The best offlaners in Dota 7.37d

[@bearmanjon_bmj]

I dont care who the IRS sends, Im not playing Visage.

[@five.024]

I dont care what the meta is, I WILL be playing Visage

[@MidKick54]

@@five.024 what's ur best facet for visage ?

[@namuh87]

if i have to choose between sniper and pa, i will pick visage..

[@ThutaAye-dk7er]

Pause every sunrise with Dawnbreaker.

[@Alex-kf4zf]

holy shit lmao im a dawnbreaker spammer and i've never done this, or even thought to do this

[@justseven3487]

bruh

[@ahomsi813]

? What does this do

[@solacech.]

@@ahomsi813 innate/facet (i forgot) gives you global unobstructed vision for 5 secs every sunrise

[@GadBoDag]

You can look at the revealed map for a long time

[@ubstersnub8980]

27:01 alright time to continue with my day

[@TankorSmash]

The editing in all the patchnotes is incredible value. Not just for now but like a year from now when all this context is lost to time.

[@Forsakenspaceship]

It’s always good to see this handsome man back with meta insights

[@demi4416]

that's a cute girl

[@BreadAccountant]

13:55 If 33 is trying it, there might be something there. He is always setting the meta for how the weird heroes are played in the offlane and it often defines the entire meta.

[@St1TcHinGMonk3y101]

Correct, but also be careful because he is one of, if not the, best offlaner in the world, so he can do things us mere mortals can't

[@iPlayDotaReligiously]

​@@St1TcHinGMonk3y101 xD true tho

[@basbrouwer9660]

100 percent correct on veno, i've spammed him for years, rain or shine, but this is the only patch it's near impossible to win with him. the threat of him taking half your hp when you get close to the creeps is completely gone now it takes a single disable to kill him from full hp

[@freddypyotr3771]

17:57 ,lol. Classic Sea. We just wiped the enemy team and we still have aegis, we should push and get at least one T3 and rax. Cores: "nah, I need to be 6-slotted before a game can end". Supps: "hey, you know how we're winning fights because i provide good vision and build supp items. That ends now. Ill go deso radiance on Shaman now, lol"

[@darkjellyfish4107]

It's worse than that. Me: Guys, we got aegis, I have shit tons of aura. Lanes are pushed in past the river already. Let's group as 5 and push T3. Invoker: Nah I'm gonna continue splitting and try 1v5 enemy team. And then 5 seconds later a Slardar +1 ate him up for dinner

[@oscarlindvall1053]

Visage deserves his own tier based on my experiences :D

[@owenmcdonald8342]

I feel like Venge should be reworked and balanced around her Aghs effect being her Innate

[@420JackDanielSauce]

I'm just enjoying that all these high mmr players are having differing opinions on who's strong or not atm. Watching this right after speeeds dawn breaker video and tbh I'm leaning towards Jenkins opinion here.

[@nebileyimaga]

any fun tier or god tier extra?? is clock only viable on 5 or 4 now??

[@darthbinks5987]

HelmDom is still great with packleader facet, but not recommended with alpha wolves one, because ult doesn't give ms to your units with it. Bristleback with snot rocket is actually good, just never skip shard and don't buy bloodstone with it. -24 armour and slow in a huge radius from quite a distance is no joke.

[@asmael4456]

My problem with Beastmaster is by midgame every core has linkens, I have agha bkb dagg should i just aura

[@TheBiomedZed]

Lycan Alpha Wolves is broken tier. Jenkins said it right, if your kit as a support cannot deal with wolves they just solo you in a teamfight. God forbid you pick something like AA and they last pick Lycan, you're just meat for the wolves.

[@thevegastan]

Or CM for that matter. As a CM, I always food for the wolves until I force a Skadi on myself

[@keithbation4530]

Jenkins do a top10 tier list on offlane players in history of dota 2

[@Kalron9]

I guess I should watch this. Whenever I queue all roles I get off lane

[@rickricharddick9448]

jenkins i disliked this video.

[@JeanYvesQanonAngel]

Jenkins i liked his dislike of the video

[@wsk1124]

I dislike your dislike

[@Ryfueru]

I like men

[@Xperformance]

​@@wsk1124 i disliked that you disliked that he said he disliked

[@darthbinks5987]

Who cares?

[@dacornguy]

Nice editing

[@StrifeTheHorseman]

Hey, could you also make a video about carries and midlaners?

[@johanfabriciochavezbarreto8419]

when should i use lycans facet 1 or 3? as a offlaner (pack leader and alpha wolves I mean)

[@hammloc]

The spirit wolves facet is for safelaners. You need the real wolves, with helm its really good. Zoo meta ish

[@jen_esse]

go alpha wolves always, it didn't receive a single nerf since then

[@rev9115]

Supper usually pick first so you ask ur self; Can their support kill your wolves easily? If no go wolves facet…before bkb; use wolves early before fight a move them to their sups, let them waste cc on wolves, resummon

[@johanfabriciochavezbarreto8419]

@@rev9115 so if they can kill my wolves I go pack leader instead? Because I feel like the wolves are not enough to kill the cores or even help to kill the core only the supports, meanwhile the wolves along with the neutral creep do a lot of damage and can help to defeat the cores from the opposite team

[@rev9115]

@@johanfabriciochavezbarreto8419 my guy if u really want to win and not just play lycan, if they can kil your wolves ez you go pick a better hero, diverse roles makes the team stronger

[@daiman0414]

no phoenix? according to dota pro tracker he is really strong. what do you think?

[@rimeprime8586]

thank you mr deadlock/ dahmer cosplayer. I will now rush drums on my axe games. thanks

[@fireball6840]

I miss Tidehunter meta

[@SuperGuy250]

wtf i was going this strat whit drums vladimir before i even heard about it --- drums and vladimir rush whit chen in guardian 2 so i could spam later 4 dark summoners and have 40 skeletons whit 100 dmg whit 300 atk speed and i startet whit a belth of strenght + branch + tango won like 5 games winstreak its legit op

[@maoneko]

I think pango is an S Rush aghanim and octarin core You one shot creep waves with aggs With ult duration talent you can perma stun the whole enemy team for 12 second if they stand together

[@maoneko]

I won on pango agaisnt visage and beastmaster with dom Stun chain everyone

[@JS-es5po]

Who tf plays windranger and mirana now? Jenkins my friend 🗿

[@sirpatwick537]

Oh hey Marci is back in the offlane

[@joelmccloskey4009]

d tier dawn??? idk its so good right now, maybe not in pros but easy pub win

[@shapeshifter7676]

Well, pros ended up loving dawn 🤣🤣

[@JCP-kh3jc]

Summary: Vlads and Drums are OP.

[@TOP00717]

hey can you make 4 more videos on each roles please ? and also give more insight your videos helps alot you give explanations general idea and base way to what to and when to pick hero/items

[@Takemikazuchi24]

Dawn on D?! This has to be a joke, she's rising on dotabuff. I even won 7/9 yesterday Centaur sucks after bracer nerf

[@mmortal8183]

Pair the Visage with Arc Warden and eat towers and objectives in seconds.

[@Nasgatemk2]

Brood web facet was always the weaker of the two, so I'm sad people will be finding that out more now that it got nerfed. Drums rush with the damage facet is the fastest tower killer in the game right now. You can go through backdoor on t2 within 15 minutes if you micro spiders away from opposing players.

[@LucasOliveira-lu9fp]

Beastmaster zoo build is so fun

[@C0SM3]

Is it wrong that i still prefer double chakram for Timber?

[@jusuf2334]

Second chakram make damage only 200 damage of 12 seconds cooldown while Shreder make damage 265 of 4 seconds cooldown. You decide it yourself

[@Шляпик-я3ч]

Basically no, u can play w/both facets, but after playing some games with both of them I prefer the shredder one due to increased damage and ability to max 2nd skill instead of the 1st one and still have loads of damage.

[@shapeshifter7676]

I'm kinda late, but anyway, on side lane you can find use for it since lvl2. On mid is useless since there are no trees.

[@phatyy-]

thanks for tier list. mid next!

[@Evdota247]

I came for the skippers greetings it wwarms my fucking heart babyyy

[@sleepysalmon9658]

Where's the "good times" tier? I was certain, we were gonna see Morphling in there ;)

[@KenKelvinN]

Hey Jenkins, where's your Deadlock channel?

[@stephanthayne3091]

Where PUDGE?!?!?!?

[@eliasmeneses7767]

Xd

[@Harpreet06]

Pligue wards? 😂 never heard someone say plague like that

[@Perun0001]

Okay 3 things why not ban silencer, couldn't understand a single thing you said because he was in the clip. 2nd thing, visage is broken but it is not a core hero, it sucks in late game so much that it is unplayable without an entire team, but it can indeed kill really quickly in early game so pos4 is where he should be. And 3rd thing lycan is better than enigma because whenever you pick enigma you will have one or two good black holes and that's it since enemy will keep being dispersed while lycan is just insane you can push to hg at min 20 and nothing can escape if he has a quick support with a stun

[@thevegastan]

Did you not hear what he said about aura? A good enigma will just go like Drums, Vlads, BKB, Assault, and push to your raxx if you keep avoiding him

[@my.name_00]

razor? pipe and grievs?

[@ogdoublesampson]

Veno is not as bad as you think. The bracer nerf helped him and also melee 4s are viable. Auras were always better than right click build, but now yoy can go right click after mek pipe

[@Alex-kf4zf]

I have legit >75% on Veno offlane and used it through my climb through legend, but I had to stop playing it this number patch. I wasn't even going meme wards build. The reason Veno offlane is not good this number patch is because it's a ranged carry meta. And veno offlane was good because any melee carry gets no lane at all, but you just don't get the same effect against Luna/wr/lina/weaver that you do against void/spec/pa/wk. If you see a melee carry though, go veno but in divine at least I see so little of it that I have stopped playing it entirely.

[@ogdoublesampson]

@@Alex-kf4zf good point. I have the same story as you but stopped playing it after they changed it into universal. Nowadays I only pick veno when I have a 4 pudge who doesn’t mind hooking a ranged carry.

[@Alex-kf4zf]

@@ogdoublesampson yeah for sure. before this number patch if I had a pudge 4 i was insta locking veno haha

[@scooterjazzcat1731]

Don't understand why dawnbreaker has been picked so often lately then

[@shapeshifter7676]

Because pros discovered new way to play and it's one of the best. I gained so much mmr spamming her... I got 65% winrate on dawn most loses I have are from 2022

[@eXit-ubermensch]

No clock?

[@richmusick4881]

I must be dogass cause I was over here thinking dawn was pretty good this patch

[@LaymensLament]

BIG MONEY BUBBY IN THE HOUSE

[@Shadow1606]

How about undying?

[@harrellt1405]

Never seen that hero in ages

[@Grzybons]

Well he is good for first 15-20min. You will feel like god. Then.... Mostly killed in seconds, u can't even farm strenght with first skill.

[@seamusmccarty4626]

Lol bb goes from d to s with nothing changing on the hero each Jenkins tier list

[@shapeshifter7676]

You somehow managed to be 100% wrong about Dawnbreaker 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@geraldmalana3406]

Axe and pango derswrve to a tier

[@josele1994]

Huskar can be on this list, I have 71% winrate at immortal bracket

[@harrellt1405]

As 3? Seems grief

[@InsaneStuff7]

Ammar has been griefing? ​@@harrellt1405

[@robinlovgren5972]

WK?!?!?!

[@jonathanherrera9956]

He is strong, but as a pos 1

[@Asterix958]

Razor and Marci B tier and Dark Seer&Dawn Breaker C tier for me. I think you overestimating Viper. He is D-tier hero in every role except mid-lane in my opinion.

[@yomomma3342]

DP at C tier is insane, she's so strong in herald in SEA right now.

[@iceddragon767]

Everything is strong in herald

[@Addmerall510]

ICEFROOOOG MAKE KUNKKA BROKEN AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

[@vag077]

i don't see phenix and pudge

[@silverloop9029]

Anyway to play dota with less than 50 gb

[@stphnwlkr]

Still not putting my boy Elder Titan as an offlaner. Wild times Jenkins.

[@myriixi1746]

Sheesh, i actually forgot ET existed 😂

[@wambo-582]

and no Aba

[@rf6583]

visage is so broken

[@harrellt1405]

I spam visage. I gained 1k mmr just this month xD. They will nerf him soon along side drums .

[@leuviah3340]

Where BH?

[@michawolinski314]

I'm here just to ask if anyone noticed Jakiro carry build or am I still in the minority?

[@roligt23]

dawnbreaker is good

[@ДанилоГуща]

brood in D tier XDDDDDDDDD

[@DOHandDOH]

Is abaddon 3 worse than dogshit tier?

[@barksdaleNJ]

Visage is out of control jsut played it

[@attilaberdy9728]

hmmmm sudennly i feel like i want to build drums and vlads with no boots. thank you jenkins.

[@Chaosdunk_]

Gracias

[@Bergreen88]

wtf is a plyg ward

[@akamrahimichannel]

jenkins you need to get away from the mic a little bit... too much bass... or use an EQ plugin and cut the low frequencies

[@Gewok666]

Midlaners pls

[@lakuko]

Kiss my friend again Jenkins!

[@EthVortexShield]

dont change the thumbnail

[@Oldziej_]

pudge? :c

[@AspieGG]

holy moly im so early

[@maoneko]

Centaur is not an A You are just a punching bag and bracers do not double the stats now so its really shit

[@BenLubar]

The ghost of your fingernails seems to be behind you. Be careful!

[@kayne7380]

I thought NS was top tier... Im divine 4 and on a 6 ws on NS right now

[@nashom.2011]

I thought the same, I usually stomp my games with him, but as Jenkins said, he's good when you have enemies you can blink and destroy quick enough, so if the enemy team goes for tanky supports I kinda avoid playing him and go for SK or Timbersaw, just to be sure

[@frankvincent310]

cant be top tier when he is useless half the time

[@NinjapowerMS]

​@@nashom.2011 Been experimenting with his second facet and man is it good. That movement speed and attack speed immediately at the start of match allows you to do some nasty stuff from denying and securing creep kills. Could even immediately help take out supports because you're the only one moving around at night quick. Get phyla fast and you can just delete people with quicker item timing.

[@huykun8402]

Can we not censoring the swear words?

[@kinh0t]

Annoying as fuck. Dont censor or dont say at all

[@pawciao4476]

Pudge dogsht it is

[@kib8981]

What about carries? Hahaha

[@thesenate8965]

uhh. 1st? posted 19s ago xd

[@bretthagen2389]

Where is wk??? 😂

[@Halltheman]

First?

[@tailung2561]

First!

[@doddosz3533]

painted nails = dislike

[@Stealth-16]

This is truly the gayest thing Jenkins has ever done.

[@caiqueportolira]

Cringe

[@Indresh2468]

Is Jenkins gay?

[@wianrossouw3434]

why?

[@Indresh2468]

@@wianrossouw3434 painted finger nails

[@St1TcHinGMonk3y101]

Are you gay?