WEIRDEST Headset Out Now - HTC VIVE Pro 2 Review

[@CasandChary]

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[@Lecrie]

Your reviews are very detailed and enjoyable for sure. I especially like your unbiased criticism. Although all these things you say about these headsets I've already kind of heard from other sources, but you're a sure way to know what's up.

[@CasandChary]

@@fenriswolf-always-forward I will try the supersampling - Thank you! Do you still get edge-to-edge clarity without moving your head, so just your eyeballs?

[@CasandChary]

@@Lecrie Happy to hear, thank you. Yes, unfortunately we weren't able to get the headset early but hopefully more reviews are always welcome? At least I usually watch almost every review when I'm interested in a product.

[@sipery]

@Qi QI I have a desktop with 1660 ti, 32gb 3200, and a i7 10700f, I recently bought the VP2 and it runs perfectly fine with a lower resolution. I am planning on getting something like the RTX 4080 when it releases to get the max res but for now if your fine with using lower res and refresh rate it is probably fine

[@vrforseniors9830]

My Vive just developed red and green verticle lines. does that mean it will soon fail like Valve Index does?

[@Darktidejg31]

So my pro 2 showed up yesterday. I'm coming from a rift 2 and quest 2. PROS: color and contrast (very impressive considering LCD), zero screen door for me, audio way better than used to, way better FOV! (I'm using VRCover Mod) heard people talk about its Like looking through slits but I didn't feel that way at all. The FOV was my favorite part or this. (I do not wear glasses). Cons: sweet spot very small (takes me a few seconds to find it each time. I'm not used to that), god rays (not used to them to this degree and they do suck in high contrast games), edge to edge clarity (I noticed I had to move my head more than just my eyes vs the rift or quest, very clear in center though). Heavy headset! It's well balanced and normally comfortable but I noticed when I look up to say look at a sky or dragon fly overhead I can feel the weight more pushing on me. Not a big deal but most reviews saying it very comfortable but that's not my experience always.) Oh and the Vive base stations (ordered separately) 2.0 came with one dead so that sucked but vive support was amazing and they hooked me right up with a new one.

[@CasandChary]

Thank you so much for sharing extra thoughts! It's really nice hearing about more experiences as many things like comfort is so subjective. Thank you again :-)

[@Darktidejg31]

@@CasandChary No Problem, thank you for always getting out good reviews! I do not regret my decision for the VP2 coming from the rift S at all. One thing I noticed and it may be because I'm only running a 2070 GPU ( for now)but when I set the vive console to a resolution steamVR seems to change it even if I set steam vr to only be 1x or 100%. Have you noticed this? Maybe steamvr changes based on your GPU regardless of Vive settings? Anyways keep up the amazing videos, you guys are great!

[@Darktidejg31]

@Qi QI So my 2070 can't fully push the VP2. I do not know about the 1660. I can say my son had a 1060 (6Gb Video memory) and 16Gb ram and he could play the rift S fine in most games. Never tried the VP2 on it though, sorry. He upgraded to a 3080ti and a Reverb G2 so we don't have the 1060 anymore or I would test it. I can tell you you will not be able to run it at full specs but possibly performance mode.

[@paulgreen2238]

Hey Cas! That's a great review, completely spot on. I have a Vive Pro, a HP G2 and now a Pro 2. I think the Pro 2 edges out the G2 simply because of tracking and the use of Steam VR. WMR has always been flaky for me, and having a very high res headset through steam vr is a perfect combination. I also noticed the buzzing in the audio and it seems to be a common problem, but it's forgivable given the other advantages of the headset. I'll definitely be using the Pro2 instead of the G2, but I'll still use my OG Pro when going wireless, because the new displays are wasted when using wireless. Yes, it's expensive, but HTC also say this isn't targeted at consumers, it's a Pro headset for business. So it can't be compared to the Facebook headset on price. Great job covering everything in your review. Keep up the great work.

[@Vadorin]

Great review! I've received my Vive Pro 2 two days ago and I also noticed the constant buzzing mentioned at 12:14. It seems to be related to the display somehow because it gets louder the brighter the scene is. I didn't have time to test it further, but I will do so on the weekend. I really hope this problem can be fixed through the software, because it might be a dealbreaker for me.

[@CasandChary]

Thanks for mentioning this. Now I know it may not be just a defective unit... A shame tho. I wonder what that is.

[@RossNealeGrizzly]

@@CasandChary did you ever find out ?

[@SensejWorld]

@@CasandChary Same question as above :) .. I am consider which headset to buy ;)

[@Roguuuu]

Do u notice any blur in vive pro 2 I heard the lens cutoff makes for a weird 3D effect

[@gingasvr]

I’ve never really commented before, but I’m a huge fan of you guys and I’ve been watching since your first videos with the OG Vive back in like 2016. There’s not enough women in the VR space and you guys inspired me to start my own KZbin channel for VR modding and tech stuff. Anyways keep it up and I love your channel!

[@TheLakotariver]

I received a email from Vive today about taking proper care of your new headset. They do say to turn off your Power Link box when not in use. You did say something about that in your video and I think that is wise advise. Thank you for your video 👋🤓

[@eugenecia9424]

Better than me g2.I have full edge-to-edge clarity.Better colors,better blacks,Taller vof,better and smooter software,and better tracking.bey bey g2.

[@scottfitzpatrick1939]

Hello thank you as always for the awesome and well done review. I agree with every point you made. I am a OG Vive, Vive Pro, Vive Cosmos(which I RMA'd) owner and I preordered the Vive Pro 2, and I requested the RMA 2 hours after I opened the box. I think my behavior helps underscore the emotional disappointment I felt. The Audio buzz was also an issue on the headset I received and I can't believe they went to market with that level of audio quality. Although the sweetspot image looks great and no screen door finally the edge blurriness was too much to feel satisfied with the improvement. I also noticed the glare right away. If you are in a dark environment and you stand looking away from a light source the glare actually lights up within your FOV. I saw two bright points of light in my FOV from a light that was behind me. That was super strange. This other thing I noticed is they seemed to design the FOV around the shape of the mask so instead of the oval shaped view I am used to it looked like looking out of a scubba mask. I am sure with time that is a non-thing but I just noticed it. Anyway I absolutely loved my vive and the vive pro is amazing and my only complaint on the original pro is screen door and FOV. I just couldn't come to feel that the Vive Pro 2 was enough improvement to hold onto. I am now awaiting any announcement from Valve on a next gen release. I think I am switching brands. If Vive fixed the audio issue on the Pro 2, or the customer is willing to get their own headphones it will be an awesome entry into VR but for an existing Vive Pro user I don't feel its enough.

[@PietroPizzi]

You have the best VR Reviews I know so far, so keep going :)!! I only miss one Point: How is the FoV with glasses on (Also the min. not the max. FoV, so to speak)?

[@CasandChary]

If there’s more interest in this, I’ll add it to reviews! Thanks for suggesting!

[@MacMiskenn]

Liked mostly because of the proud computer-pat. :)

[@skuffd-semicolon]

Woo! Been waiting for this review for far too long :D

[@CasandChary]

[@willtaylor8260]

We have the exact same specs for hardware, that makes me stoked to get mine when it shows up later this month. I know it’s gonna run great.

[@mr.mysteriousyt6118]

its a waste of money

[@willtaylor8260]

@@mr.mysteriousyt6118 You're right it was lol returned it within the week.

[@SingleRacerSVR]

Fantastic and very helpful review, CAS - but still very disappointed that all the so-called "second gen" headsets have major compromises amongst all of them.... I guess I'm just hoping now, that my original Rift can last out till the 3rd gen headsets start hitting the market - as I still love my original Oculus Rift. (even with it screen-door effect ; )))

[@CasandChary]

A refresh every 2 generations? I like it! Thanks for watching!

[@Vespyr_]

very sensible. I won't go with a Quest 3 unless its st 299, otherwise thanks to virtual desktop, im set. :)

[@KentYo.]

What's interesting is you say Vive pro 2 suffers from a noticably smaller vertical field of view compared to the others. but you measured it measured bigger than the G2 and only 1 degree smaller than the quest 2. Makes me think the scale is off inside the headset., maybe a smaller scaled world which would cheat the fov measurement. Do you feel the scale is correct when playing games? Or maybe you're just more used to the index s biggest vertical field of view. Id also like to hear more about the distortion you noticed but only mentioned once.

[@valrond]

Very nice review, Cas. I receive mine yesterday. Yep, the HMD runs hot, hotter than any other headset, which means in the summer i won't use it much, and it won't replace my Index for action/fitness games. It's odd, I'll use my Index with the vive wands, and the VP2 with the Index knuckles (I still find the wands better for anything that doesn't need a joystick). The clarity is very similar to my Reverb G1, but the godrays and glare make it a bit worse, but you gain perfect tracking. Oh, and one thing nobody has said, I really like that it has a turn on/off button. My other headsets I have to unplug, either the USB port of the mains adapter. It's very convenient.

[@KyleMorrison]

I have never heard of anyone preferring the wands. That's wild.

[@valrond]

No, it's just the nature of those controllers. Sure the knuckles are good for what they are better than the wands, using supported games where you can use the finger tracking, and games with joysticks, as the wands don't have them. They are not very comfortable, AND, they are quite flimsy. When I play Beat Saber, BoxVR, Audioshield, Powerbeats VR, Thrill of the fight, etc, why would I risk damaging the Knuckles when they offer not a single advantage over the wands?

[@BigDaddyMacc]

Why is no one talking about the SWEETSPOT? Its amazing on pro2.

[@sonsolar]

@@BigDaddyMacc Not in my experience it isn't.

[@BigDaddyMacc]

@@sonsolar a tip for you, lift ur headset up. Its not like pro1 in the middle. You have to be a bit under middle and everything is clear as the day and you wont get blur image at all. You can notice you dont have to move your head. You can look around with your eyes and have clear image. You couldnt do that on pro1. Im not even looking for sweetspot, its just right there...

[@tasmania9576]

Very good review!

[@Safio-nf4ed]

I would like a game where you have missions to do, But there are People who do the same missions as you do of course for different levels etc. Long story short it would be great if there was a mix of mission games and vr Chat

[@MadMetzler81]

Thanks for this extensive and excellent review! And thanks a lot for this little extra (thin cover FOV)! ;-)

[@CasandChary]

No probs. I wouldn't use this headset without it now.

[@discorabbit]

Best headset for backflips?

[@REZZA2020]

A pleasant and informative review. Passionate about high-end VR and it is nice to see other intelligent people pushing the Industry forward. Subs for you!

[@bujin5455]

IMO, the Vive Pro with the GearVR lens swap is the best setup. I couldn't stand the fresnel lenses on the original pro, I can't stand the double stack on the Index, and I can't imagine the Pro 2 is any better with the issues that fresnel brings and which seem to be further accentuated by high res displays. Unfortunately, since the Pro 2 moved to a double stack like in the Index, and the shape is now different, that means the GearVR mod is not a viable option. I can only hope eventually someone will release a quality, high res, lighthouse tracked, non-fresnel HMD, but until then, I'll be staying with the original Pro.

[@DerekIwasiuk]

great review. On the fence upgrading my vive pro still as regarding content. Just don't have any good games out there.

[@VampiroAlhazred]

Thanks for the review, especially for testing it with the Wireless Adapter.

[@wertypertysenior4130]

information delivered in best way!

[@natekemp1042]

Hey Cas and Chary Just a heads up NextGen Vr is doing a review on the Varjo Vr-3. He just did a unboxing about 15 minutes ago.

[@hughmac7423]

I have one and I think it is pretty good. I got it as an upgrade from the Vive Pro. The FOV is fine in my mind, better than the Vive Pro and the HP Reverb G2. The things I don't like, first the max IPD could be larger, I have an IPD larger than the adjustment, I can use the headset but it is not as in focus as it could be. You are right about the lenses not being perfect.

[@neurokinetik64ES]

I hope the Vive console is something that is not permanently needed for this headset, and that maybe (and it's a long shot) it will be natively supported in SteamVR. I really preferred not having to run extra layers on top of Steam VR, like what we had with the original Vive and the Valve Index.

[@GAzcona]

Thank you for this review. Very helpful!

[@toddlichtenwalter2041]

Cas, which headset has the most content? It seems that it is still Viveport at $88/year subscription. The Oculus store is too small it seems. Can the Quest 2 play all the games in Viveport or is it something like "It can play around 80% of the apps/games on Viveport. The reason I still stick with Vive is because I get Viveport, Steam and Oculus Store through Revive, and thus, access to the most content, or am I am wrong and this has changed recently?

[@heehee63]

I have a quest 2 and I've used viveport through it. The quest 2 has access to the most games. Because every game on the viveport store is also on either steam and/or oculus store as well. And the quest has no problems accessing those stores so if it has difficulties playing a game on viveport, you can just use one of those other stores to play the game. Add to this the quest has a number of quest exclusive games no other headset can play (not even with revive). it for sure plays the most games. Yes, maybe only 80-90% of the viveport games will work with the quest (usually its a maps oculus controllers as vive wands issue which I'm not actually sure wont happen with index controllers too).. So what you lose isn't access to the game but free access through vivepirt subscription. Of course, the quest is almost a third of the cost as a vive pro 2 so you easily could buy every single game you wanted and missed out on in the viveport store and probably still have have hundreds left over.

[@toddlichtenwalter2012]

@@heehee63 ok thanks for the scoop

[@CasandChary]

Very fair points! Content is king for sure. To answer you, Quest 2 can play most SteamVR games that are on VivePort using Air Link. Not sure about Viveport but I guess it's the same. So I think the Quest has the most content as you can combine all stores. But I don't think that's the thing, for newcomers, YES Viveport is a great service as there's so much to try (as mentioned). It's just that if you've been playing VR games for a while and you've played most titles, there's not much to look out for EXCEPT for Oculus games. We need someone else like HTC to step up in the content market and invest in some games too that's not Oculus exclusive. Here's to hoping it will happen. Btw, I talk about this at 16:28!

[@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep]

@@CasandChary It's kinda sad that we can't count on Valve to do the same. :/ I know internally their process is very meticulous and time consuming to produce incredible games like Alyx but I really wish they invested in indie VR dev as well.

[@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep]

@@heehee63 This really is a situation where Oculus is just buying up exclusives and none of their competitors are even bothering to do anything.

[@tatamapa7041]

Thank you for sharing this video, very informative and useful as guide in buying the latest VR headset. God bless.

[@x32i77]

I got almost every hmd at home and the Vive Pro 1 with lense mod is still the best HMD there is for an enthusiast ( in consumer section) You get Edge to Edge clarity. No godrays no smearing no mura no chromatic aberration ! And you get the best colors since it is the shapest OLED consumers hmd .

[@toddlichtenwalter2041]

what is the lens mod you speak of?

[@x32i77]

@@toddlichtenwalter2041 you swap out the lenses from your hmd . Swap the plastic fresnel lenses to actual glas aspherical lenses. There are a lot of tutorials on KZbin about that

[@toddlichtenwalter2041]

@@x32i77 ok thanks for letting me know.

[@x32i77]

@@rangerkayla8824 it cost me for the whole Vive pro setup with base stations and wand controllers ( that I can seel xD ) 500€ and the wireless adapter was also included 😃

[@KentYo.]

@@x32i77 wow you got a steal on that deal😲

[@kevinslatten9573]

The vive pro 2 is a great headset, but not an upgrade for people with the G2. The pro 2 have wide face gasket. Spacer under the cushion might fix that on each side. I returned mine.

[@JoyTheDigitalKnight]

Thanks Cas, great review! Pros : resolution, FOV, wireless, and tracking Cons : The audio, lenses, the price

[@YoshimiPinkRobot]

The tracking sucks on this. Even though it uses base stations it loses tracking constantly and you start floating around in vr and get thrown away from your co trollers. No issues with any other headset that uses my base stations. Just this one.

[@KyleMorrison]

@@YoshimiPinkRobot haven't seen this in any other review. Maybe defective unit

[@CasandChary]

Thank you!

[@CasandChary]

@@YoshimiPinkRobot Base Stations should NOT lose tracking like that. Place them high up facing down and in the corners, opposite from each other. Make sure all reflective surfaces are not in the room as it can cause trouble, like mirrors and windows.

[@kny1701]

How did you manage to move the nose flaps when wearing the headset to make it more comfortable? 10:19

[@vroitwyrd]

Excellent review and very thorough. Thanks!

[@CasandChary]

Thank you for watching and happy to hear!

[@silenthashassin8912]

Can't front, the clip of the magazine well looked pretty impressive.

[@CasandChary]

HAHA YES I alwayssss stare at it when I go back in.. you'd think the wow factor goes away by now.

[@crowntotheundergroud]

I enjoyed this review so much and you are so well spoken and informed. I was wondering how the display stacked up against the hp Reverb's and of course you satisfied my curiosity. I did not know that the full resolution is not supported with the wireless adapter. Next gen WiGig (The 60ghz tech that I'm pretty sure the Vive wireless adapter uses) will support a bandwidth of up to 20-40gbps and will most likely be sufficient enough to push this headset's full res at 120hz. Hopefully this comes to fruition. This is one of the best reviews for anything that I've ever watched!

[@anarchyforlive]

Ik waardeer jou ook! You made me giggle when you were proud at your PC, haha! I am doubting between the hp reverb g2 incombo with valve controllers/base stations and the HTC Vice pro2. I do currently do not have any headset as I gifted my rift S to someone to make him very happy. Purely based on performance. Which one should I go for. I was surprised to hear in you review the visual experience is actually nicer on the HP one!

[@martinurbanek3037]

You don't need springs to take the headset off/on without dialing the knob. You hold it to your eyes like a pair of binoculars and then swing the frame up and down using the hinges. That is why the hinges are there. Once you have it fit comfortably you never need to mess with the knob. You state that the design is outdated and then say it's one of the most comfortable headsets. Why should they redesign something that works well? I would rather they spend development resources on the parts that don't work as well, like the lenses. I agree with most other points of your review. Thank you.

[@Gyabi]

Great video! Its a really good review :3. Those pixels really looked great! By the way.. Do chu plan on making Full Dive informational video's?

[@CasandChary]

I would love to. Was thinking about it actually! Maybe I'll start a poll see if there's interest ;-)

[@Gyabi]

If so, Hype!

[@shangyepp5723]

Is the best review, thank you.

[@Helifax19]

Really looking forward for the Vive Pro 2! Having both the Vive Pro 1 + Wireless Adapter is a game changer for me! A lot more than Quest 2 and their Link/AirLink solution. The Quest 2, imo, has the worst FOV of any headset I ever used - Yes I am on the 3rd setting as my IPD is 69mm -_-. The Compression and macroblocking as well as the extreme low resolution when using Air Link or Link, for that matter, really kills it when comparing it with the Vive Pro + Wireless. Can't wait for the update to the Wireless adapter to support higher resolution, even if not 1:1 as native, that bump in resolution @90hz should be most then enough. (I wish they could support full fat resolution at 120hz via wireless, but they can't as they hit the bandwidth limitation of 60Ghz WiGi spec ^_^ Maybe in Wireless Adapter V2 ^_^) Thank you very much for this review which is very informative! PS: I wonder if someone will actually make VR lens mods like for the original Vive and Vive Pro ^_^

[@MrBoriqua2000]

Do i need to buy a separate cradle or wires to connect the wireless adapter?

[@mrdummy_nl]

The biggest problem are GPU prices. If you have not good GPU for it, especially if you use older gen headset for long time and want upgrade to newer generations, you cannot use all Pro2 features. I think most people will look more at prices and which headset will offer most of it. You might guess already: it's Quest 2. Prices are very sharp (379 EUR already for 64GB) and you get nice FOV and resolution. The resolution bump from Q2 to Pro2 is much smaller than resolution bump from Rift S or old gen Vive to Pro2. As long the GPU prices are too high, many people don't want spend too much money for it today. So i think Q2 will stay for many people choice #1. They will wait long as possible until GPUs are at better prices, then they have more money saved and can afford to buy Pro2. Now, you noticed the lack of HTC design and improvement in expensive headset. Lenses are again not great (not learned from Pro), same mic design, pretty same audio design. I have feeling they saved too much development time / invest and design almost right away with same design. And.... the controllers. That is very big shame! HTC is clearly lazy! I am afraid Pro2 will not win many hearts (unless you're for long time Vive user and still love it, also if you have many Vive accessory and wireless adapter... then you have no much choice and will go for Pro2) and not with high GPU prices today. 800 EUR is still a lot money for one headset. Good review and you compare well pros and cons. It's not clear winner today and has some outdated design, even it's still comfy and HTC has also doing it for 3rd party market. You can still buy 3rd party accessory and that is good for 3rd party industry. I think this is first reason why HTC keep the old design. Oh yeah: the heat is also bad. Many people don't want sweat more with hot headset. Why is this not cared to keep head cool?

[@KuroNekos]

i tried 2 units and they both had the same flaw @cas and chary withc is a green line of pixels on the right eye on the upper side thaht is disturbing its like dead pixels but theyre green and both of my 2 tried units had this i got my money back after thaht

[@AngryPenguin22]

Its interesting there is no venting of any kind for the heat increase.

[@kamitsure7017]

Hey Cas, Thank you for the review , I wanted to ask regarding the cable to the headset, one is connected to the adapter, but there is the opposite side that show circle symbol on it , i wonder where that cable goes and what is the use for that? and i am having a problem regarding of the cable , my gaming laptop doesnt have displayed cable port, can i just buy an extender or what to make it happen? and also last , the HTC vive say my laptop "might not be ready for VR" , i have check in steam VR , and i got around 85-90 percent bar and ready for VR , quite confuse about this. ur reply will help me a lot, thank you !

[@CallsignVega]

I returned to sender my Vive Pro 2. It should be amazing according to paper specs, but in practice not so much..

[@mikeymyke]

Hi, do you know if a 3080 is capable of running the headset at the Ultra or extreme setting?

[@blackphysicalexperimentation]

I had the first vive. I want a new one maybe, because of the games for vive

[@burdconcurred7513]

I own the Quest 2, how does this one stack compared to it?

[@MrAndrew0511]

Yo I am in the market for a new headset in 2023 have a beefy pc and a previous vive that lasted almost a decade now. I really want a vive but tbh I only really loved my old vive after the gear v2 mod. Can you do that same mod on the vive pro 2? If so how does it look?

[@Sampler19]

It really tends to get a bit hot after some time.

[@sonny12681]

I have an issue. I upgraded my GPU to a radeon 6900 xt and the Oculus rift s software thinks that my pc is out of date and it won't run. Should I switch to a VIVE PRO 2. I hope that AMD 6000 xt series works well with the new VIVE headsets.

[@BigBoss7777777]

5:41 what game is that?

[@Venserql]

True VR content is gonna come after PSVR2 gets released. There are gonna be exclusives but some of the games are gonna come to PC as well.

[@impracticalKim]

I hope that thats the case. The games are really stagnating at the moment and facebook buying devs doesnt make it any better.

[@toddlichtenwalter2041]

Hey gang, I have another question. I am a school teach running a VR classroom 1:1 using HP Omens and Vives. My colleague in Canada is being tasks to pilot something similar to what I am doing however, we were thinking he could save a lot of money and just use Quest 2s. This morning I realize that may not be the case because we want him to be able to have access to Steam and Viveport Infinity so that he has enough content available to craft a full middle school years curriculum of games and apps. I don't see that happening content and cost wise by using just the Oculus Store. I just watch Cas's side-loading video using an Android phone but honestly that looks sketchy and hard to manage for him as a school teacher in practical everyday deployment terms. Thoughts anyone? My thinking right now is the best setup for him is Oculus Quest 2s and HP Omen gaming PCs (at either 1K or 1.5K price per PC) = about $30k.

[@raventrax3287]

Hi, and thank you for your test :) I took the plunge and bought the vp2, received yesterday. I am very disappointed, the image is blurry, in comparison with the index it is day and night. Also my gpu is completely at the pickup (2080S) regardless of the different modes (balanced high etc) nothing affects the framerate and the sharpness are bad. Have you encountered this kind of problem with your headset? (all my software is up to date, and the headset is well positioned on my head, my ipd is also well adjusted) Thank you in advance

[@pragma2017]

Thanks for another great review. safe and healthy 🙏🏼🙏🏼🇦🇺🇦🇺

[@demonhighwayman9403]

I guess I'll stick with my rift cv1 due to heat issues and price of this unit.

[@Dibbler613]

there is the Quest 2 that is pretty good and is quite cheap. The CV1 is really outdated, low res, massive screendoor. The Quest 2 isnt THE top headset, but its good

[@CasandChary]

You're a real OG. We miss talking to you

[@demonhighwayman9403]

@@CasandChary I miss our little talks too, I always try and watch all your regular video uploads to try and help support the channel though :)

[@skuffd-semicolon]

That performance comparison between the reverb g2 has me curious, would you say it achieves better performance than the quest 2 at same resolution and refresh rate?

[@CasandChary]

I haven't tried at such high resolution for Quest 2, so I don't know, but Oculus Air Link performance has always been good for me. However, there's compression, so visual quality wise, I think Vive Pro 2 beats it. Then again price difference is large too 💸

[@natekemp1042]

Hey are you interested in reviewing a Varjo Vr-3?

[@b.s.7693]

Are you aware of the problem, that the vive console submits strange resolutions to steamVR? Th thing is, they are not really related to which is shown in console. E.g. when you set "extreme", steamVR receives a lower resolution than "high". And everyone gets other resolution, depending on their hardware. Thus nearly no test about sharpness and other visual quality is really comparable... thanks to the weird vive console.

[@CharlieWeller]

Yep. And she is testing with a 2080ti, so it will automatically set her Steam SS lower than it normally would for a 3080/3090. I wonder if she took this into account with her through the lens footage.

[@CasandChary]

I didn't know about this - How annoying. What I did was set Vive Console to Extreme, and also tried out SteamVR Custom Resolution settings, auto and a couple of custom %. If I did something wrong here, please let me know how to properly set this?

[@b.s.7693]

@@CasandChary Its not your fault, the console is simply buggy. So check the following: figure what which adjustment in the console results in the highest res in SteamVR (compare at 100 oder 150%). In many cases, its "high" or automatic mode. And only then you have maxed out the picture quality. Maybe you could do a little extra video :) (a lot of people dont know this problem)

[@CasandChary]

@@b.s.7693 Thank you! At the very least, I did check out custom 150% and 100% in SteamVR. Not much difference in clarity, altho 150% is a bit sharper :) but both are very sharp! Doesn't help with the lenses unfortunately ;-)

[@b.s.7693]

@@CasandChary ok, sounds like a solid statement, thanks to queen(s) of VR!

[@umpire5615]

You mentioned that the nose rest can be moved, can you explain how? It super annoying feeling them touching just bellow the eyes 😩

[@CasandChary]

What I do is before I put on the headset, I use my fingers to flip the flaps DOWN. So it lays on your face much comfortably.

[@KentYo.]

Vive Pro 1 you could just take off the nose flap piece

[@dancingcaulk2656]

sooooooooooo what temperature does it reach?

[@zoxwolf2133]

I have Pro 2. Beautiful machine❤

[@NigelMelanisticSmith]

To The Top is my favorite Viveport game

[@CasandChary]

Aye, I loved To The Top back in the days.

[@underflip2]

Overpriced mediocre effort from htc once again. Its a real shame how much they have fallen since the original vive which was my favorite headset for a long time.

[@KyleMorrison]

I think more focus on price would be good. This headset with base stations controllers and a wireless adapter is extremely expensive. I can't believe we are still in these price points. $800 for just this headset but a full package quest 2 is $300. It's really disappointing. It seems like oculus is the only company trying to make VR affordable.

[@misterdog7]

Pretty sure Zuckie will own the market for himself pretty soon, if the competition releases hardware that's only a bit better for more than double the price lol. I bought a quest 2 and couldn't be happier.

[@mcgeeb2885]

One HMD sells at a loss.

[@KyleMorrison]

@@mcgeeb2885 makes it's money off the app store. I don't understand why valve can't make a mobile version of steam to compete with Oculus and release a quest 2 competitor. People would buy that up so fast.

[@ge2719]

Oculus is dead. Call it what it is, facebook.

[@ge2719]

@@KyleMorrison yeah, valve needs to save us from facebook. But knowing how slowpy valve gets thigs done it'll be a decade before we get a standalone vr headset from them.

[@KoniBlank]

Every time i start steam VR i have different resolution on 100% SS... Thats Strange!

[@clamojoat8543]

I know this is old but its blurry because of in game settings. not all settings for games in VR work like they do in 2d mode

[@hughmac7423]

I have a G2, I find it uncomfortable because the face plate is too narrow, the IPD is similar and too small for me, playable but not perfectly in focus. I hate the Windows Mixed Reality software, it keeps creating virtual screens that I can't get too and when I open apps, it puts them in the virtual windows and I can't get to them, very frustrating, I have to keep disabling them.

[@pandax2411]

I suppose I can run this properly with a RTX 2080 super, and 32 Gb of ram, and an i9. I’m getting a 3090/3080ti anyway but I suppose I can play just fine with my 2080 super right?

[@ThomasTheG77]

Why tf are you running a 2080 with an i9 and 32gb of ram. Upgrade your gpu bro

[@ions7581]

Heated issue can be a big issue if you got eyes that easily dry out. Was really bad for me on the Index. After long sessions my eyes started to hurt. Thats a huge minus for this headset.

[@CasandChary]

Good point :(

[@BluelightGaming1]

I got it... Day 1 impression is I hate it. It looks blurry to the point where the OG vive actually looks more clear. Looking throigh this headset is like waking up and not cleaning your eyes... It has a hazy blur to it rhat seems to be caused by the lenses. I'm likely going to send mine back for a refund.

[@sonsolar]

I agree

[@danielharris3827]

what is Viveport?

[@michaeldeford1335]

Vive Pro 2 arrived a couple days ago and with the thinner face pad I love everything about it except the damn glare. It truly is rough and hard to deal with. It's far worse than my Index. I wrote to HTC, to see if they have any tips to resolve it or at least reduce it. No response yet. I am thankful to not have the buzzing in the headphones but, I am reading lots of users talking about it so it does seem to be some sort of somewhat common defect.

[@adrienburgerham9741]

hey how is it now and i am planning to buy one right now any tips?

[@masayoshsato7906]

What is t bgg e best vr headsets

[@andrealioce4341]

Very interesting. I'm prone to keep my Rift s until there's GPU shortage and I can't upgrade my rig, but the choices for an improvement over the Rift s are growing. Here the need for external base stations is the biggest drawback IMHO.

[@valrond]

That's a pretty good idea. Rift S is a great headset, I own one, and I still use it despite also owning a Quest 2, Index, Reverb and now the VP2. It is very comfortable, it has very nice visuals, good tracking for inside out, and you don't need a super computer to run it.

[@Lecrie]

The external base stations are really great for tracking.

[@andrealioce4341]

I play only flight simulators in VR so inside-out tracking is more than enough precise for my needs and a lot more versatile and easy to use. The hand controllers too are not so important since I prefer to use my stick, throttle and pedals.

[@valrond]

@@andrealioce4341 In you case, the best upgrade is the reverb g2, easily.

[@CasandChary]

Happy to hear you found the video interesting! :D I would say that it's a good idea to keep your Rift S for a while. Darn GPU shortage for sure.

[@eagler8196]

Need to get rid of fresnel lenses..sent the vive pro 2 back as the new lenses cannot be modified with the gear vr lenses like the original vive pro can be.

[@ronm6585]

Thanks Cas. Are you sure its just "water" in your cup? 😉

[@CasandChary]

No one will ever know XD

[@seng628]

Nice video review vive pro 2 VR lol

[@ameliabuns4058]

What was you pc specs again? The performance is less meaningful without specs :o Are you using max resolution? And 120?

[@CasandChary]

Showed my specs here: 5:13 also, yes, all tested on the best quality (max res and 120hz).

[@ameliabuns4058]

@@CasandChary oh the exact part I skipped thanks cas ^~^ I'm shocked and impressed you can run it like that at max res damn.....

[@L3THALXFOX]

Good headset but I'd rather have good lenses, and a high refreshrste then the resolution

[@MobileDecay]

Can you do a drop test, bend test, burn test, also see if the headset can withstand being run over by an suv? I need to know about this. 🤣

[@stevetb7777]

And dropping it in a fish tank.. happens to me all the time

[@MobileDecay]

@@stevetb7777 Yup. A shark attack is another concern of mine. ☺

[@REZZA2020]

Thank you :)

[@kristokirl]

What's the medieval fighting game ?

[@CIinbox]

Tales of Glory. It has a free demo. Lots of fun!

[@thesupergurlvr1341]

Hi First amazing!

[@CasandChary]

That was fast, hello!

[@thesupergurlvr1341]

@@CasandChary yep nice do you think this is better than the oculus quest 2??

[@skuffd-semicolon]

@@thesupergurlvr1341 obv better than quest 2, but you must consider the price difference. Our little quest 2 us unmatched in value. But the Vive pro 2 is definitely more capable and has far higher teaching accuracy and resolution. Both capable of 120hz, but only the quest 2 can do that wirelessly.

[@KyleMorrison]

@@thesupergurlvr1341 I would hope so! It's $1750 with the wireless adapter and even more if you want index controllers. Plus the gaming rig you need during a gpu shortage.

[@matenem8984]

I was first ;(

[@sandysand3097]

lol just spray the lense with anit glare solution they use for camera lenses : ) just wait a bit for it to dry properly

[@davidcole2337]

Honestly they missed the boat on this one. If you want to switch from Oculus to Vive you can expect to pay $1,399 which it is really hard to justify.

[@REZZA2020]

You cannot compare - Occulus is barely VR. PC VR is in a legue of its own.

[@tindustries]

Ben je nederlands ? Ik ook 😁😁

[@sknokaze]

About price thing, I have to say that depends on how rich is the manufacturer. Oculus have a rich sugar daddy call FB, Index have a rich dad called Valve. Check out Pimax, that is the normal price if you don't have a sugar daddy.

[@ggkris1308]

i have the original vive pro, htc knows how to make a headset

[@Diamondst]

Wow the KZbin unsubscribe glitch is real I was subscribed to you but it said I wasn’t now when I checked

[@REZZA2020]

Owners of Oculus mobile devices will soon discover they are dissatisfied with these far less than ideal devices and their limitations.

[@ariarst8977]

nice video

[@metalceesie219]

So didnt you have the terrible Pixel column banding?Alot off people have this now..But htc dont seems to care and dont reply to us on the vive forum.. When you move your head you see terrible scanlines..It wasnt there in the beginning!

[@seanbittner7136]

Valve Controllers are only available through scalpers. The G2 is broken out of box 'error 1-4'. I don't want a facebook toy. This Vive stuff may 'work' but I suspect I'll be underwhelmed for the high price. IDK yet cause I'm on backorder. So far this stuff is too complex/touchy and shoddy with very demanding hardware requirements to elicit enough acceptance and resultant AAA titles. Don't strain that 35 pin cable even a little.

[@TacticalAssaultOfficial]

HTC appears to be completely lost in their marketing and design. Overpriced, especially the wireless adapter which honestly looks goofy. Great review!

[@CasandChary]

Always thought it looked like I had antennas, like an alien lol

[@CookingwithMerlin]

no reason to upgrade. I ditched the index, cause visuals were garbage, and apparently so is the vive pro 2. I picked up Vive pro from BHphotoVideo still bran new, did the clear lens mod swap, and now VR is 100x better. For sound I'm going to do the pro audio strap, and that's it. Done. No other VR set will be worth buying for a while until they fix that stupid fresno lens glare, blur low sweet spot crap. I looked deeper into it all and it happens with those new lenses because they are cheap to make. That's why the vive pro has better visuals than two. Resolution isn't everything btw. Not all computer can handle it anyways.