Cataclysm Holy Priest - A Complete Guide

[@unbr3akable688]

Spirit of Redemption fun fact: if you die while channeling Divine Hymn, your ghost will continue to channel the spell to its duration. edit* also I wish they'd remove the cd on Chakra. Would become a very interesting spec to play.

[@imTonedeaf15]

Excellent guide. You’ve earned a sub and will earn many more. Straight forward, accurate information. Nice work.

[@doublezug7193]

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[@politelyupset]

Good thing about Holy priest: It's fun! Bad thing about Holy priest: My RL won't ever believe me it's better than Resto dru, and let me switch my Disc OS to Holy OS.

[@albeshino8875]

Been waiting for this one! Loved it.

[@lightxwater]

well well well what do we have here :)

[@doublezug7193]

impostor syndrome on this one ngl I feel like theres more theorycrfting to do but I'm lazy

[@DownsyMB]

Hey man, we all know(at least those of us on Whitemane) lightwater is the man he just didn't share his hpriest tech with the world XD

[@hgwilli1660]

3:43 Can someone explain why most guides exclude 10m. I just did a sanity check to make sure I am not crazy. Number of parses for all dps specs over the past 2 weeks on wow logs is 293,216 for heroic 25m and 203,260 for heroic 10m. While 10m is substantially lower than 25m I don't feel like it is justified to completely ignore. Might just me raging as someone who prefers 10m, but I feel like it is underrepresented in guides based on the size of the player base.

[@doublezug7193]

I havent played enough 10m to comment authoritatively. Most of the healers play very similarly between the two modes. Hpriest is very similar youll just tend more towards spot healing and poh rather than renew given how total player count affects damage distribution/renew target cap/etc. and how you cant lean as hard into a niche the fewer healers there are in the raid.

[@dotexe3426]

I focus more single target healing in 10man as Holy Priest. Just spam renew on targets that take damage and use Prayer of Mending on CD on one of the tanks then use Serenity on players that take big chunk damage and use it on CD cause its super cheap mana and great single target heal that compares to word of glory from hpally

[@WernTheDRUID]

The legend is back

[@whitemagick4]

Echo of Light (mastery) is super useful. It's usually 8-10% of my healing. It works with all your spells besides Renew but procs with Divine Touch (renew instant heal talent). The description says direct spells but it always affects all your CoH, Holy Word: Sanctuary and PoH targets. The infuriating thing is that when you are in Chakra: Serenity, it says that renew is refreshed by direct spells as it does for your mastery, but this refreshing of renew happens only with single target spells. I have the Sinestra helm and cloak (no spirit) but they work very well and I do not have any major mana problems.

[@doublezug7193]

Mastery is a throughput increase but its not benefitting renew is a massive downside and makes it less valuable than crit imo. Even if you dont have 'mana problems', i.e. going oom before the end of the fight unexpectedly, spirit is still the most valuable throughput stat. More mana means more casts without going oom which in turn means higher throughput. Cata healing is very mana constrained and all the healers have good ways of translating extra mana into hps so spirit is extremely strong across the board and hpriest gets 30% extra scaling. There is basically no circumstance outside of fights with like

[@whitemagick4]

@@doublezug7193 I agree that mastery is not useful for the renew playstyle. I play in a raid team with a druid so I do not use that. and yes spirit is super important. I am going full spirit gear for progress in Firelands. But in tier 11 I could afford non-spirit items because of the short duration of boss fights and the fact that I do not use the renew playstyle.

[@JohannesWOW]

i took a shot everytime you jumped. i made it 20 seconds into the video. Post your best time.

[@doublezug7193]

Not much to do in cata 5 mans, you gotta keep your apm up somehow.

[@politelyupset]

@@doublezug7193 Just heal as a shadow. PW:S + passive healing on a BDK should be enough :)

[@illiberalautist2222]

​@@politelyupset I actually did this to valor cap my second priest lol. Hybrid off healing is so underused.

[@jackoneill4252]

Its nice to hear you reaffirming basically how I played T11. However, T12 has me rethinking so many things and has me feeling a little lost. Damage just feels spikey, and single target heavy. My original renew filler style hasn't been as strong as it felt in t11. I kind of feel lost in T12 and even with stat upgrades the damage profile ends with me doing less HPS then I did in T11. Any advice on playstyle changes for Firelands?

[@doublezug7193]

t12 is just pretty bad for holy/rdruid tbh only fight youre useful on is like beth/rag you can go single target chakra and still do fine tank healing with a couple extra points in divine fury

[@gumbotwarcraft5721]

Would you rather have a holy priest or rdruid in 10 man? Why or why not I’ve never seen a holy priest yet in cata 😅

[@MSnow-pu4qs]

Because they're playing disc/spriest

[@louisesuth8141]

I have been holy priest in 10 man hc in cata, found that for 10mans was much better at keeping people actually alive than disc, tho your hps may be less!

[@gumbotwarcraft5721]

@ seems strange, I thought it would be the reverse given pain sup pws barrier and grace on the tank.

[@albeshino8875]

The answer is in the video. Hprieet>rdruid

[@normanwaldner5204]

Hey, I would really love and be thankful if you could do a guide on how to heal in firelands!🔥☺️

[@doublezug7193]

Ill be doing boss by boss guides as we clear heroic. Didnt get much ptr time due to irl stuff.

[@ecclesiaandune687]

do you recommend just having a completely diff gear set for Disc/Holy then? As disc has a lot of pieces with no spirit on (like Crown of the Twilight Queen) for example, or can you just get away with reforging to spirit for Holy fights?

[@doublezug7193]

I personally wouldnt wear crown in t11, id wear tier. The traditional bis lists overvalue haste massively for disc. Ideally though you would have full spirit gear for holy. That said as long as you have your first renew breakpoint and mostly spirit gear you get like 95% of your throughput swapping to holy with disc gear without reforging. Skill is way more important for determining your hps/value in the raid than secondary stat budgeting until youre getting super sweaty and trying to eek out 1 or 2 percent hps to parse or w/e. Focus on spending all your mana, nailing your spell selection/target selection, practicing mechanics to the point where you can stare at your raidframes the whole fight and not die, etc. before you worry too much about uber sweaty reforging and gear swapping over 150 spirit vs 150 haste. If you can master the basics youll be better than 99% of healers even in suboptimal gear.

[@ecclesiaandune687]

@@doublezug7193 thank you - i reforged basically all to spirit since im not hitting the haste cap (the 2nd one) and then just reforged any spare haste/mastery into crit, did a FL 10 tonight and healed it a breeze, very valuable advice.

[@liammaguire3212]

Thoughts on the BIS trinkets for Firelands?

[@doublezug7193]

For holy priest youll take dmc fall all the way to Dragon Soul. Unfortunately the healer trinkets in FL are pretty mid. Spirit is just way too valuable and the trinket effects themselves are quite weak. Jaws might be competitive in certain circumstances but Ill have to test it with mana reduction from talents and inner will as the reduction from shard is bugged with certain mana reduction talents so it follows that jaws might be similarly bugged. On very short fights you could conceivably swap to something like eye jaws just for the extra int (initial mana pool+sp).