Cast or Pass? The Gravity Sorceries, Are They Worth the Cast in Elden Ring?

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Tulok & Mango

Tulok & Mango

Күн бұрын

Are the spells even worth it in Elden Ring? Surely some of them are right? There is only one way to know for sure which ones are worth casting, and which ones we should be passing by. Check out this forceful build using only the Gravity Sorceries as we see how effective they are in taking on all remembrances in the lands between... even Malenia
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@grfrjiglstan
@grfrjiglstan 10 ай бұрын
NPCs rush in close: The Boulder feels conflicted Get some distance from the enemy: The Boulder’s over his conflicted feelings
@tulokthebarbrarian2033
@tulokthebarbrarian2033 10 ай бұрын
I just want them to leave me alone 😢
@Vyzion2020
@Vyzion2020 10 ай бұрын
Close your eyes to see the world around you.
@samakiraroyjanssen6326
@samakiraroyjanssen6326 10 ай бұрын
you know what would fix that? using a gravity ball that travels straight forward. like gravity well.
@curvilinearcube8716
@curvilinearcube8716 10 ай бұрын
If you're in charge of gravity there's no way you could POSSIBLY fail the swag jump to safety... I hope.
@tulokthebarbrarian2033
@tulokthebarbrarian2033 10 ай бұрын
So true, we should make it no problem
@jujuplanet2866
@jujuplanet2866 10 ай бұрын
Fun fact in case anybody wasn’t aware: arrow’s reach talisman actually increases the range and effectivity range of rock sling
@alflobitoskate
@alflobitoskate 10 ай бұрын
also if you use your left hand to cast it gets more range
@jujuplanet2866
@jujuplanet2866 10 ай бұрын
@@alflobitoskate I didn’t know about that
@hockeater
@hockeater 10 ай бұрын
@@jujuplanet2866 Pretty sure they fixed the left hand thing, but the arrow talisman totally still works.
@Richard-t1s
@Richard-t1s 3 ай бұрын
Still too slow. especially when npc and bosses still faster than you
@jujuplanet2866
@jujuplanet2866 3 ай бұрын
@@Richard-t1s not really. Npc’s don’t know how to dodge rock sling properly
@smefgrimstae7845
@smefgrimstae7845 10 ай бұрын
I look at how Rennala moves in phase 2 and cannot help but think "I wish I could move like that when I cast spells." Imagine how much more dynamic being a caster could be...
@silverbolt6699
@silverbolt6699 10 ай бұрын
That's why I wish there were more dynamic spells. Ones like Catch Flame where you can do it out of roll and mid air. They don't have to be great, just more options would be nice. Also things with movement like Horn Charge. And make chaining spells more viable. Having a (some) big spells have their cast time decrease after doing several spells in a row would be neat. More spell diversity in fighting while also making so they are still predictable.
@wfmstigers
@wfmstigers 10 ай бұрын
I feel like a lot of the time magic gets a bad wrap because it "makes the game too easy" and like, backing up and casting is obviously easier but getting the right timing for most spells/npc fights can be just as difficult as getting in their face. Especially since you're working on a limited amount of attacks
@tulokthebarbrarian2033
@tulokthebarbrarian2033 10 ай бұрын
I think it's got a lower floor, but a higher ceiling. if you're a new player expecting to die 20-40 times to every boss, spell casting will get you there. But if you're used to winning more fights than you lose, having to pray for a little luck from the spell gods is not as satisfying
@myatthu7165
@myatthu7165 10 ай бұрын
The thing is,in most of the games,casters has to trade off other things to achieve their long range power,like being frail or having to stand still or having long cast time and big mama cost,or bosses having enough hps to tank through the spells. Elden Ring casters has none of that weaknesses bcs of how this game balances (at least in Ng 0). Being frail?level up vigor and now the boss have to deal with not only and spell spam but also a brick wall. Long cast time and mama cost?Get carian slicer'd. Boss being tanky?The only boss that can be called tanky in this entire game is rykard and that thing is a gimmick boss.All the other bosses will not survive more than three flasks worth of magic with half decent build.(Yes and I mean even fire giant) Magic is by no mean makes game too easy but,it genuinely has an inherit advantage bcs of how this game works.
@rafaelbordoni516
@rafaelbordoni516 10 ай бұрын
@@myatthu7165 I disagree with that. You're not wrong about the advantages casters get that you listed, but when you compare them to strength/dex builds, they all go away. All builds in this game have ranged and AoE attacks, it used to be exclusive to casters but now they're not. I think the game is extremely balanced in the end, everybody gets weapons of all sizes and speeds, everybody gets pews and kabooms and everybody gets to wear heavy armor. You could say casters need more mind and have less slots for talismans in exchange for higher variety of their casts, but honestly I don't think it's a fair trade. In my honest experience, strength is the easiest to beat the game with.
@ItWasBetterBefore
@ItWasBetterBefore 10 ай бұрын
@@rafaelbordoni516 100%. My first few builds were different types of magic builds. Now I'm running on a pure strength build and can't believe how much easier it is. I stagger enemies so much more often, and they die so much faster, which means I take less damage. There is no easy mode in Elden Ring, but I'd say a strength build is efficient mode.
@Dzimko-rc2io
@Dzimko-rc2io 10 ай бұрын
@@myatthu7165 So first of all you are forgetting that you need to level mind separately and your FP doesn't get restored automatically like in other games (so less healing). You have 10-30 less points in endurance/vigor on caster due to that. Other games also don't have ashes of war - which are often better spells in ER. Pure caster builds are relatively mediocre at least due to FP in ER. Int builds are on another hand borderline OP. You can run around with DGMS or wings of astel stunlocking everything faster than strength build with colossals. Poker/slicer gives you bleed level of DPS and kriss can oneshot 95% of flora and fauna for barely any FP. Add moonveil, and simply cold/magic weapons. And spells are cherry on the top. Imho for NG, without relying on respecs - intelligence (with just a little of spellcasting) and strength (with 15-25 faith) builds are the easiest
@Blossom_Nova
@Blossom_Nova 10 ай бұрын
Imagine my surprise that gravity spells fell off. Cant wait for that beast spells video, Im sure that run went amazing!
@tulokthebarbrarian2033
@tulokthebarbrarian2033 10 ай бұрын
Technically, it did worse, but I think it was more fun personally
@StanleyG23
@StanleyG23 10 ай бұрын
You most likely could have one-shot Radagon if you used the Bloodboil Aromatic since it would've boosted the Physical Damage of Meteorite of Astel by 30%, but I assume you probably didn't allow yourself to use any consumables like that since they're also just kind of a hassle to get in the first place and since you're already not using buffs like Golden Vow or Flame, Grant Me Strength. Anyway, looking forward to the Beast Incantations run.
@tulokthebarbrarian2033
@tulokthebarbrarian2033 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, I don't really like playing "DDR dance break buff time" before boss fights haha
@TheMoogleKing93
@TheMoogleKing93 10 ай бұрын
@@tulokthebarbrarian2033 Look how powerful this build is! *spends 5 minutes stacking buffs to deal 5000% more damage*
@AverageDoctor345
@AverageDoctor345 10 ай бұрын
@@TheMoogleKing93 Plus the hours spent both farming for the materials and scavenger hunting for the items to make that even possible
@MightyGalacticVIII
@MightyGalacticVIII 10 ай бұрын
@@TheMoogleKing93does the same damage as an ash of war
@hockeater
@hockeater 10 ай бұрын
Why use rock sling when you have night comet? Because the enemy in question is heavily magic resistant, or dies to stance pressure.
@concernednerd5706
@concernednerd5706 10 ай бұрын
I remember using rocksling in my sorcery-only run. It's pretty fun, but definitely not an endgame spell on its own. But It definitely helped me until I could get the "nuke them from orbit" spells.
@hockeater
@hockeater 10 ай бұрын
It IS still good when dealing with highly magic resistant shit. Hi Ranni quest dragon.
@concernednerd5706
@concernednerd5706 10 ай бұрын
@@hockeater Oh for sure. I used Rock Sling for Rennala and used the Meteors of Astel against Adulas to get Adulas Moonblade. It definitely has its uses, especially when dealing with Liurnia in general.
@tulokthebarbrarian2033
@tulokthebarbrarian2033 10 ай бұрын
Notification squad lets gooooo
@floofyster
@floofyster 10 ай бұрын
WOOOOO THE BONKS OF SPELLS (I'm actually just so excited i can comment first to my favorite channel)
@tulokthebarbrarian2033
@tulokthebarbrarian2033 10 ай бұрын
We can pretend you were first
@konradkinne4089
@konradkinne4089 9 ай бұрын
11:35 my brother in Marika, if I see you using the blasphemous blade with shard of alexander and godfrey icon, I am revoking your weapon art privileges
@D00MTR33
@D00MTR33 2 ай бұрын
Godfrey doesn't work on Blasphemous blade.
@koujow
@koujow 10 ай бұрын
As a Spell Enjoyer, I actually love it when Tulok calls us trash. They always do it in such a way that I want to say "Thank you daddy, can I have another?" (I assume he is going to mock us. I haven't watched it)
@PancakesEnjoyer
@PancakesEnjoyer 4 ай бұрын
Crikey.
@btarczy5067
@btarczy5067 10 ай бұрын
I came into the second stream right on time to witness the OVERPOWERED Meteorite of Astel that makes Radagon free GUARANTEED so to me this has to be the easiest run yet )
@cinnamoon423
@cinnamoon423 10 ай бұрын
5:50 Nah more like somehow getting outsped by SHUCKLE of all things. The pokemon with the LOWEST base speed stat (5) (Considering no trick room) And yes I'm the one pokemon nerd that get all your references lol
@tulokthebarbrarian2033
@tulokthebarbrarian2033 10 ай бұрын
Good, we'll keep making them
@williamblack2904
@williamblack2904 10 ай бұрын
I also love the delay on rock sling. When the rocks come out of the ground that’s when most enemies try and dodge, and then the rocks fire and track to them after.
@shademonki13
@shademonki13 10 ай бұрын
Meteorite of Astel is capable of killing Placidusax in one cast, that alone kinda feels deserving of a Cast tbh
@jackdague1792
@jackdague1792 10 ай бұрын
Definitely have low hopes for the Beast incants. As someone who loves playing caster, I will always tell you the best way to play caster... is to play melee. Which basically invalidates 90% of the few practical spells in the game. But the beast incantations are unique in that they are absolutely intended to be used as a component of a melee build, not as a main source of damage like other spell families.
@LowTierVergil_Official
@LowTierVergil_Official 10 ай бұрын
I say this as a dedicated spell caster: I have never noticed a difference in speed between using Radagon’s Icon, Azur’s Staff, both, and neither. Like seriously is it really that much of a difference? Also personally I prefer Carian Regal Scepter over Lusat’s but I respect using it all the same
@tulokthebarbrarian2033
@tulokthebarbrarian2033 10 ай бұрын
It's slightly better, and does make some windows better. But it's definitely not worth investing in Dex
@Deneb626
@Deneb626 10 ай бұрын
I think there are a *couple* of spells where it's noticeable, like the bubble spells.... I think.... The difference is only super noticeable on spells with long windups. Otherwise you're probably only getting a few frames worth of difference, if anything
@concernednerd5706
@concernednerd5706 10 ай бұрын
Honestly, I don't bother trying to improve casting speed. I accept that spells are slow and just put my vigor to the cap. At least the damage makes up for it when I can pull it off.
@SheffiTB
@SheffiTB 10 ай бұрын
yeah basically when the game talks about "casting speed" what they're really talking about is "that weird, artificial-feeling delay where you're standing still and have the icon of your spell school floating in front of you". That's the only thing casting speed affects. At 70 dex, that artificial delay doesn't exist anymore. So it purely depends on how long that delay is on the spell you're casting; some spells don't even have it at all, like carian slicer.
@btarczy5067
@btarczy5067 10 ай бұрын
In NG+X runs investing heavily in Dex as a caster is worth it but not really before. Hitting thresholds with the Radagon Icon can however be done without much investment. Even if it isn’t always apparent a few frames can make a difference in opening punish windows. Weird sentence. Anyway, a bit of Dex on an Int build isn’t too bad considering Moonveil exists. And Wing of Astel, Death Ritual Spear… Oh, and I guess spells that can be cast a tiny bit faster.
@aisnota5192
@aisnota5192 10 ай бұрын
All that's missing in this build is her simping for Deku and getting less and less screentime as it goes on.
@tulokthebarbrarian2033
@tulokthebarbrarian2033 10 ай бұрын
Uraraka? More like... UraROBBEDka of story moments
@nicolasvillasecaali7662
@nicolasvillasecaali7662 10 ай бұрын
It's almost like the writing of the series was questionable and have a thing to misuse it's characters potential and ideals, sadly.
@aisnota5192
@aisnota5192 10 ай бұрын
@@tulokthebarbrarian2033 HaHA. Good one. Broke Gravity a bit, but worth it.
@voidkingofswing5933
@voidkingofswing5933 10 ай бұрын
I've actually used Meteor of Astel against Placi, and with the right positioning, it just knocks him on his ass and kills him before he gets back up
@tulokthebarbrarian2033
@tulokthebarbrarian2033 10 ай бұрын
Happy for you sounds consistent
@voidkingofswing5933
@voidkingofswing5933 10 ай бұрын
It was not, i needed 6 tries and I havent tried again.
@andrewmccandliss399
@andrewmccandliss399 10 ай бұрын
I missed you during my lunch break yesterday. Good to see a video today!
@tulokthebarbrarian2033
@tulokthebarbrarian2033 10 ай бұрын
We'll be on time next week!
@viperleviathan9021
@viperleviathan9021 10 ай бұрын
I love these challenges so much, they're super creative and really entertaining. This might be BOLD(er) of me to day, but this one in particular really ROCKED.
@dasaggropop1244
@dasaggropop1244 10 ай бұрын
everybody should know at this point that gravity is the most lethal force in elden ring. oh you mean gravity spells. they are ok too i guess
@tulokthebarbrarian2033
@tulokthebarbrarian2033 10 ай бұрын
"Ok" is a pretty great description for them
@nicolasvillasecaali7662
@nicolasvillasecaali7662 10 ай бұрын
Clear case of the boss fight beatdown experience vs the boss when you unlock it as playable character.
@TheRealSinful
@TheRealSinful 10 ай бұрын
Funny about the start of the video but Beast Rocks (Rock Sling and Beast Claw specifically) are moreso like melee combat than Space Rocks
@tulokthebarbrarian2033
@tulokthebarbrarian2033 10 ай бұрын
We just finished this run, and yeah, I kinda vibe with them
@TheMoogleKing93
@TheMoogleKing93 10 ай бұрын
I always thought the Meteorite Staff should have had Strength scaling, like the Clawmark seal. The Gravity well spells would pair well with a melee build, the most iconic gravity themed character is a massive strong guy and all the gravity ashes of war come with the Heavy infusion.
@tulokthebarbrarian2033
@tulokthebarbrarian2033 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, I wish any staff had a physical scaling stat. It would just be interesting
@btarczy5067
@btarczy5067 10 ай бұрын
The Meteorite Staff does have some strength scaling iirc but at the point it would become relevant against the S Int scaling there are better staffs anyway.
@kiltysalter2966
@kiltysalter2966 10 ай бұрын
@@btarczy5067it does not scale with strength at all. It just has a strength requirement, like most weapons.
@btarczy5067
@btarczy5067 10 ай бұрын
@@kiltysalter2966 According to Fextralife there’s a D scaling in strength which is, as I said, irrelevant. If it’s even there at all, Fextralife has been known to have some mistakes.
@Ivaknight
@Ivaknight 10 ай бұрын
The strength scaling is for when you bonk stuff with the staff, just like any catalyst that has str scaling (except clawmark + frenzy seals)
@akeempierre-louis3066
@akeempierre-louis3066 10 ай бұрын
I’m happy to be one of the first few to see your videos they are always awesome 💯🔥 one of if not my favorite elden ring creator keep it up please 🙏🏾
@tulokthebarbrarian2033
@tulokthebarbrarian2033 10 ай бұрын
Happy to do it, notification team respect
@tumecooper677
@tumecooper677 10 ай бұрын
common Tulok W
@tulokthebarbrarian2033
@tulokthebarbrarian2033 10 ай бұрын
I mean if every boss is a W, that's a lot of W on the board
@copeseethemorb
@copeseethemorb 10 ай бұрын
Helping by watching this
@tulokthebarbrarian2033
@tulokthebarbrarian2033 10 ай бұрын
Bless you
@IncoisaRadio87
@IncoisaRadio87 10 ай бұрын
I honestly am all about spells, but I'm really NOT all about that Pure Caster mindset. There are so many amazing faith and int weapons and people expect me to just... dual wield staffs and seals instead of holding a weapon in one hand and a catalyst in the other? It's like dual wielding shields. Wait, shield builds are a thing in elden ring too-
@LaoziPoet
@LaoziPoet 10 ай бұрын
Bro I've been called some wild stuff when people find out I'm a gemini. It's pretty annoying cuz I'm nothing like other gemini I've met. For example, you make GOOD elden ring videos and mine are bad.
@tulokthebarbrarian2033
@tulokthebarbrarian2033 10 ай бұрын
Fr, people fucking HATE geminis
@jaredgerbing3394
@jaredgerbing3394 7 ай бұрын
Dude said, "its meteo-alright" when meteor-cre is right there.
@jacobfreeman5444
@jacobfreeman5444 10 ай бұрын
I only carry rock throw to deal with enemies that have obscene magic resist. Typically those enemies are not fast so it is perfectly fine to chuck rocks at them. Gravity magic is a cool idea but they didn't develop it enough to make it something to specialize in. Which makes me sad. You can be a bad ass magic projectile thrower and an awesome magical knight, but the spells that might allow for other builds are pretty lacking. I would love to be able to crush my enemies by amplifying their own weight or throw things like my enemies or even myself through the air.
@jayemdaewarehouse9027
@jayemdaewarehouse9027 10 ай бұрын
As someone who played a 99 INT Mage for my first playthrough, rock sling is an incredible tool in the kit. It has some serious shortcomings which need to be picked up by fast pebble and moon magic, which is why this run was so up and down. Cool playthrough, though.
@Keithnicity
@Keithnicity 6 ай бұрын
Rock Sling with the Meteor Staff is basically a cheat code to utterly destroy everything in front of you right into the end game.
@Jonathin
@Jonathin 10 ай бұрын
stone of guranq is rock sling but cooler
@tulokthebarbrarian2033
@tulokthebarbrarian2033 10 ай бұрын
Accurate take
@WUZLE
@WUZLE 10 ай бұрын
Rock Sling plus greatshield soldier ashes will get you all the way to the Elden Beast, and Meteorite of Astel, another gravity spell, will take over from there. Night Comet is incredbly powerful but a gravity only run is perfectly feasible.
@daltonturner1824
@daltonturner1824 10 ай бұрын
The best advice I can give for Rock Sling is begin casting at a 90° degree angle to your target without locking on then after the casting animation starts you lock on and the rocks will be lined up with each other in a parallel line to the enemy. I usually find it catches dodgy NPCs better.
@mason-.
@mason-. 10 ай бұрын
Have you ever thought about how we dont need gravity?
@tulokthebarbrarian2033
@tulokthebarbrarian2033 10 ай бұрын
Wow is this Tisha Paysters
@mason-.
@mason-. 10 ай бұрын
@@tulokthebarbrarian2033 yes
@adrenas3044
@adrenas3044 10 ай бұрын
I need a compilation of every fort haight joke, there’s like 30+.
@tulokthebarbrarian2033
@tulokthebarbrarian2033 10 ай бұрын
Can you imagine?
@blackmoon2128
@blackmoon2128 3 ай бұрын
"This brick wall is no match for my skull" is something that I'll totally reference in the future. Relatable fr fr.
@beck5240
@beck5240 10 ай бұрын
The mix of condescension and ignorance is baffling when it comes to ur spell takes
@TPBfr
@TPBfr 10 ай бұрын
Can we get an f in the chat for the funny number😔 but the grind must go on
@futuristicbus61
@futuristicbus61 10 ай бұрын
This’ll be an awesome vid gravity magic is cool
@monkeydetonation
@monkeydetonation 10 ай бұрын
Rock sling is goated, I'm sorry you can't see that
@persephonekoziol4333
@persephonekoziol4333 10 ай бұрын
It's 9.81 meters per second SQUARED. meters per second is a velocity, not an acceleration
@tulokthebarbrarian2033
@tulokthebarbrarian2033 10 ай бұрын
Shit, fake gravity fan over here, I've been busted :/
@patdav56
@patdav56 10 ай бұрын
i was one of those "part of a kit" people in chat, and honestly? that wasnt a defense, the spells are Bad with a capital B. just sometimes the character wants to chuck rocks as he's too far to use Hammer yet lol
@tulokthebarbrarian2033
@tulokthebarbrarian2033 10 ай бұрын
For sure, and that's actually why the beast spells will do better next week
@patdav56
@patdav56 10 ай бұрын
@@tulokthebarbrarian2033 hahaha yeah absolutely!...... totally.... oh gosh i feel so bad for you going through this ^u^'
@maxwellhere8694
@maxwellhere8694 10 ай бұрын
gravideez nuts
@tulokthebarbrarian2033
@tulokthebarbrarian2033 10 ай бұрын
Wow, fell for the Tragedy of Bophades
@maxwellhere8694
@maxwellhere8694 10 ай бұрын
@@tulokthebarbrarian2033 is that the one about Mico?
@ragingenchilada5012
@ragingenchilada5012 10 ай бұрын
Why didn't KZbin give me a notification? I have them on, oh well I got something to watch for lunch now :D
@tulokthebarbrarian2033
@tulokthebarbrarian2033 10 ай бұрын
Enjoy that lunch and make sure you take as long of a break as you can
@M12Z0
@M12Z0 10 ай бұрын
Thank you Phil, I didn't know we could kill Radagon comboing Meteorite of Astel + dmg
@M12Z0
@M12Z0 10 ай бұрын
Its not sarcasm, I just frased it weird😂
@iheartblock3792
@iheartblock3792 10 ай бұрын
The unfortunate thing about this run is that gravity sorceries only really excel in combination with other attacks. They’re amazing at setting up or maintaining a chain with other sorceries, ashes, or melee weapons, but most of them are just…very average on their own.
@tulokthebarbrarian2033
@tulokthebarbrarian2033 10 ай бұрын
But if you're combo-ing them with other stuff, is it not better to just USE THE OTHER STUFF
@WeretigerX
@WeretigerX 10 ай бұрын
@@tulokthebarbrarian2033 Depends on the situation. Rock sling tracks enemies farther than a lot of other spells, so it's good as a long-ranged option, which can set up for switching to a quicker spell at mid-close ranges. Meteorite of Astel is good at staggering/stun locking certain bosses (one example is all Leonine bosses) with low poise where sometimes they will move out of Comet Azur. And of course, Rock Sling's stance break is good to chain with Comet Azur. I wouldn't exactly call them "meta" but those two spells at least I feel are decent to good options in certain spots. At least for me, when I did a pure caster, I had carrion slicer ready at all times for close range combat and it made some of those spells more manageable.
@iheartblock3792
@iheartblock3792 10 ай бұрын
@@tulokthebarbrarian2033 not necessarily, it depends on the situation. Raw DPS isn’t everything, and the combos often result in great stagger potential and greater damage overall
@Champion919Games
@Champion919Games 10 ай бұрын
8:37 I’m pretty sure he’s fire dragon
@Technodreamer
@Technodreamer 10 ай бұрын
With all the rocks you're throwing, this playthrough must have been pretty Toph.
@tulokthebarbrarian2033
@tulokthebarbrarian2033 10 ай бұрын
I wanted this to be a Toph tier build, but it was too toph
@thecopperandroid8989
@thecopperandroid8989 10 ай бұрын
Rock Sling is great to break stance safely, the best stance breaker for an int-arcane build to get dagger crits with, especially when the build is squishy. The tracking also sometimes just goes off in the best way.
@tulokthebarbrarian2033
@tulokthebarbrarian2033 10 ай бұрын
For an Int/arcane specifically I guess, but like... what a weird combo? Also, weapon. Just weapons to stance break. Why are you trying to crit with a caster?
@thecopperandroid8989
@thecopperandroid8989 10 ай бұрын
@@tulokthebarbrarian2033 ​​⁠ if I’m gonna be honest I just find it really funny for some inexplicable reason that I can neither quantify or justify.
@wislordthewhite2823
@wislordthewhite2823 10 ай бұрын
I don't think you guys get the gravity of this video
@nevogolan6505
@nevogolan6505 10 ай бұрын
The appeal of spell builds is the ability to change up your attacks. Also you're the one who decided you can't also use a weapon
@tulokthebarbrarian2033
@tulokthebarbrarian2033 10 ай бұрын
Spells only have 1 attack. Weapons have r1, r2, dash attack, jump heavy, jump light, rolling attack and the ash of war, which you can swap on common weapons. But I agree, spell only run would be better with weapons. Because then I could use weapons instead of spells
@TirnenOg281
@TirnenOg281 10 ай бұрын
@@tulokthebarbrarian2033 I think he was talking about swapping between spells on the fly, which does give casters more versatility (8-10 weightless "weapons" with varying cast speed, range, damage, tracking, status effects, etc.) and combo potential. I get it's not your preferred playstyle, but some of us do have fun with caster builds!
@VileLasagna
@VileLasagna 10 ай бұрын
I dunno, Rock Sling I feel is still pretty useful, I feel. Stance pressure is not common on spells, so it helps a lot in a bunch of situations, either opening you up for a crit if you're carrying a weapon too or something silly like Meteorite/Comet Azur, etc... It's also got SURPRISING range, which is boosted by the Arrow's Reach Talisman, making it real handy for sniping. I share your feeling on Gravity Well though, the IDEA of pulling enemies to their deaths is funny but I couldn't really find anywhere that was useful. If you struggled with these, tho, I'm already in commiseration for your Beast run. Basically the ONLY good beast spell is Stone of Gurranq. And it IS really good, better than Rock Sling in some aspects, even. But it has a bunch of problems, heck, just getting to it will be a nightmare all on its own, though if you allow yourself the Cinquedea, that dagger is also surprisingly decent early on.
@rafaelbordoni516
@rafaelbordoni516 10 ай бұрын
It doesn't help that these are kinda challenge runs where he forces himself to only use these spells to deal damage, in real life most people using rock sling just press R1 or L2 when the enemy is close. The fact that gravity spells are all so situational is the perfect way to balance spells and weapons in my opinion, sadly very few are balanced in this way.
@kiltysalter2966
@kiltysalter2966 10 ай бұрын
@@rafaelbordoni516I really feel that spells should have a move set. Ditch the awkward bonk animation and give me light and heavy variations.
@icantthinkofagoodname8002
@icantthinkofagoodname8002 10 ай бұрын
Mom look I'm in a Tulok & Mango video! :D (At the beginning and it made me happy lol. Also literally showed it to my Mom X3)
@blakesorrell2487
@blakesorrell2487 10 ай бұрын
The Godfrey section reminded me of my D&D game set in the Lands Between. We’re in Raya Lucaria atm and the solution to combat mages is to hit them one time in the face really hard and then they’re no longer a problem. S tier analysis
@FoxyDean
@FoxyDean 10 ай бұрын
So, I'm definitely on Team Spells, I love the fantasy of being a wizard. But yeah, a lot of times they're less efficient than a weapon is. And I feel that your observation about people forming opinions based on DS 1 is the reason for that. People have been bagging on sorcery as easy mode for so long From doesn't want to take chances and make it "too" good. Which is too bad. I really hope they change their mind on that for the DLC. Some cool and efficient spells would be really great.
@SuperAgeorgia
@SuperAgeorgia 10 ай бұрын
"pray to RNJesus" is an academy award worthy line. Applause.
@tulokthebarbrarian2033
@tulokthebarbrarian2033 10 ай бұрын
Oh, its a meme I've heard many other places, but thank you
@Onebadterran
@Onebadterran 10 ай бұрын
As a mage in my current Seamless Co-Op run with my spouse, I am a heavily armored (Radahan's Armor) mage. I keep trying other spells but honestly, there are only a couple spells that feel viable. There are a lot of cool spells but honestly most seem bad unfortunately. Also, armor feels so necessary as trading is a requirement.
@TheEasilyBeatable
@TheEasilyBeatable 9 ай бұрын
Meteorite of Astel is basically a 10x more powerful Comet Azur if used on a big target, so endgame should just be using those two spells and you'll dominate everything
@archmageguidla
@archmageguidla 10 ай бұрын
I did a purple “pew-pew” run as my NG +2. I enjoyed being a gravity mage as my first magic run. If the DLC doesn’t come out soon, I might do a blue “pew-pew” run, still considering. But l agree that weapons are generally better. Thanks for the video.
@BoZoiD57
@BoZoiD57 10 ай бұрын
Currently playing a melee mage since I only do unga bunga characters. Glintstone pebble is CRACKED as an endgame pew pew
@tulokthebarbrarian2033
@tulokthebarbrarian2033 10 ай бұрын
I gotta try the fast blue boys, maybe they'll impress me
@Monkeylighthouse
@Monkeylighthouse 10 ай бұрын
Blue pew pew is gonna be interesting because in my experience the cost efficient ones do almost no damage by the half way point in the game and the only ones that do good damage take a ridiculous amount of fp
@bobroberts2581
@bobroberts2581 10 ай бұрын
If you turn yourself to the side while you cast rock sling it will summon the rocks in a straight line compared to the enemy. Think a 5 round rifle shot. It’s great for distance, but if an enemy is coming at you the stones can go towards you, not away, meaning they can adjust to intercept fast enemies. It’s weird trying to explain it, but mess with it some next time you have rock sling on a character.
@thecopperandroid8989
@thecopperandroid8989 10 ай бұрын
Prediction: most will be a cast minus maybe one of the attraction spells Edit: FUCK
@tulokthebarbrarian2033
@tulokthebarbrarian2033 10 ай бұрын
Buy a lottery ticket
@Gat-Man55
@Gat-Man55 10 ай бұрын
I detect a missed opportunity for the gravity build to be cosplaying enrico pucci from jojos part 6
@tulokthebarbrarian2033
@tulokthebarbrarian2033 10 ай бұрын
I don't like anime, that's why I did an MHA character
@Gat-Man55
@Gat-Man55 10 ай бұрын
@@tulokthebarbrarian2033 😐😐😐
@D00MTR33
@D00MTR33 2 ай бұрын
What's the best spell in the game? Golden vow Oh, 🤔 ok. Second best? Flame grant me strength. Fuck! Third best? Hmm... I guess night comet. Yes!!! Win for mages everywhere! DLC comes out, "how do you feel about thorns?"
@Valakzl
@Valakzl 10 ай бұрын
Wizardry!?
@tulokthebarbrarian2033
@tulokthebarbrarian2033 10 ай бұрын
Sorcery technically
@MightyGalacticVIII
@MightyGalacticVIII 10 ай бұрын
This video really rocked me
@TRquiet
@TRquiet Ай бұрын
You know, it’s my fault for clicking on one of your videos involving anything other than weapons (except daggers, bows, light greatswords…)
@murphieslaw6932
@murphieslaw6932 10 ай бұрын
My favorite Int Caster build: Get good Int and Dex, get Moonveil... There is no more steps. That´s it ! XD Seriously, my Int/Dex Samurai build HAS spells and a staff, and I use it about 0,8 % of the time - usually to get floaty swords to hit along with my transient moonlight, the radioactive monster version of unsheath. The secret to being a good wizzard is not being a wizzard at all, hehe. But if I ever need those dishonest sorceries, I can still use ´em... There are even more cool int weapons that have weapon skills better than most scorceries, like wing of astel, ritual spear, darkmoon greatsword, etc. Int is a great stat, but mostly for the weapons. Of course, if you wanna go full mage mode - use a summon, if you don´t hate yourself a smuch as Tulok does. Bro, who hurt you ? ; )
@dextervepps8794
@dextervepps8794 10 ай бұрын
I'm glad cast or pass is continuing. Looking forward to the rest
@EndeavorSSB
@EndeavorSSB 10 ай бұрын
Bro complained about how often he was missing? As a Rock-Type? Bro you were using Stone Edge 90% of the run! That move’s only got 70 accuracy lmao.
@Frozenkoldfury
@Frozenkoldfury 10 ай бұрын
I think putting Rock Sling on the pass list is a bit unfair. It is, by your own admission, a good early game spell, and it does make a nice stop-gap before the likes of Night Comet or whacky shit like Comet Azur. It's gonna fall off endgame, but so do some weapons or ashes of war. And if your playing a pure caster, it's a nice early game option. That said, the rest of the spells are, yeah, kinda naff. Cool looking, but naff. Keep the good work coming, you're the only elden Ring KZbinr left that I watch outside of EvE videos like Bjorn the bear. Good luck with the beast incantations, the only one I like is 'Big Rock'
@grymmjack
@grymmjack 9 ай бұрын
Rock sling and meteorite carried my first play on Xbox. Is OP
@doubletoked7054
@doubletoked7054 10 ай бұрын
Once you go spellcaster, youll... uhm... idk run faster?
@tulokthebarbrarian2033
@tulokthebarbrarian2033 10 ай бұрын
Staves should make you run faster like knives used to in that one shooter game
@doubletoked7054
@doubletoked7054 10 ай бұрын
XD of course! Physics!!@@tulokthebarbrarian2033
@tysonjdevereaux
@tysonjdevereaux 10 ай бұрын
This video rocks
@tulokthebarbrarian2033
@tulokthebarbrarian2033 10 ай бұрын
It's much like cleveland in that way
@Unknowngnostic
@Unknowngnostic 4 ай бұрын
I never played a souls game before elden ring. I picked astrologer at random. Learned bow hard the game is ..lol but i beat it with rock sling and pebble. Literally all i used except i had moonveil in my offhand. My set up was totally awkward lol. But i did it. I haven't done an int run again. Bit if i can beat it with rocksling and pebble anyone can. If you dont have time for rocks, try 50 pebbles...lol
@katyushabby5107
@katyushabby5107 10 ай бұрын
I feel like the point of spells was never to be your main weapon. Like yeah, you CAN do that, but there's a reason "magic only" is a pretty commonly done challenge run. Lorewise, spellcasters are quite powerful and can change the tide of battle, but mechanically speaking, they had to balance it. Spells are utility. Different spells have different properties, ranges, speeds, etc., different uses to cover the weaknesses of whatever weapon you're wielding to supplement them. I think the people arguing for pure spellcasting builds just want to hear you complain, and you know what, I get it, people on the Internet like that type of content. I don't, but I get it.
@nekrovulpes
@nekrovulpes 10 ай бұрын
This channel is my favourite pretend internet friend at the minute. Yeah, you're right, I was too good for her, it is her loss. Yeah, I do deserve a McDonalds. Yeah, I have been working out, how'd you tell. Thanks bro.
@MrMaradok
@MrMaradok 10 ай бұрын
Sure, Astel Meteor isn’t the best spell, but it’s got a special place in my heart After struggling with Melania for hours, my current Jolly Cooperators got her in a position during phase two where she was just far enough for me to dump my whole mana bar and start making rocks fall on her like it’s old school AD&D!
@alicetippet6007
@alicetippet6007 10 ай бұрын
WE ARE SO BACK
@tulokthebarbrarian2033
@tulokthebarbrarian2033 10 ай бұрын
The only thing that's OVER? is the wait for the new video
@quanahlecornu478
@quanahlecornu478 10 ай бұрын
I do stand by gravity magic as I stand by the rule of cool. This shits cool, not super effective, still cool. Also gives an out to 'I didn't mess up, it's RNG!'
@ACEYGAMES
@ACEYGAMES 10 ай бұрын
I think one of the reasons these all spell only runs keep scoring and feeling so poorly is because Elden Ring isnt really made for you to only cast spells. They're meant to be a tool in your kit, but melee is always bread and butter. Spells do great sometimes and in some situations and terribly in others, while melee is in most situations atleast ok and usually good or even great. I think the game was made with hybrid caster/melee in mind and all the melee weapons with low physical stat requirements but high int/arc/fai requirements are meant to allow that without forcing massive stat spreads. Think how good this run would have gone if you had a gravity themed weapon or a weapon with a gravity weapon art to go along with it. There's 7 gravity weapons in the game and only 1 gravity staff, only 5 gravity spells. Like if your playing a gravity only run, going by number of options alone you're just more likely to use a weapon then a spell and this applies for almost every sorcery school. Loathe as I am to say anyone's playing the game wrong, but I think you're playing Elden Ring wrong if you think the best move is to use one tool exclusively. Not that I'm saying you are saying that here Tulok, this IS a challenge run and using one tool exclusively is the challenge, I just think spells are more situational tools then weapons with only a few exceptions (like carion slicer, which is almost a regular longsword).
@gokusupersaiyan6
@gokusupersaiyan6 10 ай бұрын
Did you change the lighting settings or add a lighting mod? Everything looks very dark.
@Writh811
@Writh811 10 ай бұрын
Beast rocks are way better than Gravity rocks.
@tulokthebarbrarian2033
@tulokthebarbrarian2033 10 ай бұрын
This is the way
@SaganTheKhajiit
@SaganTheKhajiit 10 ай бұрын
Can we be a little real for a second here? It's not just Dark Souls 1. This kind of people lock their opinion on the past for most things. I know people who just honestly think that I have the same habits and beliefs as 15 years ago. Then there's parents calling their children useless and lazy, but because they think it's as easy to get a job and as cheap to buy a house as it was when they were young. I mean, maybe they didn't grow up but the rest of us did.
@flameaux
@flameaux 6 ай бұрын
We like to watch people quip while suffering, it's the basis for pretty much the entirety of British stiff-upper-lip humour. Your cerebral goofing about while suffering fits right into that.
@grymmjack
@grymmjack 9 ай бұрын
Also rotview balcony compatible to kill them ugly birds.
@cloud1824
@cloud1824 10 ай бұрын
I've found that the way to make spells fun is to use them alongside, rather than instead of, a weapon. If you tailor your spell choices to those that cover situations that your weapon doesn't (such as a ranged spell, an AoE, one or two buffs or heals, etc) then imo the game is way more fun than playing with a weapon on its own. It's true that just spamming one button at a boss from a distance isn't that fun... but being able to punish the enemy for moving away from *you* and making *them* have to close that distance rather than having to waste time and stamina running over to wherever the boss teleported/jumped/flew, then smoothly transitioning back to melee with your weapon of choice, feels great.
@andrewgonzales6527
@andrewgonzales6527 10 ай бұрын
I love the gravity sorceries, I'm using them while dressed as Radahn.
@unironicallylikesranger7122
@unironicallylikesranger7122 10 ай бұрын
Sorcery has the problem of just not being very cool. You’ve got like five cool sorceries when most weapons and miracles look really cool, and I don’t want to play with uncool spells so I end up getting kind of bored of the five cool ones
@Arya-db3yd
@Arya-db3yd 8 ай бұрын
Actually using gravity well in a coop run on a melee int build, it's very good at drawing the aggro away from my squishy 10 vigor mage friend
@sergamaralinevods
@sergamaralinevods 7 ай бұрын
I actually am curious since Rock Sling does physical damage does the blue dancer charm do more damage unlike glintstone sorcery or firepots and yes I know he said it works but I don’t know if it actually does the wiki thing has lied to me before repeatedly and I distrust all sources besides doing it myself at this point
@sukugaru5167
@sukugaru5167 10 ай бұрын
I know how much you like “Did you know” comments, so here’s another one! Did you know that if cast Rock Sling with a staff in your off hand, it has much longer range? It means you can back up even further! Also, a prediction for the beast spells: Stone of Gurranq is (mostly) worse than Rock Sling, but the spells as a whole feel more melee weapon-y.
@sukugaru5167
@sukugaru5167 10 ай бұрын
Never mind. I did some testing and it seems that "Rock Sling goes further if cast with the left hand" thing has been fixed. Please go with your first instinct, and ignore the "Did you know" comment.
@Cliche8701
@Cliche8701 10 ай бұрын
If you throw Rock Sling at a fire, would we finally be able to smell what The Rock is cooking? 🤔
@ling_uini
@ling_uini 10 ай бұрын
This channel rocks
@cryptickitsune1750
@cryptickitsune1750 4 күн бұрын
I usually don’t use health flasks and I don’t upgrade health until late game when I can utilize the healing incantations
@eaglelord145
@eaglelord145 10 ай бұрын
14:50 That is my opinion on spells and incantations. Are they objectively good and better than weapons? Not really… a pure spellcaster build has a lot of problems so you’re better going for a hybrid build if you wanna use em at all, but god they are so fucking cool
@tulokthebarbrarian2033
@tulokthebarbrarian2033 10 ай бұрын
Style over substance imho. They look cool, but they're not really giving you anything you can't do better with a weapon
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