Top Speed Run! | 200cc Shifter Kart

We modified our 200cc 5 speed Lifan shifter kart to try to hit 80 or more miles an hour on a go kart. If successful, it'll be the fastest speed we've ever achieved on a go kart. We hit 73 MPH a few weeks ago on an initial top speed run, but after adjusting the carburetor for a richer air to fuel ratio and adjusting the camber and toe to be better suited for high speeds.
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You guys do an awesome job with your channel! The two of you have a great chemistry. Better than cable.

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"My grocery getter...congratulations!" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 oh ike lol that was perfection!

[@dankdabby826]

actually dead😭

[@CaptanTaco]

3:17 when you stub your pinky toe late at night all for a glass of water

[@wyattcannon9865]

lmao

[@stevenpugh7896]

lmao

[@stymiesnerdly771]

Shouldn't the target be 88mph just so you can travel back in time to 1985?

[@tstricklin853]

Steimie Snerdly if it were only that easy I'd already be there

[@joejava3000]

LMFAO!!!....

[@BuzzLOLOL]

19 HP will struggle to 80+ MPH...

[@russellcupples2170]

LOL .Good call .They didn't install the flux capacitor tho .

[@chawizaud]

A helmet with a visor would be less wind resistance

[@yourmothersfavourite9396]

I think this is the limit guys cmon😂😂😂this little go kart is crazy fast

[@TrojanHorse1959]

LOL! Get him with that "Meaniata" John! LOL! You got the video title wrong guys. It should be, "We talk ourselves out of the 80 MPH Top Speed Attempt."

[@blkicemike4857]

Well shucks,.. I figured you'd hit 90mph.🏎💨 but 73mph still not bad. A simple gear ratio adjustment. Glad to see build complete. Nice work fellas😎👍..

[@bobbyjames6940]

For a sec I thought Issac was gonna say "if your friends don't have velocity get new friends" lol

[@richardroush6938]

Killing it as usual guys 🤘 I'm going through some tough times and y'all always put a smile on my face. Been watching since the early days and can't wait to see what you guys do next. John we need an update on the truck.

[@hjc4552]

Hyabusa drag rail ahahahha

[@cainankitts7216]

Esteban Pedroza I thought it was Good Year tires? Jk.

[@johnstutz4458]

Eurobeat Hayabusa everything

[@lilhojo123]

Acceleration > top speed.

[@dddurk123456789]

lilhojo123 agree a million perceny

[@xxbublebee123]

Me too i agree

[@seth_5394]

With a go kart and/or on a road course, generally yes.

[@alexhaste5912]

It depends on the track but for most yes

[@bradleymartin1196]

I know I don't comment, but you guys are the greatest. Learned a lot from you guys and looking forward to when yall are on the velocity channel.

[@robertjames7869]

Nice job, guys. I've enjoyed this project. Keep it up and stay safe

[@triedproven9908]

Definitely one of my favorites from you guys. I really like that little kart. Great work.

[@quevicular]

dont give up on the eighty. This is a game changer for you guys. Get a fairing on that thing, plane the head, run good fuel, change the sprocket size upa few teeth. Itll b fyne

[@l.t.keefer9310]

Glad to see U's working on something with a little speed to it , 👍

[@Andrewlang90]

I just want to know Jon, was that family member you promised your mom? If so, bless her heart. So naturally, put Ike on it instead. Makes sense. “Get Ike to do it, Ike’ll do anything.” Lol

[@ronaldmartineau8726]

Music

[@seth_5394]

Jon really wanted to break that promise when he was on it breaking 50 😆

[@Duckii_mode]

I’ll always love the karts but Let’s see some trucks and cars! (:

[@jacobmonroe209]

Build some aero out of cardboard it would be cheap and easy just for testing purposes 😉 also a street bike helmet with a visor would help then just tuck in as tight as possible. You'd probably get a 3 mph increase minimum

[@LoneRevD]

A small sheet of plexi or lexan from Home depot or lowes with Zip ties would do it as well. That aero nose they have looks on the heavy side. No matter, 72 3" off the ground is really flying.

[@crystalperez3026]

IKE IS A BEAST love y’all channel can’t wait to see y’all in Dallas

[@troycrowder9942]

man you guys are right by being careful it takes a big man to know you're odds and set your limits to them I can truly respect that that was a class act I am very proud of you guys man nice job set one good example no shame in that unless you're a chicken lol ;;;;;;;;;;

[@Chris-yy7qc]

Finally wearing adequate protection. Thanks guys. I want to see more vids from ya! :)

[@trainwreck682]

Greetings from Texas yall. I just discovered your channel. You guys are a trip. I've been binge watching for a week now. I'm hooked. When I tell my wife "it'll be fine" she dont get it. I just smile and walk away. Lol. Love the channel guys and will get some merch soon.

[@meco72104]

73 is wild on such a small cart, keep up the good work.

[@MrDoggss1969]

Thumbs up for the old cars! What did he need to fix it? A pair of pliers and a hammer...well, maybe just the hammer. lol Great video guys!

[@MarkMarvin1983]

Wow!! I would love to try that gokart out!! Awesome!!

[@belo-zerolt-180]

Dude I ain't got a TV & I will straight up go to a sports bar just to watch that

[@firefighter3b]

Great! I watch Velocity all the time. Rock on guys.

[@Romans--bo7br]

CarsandCameras - Ike & John... been a subscriber for a long time, and sure enjoy your videos.... brings back lots of memories for myself, as I worked in a Go-Kart dealership starting when I was only 12 years old, back in the "heyday" and golden era of Go-Karting (early through late mid -1960's - until I went to VN). I raced on the dealer team, with an 800 Series Go-Kart (manufacturers name, from Azuza,CA.) running in class C-Open with twin "Mac" MC-10's on alcohol on "short" track road race circuits would do 70 - 75mph with "short gearing". Had a Yamaha chassis with a single K-100 Yamaha 2 cycle kart engine (with clutch) that was also capable of 70+ on a "long track" - and that was bone stock in the mid - 1980's. Tried a 250cc "Super Kart" (Shifter) on a 1.75 mile endurance race circuit and after just 2 "trial" (re; getting use to) laps, my first timed lap was 116.4mph... in "experienced" hands, it was capable of over 130 mph... as demonstrated to me by the owner. My wife said... "if you buy that, I'm gone"...... I should have gone with my "gut" and bought it!.... that was in 1983, just before I bought the Yamaha. You fellows Really need to do a 2 cycle on one of your karts.... preferably the chassis in this video, and you might consider a Rotax "shifter".. which you can obtain in either 80cc, 125cc (Very Popular class) and 250cc. even the "little" 80cc will very quicky get you up into the 85+ mph range and faster, depending of course on gearing and where you're running it. I also drag raced for 20 years (front engined dragsters of my own, and drove a back motored Top Alcohol dragster [TA/D] for a team).... and I have an "old school" tip for you in regards to the exhaust pipe on this 200cc engine and looking at the "coloring" of the tube. Take a spray can of Flat White paint, and paint TWO stripes down the length of the tube - Starting at about 2.5 inches from the header, to the outlet of the header pipe an then AFTER it dries, make a couple of "hard" (full throttle) passes with it of EQUAL distances, cutting it "clean" from FULL Throttle (clutch disengaged/out of gear and Engine shut OFF) at the end of each "pass". It "may" take Three passes like that, but you will see where the paint will "burn off" at one particular point on the header tube... Cut the pipe OFF right at the ENGINE SIDE of the burn mark... that will be your ideal length for your engine in it's "Current" state of tune. The burn point on the paint/header pipe, indicates where the point of sound "reversion" is within the pipe, which in essence is creating a "dam" or point of restriction to your exhaust flow, which in turn is creating extra heat at that point, causing the paint to burn off - quicker than it will eventually from time and heat along the rest of the paint stripes, if they do at all. Sound waves DO create restrictions within even the best of exhaust headers... by knowing exactly where in the header tube the point of reversion is and then cutting it there, will negate the negative effects of it. In automotive situations.... Glass pack mufflers are the Worst "modification" one can do... I've spent many hours in years past on my own dynamometer, testing many numerous types of "mufflers" on a "mule" engine to document the effects of each in regards to hp and torque outputs.... in Every test, and regardless of the manufacturer, Glass Pack mufflers were the most restrictive in terms of reducing horsepower outputs.... compared to Factory Stock mufflers even.... in one case, the glass packs tested (from a "well known" brand) produced 28 horsepower LESS than the factory mufflers that were originally designed for the "mule" engine I was using on the dyno.... a hp 327ci small-block Chevy, 4 bolt mains factory rated originally at 340hp. That shows how much effect that sound waves can have on the power output of ANY engine, large and small, and why it's important to negate those effects as much as possible. Just so you know, I formally studied engine design for 4 years at one of the top-ranked schools of the era in the nation.... and all these things come into consideration. Yes, I know people will say.. "but engines are different now" compared to the 1960's.... well, NO... there are Not. They're still reciprocating engines using the same 4 or 2 cycle principles as then... the only thing that has changed is the way fuel delivery is controlled (as well as valve action control in many cases), and the means of plug firing (gas engines - in automotive & marine applications especially), but the same basic "engine" is still at the core...... and the "selling" to the public as to "why" the switch to electronic controls on automotive engines.... was a Complete Lie... it had Nothing to do with "cleaner emissions" (getting rid of the lead anti-knox compounds was enough to accomplish that).... but it Did (and Does) have Everything to do with...... well, lets just say... "you can't DE-mobilize (Stop) people from driving their vehicles (re; Control people's moving about at will)... even as the result of an EMP, IF... their driving NON-Electronically controlled vehicles. Get the picture? The 4 strokes are a lot of fun - but if you Really want to try goose bump "Quick".... the 2 strokes are definitely "where it's at..... UNLESS, you build something like a (minimum) 600cc 4 cycle motorcycle engine powered Kart, or perhaps powered by something Really wild, like a Yamaha VMAX, or for some Real "seat of the pants" brute force torque... an 1800cc Honda VTX engine and transmission in a Kart (the 1300 VTX sounds more like a Harley as it utilizes a single pin crank)!! Our Karting friends in Europe seem to love putting High horsepower motorcycle/transmission combo's into go-karts... youtube is full of videos from "over there".... wild to say the least!!.... definitely capable of "putting your heart up into your throat" as we use to say. PS: a nice little "healthy" 2 stroke in a mini bike is also LOTS of fun... will definitely give you a "rush". ; ) One more for you to consider... one that I've thought about, but never did.... build a front (front engined chassis "work" better with horsepower levels Below about 1,000 to 1,200 hp) engine dragster with a 2 cycle outboard marine engine for power.... either a V-6.... or IF you really have the guts.... a V8 OMC (parent company for Evinrude & Johnson) released a carbureted 3.6 liter 2 cycle V8 rated (supposedly) at 275 hp, although dyno tests done by owners and independent shops were consistently showing 300+, and in 1988 they released a new 2 cycle 4 liter "300hp" beast (which dynos proved to be Very "underrated")..... and they Loved to be run at WOT (wide open throttle)... perfect for drag racing!!.... but, were "heavy" for a 2 cycle at 555 lbs... nearly the same as a small block Chevy V8, but the acceleration factor was beyond belief!! The worlds record for an outboard powered boat was set in 1989 by a 3.5 litre version of the "275" hp version V8 that was tuned to 10,000 rpms on Alcohol.... at a speed of 176.556 mph!!.... and that record was still "standing" in March of 2014 (25 years after it was set!).... which was the last time I checked it. Anyway, guys.... you two keep having fun and sharing all your doing with all of us "out here".... I keep looking forward to whatever your next "build" is.... you're even rekindling the past "youthful fires" within me to possibly build one more "fun and crazy" go-kart or mini-bike while I still have the ability to do so. Thanks for all the memories, you bring to mind for myself, and All the "older kids" like myself.... and helping us to "relive" our younger days, when we built things, just as you two are, now. .

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This is the best CAC video ever!

[@MillennialRebelion]

Loving the intro. It fits y'all so well.

[@fordmodela3641]

I always enjoy the videos. It takes me away, and I feel like I’m there...👍

[@Hoggdoc1946]

I agree the engine on the cart has reached it’s limits at 70/71 MPH. Also crazy to try to run that speed on open highways. I noticed while John was driving the steering was very sensitive to input, maybe you should look into slowing the steering ratio a lot.

[@Yelnats101]

Been waiting on this video!!!!

[@nickjames2267]

You guys are one of the only youtubers who i do not mind listing to talk lol

[@corey4c105]

He was flying badass!

[@boostjunkie2320]

This is awesome because I'm building a single seat rear engine gokart with Honda XR200R engine and 6spd transmission with a foot clutch. I'm having trouble finding a shifter for it though. I have bigger dirt style tires with decent ground clearance but no suspension. Your video's have convinced me she's going to be a beast!! I just had the entire frame stripped and painted with red car paint. It looks bran new!! Solid frame too I can't wait!!

[@IngenTechNational]

10:45 Sounds like a NASCAR restart!!!

[@DracolegacyOfficial]

im glad you used proper riding gear. stay safe, have fun.

[@watahyahknow]

wat about if youre in europe and dont receive the velocity channel ...... would be nice to be able to put it on youtube after they aired it

[@dano2644]

My grocery getter! Congratulations! Haha

[@gameoverguy7223]

Awesome video

[@mten8965]

You guys are cool you make a good team great video👍😎

[@christophervaldes5155]

It’d be awesome if you guys could secure a venue. I’d definitely make the drive up from Atlanta and bring a few of my friends (your fans) with me, if you get one!

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Awesome videos💪💪💪👍👍👍 badass

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Love it

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I watch your videos high!❤️

[@mat122100]

Super EXCITED for the 20th 💪😲👌💯

[@bwxmoto]

My dudes.. the gearing is too high. Lower the gearing so it revs out in top gear and you'll go a lot faster. Personally i wouldn't do it on that road though! Get to a deserted totally straight and flat road somewhere in between two corn fields with NO TREES around and do it.

[@Katman718]

Now That's A Wicked Kart 👍

[@CIBERXGAMING]

You guys should make the shifter kart street legal. I'd love to see that on the road!

[@willyck948]

Had a wobble issue welding up hubs to pulleys and found claming the parts in a vise works great keeping the pulley straight

[@bryce86777]

Love your guys work. John, in a wreck you know the first thing to hit the ground? Your hands. Bodily reaction. Finger wear away fast. Keep some leather gloves on those digits.

[@pulsetheprotogen]

Carsand cameras posted this vid on my brothers birthday

[@upsidedowndog1256]

HP to speed ratio increases exponentially. And I can't drive 55!

[@jean-charlesweyland129]

One foot on the brake and one on the gas, hey !

[@upsidedowndog1256]

Jean-Charles Weyland That's how the F1 drivers do it!

[@butchs.4239]

Added a like as soon as I saw Issac suiting up for the run. A shame it didn't crack 80, but I'd agree you guys have run into the wall where it becomes exponentially more expensive to get that last little bit of speed out of something. 70+ is plenty respectable for what it is and I'd be happy with that. Now fix the shifter and bring it over to GoPro. ;-)

[@hellreaper1079]

Hahahaha the spatter scream

[@tkskagen]

Stop boasting about you Miata John, Classic Cars/Trucks ROCK! You'll find out soon enough with your 66' BUILD... ALL RESPECT, -Thomas (12) Port Orchard, Washington

[@CamaroRick]

A good attempt, It'l be fine!

[@AReaux2000]

Camaro Rick it’ll*

[@CamaroRick]

I stand corrected! It'll be fine!

[@andrewshearer9689]

Personally guys, I think you should do some carb work like bigger jets, and bigger needle and seat or even a bigger carb, and maybe port and polish all the ports and possibly shave the head for higher compression. Or you could play with the sprocket sizes. Just a suggestion. Awesome kart.

[@worleyracingproductions1755]

Think it just broke my heart yes 73 is fast but look at enduro karts at like Daytona and stuff the fact of it being a smaller frame doesn’t really effect anything you guys had a lay down kart that you bought out of a barn if I remember correctly I think it would be neat to do Atleast 80 it is a very neat idea

[@Bradfordgarage]

You should bring this go kart to the drag strip

[@draggonhedd]

Throw a bigger rear sprocket on this thing and just turn it into a tire burner

[@brentwagner1563]

Hmmm... I wonder why that's illegal... Lol love the vids stay safe

[@abrarvania2856]

Please please please do a restoration on that Chevy pickup of Ike’s. Like if you agree so they see this !!!!!!!

[@nathanbutler8240]

The Bird Boy it will never happen. For 1 reason only. Ike isnt a flashy new paint restoration kinda guy. Look at all 30-40 cars he owns they're all the same condition. He dont care if its rusty it fits the era hes gonna drive the wheels off of it anyways

[@abrarvania2856]

nathan butler that’s true. But if that thing gets a fresh paint job and they repolish the chrome. DAMB that world look badass

[@Oscar-sm7fo]

nathan butler thought the same thing

[@crankysports]

it's perfect as it is- don't restore it

[@bad1487]

It's just a beater truck to run around town in. Nothing to restore.

[@calvarycustoms6681]

I don't care that it didn't hit 80....I'm just glad to see y'all wearing leathers. Can't understand why John seems to insist on never wearing gloves.

[@j74juan]

Awesome

[@frankfitzpatrick5300]

A Chain guard is an ABSOLUTE MUST !!

[@giskard80]

you guys should build a wall ride section. like a skating ramp, only a tight banked corner. :)

[@TheBarnacleBlimp]

So close guys. If you went down 1 tooth on the gearbox sprocket to increase the revs overall but will pull better in top gear. Also changing the gearbox sprocket is much easier IMO. Great video as always. I will have to try and get the velocity channel in England. :-)

[@nickthecarguy-channel]

Race that cart against johns Miata and Ike’s c10!

[@hotshtsr20]

Considering it made 60 from a roll in about 10 seconds, probably a better race for a Prius. :)

[@spencerwells4523]

wow that's fast

[@toddtedder5095]

Just added Velocity Dispatch to record on the DVR. Can't wait

[@mixerman810]

Sick

[@brianswelding]

Subbed. Ike totally reminds me of the cartoon guy Hank Hill (his voice).

[@Lord_Verminaard]

Run that shifter cart at the strip! I bet it's faster than the rail!

[@1986RX7FC]

Your right about the aerodynamics. Since the intake is on the rear of the engine you might have some negative pressure there so the engine isn't drawing in enough air. Try a scoop to pull in more air from around the engine to direct air into the intake. It might help achieve your goal. Wouldn't hurt to try. Also try putting a couple more pounds of air in the tires for less rolling resistance but it might make the cart a bit more bouncy.

[@Joel_Mullins06]

Das pretty neat

[@dano4572]

Good for you!,, and good for you and doing what your loved ones wanted. That's just cool! Yehp theres more crazyness to follow! just sayin

[@aBBlade1]

I want to see it on a kart track, that could be a wicked track machine

[@mynameisntleo]

I didn't realize you got the miata back up and running that soon after it had problems. But maybe I wasn't paying attention hard enough.

[@CarsandCameras]

We didn't film it. We were able to fix it without pulling the trans or anything else major. Took like 2 hours thankfully.

[@connercoley1561]

I subbed

[@coyoteden3773]

that helmet isn't gonna help much unless you actually strap it on...lol..but i do the same dumb stuff sometimes

[@LoudValves]

Bring the Ducarti out to this road! oh baby!

[@darrenkastl8160]

Damn that axle just jumped into vice!!!i

[@kevinrutherford5552]

Diarrhea town = weight reduction

[@Lance_59]

I think we need a drag rail with a chevy 350 who else wants to see that

[@nathanbutler8240]

Lance Trombly way to heavy when they could use the same rail they have and put a turbo rotory and have excellent power to weight

[@Lance_59]

Why because its a chevy motor it’s easy to fix and the parts don’t cost much and you can get a lot of power out of it

[@nathanbutler8240]

Lance Trombly i agree its cheap and easy but at that point why build a mini dragster and why not a full size front engine dragster at that point. When all you gotta do is put a small turbo rotory that would fit there mini dragster and get 3x the power with gears

[@Lance_59]

You got a point but it would be pretty badass for them to make something like that

[@noooooooooooooooooo240]

350's are old, man. an L33 would kick ass but thats a lot of motor for that lil thing

[@glenpiro313]

Hey guys, Im a newbie here been catching up , loving every minute of it. Just a thought here as I watch this episode, have you ever thought about trying to rig up a couple motorcycle type steering dampers to the front wheels to possibly help those sharp deflections etc? Im not talking and Ohlins or GPR, but when we used to roadrace wed strip all the OEM street stuff off the bikes and replace it with the good stuff, maybe there are some OEM ones available? We put all of it on line for sale etc. Great stuff!

[@mbyrd6580]

I would love to be able to see you guys do some more custom work on your dragster rail maybe some type of supercharger for it or even nitrous on it make it so it's got quite a bit of horsepower and then drag the hell out of it.

[@yeti8it396]

When I was MUCH younger my older brothers used a reinforced go kart frame with a large chain saw motor and went 70ish according to them .

[@thomaswalmer4910]

You should try the other cart found in the barn. The formula style cart you lay down in. I raced those style carts as a kid and could go 100 plus on an oval

[@dellingson4833]

I raced dirt track go cart some years ago. I raced unlimited class. My motor had extras and burned alcohol it had to be based on a 5hp motor. Well the motors cost $800 it put out 14.5 hp. You could run 2 seasons on it, after the first year you just had to put new rings in it and hone the cylinder. After 2nd year rebuild. Racing on a 1/8 mile track at a fair grounds the sheriff was clocking us and said just before slowing for the 3rd corner he clocked us at 65mph. If it hadn't been being in a bad accident i'd still be racing even though it was 20 years ago.

[@georgemicheal9036]

John you need to relax you get way to anxious ,just remember we see you so slow your mind buddy just act like there is know cameras but I really respect your drive buddy your awesome '

[@jackclair6537]

Put this engine on the YERFDOG and gear it LOW like 40 mph. Banging gears an' spitting dirt!

[@chandlerwelch4339]

3:18 haha

[@emrelutoglu6418]

I have the same engine on my 8-year-old dirt bike. It is a solid, low maintenance engine.

[@morteparla6926]

I've gone 74 on my Raptor 700, and just about pissed my pants. Granted that was off-road, but I certainly wouldn't want too be going anywhere near that fast on a go kart. Hell. Get some leathers, some good gloves with wrist support, get a neck brace, chest protector, knee pads, elbow pads and a really, really good helmet -- maybe I'd try it.

[@mmoplayerful1]

73mph on 200cc that’s amazing!!! Now imagine a 125cc two stroke shifter kart top speed (:

[@matthewmattix]

nice