X-men Origins: Wolverine to me is great & didn't deserve all the trolling it got. So what that it was leaked before release
@mooncaketin3 ай бұрын
Does "Logan" count as an X-men movie or a Wolverine movie?
@DaRealDJ3 ай бұрын
"Lets base the comics on the movie which explicitly didn't want to be influenced by the comics." What could go wrong!?
@Linklex73 ай бұрын
Marvel’s biggest weakness.
@ProjektTaku3 ай бұрын
@@Linklex7 I'm still not over the Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch retcon! Especially now that they have the movie rights to the mutants.
@jesusramirezromo20373 ай бұрын
@@ProjektTaku ironic, since it's a retcon that they're Magneto's kids, It's an un-retcon
@ProjektTaku3 ай бұрын
@@jesusramirezromo2037 Its actually an un-retcon + retcon, since it retcons out their mutant origin they've had since they were introduced.
@matthewschwartz66073 ай бұрын
It seemed to have worked.
@thomasraines13963 ай бұрын
“Some of the characters were off the table for various reasons… like being dead.” that was really funny.
@dallasgrey42473 ай бұрын
Grant Morrison never cares about who’s dead
@johnpotts83083 ай бұрын
Since when did that stop anyone - "Mutant Heaven doesn't have Pearly Gates so much as a revolving door".
@matthewschwartz66073 ай бұрын
Not true at all. Morrison wanted to use Colossus.
@pike1003 ай бұрын
@@matthewschwartz6607Is Colussus dead?
@joelpartee5942 ай бұрын
He was for quite a few years, until the first run of Astonishing, which followed the end of Morrison’s New.
@juansanchez2093 ай бұрын
Personally, I absolutely HATE when adaptations are embarrassed by the source material they are adapting. The first X-Men film is a good movie IMO, but this sentiment of embarrassment towards the comics absolutely RADIATES throughout the film, and I honestly kind of resent the film for that
@seeleunit20003 ай бұрын
That's because I took a couple of decades for mainstream media to accept geek culture. Which sucks, but that's how life is. But you shouldn't be embarrassed the source material
@sboinkthelegday38923 ай бұрын
LotR is one, no you don't. You just have a bias to ignore it when it works, which is more often than not. There's a reason Sauron is a literal fiery eyeball to look cool, and not ramblings of Tom bombadill about environment and the conceptual panopticon of spooky industrialization. TMNT was skittish of violence in the comics. Batman couldn't handle Zorro's anti-colonialism and The good the bad and the Ugly didn't even LAND its satire on American audiences. Winnie the Pooh is too depressing for kids. On and on and on, disrespecting geeks is HOW an IP gets big. If you stay respectful, you're The Flight of Dragons to the average The Legend of Zelda. You don't get to be Spongebob ousting out John K from Ren and Stimpy style, or Miracle Star creating more store brand episodes of Gumball.
@creature67153 ай бұрын
@@sboinkthelegday3892i love how your psychic abilities allow you to know exactly how op actually feels.
@TiberiusX3 ай бұрын
@@seeleunit2000they've been turning back the other way for a decade or so now.
@KasumiKenshirou3 ай бұрын
I really hated the "yellow spandex" line. Within the reality of the movie, why does Cyclops think Wolverine would be expecting to wear yellow spandex? The characters haven't read the X-Men comic books, so why would they be thinking about "yellow spandex"?
@mrbrainly3 ай бұрын
I feel the question is less whether Cyclops could wear contacts, but how inconvenient they'd be to remove and replace whenever he needs to fire his optic blasts
@nctpti20733 ай бұрын
Eh, subset of the same question.
@adamolupin3 ай бұрын
I kept wondering how he'd be able to put them in to begin with.
@AussieDragoon3 ай бұрын
@@adamolupin I guess since his powers don't affect himself he could do it.
@nctpti20733 ай бұрын
@@adamolupin Exactly
@billyhills99333 ай бұрын
There must be a lot of problems with Cyclops' eye care regime. He's unlikely to have had a proper eye examination in his entire life; there could be all sorts of things going wrong in there and he wouldn't know. He can't put eye drops in. Everything he sees is through ruby quartz-tinted spectacles so his colour perception is going to be strange. My other questions: Are his eye bogies explosive in the morning? Have they found anything else that blocks his optic beams apart from ruby quartz? How does he not have a nemesis with ruby quartz skin?
@demetrinight59243 ай бұрын
I remember The Juggernaut's helmet specifically blocking telepathy in the 90s cartoon. So having Magneto's helmet also blocking telepathy made sense. I thought Magneto's helmet always protected him from Charles' telepathy even if that was only established by the movies. It sort of became a retroactive head canon.
@zxshadowxz3 ай бұрын
“I’ve got to call Erik ‘Magnus’, because otherwise he’ll call me Charlie, and that just makes throwing cars at each other awkward.” - Professor X, deflecting all questions about Krakoa.
@tenimeartstudios3 ай бұрын
As an artist, I have ONLY drawn Wolverine's claws coming out between his knuckles since the first movie. It just makes more sense than the top of his hand.
@MatthewPrower3 ай бұрын
5:22 "why does wolverine wear a helmet? is he stupid?" - grant
@sboinkthelegday38923 ай бұрын
Funny since Morrison's "uniforms" look like chav jerseys of scene kids from UK, straight out of a Blur music video. Or gopniks wearing Adidas. It's such a smug Gen X attitude but also parading as victims of being ostracized, while their generation is probably most out of tune privileged rich kids in terms of cutting living expenses and exporting trash to 3rd world, like discarded fast fashion. Right in between vietnam war protests and 2010's climate crisis, they really did not care.
@altalia073 ай бұрын
😱..
@philiphunn1943 ай бұрын
Back to the Aslume with you, Man.
@davidtauriainen91163 ай бұрын
Brain damage can be repaired, but the memories can't. If I were Wolverine whose past was swiss cheesed for some reason, I'd wear a helmet covered in bubble wrap. Slow that brain/adamantium collision a little.
@lukekellerman38302 ай бұрын
It’s not a helmet though, it’s a mask.
@Eyrrll3 ай бұрын
If Cyclops wears contacts he is not really a “cyclops” anymore.
@robertpierce64363 ай бұрын
One thing that the movie pointed out, that I really liked and as far as I know of the comics never addressed, is that every time Wolverine popped his claws, it causes him pain. It’s knives going through his skin, and even though he has the power to heal fast, he still feels everything.
@ProjektTaku3 ай бұрын
Okay, but after like decades of doing it, he'd be numb to the pain. Its like how he doesn't wince when bullets go through his body.
@SimonBuchanNz3 ай бұрын
@@ProjektTakuIIRC: "Doesn't that hurt?" "Every time"
@mattthecatania3 ай бұрын
In the original Weapon X origin, special channels were built into his arms so they could pop out without injuring him like how predators don't need to break skin when they extend their claws. There was a period when the metal covers on his gloves were also drawn on his bare hands. Cutting himself with every snikt wasn't a concern until after his bone claws grew (back) in. Now you'd expect his claws to come out slathered in his own blood instead of shiny & clean.
@demonteprice58703 ай бұрын
I wonder if the bone claws felt nice to come out before they were sharp metal 💀
@LastBastian3 ай бұрын
@@mattthecatania Yep. The Wolverine I grew up with had the metal permanently on the backs of his hands.
@chrismaystar30143 ай бұрын
I think what makes Grant Morrison's pitch extra funny is that his Flex Mentallo short series came before and was all about teaching why funny costumes and sweet messages are a good thing. And they're not even half a decade apart 💀
@Tiny_Dinosaur3 ай бұрын
It makes me think the pitch was made just to give him the book. He knew what the bandits editors wanted to hear so he said it so they would give him the book. He then went on to do whatever he wanted
@jinxie7123 ай бұрын
You can absolutely see the hate for comics in the movie. There are so many lines where he (you know it was Singer) said how stupid the stuff from the comics are. Mystique's look was something they tried in the comics and rolled that back just as fast. Same with Spider-man's organic web shooters.
@forsociopoliticalstuff26293 ай бұрын
Personally I actually prefer the organic webbing (in part because the non-organic webbing is way too easy to become a crutch), but yeah, the movie mystique look didn’t work so well in the comics.
@azuresaiyan90053 ай бұрын
@forsociopoliticalstuff2629 How were the webshooters a crutch? They highlight Peter’s ingenuity while also providing some dramatic element like if he suddenly ran out. All in all, they offer narratively more than the organic webbing.
@nctpti20733 ай бұрын
As a former optician, I can say that the contact lenses make absolutely no sense without them not being necessary at all. With his glasses or his goggles before them, he could close his eyes to put them on. That does not work with contact lenses, lol.
@gunfighter0093 ай бұрын
Also how would you make contact lenses out of a rock
@anitanielsen10613 ай бұрын
That’s exactly what X-Men Evolution did!
@davidtauriainen91163 ай бұрын
At first I wanted to explain that his blasts don't have any effect on himself or ruby quartz, then I realized that he'd be blasting everything in the periphery until the contact was close enough. I suppose he could look at his unstable molecule suit while inserting the contacts.
@ravenwilder40993 ай бұрын
@@davidtauriainen9116 Maybe has to look directly up at the sky while putting them and hope there are no low flying planes?
@KasumiKenshirou3 ай бұрын
I don't think you need to be an optician to know contact lenses don't make sense for Cyclops, but it's good to have confirmation.
@Jay-fw6jo3 ай бұрын
The movie Batman and robin failure at the box office did an impact on the superhero genre movie. The producers were honestly afraid that this would be another failure for the fox company
@seeleunit20003 ай бұрын
That movie was fun. Though, I did get tired of having to see it on repeat during the 2000s. But the bottom line is sometimes stories adapted from comic books don't always have to be so grim and gritty.
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp3 ай бұрын
@seeleunit2000 that's how I saw the movie lol. It was my first exposure Batman
@ggt473 ай бұрын
The leathers could still work if it was blue and yellow or something.
@sabbathjackal3 ай бұрын
Over the years that's become one of my top 10 favorite super hero movies it's so goofy and campy. Very adam west
@ariwl13 ай бұрын
The eventual reveal of Rogue's real name actually threw me a bit. For the longest time, I was under the impression that early usage of her powers had messed up her memory so she didn't remember what her name was. But turns out she just never told anybody. :P
@LUISPRIME3 ай бұрын
This remind me how the 90's Spider-Man tv show became the blue prints for the Raimi's Spider-Man movies and in turn those movies became the blue prints for the 2000 era comics.
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp3 ай бұрын
Agreed, that show along woth the movies very much impacted and cemented some things that weren't in the comics before. They also impacted other movies, such as the Blade movies adapting the character of Whistler who debuted on the show originally.
@KasumiKenshirou3 ай бұрын
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp Didn't the idea of Blade being half human & half vampire start in that cartoon as well?
@KasumiKenshirou3 ай бұрын
Specifically, Venom's origin from the cartoon was used in the movie, since the original origin is tied to Secret Wars and is thus too complicated to fit into a movie. The Spiderverse also started in this cartoon, although it didn't have that stupid name.
@leonevelake3 ай бұрын
@KasumiKenshirou Nope. Or at least not really. They had their Episode come out first but they took that idea (and whistler ) from what they had been told about the movies script So they did take it from the movie but got their one out first
@williamdaviddiazcuchimaque75113 ай бұрын
Y raimi spiderman sirvió de base para spectacular spiderman
@lightspaceman50643 ай бұрын
It’s funny that he brings up Wolverines hair looking like his mask because the movies did that too. Because how else would you know it’s him? Comics need visual signifiers like that to make characters stand out. It’s why Jim Lee’s designs are still getting used and the black leather looks hopelessly 90s in retrospect. Same goes for Cyclops having contacts. The most important part of his design is that you can’t see his eyes. It’s like if you made Matt Murdock blond with blue glasses. Now he’s some other guy.
@enzovulkoor3 ай бұрын
I hope with the hype on 97. This forces a reverse situation where xmen 97 starts to shape the tone and setup for the movies.
@kbar44623 ай бұрын
It's interesting how much apathy Grant had for Marvel vs the reverence he has for DC properties in many later interviews. It's like a night and day difference
@ProjektTaku3 ай бұрын
In all fairness, no Marvel character aside from maybe Spider-Man and Captain America can match the legacy and iconography of DC's characters. Of course there's Superman and Batman, but even Marvel's most popular speedster Quicksilver can't match The Flash in terms of pop culture impact or just day-to-day conversations.
@sboinkthelegday38923 ай бұрын
Or to avoid looking like a prick, he prefers Tyres from Spaced or Sketchy from Dark Angel. We Are The Cyclists from 11 years ago.
@leafyishereisdumbnameakath42593 ай бұрын
The movies making Magneto being purple and red instead of red and purple was a good change. It didn't stick but still
@veggiewillymass3 ай бұрын
20:57 “It edged to close to the sun.” - CasuallyComics 2024
@WhiteRaven6963 ай бұрын
My favorite quirk is that the movies renamed Rogue to Marie D’Ancanto, so the comics introduced Marie D’Ancanto… and then did nothing with her.
@franknova9873 ай бұрын
Bryan's mentality reminded me of the Double Dragons movie director being angry telling the staff that its a movie for kids even tho the game had allot of adult themes....
@jadenbryant92833 ай бұрын
yeah it just fucking confuses me to all hell and it's ironic too since he actually was a fan of superman and that movie wasn't critically received
@jinxie7123 ай бұрын
And it's sad that he still had that mentality all the way up to Apocalypse. In an interview, he was asked about Apocalypse growing big and Singer said it would look stupid like King Kong swatting at planes. He kinda did it in a mind palace, but him saying that showed where his head was. Now I'm wondering if Marvel stopped him from doing it because Civil War did it with GiAnt-man. And that came out a few weeks before.
@seraph23823 ай бұрын
Was I the only one who saw the bloopers and was anticipating a cartoonish "Al-vIIIIINNN", a la the cartoon about the chipmunks?
@senojor3 ай бұрын
Me too!
@espyname19773 ай бұрын
Yes. This.
@brucebanana44863 ай бұрын
I feel that Comics aren't only being affected by the movies. Pretty much all cartoons take inspiration from X-Men films like Evolution, anime, and Wolverine & X-Men.
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp3 ай бұрын
Evolution did the best job with Cyclops and Jean, especially with no forced love triangle. Wolverine as a mentor worked so well.
@brucebanana44863 ай бұрын
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp there was a love triangle, but Logan isn't in it. Plus, it would be weird for a teacher to chase a teenage girl in the show. They replaced Logan with Rogue in the love triangle.
@lanternsown35253 ай бұрын
It's cool that Hugh Jackman read the comics I wonder what his reaction was when he found out Logan's comic book counterparts actual height.
@77redrum773 ай бұрын
Magneto, before having a psychic "battle" with Xavier: "The Helmet stays ON"
@aproposreeve3 ай бұрын
I think you should do a video like this for Superman and how the many, adaptations have added to to Clark's lore.
@Red-Wolf-Ben3 ай бұрын
Yes!!! That would be awesome!!!
@fad233 ай бұрын
I've been thinking a lot lately about how much Raven from the Teen Titans has changed especially since the cartoon twenty years ago. I'm not exactly sure what happened in the comics since then, but her character is SO different, even when Marv Wolfman is writing.
@Dougeb73 ай бұрын
What sass you have to put up with. Alvin, go to your room! LOL!
@Bato-Goji3 ай бұрын
He certainly had some thoughts he wanted to share :)
@azuritemoon3 ай бұрын
That Is His Room!
@CieJe.Alexander2 ай бұрын
AL-VINNN!!!! _Dave Seville
@jckun1003 ай бұрын
How ironic for Singer to not want childish things around...
@miguelvelez72213 ай бұрын
I bow to you and the Buddha nature in you. 😂
@Nightman221k3 ай бұрын
Ooh burn! 🔥
@LukeLovesRose3 ай бұрын
You know how many other perverts work in the entertainment industry, including the comics??
@JamesHowlettii3 ай бұрын
Michael Jackson wanting to play Professor X is wild 1:01 😂 I *_LOVE_* the King (R.I.P🕊️) and his love of comics but.. no Cyclops wearing contacts could never work. He'd need both eyes wide open to put them in and everything around him would get destroyed, not to mention the lense flying off his finger due to the potency of the optic blast
@uranuslad98553 ай бұрын
Scott could NOT wear contacts! Scott was the ultimate nerd back in the day! He HAD to wear "glasses" or he would destroy everything around him! Glasses wearers could RELATE! Plus, Jean chose HIM over rich, beautiful Warren, who had angelic wings and NO glasses! Nerdboy nirvana!
@thetux4593 ай бұрын
The Magneot helmet thing definitely benefits fto. The precedence of the Juggernaut helmet.
@parkerboy7953 ай бұрын
And both of their histories with Charles.
@KasumiKenshirou3 ай бұрын
14:27 The "..what happens when a toad gets struck by lightning?" line was one of Joss Whedon's. Whedon wrote a stupid line and then blamed the actress for "saying it wrong".
@fishnewt13313 ай бұрын
Things I remember that the movies inserted into the public consciousness: •Cerebro is dangerous for weaker unskilled telepaths. Seriously. We even have non-telepaths using it in the comics. •Phoenix is Jean Grey’s alter ego. Not technically against canon based on Claremont’s og story, but it wasn’t current canon at the time. •Jean Grey is the most powerful mutant to exist. Honestly, it depends on the context one means. But anyone that dismisses the Phoenix will readily point out this is in contention with characters like Legion or Nate Grey existing. •Rogue’s main power is her drain. Not technically incorrect, but most comic and cartoon fans remember Rogue for her flight and strength. Thank 97 for bringing this back to the public consciousness. •Magneto’s helmet blocks telepathy. Already discussed in the video. •Black is cool. Dated time period. What can we say? Thank the MCU for undoing the damage. •Magneto is primarily ferrokinetic (moves metal). Not incorrect, but anyone who has seen the comics or cartoon knows that is only a fraction of what he can do. •Mystique is a Brotherhood member. Very odd to think about in retrospect if you grew up with the movies. •Magneto helped Charles build Cerebro. Unless I’m mistaken, there was never a reference of Magneto helping Charles build Cerebro until the movies. •Wolverine is better leader of the X-Men. Main character syndrome that annoys Cyclops and Storm fans to no end. •Pyro and Iceman’s rivalry. Honestly, this is more of an opposite elemental trope that just feels right. But it is not a highlight in the comics. •Jean is receptive of Wolverine’s flirting somewhat. In the comics, Jean is a lot more apprehensive. She is friendly with Wolverine, but she does not exactly return his affections, save for one moment and it is met with immediate regret. The movies display Jean liking Logan’s comments a lot more, even bantering back a little.
@AdamYJ3 ай бұрын
Mystique is more often a Brotherhood leader. As were Magneto and Toad, come to think of it. Sabretooth (at the time more of a solo act or Marauder at the time) who was the odd one out.
@Iffem3 ай бұрын
i mean, Rouge's main power IS her drain... the flight and strength are things she sucked out of Miss Marvel (as in the current Captain Marvel, Carol Danvers) with her drain
@gringles3 ай бұрын
I really hate the way they write Jean and Logan. He used to be a man that pushed boundaries, not a nice person. Let him cross the line one too many times and have Scott plant Logan thirty feet in the Earth with concussive fafo blasts.
@TimmyDisorder3 ай бұрын
Dude, Rogue got her Superman powers from Carol Danvers. Think of how much a Ms. Captain Marvel version of Rogue would’ve broken the movies.
@davidtauriainen91163 ай бұрын
Magneto's helmet blocking telepathy was probably a conflation with Juggy's helmet.
@Skaramine3 ай бұрын
Frank Quietly drew Wolverine as "Smoochy." I couldn't stop laughing at how this was supposed to resemble Hugh Jackman. Also, Cyclops can't push his own hand with his optical blasts, so he could put in contacts. He'll smash the entire room during the process, but he could put them in.
@negligible_reality3 ай бұрын
I'm just really glad that we're in an era where comic accurate costumes in adaptations aren't seen as "too silly" or like something that needs to be "fixed". Comic accurate costumes can look very cool and striking if done correctly and taken seriously, especially with some minor tweaks to account for the shift in medium. I'll never not laugh at X-Men '97 poking fun at the old movies for poking fun at the costumes from the comics, that line was hilarious! Also Wolverine FINALLY getting his iconic costume for the first time in film for Deadpool and Wolverine! Now I know a lot of people didn't like the costume revealed for James Gunn's Superman movie, but personally I kinda like it; it's not perfect, but I think it's pretty good. Here's hoping we can get a comic accurate Batman suit when The Brave and The Bold comes out too, now that would be really cool to see.
@adamfrey49203 ай бұрын
Funny note: the final issue of the second What If series, Rogue's name is "Carol," presumably from adopting Ms. Marvel's background. It's not explained further, so, that.
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp3 ай бұрын
There was a comic that took place 25 years after the original Secret Wars and Rogue had a daughter with Captain America. It was revealed that it was actually Carol in the driver's seat
@SimonBuchanNz3 ай бұрын
"People got over it! ... Most people got over it!" *Somebody* didn't get over it! 😋
@gringles3 ай бұрын
Guilty 🫡
@BobbyMoore2-mp8wb3 ай бұрын
Wolverine vs Lady Deathstrike was awesome 😎
@KainGerc3 ай бұрын
too bad that she's barely a character in the movies. (among others like Sabretooth, for example)
@theotakux59593 ай бұрын
Annoying that the only movie to get the MCU's designation right so far is an animated Spider-Man movie. Come on, people, calling it Earth 616 in Far From Home was supposed to be a hint that Mysterio was lying, not the actual designation.
@weathermangohanssj43 ай бұрын
If you are to "yell" at a pet named such you got to hit us with at least one full Dave "ALLLLVIN"
@GenerationWest3 ай бұрын
When comics were pushed under Hugh Jackman's door, it was done my a just starting out producer, Kevin Feige, hell, he fought for Wolverine's hair. When the movie and Ultimate Universe were coming out, I got the merch and sought every piece of news when it was coming out. I instantly knew something was changing for the X-Men and Spider-Man, even when I was 7 and 8 at the time, but I couldn't be more happier! Looking back, it was a double edged sword, because we were never getting he more outlandish stuff done with justice. (The cat blooper got me anxious, because my cat of the past several months won't shut up at times... I can't do it!)
@fredcampbell40663 ай бұрын
At times longtime fans feel neglected and unappreciated .
@robertstull87593 ай бұрын
There's a twisted irony to Bryan Singer banning something from the set because it was "too juvenile"
@KasumiKenshirou3 ай бұрын
😄
@ethansloan3 ай бұрын
lol
@belgiumcomics25373 ай бұрын
Is there something else about Bryan Singer that i don't know?
@TragoudistrosMPH3 ай бұрын
That's disturbing...and disturbing that I'd never heard about that...
@jado4prez2 ай бұрын
@@belgiumcomics2537he’s a pdf file
@BigBadWolframio3 ай бұрын
What did Alvin want? That's the truly important question.
@CasuallyComics3 ай бұрын
lol he had strong opinions on the X-Men.
@kinginthenorth14373 ай бұрын
We don't need to attract the only people that actually read comics to read our comic is a wild take.
@NeightrixPrime3 ай бұрын
Singer's derangement about the source material really explains why Magneto was a frail old man willing to sacrifice Rogue to turn humans into mutants. I don't believe there's any version of Magneto who would do that.
@miguelvelez72213 ай бұрын
I refer you to Morrison's quote about Magneto. He isn't the Palestinians he's the Israeli government.
@williamdaviddiazcuchimaque75113 ай бұрын
El ultimate lo haria
@BionAvastar30003 ай бұрын
@@miguelvelez7221 Well Magneto is canonically jewish and was in concentration camps during n a zi germany.
@akale26202 ай бұрын
@@miguelvelez7221so hes not a terrorist?
@Natboy1293 ай бұрын
It would be interesting to see you discuss the other films and how they differ/influenced the comics, especially with Mystique and how she changed so much. I feel like theres potentially a videos worth of talking points on her alone from the design to the actresses and of course the storyline.
@thetux4593 ай бұрын
"Science that science" with Cyclops's powers? Every time the comics do that his powers just get more convoluted. We're dealing with portals to a kinetic force dimension whose particles vanish on contact with ruby quarts or the flesh of a subset of the Summers family and bounce off surfaces when convenient. That said, on the surface, the contacts would work once they are in given the lore. However, they are way less practical since his eyes have to be open when putting them in and taking them out. That means unshielded punch cannons until each contact is in place.
@euansmith36993 ай бұрын
From what I understand; when Cyclops opens his eyes, Ray Palmer (The Atom) flies out of them and punches people. He punches really hard, because he is emerging from the Snyderverse, with the rage of a billion exploding suns.
@ProjektTaku3 ай бұрын
@@euansmith3699 Did he just make a reference to Cyclops, The Atom, The Snyderverse and The Sentry?
@euansmith36993 ай бұрын
@@ProjektTaku 😃
@gunfighter0093 ай бұрын
Imo it makes sense they don't effect the skin of members of the summers family, that's how they don't rip through Scott's eyelids
@thatHARVguy3 ай бұрын
@@gunfighter009 Cyclops and Havok blasting each other is the equivalent of a slap-fight for a panel, before they resort to fists.
@jakepent37103 ай бұрын
On the cyclops contacts point, if the glasses arent constant being knocked off, i dont see why contacts would, although sticking "ruby quartz" into your eyes does not sound comfortable
@DrFranklynAnderson3 ай бұрын
There are days I think “If only we could somehow make a bunch of world leaders disabled, all at once. Then they’d understand our problems firsthand and make stronger accessibility laws.” Then I remember that’s literally Magneto’s evil plan from the first X-Men movie. 😅
@qdllc2 ай бұрын
I never understood his flippant dismissal of how his device killed the senator. It would make more sense if he accused Storm of making it up.
@akale26202 ай бұрын
The y in your name really pisses me off
@DrFranklynAnderson2 ай бұрын
@@akale2620 Lol, it was meant to indicate that I’m a chick. Dr. Franklin Anderson was a character in a podcast but he was a dude, so I changed it to match the woman’s name Lynn. Hasn’t helped-most of the time people assume I’m a guy, and I’ve even gotten some medical questions from people who think I’m a real doctor. At this point I’ve had it so long I’m too stubborn to change, much like my old default icon.
@akale26202 ай бұрын
@@DrFranklynAnderson 2 things. 1. Shoulda gone with a actually famous char, no one knows it's a joke or reference, your not exactly calling yourself Tony stark here. 2. If it's like Lynn if that's your real name, franklynn perhaps.
@Cycemout3 ай бұрын
Ruby Quartz Contacts would probably work like a "1 and Done" situation . Like they wouldn't be useful for combat but if Scott and Jean were on a date or something and Scott accidentally got mad and fired off an Optic Blast the contacts would withstand the initial blast but if he fired them off again they would undoubtedly shatter. I've thought about this exact idea way more than I'd like to admit but Cyclops is my favorite alongside Storm and Iceman 😆
@gringles3 ай бұрын
I think the contacts would just negate the blasts like his glasses do, since his powers are always active.
@BlueEXEVideos3 ай бұрын
I was expecting a Chipmonks style "ALLVIIIIN!!" at the end there
@waynenubile53 ай бұрын
X2 is my favorite X-men movie. I liked the topic about the 2000 X-men movie. My mother went and saw the movie, which surprised me since she never like me reading comics so obsessively. After she saw the movie she said "I now know why you like comics" and she said it was great movie. The fact that the 2000 X-men movie appealed to my mother of all people, really shows the when handled well, the X-men stories can go mainstream. I loved the Ultimate X-men comics.
@jamessatter74183 ай бұрын
I like your idea about contacts for Cyclops. Here's the catch. He can close his eyes, which also turns off his powers, while slipping on glasses or a visor to block his power. But putting in contacts requires keeping his eyes open. With his eyes open, his powers would activate before he could put in the contacts. Not sure if slipping in the contacts would effectively block his powers while they are already active. It would be interesting to test.
@joshuasanderson73593 ай бұрын
I saw that flash to Cassandra Nova womb punch on "punchy" and your editor should be applauded for it
@euansmith36993 ай бұрын
"... time of recording, for all of this. Maybe some of these don't exist any more." 😄😄😄
@TheMaster48633 ай бұрын
Ruby contacts wouldn't work for Cyclops because he'd have to take them out and put them back in again every time he beamed and that would also mean he's always going full power, I like to think there's a dial or something on his visor that controls how much force he's using
@thatHARVguy3 ай бұрын
The Official Marvel Handbook has schematics detailing how the Visor's Ruby Quartz plates can control the arrangement, from narrow to wide beam discharge. So, yes.
@KasumiKenshirou3 ай бұрын
@@thatHARVguy And he's also got pressure sensitive switches in his gloves. That was explained in one of the few X-Men comics I have read: a reprint of an old issue from back when Stan Lee was still working on it.
@2nd3rd1st3 ай бұрын
What I want a deep dive on is why did Jim Lee's Wolverine and Jubilee have the same hair color as Beast's fur.
@Iffem3 ай бұрын
blue is often added as a highlight colour to purely black things, because otherwise you end up with a big unreadable black blob it's such a thing that manga does it, too
@lordsxman3 ай бұрын
Alvin gives no effs. He wants his snacks now!
@dallasgrey42474 күн бұрын
Rogue was really effected by the movie. Not only in getting a name, but they started to draw her skinnier, make the white streak even smaller, and in adaptations make her more visibly scared in her powers.
@JSRLPadre3 ай бұрын
As horrendous and deserved as Joss Whedon's fall from grace was, his run on Astonishing X-Men was a solid rebuke of both Bryan Singer's and Grant Morrison's interpretations of Marvel's Merry Mutants. Not that New was totally off. It did find very interesting beats and angles that still resonate to this day.
@Beliasa013 ай бұрын
The solo Wolverine comic, from 2001, depicted him somewhat in physical appearance to his movie counterpart. 159 was my first comic, so seeing him going back to his comic accurate appearance was a mindtrip.
@gamecitysavior29103 ай бұрын
Cyclops constantly blasting the contact out of his hand 😂... it's impossible for him to even put in on without Jean.
@Ioannis-malewitch3 ай бұрын
My first introduction to X-Men was watching the animated series with my older brother where he was like "my favourite is wolverine and he's in love with Jean but she is dating this guy and I want her to be with wolverine" so when I saw the film it was like he had pitched it, making wolverine the main character and Jean clearly preferring him over Cyclops 😅. Also my beloved Anna Paquin inspired Rogue's name? I'm impressed!
@toonman50993 ай бұрын
Please more cat bloopers. Love that you named him Alvin, can I guess you were influenced by the same name of the chipmunk variety? lol
@jamesbunt68463 ай бұрын
Maybe the helmet blocking telepathy was inspired by the Juggernaut's helmet.
@DanielBMaximoff3 ай бұрын
I flippin love Ray Park's Toad
@originalscreenname443 ай бұрын
Was not expecting this to be a follow up to the New X-Men video but it was a great discussion point. One thing I will like to point out is a feedback loop that exists between the Fox X-Men movies and the 616 Universe. As we all know, the movie had influence on New X-Men. Then New X-Men introduced the character Negasonic Teenaged Warhead in the first arc. Years later, Deadpool incorporated a character by that name but with a completely different powerset (the one in the comics was likely a clairvoyant while the one in the movies was a stand-in for Cannonball). Finally, the main comic universe resurrected the character but with the Deadpool look and powerset.
@coreybass32313 ай бұрын
8:46 Kinda...It's been established that ruby quartz and his skin are able to absorb the concussive force of his blasts. So he would be able to put in ruby quartz contacts because they wouldn't just shoot out when he opens his eyes or when he's trying to put them in. But the thing is that the beams don't come from his irises or pupils. They shoot out from the whole eyeball or the dimensional portals that opens up when he opens his eyelids. So even if he did wear contacts, they really wouldn't do a thing to stop the beams from coming out. At the most, he'd just punch donut holes into objects. EDIT: But I really, really wish that superhero books didn't try to emulate movies and video games and television and didn't follow that trend back in the aughts. Its bad enough that they didn't have advertisements for comics and comic shops at the beginning and end of those adaptations and that there wasn't a serious effort to put comics into more places than bookstores and comic shops, but I feel like this (Marvel and the Industry at large) need to be more like other entertainment properties just made it easier to make comics invisible. But that's the problem when comics are defined by one genre, and the companies that produce the most of that genre are branching out to other places. Comics are their own thing. Their own medium with their own advantages in storytelling and visuals. They shouldn't be defined as supplemental or secondary or outright inferior to other forms of entertainment or other mediums.
@Hello-bi1pm3 ай бұрын
Well, they want synergy to boost comic sales, but end up doing the opposite
@gringles3 ай бұрын
His powers being tied to another dimension is a writers myth started in the 80s. Cyclops powers are to absorb ambient energy, convert it and expel it from his eyes. There are issues where he runs out of energy and needs to recharge, as well as maxing out and needing to expel some energy. There are psionic abilities tied into the mix which is how his body is protected from this energy and I believe he utilizes the psionic field to send the blasts out of his eyes.
@coreybass32313 ай бұрын
@@gringles It's called a "retcon", not a "writer's myth". Writer's myth implies that the writers and/or audience are injecting concepts into the story that go against the will of the editors and Marvel, and that ain't true and hasn't been for a long time. Even though any sense of a "hard canon" to things was limited, as more and more fans become creators in Marvel and the pay and contracts got worse, more and more retcons have been applied from arc to arc or even from issue to issue or team/book to team/book based off whoever is writing and what got them social media views and kept them on the books and paid. And (since the 2000's at the earliest) there hasn't been a sense of the editorial staff actually sitting down and figuring out what is and what isn't canon and what the actual past and future are for their characters and stories beyond...basically the same criteria but favoring Marvel the company and their own paychecks. Even though Marvel staff has always been a constantly changing crew of freelance (and contract) writers and artists contributing and changing different aspects of these character's lives and abilities, there still needed to be a story and character bible to things to keep it straight and to give a sense of real direction and growth to the books. So, fine. Cyclops' eyes no longer have a portal that opens to a near-infinite source of energy. But calling it a "writer's myth" gives the illusion of cohesion and thoughtfulness and consideration that isn't there and hasn't been there for decades. And just feels really, really insulting. Yeah, I'm going to shut up now.
@edwardzimmerman34833 ай бұрын
Not the X-Men, But Spider-man... I really like the way they've made Norman Osborn look like Tommy Lee Jones...
@joelpartee5942 ай бұрын
Willem Dafoe would’ve been a perfect model for emphasizing the Mad Genius, but Jones was definitely right for the leader of Dark Avengers.
@dark3rthanshadows3 ай бұрын
Ngl i started reading comics during the early 00's and i started with Ultimate Spiderman and Ultimate X-men and know gave a lot of context .
@crazylegs5k3 ай бұрын
Love the “Cat Bloopers” bonus reel 😂
@CrossOutBryce3 ай бұрын
14:40 I JUST found out Magneto was named Max/Magnus because of X-Men 97. I really did know him as only Erik before that!
@andrefantin8323 ай бұрын
The contrast between the clips of Morrison's run and the text of the manifesto gives me life
@Franwub3 ай бұрын
You know when they gave rogue a name, Anne Marie Rankin, given her ability to absorb powers, I really thought they would say she was related to Calvin Rankin, Mimic with the ability to copy powers and in the comics rogue already has an expansive family history, Mystique adoptive/surrogate mother, Nightcrawler as surrogate/foster brother, Destiny as other mother, Mystiques other son Graydon Creed, and his father, Sabertooth it's a large family and we all know X-Men is a soap opera
@mattprather31403 ай бұрын
Some of the things that different creators come up with when given the same basic premise are amazing. I know the Superman franchise was greatly influenced by the radio show...
@chuckenigma3 ай бұрын
A whole video on the changes the 1st X-men movie had on the comics & not once ever bring up X-men Forever by Nicieza & Maguire: the series specifically made to implement movie changes to current continuity (and also clear out a whole lot of open plots).
@gamelairtim3 ай бұрын
I love the idea of ruby quartz contacts. Depending on what part of the eye the blasts emit from, we know they don’t impart velocity to his goggles. The hard part would be moving the lenses aside when you want to fire and moving them back when you don’t. Nanotechnology could do it, but otherwise I don’t like the idea of having some kind of mechanical shutter on your eyes.
@abelhernandez78093 ай бұрын
The hilarious part about Morrison invoking Buffy is that Joss Whedon wrote Astonishing X-Men, the first thing he did was to bring back the costumes.
@Kinma153 ай бұрын
the helmet letting magneto psychically fight Charles explains the beam struggle they have in one of the jp openings of the 90s show
@TwinRiver1003 ай бұрын
didn't know about what you were saying about Magneto's helmet. i just assumed it was always a blocker for telepathy. didn't know it took the movie to come up with that idea. that was a pretty useful change to the comics, I like that.
@calculusaffair3 ай бұрын
I was 16 when New X-Men hit the stands. Social media and online wasn’t really a thing where I lived so I had no idea what I was looking at, had to check the number under the new logo a few times for New X-Men 114. Definitely felt like a sea change at the time
@55itsme3 ай бұрын
When readers don't know 70 years of continuity (which should probably be called backstory), it's the writer's job to fill us in on the pertinent information to make the story they're telling understandable. When the writers and editors are unfamiliar with the backstories of the characters they're writing they make bad choices about what information should be conveyed. I personally think it's a very difficult job to take over writing a book that has that much history. Some writers and editors simply did not read enough of the back issues (they didn't research the characters they were going to write) to be qualified for the job. It's not continuity's fault.
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp3 ай бұрын
I really appreciate the Xmen films since they have such a different feel from the MCU and often felt more mature in some regards.
@AussieDragoon3 ай бұрын
On the terms of Bleed-back or synergy with outside media, I usually think its a good idea, not to be beholden to one or the other, but taking what works from new adaptations and making it work in the original continuity. The point of adaptations are to reach a new audience after all and if it makes them interested in checking out the original work you want the transition to be as smooth as possible. Also some notes on how the X-Men film affected the comics, they (and X-Men Evolution to an extent) lead to Rogue losing her Ms. Marvel powers in the comics and she wouldn't get her flying brick powers back until like 2013-14ish. Also Mystique took on her movie look in X-Men Forever #6 and I guess canon-wise just shapshifts back into her classic look because she likes it more. And a big one is Wolverine's Origin being told in full in the comics because they thought the movies would eventually do it anyway so they wanted to get ahead of it.
@na55673 ай бұрын
Ah the 90s. All black leather. Which reminds me... DANNY KETCH RETROSPECTIVE #KETCHROSPECTIVE
@thomasraines13963 ай бұрын
It really sucks that Danny gets largely ignored, especially everything associated the Rider he did first.
@na55673 ай бұрын
@@thomasraines1396 Danny is Marvel's Wally West in that regard. 2nd (technically 3rd) mantle holder, invent everything iconic about the mantle, then the OG comes back, steals your fit, powers, and villains and everyone forgets you.
@thomasraines13963 ай бұрын
@@na5567 damn that sucks.
@hawktriad3 ай бұрын
In X-Men First Class, Sebastian Shaw wore the helmet and Magneto took it from him after his death. Shaw bragged about the helmet blocking from telepathic attack.
@darkmask59333 ай бұрын
Since you're talking about X-men here, I'd love to see you talk about X-men who joined the core team, I don't mean like one-offs, but actual like regular members that no one really talks about anymore. I was thinking about a mutant named Chamber, who I guess has sort of a similar power to Cyclops, some sort of concussive energy power, that ended up blowing out his torso and the bottom of his jaw, and he was like a main leaguer on the X-men team for awhile and like no one ever talks about him. Heck, you could even make an argument Angel could fit in that, yeah, everyone knows who Angel is, but when was the last time you really saw Angel as like a main member of the X-men team? Yet he was part of the original team!
@hawktalon78902 ай бұрын
Always fun to hear people more knowledgeable than me talk about the X-Men/Marvel in general because, man, I can name a single-digit number of them off the top of my head. And also big team books tire me out to the point where I sometimes find animation a better segue into getting me to learn about the characters; movies and shows are a little more condensed than a 70-issue series with a billion PoVs. I don't know where to start with this team. I guess you could say I'm more of a DC fan, but I didn't really grow up with that either seeing as I was poor. Spent the past 5 years trying to play catch-up on everything I missed.
@FN64Productions3 ай бұрын
@5:20 Yes! It was always weird to me that the Marvel & Dave Cockrum (artist) were like "How will they know its wolverine with out the mask?" "The other characters will call him logan?" "NO! BUT...his hair should look like his mask, print it! Excelsior!"
@BlackLaval3 ай бұрын
Awesome video! Although I lived through it, I hadn't realized at how extent Synger's films influenced the comics.
@Coldspider8013 ай бұрын
Nightcrawler makes a point of removing Magneto's helmet in X-men 87 (1999) and refers back to doing it in Uncanny 113. That's the earliest reference to that being his weakness that I know of.
@dynamicpiece3 ай бұрын
Seeing Storm work with Magneto to defeat the Sentinels in Days of Future Past always make the hairs on my arm stand. It was an awesome moment. Also I like to think that when Storm looks back at Magneto as he starts moving the jet in that scene, is not because she can hear him moving the Jet but because she can sense him manipulating the magnetic field. Which is a detail I find to be delightful.
@tximinoman2 ай бұрын
About the helmet thing; Claremont insisted a lot in the idea that telepathy could be fought against with enough training, which IMO is far more interesting than the helmet thing. First of all; if people can resist telepathy with enough training, it makes telepaths way less OP, secondly why Professor X and Jean Grey don't just "shut down" whatever threat they're facing. It also explains why telepaths aren't the most sought out spies in the Marvel universe because every high profile person has some level of telepathy training that shields them from attacks from random telepaths.
@akimmel69413 ай бұрын
I believe that the contacts could block the blasts, as it is still a barrier. It does not seem that he could shoot, though. He could take one out and target with the other then wink at things.🤔🤔