Case 580B Cylinder Failure Ends Stump Clearing

Well here's my fail of the week. First a bit of poorly executed back hoe work followed by a hydraulic blow out !! You don't get to see the shower of hydraulic fluid for two reasons...one, it was blowing up and to the rear of the dipper and two, I had to scramble to get it folded up and parked in a convenient position to begin the repairs. #Casebackhoe, #hydrauliccylinderfailure, #outdoors

[@gusswenson7811]

Good evening Wendell. Nothing like seat time and smiling while doing it… As a kid I played with all my Tonka toys and I grew up and have been able to play with the real thing and love doing it… Even got to drive fire trucks for 25 years 😁 God I have had fun and feel very lucky..😉😁 I am sure you will be able to rebuild the Cylinder and be right back at it in no time.. Then you can show those stumps who’s the boss👍 As always stay safe and always be kind. Cheers

[@tractorman4461]

Heck yeah Gus, if you're doing something you love to do it's almost like not working at all !! Time just goes by so fast every day. Its apart now and the replacement packing and seal kit is ordered....It'll be ready and running in no time. (I hope) LOL Have a wonderful week my friend. Good to see you over at Ed's live chat too.

[@DIYMyWay]

Well done Wendell! At least until the cylinder packing blew out. I agree with you that operating equipment- especially a backhoe is fun. I just love seat time on my backhoe. Looking forward to seeing you repair the cylinder.

[@tractorman4461]

These old hoes are quite a lot different from the new tight ones like yours. The wear in the bosses, pins and bushings make for shaky operation. Plus this one is a three lever control plus two foot pedals for swing and the bigger Ford 4500 is a 4 lever control. Yours and most of the new systems are two wobble stick control. I've never even used a two stick hoe. Cylinder repair coming soon Martin !!

[@TheTennesseeFrontier]

The talk about having a good time means a lot, and when you aren’t a skilled operator it sometimes makes it even more fun . . . especially if you have friends around! 😅 Have a great rest of your week! - Samuel

[@tractorman4461]

Thanks Samuel, I try to have a good time no matter what. When it comes to the backhoe, I usually begin getting a little smoother just about at the end of every job. LOL If its a bad job I still try to find the fun in it, even if its just laughing at the badness of it. Thanks for the visit and have a great weekend !!

[@RCAFpolarexpress]

Very nice view Sir ( tractor and driver included SIr ) ; ) That rear backhoe with two cylinders holding the main boom must be very strong 👌💪🧐 1957 Yes I call that a long seat time for sure. Ho boy one of these cylinder was due for service like we did Joe and I on his tractor Cheers !!!

[@tractorman4461]

Sometimes they come apart easy and other times they are near to impossible Dave !! How hard was Joe's loader cylinder to get apart and did they use spanner wrenches or were there the huge nuts on the packing gland...?? The Much Older Brother got his 60 year pin in 2017 from the Operators local union that his son and my son are both in.

[@Pennies_on_the_dollar]

Well now Mr Wendell, I have been digging and pushing soil for going on 30 years now, and I must say ...don't sell yourself short!! You did amazing , very strategic stump work there I must say!! Hickory's are the worst, second only to large poplars with 10 million roots 🤦🤦 But no matter, you said it RIGHT as long as you or we are having fun that's what it's all about!! I sit on an excavator all day and pass out orders, but there's nothing like getting to the farm and climbing on the little Allis for some much needed "fun time" 😉😉😁😁 Awesome job my friend, hate it got cut short but you are right with old Tractors, we just never know!! That will be a breeze fix for an ace mechanic like yourself, and you.will be back picking stumps in no time!! Looking fwd to seeing a little of the repairs maybe, if not going back together and the grin on your face getting back in the saddle!! Your commentary is spot on always, makes me smile no matter the day ..thank you sir for that!! Look fwd to more!! Btw, while I have you. I got myself all confused on a video I did where I said you were a part of it. I could have sworn it was you I beat out of and Mr Jans channel for the little steam engine....turns out it was Lloyd at the rusty glovebox🤦🤦🤦 I am losing it sure enough, either way I left the plug in regardless and just gonna add the correct way in 🤣🤣🤣🤦🤦 Thank you Mr Wendell!! 😁😁😁

[@tractorman4461]

Thanks for the nice words Nelson, but I'd be embarassed to even attempt to claim any degree of expertise on the controls. I get by ok here at home, but they'd throw rocks at me on the jobsites. True story. I got it apart with a little struggling and have the proper repair kit on order. I have a set of Case spanner wrenches for the various cylinders on the hoe. Because of the thin flanges on the gland Case used you just about HAVE to have the spanners. I dealt with a site called Broken Tractor and a fella named Chase. Between the dimensions I had in the parts manual and his tenacity, we finally found the $45 kit for it. Part numbers have changed a number of times in the last 49 years and the computers just CAN'T keep up....(-; I saw your comment on Jan's channel and got a chuckle out of it. Sometimes I have a little trouble keeping everyone I've met in order in my mind across the number of channels I follow and who I talk to. LOL

[@Pennies_on_the_dollar]

@@tractorman4461 Yes sir always, well I think you did great!! Man yeah, glad you were able to find the parts!! Yes sir things change for sure! I know seems the mind is the second thing to go, but I can't seem to remember what the first one is 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤦🤦🤦 Have a great day my friend!!

[@tractorman4461]

@@Pennies_on_the_dollar Hahahahahaha.....good one !! I can't remember either. (-; Don't work too hard today and stay cool if its hot down there Nelson.

[@Pennies_on_the_dollar]

@@tractorman4461 😁😁👍👍

[@gerlandkent6377]

[thank, you for youre great video.👍 ive. got case equipment service truck coming out to the farm to service and install a new replacement diesel fuel injection pump on my 1966, case 530 ck backhoe]👍

[@tractorman4461]

By now, you've got the repair done. I'm thinking it was a bit costly. I just had a 3 cylinder Lucas pump rebuilt. It cost a little over $500 to rebuild, but then the shop went through the 3 injectors at the same time.

[@tinkerinbruce6560]

Fun watching you too! You keep recording and I will keep watching!

[@tractorman4461]

Cool Bruce. I like your attitude my friend !!

[@jankotze1959]

It's all part of the fun of old equipment, it gives you more to do what you anticipated and on the same note it make sure you get a refresher course on working on them again lol, awesome video my friend

[@tractorman4461]

Well Jan, we can never expect something mechanical thats 49 years old run as hard, long and as smooth as a new one so failures are just a part of it. It's only bad if you are on a tight time line but I run a really loose ship because plans can change in an instant daily. We just roll with the punches, fix it and punch back !! Parts on order, coming soon.

[@gatorsworld]

That’s it with older machines.....you never know when the work is going to stop.....CHEERS

[@tractorman4461]

Hahahahaha....but on the other hand, can you imagine what a new full sized backhoe would set a fella back...?? I'd die of sticker shock !! LOL

[@Dave_Smith_1958]

Wendell I worked for a small town in South Jersey late 70’s to mid 80’s. We had a Case 580 CK. I loved to run that machine digging plowing snow what ever was needed. I sure wish I had one now.

[@tractorman4461]

The Much Older Brother's 580 is a '68 and this one is a '73, so you were running one very similar to one or the other Dave. I gotta get this thing back home soon because it's in dire need of some tlc from front to back.

[@mikeheilman2560]

Great job Wendell, just too bad the project didn't get completed because of that cylinder blowing. Back to the shop and get ready for another productive day. The way you were working those controls, you must have taught your much older brother well. The way you ended this video the bell must have been ringing. Take care and enjoy the rest of your week, just be safe....

[@tractorman4461]

Hahahaha....I get by behind the controls, but I can't hold a candle to my son, nephew and Much Older Brother !! Yep...you hit the nail on the head with the dinner bell Mike. LOL Have a great day my friend.

[@tectalabyss]

Hey my friend. I had to go through the same thing with my JD 300. Hoses, seal kit's,Etc. I couldn't find a case I could afford, The JD has been pretty good so far.Has always Liked,Shared. All my very best.

[@tractorman4461]

Thanks Bobby, for the comment my friend !! If they have a few years on 'em, a fella has GOT to spend a buck or two on maintenance from time to time. I bet that 300 JD is a pretty good tractor.

[@GPOutdoors]

LOL! I watched them out of order - now I get it. :)) Great repair T!

[@tractorman4461]

Hahahaha....there's a method behind the madness GP. Thank you my friend.

[@tomfillmore9710]

Good job bud you had the stump just about out when you get the cylinder fixed that will be it for the stump that is a beautiful piece of property take care have a great night

[@tractorman4461]

It sure is a GREEN piece of property Tom. Once we get the area ready for the little building it'll be looking a lot nicer too. But that's gonna take a little time if I keep having blow outs !! Actually that's the second cylinder I've had to work on in the 9 years I've had the machine and the first one was bad when I got it.

[@1lilfarm]

Playing with our toys in the dirt is always fun, no matter what age you are! Sure puts a damper on playtime when they break though. 😥😥😥

[@tractorman4461]

Hahahahahaha....I'm SURE you've been there many a time over the years !! LOL

[@1lilfarm]

@@tractorman4461 Definitely!!! LOL

[@mafarmtown2086]

That was indeed a bummer, for more than one reason. Couldn’t get the stumps out and also have a break down to contend with. Some days are like that, I guess. Now we have to wait to watch the stumps being removed!

[@tractorman4461]

Well, Rome wasn't built in a day...or so they say. But then again they didn't have hydraulics or maybe it coulda been..... The real fun will be when Tyler gets on the old rig to dig the footings. But there's a little to do before that happens.

[@deanbarr5740]

Man, what a root ball. Never realized hickory was like that. But, in my lifetime I've never seen mother nature blow one down either. I have seen Red Oaks toppled over but never a hickory. Looked like you were doing a fine job digging tm44 till your hydraulic packing went out.

[@tractorman4461]

Kinda like running track as a kid....well, I was winning while I was in front of everybody !! Doesn't take much of a failure to put you behind again. LOL But we don't really have a schedule anyway. Hickorys are the worst tree to trim and move brush by hand too. The branches seem to be made of springs and they snag on every thing. Not like oaks, ash and elm at all. We will be back in the saddle in no time Dean.

[@mikeadams2339]

Good video as usual need to get the Mrs in the seat so we can hear her for a bit! I mizz her!

[@tractorman4461]

Hahahaha....she said to tell you guys she's only got a 30 degree threshold, and that's outdoor temps between 50 and 80*F !! LOL She really enjoyed your comment Mike, but she did blush a little bit.

[@mikeadams2339]

Lol!

[@thecollectoronthecorner7061]

I wore my knees our running case backhoes with the foot swing. And the case has special hoses you cant get a hose made just anyplace. So I bought a JD with wobble stick controls and it has regular SAE hose ends. I use it to dig stumps and most times I dig the hole the stump came out of deeper. and put the stump back in the hole upside down. And our backhoe is a real POS. addicted to starting fluid. Power steering dont work. Most every cyl leaks because the rams are rusted and pitted. It used about the same amount of dollars worth of hyd fluid as dollars worth of diesel. Debbie named it old leaky! We only have about $2500 in it and it sure beats a shovel. We got a hyd steer front axle and intend to cobble that under it to fix the power steering. Yep hickory and scyamore and gum trees have deep tap roots.

[@tractorman4461]

Hahahaha....ol' Leaky. What a good name for the old 310 Randy !! I bolted two small angles on the foot pedals so my ankles don't have to be extended down so far to make the swing. Yeah, these hydraulic fittings are 37* JIC flares and ORB's...O-Ring Bosses. There's some weird ones on here for sure. This old Case dribbles here and there, but no substantial leaks until something blows. Most all the hoses are original from '73 when it was bought new by my cousin.

[@rickburris6164]

Those twin cylinders are great when they are working but they remind me of what a friend said about twin engine airplanes: "Two engines means your twice as likely to have an engine failure"

[@tractorman4461]

Hahahahaha....I guess your friend has a good point Rick. I don't know what the thoughts were behind the two vs one larger with the same capacity. But it is what it is. No biggie, I have the parts in route and the old one apart.

[@regsparkes6507]

Yeah, well, sometimes things like this sure do have a way of changing what you intend to w0rk on in a day. I hope you were able to repair that cylinder Wendell, and that you had, r can find, new seals/packing for the job. Aren't some stumps just a bear to haul out? Good luck with this!

[@tractorman4461]

Like I always say Reg.... Things change with a phone call. It just happens that today's change of plans was oil-induced. With some internet and phone time I was able to locate the parts for the 49 year old cylinder at a place called Broken Tractor. It took some digging (pardon the pun) but the parts man found the components I need. They are on the way. Yes, some of those stumps have a connection to Mother Earth that is really hard to break !!

[@regsparkes6507]

@@tractorman4461 Parts available,.. Good news! Mother Earth has a firm grip on a lot of things! :)

[@tractorman4461]

@@regsparkes6507 Yessir, even some people are 'grounded'...but in a good way. Especially guys from Newfoundland.....(-;

[@regsparkes6507]

@@tractorman4461 Now why wouldn't I give this a Thumbs Up? Hahahaha!

[@markfiorella7447]

i piece of cake for you to repair

[@tractorman4461]

Its not too big of a job to repack them Mark. The big issue with 49 year old components is first getting the parts to come apart THEN finding the correct parts is almost as hard sometimes. I got 'em coming though.

[@baroja5303]

lo importante es hacerlo aun que no sea operador deoficio

[@tractorman4461]

Estoy de acuerdo. Hago todo lo que puedo para hacer un trabajo sin ayuda. Pero cuando necesito ayuda, mi hijo siempre está ahí.