Catch Wrestler vs BJJ Brown Belt | Anthony Pacheck vs Lane Gries

[@MaydaysCustomWoodworks]

I'm a bjj black belt and a mediocre wrestler. Every art can be dangerous as long as they spar live, have great team mates, and have realistic rules.

[@subspectrumbjj]

Mediocre wrestlers unite 💪🏼😂

[@MaydaysCustomWoodworks]

@@subspectrumbjj hah! I'm cool with it. I got my other skills that I lean in harder on lol

[@subspectrumbjj]

@@MaydaysCustomWoodworks Same lol

[@ghetto_shakespeare93]

Well said 👍👍👍

[@MMALAB]

You are so right my friend!

[@VikMikheev]

That day I saw a catch wrestler in a wild... My children won't believe me.

[@subspectrumbjj]

Hahahaha Bigfoot stories for the children.

[@rustyshackleford735]

That was a very nice display from both parties.

[@subspectrumbjj]

These Absolutes produce some really incredible matches and highlight some of the great talent we have here in Iowa and throughout the Midwest! Thanks for watching! 🙏🏼

[@TheLZempir3]

0:42 was kind of embarrassing.

[@seangentry74]

@@TheLZempir3 ?

[@TheLZempir3]

@@seangentry74 that was a silly attempt at a straight ankle lock with no control of other leg.

[@JohnLeslieHansen]

@@TheLZempir3 please, in your expert opinion, tell us more. #cnt

[@kwak76]

for sure I thought he would tap to that kimura lock

[@subspectrumbjj]

I was refereeing and I thought it was over for sure. Pacheck is a tough out!

[@MultiTictock]

Catch wrestlers would call it "Double wrist lock"

[@driftaaa]

He would have if he would have stepped over the head.

[@kaipo8489]

He obviously did not have the proper technique just like his foot lock atempt at the beginning.

[@matsuwd-emethdaath4002]

Good attempt but the double wristlock wasnt under control

[@bullseyedentremoval]

Amazing roll! That kimura attempt had me scared! Lucky escape, don’t know why he switched to that one arm attempt, it looked over with to me.

[@subspectrumbjj]

He wanted to flex on the catch wrestler with a one arm kimura 😂 just kidding. Either way, thank you for watching and interacting!

[@fedormma34]

If the position is right you can get even more tourqe on the shoulder using one arm. Micheal chiesa in the UFC recently got a kimura with the one arm finish. that seemed like what he was going for to me at least.

[@bastionblackperformance3804]

It was greed. I generally, especially with big dudes, get the finish with the wrist bent down, elevating the elbow and can cut corners and not step over the head, didnt work and I transitioned to the 1 on 1 finish but couldn't make it work. Oops

[@mehmetgurkan8147]

All he had to do was throw that leg over his head and the kimura would have been locked. He was able to sit up to and cancel it out.

[@bullseyedentremoval]

@@bastionblackperformance3804 thanks for the clarification! Great roll

[@drhooligan3800]

bruh the guy pulling guard and leg locking is the catch wrestler and the guy forcing a kimura like he's Sakuraba is the brown belt? What the hell is going on

[@subspectrumbjj]

Nobody knows for sure lol

[@MP-db9sw]

Have to admit I am one of the people who thought the smaller guy was BJJ and the bigger guy the CACC. Anyway, it was a good match and fun video.

[@Rabbit.760]

U mean the guy that pulled guard was a catch wrestler? No way

[@dvm9795]

@@Rabbit.760 soon as I saw that I thought the smaller guy was BJJ

[@mariosargiropoulos1715]

If the big guy is a bjj guy, then they are both bjj guys. There was nothing catch about what the smaller guy was doing. That was all bjj. Guard pulling, butt scooting, half guard sweeps, setting up his sub attempts, etc. These things are completely counter to what Catch is about and are distinctly bjj.

[@SwordTune]

I don't think Anthony is only a catch wrestler, but he is recognized as someone who is learning the real thing by other people in the CACC community, people to frequently reference old techniques written in the catch wrestling manuals. Of course he knows how to roll in other ways, but even catch wrestlers of ye olden times had their own version of pulling guard: lazy takedowns that just brought the fight to the ground without working the stand-up wrestling.

[@chijaytavaakachija1513]

So the big guy is the brown belt. I would have lost money if I had to bet.

[@subspectrumbjj]

I think most of us would have 😂

[@mrblaque215]

Amazing match by both martial artists 🥋👏💯

[@subspectrumbjj]

Thank you for watching and interacting! 🚀

[@THIS---GUY]

So just by watching the techniques I assumed incorrectly that grey shorts was the catch wrestler lol nice to see bjj buddy try a couple catch techniques on the catch wrestler.

[@subspectrumbjj]

You’re not the only one! Pacheck has got an interesting style that pulls from all different disciplines but he embraces his catch roots!

[@IncrediPaulAZ]

I totally thought that too lol. I don't know anything about catch wrestling, though, only a little bjj

[@KeepGoingLarryB]

Seems like the Travis Newaza Type. He was really big on Catch Wrestling but it was hard to tell we he competed.

[@subspectrumbjj]

@@KeepGoingLarryB Good call! Haven’t seen that dude in a while. He was always good to me.

[@KeepGoingLarryB]

@@subspectrumbjj yea man he just disappeared. He was something the grappling world needed at the time. He was with CSW so that’s legit too.

[@ThievesInTheTreasureRoom]

I've never seen the maneuver that Gries uses at 1:06 and again at 2:14 (overhook and roll). Anyone know the name of this technique or if it even has one?

[@behindtheseeyesiseewhatyou8953]

Diving double wrist lock as made popular by the Wigan crew

[@ThievesInTheTreasureRoom]

@@behindtheseeyesiseewhatyou8953 Thanks, dood 🤙

[@UnderPressurePressureWashing]

I love how at the start, dude in the black spats goes for a traditional wrestlers tie up. He attempts to control the head and immediately learns that isn't in the spectrum of possible and just pulls guard instead. haha!! That Kimura woulda torn most peoples shoulders, stepping over the head or not, facts. the guy in spats had some unorthodox sweep attempts and a nice belly down straight ankle lock.

[@tankmuhammad4161]

Very nice match... both gentlemen showed a lot of skill and technique....

[@subspectrumbjj]

Thank you for watching and interacting! 🙏🏼🚀

[@Patricio24601]

Why did he release the Kimura?

[@capicornboss]

Good match!! I'm about to watch this more than once! 🤙🏿

[@subspectrumbjj]

Awesome! Thanks for checking it out and interacting in the comments! 🚀

[@Jainko]

What's the difference between catch wrestling and "regular" (freestyle/greco) wrestling?

[@holdenmuganda97]

Submissions are allowed in catch. It’s the only difference

[@JW-bw8nj]

Should be titled "Former Catch Wrestler turned BJJ butt-scooter vs BJJ brown belt"

[@kallepikku4991]

"Former Catch Wrestler turned BJJ butt-scooter vs BJJ brown belt trying to be Catch wrestler"

[@kazzykaioken8873]

I cant deal with the butt scooting its soo lame. And if someone tries that in a street fight they probably gonna sit down on a fat peice of dog shit stand up fool

[@JW-bw8nj]

@@kazzykaioken8873 Or worse, a soccer kick to the face. It's seems that with every new "innovative" technique, BJJ gets further and further away from being an actual marital art. Kind of sad really.

[@allrounder242]

@@JW-bw8nj well that's why it's a sport competition u dumbass No bjj practitioner would lay down on the streets like that

[@kazzykaioken8873]

@@adamhull9994 Im saying that modern jiu jitsu trains students to have muscle memory in movements which are not good for self defence. Martial arts is a self defence art BEFORE it is a competition art.. which is why I know jiu jitsu guys who think they can own muay thai guys outside of the cage and are gravely mistaken. I will never train for competition jiu jitsu because the rules are stupid. Someone can jump onto you to pull guard but you cant slam them in comp, yet they can possibly fuck up your knees. Its a stupidness in competition AND on the streets yet jiu jitsu students do it in both arenas

[@xrafar-i2675]

This is so crazy! First I think for a second “how do I know who’s who” then they start to grapple right and I see immediately “ah it’s so obvious” One guy is playing the guard and one guy try to attack, have a bit problem passing the guard and try some strange footlocker without any kind of ashi garami/leg control. So I think for myself “one guy is playing the guard game witch is position before submission and the other guy is playing the catch as can catch game obviously” But then I read in the comments tha it was the opposite, that the guy that was doing all that catch as catch can style of grappling actually is a Bjj brown belt and the guy that was playing guard and position and even pulled guard was the catch wrestler🤯 my brain is melting lol

[@subspectrumbjj]

Everybody is confused lol

[@allrounder242]

Well technically he's also a bjj practitioner If it was a free style grappling match then it would've been different

[@SwampCityRadio1974]

It's more click-baity to frame a contest as a style vs style match even when that isn't completely representative of what's actually going on.

[@wesssl7399]

I feel if the catch wrestler would’ve commited to the kimura, that match was over! Fantastic showing by both, very impressed by the Catch as Catch Can Wrestler

[@kallepikku4991]

That was the bjj guy going for the failed Kimura. Apparently the smaller guy is the Catch wrestler. 🤷‍♂️

[@pdubascrub]

I love how catch wrestlers always have 20lbs on the bjj guys in these matches.

[@subspectrumbjj]

that's funny because it is actually the smaller grappler who claims catch lol

[@pdubascrub]

@@subspectrumbjj I was assuming the man in all black was the bjj practitioner,from his style, and the smaller man from appearance. If im mistaken I retract my statement and apologize. Thanks for the correction.

[@jaehunkim3076]

@@pdubascrub same here, because he... pulled guard. i

[@KarmaLodroSenge]

I don't believe the smaller guy is a Catch Wrestler. No Catch guy on the freaking planet would ever pull guard.

[@kybalion848]

Catch wrestler pulling guard, BJJ brown belt doesn't know to step over head to finish Kimura...lol whatever you say

[@antonzigando150]

why did he let go of the kimura at around 2:35

[@zezuntxiduntxi]

Where was usada?

[@asdfghjkldfghjhgcgyuigfyui9792]

lol

[@kcwliew]

This is the biggest troll video I've seen in ages :P - The guy going for the standing ankle lock and jumping kimura is the BJJ guy and the guy pulling guard and going right into classic BJJ half guard game is the catch wrestler? What the actual?!!! Love cross training.

[@DiegoLapetina]

What? Is that real?

[@solarjudgement4575]

Totally wrong.

[@DiegoLapetina]

@@solarjudgement4575 That makes sense.

[@alexisvelasquez6825]

active guard

[@joatanpereira4272]

no way

[@sebeng4711]

Man... that catch wrestler is fucking huge.

[@subspectrumbjj]

Funny, it’s actually the smaller guy that claims to be a Catch Wrestler lol

[@diabolic42090]

@@subspectrumbjj i highly doubt he learned his guard work in a catch wrestling room but regardless where he learned his skills, he's good

[@subspectrumbjj]

@@diabolic42090 No doubt - we’ve had a couple of matches against each other and he’s competed for our events numerous times. Pacheck has become a household name at Sub Spectrum!

[@subspectrumbjj]

@@Omniswell Correct. He did.

[@hatebreed516]

@@diabolic42090 in catch wrestling, it is called body scissors, look up Catch Wrestling: Leg Nelson attack series 2 on here

[@raulsanchez543]

Wrestling is at a disadvantage vs non wrestling rules, but a wrestler who can punch will crush all that bjj vodoo.

[@raulsanchez543]

@@adamhull9994 sure it’s not 100% accurate, like Andre Silva’s left from the bottom set up the triangle against Sonnen after five rounds of getting his ass kicked. But striking on the ground heavily favors the guy on top, who can control his position.

[@raulsanchez543]

@@adamhull9994 yes but the only time that guy got a sweep, was after a long time of being on bottom. Again, in mma where you can see striking and grappling, it’s not that easy to just get on top from bottom, even if you BJJ is top notch. See Tony vs olives.

[@brandonsousa3627]

BJJ & Catch Wrestling it’s great

[@subspectrumbjj]

Appreciate you checking it out!

[@ChrisCapoccia]

interesting matchup, my conclusion is that a good wrestler with a little bit of bjj familiarity is a good match for a good bjj. they clearly know the rules and a range of techniques, starting with the wrestler pulling guard

[@subspectrumbjj]

Thanks for checking it out Chris and weighing in in the comments! 🚀

[@alahatim]

leg and ankle locks are the great equalizers

[@subspectrumbjj]

That they are!

[@TheSuprememathematic]

Great display, gentleman!!

[@subspectrumbjj]

Thanks for checking it out and interacting! 🙏🏼🚀

[@محمدعلاء-ض5ز6ض]

Can I do both of the sports

[@gxtmfa]

If you have to choose between BJJ and CACC, choose both Edit: I’ve come to learn that I had no clue which was which this whole time because of stereotypes I had for each style

[@matsuwd-emethdaath4002]

Truth

[@fcmerces]

Nobody has, because the catch wrestling was using BJJ and vice versa

[@jeegupopli1871]

Who's who, guess the one pulling gaurd was bjj?

[@subspectrumbjj]

Surprisingly it's the opposite of what you think.

[@jeremiahhamlette9693]

Is this catch rules or bjj?

[@judopr]

Ask Kazushi Sakuraba. “The Gracie Hunter”

[@roflswamp6]

So its all grappling but its styles catch is cool and so is bjj I love both

[@subspectrumbjj]

You said it best - it’s all grappling. The clickbait title is for all the people who don’t even train and want to get upset about it 😂

[@roflswamp6]

@@subspectrumbjj yeah I do bjj but have always wanted to do catch and have gone with judoka and wrestlers and yeah its really just a different approach but is all grappling wish I had a catch gym near me :(

[@subspectrumbjj]

@@roflswamp6 where you at? Maybe there’s somebody near by and you just don’t know it. This comment section might be the place to find one lol

[@roflswamp6]

@@subspectrumbjj im in bakersfield California brother

[@subspectrumbjj]

@@roflswamp6 I think the closest CSW affiliate would be Tarzana.

[@johndeneen980]

Outstanding job!

[@julianlewis777]

open weight devision ? Or same weight class

[@subspectrumbjj]

This is the Sub Spectrum Advanced No-Gi Absolute so open weight

[@rosatistrengthsystems]

Wow, so close with that kimura

[@averagejoe5016]

Who was the BJJ guy who was the catch wrestler?

[@subspectrumbjj]

You’ll never guess

[@rudai123]

So which one is the Catch Wrestler? I've seen Pachek compete in several Catch Wrestling tournaments. He pulls guard here, so the other guy is the Catch wrestler? Nice match btw.

[@subspectrumbjj]

Pacheck is the one claiming catch, so in this match he is the catch wrestler

[@PTS.MT.Goalie.BJJ.Andrew]

The cover picture shows a different. Why do that??

[@subspectrumbjj]

A different what? These are the two guys who competed in the match against each other. Anthony Pacheck and Lane Gries.

[@PTS.MT.Goalie.BJJ.Andrew]

@@subspectrumbjj the who won looks like the guy who lost. Anyways, gives an element of surprise after watching the result I guess lol

[@subspectrumbjj]

@@PTS.MT.Goalie.BJJ.Andrew it was just the coolest still frame from the match. Titles and thumbnails are just that - titles and thumbnails. People get way too bent out of shape and think we’re making a statement about what style is better. It’s literally just there to make people click. If I posted this match titled “Anthony Pacheck vs Lane Gries” it might get 120 views but “Catch Wrestler vs BJJ Brown Belt” produced 70,000 in 10 days and now more people than ever know who Anthony Pacheck and Lane Gries are.

[@theOni877]

Great match

[@subspectrumbjj]

It is indeed!

[@justinalexander7695]

Im confused, is he a catch wrestler, or a catch wrestler with bjj experience. Looks like he trained more bjj than catch wrestling to me.

[@subspectrumbjj]

Definitely has plenty of exposure to BJJ - just claims catch roots.

[@ps3ud0nym]

How did he lose that kimura? 😳

[@CelciusPR]

The title on this video is misleading. Should be a bjj match by two bjj practitioners.. because Anthony Pacheck obviously training bjj & is using bjj

[@seangentry74]

Nice match. Good show from both athletes. I am surprised the CaCC didn't finish that Kimura as it's one of their staples...(and yes I am aware that CaCC guys poopoo on it being called a Kimura lol #doublewristlock). Good fight though. Much respect.

[@seangentry74]

O wow... just read that it was the smaller guy in the absolute that is the catch wrestler... that can't be right... he was attacking with bjj...

[@dylanlunsford5749]

That was awesome!

[@subspectrumbjj]

Thanks for watching and interacting Dylan! 🙏🏼🚀

[@luchadordecocina5106]

What's a catch wrestler?

[@behindtheseeyesiseewhatyou8953]

As a grappler with 38 years of experience of Wrestling, Mostly Greco, Judo, Sambo and Catch I can tell you my grappling is on par with most competitive black belt BJJ guys. My approach is to cause as much pain per position as I can. All faked play and nothing dirty. Position over submission and submission off throws.. however it punishes even yourself. Need two new hips.

[@okish02]

Scooting on the but is the most ridiculous thing in martial art today

[@MakeYouFeelBetterNow]

Yeah, the butt scoot should not be allowed. Takedown points should go to someone, that would put an end to it.

[@rw1567]

Great roll!

[@subspectrumbjj]

Thanks for checking it out!

[@renehinojosa1962]

Hard to believe he didn't finish him at the 2:31 minute mark, not the best example of a Catch wrestler but I think he's picking up experience. Good on him for competing though, he'll be a threat to a lot of people once he's seasoned.

[@آلقطيانالحكام]

👏🏻

[@Helvetseld]

The catch wrestler is the one who almost got submitted by the kimura... anthony pachek. You’re confused because he was the one pulling guard, but he’s the catch guy

[@grapplingwithphysiopodcast3339]

Great match 🤙

[@bxboricua167]

Man, the catch wrestler had so many opportunities where he could have just manhandled him and end it with a tazzmmission lol

[@subspectrumbjj]

The man’s claiming “catch wrestler” actually won the match. The yoked dude is the brown belt lol

[@KimuraCountry]

Are there not weight classes lol

[@subspectrumbjj]

No because this is an absolute bracket. The guy who won this bracket was 170 lbs and beat a 220 lbs black belt in the finals.

[@sosevere556]

Catch wrestling is like Guerrilla Jiu Jitsu lmaoooo no position, straight submission

[@subspectrumbjj]

One of the Jiu Jitsu meme pages out out a really hilarious post about this recently 😂

[@gedbookings2328]

What kind of socks is the ref wearing?

[@subspectrumbjj]

Bob Ross bro

[@PlayfulWithIt]

I feel like most Catch Wrestlers don't know how to work around guard (I'm new to Catch Wrestling btw) but this guy really does know how it seems. Very impressive.

[@KeepGoingLarryB]

It depends on where you learn your catch wrestling.

[@kallepikku4991]

Check out Neil Melanson and his instructionals. All ground work. Great Catch wrestling stuff.

[@SwordTune]

Most catch wrestlers have an amateur wrestling background or a BJJ background. The former just means you'd have to learn how to pass guard eventually anyway, the latter means you should already know how to. A catch wrestler who is interested in competing against mixed grappling should already know how to pass guard.

[@temoherbertlopez6019]

The guard in catch wrestling is calling body scissor, and is seen as a position of disadvantage of Catch, there are some techniques used to "escape the body scissor" (make submission from the guard). Maybe he learned under british rules, i heared that some british rulesets are submission only so the back can make contact without consequences. However im not an expert if there is a mistake in what im saying please correct me.

[@SwordTune]

@@temoherbertlopez6019 British rules definitely included the pin, but wrestlers would inevitably find themselves in that position. They simply did not work on their backs. They'd probably try to get an angle with the body scissor, which needs more athleticism than just lying down.

[@kariskris4870]

Something tells me if this was a no mercy fight in the street, the Catch Wrestler would have one.

[@subspectrumbjj]

That’s funny because the one claiming catch wrestling did win the match lol the bigger more muscular dude was the BJJ Brown Belt

[@kariskris4870]

@@subspectrumbjj My bad, he fooled me with his butt scooting.

[@RealFauxRogan]

These guys looking for an MMA fight in Iowa?

[@subspectrumbjj]

you'd have to ask them yourself, but I doubt it.

[@craigllacour649]

He had him from the get go with the ankle lock think he was taking it easy on that Bjj guy. And for the record that stupid butt scooting get on my nerves.

[@JW-bw8nj]

I never thought I'd see the day that a "catch wrestler" would be butt scooting

[@craigllacour649]

@@JW-bw8nj not the catch wrestler the bjj guy

[@JW-bw8nj]

@@craigllacour649 The guy that was butt scooting and ended up winning WASN'T the BJJ guy

[@Blindstoic]

Really good match.

[@subspectrumbjj]

Thank you for watching and interacting Sean! 🙏🏼🚀

[@quocphingo9807]

so who is catch wrestler ?

[@subspectrumbjj]

The guy who won

[@quocphingo9807]

@@subspectrumbjj wut ? I'm a freestyle wrestler but i can't believe that catch wrestler play guard like that

[@subspectrumbjj]

@@quocphingo9807 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️ his claim, not our’s

[@ElephantRage]

There is no catch wrestling here, I don't care what anyone say: you don't need to be Sherlock Holmes - nor a promoter - to google 'em up and see that they are both BJJ practitioners.

[@subspectrumbjj]

I don’t need to Google someone I know personally lol Anthony has roots in catch but as he primarily competes in Jiu Jitsu tournaments now, his style has evolved to be successful in that ruleset. Technically it’s a bit misleading, but ultimately more people watched this match and know who these guys are now than ever would have if I just titled it “Anthony Pacheck vs Lane Gries.” The sad reality is that it would have gotten 250-500 views. Titles and thumbnails matter if you’re trying to reach a larger audience.

[@trcs3079]

There's 1 thing chael sonnen is right about, BBJ is about submission, wrestling is about position. If you have the advantageous of a position, the likelihood of success is greater.

[@YusufSayed-px2xy]

It depends

[@johannesandersson9477]

Good match

[@erubiobjj]

good match

[@AveryBlueRemix]

Its almost like they’re the same discipline 🤔

[@subspectrumbjj]

It’s just a title that gets people to watch. It’s a BJJ tournament. Obviously all grapplers regardless of their background come prepared to compete under BJJ rules. The titles and thumbnails provide information about their background and give people a reason to click.

[@thefitgm335]

Great match! Thought he had that Kimura. Gotta step over the head to stop them from getting up.

[@kallepikku4991]

I'm so confused by this match...? 🤦‍♀️

[@davidtice4972]

I do a mixture of BJJ and Catch wrestling No-gi.

[@ne1uno]

amazing that little guy holdin his own against thaat big guy

[@jking5772]

Who’s who

[@subspectrumbjj]

Winner was the catch wrestler. Dude with the Kimura was the brown belt.

[@kwak76]

@@subspectrumbjj for real.? .it look like the opposite to me. I mean catch wrestler prefer top game and that bottom player had very good guard retention which is more of BJJ thing.

[@Will-zx9uz]

@@kwak76 I agree, I thought the same

[@subspectrumbjj]

@@kwak76 I know, surprising huh?

[@bas613]

@@subspectrumbjj lol what? He fights like someone who trains under John Danaher. If it come to style, there no difference to a BJJ practitioner. Then Catch Wrestling and BJJ means the same thing. I don't know any Catch Wrestler who plays K-Guard, do you?

[@abuamani313]

No suplex ? Lol

[@subspectrumbjj]

We weren’t lucky enough to see that lol

[@abuamani313]

Indeed that wrestler can quickly end it without too many hugs en kissing with a nice suplex lol

[@snazdogdbfan251]

Grappling stays on TOP

[@skywatchers9675]

@3:30 swept him like white belt

[@kallepikku4991]

Title should be: "Former Catch wrestler turned BJJ butt-scooter vs BJJ brown belt trying to be Catch wrestler"

[@nstv23]

It’s clearly that they both train jiu jitsu and the other guy trains catch wrestling too. Catch wrestlers usually have silly guard games.

[@bastionblackperformance3804]

You like to leave your long hook lazy whilst trying take back from knee shield? I too like to live dangerously...

[@subspectrumbjj]

Hahaha thanks for competing and supporting the event man! Hope to see you at more in the future!

[@bastionblackperformance3804]

@@subspectrumbjj As long as it's not during shooting season, for sure.

[@hermonymusofsparta]

Don't call someone a "catch wrestler" who pulls guard and goes to his back just because he might have learned some catch techniques. If you want to cross train go ahead, but going to your back is taught *against* in catch.

[@Crystals10000]

wow nice uhm was the guy who lost the wrestler?

[@subspectrumbjj]

Confusingly enough it was actually the guy who won and pulled guard that has catch wrestling roots lol

[@Crystals10000]

@@subspectrumbjj oh err okay then so then the loser was the bjj brown belt??

[@subspectrumbjj]

@@Crystals10000 Yes

[@Crystals10000]

@@subspectrumbjj oh yeah belts dont mean shit ive been saying that since the beginning

[@dan_thesaint]

I thought catch wresterls don't train guard or sit on their back, isn't that against their regulations? Cuz they fear the pin

[@subspectrumbjj]

I guess the game has evolved and there are areas of catch using the guard and turtle

[@dan_thesaint]

@@subspectrumbjj interesting, at this point there may be very Little differences with generic grappling

[@subspectrumbjj]

@@dan_thesaint I agree. The best grapplers take techniques and concepts from all disciplines.

[@dvldgz6306]

Some smaller catch organizations only consider it a pin if you're whole body is north of the hips. So side control, mount, north south. But not guard and half guard.

[@yagzyalcntas553]

Which wrestler tries to go for guard?? Wrestler (smaller guy) do bjj and bjj do wrestling lol

[@NabilAbdulrashidComedy]

I was wondering who the catchwrestler was and then someone pulled guard lol

[@subspectrumbjj]

Except the guy who pulled guard is the one claiming catch lol

[@NabilAbdulrashidComedy]

@@subspectrumbjj lol I only just realised but thought I’d let someone flame me for my comment because I deserved it 😂😂

[@subspectrumbjj]

@@NabilAbdulrashidComedy Hahaha honestly though, who wouldn’t assume that was the case based on the “catch wrestler” pulling guard and the other dude looking like a catch wrestler lol

[@11Khalid11]

I feel like the catch wrestler just didn't want to break the brown belts arm.

[@subspectrumbjj]

He is actually in the comment section and admitted that he did not have the proper technique in that moment to finish the submission. He was not going easy on him, I promise you.

[@MishaChausov]

It is not brown belt , it's white belt

[@UnderPressurePressureWashing]

Someone piss in your cereal?

[@feartheshadows956]

He was very obsessed with the leg locks all he ever attempted apart from the arm in guillotine

[@subspectrumbjj]

It’s part of the game now!

[@kananisha]

The wrestler was having none of his antics lol

[@yourmom4730]

The bjj guy won

[@yourmom4730]

@Grappling Friends didn’t he anclke lock him at the end tapping him out

[@chrisevans4854]

@@yourmom4730 Apparently the guy that won is the catch wrestler. I assumed wrong as well because he pulled guard.

[@yourmom4730]

@@chrisevans4854 Fr

[@yourmom4730]

@Grappling Friends most confusing grappling match

[@DMMDwrestler]

Wrestling is superior to BJJ. The only reason this match ended this way was bc the wrestler decided not to rip that Kimura hard. Pure sportsmanship.

[@Pug351]

Who is who? Be nice if people identify participants in their videos.

[@oscartalbot7496]

Belly down is no joke

[@subspectrumbjj]

Strong finish!

[@MansaMusa-v5q]

Bjj dude took his fuckin knee out smart go for his weakness

[@arturofernandez725]

This is why you see grown men and you just let them be.

[@subspectrumbjj]

Hahahaha

[@joe-jg4bh]

Which is which? Nobody catching anything just bjj here.

[@cccowboy2576]

the CW could have finished that perfectly held Kimura to end the match long time ago...

[@subspectrumbjj]

Except that didn’t happen and he lost it... Also that’s the BJJ brown belt lol not the catch wrestler. Everybody assuming wrong lol

[@cccowboy2576]

@@subspectrumbjj GD that's one lousy BJJ brown blet... :(

[@joelarmour]

Weight was huge diff

[@subspectrumbjj]

And Pacheck still over came it. The absolute is not for the weak!

[@SoldierDrew]

It appears the Catch Wrestler hasn't learned the knee locks, heel hooks and ankle locks of catch cause he ignored every leg offering given to him when the newaza guy pulled guard.

[@subspectrumbjj]

Well the guy who pulled guard is the one who claims Catch sooo lol

[@heyman8820]

Sooooo lol

[@xrafar-i2675]

@@subspectrumbjj that’s crazy! I was so sure that the guy who played the guard and position game was the Bjj guy and the guy playing the catch as catch can guy was the catch guy.

[@RyanMinney]

Sakuraba shows and chokes the big one with out with the little one. Match over