FORD TO FIX ECOBOOST ENGINE FAILURES

[@as-h3928]

Can't thank you enough for making this video. My 2018 Ford Focus suffered a wet belt failure at 33000 miles. Been chasing my tail trying to find my cars service history as Ford customer care said they would not touch the car unless it had a full service history. They never mentioned the 2020 gap (this was the only one I was missing). Sent my case back and it has been approved for repair. 6 weeks without my car so far, what a nightmare.

[@carukchannel]

Fantastic to hear, I have pinned this post to show how content like this can spread the word and help so many people affected by this issue. Glad you got it all sorted 👍

[@as-h3928]

@@carukchannel absolutely, without the additional information it's likely that I would have covered it myself. My repairs aren't scheduled until mid-July unfortunately. I'll be interested to see what version of the engine is put back into the car when they get around to it

[@NigelSmith-rh7bl]

Just had my belt changed.! 44k miles but 7 yes old.!£1500.,!!!! Bloody ridiculous....

[@eddiek821]

​@as-h3928 Trouble is the 19 plate onwards engine went to a chain but the oil pump is still on a wet belt so the same is still going to happen.

[@eddiek821]

​@@NigelSmith-rh7blMy local independent garage are changing them for £600 with the correct tools that only ford reckon they have to make you think you can only go to them for it.

[@ThomasKilkenny]

You've played your part in getting us this far. Good on ya' fellah!

[@mikejoseph425]

Thank you for this information. My daughter has just had this issue on her 55k mile 9 year old Fiesta. I just hope she has a full service history

[@tomoreilly9932]

Well done Lee for putting a bee in their bonnet,they can't ignore the problem anymore,and I hope they will help owners financially to change these belt systems.

[@chriswilson263]

Peugeot, Citroen etc should follow suit and repair or replace their troublesome pure tech 1.2 engines.

[@sbrader97]

I thought they already did do a recall because its a safety issue due to it affecting the brakes in the worst case scenario

[@peterg3661]

I Read an artical yesterday it mentioned that they new before production that the belt degrades due to fuel mixing in with the oil which is causing the belts to degrade.

[@jonsimmons4150]

pureshite -typo

[@zzhughesd]

Yup. Same same tech. Prob designed similar technical departments

[@denisewarner8982]

I have a 1.2 Citroen puretech c3, worrying

[@Rawdil]

Thank you for standing up for the general public. You wouldn't hear this kind of information in the news or local media.

[@BillRees]

Thank you for your videos on this issue, especially this one. They've have really helped us out (massively). Our 2017 Eco Boost Focus failed two weeks ago at 49K miles. It is currently sitting forlornly on the drive after being recovered by Green Flag. I'd never heard of this problem before. After viewing your videos I went to the local main Ford dealer armed with my independent garage service history, which they appeared to accept. Its booked in for "Analysis" next week. This is costing about £140 which I hope to reclaim later. I'll tell you how it goes. Thanks again.

[@BillRees]

After the failure we've now had the car "analysed" by the dealer (£130) and they've said in essence there no oil pressure and the engine is b*ggered (not the term they used) . To be fair they've been quite helpful. They are now pursuing the issue with Ford on our behalf. So far so good. Update in the near future.

[@Markdmarque]

Because they are being sued in USA!!!...They should be recalled here too!!!

[@house89147]

Yep if it happens in one country others should have the same rights. VW are the same I've had failures on my Passat that would have been covered in the USA, VW here want to plug in their gear tell you it's what you knew and that it's not covered in the UK and you now need to pay for their time diaging the car (In my case the clock spring in the steering wheel which failed because of dirt (hair) ingress. With Mini also doing the same thing but for their diesel egr issues, not covered for failure in the UK however there is a recall for the cooler. In our case the egr failed 2 months before they recalled it for the cooler. The egr fails because of the cooler in our case it failed before 27k miles. Mini garage said we can get it refunded if we talk to mini, mini came back and said no refund because the garage said it wasn't covered. Warenteed at this point are just extra loo roll.

[@ukcitizen1158]

Problem is not with the manufacturers. Problem is that Governments outside the U.S are pathetic and can't enforce anything on behalf of themselves or consumers. The U.S Govt. tare manufacturers a new arse hole, that's the way it should be done!

[@phoenix3872]

We in the UK need to start doing what the Americans do and start suing these companies like Ford (and Jaguar - Land Rove) together as a big lawsuit Buying a brand new car/s, is one of the biggest purchases one could make, and for them to fail within a few years is completely unacceptable

[@robertjones3477]

It would cost millions as in the US it only affects 140,000 cars. In Europe your talking millions of cars that's why. The are clever as they will be hoping that cars reach 10 years old and hope some people don't have full service history

[@robertjones3477]

Won't happen as US was only 140,000 cars and there's millions in Europe so they will be hoping cars reach 10 yrs old or people don't have full service history as the cars they are talking about for Ford good will gesture only go up to 2018 as they made changes in 2019. I recommend you get the sump removed to check for belt wear particals both in the sump and to see if any particals are stuck in the oil pump filter not your main oil filter alrhough you would change that anyway- also should be able to see belt for teeth wear.

[@stevehaines6343]

That's Lee for keeping us updated on this ongoing problem.

[@m.shearer5233]

I don't have a full service history on my 2017 ecoboom so that's game over and another lesson learned.

[@bird6691]

Fake it like they failed every aspect of the engine

[@JJVernig]

Just a check: You didn't change oil? Or did you do it yourself? Don't you have a invoice for that?

[@MrNaKillshots]

Just change the belt every 5 years.

[@BikingChap]

Well, if you don't service the engine...

[@ChopsGarage]

Reduced cambelt intervals breach a contract at sale as far as I'm concerned 4years sooner hits fleets big time

[@carukchannel]

⬆️⬆️ Very good point 👏

[@ColinGibb-d3o]

Just had that news for my Citroen C4! Cambelt at manufacture was 10 years 112,000 miles, took it to my mechanic for service 2 weeks ago, he’s told me they’ve changed it to 6 years 62,000!!!

[@mattdenker]

Hi I had engine overheat back in 2022 Ford replaced engine but I lost £1200 down to having to hire a vehicle so that I could get to work, I was not impressed by first attitude and fobbing me off

[@SethPowell7]

Ford should have to pay for the added changes above the original factory schedule. The added maintenance expense may have affected purchase decisions.

[@paulstace6058]

​@@mattdenkerwhat happened to the temperature gauge

[@markallen7443]

Well done mate......the people's champion😁👏👏👏😂

[@carukchannel]

hardly but thanks for the view and the kind words mark 👍

[@thomasrogers4534]

Just had belts replaced on 2014 Focus 1.0 ecoboost manual estate, at ford main dealer Aberdare, cost: £1,240.00. We only do about 5k a year (68k in total) so that, I think, reduced the possibility of engine failure. Plus never missed a main dealer service. I would never buy another wet belt car, so who in their right mind would buy ours?? We either run the car into the ground (we actually love the car) as we do such little milage or take a huge hit on trade in? N.B. the car to date has cost in repairs with the above belt £3k including *leaking slave brake cylinder at 50k, as brake cylinder in bell housing also changed clutch. *Front brake discs *Engine mounting bolt snapped and engine collapsed (luckily happened on driveway) Did I say we love this car??!! Thank you Car UK

[@ouethojlkjn]

Engine collapsed?? do you mean the engine dropped off its mounting? Sounds nasty anyway.

[@xKazor666x]

Did ford compensate the cost? I'm confused what you're supposed to do about a belt that could fail at any time. Ford focus 1.0 101k 2016 plate.

[@thomasrogers4534]

@@xKazor666x As our car is ten years old it required a belt change as per Ford recommendation. I was told by Ford dealer that the recommended belt change mileage has been reduced from 150k to 120k. As the engine had no issues there would be no financial compensation.

[@thomasrogers4534]

@@ouethojlkjn The bolt on the engine mounting under the battery snapped and engine dropped. This mounting allows the engine to be lowered to work on the gearbox. It was suggested by AA and mechanic that the bolt was over torqued when replaced after work carried out on gearbox?

[@ouethojlkjn]

@@thomasrogers4534 Bloody Hell - I hope you get it sorted and you are not out of pocket. Best of luck with it.

[@tonycharlton4296]

100,000 and booked for a wet belt replacement in September. I’ll look into this further but it seems promising. Apart from that my Fords with wet belts have been absolutely reliable.

[@philsweeney8787]

Thanks for the update, really interesting but always disappointing to hear how big manufacturers operate now. I bought a used 1.0L EcoBoost Focus earlier in the year, died on the motorway ten days later (unrelated to wet belt, was leaking coolant) and went back to dealer. By chance, ended up watching your videos on EcoBoosts and as a result ended up opting for a 1.6L Duratec Focus, it does the job and it's not a race car but I'll take that over an engine clogged with rubber and brake failures any day! So, thanks for info and keep up the good work.

[@adams7405]

Yes old fashioned 1.6 in my Focus, 250,000 miles and no problems.

[@regjenkinson6247]

Seems like the focus are the bad boys for lots of problems

[@philsweeney8787]

@@adams7405 250k is impressive…and reassuring! 👍

[@guymanning8009]

That was really useful information thank you. I have had so many problems with fords over the years I’m getting really fed up with it

[@petergrinnell2500]

Ford had taken to long to try sort this problem out with the junk engines as people have lost alot of money and many have been scrapped because of the problem so still don't look good and people still won't want ford to little to late to be fair but really good of you to tell everyone 👍

[@Harry-vc7ut]

12 days ago I've purchased used ecosport. Today engine icon started flashing. I was lucky couse it happened just before my home. Less then 23000 miles.

[@johnmcmahon4364]

Great information Lee for customers, well done for bringing the situation up to date

[@VSTV1993]

2 of my work colleagues have suffered with the wet belt failure (within a month of each other) one of them a focus the other a fiesta, focus driver has a totled engine and my boss with the fiesta managed to save his (just about) as he said he started hearing a strange noise so he stopped driving. He paid £1.3k for engine repair (new belt and engine flush etc) his mechanic who did the work said it was a VERY VERY close call

[@MattBrownbill]

I feel sorry for those who scrapped their cars or traded them at a massive loss. They will get nothing 😔

[@ClaireBlunden-xs7ji]

We literally did just that last Friday 😢

[@MattBrownbill]

@@ClaireBlunden-xs7ji damn. My friend lost thousands trading his Festa in, with an engine that sounded like a bag of nuts in a washing machine.

[@frankf3248]

Yep! It happened to my son, basically got washers for it in a trade in.

[@GeorginaMahoney]

I did that 2 weeks ago 😢

[@tardeliesmagic]

It's such a con!

[@royshaft]

Too late ! My mum’s went bang , she replaced her derelict with a Honda and never looked back. Ford can kick rocks .

[@abc-ye2ec]

I just scrapped my 16 yr old Ford focus and bought a Toyota, because reliability is important to me...I dont think I will ever buy another ford.

[@st200ol]

16 years isn’t a bad lifespan. We all know that manufacturers build stuff to last 1 day past the warranty.

[@chalikuddin5700]

Glad you made the best decision ford unreliable it’s money pit

[@regjenkinson6247]

I've had 3 Toyotas and two fiestas and had more trouble with Toyota than the fiestas in fact my 15plate and the wife's 14 plate 1ltr ecoboosts which we've had for 5yr each have been great also we've not payed a penny in road tax but having said that I wouldn't buy a focus either

[@-sargntclashroyaleandmore-491]

16 year old focuses are pretty reliable cars... far better than the ecoboom era Fords!

[@abc-ye2ec]

@@-sargntclashroyaleandmore-491 yh, but the rust on 16 yr old fords is too much.

[@vespasianfk]

After seeing your previous videos traded my 2020 Focus for a Toyota Corolla . So glad I did love it and everything about it feels better built than the Focus.

[@philiplindley7384]

The whole thing is just delaying tactics due to the potential costs involved, plus some of the problems disappear with time, like the customers.

[@bobmartin5101]

FORD......The "Boeing" of the 4 wheeled transport.

[@davidpearson243]

I thought Ford were good until I got a VW now wouldn’t have anything else (I have a Skoda now )

[@stevecoinitin7521]

@@davidpearson243 Yep, I had a couple of truly awful Fiestas, my mate and his nephew both suffered horribly with mk3 Escorts...engine dying @ 53k, my mates @78k plus 2 more engines lasting 2k and 7 k lol! There was me driving a few bulletproof 1.8 and 2.0L engined Cavalier's over a 15 year period. Never a problem. My mate bought an 89 2.0L Cavalier and took it from 128,000 miles to 268,000 miles in 4 years without a hint of a problem! My mate even did about 75,000 miles in an 84 Polo estate (pre Fox) in 3 years with regular services.

[@Shutityou]

@@davidpearson243my vw T6.1 has been a total money pit.

[@paintingdecoratingwithzac7340]

I bet you've been driven as many Fords as.....Boeings

[@briancarton1804]

​@@davidpearson243Get a Toyota and you will never touch a VW product again. Once upon a time I would have also said Honda but they have slipped up badly in recent years. I drive a 2007 Honda Accord myself but won't be buying a new Honda unless they improve greatly. Just about all manufacturers are making crap these days with the exception of Toyota and even they are not as good as they used to be.

[@geoffhobster5814]

Hello good news to some extent. My wife has a 1 litre ecoboost and at 49000 miles going well. To me Ford should fix this before failure and not wait until the engine goes bang. Well suppose the goodwill scheme is better than no support at all. Thanks for this video of the latest information of affected cars

[@linedancer111]

This could be great news to my son, his partner had no warning on the M6 when her engine just exploded, but Ford refused to help !

[@cptnemouk01]

Ford should sort the power shift gear box, while they're at it. I know it's discontinued but it's still affecting many people.

[@ladalout245]

What a great summary of the current situation with this prolific engine, you're again helping lots of people for no other reason than the desire to do the right thing, so good on ye mate! I've told many people about the woes of this flawed engine and most people don't seem to believe me or say "I've never had any bother with mine" etc. Very annoying. They can't say that now!

[@nigelpiercy4895]

Thanks for that, well put together. Still pissed at dealer quoting £2200 for wet belt replacement and service. 31k on the clock on 2017 eco boost. Daylight robery/ rubbery

[@carukchannel]

plenty of specialists now doing belt replacement for 800 mark have a look on eBay for wet belt replacement service. there are some good guys on there doing them for traders who also take on public work

[@LennertWelleman]

A friend of mine got a quote from a Dutch Ford dealer for a 2013 Focus with about 110.000 miles from € 2.800,-. I bought a Fiesta ST line X 125 EcoBoost Hybrid but that should have a distribution chain as I understand. Mine is from 2021 and had done 45.000 miles( 32.000 when I bought it). Does it help when I change oil after 7 or 8 months in stead of 2 years? Sorry for my English

[@LennertWelleman]

The quote was for a new distribution belt.

[@adewhite3921]

Lucky enough after seeing your video I've booked my 2015 1Ltr ecoboost with 47000 on the clock in for a wet belt change at my local garage. I've been quoted about £950-£1000. After that's been done I'm getting rid of it. At least I can get a bit more trading it in if the belts have been done as I've had a few traders say they don't take ecoboosts.

[@bv3bv334]

I'm getting mine done next week at a place in Rochdale. Has a great reputation. Will cost a grand 👍

[@michaellavery4899]

I'm not a Ford driver but have followed your take on the story. Massive credit to you and the other campaigners who have fought so long and hard for justice. I hope everyone affected gets the relevant compensation.

[@damianleah6744]

Took them long enough to fix it. Obviously the adverse publicity is making them get a move on with. They still have their heads in the sand.

[@yammy1000]

Trouble is, it's not a fix. It's a band-aid to delay the inevitable failures.

[@BikingChap]

@@yammy1000 well if they're covering them for ten years / 150,000 miles that seems more than reasonable.

[@davidhoneysett8245]

And when the car is 10 years old, you are on your own, scrap value, anything longer is a bonus. Cars should easily last for 15 to 20 years these days, but not Ford Eco-Boom.

[@boyasaka]

Honda 1,0 in their civic from 2017 to 2023 ( mark 10) Also has a wet belt And honda has finally done a recall ,costing them millions 3 cylinder engines ,bad idea Wet belt ,bad idea Same as dpf ,egr valve ,bad idea

[@TRD1949uk]

That is the product life cycle mate. The 1.0 engine when it first launched I had friends in dealer who got told don’t worry you’ll never change a belt on one of these the engine is designed to be throw away at 10 years or 125 so we’d advise replace engine at that

[@stevendouglas6593]

Buy a Toyota.

[@gamesmaster1060]

No​@@stevendouglas6593

[@The_Noticer.]

@@stevendouglas6593 The Toyota V35A engine would like a word with you. All brands have duds.

[@RichardBates-dk6pw]

Honda recalled there 1.0 s we had all are belts done for free 😊

[@natkingcol909]

Bring back the old Honda VTEC. It was virtually indestructible...

[@stephenwilliams926]

Imagine some people might have been in the window to get it fixed, but they have scrapped the car now.

[@RogueTrader-]

I still can't believe they were stupid enough put these in their vans after they finally sorted out the rust problems. Though all new vans are junk now tbh

[@MattBrownbill]

I also can't believe they made the transit FWD.

[@hedydd2]

@@MattBrownbill You have a choice. The larger vans can be rear wheel drive.

[@nervo6321]

Great video as usual Lee…why the hell would Ford build an engine with a cam belt that runs in oil…it’s madness.

[@marcusmaximus451]

Interesting vlog Lee, I serviced the Mrs 68 plate Ecosport today, had a Ford service history upto 15k miles, now has 21k miles and I used blue print oil filter, Wix air filter and Westway 5w 20 fully synthetic oil to Ford correct spec, will change the spark plugs tomorrow when I have the correct size spark plug tool, NGK iridium only good quality, kind regards to you and everyone out there, Mark from Billericay 👍🌞🌞

[@eddiereed5025]

you have too much money or are a bored mechanic at heart

[@marcusmaximus451]

@@eddiereed5025 neither !!

[@ThomasKilkenny]

Where can you get the right size spark plug tool from marcus? I want to change the plugs on mine too.

[@marcusmaximus451]

@@ThomasKilkenny hello there, nice to see a positive question, if you type in search engine 14mm long reach spark plug socket, I found mine on Amazon, QWORK 2 pieces thin plug socket for £9.95 for a 14mm and 16mm attachment and with a built in magnet which is very good…..kind regards to you and take care, good luck 😉

[@marcusmaximus451]

@@ThomasKilkenny hi there I found mine on Amazon for £9.95 QWORK 2 pieces thin wall spark plug socket set of 2 including a 14mm and 16mm with a built in magnet which is very good…….good luck and take care 😃👍

[@andyhill6398]

Must be a massive potential market for someone to make a chain conversion kit..

[@volt8684]

How about Ford doing it

[@MIK23458]

Great idea, now you’ve some spare time Andy how about you give it a go? 😉😊

[@andyhill6398]

@@MIK23458 Spare time ? what's that? don't know how i used to find the time to work. Hahaha.

[@edwardkantowicz4707]

Was thinking exactly the same solution!

[@Xenon777_]

Just steal the bike chain and sprockets off your bike :P

[@tonybingham334]

I have a 2014 Fiesta Ecoboost with 60.000 miles on clock and just had my wet belt replaced at my local Ford dealership a couple of weeks ago at a whopping eye watering cost of £1900, had service & MOT done @ the same time, not much change out of £2300, I also asked them to take photo's, just as well i got it done, oil pick up pump was starting to clog.

[@dan44zzt231]

Two thirds of the value of the car on a belt service 😭

[@jimmyjt16]

That’s a disgraceful cost to charge customers for their own doings. With this now announcement I’d be marching back in for a refund.

[@paintingdecoratingwithzac7340]

Which belt was starting to degrade ...the timing belt or the oil pump one ?

[@tonybingham334]

@@paintingdecoratingwithzac7340 timing belt

[@adyhayward]

Mine went and had to fork out £7250 for the engine change. I lost my car docs i a house move, Called the dealer who told me to verify with Ford CRC who told me the service interval was 15k miles/ 12 months. The car was serviced on a service plan and the dealer didn't query my services. CRC came back that my service history is poor and no assistance will be given

[@Turtle_Zed]

Excellent video Thank you for posting it It’s almost incredulous that a company like Ford is still making mistakes with engine design (and component design eg heated windscreen washers). You would think that by now, there would no problems with the IC engine.

[@adamanthony7465]

Clear to the point explanation. Hats off 🎉

[@carukchannel]

Thanks a lot 😊

[@petefrys545]

Good informative video, we bought a second hand 2018 Ford Fiesta ecoboost in 2021 after we both retired our old Astra was on its last legs. The Fiesta seemed a good deal 8000 on the clock great condition. We've had no problems with it thus far but it does cause us some concerns. This video has at least given us some basis to take action if we do, thanks for the video.

[@Matty12333]

I am thinking of buying a 2018 fiesta, but worried about eco boom but it does have a full dealer history from ford

[@stephenwaters7105]

Only a couple of weeks ago ford refused to accept responsibility for my 2016 focus with an ecoboost engine (also an automatic) 70,000 miles, which has now cost me £2304.00 to rebuild. They're a bloody disgrace and I will never buy another ford.

[@HypocrisyLaidBare]

Congratulations, welcome to the world of the sane.

[@dannyboyy31]

@@HypocrisyLaidBare Loving my 8-year old Focus ST - not a single issue with it, and it puts a smile on my face every time I drive it. I must be insane 😄

[@brianfearn4246]

​@@dannyboyy31that's because you're ST has a proper engine like mine 😊

[@ciaranbyrne62]

​@@brianfearn4246ah is it a specific year?

[@carljasonbarrett1970]

Avoid Ford's, Peugeot's & Vauxhall's when buying new & used & someone should set up a social media group about boycotting these car brands & perhaps these brands will listen

[@karter5351]

Ford Ecoboom, about time. It takes the states with their class action lawsuits to bring around a dose of common sense

[@hughmarcus1]

Class action lawsuits are possible in the UK too. The US has very stringent laws around vehicles being fit for purpose hence the chances of success is far higher.

[@tangokatz1684]

Thank you so much for this video has brought up so much clarity about the issue of eco boost in the UK. I have a manual fiesta 2016 reg and by the VIC sticker it states is a 2012 eco boost engine. I am due a service. I have a full service history with independent garages but never with a for dealership. I have booked today for the service and there is going to be a cam belt check as part of the service. In the last service was at a different garage than my usual and i have no confidence that the oil in part of the service was the specified recommended for my 1L ecoboost engine so the system is getting an oil flush as well. I will carry on updating after a service. More news coming in 4 weeks time. Fingers crossed

[@carukchannel]

Under no circumstances should you flush the oil in a Eco boost engine with a additive, you can only use 5w20 in the engine even if you want to run it up and flush it.

[@tangokatz1684]

@@carukchannel Thank you very much. Is a Ford garage and they’re aware of the issue so they will do timing belt diagnostic first and they are aware of my uncertainty of the oil used in the last service. They assured will only use 5w20 oil if they need to flush it but I will ensure I still state it again on the day, unless I buy it and bring it with me (something that the service centre guy told me I could do if I wanted to be sure). If I’m buying you have a recommended link where I can order it (I prefer buying best recommended grade recommendations if possible)

[@craigdaly5111]

At least they’ve shifted a bit maybe they’ll be pushed further in time. I’m surprised no one has come up with an after market chain for both cambelt and fuel pump maybe a chain I dunno?

[@mattbikes46]

Interesting stuff, thank you for making this. I've got a 2021 Transit Custom with 42K on the clock and the turbo just failed. The warranty ran out 4 months ago but amazingly without any fight at all Ford have offered to cover 90% of the cost.

[@Darkelf7201]

Great News!! Finally a result :) Well Done Lee

[@carukchannel]

Thanks 👍

[@Jim-sd5yq]

Everybody used to laugh at me for standing up for the old 2.0/2.3 Ford engines. I had a first year Ranger that had the 2.0. Those first run trucks were bare bones. 4 speed manual, no carpet, no kick panels, no head liner, no power steering or brakes, and NO computer or fuel injection. I put 475,000 miles on that truck. Rebuilt the engine twice. The first time for oil consumption and the second time at over 400,000 miles for a piston that flame cut down one side. After 475,000 miles that engine still had the original cam, followers, crankshaft and rods. The truck is still on the road today and I sold it 20 years ago. Fords engineering back then was rock solid. I could do any repairs or maintenance myself with basic tools. I still have 2 Rangers but overall neither one compares with my first one. Every time I turn around it’s something that I can’t fix because I don’t own the diagnostic equipment required. I did mechanic work for years and even automatic transmissions. I quit the business soon after the first computer cars came out. Been downhill ever since. I’m hoping for some company to come out with another basic, no frills car or truck that will give us good service again.

[@IanMcPoland]

I know a lad with a transit custom 50k miles only 4 years old engine is toast, I know of a couple that failed at 40k

[@TRD1949uk]

Had they been serviced? There’s vans on the road now used daily by a friend of mines company who service it every 2 years or 24k miles by Ford and the vans are 8 years old done 90k and still run perfect in daily use. But then hear or vans doing 50k that are 3/4 years old failing with no history and people wonder why

[@IanMcPoland]

@@TRD1949uk fully serviced, a mate of mine has just bought a transit jumbo with 80k on it and changed the belt right away,the one he took off was perfect. I guess it's just the luck of the draw.

[@timpoole247]

Glad Ford are finally helping people who have suffered with the wetbelt issue. I have the coolant intrusion issue with my Ford Kuga 1.5lt Ecoboom, which unfortunately is now out of warranty at 8 years old and 53k miles. I was told by my local Ford dealer it's not a common issue, yet they have a technical document for this issue (so it must be common enough) recommending a new short block at the cost of £6000, car is only worth about £8000. The document in question is GSS 20-7037. I asked the dealer for a copy of this document but they wouldn't share. Any chance you have or can find a copy of it? Any advice for what I can do next? To make it worse, our water pump bearings are extremely noisy (another common fault with these engines) but I'm reluctant to replace it and get a timing belt done when the engine needs replacing anyway! Such a shame because we love the car, just wish it didn't have such an awfully designed engine under the bonnet!

[@Wellibob68]

Simple. Maintain the wet belts should be a ford's warranty period on wet belt engines period (any part that's a rubber belt in oil). If you own a eco boost wet belt sell it fast. Never buy a ford ecoboost wet belt system car, vehicle.

[@johnmehaffey9953]

What about all the ones that blew up and had to be scrapped , my son was still paying for his he thought why pay for the same thing to reoccur and bought a cheap runaround instead and just said keep it and break it, great informative post Lee

[@michaelmarsh-bl9mg]

Great information Lee..... thanks 👍

[@Tech-Nobby]

We had a failure in our 62 plate focus ecoboost, ex-mobility car cost us over 4k for a 'new' engine ( with Ford Staff Discount) as there was one service 6+m late ( service 2 ) so basically told us to get lost Will try contacting them again but don't hold out any hope - car is now in my wife's name and not mins Thanks for this update :)

[@philmoffett366]

I’ve got a 2022 puma and I’ve had 4 ecoboost vehicles from 2013 onwards and all done over 100k one of the focus I had I sold it with 180k on the clock and including that focus I haven’t had a single issue with the engines!………..just saying🤷‍♂️

[@NickMackenzie-kb8mv]

Regular oil changes are the key, problems is people don’t have the cars serviced enough.

[@TheWebstaff]

Op what are you doing? Go buy a lotto ticket!!

[@Primerules]

@@NickMackenzie-kb8mvexactly. People moaning cause their engines go bang but they don’t service them

[@hydorah]

There was no need for Ford to implement wet belts in the first place. It bring no advantage to you. It's a gamble. Keeping to specified intervals reduces the risk of failure but does not eliminate it. You've got away with it that's cool for you. But you should not even have the problem. Ford are being cheapskate dicks all over their vehicles. 2.7l F150 V6 has a wet belt oil pump drive. You can't even see it to check it. It runs inside the replace if removed plastic sump pan. 4 cars in 11 years with 100K and 180K on a couple of them? What the hell do you do?

[@Matty12333]

I get oil changes every year on the 1.25 engine but perhaps there is no need, given how strong and reliable it is

[@sarboo]

Glad I came across this. I've got a 2016 Fiesta Zetec - serviced regularly and with less than 25k on the clock. I'm concerned though - it's our main car and I ferry the kids around in it. I'm wondering whether to just offload it now... I miss my '51 Fiesta - owned it from new until 2017. Not a single issue...just didn't have ISOFIX... 😢

[@Matty12333]

Is it a 1.0 eco boost?

[@Chris-yc3mm]

Sold my focus this year as i did not want to pay so much for a belt change (it was still working fine. I just did not want the cost or worry arount it.) Shame as other that the wet belts it was a great car.

[@johncarpenter5472]

Not everyone can afford electric cars and they're not worth it they call chuck away cars

[@tiagofermar]

They’ll never recall my car because I’ll never buy a ford car thanks to your video. I was about to pull the trigger on a new Ford Puma. At least my small commission they missed. Thank you 😊

[@user-xu5vl5th9n]

Wet belt can save 1% fuel consumption. Clearly worth it.

[@hackney7106]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@royfontaine5526]

100% if it can’t be driven!

[@NordenEngineering]

How can a belt having to squeeze oil out of the way be more efficient than a belt in air

[@G-ra-ha-m]

​@@NordenEngineeringGood point, well made. I prefer gears 😊

[@TrumanShow-im2ve]

More green BS pushed by the Globalist overlords. The Ford Zetec engines were superb. Rarely had any issues with them.

[@terryrobinson3016]

I have a ford fiesta ecoboost on a 64 plate. Full service history with 35,500 miles on it. Hopefully will have a bit more life in it for a while. Great video thanks for the update.

[@Eddie_Tyler]

Hi Terry. I have 64 plate too but with 77000 on the clock. Local mechanic is replacing the belts as of today and mentioned how blocked the oil pickup was. He took pictures so will be interested to see the state of it. I’m not sure if it’s overall mileage or the cam and auxiliary belts running oil for 10 years or more you should be equally as concerned about? You may want to consider your options.

[@linoleumbonypart385]

Trade her in

[@adrianwhitehead1950]

Thanks for the update. I was considering a fiesta for my daughter but this put me off Ford cars completely. Ford have been caught out here and the general public will go elsewhere. Ford need to have an internal review in order to regain public confidence in their products. I will not consider any Ford products due to this issue which is a shame as generally, their cars are great to drive.

[@cmartin_ok]

Buy a VW Polo instead of a Fiesta, 1.2 bluetech 89bhp. Best used car I've ever bought. Fiesta ecoboost is more fun to drive but the Polo beats it in just about every other area in my experience

[@adrianwhitehead1950]

@@cmartin_ok funny you should say that, she ended up with mk6 polo and loves it.

[@lindsayclubb]

V good video - crystal clear. Hope the goodwill will in practice apply to those (me included) with a post 2019 engine if need be. Whatever ... thank you!

[@Spark-Hole]

The more Ford makes cars, the more I respect Toyota.

[@HypocrisyLaidBare]

The more I see and hear about Ford, the less I love my Volvo.

[@Spark-Hole]

@@HypocrisyLaidBare Last time I drove Volvo, and that was 24 years ago. The car was very good. Hope Ford didn't send its design team to Sweden.

[@jimalcott760]

What about Toyota’s new problems with their trucks…?

[@dean6125]

Toyota cars not in my taste though

[@paul_nwsxs]

@@jimalcott760 it,s the tacom in the usa that they are having a problem with, it,s an engine we don,t get in the uk or europe

[@LaurenceHallman]

Hi, I bought a 2013 C-Max in October 2023 with a good service history, and because it was 10 years old, I had the belts and pumps replaced. The mileage was 48k. I was given the parts they had replaced, and I have to say there had been no noticeable deterioration in them. I paid £780 for the work to be done.

[@mikeberry304]

It was funny how confident they were about their 1.0 ecoboost engines , that upto last year we in the trade could buy a full engine , in a crate direct from Ford , with oil filter , some sensors ,water pump , wet belt etc , rocker cover for £1150 trade plus vat , giving us over £250 discount , on an exchange basis

[@BikingChap]

Interesting. If labour rates weren't such a joke it would be almost cheaper to swap the engines out than do a belt change.

[@mikeberry304]

@@BikingChap they are now over £2500 plus VAT 🤣🤣

[@BikingChap]

@@mikeberry304 figures, but still tempting when at 60-70k a cambelt is 2k ish retail.

[@AnthonyToth-t5v]

I’m glad I have a fiat Scudo van 255999 miles three cambelts since new runs like a dream no wet belt crap for me just a simple 20 year old diesel. I had loads of fords in the eighties they were great but after seeing these new wet belt systems I’ve seen the light steering clear lol

[@DoubleG79234]

Are they going to recall all of the powershit boxes next ?!

[@MIK23458]

Good point!

[@Youtube_deleted_my_favourites]

What's the problem with these?

[@DoubleG79234]

@@KZbin_deleted_my_favourites it’s not difficult, quick google search will tell you

[@PTRsTransport]

Excellent video, with as you say lots of information within. It is definitely worth watching twice to try and get your head around it

[@matthewgodwin3050]

The Ecoboom engine makes the Edsel look shrewd.

[@timsan55]

Many thanks, this has clarified a lot of issues and cleared up a lot of questions.

[@markod7662]

I had a 2003 petrol ford focus 1.6 it was a robust engine, actually when i had to get rid of it because of rust it was still running perfectly fine. So ford tried to make the engine die sooner - and they succeeded. Fortunately i heard these eco boost engines are trash and i did not buy ford again!

[@vevos_]

the engine itself is not bad... actually making such a smooth 3-cylinder engine is quite a feat. The wet belt is the issue. Wet belts are just not reliable enough yet.

[@Hrossey]

@@vevos_Daihatsu has done it since 1959. 3 cylinder kings!

[@MegaReddevil71]

The older zetec engines lasted well 200k mines done 196000 miles 1.8 zetec 💪ecoboost won't do that

[@Hartnad]

Top man, good information I can pass on to my customers who own eco boost cars 👍

[@rob666lee]

Long and short of it is dont buy any engine with a wet belt ,even the short oil pump belt versions . Bring back the pinto lol

[@andrewlowe693]

Bring back the good old Crossflow 😂

[@chrisstephens6194]

Mk1 focus engines are awesome

[@DavidSmith-ze2wi]

I've got a Pinto engined car, 44 years old still runs great.

[@icekitty400]

Do know someone who works for a hire/leasing car company. On looking for another car he told me to steer clear from the Ecoboost engines for this exact reason as he gets to know of the common faults on cars.

[@doomybear7389]

I've worked in the motor trade all my working life and most what I call new-age engines have a problem because they are designed by computers and people with letters after their names and has never had hands on experience with real engines(in other words never got they're hands dirty)

[@malcolmwhyte5856]

That's good news for anyone affected. It also highlights the fact that Ford (including many other manufacturers - NOT just cars) has known about a problem for many years and worse than doing nothing they have refused to help. Quick to push out the product and not so quick to fix the problems. In the worst cases blaming the consumer and charging extortionate prices for a fix. Almost every major manufacturer does exactly the same thing. Take Sony Mobile Communications as an example. They lied about their Xperia phones being waterproof. Now, after a class action in the USA every owner of these models in the USA are due a 50% refund. But' NOT so in the UK. From experience they wanted me to part with £180 to have my phone fixed and sent back. When I pointed out the class action, they refused to honour the ruling. This was of course many years ago. I've never owned a Sony phone since. The problem we all have with this is who to trust with your purchase?

[@gmac7947]

More power to you lad ❤ Well done 👍 There is definitely a tv personality right here , bbc couldn’t have done this better ………next step 🎥

[@sbrader97]

Full service history theres the catch of course they would do that because they wont do it free if the engine was cooked cos of lack of maintainance/wrong oil used. My mum has one it's been off the road for about 1.5 years now so the service history isn't gonna be upto date cos of that she got a new car instead of the ridiculous cost to fix it but the car is still on finance paying for a broken car

[@sbrader97]

@@visiblekoment The document said the goodwill will only be applicable if you have full service history

[@sbrader97]

@@visiblekoment They havnt recalled it yet in the uk the document it just says that they are gonna do it as a goodwill gesture but only if u have full service history documents but don't have that so it won't be applicable and the cost to get it towed there only to be denied it's not worth it

[@Hrossey]

@@sbrader97make your own service history. Backdate your own receipts. Backdate your own work done and service stamps. Service history has zero legal standing.

[@tolga24]

Oi Oi!!🤘The Nerd In Motion sent me here to get some proper and detailed info about the new engine issue. Thanks for your effort! 👊

[@reddgilroy3457]

Apparently Ford replace their own diesel fleet at 80k but warranty to 100k or 3 years. Currently being charged £1000 per wet belt but got told by the dealer they re-use the old oil! We are having a full service as the wet belts are being changed increasing cost to over £1200. My van is just 3 years old with fsh and has done 90k and is booked in for a wet belt as it seems its a risk for the extra 20k miles. I've done 1 out of 4 vans at the moment. Mine will be the 2nd van I've had the belt replaced on. Its not just getting it done for free it's the down time and loss of earnings we would incur when or if it goes bang. I'll be going Mercedes for my fleet in future as the cost difference In a new van doesn't warrant the risk and extra depreciation as nice as the 170bhp customs are.

[@boyasaka]

Do some diesels have wet belts ?

[@hamishwrobb8749]

Sorry to hear you're unwell, get well soon! You're helpful videos are making me consider against buying a Focus with Ecoboost, i assume it'll come with the aforementioned risks, or should I trust Ford, and if i get a second hand 2020 or 2021 Focus it 'shouldn't' develop this issue (you previously mentioned it was only 2016-2018 Focus Ecoboost engines developed this problem)?? Anyone know if newer cars with Ecoboost are more reliable or if they still have wetbelts? I like the Focus and really fancy the Active model... 😂

[@brianbeck4055]

Well done that man 👍

[@carukchannel]

Thanks 👍

[@thelawman]

Excellent job done by you, not buying a ford but if i was i would come to you even if i uad to travel from Shetland. Cheers mate

[@Original_Richard]

Why can't service history be logged online and print off. Bit like MOTs. Paper work gets lost all the time. It should be on a site where owners can get access

[@MrJoshiej]

I have had my 70 Plate Ford Focus ST Line 1.0 Ecoboost manual for 2 Years now been very good so far but I don't really do high mileage in it

[@frankbyrne1738]

My lad had his engine break and the car needs a new engine. The garage (stoneacre) has told them it is £4500 for said engine. Do you have any suggestions that we can take forward. Cheers mate , keep up the great work

[@HA05GER]

There's a company up the road from me that fit a refurb with warranty for around 2k

[@Hrossey]

A lawyer. Compensation plus the repair. And your legal costs.

[@birkatron1]

Ours seized 2 weeks ago, sold it to a garage for £1500, was worth 3k selling privately.

[@ChopsGarage]

Must be registered keeper is a blag as you might of sold the car at big loss due to an engine failure or after paying for a fix

[@carukchannel]

spot on @ChopsGarage Yes and lets face it if you cannot afford to fix it your hardly going to still have the car kicking around

[@ChopsGarage]

@@carukchannel Exactly. Great vid as always mate, thanks for the info. Got 2 Ecoboost in for belts currently but at most cost unfortunately as just due on age , 10 years. As least I can keep hold of future ones with FSH and retail confidently.

[@chrisduffill5248]

Well done for helping making this known to Ford , and at last social media has helped

[@stephencope7178]

I enquired if my Vauxhall Corsa had this system fitted to my three cylinder engine. I was told it had, so I've got rid and purchased a Toyota diesel!!

[@BAtadCrazy]

Oh My God!!! This is an absolute shame. I sure feel for people who bought these vehicles and are having to go through this.

[@davewhittles]

they should have ditched it years ago

[@evilelf5967]

and guess what i'm servicing this weekend??? cheers buddy,i'll be telling the customer the great news.

[@italianjob-vx6hp]

The Ecoboom engine !

[@Tso007]

brilliant video 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻well done

[@SammiEllis-i8n]

Mine went in December last year 3k for a new engine. Its now back in the garage with another problem..its also on finance

[@carukchannel]

If it had fsh and under 10 years I would be speaking to ford customer service team

[@Hrossey]

Grow a beard mate. Put a turban on. Put a free Palestine T-shirt on and call yourself Hamza. Don’t forget your pride flag. You’ll soon be sorted out by afore. Like, what you’re not bigots are you guys? Sorted 🏳️‍🌈😉🤣🤣

[@RennySkinner]

Excellent video,thank you so much in making it

[@bobmartin5101]

What about the 1.2 Purecrap engine?

[@sbrader97]

They already have a recall but only for cars between 2013-2017

[@bobmartin5101]

This sort of engine is in corsa now as well isnt it?

[@sbrader97]

@@bobmartin5101 Yeah the new shape corsa uses it the old shape astra and corsas used gm 1.2 engine the astra k had a 1.2 turbo but it was still a gm engine not the wetbelt pureshit

[@jaycoleman9108]

The new shape astra also uses wet belt , and from what I hear is also having problems. A pal of mine has just bought one , a year old . Had his regular mechanic take a look over the car post purchase who told him that they have been doing on average 2 engines per week Wet belt of any brand is a no no

[@GenoppteFliese]

On my shortlist there have been many cars from Stellantis group (Pure Tech wet belt engine) and I'm currently happily driving a long time rental Ford. But because of the wet cambelt issues that you can hear about in many repair shop videos, I stepped away from any engine with a wet cambelt. Latest theory I heard is that E10 fuel doesn't cope well with short distance cars and wet cambelts: when running a cold engine too much alcohol or petrol is mixing with the oil and the chemistry of that cocktail is decomposing the belt. When driving long distance engine and oil get much hotter and alcohol and petrol in the oil will vaporize before doing damage.