions
@carquestions 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks SO - Cheers from Canada!
@meleshailemariam
@meleshailemariam 2 жыл бұрын
Would this part make the engine to switch off while it starts. Thanks
@kelvinleigh
@kelvinleigh 4 жыл бұрын
Question. I have an intermittent P0410 code on a 2005 C240 4matic. What do you suggest I do?
@dodasch5685
@dodasch5685 2 жыл бұрын
can someone tell me, wich bearings are installed?
@carquestions
@carquestions 2 жыл бұрын
Going to try and rebuild it Dodasch? - way to go ! Cheers from Canada
@dodasch5685
@dodasch5685 2 жыл бұрын
2x 608S, a bit hard to disassemble, tomorrow i will get two new bearings and put it together.
@a.f.1587
@a.f.1587 Жыл бұрын
@@dodasch5685 Hi! Did you rebuild the motor eventually? My pump is making crazy noise, probably the bearings are shot, i want to change them. So are they indeed 608S bearings? 8x22x7mm size? And how difficult was it? Do you need special tool for pulling/pusing the bear8ngs out? Thanks!
@dodasch5685
@dodasch5685 Жыл бұрын
@@a.f.1587 it's relatively simple, yes you need 2x 608S bearings, no special tools required! You can remove it and drive without it until you get it fixed, nothing will happen to your car.
@a.f.1587
@a.f.1587 Жыл бұрын
@@dodasch5685 Thanks for the info. Yes i know noth8ng will happen, but it's not that bad at this moment. It has that annoying sound, and i will fix it before it fails completely. Thanks again, i will order the bearings tomorrow.
@ndeva820812
@ndeva820812 5 жыл бұрын
WHAT ARE THE BAD EFFECT IF MY AIR PUMP IS NOT WORKING
@davidhall3747
@davidhall3747 5 жыл бұрын
It will fail Emissions Test. No damage will occur to your Engine.
@nothingtoseehere5760
@nothingtoseehere5760 5 жыл бұрын
Not as severe as the bad effect of shouting lol
@nothingtoseehere5760
@nothingtoseehere5760 5 жыл бұрын
What is that curvy puller tool that you have? I would like to get one. Thanks! :-)
@gnomebmw
@gnomebmw 3 жыл бұрын
How do we know the sap check Valves are not clogged up or stuck open?
@carquestions
@carquestions 3 жыл бұрын
Well the motor bearings screaching are a got indicator - other stuff should throw a different set of codes - Cheers!
@mamoon3737
@mamoon3737 4 жыл бұрын
Does this cause any problems? Mine is noisy (not as noisy as this) but I’m wondering if this will cause me any problems down the road?
@meepsheep3655
@meepsheep3655 4 жыл бұрын
Im very curious as well. It shows no error codes or anything on my dash. I brought it to multiple mechanics and they said to not worry since there is no signal codes and that it goes away within 15-30seconds
@chrismullin3986
@chrismullin3986 4 жыл бұрын
Mine has been removed by previous owner, missing, never noticed any problems... Think it has something to do with oil fumes, from within the engine? Emmisions, other engines dont have a "vacuum cleaner" like this, don't think it's necessary really. Turned out it is not necessary. www.mercedes.gen.in/p0410-secondary-air-fix-mercedes-s-class-w220/
@aly9621
@aly9621 4 жыл бұрын
The only issue I can foresee is it failing later and having to replace it anyway. I’m the mean time your car wouldn’t pass emissions
@uzzle21
@uzzle21 5 жыл бұрын
hey man i have a question again for you , okay so ichanged the smog pump and also the relay . now im getting a code for the check valves , can i just remove them and clean it up?
@carquestions
@carquestions 5 жыл бұрын
You can certainly try it - but MB's are a pain in the ass for lights coming on
@davidhall3747
@davidhall3747 5 жыл бұрын
Once the Kombi Valves get plugged up with Carbon- you need to swap it out.
@uzzle21
@uzzle21 5 жыл бұрын
David Hall so change my valves ? appreciate yo help my boy
@davidhall3747
@davidhall3747 5 жыл бұрын
@@uzzle21 You need to verify that the vacuum lines attached to your Intake Manifold- secondary air injection switchover valve- and Kombi Valves is in good condition. Once that's done you need to remove your Kombi valves and verify that your smog pump is pushing air through your Kombi valves. If all the above checks out ok- your problem should be solved. My problem was dry rotted vacuum lines. Once I replaced those- I was good to go. No more CEL. I used a Power Probe to power up the smog pump for testing purposes. Also I used a Hand Brake bleeder to pull a vacuum on the vacuum line attached to the Kombi Valve. I tested (1) Kombi Valve at a time.
@uzzle21
@uzzle21 5 жыл бұрын
David Hall i just found out bro its the damn pump bro its causing the air pump check valves not to function properly
@worldpeace5853
@worldpeace5853 2 жыл бұрын
Mine does the whistling/screeching sound under the hood on the 2012 ML350 4Matic. It exists for a few minutes and disappears. It doesn’t come in warm season but always in cold weather starts here in Minnesota. I replaced the serpentine belt but it was of no use. Recently, I got the P2279 vacuum leak error code/check engine light. I replaced the breather/crank case valve along with the 6 intake manifold gaskets with a local mechanic. The error code disappeared but I still get the whistling sound. I started later in the day yesterday and the whistling sound did not come. I researched a bit and found out M276 engine doesn’t come with secondary air pump. I have just given up since this is coming from the last 3 to 4 years but has never troubled me. It’s just irritating when I do cold starts. What do you think might be the issue please???
@carquestions
@carquestions 2 жыл бұрын
Take off the cover - and physically see if you have the air pump as seen in the video - sounds like the problem exactly - cheers!
@YungBlaxTv
@YungBlaxTv 4 жыл бұрын
Is this the same for 2000 S500? I have the same problem but don’t know if it’s the same on all benzs
@carquestions
@carquestions 4 жыл бұрын
If your car whines when first started in the morning then yes - Cheers from Canada!
@YungBlaxTv
@YungBlaxTv 4 жыл бұрын
carquestions it does just that it sounds like a jet for 30 seconds then goes back to normal purring like a cat
@tonykari5124
@tonykari5124 4 жыл бұрын
@@YungBlaxTv thata good then. They all do that for about 65 sec and then get quiet. Unless they r bad the. I'm assuming they stay noisy
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