Case 235: House of Horrors (Part 3)

[@HoundTor]

The level of evil that radiates from this case is unbelievable.

[@alliekattlopez5535]

This was absolutely the best coverage I've heard on this atrocious crime. Hats off to you. Excellent job. I sincerely mean this.

[@jwsuicides8095]

You're right. I'm I the UK and remember this sickening story. This is the most in depth account I've heard.

[@anneloving8405]

Yeah all kinds of horrible details I'm not sure I wanted to hear,I hope they never release Rose.

[@alliekattlopez5535]

​@@anneloving8405 No. Never.

[@sylvianapalma958]

​@@anneloving8405 I hope they don't release her, either. She's the physical embodiment of evil.

[@AngieAitch]

Thank you for covering this. Although I know it very well, being from the UK, you still managed to find things I didnt know, or remembered.

[@kylepaup]

That was one of the toughest stories of yours to get through. Whew.

[@areyoukiddingme6741]

How can people support a ped0- file? The only thing they deserve is💉🪦 Very sad story indeed, what a legacy these sick parents have left for their remaining children, vile. The healing journey is painful and never ending. I pray they find some semblance of normalcy, furthermore that they find peace. Thanks for another great narration, look forward to the next.

[@Catssandra13]

This entire series was excellent.

[@natalieh4354]

Thank you for covering this horrific evil story. The innocents side needs to be told.

[@maneckineckbeard1749]

Well said! We always hear Fred and Rose's story...but the stories that deserve to be heard are those of the victims whose voices were so viciously stolen.

[@SpicyTexan64]

How about respecting their privacy?

[@natalieh4354]

@@SpicyTexan64 if my daughter was a victim I'm not sure how I'd feel in regard to privacy... I am thinking in way of the girls who had disappeared,and their heartbroken families thought they had run away... This is the victim's way of shouting to the world .. I never voluntarily left you,this is what happened, don't think I left you all behind within a second thought...

[@AngelXO96]

Most disturbing true crime case I’ve ever heard, knowing that someone like Fred West was a golden child to his mom and loved very deeply by her and he turned out to be a monster is so surreal, my sympathies to all their victims and their families

[@chesspiece81]

I love starting my Saturday mornings with a Casefilw upload.

[@susandavidson1691]

Love your work @Casefile. Well done 👍

[@Outcry4truth]

Three long parts. It was hard, what these people did to their victims and the pain they caused many others is horrific. Fred, suicide, Rose, imprisoned, too easy a punishment for them.

[@blackkittens.]

Thankyou Casefile ☆

[@CL-we8tn]

Horrible, horrible tale. Boggles the mind that they got away with it for so many years.

[@buk390]

Perfect example of why you’re parents aren’t always right

[@gallofourteen116]

Well she wasn't wrong when she said she wasn't going to go to Cromwell street again.

[@maneckineckbeard1749]

It's absolutely unthinkable that there were literally countless massive red flags about this couple...and yet everyone from the police to social services to child welfare services to the neighbours seem to have just dropped the ball, repeatedly. If I had neighbours who I knew were watching blue movies with their children, if I was seeing swarms of flies and hearing odd thumps & bumps from their home, and if it was common knowledge that the mother of the house was doing sex work out of the home when the kids were there, I'd be beating down the doors of the police and child welfare! Plus, it sounds like nobody at the school bothered to look into all of poor Heather's bizarre behavior or the rumors about her, and when she suddenly vanished completely nobody raised an alarm... it's absolutely horrific! And to top it all off, there's the unbelievable fact that even before Heather's disappearance, several other young women (Shirley, Anna, Rena and the girls from Jordan's Brook Home) and a child known to be close to the Wests had mysteriously and permanently vanished...and still nobody seemed to raise a finger!! Plus, many of the disappearances happened AFTER Caroline Owens had reported the Wests to police, and long after Fred was arrested for SAing his sister and accused of statutory rape of Rose, so it's hardly like the couple wasn't on the police radar!! It's also simply unimaginable to me that both a mother (who was known to be abused) and child known to be involved in a vicious custody battle with Fred could simply vanish, and there was no investigation! It's like the lives of poor Rena and Charmaine didn't even count, and the tragedy of that is profoundly disturbing and sad. Their lives had value, along with all of the other victims...but you wouldn't know that from the way that all the disappearances were ignored. Fred truly was a Teflon man, and for the life of me I can't figure why! p.s. I'm quite literally shaking my head at hearing that Fred claimed he murdered one woman for calling Rose a slag. She was openly using their home as a brothel, FFS! But he found that particular term so offensive that he was driven to murder!? Unbelievable.

[@no_peace]

The community is complicit imo. This story is sickening on so menu levels. What those two did is so terrible but the fact that that community let them do it because they didn't think the victims mattered is almost as bad, it's horrifying

[@e3jen153]

Excellent series 😊

[@texastea5686]

I just don't understand why his kids still visited him in prison

[@elfersmary]

Been looking forward to.part 3

[@cedrics5241]

This is the sickest freaking family... damn. :/ Those poor children.

[@cdrwin]

Proper house of horrors, ppl still doing it today but not caught yet 🔥

[@margaretstewart2575]

Wow...I'm speechless.

[@danrobinson572]

Good 👍 podcast 😊

[@laineytheaussie]

This is easily the most harrowing case I've listened to so far.

[@warrenbut1455]

Heartbreaking have ask how the neighbours never heard anything well told as for the people selling there homes for coverage and people stealing stuff to and selling there stories to the gutter press disgusting

[@grahamdee1416]

I've never been fully convinced Rose ever killed anyone. I dont think murder was of particular interest to Rose. What she enjoyed was sexual sadomasochism. She understood the girls couldnt be allowed to leave afterwards, so I think she viewed their murder, which she left to Fred, as a kind of inevitability. As for Charmaine, I believe that was Fred, for 3 main reasons. The first is that on one hand you have a 17 year old girl who has never killed anyone, though she has a temper and can be cruel , and on the other hand you have a 30 year old man that certainly has killed, at least once. So the likelihood of being Charmaine's killer swings in his favour. Then, you have the date of her death and the date of Fred getting out of prison being quite close. Especially when you consider Charmaine death date is an approximation. And finally, there were small bones missing from Charmaines body, in true Fred West style. If she were Rosemarys victim I doubt he would take keep sakes; Charmaines body wasnt 'his work'. Even though Im not convinced she's a murderer, its completely right that she be serving a whole life sentence. She was complicit, she was essential to many of the kidnappings, she performed acts of torture, she beat and sexually abused the children, and she forced Anne Marie into prostitution.

[@grahamdee1416]

@@woodchuck2 what do you mean 'people'? The only murder that Rose possibly carried out alone was Charmaine.

[@HailToTheMeep]

Every step of the way, everyone looked away

[@naomiledger1374]

The more detail that's revealed here about what happened to these poor victims, the more unbearable it feels. In this time of such desensitisation due to graphic violence depicted in films, games and even books, the account of Fred & Rose West's depraved crimes would give any horror story a run for its money. I can only hope that some of the things done to the victims were done post mortem bc it's too disturbing to contemplate what those girls were feeling as they endured their miserable experiences and ultimate deaths. Utterly nightmareish and horrifying doesn't even come close to describing it. The last visit of some of the West children to their childhood home before its demolition felt particularly heartbreaking.

[@deniseconsultant1538]

True confessions. Been binging CASEFILE for a couple days. I’m legit. I have some free time. So why do I feel deliciously guilty? I feel like I’m getting away with something. 😜👍

[@tygoneeb9904]

I truly hope they do end up together, in hell.

[@sylvianapalma958]

Well, Fred is already in the second circle of hell (lust) and Rose will eventually join him once her time on this planet is over.

[@truthylucy7068]

Everyone in the neighborhood knew! They knew this couple weren't fit to be parents with all their lewd behavior! Yet, not one neighbor thought about those eight kids that lived with these monsters! Knowing they watched porn with their kids. As well as the comings & goings of men! I don't know how they could look at that house & not think of those kids! They lived there for over 20+ years. Didn't they think something was wrong when these kids were never allowed to play outside with the other kids? No friends coming & going from their home. Twenty plus years & not one neighbor thought to alert authorities or child services. They sure didn't think twice about cashing in on the publicity! All it takes is one person to speak up. We're supposed to protect children from these heinous crimes.

[@showwtim6367]

Brilliant case file once again. I’m sure I’m time parts 1,2,3 hours of horrors will surpass the record views you have for case 166 the family.

[@mickideg1837]

Wow just when you think he was done. House of horrors is right!

[@BrennaDraws]

Man I grew u not far from here, but it was my mum that grew up during teh time of the wests and even kinda knew the west family. Not directly but they were friends of a friend kinda thing. She said it was all very sureal when t all came out.

[@shadquirk607]

Everyone knew, everyone they came in contact with knew, and because of social issues, cowardice and ineptitude, they continued thier evilness unabated for decades.

[@agnescassar7604]

House of horror, my god those poor children, what a way to live,or die . May all the victims R.I.P. so so sad 😢😢😢😢😢😢

[@no_peace]

Where is Charmaine 😩

[@deborahpollard1997]

The sadest part of this. All them didn't have to die. Suffer the way they did. They let him go. All were so wrong and have blood on their hands. Not listening putting a child down. Pathetic sad

[@buk390]

I actually feel worse for the surviving kids. They still live thier pain everyday.

[@tonywilliams7152]

You've ruined the adverts with a documentary

[@chicagogyrl4846]

Ads every 3-5 minutes??! How is someone supposed to listen to this??! Unbelievable!!

[@verjanhamilton6287]

Pay to watch it without adds. Ungrateful much?🤔😉

[@tonywilliams7152]

​@@verjanhamilton6287you are a mug

[@PaulDoe79]

Just fast forward

[@kyledorsey3130]

That's a bit far fetched I listened to the whole story ads only came along 3 maybe 4 times.

[@corylatimer]

It’s a 2 hour long video with like 4 ads. Exaggerate much?

[@shadquirk607]

You know the Unity issue is probably not Riccitielo, right? Its actually the Paypal mafia, no joke. This is way bigger and deeper than just a douchebag ceo.

[@brendajstevens3719]

🙏🙏🙏🙏👏👏👏👏

[@scox7748]

Bleak. Grim. Sad.

[@Jimmy100series]

Stop the amount of adds!

[@CorinnaAtHome]

110 ?!? 😳

[@PaulRudd1941]

Woohoo! Time to listen to 2 hours of ads and maybe a little bit of a story!

[@SoulfoodPogo]

You don't have to. Just keep scrolling.

[@SpicyTexan64]

Just don't even listen. Go play candy crush.

[@lisasmith4296]

Well don’t be a tight ass and go pay on patreon

[@HaramXL]

KZbin premium all the way

[@PaulRudd1941]

@@HaramXL i have youtube premium chief, this guy just loads his podcasts full of advertisements. Unresolved doesn't do that, Trace Evidence, Monster's, Casual Criminalist, they all have adverts but this guy has 5 minutes of ads every 20 minutes! It's just plain greed at this point. And like I said before, there's lots of other, very good true crime channels that aren't as greedy. Fu*kc the Aussie.

[@Johnconno]

Priority Police Dispatch. In Liverpool? 😂🔥🏌