Catching gutters from both neighbors to solve standing water problems

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[@appledrains]

Great work 👍

[@GCFD]

Thank you Chuck! I’m so excited you like my videos!

[@DoahnKea_Tuber]

Hey Shawn: Here's a good one with tons of water being moved out... m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/fGfMn5Wio6-LgLs

[@yusufaron8565]

instablaster.

[@alexplisko7794]

Oh man, finding a Brown Snake in Australia is an entirely different experience!!!

[@GCFD]

Haha!! The only venomous snakes here are brown in color so you do have to be careful. We found a king snake the other day on a job.

[@amandagardner565]

i'm in country Victoria, i have seen 2 adult Eastern Brown Snakes since moving to 5 acres in 2001, we see several baby browns each year. both the adults (years apart) were about 1/2 metre from my foot, i have learned to back away VERY SLOWLY.

[@Vardraq]

That curb was drilled through with absolute perfection! So satisfying to watch.

[@GCFD]

Thank you Joe!

[@steverusie6986]

Great 811 information about the gas lines! Loved the camera shot of the core drill coming through the curb!

[@GCFD]

Thank you Steve! Thanks for watching! - Shawn

[@coenfilm]

Another water problem solved. Great video as always Shawn. The peace of mind you give folks.

[@GCFD]

Thank you coen!

[@xavierhenriques1116]

Love the camera angle on the coring 👍 Another great upload, Shawn! Thank you

[@GCFD]

Thank you as always Xavier!

[@2point2]

Great videos. 👍 My neighbor is a jerk when to comes to dealing with drainage. Re-graded his property with no permits and trapped water on my yard. Got fixed, but things got ugly.... 🤬

[@GCFD]

I’m glad you got it resolved. Some neighbors are like that...

[@vancouver4sure]

Smart of them to work together! Gg as always!

[@GCFD]

Thank you!

[@mathusvaiaoga9787]

So satisfying seeing that drill come out perfect on the other side.

[@GCFD]

👍

[@nickbates7645]

Perfect work with the core drill!

[@GCFD]

I agree. Perfect setup from Mike.

[@jedisith25]

Great work , you guys never fail to amaze me! The timelapse is a nice touch, by the way.

[@GCFD]

thank you Darsan!

[@shanewhite499]

Great job as always. I think putting those pieces on eBay is a good idea. Great job Shawn!

[@GCFD]

Thank you!

[@rjaft]

These videos just get better and better!

[@GCFD]

Thank you! I have been trying to improve things since my channel has grown. Many viewers have provided honest and valuable feedback to help me. 👍

[@monsantofungaro5704]

That core drill came out awesome! Nice job!

[@GCFD]

👍

[@anthonyfindlay466]

As always Shawn an excellent job, shout out to Ronald and the rest of the gang keep them coming bro, God bless you.

[@GCFD]

Thank you Anthony! I'll let them know!

[@6143joshua]

I like how you ask your team for their opinion and once they give it you respect it and go with it. Awesome!

[@GCFD]

Thanks for noticing! I like to get everyone's thoughts during the project. Two heads are better than one. My guys all feel free to question what we're doing if they have a better idea. Often times I'll be showing everyone what we're doing on a job and someone says, why don't we do it this way.... and I say, yes, we're doing it that way! LOL

[@6143joshua]

@@GCFD that’s what good leadership is!

[@crz666]

Love the videos, great work and crew 👍

[@GCFD]

👍👍

[@edpoints1127]

Great job Shawn. Good idea on the coring, I've had to use that trick before for the exact same reason. It's crazy how some roads are SOO much more crowned than others... You did the best option. 👍

[@GCFD]

Thanks Ed! I was wondering where you were!

[@edpoints1127]

I'm here. It looks like you started to use the slope on the level. How did it work out for you? You appeared to be doing it right. I know it's not what you're used to, but it will get way better the more you use it... Especially if you are tight on pitch. Sometimes we are only able to get 1/2% pitch-slope. It definitely works and with that type of tolerance, you need to keep it consistent throughout for the best result.

[@SlackerU]

Some of the best. It's great seeing everyone actually trying to drain the water by measuring slope where other channels simply put pipe in the ground & claim greatness.

[@GCFD]

Thanks for your continued support Bob! We try to make things gush! - Shawn

[@WildwoodSubRailfan]

I love the fact that you guys use wyes. Its amazing to me how many people seem to have no idea they exist.

[@GCFD]

I buy them by the case we use so many. We also use sanitary tees too.

[@GMan-yv8cb]

I agree! It just LOOKS to make better sense! The Y directs 2 streams into going in the same direction. The T just seems like alot of unnecessary turbulence. Kinda like a road with no signs ... a nice fluid MERGE vs an uncontrolled chaotic mess! (like people really pay attention-signs or not!) 😃 Nice Job !

[@pneumatic00]

Adding a second / alternate downfeed on the right side of the door is the great idea, IMO! As always, very skilled work, Sean!

[@GCFD]

Thank you! 👍

[@tsimon3294]

Shawn, I wish you and your guys were in Alabama! However, your videos have definitely given me insight into proper drainage and have made me rethink some of the proposals I have gotten. Keep up the good work!

[@GCFD]

Awesome Trenton! Thank you for watching!

[@brentking-gmailking2570]

Another good job. Have a great day.

[@GCFD]

Thank you as always Brent!

[@hollandduck79]

from the Netherlands thanks for the video

[@GCFD]

Thank you!

[@MatHelm]

At 7:45, I could tell you a story about the time my cat brought one of those in through the pet door and dropped it in my lap while I was focused on the TV... Long story short, turns out I have a greater vertical leap from a feet up sitting position on a bed than I do while standing.

[@GCFD]

Hahah

[@chiangogo]

Thank you Fred Armisen

[@GCFD]

👍

[@harri6214]

It's interesting how some places allow gutter water drain on to the street through holes in the curb stones. It would be totally illegal here and you would have to connect to the sewer network directly.

[@GCFD]

👍 Here we keep stormwater and sewage separate. The streets are part of the stormwater management system.

[@LAZYDAYZAHEAD]

Another fine job for the books!

[@GCFD]

Thank you!

[@michaelshepherd733]

Great work, great video

[@GCFD]

👍

[@wcsd9577]

Nice work, the curb cores are definitely the way to go

[@GCFD]

👍 I agree

[@owbeer]

crazy that there are wires so close to the surface at a random spot. also great job !

[@GCFD]

👍

[@jimbeck6093]

Another great video to the boys to the West(Raleigh here)! That’s a Dekay’s Brownsnake!! Great for bugs and small rodents!!

[@GCFD]

Thank you Jim!

[@wendymorrison5803]

Good work having neighbors agree to solve the problem together. Shame they didnt act on the extra down spout on the day.

[@GCFD]

The stub out is for a future downspout to be installed.

[@ericnestor5072]

That's a lot of roof for one pipe. Hope it handles it all.

[@GCFD]

You saw the outfall! 👍

[@edshepherd3256]

@@GCFD the outlet hole next to your outlet hole at the curb had nothing coming out of it. What's up with that?

[@851995STARGATE]

@@edshepherd3256 most likely a non functional line

[@johnlatvenas590]

being a bit of a lawn guy this job hurts just a bit, he has such a nice lawn.. I rather grow grass than have water in the house.

[@GCFD]

Yes for sure!

[@Knightyme]

3:02 - 4:05 This is one of the major reasons you call in professionals with years of experience. the earlier Internet cable example is almost a given, but the 2x gas meter example, that's something many less experienced contractors might miss. You might pay more, but it can often mean paying less.

[@deville116]

Pros' project ✊🏻👍🏻 Best of the best content I like is the idea of the signatures!!! Band of Bros!🤝

[@GCFD]

Thank you!

[@grahamfox4279]

Has Mike been in the videos before? I don't recognize him but he looks like he knows what he's doing. Great video as always!

[@GCFD]

Mike has been in a bunch of videos but his talents keep him busy elsewhere. I'll take him on every job if I can!

[@chrisformby3039]

Nice job. Ever thought of using a turf cutter first, then the trencher. Should save you money on seed and hay over time and would look nice straight away. I wonder how much overseas shipping would be for core of concrete ?😬

[@GCFD]

Yes I did have a sod cutter. The problem is the trench settles. So we have to leave it mounded so it will flatten back out. If you leave it level the trench will re-form as it settles.

[@hjc0706]

cleanest core cut ever!

[@GCFD]

Thank you!

[@sniperfi4532]

Love the videos, keep up the good work! Also just out of curiosity do you guys have minimum depth you have to be in certain areas?

[@GCFD]

We are as deep as needed to get our fall. That’s what dictates depth.

[@TGSamantha091]

09:47 Was that a trick question ? LOL Good answer Mike to start from the top to ensure you maintain fall =)

[@GCFD]

Haha

[@jonathanlanglois2742]

That "moisture" is a classic case of overflow. I've got a pipe about that size that catches only 2 gutters and that's more then enough to make it overflow when there's a heavy rain.

[@GCFD]

These 4" PVC gutters can handle a huge amount of water when properly falling.

[@jeepindave5464]

Watching Andrew Camerata he said an interesting piece of advice. "Pipe is cheap. Excavation is expensive. Dont cheap out on your products to just have to dig it up again." He was showing schedule 40 pvc withstanding a 310 john deere back hoe running over it without failure. Took the whole weight of the rear on the bucket teeth to finally shatter it. Buried where dirt supporting the sides from elongation makes it even stronger.

[@GCFD]

I have seen that video and I would agree!

[@Reidbit]

Noice work fellas

[@GCFD]

👍👍

[@jameshblack]

When the houses are built why dose the building company not put drains to the main drain or to the pavement / roads, most of the American houses have rain water onto the lawn ,,,

[@GCFD]

Probably because 99% of the time it doesn't do any harm. You're seeing the worst examples on this channel since I specialize in drainage issues.

[@DistinctiveBlend]

Still blows my mind you guys don't pipe out the downspouts during the construction of houses.

[@jimybobjim]

Yea, it’s ALWAYS done where I live

[@dpeagles]

It really should be code.

[@fillowtree5505]

Where I live now the requirement for new construction is that all water has to stay on property. So they are putting in cast concrete dry wells on the lots.

[@dpeagles]

@@fillowtree5505 interesting. However, there aren't dry wells big enough to contain heavy rainfall events. Seems they need overflow discharge to the street.

[@GCFD]

Keep in mind you’re seeing the worst cases on my channel. 99% of downspouts aren’t a problem in our area.

[@tgschaef]

Should have done the straight run as a French drain and add some flush surface drains to help draw off the surface rain.

[@GCFD]

But all of the water was point water. So we just kept it in a pipe.

[@jusjos1970]

The ebay pipe is a fun idea!

[@gregsettle9725]

Have you ever had one of your installs damaged by a lawn aeration machine? I don't know why I thought of this during the video.

[@GCFD]

No the aerators shouldn’t damage the pipe unless it’s a huge machine.

[@jeffguimont3210]

I was wondering when I would see a transit being used to set trench depth.

[@palladini9718]

It is illegal in ontario Canada to cut the curb like that to run pipes getting water off of your property.

[@Dukemeistro]

Shawn, I'm doing a major project at my home in the country in MI this year. How deep do I need to place my drain lines for gutter and sump pump from the house to the ditch 180' away?

[@DaddyBeanDaddyBean]

As you look from the street, the house on the left still has one downspout dumping on the ground at the front corner of the garage, don't they? That would explain a lot of water on the surface in that area.

[@GCFD]

The gutter guy just got out there to add a downspout to our stub out. That should have most of the water taken care of.

[@10lauset]

Cheers

[@GCFD]

👍

[@retired0307]

Just wondering if lawn aeration has ever punctured your PVC pipe. I'm sure it would the corrugated pipe. Maybe the tines don't go that deep.

[@littlehuey5679]

I think I would of added a French drain beside the gutter drain !

[@GCFD]

That would have been great but we just didn't have much fall to deal with.

[@skeetweed]

You should make “Full Bubble” t shirts like it’s basically your catch phrase lol @GateCityFoundationDrainage

[@GCFD]

I'm working on it now! I'm trying to decide between expensive technical collared shirts or more t-shirts.

[@jameswow2836]

@@GCFD I’d say regular T’s with pockets! I’d definitely get a full bubble shirt!

[@DaddyBeanDaddyBean]

You put a short piece of pipe through the curb with a coupler on the back end, but built the rest of the system from back to front. How did you make the last connection? In copper you'd use a slip coupling, and in threaded pipe you could use a union. I would use a rubber coupling as a slip coupling, primarily because I can't think of anything else. Is there a better way?

[@GCFD]

We lift up both ends of the pipe to get them into a regular coupler, and mash it down in place. It takes accurate measuring but works. If we are joining pipes like that that are in the ground we use a mission band (reinforced rubber fernco) because it slides past then back over the joint.

[@DaddyBeanDaddyBean]

@@GCFD Wow - it simply never occurred to me to use a regular coupling like that. (Lift up & smash down.) That's fantastic. Thanks!

[@beanman6684]

The music has me waiting for the weather forecast

[@GCFD]

👍

[@germanjesus]

Take a angle grinder and cut 1mm slices vertically in end of the coring drill you’ll get another 5 years out of it.

[@GCFD]

👍 great tip!

[@AdamMuhle]

Rotary laser! Nice!

[@GCFD]

👍

[@JDPullins]

Hey Shaun, I have a back yard that gets flooded from the run off from the two houses above me. It then fills my backyard up until it reaches a certain point then runs to the house next to me. What would be the best option for collection of the water as it enters my yard? I know exactly where it pushes in from. Is it a French drain or something else? Obviously I have a low spot for it to hold water but the low spot isn't a problem if it werent for the runoff from the two houses above me

[@GCFD]

You would only want to collect the water if you have a place to send it other than your next neighbor. The reason is you can't discharge a pipe onto your neighbor. If not, I would re-grade so the water continues on down the line.

[@christiannickel9801]

Love watching your videos, thanks for making them. I have a request, when pointing the camera at yourself, can you keep the camera level with your face/eyes? Seems like you're starting the videos by looking up your nose :)

[@GCFD]

Yes I can work on that for sure. Thanks for watching Christian! - Shawn

[@proriznian7765]

Hello Shaun. It would be interesting for me and probably many of your viewers if at the end of your videos you tell us the approximate total cost of your work, and the separate concrete work. Andrew

[@GCFD]

Hi Andrew - I agree but that opens things up to all kinds of issues because you don't see everything going on with each job. Plus prices change. PVC has gone up 300% in the last 18 months for example.

[@HardstylePete]

Are storm water systems not common? Seems a lot of house are built with the storm water dumping straight into the yard.

[@GCFD]

Most of the time that water doesn’t cause problems. You’re seeing the worst cases on my channel. I usually am working to save the foundation with my systems.

[@jimanderson4495]

Another problem solved by Shawn & his crew. Could you have installed a basin just on the other side of the walk to catch the downspout in the front of the house? Thanks

[@GCFD]

We could have. But the homeowner and I agreed that since we addressed the majority of the water that little bit shouldn't be an issue. 👍

[@steveg6181]

Im still curious why the pipe doesnt go farther up the side of the house to build head pressure on a site that is kinda flat (apparently) - is it just aesthetics?

[@GCFD]

With a 4" pipe you've got a lot of head even with one inch. We had almost a full bubble the whole way down, so this wasn't as concerning. For jobs where we have little fall we install higher risers.

[@MarlonJoseGE]

Just curious why you didn't use a downspout wye connector as a clean out in case the gutters get filled with leaves & debris. Any particular reason?

[@GCFD]

The way we insert the gutter downspout into a coupling leaves enough space to get my jetter hose in there. Sometimes we do install cleanouts if the customer requests it.

[@collincurtis5478]

You should work with a stone carver to turn the cores into mugs for your customers. Hopefully youtube could help with the expense because I know not everyone is willing to pay the extra for the service. However the marketing you would get may justify cost.

[@GCFD]

Great idea!

[@weekendhomeprojects]

@4:17 - This guy is a spray paint specialist. How many years training does he have? 4 years of undergrad and 2 years professional with 18 months of internship? Good find for GCFD.

[@GCFD]

👍

[@curiouscat3384]

Isn't there a maximum # of downspouts you can feed into a single main drain, or max roof square footage?

[@GCFD]

Yes but it all depends on length of the run and amount of fall.

[@ednaemode5762]

Nice video! Have you ever done any systems with 6” pipe?

[@jimybobjim]

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[@ednaemode5762]

@@jimybobjim thanks man

[@GCFD]

We’ve done a couple like Jimy linked. 👍

[@ericpeterson336]

I noticed there was another outflow upstream of the one you installed that wasn't moving any water. Any idea what that connected to?

[@GCFD]

I’m not sure what it was. No one ever knows 🤷‍♂️

[@edshepherd3256]

i noticed that too.

[@jan_vyhnak]

These videos remind me lyrics: "There's not a problem that I can't fix 'Cause I can do it in the mix And if your man gives you trouble Just you move out on the double And you don't let it trouble your brain 'Cause away goes troubles Down the drain I said away goes troubles Down the drain" from the song "Last night the drainage saved my yard"

[@GCFD]

Hahah Nice!

[@calvingreene90]

How much would it have cost to cut in a surface drain under the last downspout?

[@GCFD]

Quite a bit more cutting and patching concrete. I didn't figure it.

[@lifeisgood070]

That's a lot of roof into 1x 4" pipe. Looks like a typical 4" pipe can handle approx. 1800sq ft of roof at an approx. 4" rain per hour event (75gpm). Part of me wants to say each home should theoretically have it's own pipe to the curb too so they can't blame each other for a clogged pipe but w\e. Usually a 4" pipe at 2% slope can flow 75gpm to 200gpm depending on a bunch of factors (240-260gpm at 20psi). Typically around 55-75gpm when 1/2 way full of water. Calculating for a 4inch rain event (not sure of location, but 22" of rain in north carolina in 24hr is the record and 4-6" rate of rain per hour is not unusual even if it only lasts for a 15minute period after ground saturation. L (ft) x W (ft) * 144 (in2/ft2) * 0.07 (inches of rain per minute in a 4"rain/hour event) * 1/231 (gal per in^3)

[@GCFD]

👍 Thanks for sharing!

[@jangoofy]

Why is the rainwater not directed into the sewers ? and is it normal practice to just end the gutters above the lawn ?

[@GCFD]

The sewer water goes to the wastewater treatment plant. The streets are part of the stormwater management system. Here gutters discharge onto the lawn and the vast majority don't cause any problems.

[@alanburris463]

Do you recommend adding clean-outs to each downspout? Just curious thanks

[@GCFD]

There is enough room to fit my jetter hose in there. We do install cleanouts if the homeowner requests them.

[@BlackDragonWitheHawk]

greetings from switzerland ;-) would a french drain work for taking the rest out? And why are they called french?

[@GCFD]

I don't think there is enough water to worry about a FD. Named that after the guy who invented it.

[@thebigmacd]

Named after an American named Henry Flagg French

[@petero2693]

Never do a joint neighbor project... who maintains it... what if you want to add more... life lesson.. keep it separate and simple... ok..

[@GCFD]

Great point Peter!

[@KevinBenecke]

The drill you use for coring, is it a waterproof type drill?

[@GCFD]

It has a built in GFCI into the cord and is made to work hooped up to a garden hose. It's a Hilti dd-130

[@pacquetman]

Awesome job, Shawn! On your longer pipe runs, have you ever laid in a piece of wire to help locate it if the homeowner sells rather than relying on the homeowners memory?

[@GCFD]

We do occasionally run tracer (locator) wire. We use 14/2 outdoor wire.

[@Peter_Riis_DK]

Can I ask - why the straw cover? Nothing will grow under that. And is this in a place where it never freezes?

[@GCFD]

We seed and straw all disturbed soil. The straw protects the bare soil from raindrop splash, as well as the seed from granivores. The straw holds moisture and releases nutrients as it decomposes for the germinating seeds. Once the seeds are growing well the straw pretty much disappears into the new lawn and after the first few mows it is gone.

[@Peter_Riis_DK]

@@GCFD ½ Thanks.

[@michaelfisher7835]

I will be very surprised if that run of pipe can handle all the water coming off those roofs, without backing up, during a heavy downpour of any lasting duration. Add to that any hail mised in, whether it be pea size of larger, can clog the whole works. Looked to me like you needed a larger diameter pipe, which I know would have made it even more difficult to install..

[@GCFD]

We were out there in one of the most intense rain events we've had here and the pipe handled it just fine. We even showed this in the video. What else can I do for future videos?

[@michaelfisher7835]

@@GCFD Where I live we could get some real heavy downpours that a set up like that couldnt handle. I could see where one home might work, but two is asking a bit much where I live. We have had some 4,6, and even 12" of rain in one event in the past. Add to that pea sized hail that came down in buckets and that 3" pipe would never handle it. My 4" just on my home alone, barely does sometimes.

[@samalj313]

Why is the drain water always just dumped in the streets like that? Is it that way all over the U.S.? Maybe it's just in smaller towns?

[@GCFD]

Because the streets are part of the stormwater management system. Great question!

[@samalj313]

@@GCFD Thanks for the reply. Yea i guess the streets then have storm water drains to take up the flow. Where I´m from (Denmark) we are obliged to keep rainwater on the property, or lead it directly to the surface water sewer. (sewage and surface water runs in separate lines)

[@Nitroracer2332]

Never understood why downspouts are not piped into to the street sewes as standard like they do in UK..

[@GCFD]

Because here in NC 99% of downspouts don't cause any problems. Keep in mind you're seeing the biggest problems on my channel. 👍

[@thebigmacd]

Surge capacity. In my city they used to pipe them into drains but they all had to be removed at some point. Water-logged lawns act as a surge accumulator for roof water, it delays entry into the drainage system.

[@ejbrumski3708]

Nice job, out of curiosity what does the price look like for a job like that?

[@GCFD]

There are a ton of variables that go into cost. For example the price of pipe has increased by 25% in the last three weeks. Fuel has gone up by that much in the last two days here.

[@ejbrumski3708]

@@GCFD So what was the price for that job you posted?

[@ivanolsen7966]

why is the communication line not in a plastic conduit ?

[@GCFD]

You'll have to ask the com company. They run cable rated for direct burial around here.

[@Landofmagic678]

if the city replaces the curb, will they reput in a hole?

[@GCFD]

I doubt it. But I have never heard of them replacing curbs around here. Great point!

[@ivanolsen7966]

why the straw ? why not grass - by - the -meter... or 'sodd ' as I think you call it

[@GCFD]

We seed + straw all areas we disturb. The straw protects the bare soil and seeds. We do sod if the customer chooses. 👍

[@OmertaDon]

Sod is faster but of course it cost more.

[@noitallmanaz]

you could have had cut the grass so you could place it back over the trench

[@GCFD]

The problem with that is settling. We leave the trench with dirt piled high so it can naturally settle around the pipe. This is because we have our pipe set to the fall we want and don't want to compact the soil and disturb the pipe. Cutting the sod off, placing the pipe, then placing the sod back on top looks great as we are pulling away but after a few rains the trench will reform and be aweful.

[@larryehrlich57]

Please teach your guy's to hold their cell phones horizontal when video recording. Why? Because then your video will be recorded in the "Widescreen" mode instead of the "Tall and Shiny" mode...as seen in the video by Mike.

[@GCFD]

I always tell everyone to hold it horizontal but everyone holds it vertical. I was out at the local pump track today riding my bike and a father was recording his son vertical. I though of you.

[@stuartmorris4932]

What do u do with the concrete cores.

[@alexplisko7794]

They auctioned the last one on eBay.

[@GCFD]

I posted them on eBay for any fans who are interested.

[@thomasvnl]

Why are all these cables put in the ground just like that? Where is the protective mantle or flex tubing? Also the depth is so shallow that that is just a tiny accident with a spade away from failure. Dafuq is wrong with the utility companies in the USA?

[@GCFD]

That's how they do it around here. These lines get cut in the spring when people are aerating their lawns because they are so shallow.

[@thomasvnl]

@@GCFD I can imagine. Feels like such a waste. Why do it one time right, like you with using smooth PVC instead of corrugated pipes, when you can do it wrong over and over again.

[@ivanolsen7966]

and if someone wants to put a fence in later ?

[@GCFD]

Then they install it.

[@delt19]

Might be helpful to apply some wd40 to the part of the pvc that goes in the concrete hole.

[@GCFD]

Great Idea! We like the tight fit but it can be tough to slide in.

[@delt19]

@@GCFD might be useful in case you need to pull it back some and refit it.

[@ea7side]

if you digging a trench anyway, why not add a french drain at the same time?

[@GCFD]

The trench for a french drain is 24" wide with several tons of gravel added.

[@shawnd567]

Thick grass, no mud. Seems like the water was doing its job.

[@GCFD]

👍👍

[@shawnd567]

@@GCFD The rain follow-up was awesome! Now I see what they were dealing with. Fantastic job. That cutout looked so good and the flow was unreal.

[@stevenolson4014]

Why do ya'll put hay down after?

[@GCFD]

It protects the bare soil from erosion, the seeds from birds, it holds moisture and releases nutrients as it decomposes.