Carry Tierlist for 7.37b!

[@RobbieRobski]

Glad you got the channel back. The@ for your channel still shows up as the high jackers name

[@froge_]

glad you got your channel back bsj

[@historiasangey1384]

He is finally recovered his account

[@thatguywiththeface9463]

Lina Dota 2: glass cannon spellcaster, high spell damage, but easy to kill. Lina Dota 3: Super tanky (3k+ HP mid game thanks to gleipnir + satanic + hurricane pike), with high scaling auto attacks and spell damage + we gave her +35% magic resistance on top of her built in intelligence based spell resistance at level 15 because fuck you that's why.

[@abeth1518]

I remember Lina as a dog shit support, with a clunky stun

[@thatguywiththeface9463]

@@abeth1518 You're right, her stun was unreliable since it was short ranged, had a long cast delay. Almost guaranteed to feed as a support.

[@mtg1074]

The beauty of Dota2: Bloodseeker is D tier for BSJ and almost S tier for Speeeed. Medusa is C tier for BSJ and the best carry of the patch for Speeeed. I'm not confused at all.

[@nltiro3387]

Bsj goes off dota2protracker, I think speed aims for the AVG dota player where blood and medusa are better

[@Cgwi]

Bloodseeker is fing trash wtf

[@raflyarafat4882]

I'll trust BSJ more than speeeed. I don't trust clickbaits that are posted every 2 days

[@mikemike6182]

Bloodseeker & medusa is bad overall, no matter the patch. It's consider cheese carry, cheese carry always cheese. If there's am or pl, u pick bs, if there's no am or pl, u pick medusa.

[@sohanbiswas3647]

Listening to speeed was the mistake

[@epicstudios142536]

I think ur underrating carry SF. Comes online really fast farms really fast and just shits out damage. Has 53% winrate on d2pt. Probably B tier .

[@andrewburrows7711]

easy to counter with a disable like orchid or thorn

[@UphillHook]

​@@andrewburrows7711 what SF carry gets manta bkb and just right clicks you. Carry sf doesn't go the magic build

[@epicstudios142536]

@@andrewburrows7711 carry sfs build mantas satanics bkbs and silver edges

[@lazylonewolf]

Oh thank goodness, you're starting to get the channel back from those damn hackers

[@Nasgatemk2]

My hot take is that PA is underperforming because the new facet is a trap option. Not only is the crit damage drastically nerfed for the facet, the pseudo rng of her crit means you crit before 6 attacks anyway. High level players like to avoid rng but this is an instance where that instinct is making them perform worse.

[@mylostisaac6452]

Glad to have you back!

[@TruePower44]

damn, great production quality of this tier list video.

[@LulzTVx]

4 billion light years ago is criminal

[@DrHydroxide]

"light years" is a measure of distance, not time

[@krampus6402]

​@@DrHydroxidea ago fcray 2

[@CptVein]

Gleipnir is good on Troll too. Really helps with his lack of catch, and it makes it so he has time to build up some attacks and permasnare.

[@rtcoffee1235]

I build it with WK too lol it synergises well with Radiance

[@roadstar2504]

That item is disgusting. In my middle bracket is not rare to see 3 players per team building it.

[@HappySmilingDog-d7u]

Bro 2k mmr tactics dont mean anything...

[@novapreem6650]

Please do a tierlist for Pos 4/5. Thanks!

[@RobbieRobski]

Is it just me (cache) or is the channel profile image still the Tesla logo

[@SeekerMissile]

having 58%wr with Shadow Demon mid rn. Just play what you like guys and try become the master of your favorite hero! It will pay off way more than jumping around with "meta"

[@KanyeT1306]

1:49 "Strong reliable laners that hit a pretty early timing." Hasn't that been the meta for the last seven years? Ever since trilanes were axed out, carries are forced to win their lane and fight deathball early. If it's not Deathball meta, then it's Zoo meta. Gone are the days of picking a weak hero and scaling later. The safe lane hasn't felt safe in a long time.

[@noahtekulve2684]

To me, the safelane is pretty safe for the first 10 minutes so long as you keep track of where the enemy mid is and you're warded. After 10 minutes, you gotta jungle and hit waves when they're nearby. Route your farms to vaguely follow your team and join a fight if you're 85% certain you'll get a kill and survive, that's how you pick weak and scale. It's best if your team can effectively 4-man deathball and you're farming in the background until their steam eventually wears out.

[@KanyeT1306]

@@noahtekulve2684 The safelane is a ticking timer. Your offlaner is guaranteed to be stronger than you level 1, power spike earlier than you, and push you out of lane. Once they hit 6, you either have to leave lane and jungle or they will just kill you. "Winning" the safe lane is getting decent farm/levels to jungle early and avoid the offlaner. Losing is not getting enough farm/level and inefficiently jungling. Only in infrequent scenarios with a competent 5 do you actually push the offlaner out of lane. Compared to the old Dota meta where carries are guaranteed to win their lanes. Offlaners are playmakers who require little farm to be effective, and it becomes a race to see which team's carry can farm fastest and scale quickest. In the current era of Dota, offlaners are just psuedo carries who win lane almost every time. The race is between which team's lost their lane to the least degree and can fight the earliest.

[@bebecitatamasricaqueayer]

I just picked Sven and the physical shield of the 3rd is great in laning stage. I don't know why I don't see it anywhere in the tier lists

[@markodespotov1455]

not even god knows why windranger s bind stuns instead of root

[@lucasmitchell9027]

Hell, it shouldn't even do that. it should at most leash and at worst slow you down. The fact she can just 100 to 0 someone as soon as she hits 6 with nearly no counterplay is completely absurd, meanwhile bloodseeker and viper you can just laugh at them and tp out.

[@thatguywiththeface9463]

It's the constant buffs over the long term. If I think back to the early days of Dota 2 (maybe 2012/2013) her shackleshot was hard to land because it had a short connect distance and narrow connect angle so was unreliable. Now it is super reliable if the enemy is near creeps or trees due to the distance and angle buffs. Also her focus fire did hardly any damage at the first level I think 50% damage so it tickled and you needed an aghs to make it do damage but that aghs was reworked to buff her windrun and she got a 30% flat damage reduction at all levels, so effectively what would be an aghs for level 1 focus fire she got for free. So basically classic power creep.

[@Bleacher22]

It does 0 damage and not a reliable stun, it's balanced.

[@21minus1]

​@@thatguywiththeface9463that aghs for focus fire was the best aghs in the entire history. her in s tier now is laughable compared to that time, then nobody even played her despite she was a machine.

[@_DavidLeBlanc]

I too love PL, hoping for big buffs in the near future

[@alexanderericson8628]

Overall if you wanna teach how to pick a carry I think you should go over the metrics to consider during a pick phase. Rosh potential, tempo, lane domination and the ability to scale vs what the other team picked. Scale is always going to win out the lower mmr you go and you could make an argument for that lane dominator wins the higher up you go.

[@Ex0rz]

Yeah simply making a tier list is sorta bad. Now

[@RotoGluOn]

Thanks for the vid, what about viper?

[@Library4Lich]

I know that a lot of effort probably went into the 3d characters portraits but from my phone i think the icons are better Or maybe zoom 3ds on faces but its a bit hard to understand quickly the tierlist Anyhow great vid 👍

[@dusc4]

great video B. i would love you to explain what are the "situations" when you should pick this or that or even wtf is a "good" game for X heroes. years ago when i played carry i had this stupid feel or rule that when shaker or mars were on the other team i go naix it was my confort but never dig deeper. kudos man

[@Ex0rz]

Its almost impossible to really explain what situational means for each hero. But in a nutshell if the enemy doesnt have a counter for a hero, then you pick that hero. PL is a great example of that: If the enemy lacks the ability to kill your illusions, then PL is almost an autowin. You simply need to learn what counters what etc.

[@Redwood_climber]

So glad you're back!

[@Gioberrrto]

What the minimal bracket for meta do any sense?

[@Jemobulas-x]

Great job on recovering your account! :) Hopefully the damage wasn't too big.

[@KanyeT1306]

I feel like something is wrong with Dota when Lina and Windranger are the strongest "carries" of the patch.

[@Vikobaby]

“In my bracket”, “In my bracket”, “In my bracket”, “In my bracket”, “In my bracket”, “In my bracket”,

[@edward222100]

my bracket: oh kill the lina *my team watching because they have no idea how to click a mouse

[@noahtekulve2684]

Yeah, I was thinking it's a lot different for my Crusader 3. It's an important qualifier, and I think it's his way of saying "in my experience"

[@erikdila2921]

Its cause it varies from bracket to bracket... On lower brackets, you'll see some people criticizing you for picking Lina, WR or Mirana as 1, as they werent your traditional carry pick some patches ago

[@edward222100]

@@erikdila2921 its also that while these carries are good, theres a higher base level of play in BSJs bracket that allows you to pick squishy heroes like this and pop off

[@sh3nnanigans79]

Drow Antimage and Muerta are bonkers at 4k. I don’t see them lose in my games. Because it always goes late and you cannot beat them late game either from being blown up or split pushed.

[@Nia_dota]

Welcome back Banana man!

[@Adam-574]

i see your channel do is finally back

[@blackpurge]

I don't think PA is A tier, she's more C tier. Methodical feels good and seems good when you lose your lane and get booted to the jungle where you get a huge farming boost because you have a 25% chance to crit for 325% damage on creeps (that's almost better than lv3 crit of veiled one PA) but where you catch up in farm you lose out on damage output, if any of your enemies need to be bursted with two crits you must attack 10-12 times which almost never happens. There's also the factor of being predictable, and methodical PA is extremely so, you can't switch targets, your burst always comes in at the exact same time and your damage is never fatal, so against good players you always lose. Being predictable for your own comfort also means the enemy is comfortable with using their defensive utility at the last moment, wasting PA's potential.

[@raflyarafat4882]

@@blackpurge Predictable also means you can pick when to engage. Throw some dagger 1st and go in for the kill. I rather not letting RNG decide whether i get triple kill or not having crit in 6+ attack. If you need 2 crits to take a chunk of someone's HP, might as well target other, squishier backlines

[@lucasmitchell9027]

Methodical is almost always numerically equal or better. You can go for like 7 or 8 hits with no crits with PA, and methodical fixes that. It's not about comfort, it's about not leaving the game up to chance. It also makes you farm far faster, making it so you hit your timings earlier. PA right now farms as fast as dedicated flash farmers like Sven, Luna and alchemist. The only situation it's worse is in lower elos where the game goes on for longer and you know something like triple dagger + rapier is your endgame.

[@raflyarafat4882]

@@lucasmitchell9027 based

[@lemzpotutan2839]

Actually from my experience, PA is almost an S Tier. The PA right now can pick more tempos than previous patches of PA. If u always goes to standard build like just a boots Wband and go straight batlfu, most of the time you AFK farming. But if you explore other items and builds with good support ofcourse, you can always with the clash.

[@clayz6717]

OH BOY HE'S BACK

[@raflyarafat4882]

S tier: average BSG enjoyer, jenkins herald review enjoyer C tier: clickbait tierlist fan F tier: jenkins 💀

[@nliznick]

The tier list is kind of hard to see with the faded tops and bottoms with a blurred background. Could you go back to portaits?

[@NotoFlash]

Wow this ends up being wildly different than turbo games in my experience. I love watching your videos. Would love if someone did this for turbo. Haven't played regular dota since 2018.

[@jusuf2334]

Vladimir has more damage (plus lifesteal, armor, and regen) than PL lvl 25 talent.

[@lucasmitchell9027]

PL is so understated right now that he only feels decent damage-wise if you have a rapier (tested it). The honestly need to undo pretty much every single one of the nerfs the did in 7.37 at this point.

[@thomattoo]

Welcome back BSJ

[@Jupex]

hopefully youtube algorithm isnt now fucked for u

[@ovidiuNa]

Looks like a nice patch without overpowered pos 1 heroes. Nice and balanced

[@Terax56]

Welcome back mr Anderson

[@jamesgarriss]

Love the graphics in your latest vids.

[@Scythwolf]

But WHY did they nerf PL so hard? He wasnt bad but not OP. There are way worse heroes up there with winrates of 55% plus.

[@im_Smitty]

My boy PL, what have they done to you :(

[@johannesreus5154]

Today is the day of tier lists it seems :D

[@motchness]

Brian, we’re waiting.

[@jeveetsoibam]

There's a midas bug at the moment even pros are abusing ,use - drop - buy midas - sell - pick up, FREE CHARGE

[@lemzpotutan2839]

And get reported and maybe get banned.

[@basketball2560]

No Sand King ?

[@TWTAdrian]

BSJ says Medusa is C, Speed from GAmeleap says MEdusa is TIER S best Carry of the patch. Please guys, get a consensus.

[@kraaakennn6688]

speed is shit used to listen to him. Medusa right now is a situational hero if he doesn't have a good lineup around him he's a shit hero unlike WR and Lina on their own they can make plays and carry the tempo of the game unlike Medusa who usually hides in jungle for a long amount of time before it can hit its timing and even then if your lineup isn't build around medusa it can die anytime. So yeah for me Medusa is a shit and very situational hero. Problems with Medusa: Doesn't have a catch a reliable skill to lock down enemy to kill fast(her root skill may be a "lock down" but it has a slow animation that can easily be dodged and has a low duration as well.) Doesn't have the mobility to evade ganks Has a late timing than most carry that can fight on early-mid game

[@kraaakennn6688]

@@grimmjow4784 Medusa has a 46% win rate in my bracket. And the lack of her appearance in my queues says that it is a situational hero.

[@kraaakennn6688]

@@grimmjow4784 Lina and WR has a 55% win rate on my bracket with 4k and 2.5k matches played while dusa has 46% win rate with only 841 games played. So I don't know what bracket are you saying. I'm playing on Divine bracket.

[@mrunlisted1890]

I trust bsj and jenkins more than speed, speed gets my mmr lower

[@NotLefty.]

I think speed dumbs down most of the hero picks to lower ranks. Whereas bsj deals with the higher parts of the rank bracket. Just my two cents.

[@Dysktm]

Oh boy tierlist out next patch must be coming soon

[@wholehorse331]

14:37 Watching my Divine pub Mirana in fact NOT match the pace of the enemy battlefury PA somehow, never trust another person to play carry

[@agooolo-w8z]

No broodmother ?

[@Qwerty-ns9yk]

brood farms slow and is useless without farm

[@Quartermistress]

@@Qwerty-ns9yk idk bout that 54% winrate this week and second most played role is carry for her.

[@brandoncerda8650]

@@Qwerty-ns9yk herald detected. Brood is one of the fastest farming heroes in the game

[@leonardomiyasaki1714]

@@Qwerty-ns9yk brood farms fast with her ultimate

[@DillyDally-vm3nx]

Her damage output has been halved with Bloodthorn. Unless you're building harpoon, carry Brood has been nerfed. ​@@Quartermistress

[@Nastruuuuu]

you're back!!

[@TheXNuahs]

Lina S tier because of the magic resist right? But still weak to physical damage. Same counters apply - drow, lycan etc

[@Salpetr_jsepa]

just because of her insane dmg just watch top ranked games, she's banned or first pick every game she can just win any game

[@paldentamang9091]

Not drow...but lycan sure

[@kane5769]

wtf arc warden is S tier because he can split push lanes, use items on both clone and original arc - he's tanky and deals massive amounts of damage. Before 6 lvl it can be hard but after u'll be extremely difficult to deal with 😮

[@attilaberdy9728]

Thanks for the video!

[@henrybottomsworth]

BSJ back PogChamp

[@Steffoontour]

Welcome back!

[@madhairsilence]

Phew!!!! Its back.

[@RightAIopen]

Can you make more teaching videos? Some of the are 2 years old already.

[@renanlopes9400]

So I've been doing right by banning Lina at my turbo games.. It was unbearable to go against her. As an offlaner if you build magic resistance she kills you with right click. If you build armor, she kills you with spells and atk speed. My casual gameplay is not up to that shi...

[@Arcanine.Legend]

Welcome back

[@soldieroftruth77]

If they don’t have a lot of jump I think drow is still very good

[@noahtekulve2684]

Yeah, everything except the F tier is still viable in regular games, according to BSJ

[@SKing702]

Emperor is back

[@nimaebrahimi8673]

What happened to his account

[@SKing702]

@@nimaebrahimi8673 got hacked

[@SKing702]

@@nimaebrahimi8673 hacked

[@omayway]

idc i just want to fkin know how to deal with 4 sups game i had a warlock mid , wd lion tide 3 sf 1 they eated us alive .

[@neothewon]

Bkb

[@fawwadkhan4356]

Its all fun and games, until you're 1k and you're carry role picks venomancer

[@johng5704]

Here after LD absolutely stomped during TI (only D tier here).

[@nimafeizikia5209]

❌ Immortal Bracket ✅ My Bracket

[@xbon1]

use ur words, what does this mean?

[@flin4557]

I can not get used to the PA reliable facet

[@infuriatedjurijcorn1346]

I pick NS safelane when I see Lina. Won 2 games in a row now stomping her while she farms lmao

[@hollandrefuerzo248]

medusa at C tier 💀

[@ralph734]

Waiting for mid picks

[@SarcaZmOn]

Only players above 5k mmr can play Lina pos1. WR pos1 will not work in 99,999% of matches.

[@eg-ph4xl]

congrats on recovering your account

[@minnemind]

What about Ember Spirit?

[@lukeskywalker6641]

Valve is corrupt and sadistic and the matchmaking system is designed to make you lose whenever you clearly demonstrate that you are way higher than your bracket.

[@intermedianguitarsguild4482]

Cope seethe mald

[@qaismosa4189]

void spirit ?

[@yamiralarcon4737]

Invoker ?

[@Xenion55]

Lone druid in d tier when its the most broken hero atm? 😂

[@thealmightypuff4125]

Drow?

[@jadasmar1869]

I dont think pl is F tier though

[@pseudonym9215]

Abbadon 5 is just broken

[@kraaakennn6688]

True to this. I had a lane of visage and tiny with the toss facet who keeps spamming their skill on me(safelane) and without Abaddon I couldn't stay in that lane. He easily reversed their damage so I can stay and farm. Any other support(outside of probably omni) would automatically cost us that game.

[@pseudonym9215]

@@kraaakennn6688 Omni could be of help you but Omni heal has manacost, makes it unsustainable for more that 3 or 4 heals before level 6.On the other hand Abba heal half that manacost and heals you 25hp more than omni. Add shield to that, abba can reverse 535 hp damage. Add the CDR facet, you can spam the shield and heal if you get mana boots without worry.

[@yooanto9465]

I think maiden is best hero.

[@eternalelife]

lina is super broken right now fr

[@heattorture4898]

Where is Venge sir? she bery stronk too.

[@el33tkrew]

lol he finally got it back

[@btokarski82]

Yo you're missing a brood in ur list lol

[@leva34]

im confused

[@darkwrathbacca1465]

I LOVE YOU BSJ

[@okbehindyou]

bro got hacked 💀

[@kulusic1]

Universal heros nerf incoming.

[@Alaric11]

All my favorite carries in D and F. Game hasn't been enjoyable in years. =(

[@seanj5249]

Lone Druid D tier oof

[@jaxonnevermore1394]

Bsj pls do another smurf video

[@marcelomodular]

mirana?

[@calibased]

Please don’t pick these S tier heros. You will throw.

[@ncoptwow361]

Lina tree noted

[@PhilemonMortimer-q6o]

Jones Edward Gonzalez Kimberly Lewis Charles

idk about bs d tier

[@Livedukk]

15s ago is crazy