I think Zestiel was mentioned to have died in the 1800s being the oldest overlord but incredibly too young to be Cain.
@_cheruboftolgier_886320 күн бұрын
Cain became immortal in biblical history as he became a vampire by drinking the blood of Lilith There are stories that he had four monster children that he abandoned born in the same litter from Lilith. Because he was known for being a lover of lilith in order to trick her to drink her blood and become a monster He had six human children and 4 boys, Enoch, Olad, Lizpha, and Fosal 2 girls, Citha, and Maac And the rumored 4 monster children with Lilith that were born from the same litter named Tzimisce, Nosferatu, Ravnos, and Gangrel. One of them was a girl! (These were not confirmed, more or less rumored stories) Cain lived to be 730 years old before he died because he was a bloodthirsty monster. He actually became infertile after drinking liliths blood and becoming a vampire. Of course its mythology which changes pretty often through time. And no one knows. I definitely find it funny that christianity contained a vampire. But that could definitely be why there would be such of a different age of death. Especially considering christians believe the earth is less than 4000 years old. It definitely makes you wonder how lore accurate hazbin would be. Since its already pretty far off.
@_cheruboftolgier_886320 күн бұрын
It also gets stranger learning that in mythology, abel was actually 122 years old at the time of his murder. So something was actually very fishy about abels age as well. And adam in mythology lived to be around 130
@twitchzanefn318719 күн бұрын
@@_cheruboftolgier_8863question how did he live sorry I ain’t read the book just to know
@Mangalore62019 күн бұрын
@@twitchzanefn3187 you mean cain
@ericahoff838619 күн бұрын
...i'm pretty sure the 1800's is too late for him. something like 1400's sounds better with the way he spoke.
@a.i.132821 күн бұрын
personal hypothesis: Cain has just been roaming about in hell, so ancient that he has found a way to visit the other circles and connected to the concept of murder. This is a simplified version of what I've been thinking.
@tigerdancer219021 күн бұрын
7 Sins of Hell and 7 Victims of Heaven. Abel being the First Murdered Victim could work in some sort of magic system in the show. 🤔
@josem58821 күн бұрын
I thought you meant 7 virtues
@Saba-tt7xf21 күн бұрын
I think there will be seven virtues of heaven, and probably those so called elder angels are those virtues, if you look at their number there's six of them, seventh was Lucifer until he was kicked out of heaven soo probably Emily was created to be his replacement.
@josem58821 күн бұрын
@@Saba-tt7xf and I imagine that in in the chastity ring everyone looks ugly since they are the opposite of lust
@Saba-tt7xf21 күн бұрын
@@josem588 i mean they are in heaven soo i don't think that anyone there will be ugly, but it would be interesting to see.
@pancakes867021 күн бұрын
@@Saba-tt7xfIf I'm not mistaken, Vivziepop said one time on Twitter that Heaven isn't going to have 7 parts to it like Hell? Am I misremebering that? Can anyone else confirm?
@zolo49noname4521 күн бұрын
I'd theorized months ago that Zestial might be Cain. No idea if it'll turn out to be true, but I just thought it'd create a really cool dynamic between him and the people at the hotel if it turned out to be true. And a potentially REALLY cool dynamic with Adam if it turns out he's not permanently dead. Now that we know Abel will be a character, I think we can be certain that Cain is going to appear in the show somehow, regardless of whether it's Zestial or as a new character.
@GrimReaper_TTV21 күн бұрын
In the original thing Cain was cursed to walk the earth forever so if the show adapted this we might never see Cain unless he shows up in helluva boss when imp goes to the human world
@pancakes867020 күн бұрын
@@GrimReaper_TTVIt's literally addressed in the video that Cains curse was not to wander the Earth forever, but only for 7 generations.
@NobodyUndefined20 күн бұрын
Maybe im wrong but ive always thought that Zestial was supposed to be black, maybe because his VA is black. Also he doesnt speak like Abel or Adam, he has a different accent/dialect so i feel like he isn't Cain
@christopherh489120 күн бұрын
@@NobodyUndefined yea Zestial speaks in like what most would consider old English like shakespearian. He is one of the older being but not the oldest being. I would hazard guess there to be at least some humans from Adams time that went to hell, such as Cain or any others. Thoughhhh we don't know for sure if he is not hellborn or not.
@DanBacksIide21 күн бұрын
Zestial is Cain? No, impcut is Cain
@caveychip721 күн бұрын
No Cain is Caine from the amazing digital circus.
@aromatic-albatross902621 күн бұрын
@caveychip7 LMAO
@NoVocalChords21 күн бұрын
NO I’M CAIN.
@Skeletor_facts-u6t21 күн бұрын
@@NoVocalChords guys, we're all Cain
@NoVocalChords20 күн бұрын
@@Skeletor_facts-u6t indeed.
@thatoneroyaldude360621 күн бұрын
I kinda really wanna see Charlie interacting with Cain if he's going to be a brother of some sort to her. I wonder if he would be another sort of antagonist for the hotel?
@FlimFlemFlom21 күн бұрын
I think it'd be hilarious if he's a kind soul who killed Abel on accident
@samurexatlas737321 күн бұрын
@@FlimFlemFlomIn the books Abel was slain out of envy.
@thornd906021 күн бұрын
@samurexatlas7373 as shown the Bible will not be the end all be all source for the show. Cain could have killed abel in a heated moment and immediately regretted it.
@FlimFlemFlom21 күн бұрын
@@samurexatlas7373 Yes, but there hasn't been a God in the show yet, and I can see them making the Angels VERY biased towards Abel, that they're labeling it as an envious murder, when in reality it was an accident
@SilverScribe8521 күн бұрын
If Cain would be a brother figure for Charlie...what familial role would JESUS be for her
@TheBigE999921 күн бұрын
Calling it now, the elders elected him to abel to take adam's place out of the idea that since adam raised him, he'd be like him. Abel's gonna be a totally nice goober that actually wants to be buds with Charlie, but Lute is manipulating him to be a scapegoat/patsy while she rallys the actual exorcists for total war
@bahesb241921 күн бұрын
I think able is actually going to be the opposite of his father: Kind, humble, a bit of a dork but in a cute way but far too naive, something sera and lute might take advantage of to manipulate him.
@GrimReaper_TTV21 күн бұрын
I saw the leaks but don’t wanna spoil it for you but I know if what u said is true or not (the leaks tell me the answer but I’m gonna spoil it bc that’s a dick move)
@S3r4phhh19 күн бұрын
@@YourLocalRod3nt abel died when he was probably in his adult years, considering he was a sheperd in charge of his own flock
@kingcamelot139517 күн бұрын
@@YourLocalRod3ntDied young? Adam and his children typically lived into their 100's.
@Sunny_DeeLight15 күн бұрын
@@kingcamelot1395I thought Adam lived to be 900? (In the Bible)
@kingcamelot139515 күн бұрын
@@Sunny_DeeLight You could be right. All the Bibles I read as a kid never talked about how long the first humans lived. Or why we don't live that long anymore.
@BrandonJames201621 күн бұрын
Cain is definitely gonna be one of the strongest sinners fs being the son of Adam would make him pretty powerful.
@chaosholle576021 күн бұрын
And the first killer for sure but it could also be that its not to be because what sera said that adam was the first soul in heaven it could be that cain killedadam first then able but thats for the future to say
@andmos100121 күн бұрын
Or Cain is still on Earth, forever to walk the earth
@solo832421 күн бұрын
@chaosholle5760 Of all the first humans, Cain alone is not a saint. That is, we have Saints Adam, Eve and Abel. But, Cain forever chose to stand against God. Even when Christ hallowed Hades and saved Sts. Adam and Eve, Cain chose to remain away from God. He is *the* archetype of the unrepentant sinner. I'm absolutely certain that he'd be the most powerful and ruthless of them all.
@zeleeba877421 күн бұрын
The number of soul and power of those souls make you stronger not age
@mckennalester224821 күн бұрын
andmos1001 i mean he is cursed
@IndigoOrcaCat21 күн бұрын
Cain is also an immortal wanderer of Earth in the DC series Lucifer, and he's introduced with his primary goal being to die. Imagine a character like that being the target of I.M.P. in Helluva Boss. Shenanigans!
@jrr248020 күн бұрын
Fun Fact: According to the Old English poem Beowulf, Grendel and his mother are dependents of Cain. Also in Beowulf, Tolkien got the word Orc from.
@justnoob814117 күн бұрын
So you’re saying that he would only appear in Helluva Boss?
@jrr248014 күн бұрын
@@justnoob8141 🤷♂️
@realrealwarpet20 күн бұрын
Fun fact, lucifer in the bible is actually just the king of babylon. The text was mocking him.
@sashmiel656620 күн бұрын
This show hardly follows anything other than borrowing character names
@samurexatlas737321 күн бұрын
You know, if they split Cain and Abel among the Hellaverse shows, that could be fun. Especially when we now know all 7 sins.
@victoryangel2921 күн бұрын
There is reference to Cains death in the Book of Jubilees in that he lived to be about 700 years old. The day he died he had been building a house of stone which fell upon him leading him to suffer the same fate of his brother Abel.
@scratchv1nce76621 күн бұрын
Samael was probably Lucifer's old angel name
@pancakes867020 күн бұрын
If I'm not mistaken, there's some funky translation around the name Samael. It could possibly be referring to an entire tribe of Fallen Angels, or just the one.
@vpgbreezy379420 күн бұрын
Lucifer is his angel name haha but I kno there is sum evidence showing it could be Samael tho
@scratchv1nce76620 күн бұрын
@@vpgbreezy3794 Well, Samaël is still a very credible candidate, ending with the famous "-el" that means "god" in hebrew like most archangels. As well as being Lucifer's real name in the Netflix series too. And I won't be surprised if Vivziepop decides to make that canon to facilitate the story.
@averytherockgod982220 күн бұрын
Or that it’s not even a fallen Angel but instead the Avenging Angel or even the Angel of the Lord. It’s weird, some denominations of Christianity and Judaism basically consider Samael to be analogous with Satan/Lucifer, and possibly Satan/Lucifer’s original name as an angel, whereas others consider him to be another angel entirely who is actually an avenging angel who acts as a hand of God to punish sinners. While others sort of consider him to be a hybrid of the two. However I think most likely Samael wasn’t originally the name of the Satan/Lucifer figure, but instead the name originally referring to this figure is Belial which we first see being a name of the devil in the Dead Sea Scrolls which r some of the oldest piece of Abrahamic literature, and his name fits the motif of all angel names ending in “-el” or “-al”
@QuwapaQuwapus20 күн бұрын
People in replies: *discussing possibility of claim based on real life inspiration of the characters * Me: hey I saw that show too
@LorienInksong21 күн бұрын
I wonder if Zestial represents a root fear of humanity; arachnophobia. Loads of people have it, and many have it bad. I feel like that could explain why so many sinners are terrified of him on sight, even going so far as to faint or light themselves on fire. (Lots of people still respond to spider photos with 'kill it with fire', maybe there's a link there?) As much as I think it'd be cool if he was Caine it really wouldn't explain the intense spider theming.
@lightjones989421 күн бұрын
Sense because Zestial speaks The Shakespearean era grammar, apartment believes that he's most likely not Cain.
@arkiromi_is_awsome21621 күн бұрын
since you added an e to the word cain hes now a pair of dentures torturing a rabbit a doll and chess piece a jester a pair of red ribbons and a mix of random stuff
@juliaboskamp966621 күн бұрын
Like in season one i thought he would have been some kind of Jack the ripper caracter (not the real Jack the ripper, but a sirial killer in a time before it really got the name it has now). I'm corios if they will meet, only time will tell like even season one had some thing that nobody expected.
@lightjones989421 күн бұрын
@@arkiromi_is_awsome216 My dumb speaker
@reallynotsogoldenisopod21 күн бұрын
Personnally, I don't think Abel will seek outright revenge for Adam's as Lute already fills that role. He might be shaken and grow to dislike Charlie and her Hotel for a while, but once he understands the full context he would eventually let go if the grudge. That being said, I could see Lute manipulating him into fighting on her side to tip the scales, assuming his power is close to his father's.
@ThomasDoyle-r7u21 күн бұрын
You should do a video on what exactly what Octavia's power is
@ThomasDoyle-r7u21 күн бұрын
And stolas (well before he lost his powers)
@0valeyes21 күн бұрын
Am thinking it of twilight magic with her having star like close pattern.
@AspieMemoires21 күн бұрын
Basically Astral magic.
@0valeyes21 күн бұрын
@@AspieMemoires So the incantations could in a way references to know star constellations so I personally thought.
@felixhenson992621 күн бұрын
@@ThomasDoyle-r7u yeah Stolas we know for sure deals w the stars and space and darkness and prophecy. Octavia used a v similar looking power to the way Stolas's looked. But we haven't seen Stella use any magic at all yet.
@ISAFMobius1821 күн бұрын
Cain being an immortal in earth could work. In the live action series Lucifer, Cain was also portrayed this way. He's spent countless generations at first just doing everything he wanted. Then at some point grew tired of being alive, so he was trying to redeem himself and earn his death. And becomes a Homicide Detective when we meet him, ironically. Also in the show Abel is actually in hell because he was seen as a party animal. He never took things seriously and reveled in a life of sin.
@josem58820 күн бұрын
I thought he re incarnated but lost his memories as an Angel and if he has any he thinks they are a dream
@ISAFMobius1820 күн бұрын
@josem588 you mean Abel? No I think he possessed a human but thought he was still in hell. Cause they were trying to have the brothers reconcile if I remember correctly
@Ether101_Prime20 күн бұрын
Cain showing up as a 3rd party and possibly being Lucifer's son could be a neat way to shake things up, re-contextualize past events, and source of conflict for Charlie.
@sumireokamura21 күн бұрын
Headcanon: Adam would change his mind about the hotel when Cain is redeemed.
@summertime678521 күн бұрын
@@sumireokamura Kinda hard to do that when Adam’s currently(as Angel put it) *double dead.*
@krembryle21 күн бұрын
@@summertime6785 maybe he is alive in hell? if sir Pentious is in heaven I mean-
@summertime678521 күн бұрын
@ Viv herself confirmed Adam is *dead.* He may be back in another form, but he is dead.
@PhoenixCent21 күн бұрын
@@summertime6785that can easily be to throw us off💀💀
@GrimReaper_TTV21 күн бұрын
@@summertime6785someone asked if he’d be back she said she doesn’t know meaning she doesnt know if she’ll actually bring him back but if you saw the leaks then you know what I’m talking about
@sonicspeedproductions2.0421 күн бұрын
For those who dont know Abel is nothing like Adam therefore Adam hates him.
@mckennalester224821 күн бұрын
sonicspeedproductions2.04 that is correct
@cathygrandstaff195721 күн бұрын
Cain still being alive would open up some interesting potential story arcs where he’s the man behind the curtains, like perhaps he’s the one influencing the humans to be more sinful, or he may be who is giving the DHORKS all their funding since he would be one of the few people on Earth that would believe them about demon incursions. It depends whether modern Cain would be a scourge or protector to humanity. On the other hand him being dead would allow for some interactions with Abel and Charlie. For some reason I picture Cain being some sort of hermit who’s just been living alone chilling for millennia in a quiet part of the Pride Ring outside Pentagram City.
@Mangacide21 күн бұрын
Every time I look at his outfit I wonder if it's supposed to reference the Little Drummer Boy Edit: "Pleased to meet you; hope you guess my name" but it's Cain instead of lucifer is an interesting idea.
@lightjones989421 күн бұрын
I wouldn't doubt it.
@0valeyes21 күн бұрын
Well he look like a bell hop at first glance.
@Mangacide21 күн бұрын
@@0valeyes yeah kind of. Marching band uniforms and bellhop uniforms do have some overlap in design and he IS holding bells xD
@0valeyes21 күн бұрын
@@Mangacide Well for all I know he going to be setup like a puppet if something goes wrong.
@LeeBodenheimer20 күн бұрын
0:40 adam and even
@primordial-chaos0021 күн бұрын
Meanwhile Seth is watching from a distant being the children who is the mature one getting thing done unliked his siblings.
@tmacm223721 күн бұрын
My theory is that Cain is Adam and Lilith's son and Abel is Adam and Eve's son.
@CjDagoat-jb2el21 күн бұрын
That’s a plot twist🥶but Abel has Adam eyes so Eve definitely was made somewhat like Lilith …
@sammcfarlane249421 күн бұрын
And I hope Abel is a good guy in the season.
@sonicspeedproductions2.0421 күн бұрын
He is don't worry
@bubbleteaop21 күн бұрын
And maybe also being a funny character
@HunterPoppleton21 күн бұрын
Imagine cain is like a half brother or stepbrother of Charlie
@DeddyLikumahuwa21 күн бұрын
that what i say!.
@prowolf63320 күн бұрын
I’m saying a twist villain
@rainbowtoyfunrandomess198221 күн бұрын
Poor Abel, he has a very rude father even though he's meant to be the first man on Earth and the fact he got murdered by Cain. Abel deserves to be protected at all costs.🥺😊
@mckennalester224821 күн бұрын
rainbowtoyfunrandomess1982 agree hes adorable # protect the bean
@rainbowtoyfunrandomess198221 күн бұрын
@mckennalester2248 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
@josem58820 күн бұрын
@@mckennalester2248 they say now he wanders earth (I imagine he has re incarnated but has lost his memories as an Angel and if he has any he thinks they are a dream)
@keiyoung3421 күн бұрын
It makes sense to me for Zestial to be Cain, now. It would explain his vernacular, and spider like appearance. Maybe he wonders on earth still as a spider. Forever on the brink of death but can not be killed. It could also be assumed that Angel's family are descendants that he either doesn't know or care about. It would explain the addictions, etc. Side note* I do wonder if Alastor is greater than we know. I've only seen the Sins be able to ample themselves in size when angered. Even Charlie stays the same size. I haven't seen another Demon or overlord be able to do such a thing.
@tobsonasanya476511 күн бұрын
It makes no sense at all lol
@alfredhinton879221 күн бұрын
Demons go by different names than when they were human
@N0AH785520 күн бұрын
Adam was severely underused hopefully Able has more screen time and doesn’t end up dead
@Noober_Edits454521 күн бұрын
I swear if Zestial is Cain that would be such a good plot twist
@ElisioDolgan21 күн бұрын
If Cain will be a next villain in Hazbin Hotel I imagine him as Caine from TADC. Like, having a God complex, trapping sinner souls into the Envy Ring and immortalizing them just so they can suffer eternally. Soon after, a battle between him, Lucifer and Leviathan will ensue.
@GrimReaper_TTV21 күн бұрын
Impossible Cain can only be in the pride ring it’s been confirmed all sinners are stuck in pride they physically can’t leave the pride ring meaning that’s where all sinners are
@ElisioDolgan21 күн бұрын
@GrimReaper_TTV But when Vox said that the future of hell belongs to the Vees does this mean the entirety of the realm or just the Pride Ring? What if he's dumb to not know the density of hell the depth.
@awesomeii834621 күн бұрын
@ElisioDolgan its metaphorical
@ElisioDolgan21 күн бұрын
@@awesomeii8346 So Pride Ring Just
@SodaliteTheWolf6720 күн бұрын
@@GrimReaper_TTVCain stuck on Earth though
@aftoncultistandsimp21 күн бұрын
Apparently ppl hate Abel’s design? He looks fine!
@mckennalester224821 күн бұрын
aftoncultistandsimp what how dare them he is so cuite
@josem58821 күн бұрын
@@mckennalester2248 probably since it isn’t biblically accurate
@mckennalester224817 күн бұрын
josem588 an so what he is adorable i like it
@josem58817 күн бұрын
@@mckennalester2248 I know it he also looks like Adam but he doesn’t treat women as his butlers
@dot368620 күн бұрын
It would be cool if Cain did die and went to hell, and despite being an earthborn demon, became an eternal wanderer of hell and found a way to the other rings
@monstrouspegasister14 күн бұрын
Considering Cain was the first murderer, I figured he'd have some sort of immortal status (like how Lilith was the first Sinner).
@HorizonStudios0921 күн бұрын
6:12 Seven times vengeance... so I guess you could say he'd be... Avenged Sevenfold lol (Fun fact, that's where the band gets their name from)
@thingsihate_333319 күн бұрын
Oh I know! Chapter 4 is by far among my favorites of A7X! Oh, that first album was legendary, my first intro to hard rock. Growing up my family was very Christian and very controlling and once I played Chapter 4 at my church youth group as my favorite song (which I thought was fine since it was a biblical nature) got in SO much trouble! 😅 Ahh, memories. I'm glad I came across your comment, that made my day. 😁
@ladybetrayus6921 күн бұрын
Abel looks like the person in heaven who's in charge of giving hugs
@randompandagirl83120 күн бұрын
Abel is already going to be chilled they showed him in the leaks and he seemed more like a surfer bro vs a dude bro like his father.
@marcioadrianocardoso893620 күн бұрын
Yall are forgotting one detail: if Cain exists, he would not be in Hell. In the bible, he was literally cursed to wander on Earth forever.
@prowolf63321 күн бұрын
I feel Cain could be a redemption candidate (4th one in my count after Mimzy, Baxter, and Crymini) while Abel (and Eve) might be like his father (maybe a plot twist kind) and end up double dead as a villain
@arifanrizkynanda333521 күн бұрын
In Season 2 Leaks, That Abel is A Very Good Boy Just Like Vassago in Helluva Boss In My Headcanon For Abel's Voice Actors is Could Be Bryce Papenbrook (Adrien Agreste/Cat Noir)
@The_Sturmtruppen20 күн бұрын
One of things I noticed that people aren't really talking about. The HB/HH Universe has much more in common with Judaism than it does Catholicism.
@lightjones989421 күн бұрын
The only main Pro that will come with Zestial being Cain would be preventing the main cast from becoming even more bloated up.
@sammcfarlane249421 күн бұрын
Merry Christmas and have a happy New Year
@aysealtn166920 күн бұрын
🎄🎁🎄🎉🎊🥳🥳🥂🥂🎅🏻🎅🏻🎅🏻🎅🏻
@JS06-h5d21 күн бұрын
1:14 he is a visionary he is a revolutionary he is…
@JS06-h5d21 күн бұрын
Leaked fight scenes between cain and Seth leaked www.google.com/url?q=www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DkPE4MIjc7HI&sa=U&sqi=2&ved=2ahUKEwjWseHZk8aKAxX3XEEAHRYbI8cQwqsBegQICxAF&usg=AOvVaw3MsdfXG26UWFnRQZlPaAeM
@bubbleteaop21 күн бұрын
I hope in the second installment Abel and Cain play a supporting or maybe major role later on.
@its_just_lag20 күн бұрын
People don't always become insane if they see a Lovecraftian creature, they become insane if they don't have a strong enough mined
@kristopherbarker328220 күн бұрын
Look, if Cain is still alive, I will be disappointed if they dont make him Bigfoot
@Firefighter1419921 күн бұрын
5:18 I just love Leviathan's design!
@mckennalester224821 күн бұрын
Firefighter14199 you know it kinda grow on me leviathian is two headed in demonolgy but isnt female
@tatalsaba21 күн бұрын
If Cain was still a human wandering the earth, it'd make more sense for him to appear in Helluva Boss rather than Hazbin Hotel, especially as a foil for how much more merciful I.M.P. has become as of late (Blitz would NOT kill his sister) not to mention how much more famous he'd be to sinners and hellborn demons alike, not just for nhaving comitted the first murder, but because he's essentially gotten away with it, but since Abel is set to appear in Hazbin Hotel, Cain not being there is an extremely wasted opportunity. The creators can't afford to discard this option. If it turns out Zestial is Cain, his long stay in Hell could be a side effect of his punishment as a wanderer, it'd make a sadistic sense for him to continue wandering Hell. Or, his Mark of Cain has kept him safe from the rampaging angels every year. The least likely option is that Adam has kept his hand over his eldest son, while the most likely is that he's cunning and resourceful enough to keep himself alive every extermination.
@Firefighter1419921 күн бұрын
Man, I can't stop commenting on how cute and adorable Emily is at 0:01 !
@summertime678521 күн бұрын
@@Firefighter14199 🤞Emily must be protected at all costs in future seasons.🤞✊🔛🪵
@Firefighter1419921 күн бұрын
@summertime6785 what about Abel?
@HunterPoppleton21 күн бұрын
Imagine they have an angel is more wise and has logic than the other angels, sera doesn’t count, because she doesn’t know what its take to get into heaven
@summertime678521 күн бұрын
@@Firefighter14199 As of right now, I don’t know Abel’s character well enough to make a decision. We’ll have to wait for Season 2 to see.(But I have a bad feeling he’s gonna end up becoming a villain.)
@Firefighter1419921 күн бұрын
@@summertime6785 but Abel's the Angel of Faith, not War.
@LifeWithProHD20 күн бұрын
Im just gonna say that if Abel is now confirmed to be in Season 2 than Cain and Seth should be shown as well in Hazbin Hotel Season 2, I don't know what role Seth could play but for Cain him being Lucifer's son would be fascinating because that means Charlie has an older half brother, and if Cain does appear, I hope he sings and whoever his voice actor is I hope they have an amazing singing voice because I picture Cain singing with a opera like voice.
@countrychic3020 күн бұрын
It does make some sense that Zestial could be Cain. There is really no telling how old Zestial is, what year he died on earth, and how long he has been making soul deals in hell(possibly a few centuries or so) and with Cain since he killed his brother and possibly died not long after thus ending up in hell(possibly the first sinner to end up in hell) and decided to change his appearance and his name so no one would remember who he was when he was alive. Could be a very good season if Zestial is really Cain in disguise and wanting revenge on Abel if he comes to the hotel. With Abel I can see him as Adam's half son-in the bible it says when Lucifer gave Eve the apple he took advantage of her and she became pregnant with Abel so he could be Lucifer's son and Adam just decided to raise Abel into believing he was his real father instead of Lucifer himself. I can see Abel leading a marching band(due to his uniform looking like a band uniform) and probably not knowing anything of the exterminations and Adam being who he is not telling Abel anything besides telling him all about Hell-in his own way by song- and Abel who seems like he would be a gentle soul and not wanting to question anything goes with what his dad says. I can see Abel and Emily being best friends in Heaven and Lute telling him what happened to his dad-song as well but with her twisting the story into the sinners and Lucifer killing his dad instead of telling him the truth and her persuading Abel into taking revenge against the hotel with Abel probably never been in any kind of war scenarios gets trained some by Lute , Abel not wanting to believe anything she says and not wanting to hear what all Adam lied about goes to Hell disguised as a sinner or a fallen angel bumps into Zestial(cain in disguise unknown to Abel) who fights him and Abel gets away and finds himself in front of the hotel, meets Charlie and after some time after getting to know of her plans and Lucifer and a few things Lute lied of to him, goes back to heaven-just before another extermination happens Abel confronts Lute about everything, she denies some of it and says a few insulting things to him, Abel flies away and Emily comforts Abel and reveals to him the whole truth to him-she shows him what happened and what led to his dad's death and they both team up and rush to get to the hotel just before the battle really starts up and Abel reveals the truth to everyone in song and decides to help protect the hotel and everyone in hell-emily helps to- Lute and the angel army comes, they all fight, Abel nearly gets killed by Lute but is saved by Emily and Charlie and Lute gets blinded and whatever is left of the army goes back to heaven with Lute along with them or she herself gets her wings taken away and is stuck in hell with everyone who hates her, Abel becomes good friends with Charlie and everyone in the hotel and even helps her dream of redeeming sinners and Zestial comes along and decides to "help out" with the plans for the hotel/sinners and reveals himself to Abel and a fight ensues leaving to a cliffhanger and next off to season 3?
@TheBigE999921 күн бұрын
i guess it never occured to me that abel woud be a legit boy, even though his whole story is about being the first unnatural death
@torablack19 күн бұрын
As somebody who wasn't raised following one of the abrahamic religions I do appreciate hearing about the mythology and lore around the Abrahamic religions. When it comes to demonology the abrahamic religions are rather interesting.
@aleksabanjevic831620 күн бұрын
Idea The von Eldritch family could be members of the possesor/infestor species. While Zestial, if he's not a sinner, could be the same species as the 2 spider demons we saw working in lust in "full moon". (still mad we are getting no info on the lust spiders, jester skeletons, plague doctors or rafes)
@mckennalester224817 күн бұрын
aleksabanjevic8316 totally agree with you Hmm lust spider he looks like them but he is asexual he is married to carmilla but he is a plotunic husband
@MrWarners1421 күн бұрын
I feel like Cain will play a larger part in the story, given he is one is one of the most infamous people in the Bible. I feel like ignoring him would do a disservice to Abel as I think his role will be important given Vivsie’s insistence on how long the series will go on for. I also think this’ll tie into Lilith’s story as well.
@elenaG120820 күн бұрын
Adam was human and his character design includes ears, Abel was human and his design has ears. All the sinners were human once, but they don't have (visible) ears in their designs, excluding anyone that has animal ears. I thought this was a sinner thing, but no heavenly citizens have human ears either. So I wonder if Cain will end up having ears included in his design?
@kachiedits623120 күн бұрын
Lucifer being the father of cain could explain the divorce between him and lilith ngl
@dillicopter266520 күн бұрын
⚠️SPOILERS!!!!⚠️ Since it’s been confirmed that Alex Brightman will return to voice Adam (we don’t know in what context yet), what if Adam becomes a sinner demon to parallel Pentious’ ascension to Heaven, and as we are introduced to Abel in Heaven we also get introduced to Cain in Hell?
@sonicspeedproductions2.0420 күн бұрын
Spoiler Alert He is not a sinner but a thought/ghost in Lute's mind
@sonicspeedproductions2.0420 күн бұрын
Viv said Adam wouldn't be back as a sinner
@kavinaderrow326916 күн бұрын
My inner SCP fan was like: ◉_◉
@whiterabbit411321 күн бұрын
Im both pissed and excited for season 2; pissed cuz I've seen the leaks and know a good chunk of what supposedly happens, but excited to see it come to life
@leonarddement343221 күн бұрын
Lucifer did say, "it's not like your first wife rejected what I had to offer. OR the second, bow chica wow wow...."
@tobsonasanya476511 күн бұрын
He was joking
@JustSomeGuy84920 күн бұрын
Nearly two hours on an hour and eight-teen minute long video is a wild thing to say.
@Ethan-g9y21 күн бұрын
I recon Cain may be Charlie in viziepops theme of the bible
@berniedavis667621 күн бұрын
i would love it if Cain was now KANE from WWE and is an immortal fire demon who found family with the UNDERTAKER.
@pbmwjbenz-bg3rb21 күн бұрын
I want to see Cain as a vampire just like vampire the masquerade.
@jetsmultiverse411521 күн бұрын
I would love to see Able come to the hotel and maybe even try to help, tho not necessarily become a main character. Present and often seen around the place if that makes sense
@Regothelego20 күн бұрын
Hearing the word ‘Abel’ unlocked about a library of memories from my scp era
@sarahserenityqueen11721 күн бұрын
I still believe the theory about ""Lilith"" being Eve to be true. Looking at photos between the "'Lilith"" at the end of season 1 and the Lilith in family photographs, you can see stark differences between the two. I genuinely believe that at some point Adam and Eve kidnapped the real Lilith at some point in Charlie's childhood and Eve posed as her in exchange for being allowed back into Paradise since she was casted out for eating the apple of knowledge. I think if Adam reappears in hell as a sinner, in order to be redeemed and allowed back into heaven, he may turn on Eve and sell her out to Lucifer.
@monstrouspegasister14 күн бұрын
What are the differences? I'm actually kinda curious.
@chaosspear019521 күн бұрын
If Cain were to be Lucifers son in the show it would give the joke when fighting Adam more actual credence with his him saying to Adam “ you’re fist wife didn’t mind… nor did the second “ but would they actually make Lucy cheat on Lilith ? Could that be part of their separation ? Will Cain come back in play somehow ? Maybe make a move for the throne of Hell being Lucys first born ? So many questions
@evanlandis99021 күн бұрын
1:56 so..... Charlie has a half brother?
@mckennalester224821 күн бұрын
evanlandis990 difenitly i mean do you think this sweet bean isnt i do i think lilith is the mom
@marianafandoms74821 күн бұрын
The most similar thing is having two half-siblings
@summertime678521 күн бұрын
@@evanlandis990 Part of me is hoping *Zoophobia’s Damian* is adapted into the show as Lucifer’s illegitimate son and Charlie’s younger half-brother(but he’s in his 20s in show.) I feel like it would be a fun dynamic between them.
@number_7_only20 күн бұрын
Oooooo drama 🍿
@tobsonasanya476511 күн бұрын
No
@Kovy200321 күн бұрын
Did You Know That Abel Is Name After The Weeknd's Real Name
@zakirstocks951421 күн бұрын
Abel looks so Interesting in this Video. Hope we'll all be able to see him soon in the Upcoming Season 2 of *Hazbin Hotel.* And, Also, didn't know Cain was Adam and Eve's son, and is the brother of Abel.
@-Kalamity21 күн бұрын
Yes, myth cut is there 🤩
@sharkymsm21 күн бұрын
What’s that
@josem58820 күн бұрын
@@sharkymsm probably the blue thing that is always sleep in the background
@-Kalamity20 күн бұрын
@@sharkymsm Myth Cut is Deep Cut when he makes a mythology video. Like Helluva Boss Imp Cut and by Murder Drones Drone Cut.
@matthewlunde527020 күн бұрын
I actually created a story arc for Cain. Even gave him an appearance.
@dylemmma8 күн бұрын
it would be very funny if they found Cain either dead pan looking at citizen of hell thinking that things as ridiculous as what lucifer sees, or he just constantly a proud uncle who said 'u go girl'
@walkingcorpse270419 күн бұрын
Zestial's death is far too close to current time to be Cain
@dopedog1st53219 күн бұрын
1:59 “well your first wife didn’t seem to hate what I had to offer,or the second bowchikawowow”BRO WAS NOT KIDDING!!!!I think o know why Lilith left…
@craftingxd27720 күн бұрын
Just as a theory AND I WOULD LIKE LEAK FREE- What if instead of Lute taking over it was Abel? Cause Lute is so focused on her being the new leader and maybe Abel was meant to be next in line instead of Lute? This had me thinking cause Lute is a lower power and with Abel being Adam's son, he would be the next leader. But that's a theory! LIKE I SAID- NO LEAKS TO SAY IF IM RIGHT OR WRONG!
@gabriellaalsous756920 күн бұрын
My immediate first thought To after he said if you haven’t seen it, there’s this new Christmas post. I’m like how could I have not seen it every single has been Hotel KZbinr.
@Edog760921 күн бұрын
I'm more inclined to believe Zestial may be associated with Cain rather than being Cain. If anything, Cain, the first sinner, probably founded the black market in hell.
@MewDenise21 күн бұрын
People are trying to make this story so complicated by wanting Eve to have birthed a child by Lucifer so bad.
@planet-eater2.05621 күн бұрын
Cain could live as an immortal among humans and work with Lilith. Cain could have shown Alastor how to use dark magic during his lifetime for later service. And Lilith could then have helped Alastor become an Overlord. Both Cain and Lilith would have reasons to wish Adam dead. (He was a ... husband and certainly an almost equally bad father.) In addition, both could strive for a change in the current rules of heaven, earth and hell. Cain is doomed to live forever and can therefore never go to heaven or hell even if he wanted to. And Lilith didn't really have a choice either. Roo could also play a role in the plan of the two or be the mastermind. It's also clear why they're only starting now. It took some time to find a suitable person like Alastor and until Charlie was born, Lilith only had to worry about herself. Maybe Lilith even believed at the beginning that she would be able to change the rules without help.
@thisnamehaschangedthanksto818520 күн бұрын
Cain just got absorbed by a computer and made an AI that now torments suckers inside a virtual world
@ZachSeineVideos20 күн бұрын
Later in life Cain became a cab driver in Los Angeles... ...or someone who reloaded his save game so many times, he finally got the right RNG to win the game. ( Shoutout to everyone who gets both. )
@summertime678521 күн бұрын
I have a theory that Abel is actually going to end up being a villain later on in the show(he didn’t like his father Adam, but he also doesn’t believe that demons deserve any mercy). I could be wrong, but anything is possible. Hope we get a trailer for Season 2 soon. Side Note: 🤞I *REALLY HOPE* nothing bad happens to *Emily* in future seasons and if she does hypothetically end up becoming *Fallen,* she’s given asylum in the Hazbin Hotel by Charlie and co.🤞✊🔛🪵
@lightjones989421 күн бұрын
Just bring back and redeem Adam.😭😭😭😭
@Axinia-s1b21 күн бұрын
@@lightjones9894Adam’s gonna be revived by Baxter in Frankensteinian style because why else to have such character as mad scientist in the plot if he won’t do something like that
@lightjones989421 күн бұрын
@Axinia-s1b I can dig it.
@year7high71116 күн бұрын
Eh no@@Axinia-s1b
@felixhenson992621 күн бұрын
They showed Abel but not Cain? Feels a bit... Abelist 😂😂😂
@infinityzer05420 күн бұрын
6:13 or its a side effect of "being" eldritch. they cause madness (Cthulhu causes crippling brain madness when looking at him in his true form)
@AuroraPaintBrush444421 күн бұрын
You know what would be kinda funny? Vegans using Cain as a mascot. The farmer that was shunned by God? Maybe my humor is bad lol
@ryanlaurie873320 күн бұрын
Part of me kinda hopes that Abel isn't like his father but it's actually more of an oblivious dork. not malicious exactly but having some issues with the real world and consequences because he's basically the first rich kid.
@sigma132821 күн бұрын
1:10, finally someone acknowledges Seth, Everyone knows Cain and Able but Seth is always the forgotten child
@tron-a-con370018 күн бұрын
It was confirmed by either Viv or one of crew members that Zestial is a sinner that died in either 1700s or 1800s
@Acefdiamonds21 күн бұрын
Abel might've tooken over the extermination judging by the outfit and the adam's A on his hat
@eaglescout198420 күн бұрын
Cain's wandering in a digital realm.
@MewDenise21 күн бұрын
A lot of funny art being done of Adam being a embarrassing supporting dad to Abel. But why do I think that won't be the case? I'd think this Adam would have liked Cain more.
@mastergamerg-tt2jv20 күн бұрын
great video and it could be possible that Cain is the leader of DHORKS since he is a wonderer? and about Roo can you make a video about comparing her and Eris the goddess of Chaos from Sinbad: Legend of the Seven Seas
@XdKobradX28920 күн бұрын
I agree with the wanderer theory, specially because I liked the concept in Netflix/DC's Lucifer's Cain