Would be interesting to see what cars have the worst dollar per horsepower.
@lawanda19892 жыл бұрын
bmw i3
@fsendventd2 жыл бұрын
probably mostly full of multimillion dollar hypercars, exclude those and I'd expect Porsches to land near the top, though I don't know if they could top the Aventador SVJ's number or a couple others of that price maybe some Rolls-Royce or something too?
@valtarg12992 жыл бұрын
peel P50
@harrison52802 жыл бұрын
an F1 car
@Tribulation882 жыл бұрын
@@harrison5280 Probably close, but I'm going to guess it's the Ferrari 250 GTO that sold for $70 million in 2018 (imagine what it would go for now). With 296hp, that's $0.00000422857 per Italian stallion.... or lame haflinger's.
@skuxxskits2 жыл бұрын
I would actually love to see a used market version of this vid! comparing the average costs like the golf gti and lots more would be insane value per hp.
@mofayer2 жыл бұрын
Which is practically impossible due to the infinite number of variables.
@skuxxskits2 жыл бұрын
@@mofayer you can get sites that show a rough average. Not too hard. Doesn't have have to be perfect
@Isaac-od4rm2 жыл бұрын
I overpaid for my ST and still got a great $83/hp
@tannercraig15672 жыл бұрын
My 08 Volvo S60 is about 14.42 per HP 😂
@fukers2stop2 жыл бұрын
my n54 is about 5$ per hp
@Lev3Y3athan2 жыл бұрын
“They did a turd on a Camry” currently dying💀😂
@blackpanther300.2 жыл бұрын
My mom owns one of those turds, let me tell you it's a fun turd
@lucky889s92 жыл бұрын
That's one stinking cheap turd
@k-peezy27232 жыл бұрын
My "help me, I'm dying" moment was "you could walk into an imaginary Ford dealership that honors MSRP values and buy the 'stang"
@danielbrowniel11 ай бұрын
He should be on SNL or something.. Dude could have made it in a Sandler movie
@Ishliss20122 жыл бұрын
Was wondering if the LT1 would be the top of the list. It really is a fantastic value, I love mine so much.
@mastoslayerica2 жыл бұрын
I love mine too. Not only is is fast as a MF, but it handles and is comfortable, AND doesn't get garbage fuel economy on the hwy
@johnsalamii2 жыл бұрын
i like how the way how james puts the prices on to the list becomes more absurd with each passing d-list episode
@RandomUsername812 жыл бұрын
I don't, my OCD is hating this 😆
@higherthanmost11122 жыл бұрын
😂🤣😂🤣
@olaff42232 жыл бұрын
Ok, Foghorn Leghorn.
@olaff42232 жыл бұрын
@Damar Fadlan it's funny because you don't know what I'm talking about. Especially if you don't know what OCD is. But it's cool. The human race is definitely getting dumber.
@theomegared022 жыл бұрын
High Road is a 2011 American improvised comedy film directed by Matt Walsh, who co-wrote it with Josh Weiner. The film surrounds a young man whose loyalties are torn between his band, girlfriend, and dealing weed. Attempting to elude arrest after a drug bust, he is accompanied by his teenage runaway neighbor. It stars James Pumphrey, Abby Elliott, Dylan O'Brien, and Rob Riggle. It also premiered at the 2011 Newport Beach Film Festival, where for Matt Walsh's directing, it won an honor for Outstanding Achievement in Filmmaking.[1]
@AN2Felllla2 жыл бұрын
I love that they put "insaneo style" in the end advert. Joel Haver would love this.
@amorton942 жыл бұрын
"You'll own nothing and like it." This is the last place I expected a WEF reference, but I like it.
@habh8r772 жыл бұрын
I come here for the car entertainment and stay for the awakening to the WEF agenda lol
@milk73602 жыл бұрын
This should be the top comment
@ghoulbuster12 жыл бұрын
Based donut
@videobackups98192 жыл бұрын
Based and "own stuff you purchase"-pilled
@LeSkinner2 жыл бұрын
@@habh8r77 except they don’t have stated any agenda like that, the whole thing started from a Facebook conspiracy post
@yaboibarl73652 жыл бұрын
I have a LT1 and it’s an amazing car. Great as a 6 spd manual😁
@GoDsSoN7702 жыл бұрын
Facts, love my 6Speed V8.
@t_mac0102 жыл бұрын
Would love to see this series with used cars, with cars like a c4 corvette hitting pretty hard 🐎
@ImmortanDan2 жыл бұрын
I mean, it would be a fair bit harder to calculate due to used price differences. My ‘93 had 29 dollars a horse, but what about somebody who bought them a couple years ago during the price bottom-out?
@elen58712 жыл бұрын
I got a '97 grand cherokee for $500 one time, that made 190 hrspr. comes out to $2.63 per hrs. gonna be hard to beat that (at least, for a car that actually runs, that one ran, and refused to die for 4 years, and was still running when I junked it, it was just clapped out beyond belief)
@gageneisius80342 жыл бұрын
@@elen5871 I've gotten a couple civics that ran given to me... Infinite horsepower let dollar lol
@NightRunner_K52 жыл бұрын
I was literally just about to comment about my C4, bought it for 2200, got it running for 800, 3000 dollars for 230HP, that's 13 dollars per horsepower, i got no complaints 😂
@JGSnipes2 жыл бұрын
Yeah my 07 manual yaris hatch I got for 2500$ would be at around 23$ per hp. This would be a great list. Pick a good example with like around 50-100k miles and see what you can get. Although a much better example would be around 5k.
@maxwolthuis2 жыл бұрын
Dude this channel can bury Netflix alive… you guys are transforming folks that aren’t even into cars into car fanatics. 🇺🇸🇺🇦🇧🇷
@oscarestrada39262 жыл бұрын
The scatpack would be amazing if it didn't weigh like it was made out of lead.
@1470boyz2 жыл бұрын
if only it weighed as much as the older challengers around 3600
@evildrizzt12 жыл бұрын
Has to be sturdy from all the crashes people get in while driving them.
@MajorPainYT2 жыл бұрын
I drive a w221 Mercedes s550 and with me it’s up to close to 5000 lbs and I walk rts 💀💀
@evildrizzt12 жыл бұрын
@@MajorPainYT I’ve seen straight piped six cylinders beat stock RTs. They’re not worth a damn until you mod them.
@ksuperhero12 жыл бұрын
@@MajorPainYT rts or rt scats?
@julianmor91912 жыл бұрын
James, you’d be proud of me. Used 250,000 mile LS 430 with a modified exhaust: $1,500 / 300hp = $5 per horse
@haydenf13532 жыл бұрын
My 04 LS430 only has 73k miles but original timing belt 😬. Do you know how many times yours has been changed?
@julianmor91912 жыл бұрын
@@haydenf1353 no but i did have mine changed. You’ll probably want to do it before 100k to be safe
@Epotheros2 жыл бұрын
My 2009 Jaguar XF SV8 came with a 420 hp supercharged 4.2L V8 for an MSRP of $69k. That's $164 per hp. Not too bad, but I bought it used for $12k two years ago netting me those buff horsies for $28 per hp. Add in a pulley swap and tune and it's pushing 500 hp.
@kyleh3972 жыл бұрын
how’s the reliability on that thing?
@cameronmiles6452 жыл бұрын
@@kyleh397 absolutely terrible
@TheHenaxe2 жыл бұрын
@@kyleh397 like it was made from off-brand legos
@erikcapozzi34252 жыл бұрын
420 hp isn't alot by today's standard.Especially for 70k
@grahamburgdorf83972 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of my 07 Chevy Aveo I bought for $100 bucks and it made 102 horsepower new so say a buck a horse lol
@thegooeymanschannel71282 жыл бұрын
3:48 that ominous “for now” killed me 😂😂
@xWhiteRice2 жыл бұрын
on the opposite end of the spectrum, I just paid $34,000 for a 2022 tacoma with the 159hp 4 cylinder, for a very nice $214 per horse
@Xzander.v22 жыл бұрын
Yikes
@dehanbadenhorst13982 жыл бұрын
But it probably has more torque per dollar than all the cars on the list
@jasonr99692 жыл бұрын
🤕 ouch
@xWhiteRice2 жыл бұрын
@@dehanbadenhorst1398 too lazy to do the math but with 180 lbft of torque I really doubt it. I will say msrp for the lowest spec no option taco is like 26,500 or $167/horse.
@michaell8252 жыл бұрын
yeah but you dont buy a tacoma for the horses... you buy it for the beans!
@legostarwarsrulez2 жыл бұрын
The FWD ford maverick with the 2 liter ecoboost has a value of $84.32 per HP. Which isn’t bad.
@areboi55272 жыл бұрын
Fun fact : A horse actually has abaut 15 hp
@dalynferguson25822 жыл бұрын
Yep shits so confusing. Average is 14.9. But how that make sense lmao.
@natedagrate2272 жыл бұрын
@@dalynferguson2582 they say a horse can average 1 hp without tiring out but at a full sprint they put out 15 hp
@angelgjr19992 жыл бұрын
I think an average man can make like 60 ft-lbs of torque :)
@Pamani_2 жыл бұрын
@@angelgjr1999 Torque alone is meaningless... At what rotational speed ? I could pull out thousands of N⋅m if you give me a long enough lever!
@angelgjr19992 жыл бұрын
@@Pamani_ Yes that is true. A 200 lbs man could stand on a long lever and create tons of torque. I love physics.
@420people2 жыл бұрын
I think you guys are ready for your own show. Many characters…. All of them great. I don’t think I’ve missed a video since the beginning. Love it.
@bryanmckeithen8992 жыл бұрын
$27,000-$30,000 for a low mileage, 400HP Lincoln MKZ 3.0T AWD (2017-2019 model years). $75 per hp on the high end and you can probably even find one under warranty. Not only will you get a ton of hp per dollar, you’ll get massaging seats, adaptive cruise, self braking, and one of the best sound systems out there.
@terrorbit35532 жыл бұрын
This literally sounds like a Lincoln advertisement. Are you Matthew McConaughey?
@clockhanded2 жыл бұрын
@@terrorbit3553 The correct phrase is "Do you smell like Matthew McConaughey?" Science has proven time and time again that no one actually ~is~ Matthew McConaughey, but there is one person on earth who smells like him.
@Deuce68002 жыл бұрын
@@clockhanded hell u talking about my boy 😂
@electronitras2 жыл бұрын
Hey donut, fun video! And you should do this, but with 4x4 capable cars/trucks/suvs next! I'm sure a ton of people would love to see how all these new off-roaders stack up against eachother 🔥
@Adelheid_Dagoat2 жыл бұрын
Honestly isn’t it crazy to see how the complexion of the auto industry always changes it’s beautiful really. Hi early folks
@sethingwerson2 жыл бұрын
“Don’t get lost in the sticks” yeah literally no one wants to get lost in the boondocks
@PrioCaptSend2 жыл бұрын
10:15 well I guess you can call it… A-Ford-able? Ok I’ll see myself out now.
@dastackbr0z4702 жыл бұрын
Why did this crack me up so much😂
@kwamea.n17232 жыл бұрын
anybody knows the name of the music at this time?
@flynn2552 жыл бұрын
the honda odyssey is great. i love the one my family has with all my heart. this van has ran like new for the past 6 years, and i know itll last me another 6 no problem.
@ssmnhnh1252 жыл бұрын
I think electric horsepower should be refered to cyber hrspers😂
@Josh-og9lp2 жыл бұрын
I know your KZbin channel is blowing up, but you guys should consider starting an ad agency. The bits that you film for sponsors are incredible and you film them with a tenth of the budget of most companies. You could even leverage the Donut Media name to grow it as a new division of the business. Just something to think about because you guys make the best ad spots I've ever seen on KZbin for your sponsors.
@JunkyardDigs2 жыл бұрын
Last time I was this early to a Doughnut video I flew there...
@togafly.2 жыл бұрын
I ran
@tinyhotopicbitch2 жыл бұрын
mf really said doughnut
@silverfischdotnet2 жыл бұрын
That was an awesome vid. You guys should do another collab.
@AidansCars2 жыл бұрын
You really wanna know? Pontiac solstice. Their ad was "the roadster under 20k". It produces 173-260 horsepower. My car I bought was 4.5k and with mods my car runs about 180-185. I paid $25 per HP and 1,125 dollars per cylinder. Also inline 4 with a small block design that makes a quick 5.4 0-60
@MrKwyte2 жыл бұрын
Man, this list goes absolutely INSANEO STYLE! Gonna use this as a baseline for my next car, absolutely!
@upcastdrake84602 жыл бұрын
I picked up a brand new 2021 manual LT1 after your last $/HP video. Amazing car and always puts a smile on my face. Not only is it fast, but it handles amazingly too. The visibility is pretty awful but you get used to it and learn to just use those horses so it only matters what's in front of you haha. I paid $36k for mine optioned out.
@stickshift132 жыл бұрын
I was totally suprised to see that a gt500 has a base msrp of 73grand! not that youll find one for that price tho
@ethanmoore29992 жыл бұрын
When I was getting my car, they had one on the showroom for $130,000.
@sonnystop2 жыл бұрын
@@ethanmoore2999 thats fucking ridiculous, dealerships are poison
@user-ox5ir2rd6g2 жыл бұрын
@@ethanmoore2999 lmao that’s not even worth it at that point. I’d just buy a porsche or something..
@josedanielherrera71152 жыл бұрын
I don't even like cars but you make your videos so practical and funny I can't help but love it.
@r.x.m.2152 жыл бұрын
Dollar per torque(Diesel edition)
@NoiseComplaintgarage1422 жыл бұрын
@*Tina coye*💋⤵️ he said dollars per torque not dollars per twerk
@joshlameka4972 жыл бұрын
You guys have amazing editors lmao. I watched the first 12 seconds of this video 30 times
@TechDove2 жыл бұрын
The ultimate in performance comfort and styling is the Pontiac 6000 LE, just behind the 2013 Dodge Avenger RT with premium Audio and optional rear deck spoiler. *Behold The World's Fastest Car My 2013 Dodge Avenger RT*
@TechDove2 жыл бұрын
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@TechDove2 жыл бұрын
@*Tina coye*💋⤵️ no. Shut up spam bot nobody cares
@willgg90962 жыл бұрын
I totaled my car mid pandemic and I bought a 2017 civic for 31k it was the cheapest reliable car I could find with low mileage sucks but I can’t survive without a car in America
@SpaceMissile2 жыл бұрын
6:15 - "I wish I would have spread these out a little more." He also wishes he had painted the engine bay...
@mikemartin68572 жыл бұрын
Yall are getting creative with the ad's....love it...makes ya not wanna click off the video! Yall rock! 💯💯💯💯
@JPasdfjkl2 жыл бұрын
As someone who is currently shopping for a sports car, I really appreciate this list!!
@BornofFire1172 жыл бұрын
Finally the mustangs get mentioned. Thanks James.
@aigleflo89202 жыл бұрын
Nice vid! Always nice seeing James screaming his lungs out about hrsprs 😂 I think a similar video about $ per the ratio of weight/horsepower would be interesting/more accurate to compare performance! (Yes I get that this vid was about Raw Power but I think it'd be a good idea 😊) Great day everyone!
@ryze91537 ай бұрын
Or it could be super complicated and be dollars per HP/torque/weight ratio lmao
@geirthieussbimkravahl2 жыл бұрын
@ the 10:03 mark, he says: "and you could walk into an imaginary Ford dealership that honors MSRP values...", I fell off my chair laughing so hard at that point.
@benb43432 жыл бұрын
"Imaginary Ford dealership that honors MSRP"🤣
@Belgianidiot2 жыл бұрын
A new episode of D-Stack! I remember when these were in list form.
@moneymikz2 жыл бұрын
I bought my Maxima with 300 hrprs and just 12K miles for $25K, so guess I did pretty good. Granted this was back when economic principles actually meant something
@t28-h6j2 жыл бұрын
Yeah so I was pretty heavy in the car market about a month ago. Most maximas were ranging 25k+ with 100k+ miles. Anything less than 60k miles and it was in the 30-35k range. You wouldn’t believe it.
@clockhanded2 жыл бұрын
Nissans have been tanking in value the last decade. Everyone is driving used used Maximas and even Infiniti these days.
@CrossWindsPat2 жыл бұрын
I can top you but my car is older. I got a 2004 Corvette Z06 for 17 grand w/ 57k miles and it has 405HP. Also its a weapon around corners. But yea the interior is well.. 90's GM...
@dopey-tbh31562 жыл бұрын
when i saw the video title i thought of the maxima, they are super great power for their price point and they are super reliable with a great interior, its actually a perfect performance car, from 2016 models and higher you will get the 300 too, and the older ones give you just shy of 300
@pulse61432 жыл бұрын
My mom owns a spark and I’ve driven it…. It is one of the funnest cars I’ve driven. Maybe not the most comfortable but one of the funnest I’ve driven.
@ezekielochieng89412 жыл бұрын
Dealers ARE OUT OF CONTROL!! with their price gouging. Hopefully things get back to normal
@panadatm2 жыл бұрын
Sadly I doubt we'll see prices go down in the next 5 years
@lucky889s92 жыл бұрын
I really like to hear from dealers perspective, the owner, manager, employees. Are they getting paid better, bigger commission? What's the real reason for price gouging? Can't say chip shortage all the time.
@jackcalow24302 жыл бұрын
@@lucky889s9 there’s no stock. dealers aren’t making as much money as they used to since there isn’t as many cars to sell. hence why they markup to make up for it
@lucky889s92 жыл бұрын
@@jackcalow2430 the reason car makers don't make many is still chip? They're running a factory, wouldn't they lose money if they don't produce? I mean they're still advertising them with msrps
@mexkdspEd442 жыл бұрын
@@jackcalow2430 really? I read somewhere that most dealers are reporting record profits and that's what caused some big wigs like the Ford CEO to speak out against the gouging. I forget where I saw the article or I'd drop the link
@ducky54602 жыл бұрын
idea for new hi-low season: make a fun daily driver that focuses on reliability and comfort rather than speed like the Z’s
@dawatch652 жыл бұрын
borrrrrinnggggggg
@shaktishankarrath45952 жыл бұрын
Awesome... I'm totally for reliability and comfort...
@x.50caleditions562 жыл бұрын
Would love to see the cost per HP with aftermarket tuners that offer tuning packages
@blahorgaslisk77632 жыл бұрын
Measure it in percentage increased and cost per percent instead of per hp. At least to me that sounds like an interesting take.
@Sulkysolid2 жыл бұрын
I love James when he’s not going ape shit! You’ve already had one stroke at 23… be safe brother! Calm down! You do such a good job on up to speed when your not going insane! Keep it up, just calm it down a lil. Look to Zach, or Nolan, or jerry jer.. they don’t go ape shit and they still have the same view #’s. Proof you’ll still get views if you calm it down a bit… good luck brother! Nothing but love!
@bruhnt50632 жыл бұрын
Day 294 of asking Donut to bring old B2B back
@camaro69green312 жыл бұрын
Just last summer I bought a Mint 94 Camaro Z28 T-top nver winter driven, senior owned, super low miles for $10,750.00 CDN. That' $39.00 per HrsPer!! Canadian. I Stole IT Baby!
@andypritchard97862 жыл бұрын
Mr Pibb jab on Nolan almost had me choke on a turkey sandwich.
@mr_herstal3692 жыл бұрын
You used to be able to get a c6 zo6 for 25k and it had 500hp making it 48$ for each horse.
@lucaslagrange79242 жыл бұрын
13:29 Love how Nolan says that the new hat is 24.98, which is way less than 30 dollars. They’re actually correct now😂
@arch8002 жыл бұрын
Feeling pretty good about my second hand Chrysler 200 with the 3.6 on E-85 making a a decent 315, I bought it for 12k, making it $38.09 per horse
@lukethenuke75382 жыл бұрын
Me, who got for free my grandfather's old Passat: 193hp/0$ *stonks*
@Turciusrajone2 жыл бұрын
2006 is not old unless it's 2.8 V6
@lukethenuke75382 жыл бұрын
@@Turciusrajone it's a 2001 😅
@c4r_culture2 жыл бұрын
Loved the Colin McRae vid too
@z0sick872 жыл бұрын
Should do one of these but with power to weight
@bobjames15212 жыл бұрын
They did
@jadesded2 жыл бұрын
I actually loved that Donut referenced *insaneo style* in their ad, I was half-paying attention to the video and then heard that lmao, but the car horn at the beginning of the the video in the first ad was so _bunko town_ cause I thought someone was outside honking
@GaborDuzmath2 жыл бұрын
This is what I miss from up to speed, the screaming 😁
@EndlessBreathDidges2 жыл бұрын
Watching the gradual Flanderization of James is so satisfying.
@BlueScapegoat2 жыл бұрын
10:39 "...people don't really buy trucks for hrspr" I specifically did, granted not new. 2004 Ram Srt10, 28k miles, $22k usd, 500 hp. $44/hp
@Hockeyguy85412 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU FOR COMING TO THE DEFENSE OF THE ECOBOOST MUSTANG I had one and ALL i EVER heard was "NOT A V8? NOT A STANG!" My only response was.... at least it's a manual and they go "oh, okay"
@thepilotman53782 жыл бұрын
Electric cars may make 834 horsepower, but it is definitely not the same as an 840 horsepower challenger. Torque and actual engine sound matters too.
@ryze91537 ай бұрын
Except electric cars have lots of torque as well.
@Jlewis02012 жыл бұрын
Beg you’re pardon Matt but what if I wanted to get my stroller all muddy? I liked your two dogs and If I ever get to give it the beans with you and the bois that would be a dream come true. It still touches me that episode you ended on talking about how hard your team works and how many hours you put into you craft and how much goes into a video. I would love to get to talk to you more someday!
@PANDALOAF2 жыл бұрын
MORE POWAAA BABEHHH
@spacey78652 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Schwab moment at 1:58, oughta keep mind of our WEF overlords.
@Utopian12342 жыл бұрын
its sad that the 400z is gonna cost like 60k at least beacuse of price gouging
@peterstainer7312 жыл бұрын
Nothing like a good James and monolist collab
@gopikrishnanvilangattu82412 жыл бұрын
Love for donut media Love for James Love from Kerala ❤️❤️😁
@togafly.2 жыл бұрын
Machan
@driftydoes2 жыл бұрын
You 3 are great hosts. Simply put.
@sudahi512 жыл бұрын
I bought my 2018 Mustang GT premium for 31k in early 2020. I sold it for 34k a year later and now I can't even find an Ecoboost with leather for under 30k :/
@nickrossol98012 жыл бұрын
I've been wanting to upgrade from my Focus ST to a newer 5.0 but I don't know if i should wait for the prices to drop now or what
@sudahi512 жыл бұрын
@@nickrossol9801 oh yeah definitely wait they're astronomical right now. Mine didn't even have magride or active exhaust just a standard premium with the 10 speed and it probably got resold by the dealership for at least 36k last June
@runn1ngm4n492 жыл бұрын
Back in Europe I'd be happy to get these cars even at US dealer prices. Where I'm from a 6.2L used Camaro 2016 model goes for 80 000€.
@fj60driver2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate how you "beep" scat Edit: I would rather walk than drive a LT1 Camaro. Camshaft is a ticking time bomb in that hot garbage of a car that will cause the price to go up and you won't get many smiles for miles due to waiting on parts that are on backorder.
@adrianmadrid34322 жыл бұрын
How does that edit relate to the original comment at all also I would like to know why you have so much hate towards an lt1 just curious because I might be looking into getting one
@fj60driver2 жыл бұрын
@@adrianmadrid3432 the edit deals with the whole video I thought it was funny they beeped SCAT then at the end they talked about the Camaro. I work on a fleet of vehicles for a police department and the ones that consistently break and need a ton of expensive repairs are the "modern" Chevy V8 LS engines. They always need a camshaft replaced with low miles or a transmission replaced with low miles. The old Ford Crown Victoria cars in the fleet never break and the 5.0 Coyotes engines never break. I would never buy a Chevy no matter how cheap the horsepower is you will lose money on consistent repair costs, tow bills, and shoes from walking
@GoDsSoN7702 жыл бұрын
@@fj60driver The LT1 doesn't have an LS engine, it uses the LT1 engine.
@yegorgr242 жыл бұрын
Donut media in this video Video length 14:00 : nah Video length 13:59 : *Y E S*
@TheNolanK2 жыл бұрын
@Donut Media - The 2022 F-150 Regular Cab Short Bed (RCSB) with a base MSRP of $29,990 + $1,995 V8 Upgrade (400 HP) for a total of $31,985 puts it at $79.96 per HrsPwr... (I also mentioned the virtues of RCSBs on the May 2020 version of this video)
@AutoMotoEngineer2 жыл бұрын
Power to weight ratio/dollar would be a great comparison too
@notsahsoj51552 жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to see what cars have the best VALUE / POWER TO WEIGHT RATIO
@jonsol28042 жыл бұрын
As if dollar/hp is a constant and no matter what, the graph is always linear. Thank god because i had problems how to factor in r&d, (raw) materials, brand value, labor, etc. in the equation
@anirbano2 жыл бұрын
The 6th gen Camaros are such a gem and a shame that it's struggled so much with sales. Not only do they have the most hrsprs/$ but they also have the best handling out of the muscle cars, also have the most stunning futuristic concept-like design for the price AND they have all the modern-day tech you could need with a 2LT trim. What more could you want? I feel bad for Chevy. Because of the underwhelming response, they are killing off the Camaro.
@jman69702 жыл бұрын
If the sixth generation Camaro is “such a gem” as you say, we wouldn’t be talking about how the platform flopped. To begin, you complimented its looks. They’re controversial at best, with the majority of people holding a negative opinion. In terms of classification, it is in line with a sports car. The Challenger and Charger are regarded as being among the last muscle cars. The Camaro platform handles well and the LS is capable of putting down power, but GM hasn’t innovated beyond that in years. It’s the equivalent of GM releasing a refresh of the C7 instead of the C8. People get bored when they’re presented with the same product every year. Not to mention poor visibility, a dated interior and a higher comparative cost across the lineup.
@anirbano2 жыл бұрын
@@jman6970 You took the time to write a long comment but I don't think you've done enough research or have any first hand experience. Word of mouth is usually pretty crappy about the Camaros I've noticed. You're talking about no innovation since LS, fr? 6th gen doesn't even have a LS motor. They provided 3 different motor options and ALL of them were new innovations and extremely capable in their class. I'll talk about their new V6 motor, the LGX, because that's what I have. It's extremely capable and holds it's own against most NA V8s at the time it came out and even today, atleast from 0-120mph, so basically until the only thing that matters is raw HP. The only V8 it couldn't compete with was it's own big brother. It even goes neck and neck with a 5th gen V8 Camaro. Now for design, yes it has moved away from the classic muscle car look and has embraced sports car features and I've noticed majority of oldies and muscle car nerds don't like this. But with just a few cosmetic mods, I've personally gotten tons of compliments from regular people and car enthusiasts and I believe it's largely due to the shape, stance and bodylines of the car, which makes it stand apart from most cars on the road. It's not a 'Oh cool car' compliment like most modded cars, more like 'Oh man that's beeeautiful'. Personally I think it's very rare for a $30k car. Now for interior, it is a BIG step up from 5th gen and I've gotten compliments about that as well, because it does look cool at first look. It is no BMW or Mercedes in interior design and especially materials, but you can barely complain when you get the same HP as twice the price tag from those brands. 90% of Camaro owners don't have problem with visibility after owning it for a while and especially since 6th gen offers blind spot monitor. Most supercars have bad visiblity and it's almost part of an experience, so personally I think people need to stop comparing the visibility of Camaro with bellybutton cars.
@jman69702 жыл бұрын
@@anirbano My apologies, *LT platform. I grew up in my Dad’s hotrod shop, “LS” is force of habit. Regarding experience, I appreciate you making assumptions but you are incorrect. My brother had a 2019 ZL1 and recently sold it for a Redeye. I sold my GT350 last year for a 21 GT500. I also had a 2014 GT years back. I’m glad you’re happy with your V6 Camaro. A big consideration for my purchases is based on performance over looking the part, so I always opt for a V8. That being said, your 3.6L is down nearly 100 horsepower from the 5th generation Camaro and my former 2014 Coyote while weighing (very) roughly the same, so you either have hella driver mod or something isn’t adding up here. I will refer back to my original statement on looks, as I seem to share my sentiment with the majority of others in that it is subjectively unappealing compared to the previous generation and other options. And no, “supercars” are no excuse for the Camaro having poor visibility. It is bad. This is an extremely common complaint. And again, the interior is also pretty bad. Not even by foreign luxury standards as you mentioned, but in general. Definitely a step up from the 5th generation though. It’s not like I want the Camaro to die, but this isn’t the first time GM has lost track of what consumers want. If you enjoy your car, rock it. There’s need to defend your opinion. If you ever get the chance to move up to a V8 though, my two cents is that it’d be worth it if you like horsepower and noise. 😉
@anirbano2 жыл бұрын
@@jman6970 Yes I'll definitely go for a V8 next time because I want to experience it. Now I've become more a car person, so I literally want to experience all kinds of popular motor configurations. But I'm truly happy with my V6 purchase, because it made sense for me financially, plus at that time I had no desire for a V8. After being in this space for a while, I truly believe this is the best NA V6 money can buy, performance and sound wise. It is completely overlooked by car community because of the existence of V8 Camaros. As for things not adding up with 5th gen Camaro SS being 100hp over 6th gen Camaro V6 but being equal in race, I'm sure you would've seen plenty of examples where the HP number from the factory alone is not the deciding factor between different cars, so nothing too crazy to add up here. But I appreciate your thoughtful exchange 👍
@Stormtrooper-oc4vn2 жыл бұрын
2017 civic si HP per dollar was 116 and the in 2018 the ford focus st was at 99 dollars per hp.Great values if you bought them at the time.
@isaiahtebbe8902 жыл бұрын
Love the vids, wish I could be in one someday!!
@dhess342 жыл бұрын
No.
@galaxydrifter97992 жыл бұрын
@@dhess34 yes
@dhess342 жыл бұрын
@@galaxydrifter9799 your father and I have been over this time and time again with you: No!
@galaxydrifter97992 жыл бұрын
@@dhess34 ha jokes on you, my dad left when I was 2. I'm now 2 and 4 days
@dhess342 жыл бұрын
@@galaxydrifter9799 Well in that case, happy birthday, sport.
@ShawnFX2 жыл бұрын
1:59 "You'll own nothing and like it" *1984 intensifies*
@rexrackers77992 жыл бұрын
but none of them come close to the 2006 gli that I got for $2500 and had 200 hrsprs, which came out to a whopping $12.50 per hrspr. Prolly made up for that cost in oil tho :/
@trd87492 жыл бұрын
Those stickers are INSANEO STYLE
@EjinRenos2 жыл бұрын
This has always been a poor measurement that started with some cars that needed this kinda flex despite being lackluster. I think a better measurement would be 0 to 60 per dollars. Or dollars per second. Because we all know doesn't matter the horsepower you got if you lose to a "weaker" car.
@nathaniel51572 жыл бұрын
0-60 is an overrated measurement as well but you do have a point
@EjinRenos2 жыл бұрын
@@nathaniel5157 I agree to an extent. But my point of the matter is there has been cars with 400hp losing to cars with 310hp only for both to lose to a heavier V6 powered 300hp car. Horsepower ratings just ain't all that in that kind of retrospect.
@GoDsSoN7702 жыл бұрын
The LT1 would still win. There isn't another car that runs 4 seconds 0-60, and mid to low 12s in the quarter mile for $35K (price is increasing $1800 for the 2023 models.).
@MRCruise242 жыл бұрын
Great video! real consumer advice;)
@JohnnyB.2 жыл бұрын
Bought my 350z for 8k and it ran 271hp on the dyno making it $29 per horse!! What a steal! My 91 Miata which I got 2,500 with 100hp makes it about $25 per horse! Now though, the Miata is worth like 8,000 making it less of a deal with about $80 per horse!
@granvilleburke68312 жыл бұрын
It truly was the last car I seen on the list....right on!!!
@kronaware Жыл бұрын
As an LT1 owner, I'm glad to see I got a good value.
@flowroll7772 жыл бұрын
@12:01 we're not even done!!!!!!!!! lol
@TRJUST2 жыл бұрын
James is the best literally.
@carterpinczes63302 жыл бұрын
I was wondering where the Camaros were on the list, then they just topped it at the end. Very cool 😎
@gonzo2.02 жыл бұрын
Seriously, give James anything he asks for before he leaves to do stand up and crushes the earth.
@dee64082 жыл бұрын
I WAS WAITING FOR THIS VIDEO‼️😭 right in time omg
@jlbueno06112 жыл бұрын
1965 f100 352 v8 pi short bed,all beat up but running ,at $500 Awesome deal of $2.50 per horsepower or1.50 per torque lb
@XchinDubstep2 жыл бұрын
Can't believe Insane-o style made it to a D-list vid. But of course, Nolan is always Insane-o style.
@jonathanR5172 жыл бұрын
Only commercials I actually watch. Nolan: you are hilarious.
@Zombified-2 жыл бұрын
I miss the slapping of the small magnets that never stick and them sliding off 🤣 Only now do I realize that those were an integral part of the humor