Toyota Mirai review: the hydrogen car that 'urinates' 😂

[@carwow]

What car should Mat buy next? Wrong answers only... 👀

[@nathanb2100]

Peel P50 😆👍

[@samvliem1975]

Fiat multipla

[@MilitaryHistory2011]

PT Cruiser

[@dopebroz803]

@@nathanb2100 agreed 😂😅

[@vanessaoelmann4211]

Piaggio Ape

[@superravmanrampage]

Mat wasnt lying, he actually does have a degree in Chemistry lol

[@_-Anthony-_]

@Kishlay Anand oh that's awesome

[@sathies4040]

@@_-Anthony-_ gonna believe that ? ok................

[@ClebyHerris]

So he’s smarter than I thought

[@Lerppunen]

@@ClebyHerris He seems smarter than average to me.

[@DrivingDreamCars]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJfKh36EhdGlqMU matt watson

[@jolomies]

If i remember correctly this car has a button on the dash to release the water when ever you want, so if releasing water to driveway bothers you so much, just do it before. edit: the button can be seen at 3:52 above the vent, saying H2O

[@M1LAD81]

Or if you're thirsty, get someone to push the button, while you're behind the car on the ground and cupping your hands to catch the water!

[@RealNameNeverUsed]

@@M1LAD81 collect the water in a week time and you get a bucket of water to wash your car with it

[@jolomies]

@@RealNameNeverUsed Heh, just pipe it to windshield wiper fluid tank. Im not sure why they dont immediately drip it out from the rear of the car, and choose to store it for bigger release. alternatively do what fridges do, and pipe it to cool something. (at least my fridge pipes condensation water to a tank next to the hot compressor, and it then gets evaporated while cooling the compressor a bit) edit: if you need to know exactly how this works, fridge has like V shape at the rear, on the inside of the fridge, that pipes condensation to a tine hole.that then goes to a pipe, and what i have seen commonly, the condensation just sits on a bucket, that is cooling the compressor, sits right next to it, mine is a bucket, specifically designed to surround the compressor , or more commonly for getting rid of this water. bet they did a lot of testing if it was possible for that bucket to overflow, nope. has never happened for me. if you have absolutely horrible water/air density, and see your fridge leaking water you can plug it in your fridge to have all the water inside the fridge. if it is plugged you see water in bottom of any fridge.

[@FrozenDung]

@@M1LAD81 on a serious note i think that water is bad to drink because it is very pure

[@thebrowns5337]

When we are all at war over fresh water owners of these cars will make hard cash

[@izhlayukio5863]

I really hope hydrogen cars gets developed more in the future, I would totally own one

[@ericpisch2732]

They won’t, they make no financial sense for personal transport v a BEV

[@nordic5490]

@@ericpisch2732 correct. HFC cars are actually evs with their small battery charged by the fuel cell. The fuel cell cannot provide the instantaneous current needed for acceleration. These are complex cars with the tiny drive battery being constantly thrashed, with deep discharge. The drive battery will probably only last 100k kms. Then the fuel cell membrane will likely also need replacing in 100k kms and the other additional maintence required that pure evs do not have. A HFC car will be expensive to maintain, and likely be a throw away after 100k kms. In addtion, 3-5x more renewable electricity needs to be generated to provide the same power at the wheels for a HCF car than is needed to provide the same power at the wheels for a pure ev. And packaging is also an issue for HFC cars - all those systems need to go somewhere in the car. Then there is the infrastructure issue.

[@makr0295]

@@nordic5490 with enough research and investing going into FC cars i actually see a market for them. There hasnt been big innovations with FC cars and the reason for this is the lack of funding. Hydrogrn makes a lot of sense for trucks oder airplanes and if those things are coming i am sure cars will come too

[@Simon-dm8zv]

@@makr0295 Hydrogen cars will always remain horribly inefficient, no matter how much money you throw at it.

[@--Nath--]

@@Simon-dm8zv Toyota seems to want to ignore the laws of thermodynamics.. Hydrogen is a terrible option for powering cars..

[@jasongooden917]

The weird thing about hydrogen is it can run an electric car via fuel cell but you can also use it in an internal combustion engine with a few tweaks. Also is hybrid ICE and electric car

[@tanayvaishnav3888]

but since hydrogen has the tiniest atom size, its very hard to make the ice engine leak proof and plus it doesnt burn with a visible flame, it has a barely visible blue flame so its very hazardous that way to use it, thats one of the many possible reasons why they are using fuel cell, otherwise combustion of hydrogen gives a lot more energy than using the fuel cell way...

[@logitech4873]

@@tanayvaishnav3888 "combustion of hydrogen gives a lot more energy" Well it certainly wastes a lot more energy. Hydrogen combustion cars are very inefficient compared to hydrogen fuel cell cars, which are themselves very inefficient compared to EVs.

[@shill6449]

And. It might be good for a cuppa!

[@ciarancheetham8245]

​@@logitech4873Repairing a EV is inefficient

[@logitech4873]

@@ciarancheetham8245 How so?

[@januarymorris9087]

I've looked at that car online before and seriously considered it being my next car, right up until I found out I would have to drive 1500 miles to get it filled up

[@xpengfangirl7942]

hydrogen stations are being built

[@John_3_16]

Totally possible with it's 400 mile range lol

[@ericpisch2732]

@@xpengfangirl7942 yeah look at Norway, the most green transport fleet in the world, they are building loads of them, oh wait, no they shut them all after one exploded

[@ericpisch2732]

LS swap it and you will have no problems driving 1500 miles and the fuel bill will be lower

[@xpengfangirl7942]

@@ericpisch2732 thanks for this news, china was worried about the sudden hydrogen hype, but it looks like it all exploded, good job

[@finlaydavison256]

I think Mat should show the keys when he reviews the car, just out of interest.

[@bwmim9709]

Horn and key should be shown

[@jawadulkarim8877]

yes he should

[@-aid4084]

*gets car stolen because of a screenshot of the key*

[@ahassen1236]

When this technology matures a bit and hopefully more filling stations are added, it's definitely a much more progressive change from I.C.E. cars to Hydrogen. It doesn't feel like a weird move away. No need for silly power points or having to wait 'hours' to charge. I'd love it

[@michelbelsches7975]

Hydrogen trucks refuel at Flying J truck stops.

[@oliversissonphone6143]

It's weird that he didn't refuel the car. Surely that would be interesting to see...

[@waynecartwright-js8tw]

Its been on the market 10 years ? I cant find a 2nd hand one for sale in the UK , Why is that ? I've seen 1 in those 10 years. Is it really a success? look up the lifespan of the fuel tanks

[@AndreA-wj2lk]

No, it was a fail and the director from Toyota leading this got fired. They are a lot behind now in the electric race​@@waynecartwright-js8tw

[@mahinakhter8157]

Eva aren't that bad anymore, sub-3 min to fast charge but yes it will take hours at home but people do it while they are sleeping. Hybrid cars are the more practical car right now

[@果糖ぶどう糖液糖-l1n]

Mirai in Kanji→未来 「未」(mi) means "still", "never", "yet"... 「来」(rai) means "come" Therefore Mirai means "something has not come yet" ＝future

[@Ren_1106]

Hydrogen cells cars

[@kwamea.n1723]

Mirai Trunks

[@zsb707]

Thank you for the language lesson 👍.

[@trunksbriefs8434]

Or my girlfriend 💀

[@Jim-gr2xc]

The car that "Never Comes"

[@LM-oh3vw]

This is like EV's 10 years ago, when there weren't any charging stations. We just have to wait for the tech to improve and become more popular.

[@ahmedabdelkader2141]

lol hydrogen gas are older then electric cars. they are also less efficient, environmentally speaking, then a EV.

[@Mike.W.Dasher]

The problem is, building hydrogen fuel stations is more complicated, and more expensive, than petrol/gasoline stations. And normal fueling stations are more complicated and expensive than building out an EV charging network. I mean, you can "refuel" an EV in your own garage quite easily. It's hard to imagine hydrogen fuel cells having much of a future, without some rather major tech break throughs. I guess time will tell.

[@Anonym-dx2tp]

Hydrogen doesn’t make sense in passenger cars only in Planes, Ships, Lorries(let’s see how the Tesla Semi will deliver) and non electrified railways.

[@jdmfan2170]

We need to push for more hydrogen stations

[@jdmfan2170]

@@ahmedabdelkader2141 Thats not true making the EV battery is not good for the environment, the UK don't main source of electricity is not renewable source making inefficient. also EVs lose range quickly in hot and cold weathers and the battery degrades over time not good.

[@John.lakesrc]

I hope more manufacturers start making hydrogen cars, seems a much better solution than electric.

[@ericpisch2732]

They are not financially viable, in a perfect system the fuel costs 5x that of putting the electricity into a BEV. One of the hydrogen stations in Norway blew up.

[@vangledosh]

Until there's a cost effective way of producing hydrogen, it will never happen. Electrolysis of water and steam reforming (reacting hydrocarbons/fossil fuels with water to produce hydrogen) are both energy intensive AND burn a lot of fossil fuels to achieve.

[@torguy5763]

@@vangledosh They need to add Sodium, this the key, Sodium Hydrogen will work.

[@jackskywalker8086]

I would actually like to have both available.

[@Brian-om2hh]

A hydrogen powered car *is* an electric car. It substitutes a hydrogen fuel cell for a drive battery. It does still have a small battery in the drive train, but that acts a buffer.

[@alexsystems2001]

I keep considering one, I have a 180 mile a day commute and there are loads of hydrogen filling stations around my work. An EV the time to charge would be a major pain for me. I have other cars so I wouldn’t need this aside from working and the incentives here in the US knock almost 32% off the price of the car AND they give you another $15,000 in fuel credit.

[@maynardewm]

Wow, sounds like a no brainer then. Only challenge might be maintenance? If Toyota dealerships know how to even fix them…

[@logitech4873]

That's a bizarre commute distance. You should move or change jobs. That's like 4 hours wasted driving every day?

[@alexsystems2001]

@@logitech4873 I sit on the freeway with millions who do it every day… I know the pro EV crowd does not care about anyone else but themselves but million of people have HUGE commutes in the US, especially California.

[@logitech4873]

@@alexsystems2001 Sounds like a true car hell. I don't understand how you can deal with work days that long. How many years have you spent on that road? Scary. The average American commutes ~40 miles per day, which is already absurd, but you apparently commute almost 5x that amount? I don't understand how you find it acceptable to waste so much of your life like that. It just sounds absolutely insufferable. Where I live, the average commute is 23km (14 miles)

[@acefighterpilot]

So cool that Mat has a chemistry degree! Goes with his natural chemistry.

[@shithead4767]

Does he?

[@muratisteinkeks]

@@shithead4767 Yes, University of Edinburgh.

[@twitchdailies3982]

my whole family is over 6.4´´ and we have a audi a3... yes we have all sat in it at one, but we need to bend front :P

[@cruisex5454]

Damn... you're whole family so tall 😲

[@niccolomachiavelli8763]

6”4 yeah sure are they heavyweight boxers too?

[@9.5.9.5]

@@niccolomachiavelli8763 You think that's impossible or something?

[@adibansal96]

are you a masochist? is your whole family a masochist? Damn dude give your and your family's backs a relief

[@Speck1119]

Jeez I’m 179cm and I struggle in my A4… I don’t know how you guys do it!

[@camogap7392]

I'm gonna say it, Hydrogen still has potential in the auto industry, primarily in the commercial sector and for pickup trucks maybe. I mean hydrogen is just so much better for long haul semi-trucks than electric which is better for civilians

[@berkinerengurman1401]

Agree. I hate charging times and weight of the batteries but this is very similar to the internal combustion engine. I like it.

[@harrypsaunders]

JCB are developing an internal combustion engine that runs on Hydrogen for that very purpose. There's a vid on it on Harry's Garage.

[@PiOfficial]

Hydrogen is the only tech that has potential. Evs will die out if they don’t upgrade from lithium ion.

[@Grinding_Gears]

Only if it is ‘green’ hydrogen produced from water with 100% renewable electricity. ‘Blue’ hydrogen from natural gas has a bigger CO2 footprint than just burning the gas in a home boiler or in a power station. The reliance on supply chains and complicated infrastructure is also a major downside. Maybe if Toyota committed to building infrastructure in the way Tesla built their network of chargers we’d have more enthusiasm for hydrogen...or maybe not

[@madattaktube]

@@harrypsaunders It's a bit difficult to imagine that being practical, no matter how good your tech is an IC engine will be far less efficient than a fuel cell and loses most of the advantages of using hydrogen in the first place. But they must have their reasons.

[@andrewkirby6662]

B MODE stops charge from going into the battery as it is only used to be "simulated engine braking" you can still get regenerative braking in drive.

[@tonyholder3483]

Matt, you didn’t mention one of the main advantages of a fuel cell car is that you can fill it up in minutes, like a petrol powered car. You don’t have to wait ages as you do in an electric car.

[@RS6Bongo]

if you find a gasstation!

[@viking01]

If I'm not mistaken, the hydrogen station has to build up pressure again after refuelling which could mean that you have to wait 20 minutes before you can start filling up your car. A Tesla supercharger will recharge a car in the same time.

[@papugenas]

few minutes to fill, few hours to get there and back..

[@dottybecker3756]

Refuelling time would be an advantage if a big refuelling network were available but for most people for most trips they never have to wait to refuel their electric car - it starts full every day

[@simonward5833]

That’s right, you can spend that time driving to and from the hydrogen filling station.

[@nathanb2100]

Ooo this looks far more conventional/better than the old model, which looked rather bizarre :). I can't wait to see other makers like BMW release their own hydrogen models :). And that title though 😆. Nice content :)

[@neilisgreatagain]

Won’t happen

[@nathanb2100]

I'm pretty sure BMW are making a hydrogen version of the latest x5 though

[@swamyee4401]

that's possible to think about BMW making these cars because they had already worked together for new Toyota Supra

[@camogap7392]

It actually looks beautiful tbh

[@problemstube7266]

Looks great...........but after this video hydrogen fuel cell can fuk off.

[@Gandeloft]

7:50 - I've never had a car that does it differently and I dislike it being the way you say you'd like it to be; All in one spot. The trip meter and the odometer are settings I don't want to risk touching by accident and thus having them separated from the controls I touch all the time makes perfect sense.

[@christianhristov6231]

Fun fact: Mirai means ''future'' in Japanese

[@magnustan841]

みらい, absolutely.

[@rider2408]

未来、absolutely

[@timaustin2000]

Which is ironic in that hydrogen fuel cell cars don't have one.

[@onelyone6976]

@@timaustin2000 at least much more of a future than battery EV’s

[@JNicoSR]

Remove the fun part...

[@nkdhakecha1453]

Hydrogen fuel cell explanation by professor mat Watson 😂😂

[@GodMoodAz49]

Mat actually has a Bachelor of Science in Chemistry.

[@ZapFlashD]

All we're missing is the lab coat that he used for his Range Rover review

[@AUSTiNKiNSER]

I just bought a Mirai about two weeks ago and absolutely love it!! I also have a 2016 Prius.

[@carhub6373]

Is it fuel cell?

[@AUSTiNKiNSER]

@@carhub6373 yes, all Mirai’s are fuel-cell.

[@carhub6373]

@@AUSTiNKiNSER congo bro , what's your thoughts on future of hydrogen vs ev

[@AUSTiNKiNSER]

@@carhub6373 I definitely think hydrogen has a place in the market, battery-electric vehicles versus fuel-cell electric vehicles are no doubtably more efficient in terms of power transfer, but hydrogen wins on fueling time and in some cases, range… for now. I’m really hoping for more hydrogen stations, and lots of the general public here in Cali don’t even seem to know this car exists.

[@MDeniz-dy7nq]

How much is costs for kg of hydrogen and how much kg of hydrogen you need to fully load the vehicle.

[@joelhenderson4450]

Does it have a “wee” button so you can evacuate its bladder at will? In winter you wouldn’t want to have a sheet of ice in the driveway from your incontinent car.

[@musashah7428mas]

Yeh it actually does

[@ccalvinn]

@@musashah7428mas Can you use it while driving? Like could you potentially slick your enemies behind you on icy roads?

[@lankannigga9737]

@@ccalvinn lmao I'm curious now

[@itsgojoverfr]

@@lankannigga9737 same here lol

[@Alkazeltser6362]

I've already ride this car in Berlin, in taxi! pretty nice car!

[@davisdesigns1153]

@Not RickRoll 👇 you ain't getting me, not this time 😤

[@BRNOOB_]

Cool

[@ki7561]

Would you say it is fuel efficient compared to your normal fuel?

[@markarnold8160]

The Hyundai Tucson has a jump start function for when the 12V battery runs down due to the car sitting idle during a Covid lockdown etc. Good to see Toyota have the same thinking.

[@abdul_g6369]

5:36 look at his face when he goes in the middle seat😂

[@Trendyflute]

I really have a soft spot for the Mirai and Clarity fuel cells, they strike me as ideal comfortable long-distance cars, but I understand the filling infrastructure is just an absolute nightmare to deal with. I was thinking during this video that it would be nice to have a hydrogen plug-in hybrid, something with ~100 miles of plug-in range but then another 200-250 miles of hydrogen on board more as a range extender. Seems like a smart application for a plug-in hybrid since every fuel cell is already a hybrid and hydrogen fuelling can leave you stranded but finding a plug isn't as hard.

[@chappy2121]

It needs investment. It wasn't that long ago there were barely any fuel stations. Hydrogen is the next logical step if you ask me

[@andys844]

@@chappy2121 it's the production of hydrogen which is the main issue: it either uses natural gas and there are questionable carbon capturing claims, or uses a lot of electricity for electrolysis.

[@cesteres]

DMFC or other hydrocarbon FC would be a better option, at least outside Japan

[@alperk]

Fuelcell make more sense for semi trucks and buses that travel long distances every day, electric is better, cheaper for in-city driving.

[@chappy2121]

@@andys844 yeah that's the issue. We'll never ever get away from the carbon issue though I don't think. That new e10 fuel is supposed to save 750k Tons of c02 per year, my mate had a pipe blow on a fridge plant last year half a ton of refrigerant yet 782k tons of c02 in approx 1min. Yet the ecos still demonise engines. Weird 🤔

[@maxkolbe8893]

"The Sound of Science.." Watson and Mattfunkel........Ok, I'll get my coat!

[@hello9238]

when a Lexus LS and a Bob fish has a child: Toyota Mirai.

[@bonzobonanza]

Or an AMG GT 4 Door

[@wermagst]

Lighter than a similar sized EV? Are you talking about exterior or interior size? Because if it's the latter, the Mirai should be compared to a Renault Zoe.

[@a1asdairpage]

I was just thinking about this, and with a FCEV you’re getting way less utility than a BEV. a massive compromise on cabin space, headroom, foot wells, boot space and no frunk. All in a larger package. Very disappointing - FCEVs need to innovate and iterate much more quickly if they expect to compete with BEVs, because this isn’t efficient in cost to buy or run, or on space. £50k sold at a loss. Petrol and diesel cars with a 10% profit, and Tesla cars with a 20% profit and growing. The economics don’t look good. Judging from the comments, there’s lots of interest and demand for FCEV so it needs more investment. More cars, more fuelling infrastructure… then maybe it won’t fail. But as I say, it doesn’t have a very bright future right now, unfortunately.

[@Rahul-kz5fi]

Looks like a family friendly supra

[@elenaa8436]

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[@ibsn87]

100,000km driven electric, never had to stop for a service, 2 sets of tires only. Never had to stop too or from work to fill up. Massive warranty. Huge room in the car, boot, back seat and under the bonnet. Quick, connected and with home solar I’ve had zero running cost. Hydrogen is a pipe dream.

[@tentacionndlovu6343]

@ibsn87 your diff has oil and batteries have coolant drive 100k and you see what will happen

[@ibsn87]

@@tentacionndlovu6343 yeah, it’s got a few moving parts….. it’s a comparison right…. like the 500 tonne earth moving machinery I worked on for 15 years, electric drive trains destroy traditional torque converter style drive trains by several orders of magnitude in both longevity, maintenance and power output (everyone is moving this way). Heat due to friction kills oil. Braking heat transferring through differential housings kills oils and affects lubricant quality, dramatic heat changes results in the differentials “breathing” which introduces dust. All - less of an issue for a simple one gear ev motor that’s not absorbing heat from an engine bolted to it or brake energy or idling fluid friction. I’m so glad you mentioned that. We did an oil sample on the 2018 model 3 drivetrain and its result was close to new condition. So. Sorry. It’s done 160,000km and it’s fine. No substantial gear sets, no brake heat, exponentially less heat, less wear, less friction, and they have a filter on the transmission fluid unlike normal cars 😉 Also most coolant fluids are rated for life these days. Again, silly to compare to a ICE. MUCH less heat, less vibration, less moving parts and not having to step up or down ratios. There’s plenty of evidence to backup the substantial differences in maintenance.

[@zerocool5238]

Matts definitely got the carbon fibre stick of truth on vibrate in his back pocket 😂

[@igpbayuarriputra2081]

Rimac's clever marketing strategy😂

[@arnoldtabor3767]

I wish hydrogen was winning between BEVs and HBEV seen as they improve air quality as they drive... I do think people are missing the point of hydrogen with the range, it's the refueling almost as fast as petrol... at the same price with no emissions just harmless water ...

[@thor6489]

Can You Please Make a Video On 1:1200 hp Lambo vs 1600hp Gtr vs Rimac Nevera 2:Red Bull f1 Car vs Model s plaid

[@carwow]

One day... Hopefully!

[@thor6489]

@@carwow Thank You

[@mackster85]

Some facts around hydrogen: - Hydrogen Hyundais in Korea are 50% subsidizes to compete - You need 3 times more energy per mile compared to EVs - You refuel with 700bar, some countries operate hydrogen stations with „aerospace standards“ to prevent blowups

[@Brian-om2hh]

You omitted to mention that hydrogen fuel cells are manufactured using platinum, and that the cell degrades over time, and will require either replacement or refurbishment during it's working life...... And hydrogen won't ever be cheap. Expect it to cost more than gas/petrol.......

[@jcdowns]

New carwow drinking game: Every time you hear 'click on the pop out banner' take a drink :)

[@noordinaryjoe1414]

Way ahead of you buddy

[@suhailak7320]

Idk why I just love this 😂😂 5:45

[@petehampton6051]

Commercial H production is currently derived from fossil fuels, mostly Gas. Renewable H production can be done but current tech is not commercially viable at scale. FCEV's do have a place though, specifically with trucks, busses and shipping to stop the use of dirty diesel and bunker fuel but for personal cars, not yet.

[@ndzalie]

Better than electric cars in the long run thou

[@robc8593]

We should have gone heavily nuclear power 30 years ago for many reasons. Plenty of cheap power would have made Hydrogen viable as production efficiency becomes less relevant. These vehicles are a far better long term solution than EV's dragging around a ton of battery

[@emrefifty5281]

@@Spartan969 compared to petrol engines which have 30-35% efficiency.

[@thebrowns5337]

It's currently derived using fossil fuel power (blue hydrogen) as the fossil fuel bit makes it fast and easy at present (and no doubt big oil is lobbying hard for this as they will need to transition their finances over time). Green hydrogen is happening alongside and should be the ultimate goal though. It is fully acheivable.

[@mikeedwards350]

@@ndzalie not by any metric.

[@701983]

@"supercharger noise": It's the compressor, which pushes air through the filters into the fuel cells.

[@joeyj9638]

James May is ALWAYS right. Never forget that!

[@telomnisi9054]

Lol

[@brianwabai3967]

Wow. Mat's hard work is paying off quite well. Couldn't help but notice the z fold he's been using for quite sometimes isn't just a normal one...but actually a thom browne edition. Keep up the great work Mat..👌 Hard work truly pays

[@tasman5572]

Drag race DC Matt and yanni No cars, just them Sound check is necessary Would be nice if DC is in race suit and redbull mechanics are there

[@Showmetheevidence-]

I'm very excited about the potential for Hydrogen!! Electric seems to be quite "fashionable"... Hydrogen seems like it's really a new, different, interesting fuel source!

[@Simon-dm8zv]

But very inefficient...

[@Brian-om2hh]

New?? General Motors were trying to push hydrogen over 40 years ago! The main problem with hydrogen production is it's inefficiency. You use more energy producing it than you extract from it.....

[@Brian-om2hh]

It's not new. General Motors were blowing hydrogen's trumpet 40+ years ago......

[@valimihai7094]

15:05 Best finish 😂😂😂

[@GamerofGamesGG]

I still don’t understand why this car exists, it’s cool but so impractical and expensive. - James May makes the car cooler and that’s about it.

[@RonanB99]

You could say the same about early battery electric vehicles

[@propstoyou9792]

the same goes to the electric cars during early stage

[@GamerofGamesGG]

@@RonanB99 not really. Even at the very beginning your were able to charge your car at home even if it took over a day to charge. Hydrogen is very expensive to handle and maintenance.

[@GamerofGamesGG]

@@propstoyou9792 there’s a big difference between electric and hydrogen. Just because they provide similar electric currents, doesn’t make them any closer before, now and in the future.

[@nordic5490]

@@GamerofGamesGG HFC cars are actually evs with their small battery charged by the fuel cell. The fuel cell cannot provide the instantaneous current needed for acceleration. These are complex cars with the tiny drive battery being constantly thrashed, with deep discharge. The drive battery will probably only last 100k kms. Then the fuel cell membrane will likely also need replacing in 100k kms and the other additional maintence required that pure evs do not have. A HFC car will be expensive to maintain, and likely be a throw away after 100k kms. In addtion, 3-5x more renewable electricity needs to be generated to provide the same power at the wheels for a HCF car than is needed to provide the same power at the wheels for a pure ev. And packaging is also an issue for HFC cars - all those systems need to go somewhere in the car. Then there is the infrastructure issue.

[@shotgunboy7577]

I wish there were more hydrogen fuel stations and its sad I've never seen a hydrogen car in person

[@mitzamihaif.8755]

I think this is the best compromise between 0 emissions,fast charging/filling and long journeys in a confy manner. It would be even confyer if we would have more filling stations.

[@vanvan143]

Nope, energy consumption H2 cars are simply way too high.

[@--Nath--]

Too inefficient and hydrogen production is a long way from zero emissions. It's a terrible idea for powering cars.

[@ErinKrasniqi]

Wise words of Mat 2021 - "If you got some crappy apple then you can use Apple Carplay" 😂😂

[@leored79]

Bmw ix5 hydrogen now in production for a small run. Hope Mat can get his hands on it next spring...

[@Brian-om2hh]

Wrong. It's not in "production". BMW built 100 examples as a trial/test. No orders are being taken for production runs.....

[@mileglavash]

It is a DREAM for me to have half of the world driving cars like this. Today it`s looking impossible but tomorrow it can became normal as it happend with EVs

[@bangalisusmitaRishit]

I guess mat watches drive tribe and grand tour and plays minecraft on his 7.6 inch screen of his galaxy z fold 2 lol 😂

[@f-ckmyr0fil617]

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[@f-ckmyr0fil617]

‘Who is there?’🍹🍸🍷🍾🍶🍵☕️

[@f-ckmyr0fil617]

‘Who is there?’🍹🍸🍷🍾🍶🍵☕️

[@beauwasiak8617]

Fold 3 tbf?

[@spaghetti9067]

Arguably one of the most stylish executive cars on the outside

[@muditahlawat]

1:43 Mat, are you sure that's a stick of truth? 🤔

[@sylvaind.6786]

It is. It seems you missed some episodes...

[@bryanrussellng1061]

James may is proud of you Matt

[@elenaa8436]

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[@Five_ThirtyNine]

@@elenaa8436 bot

[@maxchilla732]

Fun Fact: Mat actually has a Bachelor of Science in Chemistry.

[@AA-ik7ni]

How do you know that

[@eoghanlacey6384]

How do u know

[@Brian-om2hh]

I'm quite surprised to hear that. It is a pity he couldn't balance that out with a little more maturity though..... Sometimes the way he often jabs buttons, and forcefully twiddles knobs really irks me. He is at times rather like an 8 year old, attempting to see how much force it actually takes to break things..... I kind of get the feeling he'd do the same if he was a passenger in a car too..... His reviews are informative though. I just wish he'd cut back on the impishness/immaturity a touch.

[@brianglendenning1632]

@@Brian-om2hh your lack of fun is giving we Brians a reputation for being dull. You are neither the messiah nor a naughty boy

[@Brian-om2hh]

Could have fooled me.....

[@DishNetworkDealerNEO]

Mirai is now a brick, because BP shut down all their Hydrogen fueling stations in California!!

[@roodick85]

😂😂😂 didn't see that coming...

[@shahidrainudeen5640]

so the conclusion is hydrogen cars are like humans because they car inhale and exhale air and urinate😂😂

[@EinkOLED]

Humans exhale CO2.

[@snakeeyes9246]

If only hydrogen cars were like plants: take in CO2 and release oxygen. That would be nice.

[@boopitywoop7981]

Mazda Furai : Burned to extinction Toyota Mirai : Peed for innovation

[@RogerM88]

Fuel Cell and Hydrogen ICE powertrains could be the sucessor of the Diesel engine. With advantages to BEVs as bigger range, quicker refuel, more cheaper to produce, and bigger payload.

[@ramadhanisme7]

Yeah, the quicker refuel itself is a major advantage against ev

[@abi.hockeycop]

Manufacturing & transporting and storing hydrogen is not as practical. It's expensive to manufacture... Difficult to store as it is very light... Transporting isn't easy either.

[@RogerM88]

@@abi.hockeycop but still has a less Environmental impact, not needing to use big battery packs, that demand intensive mining and not very suitable to be fully recycled. You got the Smartphone industry as an example. Add to that, structural battery packs, that once too degraded, it totaled the car to the scrapyard.

[@abi.hockeycop]

@@RogerM88 Sure... But who's gonna bare the cost of building the entire fuel infrastructure? Making hydrogen is very expensive...storing much harder...& Then refueling isn't cheap either. Companies will go bankrupt.

[@GreenHoodier]

@@abi.hockeycop it was the same with evs until tesla came around and changed everything. Hydrogen cars is the best of both worlds, fuel infrastructure will come with time and the costs will be lowered, its an investment for the future. Evs will only get more expensive from now on, which is not the case for hydrogen cars.

[@colin_a]

I can't help but feel that once the infrastructure for hydrogen fuel stations gains pace, it will plough past the current plugin EV's. This mimics what we currently have, which works well. I can't see how you would want to sit for 30-60 mins charging a vehicle that only gives you half of what this could give you in 10mins..

[@Simon-dm8zv]

Unlikely. Driving on hydrogen will always remain far more expensive due to its very low efficiency. In daily life you do not wait for your car to charge because it happens at night or when you are at work 9 times out of 10.

[@apollian]

The energy costs to refine it, make it, transport it, and then store it will bring the same problems as Petrol. Electric Cars don't have that problem, you can charge at home without the need to create anything. There's too many gases needed to make it work. £65k for that when you can get the amazing Hyundai Ioniq 5 or KIA EV6 for £40k?

[@viksusername]

You can store hydrogen while producing it when there's sunshine or wind and use it later...

[@chriscollins550]

Also this is a lot better than any eV

[@apollian]

@@viksusername that costs money, my point is, your paying an outlet cost for refining, transportation and storage. A cost that Electric Car don't have, so the fact that it costs £70 to fill the tank will never benefit end users. And your using energy and fuel for all those 3 things above. The danger is when more options become available like Aluminium Air/ink cartridge formats, they'll be 100% recycled and far a cheaper cleaner alternative.

[@apollian]

@@chriscollins550 I can't see how that works out, refining will use up a lot of energy resources, so will storage. The costs of filling up are 6 times more than what it would cost you to top up your EV. So yeah, not understanding how this is better.

[@chriscollins550]

@@apollian as more people get them the cheaper it will become to do. Storage is no different to petrol now and some places are converting old fuel tanks to take hygegon. No with the cost of electricity going up from the suppliers also the UK don't have enough green energy sources and it's still burning oil or coal to power them. On top of that the national grid isn't up to the task. It wasn't that long ago we was still having power cuts at around 17.00 in the UK just by people coming home and putting on the kettle! You see what would happen if 60% of the UK put their car's on charge after coming home from work. Then there's the problem of disposing of the battery. They haven't come up with a Environmental way of disposing them at all. All making of the battery isn't environmental good at all.

[@brianm5753]

When Mat started talking about how Toyota could be selling the car at a loss I felt it

[@ryan_k2685]

Like the Lexus LFA 😢

[@ronniesmith2800]

Then he goes onto say "avoid it".......sighs.....

[@youngrenzel7462]

They will cover the loss from the profit of the Corolla.

[@tonigags808]

They probably will sell thousands in Asia , they are only are allowed 7% of the U.K market so you don’t see their best cars in the U.K . Lucky for the Germans because Toyota are well ahead in the game. Just check out how many car companies they have shares in and Lexus again are selling more SUV’s than their competitors in the U.K

[@milhooz]

@@tonigags808 they are not. Fuel cells are dead in South Korea as well after several Hydrogen stations exploded and Kia stopped their only hydrogen car. A station with a single stall cost more than €2 Million to build and you could built a 16+ stalls supercharger with that, and that would not need to be refilled by trucks. I still looking for the benefit of hydrogen for cars but I see only disadvantages.

[@BimmerWon]

My only qualm about the car is that the steering wheel is on the right side which could make it a little hard and illegal to drive in the states.

[@salamandersuzuki8366]

Mat is the Stick of Truth personified, how dare car manufacturers send their cars to get the bashing.

[@pomme_paille]

« In fact, that is the sound of Science » - Matt Watson, 2021.

[@bhagwanfruglee1662]

I looked into the Mirai Toyota even gives you three years of free hydrogen, which is PERFECT if you plan on doing a 36 month term lease The problem is, even in New York and California there’s very few stations and it makes it almost imposs

[@paulbedichek2679]

No stations for FCV in NY Ca has plenty,Germany leads with stations lets have a video about Germans buying the Mirai,of course they love to burn coal,so maybe not.

[@joa8593]

The next (very obvious) step is the upcoming plug-in hydrogen cars Toyota is launching in 2023. You charge at home for your commute, use hydrogen only on road trips. Still needs more stations, but way fewer.

[@Jeremy-mc2ut]

@@joa8593 Or, you know, just get a BEV. Hydrogen is a dead end.

[@joa8593]

@@Jeremy-mc2ut I wanted to get a BEV, but it isn't practical for my driving pattern or living situation, it's not even an option so I currently own a hybrid. Maybe years from now if ev charging stations become ubiquitous at apartments and hotels, but if you do that the recharging infrastructure is even more costly than hydrogen. It's really only for people with both detached homes and daily commutes.

[@Jeremy-mc2ut]

@@joa8593 Many hotels already have destination charges. And why not use superchargers on the way if you need to? You think building new hydrogen filling stations all across the country is going to be easier than rolling out more super chargers and destination chargers? Hydrogen is just not practical to handle, transport or store on that scale. Plus it's very inefficient compared to charging with electricity.

[@stephenhall3515]

Matt is correct that Toyota evolves its 'projects' through to production and sales (not its constant engine refinements and hybrid development until it is ready) and this explains why the Mirai is a niche product, expensive but individual cars will last for ages. Mr Toyoda plainly said years ago that the future would be hydrogen IC -- as his grandfather had tested in the 1930s -- but that EVs would be a necessary experiment for a single economic generation (= 20 years from manufacture to landfill or recycling). Sino-Japanese economists undertook a vast parallel survey of motor vehicle needs many years ago which predicted the EV stampede (especially in the USA and western Europe) but a majority of vehicles being hybrids, using petroleum in the short term but quickly changing to hydrogen of various "colors" or a hydrogen carrier such as ammonia. The Mirai's hydrogen cell experiment was a necessity for the industry for trial in the real world and when gaseous hydrogen pumps become common in service stations these will be able to be topped up alongside hydrogen hybrid IC vehicles. Hydrogen fuels (quite a variety including ammonia hydrogen on heavy vehicles and plant equipment where sustained raw power is less important than responsiveness) will be delivered to filling stations in the same was as is 'normal' fuels, whereas EV chargers are a different matter and (mostly oil) company owners of these stations in the USA have proved to be unenthusiastic. This is partly due to electric companies being inconsistent and failing to maintain lines. The USA does not have a grid system as such. States legislation and red tape also hold up EV charging as a viable nationwide prospect. Hydrogen fuels distribution will be largely co-owned by existing fuel companies in the USA but there will be more freedom of enterprise in Europe and Asia. Hydrogen of different grades ('colors') is a byproduct of many industrial processes on all inhabited continents and some surprising countries use their climates and resources to make gaseous hydrogen as a primary product. The really big producers, however, are Russia and the CIS, China, Indonesia, Spain, some Nordic states, Australia and Brazil. Canada finances many of these producers as production at home is a challenge. Japan buys hydrogen from Russia and currently disputed islands between the two countries are being considered as energy producing co-hubs. The thinking here seems to include fueling vessels for the Arctic seaways with grades of hydrogen being byproducts for domestic and export markets and is diplomatically advanced. The ships are likely to use ammonia or a blend to fulfil spill agreements in a delicate ecosystem.

[@andy1977]

Why compare the weight with a Model S though if it has less interior and boot space than a Model 3? And the Model 3 long range weighs exactly the same, despite batteries.

[@chriscollins550]

I take this over any eV.

[@nordic5490]

@@chriscollins550 why ? HFC cars are actually evs with their small battery charged by the fuel cell. The fuel cell cannot provide the instantaneous current needed for acceleration. These are complex cars with the tiny drive battery being constantly thrashed, with deep discharge. The drive battery will probably only last 100k kms. Then the fuel cell membrane will likely also need replacing in 100k kms and the other additional maintence required that pure evs do not have. A HFC car will be expensive to maintain, and likely be a throw away after 100k kms. In addtion, 3-5x more renewable electricity needs to be generated to provide the same power at the wheels for a HCF car than is needed to provide the same power at the wheels for a pure ev. And packaging is also an issue for HFC cars - all those systems need to go somewhere in the car. Then there is the infrastructure issue.

[@kenodhekanayake6314]

Toyota's finally working on it's 90's infotainment system...

[@drsus0]

I remember when there are just 11 EV charging station in all of England.... might cost the same as petrol to fill... but it doesnt spew poison

[@at0mly]

It would be really great if they made hydrogen fuel cell plug-in hybrid electric vehicles. That way you could have all of the convenience of each and avoid any range anxiety.

[@Brian-om2hh]

But that's what a hydrogen powered car is! The hydrogen is converted to electricity in the fuel cell, which then drives the electric motor........ A hydrogen powered car is actually an electric car.

[@701983]

@@Brian-om2hh But you can't plug it in and use cheap electricity from the grid instead of expensive hydrogen for short trips.

[@Brian-om2hh]

@@701983 Agreed, so probably better just to go with a BEV.....

[@DuckHunterGaming]

The Mirai is basically a slower electric car that you pay 10x more to fill up.

[@thebrowns5337]

But it is so much cleaner than ev. Think about lithium

[@DuckHunterGaming]

@@thebrowns5337 cleaner? Hydrogen won't be clean until they actually start using electrolysis to make it, even then it's a huge waste of energy when you could have just used it to fill up an electric car without all the loses.

[@llJeezusll]

Doesn't sound like it would be the safest vehicle to be in during an accident. Especially being in the back 😂

[@robertm8380]

Good review they need to promote on TV and have more fuel hydrogen stations

[@ModernDIYCraftsman]

That looks long, didn't expect backseat will be cramped.

[@ShifatAhmed07]

That’s what you said

[@UmarKhan-ww3lz]

Carwow, the next top gear, from humour to facts makes it fun 😎

[@Randomkaoz]

Good job toyota, I can't wait to drop over 50K for an Avalon, that is going to be more expensive than gasoline to deliver 4cyl camry power.

[@PaulHo]

I like the knobby bit!

[@josephanthony4868]

in the review of the Mirai Matt suggests you buy an ID.3, a Skoda, or any electric over Hydrogen. Honestly I don't understand why Toyota is still on hydrogen. Sure it is more efficient and overall better than an ICE but it still falls way behind Electric.

[@tomturner1115]

Because it shouldn't be a one horse race and quite frankly the hydrogen fuel cell in this vehicle out performs BEV (battery electric) on the market today - in terms of range. Its half the price of a Tesla model S whilst still achieving the same range. Also, Hydrogen fuel cell cars are still electric cars and battery electric has had a solid decade to develop its technology to where it is today. Fuels cells are just getting started and they will catch up and they will out perform BEVs. Which is important for those high mileage drivers in the country. Like with anything it need time to develop

[@SteveJones-om6ks]

Not everyone will be fortunate enough to have a home suitable for EV ownership. If you dont have the facility to charge at home an EV is going to be awkward, at best, to live with. 10 million cars in the UK park on-street every night and current plans for public charging are laughable in this country. Fuel cell addresses that problem as, like oil-based fuels, is completely residence-agnostic. Doesnt matter if you live in a caravan or a mansion you can use a fuel cell just the same.

[@mikeedwards350]

@@tomturner1115 fuel cells have been around nearly as long as batteries. The Mirai came out the same year as the Tesla model S.

[@vanvan143]

More efficiënt? Total energy cost per mile are over three times higher compared to an EV. Many people seem to forget H2 needs to be produced which cost a lot of energy. Then stored, transported and processed in the car. If H2 is taxed in the same way as fuel and electricity there is no business case for H2 cars anymore.

[@tomturner1115]

@@vanvan143 i bet we will be able what happens in the next 5 years. The business case is there for the technology and there is so much justification. I am seeing the issues if the electrical grid at the moment and the industry knows that we will have problems allowing everyone to charge BEVs at home - thats before we bring in electric heating. There's a graph that exists that demonstrates the ratio of range to weight of the vehcile. For BEVs for every mile you want to add the weight increases on a logarithmic scale. Where hydrogen remains linear on the x axis. This is a huge deal because more weight results in reduced efficiency.Now another thing, imagine how high mileage drivers suppose to cope with something that does like 300 miles (that is sensibly priced) fuel cells are a fraction of the cost of 400 mile range BEVs and will easily smash the mileage. Then think the government are telling us to charge a little but often to prevent blackouts. So if we centralise energy production we can control it and manage it. Its no different to petrol and diesel prpduction andets face it: hydrogen is already being produced on a large scale and there are trails being brought in to inject it into the gas grid (bit off topic but this reduces emissions from boilers by 7% under current mixtures) so there will be no difference making more. But then at the same time I think EVs should pay fuel duty and should may road tax like they would in a petrol. Yes its annoying. But then we are going to sting people that are worse off when schemes come In that will penalise the driver just to plug a tax hole. I say EVs should pay tax because I don't think its fair that two cars that are identical, where one is registered before April 2017 and one after 2017; after April that car has to pay tax but if it registered before it would be free. So if that cars tax can no longer be free. This is the only way we can make it fair for everyone that uses the road. It makes it fair for all. Its inevitable

[@cuprashoe]

I think it looks great

[@Gachartales7124]

He doesn’t like Japanese car

[@catttt5649]

I agree

[@catttt5649]

True

[@remisummer760]

Sounds good. Its not as affordable as an EV but greener? (because the battery is much smaller). I think we just need more filling stations though.

[@mskkulka6306]

This is the future of Automobiles. Well Done Toyota and thanks to CarWOW team for this review. However would have liked to see the safety features of the car especially relating to the hydrogen stored during a crash.

[@TheGamingNorwegian]

This car looks great, but youre COMPLETELY wrong and it really shows why FCEVs arent the future. Its a reason why other large car manifacturers like GM dropped hydrogen in the late 90`s. Hydrogen stations costs 40 times more to build than charging stations, producing hydrogen is worse for environment than producing petrol and diesel while being extremely expensive to produce, filling the car up costs as much if not more than filling up a petrol or diesel vehicle, hydrogen still has to be transported with trucks like diesel and petrol while electricity dont, the car itself is to expensive for what it gets you, its not as quick as pretty much every other EV in its price class, its got less interior space, rear seats cant be folded down because of the tanks, it has a transmission tunnel as well because of the tanks and the fuel cell takes up all the space in the frunk which couldve been used for storage. Fuel cell will never be the future for personal vehicles, literally never. it might be for ships semi trucks and planes, but it isnt for personal vehicles.

[@TheInternetCheck]

"Use android auto amd some crappy apple " love it 😂😂

[@IBo99608]

Childish

[@andrewzhuk8713]

KZbin, please add image mirroring option for videos like this 😭

[@theolind2848]

That looks good 😍

[@elenaa8436]

AISURU.TOKYO/AGNEZ/?[beautiful-without-bikini😱] (◍•ᴗ•◍)✧*。18 years and over KZbin: This is fine Someone: Says "heck" KZbin: Be gone #однако #я #люблю #таких #рыбаков #Интересно #забавно #девушка #смешная #垃圾

[@chaos.complessita]

The sound of the FUTURE...

[@Brian-om2hh]

Naturally, because the wheels are driven by an electric motor......

[@take427]

トヨタミライを取り上げてくれるのは嬉しい😃日本語版も待ってます。I'm glad to pick up Toyota Mirai 😃 I'm waiting for the Japanese version as well.

[@bicyclist2]

If I had the money, and lived in England, I'd buy it. James May is the smartest of the three Grand Tour presenters. Thanks.

[@vanessaoelmann4211]

The range is honestly underwhelming, especially for that price point and for the non existent infrastructure of hydrogen stations. Better to just go electric

[@carwow]

😢

[@cuprashoe]

To be fair it's still electric just doesn't use batteries

[@vanessaoelmann4211]

@cheezl the efficiency of a BEV can’t be beaten tho. E fuels and hydrogen suck in that aspect. Scientists are trying to push the limits of physics to increase efficiency but it will never even get close to an EV. In my opinion hydrogen only makes sense for trucks

[@rayhan4502]

@@vanessaoelmann4211 "but it will never even get close to an EV", nah, it's possible, just wait, our scientists are sophisticated mate

[@vanessaoelmann4211]

@@rayhan4502 well hydrogen has an efficiency rate somewhere between 23 and 38% while electric cars somewhere between 75 and 92%, good luck mate😂

[@pankajmittal3088]

True Green Hybrid SUV: 15kw plugin battery (>110km range) with efficient regenerative breaking, ultra high capacity >1.5kw solar top on roof & bonnet and small hydrogen 4kg tank (>350km range) for light-weight & cost-effective green hybrid FCEV (>600km range) under $25k or ₹200k..!!

[@yurielcundangan9090]

Tom Clarx: Descends Ricciardo: *ROARSSSS

[@rohan-rathod]

Something is very wrong about Mat, all petrol/diesel cars farts carbon monoxide but never did he mentioned it. This eco-friendly car just produces water as by-product and he already labelled it "urinates"

[@paulbedichek2679]

He's pretty anti environment.

[@badseed0]

Love it, Like having a malinois 🤣🤣 yeah, crazy stubborn dogs 🤟🏻

[@GodMoodAz49]

Fact: Mat actually has a Bachelor of Science in Chemistry. 😇

[@thebrowns5337]

He literally said that himself ffs

[@Brian-om2hh]

Sadly, I haven't yet spotted any degree of maturity.....

[@oldschoolmk7056]

Bruh I wouldn't buy this car for £65.000 even if it didn't lack Hydrogen filling stations, the practicality is awful.

[@xpengfangirl7942]

without FSD it is 50k

[@Brian-om2hh]

And so are the running costs.... Around 4 or 5 times the cost per mile over a typical EV.....

[@the_urbanphantom]

Great analogy, having 2 Belgian Malinois I now understand all I need to know about the car. 😆

[@dy7296]

As we all know, an atom consists of a nucleus and electron right? The way the Fuel Cell works is by using a special membrane that separates them, in which hydrogen is the easiest as it just consist of a proton and an electron, "forcing" the electron to flow through the electrical circuit before it can merge back with the protons (or nucleuses) and react with oxygen on the other side to create water. Although it's very unlikely the protons will meet the same electrons as the flow of electrons inside a circuit is actually about 40x slower than snail. The electric current might be near the speed of light, but the electrons are not.

[@MXR_Sparky]

What an adult “headline” hahahahaha ffs