Carry a Cheap Gun?

[@ericschneider8524]

When you need a firearm to save your life that firearm is priceless.

[@2centsam927]

Any firearm within your reach in your dark hour in need is the one u need

[@sd906238]

Make sure it works and doesn't jam when you need it the most.

[@skipperclinton1087]

@ericschneider: It's the same case as buying a computer that is more than what you need to have. Just because it's expensive doesn't mean it'll do a better job than what it's intended for. BTW, all autos will jam at one time or another no matter how much they cost. If you put your 1st round in the center of mass and you have good placement, you shouldn't need to do a mag dump. These days with CNC machining firearms are well made. Good QC should be a must, too.

[@longgone9869]

@@2centsam927 well I want mine to be a service grade pistol and if they're gonna sue me for shooting someone who pointed a firearm at me, oh well!

[@walkingwolf8072]

By all means buy a 10 grand gun, and lose it by carrying it.(sarcasm)

[@chaseme9860]

There should be a federal law that makes it so a district attorney's office has to pay your legal fees if you win your case, and if a DA delelops a history of frivolous cases, they lose their license. Tort Reform should include frivolous prosecution!

[@EducatedBlackMan]

Won't happen because prosecutors have governmental immunity unless it is a malicious prosecution and sometimes cases can go either way. If you shoot an unarmed person or a person over property you will most likely face criminal charges and civil suits.

[@mikeseier4449]

Yes, But when the government has to pay for something guess whose money it is?….. Yours the taxpayers!😮

[@danielsee1]

The DA might then go out of their way and make sure you don't win.

[@chaseme9860]

@@danielsee1 They already do that. Its literally their job.

[@edb3877]

@@EducatedBlackMan The term "unarmed" is highly subjective, IMO. Is a 6'4" 250 lb. or larger attacker "unarmed" if he is beating the hell out of you? Women can use a gun to successfully defend themselves from such a man in most cases but it's trickier for a man to do the same.

[@stansdds]

Our legal system has made the right of self defense a very expensive thing. It's almost like self defense has become a privilege for the wealthy, not a right of the peasantry.

[@213thAIB]

Spot on.

[@codestools1528]

I didn't pay anything with my case

[@SB-hy9iq]

They made the right to a good defense the same thing. There’s an inherent contradiction when your right to a solid defense is based on what you can afford. The same goes for medical care. To get treatments out of reach for most, such as the new Alzheimer’s drugs, you have to be rich.

[@gheangel_quinn]

Actually, “if” & “when” anything happens, I also do that the old fashioned way too! I’m a adult in sound, mind & body, not a child! I ALL’Ways represent myself Pro’Se! That costs NOTHING!

[@kennithmorella2693]

@@codestools1528THANK YOUR LUCKY 🍀 STARS ⭐️. YOU ARE ONE OF THE FORTUNATE ONES.

[@anangryranger]

I'm going to be very blunt. I'm an old retired peace officer with a few on duty shootings during my career. I was never "relieved" of my weapon after a shooting. The PD knew what I carried and it was their issue ammo used. But a citizen defending himself? Their weapon was always taken as "evidence ", which I always thought was ludicrous! In 1984, a member of our local gun club, was involved in shooting one of two armed suspects that were attempting to rob his pharmacy. He shot one, and we caught the other shortly afterwards. A detective took the revolver from my friend. I immediately went to my unit and came back in, handing my friend my spare S&W mod 19 snubnose and two speedloaders. The detective started to object when the Lt. on the scene told him don't push it, you won't win this. To this day, I've never understood why an honest citizen is deprived of his rights and property when he defends himself or others. And today, that same honest citizen is treated worse than a criminal for doing the right thing! It's not only wrong, it's downright un-American! This country needs some serious attention in putting things right. All politics and no justice.

[@gedocowboy8484]

They disarm the innocent people, while letting criminals out to run rampant. That’s a bad combination.

[@fretworkband3204]

Well said.

[@greyscout01]

Well done, brother blue.

[@mikehannigan848]

A right delayed is a right denied.

[@garypaterson2794]

Amen, God bless you sir 🎅🤠🙏

[@LilYeshua]

In South Carolina once you've been cleared of any wrong doing, South Carolina law prevents any civil law suits against you

[@docbailey3265]

Ditto in Florida.

[@patrickkelly9721]

Carry a quality inexpensive firearm, not a "cheap" firearm.

[@ka-pop2243]

Kind of what I thought. Some lower priced arms makers have stepped up their game in recent years.

[@MaxWray111]

I agree. My EDC is a Taurus G2C I purchased 4 years ago for 250. It had a single cycling issue with the first magazine, and has been flawless since. And I have no issue hitting a man size torso at 50 yards.

[@jasonashley4579]

Taurus 65 made in the late 70's with 125 grain magnums here.

[@ka-pop2243]

@@MaxWray111 Taurus is indeed one of the companies I had in mind when I made my comment.

[@DARTHDANSAN]

Yup

[@rebeccabirchfield5908]

"If it ends up in a police locker for 20 years, that is the least of your worries." Great advice.

[@johngrunwell]

“Life is Good”, but the LAW isn’t! 👎

[@hawkeyeinthehouse2995]

It SEEMS like the LAW does more of protecting the CRIMINALS RIGHTS and NOT THE LAWABIDING CITIZENS RIGHTS, THAT'S F__KED UP!!! THAT NEEDS TO CHANGE!!! 😮😮😢😢

[@sirdudeness1386]

@@hawkeyeinthehouse2995stop voting democrat is the first step. Republicans may not be the solution to all your problems but the democrats are the cause of all your problems.

[@split_ce]

@@hawkeyeinthehouse2995 Yep never vote blue

[@Lurch4539]

​@@hawkeyeinthehouse2995yep. Democrat policies lead to urban hellscape

[@kennethcurtis1856]

I read almost everyday articles of justified self defense shootings.

[@Kd4stt.]

I'm so sick of the United States justice system who favor the criminals over the people who follow civility.

[@proudbirther1998]

Just remember its a KEGAL SYSTEM not a JUSTICE SYSTEM. But the serpents CALL it a Just Us. System to fool the sheeple.

[@flyone8350]

yeah, that justice system sure does favor your loving cops over the people who follow civility.

[@JamesClark-lw6sw]

​@@flyone8350YOU SOUND LIKE A CONVICTED FELON. THOSE COPS ON THE STREET HELP KEEP YOU SAFE ANNARCHIST..

[@expletivedeleted]

Of the elite, by the elite and for the elite. Exactly how the elite Freemasons planned it...by copying the downfall of the 'demokratia'...the representation part!

[@joerodriguez6043]

So you don’t believe in being assumed innocent until proven guilty? This is our system by design and it it imperfect but the best the world has seen. Italy you are assumed guilty until you prove yourself innocent, I’ll take our system.

[@Ron-bo6tb]

Great advice Hickok, I'm 81 and can't believe our justice system today. It used to be innocent until proven guilty, but now it's guilty until proven innocent. I've been around guns my entire life and belonged to several gun clubs over the years, shot skeet and trap. Never seen a gun pick itself up and shoot somebody, lucky I've never had to defend myself, but find myself today worrying about concealed carry or not. Just like you said, you can be defending yourself legally and still have expensive lawyer fees. I hope and pray I live to see this country return to some sanity!!!! God Bless!

[@flyone8350]

it's always been cops and their good friends. The truth has no place in court.

[@eamonnmckeown6770]

America has become a nation of lawyers and not one of men.

[@docbailey3265]

America is now ruled by bat-shit crazy women.

[@nathanbates4276]

Yeah, and look at most of ems last name.

[@CharlesRyan-f3j]

This is a true story. I gave my HK91 and an FN49 to my friend to sell at his table at a Virginia gun show about 15 years ago. The Thursday night before the show, a police officer knocked on his motel room door and asked him to step outside and go to his truck and trailer. The officer said there was a warrant for the owner of the truck out of Florida. The officer arrested my friend and confiscated his truck and trailer with 30 weapons and several thousand dollars in cash. Turns out the warrant was a "clerical error," but it took 6 months to get an order to return firearms and cash. The cash was returned in whole, but half the firearms were missing from the evidence lockup! Turns out police officers had been stealing weapons and selling them. At least two were caught on video at a pawn shop. I lost both weapons. I never heard if they were prosecuted. Live and learn.

[@missmorena1049]

Bastarrds

[@CharlesRyan-f3j]

@missmorena1049 Thank you for that! It's unreal the amount of corruption in government agencies.

[@THORR-mh9px]

You did not have a quality lawyer.

[@CharlesRyan-f3j]

@@THORR-mh9px True, "Quality" attorneys are few and far between.

[@mikepraed4623]

$$$$lawyer$$$$ > $guns$ ​@@THORR-mh9px

[@titaniumgreen5367]

Defending your life against a criminal, then defending your freedom against the courts afterwards.."life is good" until.....................

[@CamBridge-ii9mu]

In Canada it is 100X worse..

[@OnePotMeals]

How many times have you experienced that?

[@nate.leal.]

Yep. Understandably, even law abiding citizens have a good reason for fleeing a scene.

[@MDR-hn2yz]

In some places fleeing the scene will complicate any self defense claim you make.

[@WheelgunsOnWheels]

Great advice Hickok. I agree 100%. Your carry gun’s cost is a drop in the ocean compared to what lies ahead after a self defense shooting.

[@swhite10539]

Excellent advice. I fully agree with you. Get a gun you trust, can shoot, and will do the job. Recovery of the gun comes later. If it is justified, you should get it back eventually. Even Rittenhouse got his gun back at the end of his trial.

[@YellowjacketGTO]

As he should have.

[@skipperclinton1087]

​@YellowjacketGTO: He also had lawyers, and they aren't cheap. He had financial backing, or he'd never have gotten it back on his own. Look at those two lawyers in wherever it was. The law was written as a stand your ground but they lost their firearms and were prosecuted too by a woke DA and the woke crowd.

[@YellowjacketGTO]

@@skipperclinton1087 It was also not an average situation. Not comparable to a simple self defence situation. The issue is the cost its a lot. Period.

[@matthorrocks6517]

Rittenhouse trial was a show trial. You can't use that as a basis of what the standard trial would be.

[@stormlakebobcat9058]

Thought that Finger Banger (DA) had the S&W destroyed

[@drunk_by_noon9231]

On the topic of a cheap firearms, the the thing I hate the most to hear is when people say it's not a big deal if the gun gets lost or stolen. You should always do everything you can to make sure your firearm never leaves your possession, no matter how much it cost.

[@charlesshirk8699]

Tulsa, Oklahoma. A fellow that lived up the street shot a person on two different occasions in the 2010s. It both happened in his house. Each person had broken into the house. The first time the intruder was shot six times by a .22 and ran from the house. He survived and the police found him at the hospital, and he ended up serving several years in prison. The second the intruder was shot once by a 9mm and died in the house. Both times the homeowner was questioned by police. He answered their questions without a lawyer. He was not arrested or charged. As far as civil litigation, the homeowner was out of work, broke and there was already a lien on his property. There was no money to be had, no one bothered to sue.

[@ronie1337]

Agree, I wasn't sure about the what if's and now I know. 100 G's even if the shooting was justifiable. Holy Crap! This message needs to get out because I believe there's a lot of guys who don't know this.

[@YellowjacketGTO]

Several hundred win or lose.

[@John-d7p]

I do a version of that: I used to carry a couple different guns going back 30 years that have become special interest guns, and I don't want to risk them. So, they are retireed to the gun safe, and I now carry a generic 9mm that retails for less then $450. It's ultra reliable, made by S&W, almost as concealable, so it fits the parameters - but is not a lesser firearm. I have no suggestions about the corruption of our social mores that allow the relatives of a useless parasite to sue someone for defending their own life. Like Big Pharma, Big Med, and Big Gov, I can only say that Big Law has left the People behind.

[@KyleRS877]

SD9VE? I have one and it fits the bill. 1000% reliable and trust my life with it if need be. I love that thing.

[@boonedog1457]

Carry what you practice with!!!

[@georgevanaken925]

😶👍

[@jackwillson8099]

So true knifes bats sticks & shoes clothes are important too

[@georgevanaken925]

@@jackwillson8099 Also, a good breakfast. A good breakfast is important. 👍

[@jackwillson8099]

@@georgevanaken925 lol

[@richardkellar9259]

A VERY good point! What is a shame is, if you defend yourself, YOU are initially, AS guilty as the perpetrators!

[@michaelfinney2160]

It’s really sad if you try to protect yourself and your family you get in a mess / If you don’t try to protect yourself and your family you’re still in a mess if something happens ! 😢 Crooked law and government when the criminals end up with more protections and rights than the truly innocent !

[@disturbedmaynard3873]

Defending yourself in today's world is not just done with boolets. You have to have money, an attorney, and a judge that respects The Constitution.

[@wasntmeXYZ]

You are 100% correct ✅ in what you’re “ advising “ folks to do. You can replace a firearm very easily but your life, not so much. God forbid that any of us are placed in a situation where we need to resort to using deadly force to defend ourselves or our loved ones I know I hope I never do. Having said that if the moment arrives then I want the best defensive tool that money can buy.

[@G.I.JeffsWorkbench]

Excellent advice. While I respect and appreciate your reluctance to give advice, this needed to be said. The old timey adage “you get what you pay for” still applies. Get the best tool you can afford to get the job done, and learn how to use it properly. Buy once, cry once. Don’t bet your life on a budget firearm. Firearms are like parachutes, if you need one & don’t have it (or it fails to function at the critical moment), you’ll probably never need one again.

[@2greeksandacamera]

You’re so right! To carry a cheap gun is being penny-wise and pound-foolish. It’s your life!

[@michaeltaylor4984]

@2greeksandacamera When I was in college funds were tight, very tight. I bought a Charter Arms Bulldog. 44 at a gunshot. Rusty, scratched to shit, etc, etc for 50 bucks. Accurate, powerful and fired when it was told to. Inever felt helpless while carrying it. Sometimes cheap is all you need.

[@xTheSmokingBarrelx]

Inexpensive can still be reliable. When he says cheap it means a firearm thats made of junk.

[@paulsimmons5726]

The chances of being involved in a self defense shooting, very low… The chances of needing a reliable firearm once the shooting begins, very high! Carry a reliable firearm; model and caliber are secondary to reliability!

[@larryminton2670]

Also, one that you can shoot well and meets your needs and use the best defensive ammunition

[@thomaspalmer7900]

My Springfield Armory Echelon is my go to EDC pistol. Fantastic pistol.

[@skipperclinton1087]

Reliable doesn't equates to expensive either. Just don't be foolish enough to carry on an empty chamber. All you need is a Reliable enough weapon that drops the hammer when you pull the trigger and don't use cheap, old or handloaded ammo. There's a reason the military sells off their ammo once it gets to Their own expiration date.

[@Daunderdogggg]

I wouldn’t say very low. Btw a NFL player got shot today, Ricky Pearsall

[@JSmith-ou3sk]

I got advice from someone that had to defend themselves. They suggested getting a 2nd gun that was exactly like your carry gun. Not a bad idea if you can afford it.

[@evaneason6906]

Or better yet have a buddy with the same gun and swap barrels.

[@YellowjacketGTO]

​@@evaneason6906Lol nothing to swap after your weapon is taken in as evid. Trying to hide something will get a man into far deeper trouble.

[@douglasphillips24]

Agreed. I carry a Glock Gen 5 26 and love it but going to trade for another 26 Gen 5 or preferably Gen 3 26 if can find one.

[@tylerwill5250]

Swap barrels? This aint CSI buddy 😂

[@YellowjacketGTO]

@@tylerwill5250 If its too hide something not a great idea. Learn Use Of Force law cold. Protect yourself in on the street and the courtroom.

[@armedprophet3321]

Not here in Florida. We are a stand your ground state and if it is a “righteous “ shooting you cannot BY FLORIDA LAW, be taken and sued in civil court by either the family members or the bad guy if he survives. They will confiscate your firearm for ballistic testing to make sure it was that particular firearm that was actually used but after the DA says it was a clean shooting you get your firearm back and that usually takes a couple of months here in Lee county Florida. So not all states are the same.

[@Leonard-t6b]

@@armedprophet3321 Ohio is the same!

[@oldcop18]

As a retired cop who survived a gunfight I wholeheartedly agree w/Hickok here. My EDC is a 340PD that cost me plenty many years ago and I carry it b/c it’s the best that suits my needs.

[@hellasboy8243]

Sorry, when I read stuff like this from cops or retired cops it drives me nuts. 340pd? When did you retire, 1978? Plenty of compact,concealable guns with more capacity, easier to shoot, reload and more potent ballistics. Stop handicapping yourself and upgrade. Not saying you are, but , too many cops are stuck in their ancient ways or too cheap to buy new, better guns. I carry a Sig 365 with an RDS and a light in an appendix carry with a reload, infinity more capable platform than a 5 shot snubbie .38..and I still shoot every other month or more. I use to own a 340pd many years ago, I was handicapping myself with the current threats of multiple offenders with full auto flocks and ar pistols. I would carry my rifle if I had a reliable one at to secure it in my vehicle....And yes I shot my revolver great and practiced speed reloading. Stop kidding yourself. Signed: retired Chicago cop.

[@Someguy0525]

@@hellasboy8243Don’t try pushing your polymer on everyone else, if he wants to carry a 5 shot 38 let him, most self defense shootings are over within 3 shots, I carry a 5 shot 44 special and I never feel under gunned.

[@TheRobman139]

@@hellasboy8243Some people just like revolvers and there’s nothing wrong with that. Back in March some 85-year-old woman in Idaho took out a home intruder with two shots from her .357 Magnum revolver. He had a 9mm auto and in the exchange hit her four times. She lived, he didn’t. One size doesn’t fit all and of course it depends on your lifestyle and your environment. For some people a high capacity auto with all the gadgets makes sense. For others a revolver will work well.

[@CharlesRyan-f3j]

​@TheRobman139 Yes, a tricked out 365 is great, but twice as heavy, and it's not a 357 for sure!

[@markculbertson6757]

Hickok and I respect you not being a guy that pushes his opinion as always and I hope you and your family are doing well

[@DC9716]

It's all about lawyers, and money in their pockets. They are the ones that made it this way.

[@davidcbrainard]

Excellent advice. Carry something you can depend on and are good with. Your life is worth it.

[@michaelpage4199]

Right on point. Great advise. I belong to a national defense program but I pray I never need to use it.

[@edkubinski]

That's the great thing about living in a desert. No body... No crime.

[@slatsgrobneck7515]

SSS :)

[@90whatever]

Same in northeastern Wisconsin. DUI and poaching/fishing violations are the main crimes.

[@michaeltaylor4984]

Having hogs helps, too

[@elultimo102]

It looks like I might need a backhoe someday. 😃😃😃

[@georgevanaken925]

Born and raised in Arizona. Best advice ever? Pre dig your holes. 😶

[@MarkM-ke6cn]

God Bless the Patriot. I pray you never have to draw your weapon in defense of those you love.

[@edb3877]

Yes, I do too. But if I have to do that and end up in prison because of it, I'm willing to do that to save them.

[@expletivedeleted]

Carried by 6 or judged by 12...a choice.

[@deniswauchope3788]

Good advice! I reckon that the most reliable firearm that I can shoot the best is the one to carry. I work in a gun store/range, and I've seen people carry little tiny guns (for concealability) but they can't hit the paper on the target 5 yds away. I've seen others carry massive, heavy .45s or 10mm (for stopping power) when it's too much gun for the person shooting it & the recoil about knocks them over. Again, not great accuracy. The gun I carry retails for around $650 and I can shoot it well, which is why it's my EDC gun.

[@beninidaho]

Great points. And the fact is that there are MANY modern guns that are both reliable and reasonably priced. My EDC is an $800 Shadow Systems, but I just bought an SA XDm Elite on sale at Sportsmans Warehouse for $350. It is a great gun and I would have zero problems with it as a daily carry defensive gun, and in fact rely on a 10MM XDm Elite as my bear protection gun when out in BFE. Not to be a Hi Point basher, but it's not that hard to get a reliable defensive gun for not much more, even if it's a Glock police trade-in rather than a new in the box Glock.

[@jbro4779]

Just like in karate, the rule of thumb is to avoid confrontation at all cost.

[@gothivore277]

Too bad in this day and age you have an entire generation plus illegal Allen’s who have nothing to do but go looking for trouble

[@RobertsIslandLivingAdventures]

Because you could be the best fighter, but slip and fall on your face, knocking yourself out. I’ve seen it. 😂

[@expletivedeleted]

Bruce Lee's #1 rule...run like hell...if you can...!

[@jdawgpimpdaddyc4374]

Sometimes. It's unavoidable. Say your in a store. Waiting in line. Somebody comes in with gun drawn on the clerk. What u doing? U gonna draw your weapon, and be a "Hero"? Or are u gonna let him rob the store and leave? Unless he has the firearm pointed at u. And is threatening u. U will lose the case. And u will be Locked up. The prosecutor will do anything ti put u away. It's there job. Useless DB's

[@RobertsIslandLivingAdventures]

@@jdawgpimpdaddyc4374 yep, depends on the state. In California, it’s going to be tough, in Texas, not so much. Someone recently told me it would cost $100k to defend myself in California.

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

If your gun is taken as evidence and you never get it back, then YOU SURVIVED. You survived a very rare and terrible life-threatening situation because your tool did its job. You are incredibly fortunate if all it costs you is a handgun. On the other hand, what does the $100 you saved matter if it costs you your life? This is like trying to save money on an ejection seat. If you ever have to use it, it's saving your life. It's worth whatever it costs.

[@Saintlawrence100]

One of the best videos you posted…taking care of your followers with solid advice..thanks for this…sharing it..everywhere…

[@engagedrandomcitizen561]

This something to have on your mind before inserting yourself into someone else's problems...

[@markpickett3512]

Hickock places this whole subject into extreme clarity and sharp, practical perspective. He's correct, as usual. Something to consider might be to have some form of concealed carry insurance if you can get it and afford it. Consulting with and retaining an attorney BEFORE you need one is also worth considering, especially if you need to be armed day-to-day. I realize this all runs into considerable money. But, staying out of jail and/or bankruptcy......priceless.

[@ballistic_mod]

He's right, also may I suggest Attorneys on Retainer, they are better than any firearms self defense insurance.

[@oneofmanyte3321]

Just make sure you have a witness or witnesses to help you.

[@barryweaver6834]

Do you know a rough estimate of what it costs for Attorneys on Retainer?

[@KyleRS877]

@@barryweaver6834it’s actually pretty darn reasonable. They have info on their website

[@paulbervid1610]

Great conversation

[@wftyler9680]

Great, *VERY* practical advice HIckok. Thanks for providing context and wisdom to the self-defense discussion.

[@johnwurfel2862]

Most crimes go unsolved, even on camera.

[@rossclay3317]

Spot on! Thank you for sharing your advice on this issue Most excellent!

[@eosjoe565]

I assumed when folks talk about a "cheap" gun they are advising that it's not necessary to carry a $5000 Wilson Combat custom or similar. Reliability is the key as is your ability to operate the gun fast and efficiently. That can easily be accomplished with a Glock, Sig, S&W, etc. If something like that gets taken you can easily go to the store and simply get another one just like it.

[@dylanholbrook6239]

Correct

[@johndemeen5575]

My Tisas, Model 1911, A1US Army 45 cal. Wood grips. Never leave home without it. Million thanks for everything you do. St. Paul, Minnesota.

[@andycole5957]

I totally agree. You should only be using a gun in self defense when it is life and death; life and death reliability, and life and death accuracy. If you don't trust your gun to go bang when you pull the trigger every single time, then you are gambling with your life. If you carry an inaccurate gun then you are gambling that you will actually shoot the right person, and not an innocent person instead, or that you will miss the right person and your chance at defending yourself. As the saying has always said, carry what you trust and can shoot well; however, probably don't carry a priceless artifact that can never be replaced, save that for a place of respect, not used as a tool.

[@slcgrgcrgcaneafgugiesclawhfg]

At Yosemite we had someone base jumping off El Capitain. They knew their parachute would be confiscated by police as soon as they were on the ground, so they used a cheap one. And they did confiscate the parachute - after the Coroner was done. It didn't work.

[@ClergetMusic]

In my state if the police determine that your actions were justifiable, you are immune from prosecution, including civil suits.

[@bobhicks2418]

State? Code citation?

[@bobbyb7127]

What state is that?

[@ClergetMusic]

@@bobbyb7127 IN. There is a document called the “Gun Owners Bill of Rights” that spells it all out. It was produced and disseminated by the IN attorney general.

[@ClergetMusic]

@@bobhicks2418 Indiana. Code citation: 35-41-3-2.

[@bobhicks2418]

@@ClergetMusic Thank You

[@spacecoyote6646]

A gun will get you into more trouble than it will get you out of

[@19jake23]

A man should carry the most reliable gun he can. You can't put a price on your life. Just my humble opinion. Thank you Hickok.

[@ralphsawyer9535]

Good topic and some good points made. I enjoyed this short "talks".

[@USMC-Sniper-0137]

I favor my Bersa Thunder PLUS .380! A very fine gun for around $300!!

[@almanji8046]

You carry what you can afford and train with. God bless. 💯🙂👊👍✌️👌🙏🙏🙏

[@ClayCastleberry]

Same rules Cops have within 21' should apply to all but sadly that's not the case! Sound advice from a wise man! 🇺🇸👍

[@grumpyoldretiredcop8382]

You're right on point. Don't carry an inexpensive handgun because it's cheap... carry it because it works for you. I carry the best item I can, accepting that if I'm involved in an incident it might languish in an evidence room - or may not given where I live. I was involved in an incident in the past before working in law enforcement and had my firearm returned months later in a paper bag even though I never fired a shot. Small potatoes compared to everything else that went on.

[@PaulPitcher-z7n]

I value your opinion. Your channel has the best content…thanks

[@Mr.SharkTooth-zc8rm]

Well stated Big Dawg. Unfortunately we as a country are moving faster and faster away from "Land of the free, home of the brave..."

[@BlueCollarDude101]

Attorneys on Retainer

[@Bayan1905]

As a retired LEO I get asked a lot what is a good carry gun that doesn't cost a fortune, and I tell people if they can't afford a good NEW gun not to be afraid to look around for a used gun. Myself, I often carry nothing more than a Smith & Wesson J frame .38 that I got 3-4 years back for about $250 because it was used and is an older gun from the 70's but it works perfectly fine. Yes, spend good money on a handgun, learn to shoot it and shoot it well and to go along with the legal stuff, read all the self defense laws in your state so that you can get a step ahead in case something happens if you have to use that gun.

[@hobo1452]

The value of my EDC has never even been a consideration. Accuracy, functional reliability, and how well I shoot with it are the only factors that matter to me. I carry to preserve my life and, if necessary, the lives of others. You can't put a price tag on that.

[@douglasmolt2046]

As Always, great advice. Mine would be to also join a concealed carry organization as many of those offer some sort of legal assistance.

[@tomf1408]

How in the hell did we get to this point, where in if you shoot somebody who busted a window, and came into your home unannounced, with the intent on hurting you and your family. And by the way everything is on your security camera that shows you had the legal right to defend your home and your family, but yet you still have to pay these outrageous legal fees to keep you out of jail???

[@markej4801]

As always, your logic is well founded. Keep up the great thoughts.

[@brassmonkey7566]

Talk sir Talk I have large ears to listen with. I hope and pray it never happens but ! Practice train Talk to the next lane.

[@Moroni108]

Pure and simple, very wise advice. I agree. How much is your life worth? It's not like a situation like that happens often. Hopefully never, and most likely so. But when it does, you want something reliable and something you train and qualify with. How much is your life, your family's life or innocent 3rd party's life worth? It's not like you won't get your piece back once the situation has cleared.

[@ronie1337]

Oh and BTW! If you think having CCW insurance your good to go, Think Again. Have you ever had to deal with insurance companies? The salesman is your very best friend when you hand over your insurance payment to them. See how they treat you when you have to make a claim. There's a loop-hole in the fine print somewhere on "claim payouts".

[@timburton9514]

Amen! Well said. Your insurance is only as good as your insurance agent.

[@Leonard-t6b]

Use Carry Safe!!

[@larryfloyd5487]

Take that money and put it back for a lawyer you know because most people will never use that membership! I can call my personal lawyer and he’s going to work asap and he’s local and I know him and his team!

[@Aampiano]

Thank you for taking the time to talk about common sense and how it relates to selecting a pistol.

[@williambarry8015]

You got to be in tip top shape upstairs if you carry. If you ain't that thing will get you into more trouble than it will get you out of.

[@Amir_Nassir]

define tip top

[@andycole5957]

I guess the real question is if you think, in the worst case, that prison is worse than death? I'd rather be alive in prison, with hope of getting out one day, than dead in the gutter.

[@celestialyidum]

Absolutely 100%

[@YellowjacketGTO]

​@@Amir_NassirHaving a great knowledge base on Use of Force law.

[@fumrious]

🎶Don’t take your guns to town🎶

[@oldmangreywolf6892]

I got my Ruger security 9 for carry. Once a week I put a magazine through it to make sure it functions.

[@jbrase2000]

That is about the best argument I have heard against carrying.

[@Jw-iu2el]

​@@jasonscott6174 which is what they are going for

[@Jw-iu2el]

​@@jasonscott6174 that's what they want

[@rcruz003]

Solid advice having just gone through an attempted robbery which fortunately no shots were fired. They ran off PD called etc. The legal process will bankrupt you. Good advice Hickok.

[@exiledintheus7251]

Still best gun channel on the net!

[@bentoncushing8693]

Great show,,,,thanks for another good one...

[@lanedexter6303]

Inexpensive guns are more important to achieving the societal goal “…that every man be armed.” But if I have to defend myself with a $4,000 gun, that price is small potatoes compared to what I’ll spend staying out of jail. I’ll carry what works for me, and what I can work effectively. Wise words, Hickok.👍

[@mrelectron6220]

I really doubt a $4000 firearm is going to be anymore lethal than a $500 firearm. Spend what you want on it but I see no need to pay $4000 to find a reliable firearm most in the $4000 range are safe queens that people pull out to show off not carry for EDC.

[@billmoyer3254]

There's no reason to spend a lot to get a reliable firearm. That ship has sailed in the past decade. Stop the gibberish. You're pegging the BS meter.

[@lanedexter6303]

@@mrelectron6220 No, my MR73 was not necessary. It was a choice, because I wanted a “forever K-frame.”. But it is a very functional arm (ask GIGN and a number of dead terrorists). I’m just saying that if it was what I had on the day I needed to defend myself, the $4,400 and change I sent Bud’s for the gun would be of little import. The amount going to legal fees would most likely be vastly greater.

[@ronmccants8678]

I agree with part of what you’re saying, I usually agree with much of your logic as we are close in age. In the mid 80’s I had a firearm taken from me by the police. In California at the time being in possession of a gun ( right or wrong) had me detained for 72 hours and required to participate as part of a photo lineup. Upon my release I asked for my firearm and I can still hear them laughing. I asked if I had a right to have my gun returned and they explained that in order for that to happen, I would have to hire an attorney to petition the court for the release of the gun. The officer explained that they really didn’t like giving guns back as every gun they got off the streets was a good thing and they purposely make it expensive and time consuming. I’m a firearms lover and collector, I also carry concealed. This is the only reason I own a polymer micro 9 that I lovingly refer to as my “ throw away “ I know that for any reason I should become separated from my firearm, at least it ain’t one of my custom 1911’s. I feel a lot better with my prized possessions safely tucked away in my safe and not exposed to things like theft, physical damage or confiscation, that’s really all of those plastic guns (coming from a Fudd)😂 Kinda like disposable lighters and a real Zippo. One you don’t mind losing the other has your initials engraved on it. Really enjoy your content as always I think maybe I haven’t agreed with you 100% , then again when have you ever known a discussion about firearms ever being anything but subjective.

[@davidascher1801]

Well, up here we don't even have the right to self defense. Without victims there's no need for law enforcement so... Be careful out there.

[@MrRAGE-md5rj]

Laws that don't serve the public's interest are laws that aren't worth being written on toilet paper.

[@erik_dk842]

Hogs are omniwores

[@peteschiavoni]

When I started carrying in early 90’s I was given that same advice. Get the best gun you can afford and practice and make sure it’s reliable.

[@lkj0822g]

I understand the sentiment of not wanting to lose a firearm to the legal system, so you probably don't want to carry Grandpa's pistol that you inherited. That said, if you find yourself in a Stuff-Hits-The-Fan situation, you don't want to worry about "You know, this thing stovepipes every third shot or so". Fortunately, there are plenty of "value" guns in today's market that provide reliability at an affordable price so you don't have to "cheap out" with your or your loved ones safety.

[@falcon3719]

Great advice, sir. An employee at the range has a Shaddow Systems gun. Similar to a Glock 19. He said if your gun is confiscatied in a righteous shoot, Shaddow will replace it for free. I don't know if this is still true. I didn't purchase it, but it shot pretty well.

[@ClayCastleberry]

Still it's better to be tried by 12 than carried by six.

[@1czechit1]

The twelve will send you to the Six if you are not careful. Better yet read books on self defense and the law and previous cases to know what is and isn't allowed, acceptable... to juries.

[@ethanking4954]

No guns in prison and a lot of criminals

[@1czechit1]

@@ethanking4954 they have spoons.

[@90whatever]

@@1czechit1Great advice. Have pepper spray so you have an option between words and lethal force.

[@90whatever]

And legal defense protection

[@kellywelch3]

Spot on Man! I didn't even watch this whole video. Carry the best you can to defend yourself. That other mindset is materialistic. That's a stupid thing to do.

[@steven.h0629]

Sound advice 👍😎✊

[@ssr4656]

Well said Sir, ex law enforcement here! and I agree 100%, lots of citizens carrying that have no idea what happens after a justifiable shooting!

[@michaeldinardo2519]

Carry what you want. I belong to 2 organizations that provide insurance in a self defense situation. The monthly membership fees are worth it... at least to me. We see police that are backed by unions and public provided attorneys and they still end up in prison. Do your research and make your own decision.

[@chipngo9758]

Woah that's a good advice here. Thanks.

[@KyleRS877]

What companies? I’m in the market now and appreciate any input

[@jack_konte]

I agree. Carry what you can afford and what you are comfortable using to protect yourself. Your safety and the safety of your family is more important that the value of the firearm you carry and when it will be returned.

[@johnathansaegal3156]

0:50 ... if a Hi-Point is all you can afford, do it. If you have several hundred dollars, buy the best gun you can afford. It's your LIFE on the line and if a $700 pistol ends up in a police locker, yet you are alive because the weapon saved your life, that beats being dead with your cheap gun in the police locker.

If the shoot is justified and or you are found innocent in most States they have to give it back.. If they arrest you and you are released on bail they won't allow you to have any guns till after the trial which could take a couple years.. I knew a guy in this situation that the judge ordered all his weapons confiscated so they took his entire $30k collection including knives, swords and black powder scale model canon.. Just sick because they fabricated a lesser charge and the jury convicted him so he never got anything back thus forfeiting all that monetary value..

[@TinMan0555]

LEO for 45 years. Firearms Instructor for 35 of those. I have always advised everyone to carry an affordable, proven, reliable gun and practice with it often. I have friends that belong to what we call “ the gun of the month club”. They always want the latest whiz-bang booolit slinger on the market. A bunch of these folks have their “summertime EDC gun” their “wintertime EDC gun” their church gun (often kept in a hollowed out bible) their “BBQ gun” (those are the ones with the fancy tooled belt and holsters). And often times, each of these guns is a different make and model. Many years ago I decided that I would always carry the same gun. After a time it became apparent that it would be a Glock. Many factors were considered with the overriding theme being all Glocks handle the same way. They are as accurate as the person holding them is, concealable, very reliable, affordable and almost indestructible. The indestructible part references the fact that I carry one in my waistband every day, year round. Sweat on it, drag it thru the weeds or mud, it does not care and will go bang every single time. I have never considered Glocks to be a downgrade. Having said this, understand one thing…..if your firearm is collected as “evidence”, it WILL be stored in a bag, sitting in a locker, still covered in whatever “fluids” and “other materials” that it may have been subjected to during the incident. We will NOT clean it or knowingly change its condition in any manner. It will remain in that condition for as long as it takes for whatever legal process to get finished. If a grand jury issues a no-bill, you could get in weeks or months. The finding of a true-bill means it could sit in that locker for years till that trial process is completed. So, if you wanna spend thousands of dollars on a carry gun, knock yourself out…..just understand what will likely happen if (God forbid) you ever have to use it. After all it’s your money. But for those that have followed my advice. We will hand over our “evidence” gun….and then go home and take its twin out of the safe and continue with our lives. 🫡

[@paulis7319]

Great advice! My first carry gun a couple years ago was the Hi-Point C9...not because I was being cheap, but because I was inexperienced and just wanted to start carrying without spending a bunch of money (and the store owner told me it's a good one). A couple months later I learned more and "upgraded" to the basic Taurus GX4, which I still carry and practice with today. If either ever ends up in a police locker, I could care less because that means I'm still alive, and that's the whole point of carrying a gun. My next carry gun will be another GX4, but with a red dot optic and light...been practicing lately with the tritium sights at night and these old eyes could really use a good red dot and light (have both on my rifle and the difference is amazing).

[@Axepro24]

The chances of you actually using your firearm is slim to none..... avoiding situations and circumstances is your best bet...be proactive not reactive

[@joerodriguez6043]

Finally, common sense

[@BenjaMin-ju4ji]

It’s already expensive in California to obtain a carry permit can’t imagine cheap if out on the handgun. Plus we’re limited to 10rds max.

[@hawkeyeinthehouse2995]

Thank you for that important information !!! I'm a 72 year old with health problems and a knee injury (torn cartilage and stretched ligaments back in 1983) so I REALLY don't have the OPTION OF RUNNING AWAY, CAN HARDLY WALK AND STAND FOR VERY LONG!!! WHAT HAS THIS COUNTRY COME TO THAT A LAWABIDING CITIZENS HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION ABOUT WHETHER TO PROTECT THEMSELVES FROM CAREER CRIMINALS OR LET THEM PERMANENTLY SERIOUSLY INJURE OR POSSIBLY KILL ME!!! THAT'S F__KED UP MAN!!! WHO SAID CRIME DOESN'T PAY??!!! I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT PROTECTING MY LIFE FROM SOME "LOW LIFE SCUMBAG" and PROTECTING MYSELF "IN COURT" COULD FINANCIALLY CRIPPLE ME, THAT'S "OUTRAGEOUS" THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY, I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK FROM THE CRIMINALS!!!😮😮😢😢

[@kevingary7018]

Thanks for all the good advice provided over the years - it's better to learn from the experience of others, than by making the mistakes yourself. When I was a much younger man, people called cheap guns Saturday Night Specials. Most were cheaply made, small caliber revolvers. I enjoy carrying a small Sig P365 in an Alabama Holster in my pant's pocket. The weapon is actually a little smaller than I care for, but it is reliable, which I believe should be a major concern for anyone carrying a firearm. The price was right too! I have not yet used it in self defense. I live in a blue state with a duty to retreat - so I purchased insurance from US Law Shield in the event I require legal assistance from an attorney.

[@gheangel_quinn]

Can’t get any cheaper than ol’ Reliable Glock on Lock. My rule of thumb is… be ready to get touched before it’s your turn

[@ssnerd583]

My G3C has proved to be very reliable and as accurate as I will ever be.... and its disposable. win-win

[@gheangel_quinn]

@@ssnerd583 thats Great for you!☺️ As for me, I’ve no need to boast up’on my precision shooting abilities, which came naturally. It’s a bloodline thing and runs thru the family actually. In fact, quite a while back when my grandfather was alive, and in the military… he was invited one day with his boss, the Chiefs Sargent (my grandfather being a master sergeant) to go to the shooting range, and learn to shoot a gun. My grandfather had never shot a gun before that day, but he blew the socks off of everybody at the range. Let’s just say that he became a sniper trainer almost overnight. My uncle also discovered unexpectedly/accidentally the first time he went shooting. He did not miss hitting anything whatsoever. Coincidentally, there was somebody else there shooting at the Range, who witnessed my uncles decision shooting ability, he had just learned himself. Well that somebody else that was there a shooting just so happen to be not just a member, but also a recruiter for the very well known group, known as the Native Tribe of Shooters. He’s still a member of that group to this day. As for me , I also learned unexpectedly/accidentally that I am a precision shooter too. Although as for me., I wasn’t at a shooting range. I was at a long time friend of the family’s property, who lives way way out of Spokane county. In fact, this friend turned his property into what we refer to as the ghetto shooting range because it’s free and nobody pays to play with their things! Although this friend, who turned a bunch of his owned terrain into a ghetto shooting range, is also highly skilled himself. In fact, he is a 35 year retired sharpshooter trainer, so he follows all the laws and ordinances up-to-date. I had never been shooting prior to the invite I received to come shoot with him and see his new property/Land he purchased after retiring from sharp shooting. At that time, I never even owned a gun, Knorr had even ever shot one in my life. Let’s just say that he started me with the LR 22 something a little bit less kickish but still with some thrust and learning aim. The very first shot I took, was a half hit because it hit the target but just didn’t fully hit it and knock it over. I aimed the rifle again pulled the trigger and BOOM…. Like magic spot on! My friend, the retired sharpshooter trainer, looked at me and asked me “are you sure you’ve never been shooting?” I replied “100% positive, you copy Roger?” he laughed and had me aim for a target placed much farther away than the 1st. He taught me how to load the rifle, sim & shoot. Twas’ one hitter quitter, the litter of spitters. My friend than said, your fibbing me! There is no way you have never shot anything. I replied “it’s true. I have no reason to lie to you! I have nothing to gain! At this point, he sent his wife to go inside their house and grab his Glock 45. He showed me how to load a pistol safely and then I again blew him, my boyfriend, at the time, and myself away! At that point, my friend, the retired, sharpshooter trainer, threw off his cap onto the ground and said “I give up, where is your hidden camera?” Of course I didn’t bring one because I had no idea I had such precision aim. Throughout the rest of the day, I shot a few different things. Of course, my boyfriend at the time didn’t wanna shoot anything after learning about my precision aiming ability. So he just sat out and watched me work magically. My uncle and I have spoken a lot about both of our natural precision, aiming ability. I’ve reach the conclusion, that it is I come from a family of Angelic Beings😇 with Angelic Genes🧬. The reason for this is because three of our ancestors were wrongfully accused and executed. In her’story! Let’s just say that my ancestors basically ended the Jerusalem (Salem) witch trials entirely. The entire town and community became so angry at our government for the wrongful executions of my Ancestry back in 1692. The entire town/community loved my ancestors because they lived on a big farm, which they maintained. On that big farm they grew lots of herbs. Herbs that they used to cure everybody for free holistically of everything. My ancestors were Rebecca Nurse and her two sisters, Mary Eastey, and Sarah Cloyce. Yes, they all three had different last names because they were all 3 married with children already (which is why I am here today). Rebecca Nurse is my direct ancestor. The children, her and Francis created, lived on as Rebecca’s living Legacy.

[@mikecollins8241]

Best RELIABLE and affordable gun you can afford.. I recently started carrying a Taurus G2C (9mm 12 rds) as my main gun. I ran 200+ rounds thru it to break it in/ test reliability and now have 100% faith in it ;)

[@wissn2112]

Have as well. But the trigger breaks way farther back than 365xl. Plus the XL is slimmer and I prefer the grip and trigger. The g2c makes a great hide out or spare Gun. I have the older pt140 and pt111 as well. The mag release button once got bumped and the mag fell out. I don't see that happening this easy with the Sig or a glock. That's my only complaint about them.