This Game Will Make You Love Nath

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

I SEE NATH. I CLICK LIKE.

[@nellesdeconinck8443]

Who's in charge of the comments on your channel haha

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

@@nellesdeconinck8443 Dylan

[@cameronlancaster7596]

“Apparently [Thoracle] does more than win the game” That joke got me

[@PlussGoodFun]

Spoiler Nate having to actually double check what Oracle did other than win the game fucking sent me

[@JohnDoe-df7bl]

This implies that there are people who don't love Nath.

[@Starcraftgamer97]

I love seeing combat not fueled by an infinite combo win the day in a Competitive CEDH game.

[@johnvanzandt8208]

It has been a ton of fun seeing love for Nath in cedh games.

[@Sliver_Boi]

I'm really glad he's getting time in the spotlight. Started making the deck 2 years ago and I've been slowly fine tuning and spicing it up to what it is now.

[@P4CCHU]

@@Sliver_Boi Let me tell you that you made a beautiful deck!

[@Sliver_Boi]

@@P4CCHU thank you :) it's been a lot of work getting it to where it is.

[@videowiz22]

i have been working on improving my nath deck and this game just makes me love the direction my deck is going that much more. its an incredibly fun deck to play and quite strong and seeing him get so much love across multiple channels is super awesome

[@SamuelKacerik]

I like how Nate had to check what Oracle actually does except winning the game.

[@gravecrawler1629]

That final swing was nothing short of RUTHLESS.

[@jsum33]

So glad to see Nath shine. She's been getting a lot of play on Play to Win.

[@filippodardi2180]

An emblem in a cEDH game? That's plain rich X) Great content as always!

[@Sliver_Boi]

I've actually got that emblem out more times than my friends would like to admit. No one expects or can deal with the spicy planeswalker tech lol.

[@filippodardi2180]

@@Sliver_Boi that's grand! Been lovin M21 Lily since spoiler season, glad to see she got some time under the sun

[@iPhonix07]

Damn that nath deck went off! Also 2 wins denied in the same game. Very fun to watch

[@marxmeesterlijk]

I just started Cedh, and started with Nath. So i'm very excited!

[@marxmeesterlijk]

@@JJMickeyMedia (hacker voice) *i'm in*

[@DanTomY93]

This video was GAS, great game! Just a check though, the commentary implied that you were using Rankle as an "on attack" trigger. But it's an "on damage" trigger. Pretty sure it didn't make a difference to the game, mind! You guys rock!

[@Sliver_Boi]

Oops good catch. Yeah I think it was some misswording, happens a lot with my wierd off meta cards I play in my decks lol

[@somefishhere]

Not a usual title? I mean, if you are recommending this video so much I will watch it! Thanks a million Joseph! Edit: Your intro says as much, its a special episode! I'm excited

[@keller3225]

1:45 CONSULTATIOON

[@cortezmonaro2714]

I am very exciting to see new Anje builds, 7 more madness cards))

[@AlexOvTheAbyss]

Having to read Thassa's Oracle to know what it actually does says so much about that boring combo.

[@TCG9777]

No it doesn't

[@MekanikKommandoh88]

Yawn.

[@AlexOvTheAbyss]

@@MekanikKommandoh88 Glad someone else has the same reaction when they hear "consultation" as a wincon :3

[@nicholasdisher5313]

I'm a simple man. I see Nath and I like.

[@marcelozapata93]

This was a joy to watch!

[@Lazergician]

Take a shot every time Joseph says "with nothing left, he passes the turn to " :D

[@the_enamelator]

I already loved Nath... Now i double love.

[@P4CCHU]

I already love Nath, let's check this out

[@orsettomorbido]

That very last turn, lmao. Cool game!

[@hectormorales4090]

oh yeah... this was crazy... gimme moarrrr !!!

[@stevendurbin2320]

I know they somewhat addressed it in the beginning but I didn't see Adam discarding any cards off Liliana's +1 anytime he used it and only 1 Rankle discard. That's a huge advantage he got during the game. Granted it was the lack of other players having cards that really did it, but that seems really crazy to overlook.

[@Sliver_Boi]

Awesome you noticed. I've been really working on learning to plan my my turns and use my mana as efficiently as I can so that when I have universal discard effects out, like the planeswalkers and rankle, I don't get hit as hard as my opponents.

[@MstrKipper]

@@Sliver_Boi I think he was more pointing out the misplays for the future, since Lilli hits each player

[@ADVBCAT]

I gave it a re-watch and I'm pretty sure he was just empty-handed all those times? It can be a bit hard to follow what's going on with rankle/geier reach/chains and they don't narrate every little case of chains making him mill etc, but as far as I can tell he was just playing his 1 naturally drawn card per turn for most of the game.

[@penguindrummer252]

Would be lying if I said that I watch a ton of CeDH but I'm dumbfounded that this is the first time I've seen ghostly pilferer played anywhere, including more casual tables as well.

[@magicthe7]

During the turn at 20:20 Adam could have won the game on the spot by instead reanimating spellseeker, finding demonic tutor to grab witherbloom apprentice to combo with his chain of smog.

[@Sliver_Boi]

Damn that would've been sweet. Way to big brain for me though lol. I'll have to remember lines like that if i get into a situation like this again. That would be sweet to pull off

[@thetimebinder]

Always loved Nath.

[@lukasloetscher1037]

This looked so fun:)

[@WhiteBird13]

There's nothing casual about chains lol 😂

[@diegop.6365]

That Nath deck is just glorious... The Anje player tho, he needs to learn his deck imo

[@paulmcclain642]

This was an A+ game I enjoyed it a lot

[@TCG9777]

I've never seen Nath, so this is exciting!

[@jsum33]

Check out Play to Win those dudes have been doing great things for her in the most recent videos.

[@TCG9777]

@@jsum33 her?

[@Kadunz93]

Why is the Nath decklist only 94 cards (excluding the commander)?

[@Sliver_Boi]

Thats weird I'll have to look into that. It's my most updated list and should be 100 cards.

[@Xeno-MTG]

Alright I haven't seen the game yet, but I always love seeing Nath

[@7upac]

Alright I’m building nath right now lmao

[@MT_LeagueGaming7896]

Chains just messes up draw and discard mechanics but its totally worth it

[@thedeadfool1]

Does the narset planeswalker affect the chains? it should....

[@7upac]

I was wondering this, too. If it was their second draw, and they didn’t have any cards in hand, then chains would make them mill. However if it was their second draw and they did have at least one card in hand, then I believe narset would prevent the draw and thus prevent chains from triggering 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[@7upac]

@@thedeadfool1 ah yes i think you are correct! i knew i was forgetting an interaction

[@jlbrooks74]

great game

[@ma2zak589]

Anje was my first "combo"/non-creature damage deck. The mechanic is a lot of fun to play with. I am curious, do you think it is too fragile for ecdh? or is it worth trying to pump it up into a competitive deck? I'm currently not running any lotus or mox stuff, no shock lands.

[@Bammab127]

I love seeing Thoracle shut down. I really hate that win-con

[@smack80]

why not rotate the upper 2 battlefields so they are in the readable direction for the viewer?

[@Sliver_Boi]

We do that so it still has the feel of us playing at an actual table, either side facing each other.

[@connorcohen8519]

Wouldn't rankle's discard trigger activate before the draw trigger? So opponents wouldn't need to discard the card they draw in the 2nd mode?

[@olafthemoose9413]

Rankle's triggers resolve top down so yes, you"d have to discard, sac and then draw.

[@ADVBCAT]

Correct but if you're referring to a time when there was a Chains or Narset in play, obviously those mess it up.

[@bennyoreilly8048]

What’s does Hapatra do in Nath?

[@Sliver_Boi]

She can hose mana dork heavy decks if you drop her early and she is a really strong combo with yawgmoth that acts as a card draw boardwipe. Pay 1 life to draw a card ping a creature down. It's an easily tutorable combo with all the creature tutoring effects and both cards are relatively strong by themselves.

[@bennyoreilly8048]

@@Sliver_Boi Oh I didn't see Yawg in there. That makes sense. Thanks

[@somefishhere]

Playing pods with a Ruric Thar or Nath Stax is always fun. Or just a Rock Stax player

[@GodammitNappa]

@13:30 did Moo not have imps mischief in hand to redirect the pact to his own imps mischief? Thought he had that win but must have not seen him discard the mischief.

[@cmdrhideaway8948]

Imps got discarded. When I attempted to go infinite the first time I only had dance and what I drew for turn. - Moo

[@GodammitNappa]

@@cmdrhideaway8948 oh, I missed that, so close though!

[@mikestephens267]

That game was Nath-d.

[@angellopez6475]

I wish you guys uploaded your lists to moxfield as well, not sure if you are able to due to sponsorship, but it would be nice

[@TheOneAndOnlyCrawl]

Unanswered Rankle can be pretty disgusting

[@Prvosienko]

Moo wasn't exiling discarded cards with Bag of Holding.

[@koelkast9]

I also always forget to do this

[@cmdrhideaway8948]

Oops. Apologies. Luckily it was end of game and had no impact on me dying to my own world gorger LOL - Moo

[@TCG9777]

@15:40 couldn't MOO win the game there? Create infinite mana, cast the commander, tap it to discard and draw in response to the WGD, draw the Sunscorched Desert, and win with that land?

[@MoiselleTheFae]

Anything you do during the loop has to be at instant speed, which doesn't include playing Anje or a land. Moo would have to have a way to restart the loop either in hand or on the top of the deck. I'm honestly kind of surprised they went for it with no way to win in hand, even just an X spell to kill with.

[@桜場娃夜]

No, because the WGD is an instant speed loop, so you can't play sorcery speed spells like Anje, or a land like Desert in the middle of the loop. You really need Anje on the battlefield before entering the loop to draw the deck, or you need a big mana payoff in hand, like Torment of Hailfire. So, the Dance of the Dead wouldn't have won the game anyway.

[@TCG9777]

@@MoiselleTheFae You're absolutely correct, I dont know why I left that out of the equation XD

[@TCG9777]

@@桜場娃夜 you're correct! My brain lagged haha

[@cmdrhideaway8948]

When I went infinite it was more for the lulz then to try and win. at that point we couldn't keep any cards in hand so I was just top decking every turn. I figured might as well do what I can before I have to discard my last reanimator rather than do nothing. - Moo

[@nocturnwarrior7572]

Deck Osgir the reconstructor un Cedh? Tanks

[@KoiPondDreams]

It will make me love Nath? Jokes on you, I already love him! My favorite decks in EDH are Nath, Tergrid, and Windgrace.. In legacy I play loam pox. I have a specific taste I think.. Great games!!

[@7upac]

I love playing black stax pieces like contamination and oppression! I think I will turn my Tergrid deck into Nath. If not for the very simple reason that Tergrid is quite cumbersome to play online via apps like spelltable, and that Nath gives sac fodder for contamination :)))

[@KoiPondDreams]

@@7upac Yeah, nath is great for contamination, as well as things like smokestack as well! That is a good idea! He will also draw less hate (probably) than Tergrid will!

[@myrcandraw]

Should This Game Will Make You Love Rankle

[@AIMLESS-NAMELESS]

Why is nath everywhere now?

[@Closer2Zero]

“we play with some new cards this game“ -first deck is a consultation thassa zur deck- New cards. Righttttt.

[@noahgassler746]

"...and apparently, this does more than just win the game..." Shows you how overused Thassa's Oracle is. I hate it when things get overused.

[@MrTandtrollet]

The Nath decklist is onl 95 cards so....

[@eliasfajardo6148]

hilarious

[@WillianMates]

Curious control countered most win attempts, Nath can pretty much only get wins this way :/

[@barryswigart1432]

"Nath does Nath stuff early" 10 minutes in. Nath cast, Swords. Also, y'all out here fighting for chulane but really saying uh-dar-car.

[@tendo339]

finally a win without a stupid infinite combo. All cedh decks looks the same honestly with the basics 2-3 cobos, only the commander changes. Was a great game congrats

[@MekanikKommandoh88]

LOL no they don’t.

[@Sliver_Boi]

I have made quite an effort to have most of my cedh decks win through combat damage. Stax, control, some combo. But mainly they all have a very good route to take that wins by swinging out

[@halcyondays615]

A discard based commander deck? AIDS

[@Sliver_Boi]

I'm just making then discard all their broken cards. It's all fair magic up in here

[@aljames4205]

You are beautiful

[@gabecabral6691]

I enjoy the Chanel and all but it’s just not fun anymore seeing every deck win almost the exact same way with oracle and consultation or the dragon and animate dead

[@Sliver_Boi]

What about dragon and liliana animate emblem 😏 I gotta keep it spicy for the people

[@xChikyx]

please stop adding thassa's oracle to your decks

[@haramba506]

First.

[@andresugalde7624]

This is not even close to cedh