Case IH Axial Flow Combine vs John Deere 9000 Series Maximizer 1989

Рет қаралды 51,556

Күн бұрын

Пікірлер: 77

@paulpence8895 Жыл бұрын

LOL, this is the era I was farming in... 78 we switched from a 915 to New Holland for the twin rotors, seed business, made all the difference... We ran a TR70 then a TR85 but back to IH in 80,,, Dealer support... I farmed through to a 2588... Simple amazing machines!!!

@gordonliddy9418 3 ай бұрын

Grandpa and dad ran John Deere 7720s for awhile and then made the switch to the 1680. We stayed red ever since. Dealer support was amazing for quite a few years. I just wish it was still there like it used to be.

@ethanthopy1996 11 ай бұрын

I had this tape as a kid!

@tcod3137 5 ай бұрын

This guy makes a good case!

@kennyfett970 11 ай бұрын

Quite a few of these guys were in the Waverly, Iowa area. Customers of Smith International, INC.

@timnichols9015 10 ай бұрын

I bought a 1480 from there in 2005. Great guys, loved the 1480

@MidwestFarmToys 4 ай бұрын

My cousin and I affectionately called those JD combines "Minimizers" when they came out as a dig 😂

@eddiebrown856 5 ай бұрын

Saw many farmers go red but always went back green. Unless went to gleaner. The best

@JamesMcnichol-ss2oc 3 ай бұрын

Ya one man can change the concaves but it is a huge job for one guy. I’m glad I don’t grow wheat anymore and I don’t need to change them now

@SkyDavis100 2 ай бұрын

We put some aftermarket all crop concaves in our 2188. Only have to change some screens now. Takes 3 minutes max. I found you can get away without changing them though.

@mikedemott1720 5 ай бұрын

You can always tell who owns a Red Combine. Volunteer Corn speaks for itself

@Suck-Squeeze-Bang-Blow 4 ай бұрын

Because the corn didn't get ground up , like the green does lol

@johnzeit919 4 ай бұрын

Seems the combine is setup by the manufacturer...? Not feild conditions?? Duh

@timblack33 3 ай бұрын

I think the combine landscape would be very different today if deere had made the CTS a little better corn machine/ easier to change over for corn and went that route over STS. A CTS machine on a 9600 chassis with big HP would have been a Lexion/NH killer.

@zacharyvollmer9874 3 ай бұрын

That's what everyone in canada said but they would of wight over 30tons

@timblack33 3 ай бұрын

@@zacharyvollmer9874 I guess that sounded crazy back then. AF11 has got to be all over 60k

@zacharyvollmer9874 3 ай бұрын

@timblack33 I mean they could have made it work but didn't

@andyrutt Ай бұрын

The fact that Deere couldn’t wait for the patent to run out to put a rotor in their own combine should tell you all you need to know.

@bradkaberline5828 5 ай бұрын

The Gleason was a international product witg the Grey red and white colors Gleason lexeon but that's when case went a different direction from international

@Dale37 5 ай бұрын

Looking from the outside, I always see the rivalry between green & red guys. I know this applies to other examples, too, like Ford vs. Chevy. If one was better than the other, why are both companies still in business is my thought?

@JEDI-MAQUINAS 5 ай бұрын

👏👏🇧🇷

@jonfehr5950 5 ай бұрын

CIH Selling grain quality and that's it, nothing else was better. A good operator could dial in the deere to get close. CIH had them beat there but a lot of other things weren't. Both dealer lots had plenty of opposition color, i personality know of several guys all red with green machine and vise versa. It took some art and skill to dial in the JD, that was their issue, guys got frustrated in adverse conditions while the CIA performed better. As far as machine threshing capacity, CIA matched the 9600 16 years later with the 7000 series

@hammerslammer3006 5 ай бұрын

It was the spider web of belts and chains with pulleys everywhere for me.. dad ran deeres and got along with them pretty well.. just a nightmare to service or work on. Fell on love the early rotors for that reason..

@jameshill4900 3 ай бұрын

Agree but the lights did suck on the deeres thou. They never even compared to the old Masseys that had round ge halogens. The JD cab was definitely big step up vs the CIH.

@garywurz61 3 ай бұрын

what were you smoking them 1680 ran circles around them 9600 all day long

@CP-hz2dz 5 ай бұрын

Some of what they say is true but when they started bragging about their cab I almost puked. Deere is and always has been the leader for operator comfort in all lines of equipment

@kylekenan2321 5 ай бұрын

I thought the original idea of the machine was to maximize production as efficiently as possible, not a luxurious cruise.

@jameshill4900 3 ай бұрын

@@kylekenan2321You might not like luxury cab but I sure do especially after long hours.

@Jared-91 5 ай бұрын

Now let's compare to an equivalent GLEANER combine.

@jaredklug3502 6 ай бұрын

Deere ended up copying the the red machine so I’m think the red combine is the better one of the two

@gregkoenig9200 5 ай бұрын

Actually the new deeres resemble the twin rotor new holland

@379insk 6 ай бұрын

As soon as the sun set the Axial flow shut down......the 9600 soldiered on late into the night.

@garywurz61 5 ай бұрын

and all the grain was ground to powder and never found lol

@berniepfitzner487 5 ай бұрын

The rotary made up for it during the day

@MF175mp 4 ай бұрын

Why would that happen?

@berniepfitzner487 4 ай бұрын

@@MF175mp rotaries use a bit more hp in tough straw because the straw spends more time in the rotor.

@MF175mp 4 ай бұрын

@@berniepfitzner487 ok, we only have so little it's not gonna matter. Maybe 2-3 days of hard work for our freshly acquired 1480 in a year. Realistically more like 10 days of work with 3-4hr of combining each

@jlmmarshall5148 3 ай бұрын

The dreadful transmission on the axial flow. I was hired man for a farmer who had 2 1660s. Great in the field. Dangerous to road. Could jump out of gear roading them. I was so glad when he updated them

@froggienm71 9 ай бұрын

The only thing they don't want to admit is, the CASEIH could not combine wheat or small grains with weeds in the field. The conventional style of the deere could handle the weeds and work through those fields without plugging. Secondly, the deere can be set to clean the grain better than the CASEIH and throw less out the back of the machine. I should know because I ran a lot of 9600 combines from 92-97. The 9000 series had suspension seats comparable to the John Deere 8000 series tractors. The real truth is, neither combine had a major advantage over the other no matter what they say

@russianacorns8080 9 ай бұрын

Good point, however the gleaner r series takes the cake for chewing through weeds. IH for clean grain. Gleaner for organic/high weed content. John deere for parking in a hedgerow with a motor full of water.

@snowman5609 7 ай бұрын

You are so wrong we run iH since 1982 on the wheat run and over the years I have had countless number of johndeere guy tell me how they just can't get there depressed to do has good of job has our rotory are doing i have had more than one deere cutter tell me they get it close and then just don't look in the grain tank or on the ground so I ask why do you stay with the john deer they all said the same thing because deer had a better finance program that was the only reason they run john deer it had nothing to do with the jobs it did because they knew iH was better it because johndeere made it easier to buy them.

@froggienm71 7 ай бұрын

@@snowman5609 like I said at the end of my comments, no manufacturer had an advantage over the other until John Deere came out with the X9 1100. The AF11 was the first time CASEIH had a major advantage over John Deere. You may think otherwise, but unless you know the facts, your bias is just one sided

@Walt25202 5 ай бұрын

@@froggienm71

@joshpitts7256 5 ай бұрын

Now wait a minute.. I thought Johnny Pop's statement years ago the rotor combine was no good. And then here they came with one... Oh and there Two track tractor claim was Superior to the Qaudtrack tractor.. We see how that ended up.. Nothing runs like a Juan Deere when they copy everyone else.. ✌️

@robwar2288 5 ай бұрын

Deere has way better Straw Quality !!!!! 😂😂😂 the Bales would hold together as a 13 year old Grunt in the 90’S I can testify 😂😂😂😂 Red one had a Cooler sound!!! 😂

@jlkkauffman7942 5 ай бұрын

that's simply due to the design, rotary combines naturally broke the straw up more which is what we wanted because we don't bale the straw, however if you can get it baled out of a rotary machine the bales spread a lot nicer than the longer stem.

@robwar2288 5 ай бұрын

@@jlkkauffman7942 Yes I KNOW

@iTzKevinFTW 5 ай бұрын

What had a cooler sound the engine?

@zacharyvollmer9874 3 ай бұрын

You know what i find funny case never did one on conpareing a John deere CTS

@Freefarmer533 5 ай бұрын

Never seen a deere with a snapped rear axle!!

@ronaldfruechte6455 5 ай бұрын

Go to a salvage yard they have a demand for 6620 and 9400 and 9500 if the rear axle is still in tact

@joshualklein 4 ай бұрын

Neighbor had a case ih back in the day with a snapped axle. They switched to Deere after that

@MF175mp 4 ай бұрын

@@joshualklein The axle is not an issue to repair. It's the overly complicated internals when/if something goes wrong with them. Many brands have problems with straw walker bearings for example, not familiar with deere though. Also It's posssible to wreck the walkers if the clogging alarm doesn't work, I saw one small Deere that had done that a couple years back. The fuse was blown or there was a bad contact so the alarm didn't sound, even though It's a NC circuit that should be pretty good since it makes the alarm go off when the connection fails instead of just not working...

@CliftonLehman 5 ай бұрын

I've worked on my combine and one of these and I probably would rather work on my jd

@ethanlee9441 4 ай бұрын

In otherwords bigger is never better

@RobertDavidson-xm1rl 5 ай бұрын

It interesting that deer said they would not come out with a rotor combine . We asked the deer dealer when red came out with there rotor. I would not buy a deer