Casio's Flawed Piano Action: Update PX-S3000 PX-S1000

[@ThePianoforever]

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[@pestoriusj]

Concept: a piece composed explicitly for the Casio PX-S3000, that takes advantage of this flaw

[@hugeshows]

Chop sticks?

[@marianneoelund2940]

Chopin Op. 10 No. 5 etude in Gb major, known as the "black keys" etude as the right hand plays exclusively on black keys with only one exception.

[@Mattmanutube]

👍👍👍👍👍👍50 years of playing classical piano ... I’m 100% percent in agreement with your methodology and conclusions ... Please keep up the good work.

[@SamTahbou]

@@slapmyfunkybass I don't think you need to take his comments as "only classical" but rather "specifically classical" so he is not excluding all else, he just finds that with classical music in particular this would be an issue for him. I wouldn't take it as a dis on any other music, he's not even comparing styles of music. And there is the personal element in there too. In that, for him, he had issues with phrasing in classical pieces on this instrument, because of the difference in key weights. That is where it all ends as far as the info he's imparting and his criticism of the tool. Nothing else needs be inferred or arrived at.

[@TheIvoryman]

S Tahboub I completely agree with you. James is mainly a classical pianist. And based on the the very subtle nuances of touch required for classical pieces, he simply noticed this. I don’t feel he was singling out classical pianists as the only people who this would be a critical issue to.

[@anansiackhasone3428]

Me too

[@dd-bw9pk]

Never buy this piano!!!!! My arm is very sick!!!!!! I”m a amatua piano womon. But i have a big big problem during playing this piano

[@essennagerry]

Hello Mattmanutube :) I would very much appreciate your advice. Can you help me? I want to buy a digital piano with very similar action as a nice acoustic piano. Do you know any such digital pianos? I don't need anything fancy, just a realistic piano sound and good action, similar to a nice acoustic piano.

[@PlayTheMind]

Excellent video, I especially love how objective, calm, and transparent you are when giving feedback -- be it about instruments or comments in this section. Cheers!

[@JosephAkins]

It's great to see someone review the playability of these instruments. Not just the bells and whistles.

[@kevinchambers2327]

James, you have formed this channel so well keep it up and thanks for honest reviews❤️

[@18thVariation]

I was randomly tinkering around on my student's new Casio and was startled by the loudness of the black keys. This makes a lot of sense now. You'd need a crazy amount of control in order to play at roughly equivalent volume.

[@dbwastooshort]

ive seen like 21 of these videos, by you, and i find it amazing that you, someone who was able to get the keyboard, play it, find a flaw and share it, had to "argue" the point. Amazing

[@richardlazenby6119]

Well presented and argued. If this was a court case, you would have won the case for your client. I tested the S1000. I would have bought one but I just could not get around the feel that I had with the keys. Great job. Keep up the good work!

[@firasalatiyat866]

Not sure what skeptics are denying! The dude stated earlier and now supports it with actual weights to prove what he experienced. It is kind of surprising how a venerable maker like Casio denies the problem!

[@Lola_Santoro]

And, Casio's response even includes the admission that some sacrifice is made in portable electronic pianos. So, they know it's there, they just don't like being exposed.

[@clarkiapulchella8883]

Here is my experience with the PSX-1000. I bought it in early february (lots of positive reviews, quite affordable, compact, it felt perfect for me to start learning classical piano). I was (and still am..) a TOTAL beginner, but when I started playing with it, I INSTANTLY felt that the black keys were lighter..!! I didn't even know black keys were supposed to feel the same way as white keys, I figured they were smaller so it was normal... So here is my question : could you please explain to me how the f*** is it that there are dozens of reviews on youtube of this piano, and NOBODY tells ANYTHING about this black keys weighting problem...???? This feels almost like being robbed. The positive side of this story is that we actually now have a rigorous way to assess which channels on youtube provide bullshit reviews and which don't. Thank you for your honest video.

[@leonardonguyen4338]

Prob becuz most of the review come from ppl trying to sell and and something they just try it not long enough to recognize the problem. I also got frustrated with some of the very basic problem but took too long to find an answer either on youtube or google.

[@yyr995]

If we had more honest reviewers,then we believe that companies would be forced to put out better quality products . Bravo for James😊😊😊😊

[@davidwolkovitz4284]

Damn! I was about to buy this piano. Even tho I'm a begginer I'd still rather play on a piano that doesn't has that flaw.

[@SamTahbou]

Thank you for taking the time to professionally and objectively discuss your comments about this instrument. This was very informative.

[@27funkyes]

This really opens a can of worms for some reviewers. Another popular reviewer says, "The piano action is just phenomenal." Of course he sells this piano on his website. Can we really trust him? Maybe he just couldn't tell the difference, or maybe he just didn't tell. My new piano review hero is you James. For such a young guy, you have just won the respect of many of us. Stay true and call it the way you see it. I'm happy I discovered your channel.

[@ThePianoforever]

Thank you.

[@steverolfeca]

I commented on your previous video, that a friend improved his sound by stepping up to the Privia. It has occurred to me that he is coming from a synth background. Thank you- I have learned a valuable lesson about the keybeds on digital boards VS “real” acoustic pianos.

[@Bobo]

I had the px-s1000 for a while and agree to what you are saying. I’m very much a beginner player and my biggest problem with this action was how heavy it got between the black keys near the fall board. The good thing with this piano is how compact it is and this makes it great for moving it around. But I got rid of it and bought a Yamaha p-5151 and could not be happier with it :)

[@lovingpeace9715]

As a guitarist with interest in playing keyboards I have really enjoyed your channel, your playing talent and your willingness to share your knowledge is appreciated.

[@GrotrianSeiler]

Good for you, James! I hope people listen to what you’ve said here all the way through. You couldn’t have put it more diplomatically. Very fair critique/explanation. As a technician who lives this stuff day in and day out, I listen to your. Ideas from a different perspective. And I am impressed you learned so much in such a short time. I think you’re videos have great value shedding light on all things keyboard. Best of luck.

[@Sunnyacres55]

I love your reviews and your honesty. I like that you are keeping your channel a friendly one as social media can be so cruel. Keep up the excellent work... now I'll go practice my scales from your scale videos.

[@speedguitardemon]

I really appreciate your review because no one mentioned anything about this, absolutely no one. I just started leaning piano and unfortunately I bought a Casio, I didn't know how a true piano should feel like but now I know, thank very much.

[@brviking]

Loved to see your cientific way to prove your feel. Really. And I would like to see similar test on previous line of Privia keyboards, specially the x60 (160, 360, 560). They are cheap and easy to find in Brazil. Thanks for the wonderful job you are making. As a beginner, you helped me to avoid the mistake to buy a digital piano that would make my evolution harder - without noticing the key differences!

[@KM-xf1ft]

Excellent demonstration, thanks

[@d.singler-kron9034]

James, I am an organist and am starting to enjoy your videos more and more. All of a sudden you've become grown up. You are logically defending what you know to be true and even showing us why. Good job. The pipe organ is quite the machine, as you know well. The room becomes the sounding board and the responsibilities- especially to Bach can overwhelm. I am impressed by the way you get it regarding acoustic and digital. Being classically trained is a tremendous blessing, but it can be very painful when people don't understand the fine tuning of the brain that results. The way that you are kind to all musicians is going to keep you relevant.

[@mimoochodom2684]

Thanks James. That's a major flaw. I was wondering why the price was too good to be true. And furthermore, if anyone would know anything about pianos, it's this man.

[@fabiotrevisan8922]

I don't often post comments on youtube, but I see a case here where you deserve support for your conclusions. 1st and above all, you nailed it with the weighting method... Regardless the fact any digital piano is a compromise, the fact you noticed the issue on this model and not on other brands and models at the same price tag, definitely tells something, and the weights more than prove this point. 2nd, it might be true that muscle memory of a player may not be the same as of another, so the amount that you felt the issue might be less to other people, but it might be more too. The point being that, not being able to satisfy everyone's perceptions or muscle memory, one as a manufacturer must try to level up to some standard, and the ultimate standard is to try to mimic an acoustic piano, so your point on using the weights is flawless. It would be fair though to Casio and to yourself as a commenter, if you can do the same weighing trial to other digital pianos of the same price tag as this one, to prove to the audiences and to yourself the weights are indeed remarkably different on this one in comparison to the others... I think this would settle the argument altogether. 3rd and final... Casio is a major contender... they're not some nobody that could claim they weren't able to level up to the standards of their competitors, for products they're offering to the same niche, for whatever reason. So, one must come to the conclusion they made the design choices they did to make this instrument remarkably more compact than others... but when they do so, (if) all other things being equal, you'd really get a leverage... but if one chose to compromise the playability just to make it smaller and want to market the product at the same price tag, and pretend all other things are equal, when they aren't in fact, then they're trying to fool their customers. Now, taking from your next video where you show the innards of the Casio action on this keyboard, one can see there hasn't been so much of an effort (if any) to compensate the ill effects of the shorter lever, apart from doing the obvious of just making the weight lighter (which is n approach that could be excused if, either this keyboard would be cheaper than the competition, or if the competition, all had the same irks, which doesn't seem to be the case.

[@lostinbeauty7129]

So, so interesting, James. Bravo! You proved your point scientifically, and without rancour. You have built a terrific channel here, and your comment section is always a pleasure to read - like-minded individuals sharing their love for, and interest in, music; and specifically keyboards. Keep doing what you're doing.

[@MrBlakeLee]

Thank you for your input and honest review Mr. Pogorelic

[@ThePianoforever]

Any time!

[@georgeray3492]

Well done. Gravity has no brand bias. Agree with some of the other comments- would be interested in Casio's response. This could be a manufacturing glitch that took someone with a highly developed touch to notice. Glad to see your note about some of the other brands you also tested.

[@Francois15031967]

The very reason Casio can't admit the truth is that this product got into production and that they can't easily fix the issue. It's neither the first nor the last company to act this way in a similar situation (cough cough Apple cough cough).

[@bikkies]

That action must feel maddening, like playing two different keyboards in one.

[@LeNoLi.]

If you are precise with your dynamics, then the black keys must sound slightly louder.

[@colbalt95]

@@LeNoLi. if they don't have a velocity curve you are correct it might depend on how many velocity levels the piano is sampled in

[@albertbatfinder5240]

I want to test the keys on my next piano using this method, but I can’t afford the fancy weight thing. However, as a duck keeper, I have learnt that newly born ducklings weigh about 40 grams and increase to 100 grams during the first week. So if I visit a piano showroom with a shoebox full of ducklings each day for a week, I should be able to calibrate any difference between the black keys and the white. Do you see any problem with my method?

[@ThePianoforever]

None!

[@gbremoved4680]

See also: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZ3YZpJrhMlqjbs

[@b9y]

If a the key weighs more than the duck, is it a witch?

[@jeffw1267]

You can buy that adjustable key weight on eBay for $35. Surely ducklings cost more than that.

[@Livesinashack]

@@b9y Beat me to it! 😂

[@josephperry4053]

James - you are doing a great, honest, and objective job on your channel. Keep up the good work.

[@emmaatkinson4334]

A real piano key action weighs a lot, needs space in the enclosure, and needs to be regulated like a normal acoustic piano. I have an MP11SE, it is double the weight of a stage piano a solo artist might take to gigs. Digital piano makers design a keyboard that tries to reproduce the feel of a real piano action but has to do that within what I now think are quite severe constraints of half the weight, cheap to make, feel almost like a real piano action, stable enough to avoid tuning. I think that's a hard engineering problem. The issue we have is the way the marketing misleads. So, users that want to become better piano players need reviewers to evaluate the keyboard action and communicate that to the potential buyers in their audience. I would have liked to know the range of exam grades I could take before having to get a better design. I was told my Yamaha CLP535 would be good enough to get me to grade 6. I found it limiting/difficult when doing Grade 4 pieces and exercises. But I intend to do Grade 8 eventually, so it made sense to upgrade when I did in the interests of developing good technique and not having to undo learning. If my goal was Grade 5 I would have stuck with the CLP535 and accept the shortcomings as a coat effective design compromise. When I bought the MP11SE, I tried lots of good stage pianos and a few upright acoustics. I knew what I wanted by then. Research into what to look for and trying keyboards before buying is critical ... in addition to research through forensic reviews such as yours

[@dk2428]

You're absolutely right. I've had the chance to try out the MP11 years ago...IMHO it's in a class of its own. Both in sound and quality.I wonder how the MP7SE compares to it.

[@yyr995]

Emma,We believe that the Kawai mp11se has the best piano key action on the market and the sound is quite nice. We believe that you made a "grand" choice. Keep on sharing your beautiful gift with the world and never cease to share your gift from from our Great Creator to you to all who you will Bless. 😊😊😊😊

[@kerryl1528]

Thanks for your reviews and honest opinion. I can imagine if somebody spends approx. $1000. cdn. and thought that they may have made a mistake, they may get defensive. I noticed in your video at the NAMM show when the rep was doing the demo, he mentioned that the action was controlled with a combination of hardware and software, so there may be a fix for this with a software/firmware update. Thanks and looking forward to good honest reviews.

[@michaelbonnar7258]

Well found, continue your work to ensure keyboard players acquire exactly what they need for all genres of music.

[@latingroove7804]

awesome technical test to prove a flaw that will help buyers make a smarter purchase choice. Appreciated.

[@algarvemike]

A great video. You have proved that you are the only honest, independent digital piano reviewer on KZbin. I have subscribed and will listen to your opinions intently. You’ve prevented me buying this piano, and being annoyed by its action. I’ve seen many positive reviews of it, and these reviewers will no longer be followed by me. Thanks for a great video. Keep up the great work. I’d love to see you compare 88 key weighted midi controllers. I’m considering using iPad,or a MacBook as a live midi sound source.

[@tjfSIM]

You don't have anything to prove James. Always an informed, detailed and professional review.

[@MichaelRossMurphy]

Thanks for bringing this to light in an empirical way. It would be interesting to use graduated weights to trigger the keys while monitoring the MIDI key velocities...

[@springwaltzly]

Thanks for giving an honest and evidence-based review. Fortunately, the sales rep at my local store was well-informed and told me that the keys of this casio are lighter. While thinking about it, came across your video which triangulated with her advice. Really appreciate 🙏. Thank you.

[@davecasler]

Excellent video, scientific approach to proving your point. Well done!

[@nigelcarren]

I am so happy that I didn't think of doing this weight-test with all my keyboards in the past, because my OCD would mean that I am the sort of person who would have kept a 'Keyboard-Weight ledger', and I wouldn't stop there. I would have spent weeks, after first comparing each keyboard's strike-speed by examining my auto-quantise rate would then have started honing the key-weight with slivers of brass and spring-tension, to find MY optimum mother-keyboard. Thank you once again for causing me to pause for thought. These videos are certainly 'Biscuit-Worthy'.

[@HobbyHillsVideos]

I am learning more and more about pianos from you than any other place on the internet. I don't even own a piano but maybe one day.............. Right now I just have my digital keyboard. What blew me away is that you are only 19 and act much more mature and knowledgeable than those who have 25+ years experience with pianos both as technicians and players.

[@michal234486]

Can you make such an experiment for some other piano, Yamaha or whatever?

[@schelsullivan]

I'm just some rock and roller on a budget. But I greatly appreciate the analysis of the action on this keyboard. I've recently purchased two very very inexpensive midi controllers that I'm thinking about returning. It's good to know exactly where the line is in each of these budget products. Please review more

[@notinterested8452]

Amazing to see Casio advertising on these videos.

[@MrPmlai]

Thank you for your review. As a beginner, I don’t have enough knowledge to choose a good piano. I almost bought this PX-S1000 because of its size, weight and those good comment on KZbin. Finally I bought a Roland FP-30 after watching your review. No one in KZbin talking about this issue. Since PX-S1000 is a entry level piano, many beginners like me may buy this to learn piano. It may causes to build up wrong skill and technique which is really bad to learn wrong skill at the initial state. Please keep what you have done and I will keep following your channel. Thanks, James.

[@sirnigelcogs]

Whether it's pianos or microphones or whatever else, I'm always surprised when companies release products that have issues that they had to have known about through a simple QA process but decide to release them anyhow.

[@TruePiano1]

Yes that is absolutely important James. And I did see your previous Review and never questioned your judgment. I could even hear the discrepancy in the timing of the white and black keys and I knew myself that this was an issue right away. So don’t fret about criticisms as they are wrong and you are right. Thanks for all your instructive and comprehensive reviews!

[@sinsunjajpdfja8293]

i really started to like ur videos. at first i genuinely needed advice because i am a phd student and poor so i wanted to make most of my 1200-1300 cad budget so i needed to hear comparisons of pros but now it became a thing i just open and watch them even if i dont understand or will never be able to afford the stuff u feature

[@binkyrcd]

i always look forward to the high quality content of your channel.

[@Sundance_]

I am a starter searching a piano, I had no idea about this weight issue. Thank you!

[@vertigo0105]

I am not a classical pianist, but I can tell you there is more than enough dynamics in touch & use of black keys in Journey's 'Faithfully' & 'Open Arms' that would make those songs unplayable on the PX-S3000 PX-S1000's keybeds as they currently measure. Great job!

[@Grymyrk]

I was about to go out and buy a PX-S1000, should I reconsider?

[@michaelleggieri7135]

I been searching for a new stage piano for two years I've decided on a Yamaha before I purchase I will test the keys with a weight. Thank you

[@AJSALink]

I was literally buying this piano and than I saw your video.... damn this piano is soooo beautiful...

[@zwz.zdenek]

Luckily, there's plenty of good competition to Casio in this segment.

[@nixonthuo808]

@@zwz.zdenek whats your recommendation for this price range?

[@savvymarie7882]

already ordered it lol and saw this video

[@bmoneygeez]

Great channel Homie, for someone your age you do a really great job with your videos! Thanks again

[@TheIvoryman]

The proof is in the pudding. Good follow up, James. The weights prove your point regarding discrepancies between the black and white keys weighting issue.

[@New_Zealand_Music]

Excellent explanation, thank you for be so thorough. I haven't seen anyway apply such an excellent demonstration for helping people to understand. Thank you kindly.

[@ThePianoforever]

Glad it was helpful!

[@FulvioGa]

Thank you, very useful information. Unfortunately I already bought the Casio PX-S1000 a year ago, fortunately I have not played it almost at all, because I did not have the time to do that.

[@korolario]

It's really making a difference that you do this, because too much time musical instrument industries (in particular piano/keyboard ones) have built very poor instruments that we had to play, I totally agree the science fact you're making here, not talking not bluffing, just the TRUTH of a pretty simple PROOF. I'm tired of millionaire brands flooding the market with digital pianos that feels like garbage compared to the chepeast (even unknown) acustic pianos. You've made a point here and really we all have tons of stories to tell on different angles of these instruments, flaws everywhere for decades they've ignored what is to lose inspiration while trying to find your inner music at your fingers. Justice man. Keep up the work for US the musicians.

[@sundancer7381]

Really appreciate the additional info. Please keep up the good work.

[@johnp.1460]

I really appreciate this video, because you very capably demonstrated that facts backed by data matter; shade for the sake of shade, does not. Please keep up the great work on your channel. I watch and enjoy every video. By the way, as a classically trained pianist, that action would drive me nuts.

[@Frank-in-NY]

Again, thanks for this info. You did the right thing pointing the flaw out, and not in a derogatory way. Look forward to your reviews...I really want to know what you think of the new Roland RD-88, it's available this month.

[@Vlican]

good job proving your point! lots of other reviewers don't have classical training and it shows.

[@Jay__C]

Nearly bought one of these! Thank you for the warming. 🙂👍🏼

[@JohnSmith-gn5xu]

Really looking forward to your review of the PXS1100 when you are able to get your hands on one!

[@ThePianoforever]

There's no need. According to Casio's website, the old PX-S1000 and the new PX-S1100 use the same exact action. Sounds like it's just the same old thing with a new name. 🙄🤣

[@michaeldillon4070]

Nicely proven James … well done. I like your critiques. very much.

[@jamchiell]

Excellent demonstration. Very scientific and rigorous.

[@kevinr.3542]

This was part of Casio's collaboration with The Black Keys for a signature seriea. They insisted that the Black Keys

[@Compasscard]

You nailed it, I'm going to test my Kawai CA also :)

[@JoseVGavila]

Thanks for following up the previous video, this is what I asked for there, as lots of people wanted to have a figure on the weight difference you had found

[@ThePianoforever]

Thank you for the inspiration for this video, it was because of your original comment that I made this video. My followers sometimes have the best ideas!

[@JoseVGavila]

@@ThePianoforever Wow, that is amazing, thanks for letting me know. I am glad to contribute to your channel. I am just an old beginner (only two years on playing piano) but your channel inspires me to continue learning. Thanks!

[@canadiansoul9401]

YOU DID A GREAT JOB MAN :) Congratulations from Brazil ;)

[@pc2nite]

Thank you. I wish more keyboard reviewers would do these simple measurements. You can’t judge by them completely but at least they are reasonably objective.

[@shoman956]

Dude your 19?!?! Your awesome at piano. I just started playing a little less than a year ago and I'm 20 right now. I'm definitely a little jealous and wish I started playing earlier, but I only got into rock keyboard, organ, jazz and other piano driven music recently. Oh well...

[@simonsmith7755]

Very interesting. I picked up a 3000 a couple of months ago and immediately noticed inconsistent weighting around the e0 region (much lighter compared to the rest of the keys). Got in touch with Casio and sent a few pics (taped penny coins into a stack as didn’t even know these weights existed) to show the issue. I know it’s not the same issue but the said I should return. Which I didn’t - too much trouble to transport an 88 not knowing if I’d get the same again and tbh, decided I could live with it. Interesting to know if any other owners have the same thing going on?

[@esongsore]

Already having issues with my keys. The C#3 has lost its touch responsiveness. So even when I play it softly, it sounds at maximum volume. E5 sounds very clicky

[@nasiranwar9776]

I'm so glad you posted this. I'm in the market for a digital piano and was set to buy one of these.

[@nigelcnash]

Thank you for honest review. I chose a Yamaha P515 purely on the action. Bear in mind I am just starting on piano ( you have to use BOTH hands!!!), but at first blush the Yamaha felt right in the same way that the Roland p90 and lesser Yamaha’s did not.

[@rikspector]

James, Way to go, You made a very important point . Have you contacted Casio about the problem, perhaps they are unaware of it. They may appreciate knowing. Cheers, Rik Spector

[@WarrenPostma]

It's A CASIO. It's not a professional class instrument. I don't think Casio cares. Maybe if this was a $5K to $10K Kawaii, they would care.

[@liamstrain]

@@WarrenPostmathey do make some professional stage pianos. I expect they would care.

[@TheIvoryman]

Warren Postma I disagree with your assessment of Casio not caring about the products they produce. Casio, generally, has always produced decent quality products. In recent years they are showing real intent to compete favorably with the mainstream professional instrument providers. They definitely want a piece of the pie in the professional products category. But, this discrepancy in the black to white key weighting definitely is an unfortunate oversight, IMO.

[@graghamstaylor2341]

Warren Postma, I gig a Casio PX 560 & the action is excellent , I believe they have taken a backward step with this obsession with producing the slimmest Digital Piano ,as the shorter keys have obviously compromised on the fulcrum point. I have also found the PX-S 3000/1000 difficult to press the notes, compared to earlier Privias, when I 'slide' my hand in towards the fulcrum point . A great shame as the sound chip is a definite improvement !

[@bubffm]

Frederick Spector If Casio is unaware of this, they better stop building keyboards straight away.

[@DanielEvansMusic]

Great video. More reviewers need to cover these topics.

[@malanhemal6574]

Please , do the same test for other casio digital pianos as well,such as Casio cdp s100. Because you mentioned about casio products in general. Thankyou James , I really appreciate your effort and I like your content.

[@Teth47]

I played on a rickety-ass piano once that had a section where the keys were just... Softer. The row of keys was perfectly level but that softness made it feel like they dipped into a well, it was so weird. This thing must be so uncomfortable to play on.

[@makerealitygreatagain8809]

Thank you for this follow up. I think it was necessary. TBH I was pressing the black and white keys all over the keyboard and I really couldn't tell the difference... They do feel as if they're the same weight, but I suspect that just comes down to me not having a way to effectively measure them the way you did and know instinctively by touch alone. I was going to keep it... now I feel like every time I'd see it now, it would bother me to know I practicing on a keyboard which hasn't been designed to play like a real balanced keyboard/piano should. (Update, after I tested mine) I just used two AA batteries standing up. The black keys go right down and the white only barely moves down slightly. That's no lemon casio he has, mine is behaving in the same way. Don't believe me? try it yourselves.

[@dsdmusicchannel]

Really curious if it's the same hammer action as the one on the Casio CDP S350... I'll go to check in the shop when it will be safe.

[@Mobiluks]

I think it`s not, tested it(not with gram weights) in a store, just my own feeling. The black keys felt more resistend on the cdp s.

[@arr1009]

Great explanation! Thanks for share it! Exactly as you say at the beggining, this could be an issue of PX´s, I made the same test on a Privia PX770 and the weight of the black keys are slightly heavier than the white keys, the opposite result but anyway could be an issue. Thanks again for share it!

[@KenIn_NH]

Has Casio attempted to address this issue at all? Given the length of time this instrument has been on the market I would expect some sort of response or are they just waiting for the next model rease to ..hopefully..address?

[@misternewoutlook5437]

If I had a skill level above intermediate, I might notice this on my digital piano. Either way, I'm nowhere near that level of discernment. My Casio CDP 220R, however does allow for creating mood very well for someone at my level. That said, it's good to be aware of this and valuable info down the road when deciding to buy a new digital piano.

[@mobiousm8889]

Thank you so much for making this!!

[@moldenburg909]

It’s a pity you have to proof what you said. I believe you also without the proof. You got the experience. It is terrible when a action isn’t balanced and certain if you play something, like some classic pieces, which requires light playing and complicated movements. Anyway you know better what I mean then I can explain. I talked to someone who got this casio and he never got a problem with it. But after mentioned it and let him try a ‘Silent’ piece he was stunned. You’re right. But he never noticed. The other thing I agree with is that you keep your channel clean and nice. It is a pity that you have to remove some reviews. It shouldn’t be necessary. But don’t let it crawl under your skin. Thank you for sharing.

[@somemango9587]

Why am I watching this 3 AM in the morning?

[@HeCoversMe]

I just read your comment and looked at the clock 3:04 AM hahaha

[@FindLiberty]

Because there's 13 grams difference between playing the black versus white keys.

[@alexkatsaros6180]

Excellent demo! Again thankyou for this critical analysis. I'm going with a Kawai ES8!

[@ThePianoforever]

I reviewed that one and was impressed for the price.

[@josephguida5432]

I won’t even think about purchasing a new piano or keyboard unless it gets your stamp of approval. Good looking out.

[@SaccoBelmonte]

When it comes to key velocity, this flaw will make all the black keys to sound louder. Wich is something you definitely don't want.

[@TheA90plyr]

Never thought of it from that perspective enlightening indeed. Thank you

[@KKIcons]

I have played Bach about 15 years on a Casio WK 200.(Probably a total of 35 years of learning in total.) I have mobility issues like pinched nerve, so my dream of getting a better keyboard has had to change. Now I need to save up to replace this with the lightest action possible. Some kind of escapement feature would be great to play around with, but I am not sure if I can afford one like that, and maybe only very weighted keyboards have that? It would be a pain, but I guess I could get a cheaper controller and hook it up to a DAW if it has the right kind of action. I love to be able to turn on the keyboard and practice, and also it is convenient to choose a clavichord or organ sound depending on the kind of music I am working on. This older Casio doesn't have much sustain, and I have a standing set-up where the kind of subtle pedal use I would need is impractical. So more sustain without adding more reverb? Is that possible? I would appreciate any recs someone might have.

[@Tocabocalife0123]

This is great info. Thanks and keep up the good reviews.

[@mr.achmed.x]

Hi James, thanks for doing this. May you also extend such experiments to the likes of Casio CDP series and Roland FP series, will very much appreciates your incredibly good effort. Thanks in advance! 👍🏿😎 #godbless

[@josephj6521]

Fantastic analysis! Well done. 👍

[@dennisleadbetter7721]

Hi James, I guess some people may not notice that variation, but it's significant. I did watch your original video and wondered how bad it was or whether you were particularly sensitive, but that simple test quantifies the difference. Regards Dennis.

[@maxcady6915]

Does anyone know if the Casio CDP s350 has this same problem?

[@thurasoe2625]

as a beginner , should i choose yamaha p125 or FP 60 or this?? , plz.

[@ThePianoforever]

I would choose a Yamaha P125 or a Kawai es110.

[@thurasoe2625]

ThePianoforever thz . i will go for it sir,