Catholic and Protestant Get in HUGE DEBATE (not really)

[@pintswithaquinas]

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[@TyroneBeiron]

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[@gabrielv8767]

30:50 There are 2400 million Christians around the world. 1300 of them are Catholic, 800 Protestant and 300 Ortodox.

[@philotheos251]

Dr Brant Pitre has some great material on this!

[@youngrupee]

When is the first debate coming out?

[@yehoshuamelech7529]

Love your beard dude. Clearly Protestant is wrong here.

[@faithbaney]

My husband and I (and our five children) are almost a year into converting to the Catholic Church. When Matt was reflecting on the changes in his life if he were to leave the Church, it make me weepy. It’s been a hard road home, but we are almost there.

[@wendyhong8528]

I went through a lot of tears and hardship to become a Catholic thirty years ago. My social circle was very different once I had announced I would take a break from being Protestant. I am so glad I am a catholic and you will too. Thirty years later I never looked back. Welcome home! Welcome to the universal church!

[@Berlinquilla]

Yes! Thank you Lord for this sister and her family! They're coming home! Welcome! Welcome home!!!! 😊😊😊😊😊

[@alhilford2345]

As a "cradle" Catholic, I have a tremendous respect and admiration for converts who have left the comfort of their own faith for the Church. I can only imagine how difficult it must be. You are in the company of some very intellectual people. You're probably familiar with the recent converts in the U.S., but just look up Evelyn Waugh, G.K. Chesterton, Ronald Knox, Malcom Muggeridge and so many more. They were men who studied Catholic doctrine so that they could prove it wrong, but were honest enough to admit the truth. You are displaying that same honesty. My prayers are with you as you continue to learn so many more wonderful things about the Church.

[@JohnGeometresMaximos]

You should read the New Testament in Greek and think about embracing the Orthodox Christian Faith and Church.

[@DomhnallOSuileabhainPrin-tm1fw]

Dont give up on the truth

[@GratiaPrima_]

Summary: They’re getting a feel for each other and asking “what would change your mind?” before things get real 😂 I’m very much enjoying your conversations, gentlemen. Matt, you’re so right, as a Baptist to Catholic convert I didn’t do away with really anything I believed before. I just embraced the rest of the story. 😊

[@Philokalia12]

Matt and Cameron......I was brought up a nominal Catholic and then became an ardent Evangelical for 40 years. Then I began reading the Fathers with a group of Presbyterian Seminary graduates. Three of us became Orthodox and three of us Roman Catholic......me.....I went back to the Catholicism after 40 years as a pretty “engaged” Evangelical. It was like a time warp coming back. I do not regret the 40 years as an Evangelical. Evangelicals use song to praise the Lord much better than Catholics. I still say that Catholics forgot how to sing somewhere along their journey. One thing that helped me “revert” (I call it God calling me from one of his vineyards to another....at least to my close Evangelical friends). Let me say it was a frosty road for a while. What brought me back.....besides the witness of the Fathers? The Eucharist!!! When I first began venturing to Mass every time the priest would raise the consecrated host I would begin to weep. Somehow, I knew..... Blessings to you both!

[@drycleanernick7603]

Philokalia12 beautiful! Yes, it seems like a lot of evangelicals like the music better lol but to me it’s not about the music, it’s about the Eucharist.

[@DanielMaloneJr]

Dry cleaner nick Clearly you haven’t been to a Latin high mass. The music is a million times better than Protestant music.

[@drycleanernick7603]

Daniel Malone Jr. for me personally I agree with you lol! I’m just saying most evangelicals only know basic catholic mass not Latin mass.

[@sebastiangomez7730]

Daniel Malone Jr. not even a Latin mass, but a well performed and engaged mass makes all the difference. Im not a traditionalist or a modernist, though I prefer chant and organ. But what I think Evangelicals understand better than Catholics is that the songs are for the praise of God, outside of personal preference. If most of us went into mass with that perspective and sing fully at every mass, chanted or with a rock band or just guitar, I would think we’d enjoy it more and be directed towards worship far above Evangelicals

[@DanielMaloneJr]

Sebastian Gomez I completely disagree. I believe certain kinds of music are more CONDUCIVE to proper worship of God. Chant lifts our hearts up to God and the spiritual. Of course there are exceptions to this but that’s in spite of the chant not because of it. Modernist music is for entertainment and emotions not worship. The Church has always condemned this until post Vatican II

[@melaniegriesemer]

"two people who are disagreeing without being disagreeable" we need more of this in the world!

[@pintswithaquinas]

Why does Cameron, in the thumbnail, look like he wants to give me a full round house kick to the face? 😂

[@CapturingChristianity]

Because algorithm.

[@TyroneBeiron]

And Matt needs the new 2020 Apple Pod Studio (white) when it arrives so he has a proper aureole... 👼

[@EucharistMiracles]

😂 and you look like you want to say "bring it kid"

[@MystoRobot]

@@BrentKalar The beard was armor all along!!!

[@williamavitt8264]

@@xaviervelascosuarez "eternal death," the way annihationism puts it, is absolutely incompatible with both Catholic teaching and the Scriptures. It's another one of those "feel good" beliefs that Protestantism is rife with. Protestantism seems to always seek to disregard anything that's difficult. Faith alone, eternal security, annihilationism, these are all things that make failing in the Christian life easier to accept

[@wheretruthleads]

Hey Matt, protestant here. I just wanted to say I really enjoyed listening to this discussion and the transparency you two have in this dialogue! By the way, -the beard is solid, -I wish I knew you in real life because I love talking to open minded people like yourself on important differences we may have and because my DnD group disbanded so I would definitely hit you up for a DnD session haha.

[@margocatholic]

My bias is desperately wanting every person to know the Truth Christ revealed and for all people to be united in the Sacraments of the original Christian/Catholic faith.

[@eileen1820]

Not bias. His Truth, Sister. 🤗😊

[@junelledembroski9183]

Me too!

[@Darth_Vader258]

@@eileen1820 Are you a Catholic convert? I do NOT consider myself a Roman Catholic I just consider myself a Catholic with the Pope as it's head.

[@markmeyer4532]

I want you to read and accept scripture as it is rather than what you are told to believe by the Catholic church. I'm not affiliated with any church, so I carry no bias but lean entirely upon the authority and wisdom of scripture, which is without Catholic doctrine.

[@TheJason909]

@33:42 Matt is happy knowing that he's about to play a large role in Cameron's journey to Rome. ^_^

[@lukusmaximus]

Journey to Rome 🤦‍♂️

[@TheJason909]

@@lukusmaximus ???

[@maureenpratt4153]

Once, a spiritual director of mine told me that looking at Christianity from the Protestant viewpoint was like looking at it through a cracked open door. Looking at Christianity from the Catholic viewpoint is like flinging the door wide open! It made sense then and even more so now.

[@beyond0077]

Wow love that!

[@conservativecatholic9030]

Maureen Pratt Don’t give up on that director.

[@ryanskol83]

That was my experience too. That’s a great way to put it.

[@annali3822]

Well, the Bible says in Matthew 7:13, “ International Version "Enter through the NARROW gate. For WIDE is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it.” The whole basis of being a follower of Christ is to walk the NARROW path, not the broad path of the world.

[@anthonycalipjo8669]

@@annali3822 you're right about the verse... you're also right about the interpretation...but you get it all wrong in the application...❤️🤣❤️... Why??? Because there's only 1 billion Catholics in the whole world and over 2 billions Protestants total in different denominations, so who is really walking in the narrow path that you describe...❤️❤️❤️

[@floydfan82]

Please do a video on St. Thomas Aquinas writing, Catena Aurea. I believe BOTH Catholics and Protestants need to learn of this great resource for Sacred Scripture!

[@RomeBoys]

Watch The Rome Boys Show as we discuss the Similarities and Differences between Catholics and Protestants with Speaker, Author, and convert Steve Ray: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYiTpKxjhrSrY7c

[@jesussotelo4775]

I have a feeling Cam is gonna come home in the near future.

[@DavidTextle]

Jesus Sotelo funny i have the same feeling but about Matt :)

[@zayan6284]

@@DavidTextle if protestantism were true, im sure he would

[@namapalsu2364]

@@zayan6284 That's a good reply (I'm Catholic).

[@petars4444]

@@DavidTextle protestantism started 500years ago. Catholicism 2000. So..yeah, home would be catholicism.

[@jimmarker7910]

Oh yeah, he’s on his way Praise God!

[@galileovenica6449]

Boy I was supposed to study today, well I think it's not happening

[@pintswithaquinas]

That's the spirit! :)

[@Beanbag777]

You won’t get any betting learning then this

[@sebastiankramer8401]

Hahaha me too im procrastinating like hell love you guys We need more brotherhood in christianity

[@erravi]

Hahaha man I highly considered watching this instead of studying for AP Government. I decided against it thank goodness looool. now I'm back

[@luker8887]

I see your profile pic :) I can't wait for rhythm of war 😂

[@mariselabecerra1675]

What?!! A channel in Spanish!! My prayers have been heard! I mean, not for me, but your videos are so good that its so frustrating that I can never share them with my friends and family because they don't understand a word!! Wonderful, thank you, Matt!!!

[@Berlinquilla]

Yes! When he said that I was like 😲😲 yeesss! 😁😁😁😁 I'm so happy for this. Thank God

[@mariselabecerra1675]

Yeah, me too!! 👏 I can't wait! I don't know why in spanish there's not so much good Catholic content, most of it is boooring, lacking inteligence and life and humour! I've even felt tempted to create a channel myself, but I don't think I have what it takes... Its such a big responsability, not for eveyone.

[@Berlinquilla]

@@mariselabecerra1675 it is true, there aren't many Catholic channels in Spanish. There is one priest who is doing a tremendous job in apologetic, his name is Padre Luis Toro. There are plenty videos of him debating protestants. I must honestly say that for me he is sometimes to harsh with them but he's got a lot of knowledge, you should have a look.

[@mariselabecerra1675]

@@Berlinquilla Thanks for the recommendation, I'll check him out. I also love the channel of Smdani, a Spanish priest, do you know him? There are some good things, but they're not enough. And what's worse is that I'm afraid it reflects the reality offline in our parishes :(

[@eileen1820]

Can we just take a moment to appreciate the beard?!

[@MystoRobot]

Beards were so popular in the Early Church, bring back the trend!

[@briant2979]

Matt - I hope you asked: who founded your church and what year? 🧐

[@darkwater482]

Brian Toribio context is important. Read Acts 4:8-11 for Peter’s thoughts on the matter. Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner (Matthew 21:42) He is the Rock, his work is perfect... (Deuteronomy 32:4) Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; (Ephesians 2:19) For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. (Ephesians 5:23)

[@tylerpedersen9836]

Well put.

[@TarTelperienNumenor]

I'm Catholic and I even think that question is too simplistic and "gotcha!" -ish to be a good arguing point in actual discussions with Protestants. We all point to Christ.

[@briant2979]

I hope this clarify my intention in asking these questions. I can certainly see how these questions can be posed in a mean spirited way, or just to win an argument. But these questions are important... (As a former protestant) I wanted to know why I believed the Holy Spirit let the Church go astray about the truth of the Sacraments for over a millennia.

[@briant2979]

@@darkwater482 These texts do not answer the questions I asked. Which are, if you belong to a Protestant Church (from any denomination or branch) do you know who was the person who founded it and what was the reason (in the last 500 years)

[@gussiemer8789]

Finals? Homework? No, Matt Fradd calls to me.

[@matthewantero5960]

Cameron might as well be my favorite Protestant. Let's pray for him.

[@LaFedelaIglesia]

Thanks for the video Matt!

[@eileen1820]

I am not great at apologetics with protestants. There's often such animus towards Catholicism and seems they enjoy the lies that we're not monotheistic. I like to ask them why they think Christ let Christians worship "incorrectly" for a millennia and a half. Like THAT seems impossible to defend. (I told you I was bad at this lol)

[@Ezekiel336-16]

Protestants will make you a better Catholic because they will compel you, if you are serious about conversing with them and defending our Lord and Catholicism, to learn and live your faith to truly high degree; all while knowing your (Catholic) Bible much better. In doing so, you may realize as I did that many of them are wonderful at memorizing verses but terrible at taking them out of context to suit any argument that they like. Also, the King James version of the Bible when compared to Catholic translations has some very serious differences, even in single words, that greatly effect the lived faith for each group of believers. For example, the protestant bible says people can get divorced for adultery while ours says only if the marriage is unlawful. Words matter, especially since the word of God is living and active in the Bible and His word brought all things to life. In Christ, Andrew

[@julieelizabeth4856]

@@Ezekiel336-16 Catholic Answers (catholic.com) has a great article about this. Protestants like to say that the Bible is "perfectly clear" on this whole divorce because of adultery, but it's actually more complicated than it sounds once it is looked at thoroughly.

[@rampayge1977]

Capturing Catholicism has a nice ring to it...just sayin'

[@ctuero]

hmmmm I just feel like Cam is going to LOVE the rich history of scholarship and theology in Catholicism.... so curious about the future of these discussions!!!!! I def want a debate on "sola scriptura" and how many interpretations has Cameron heard over the years for similar passages and how he reconciles interpretation of scripture if the scripture is considered fully guiding and comprehensible on its own. THANKS GUYS!

[@borneandayak6725]

God bless you Matt Fradd

[@eugengolubic2186]

To read Plato's Republic or watch a discussion between Cameron and Matt? I have time tomorrow to read

[@hamsterforever7670]

Thank you for making the most important distinction: we're talking doctrine, what the Church teaches, not the faithful. People are people, are different

[@anne4989]

Unrelated to this video, but I didn't know where else to put questions. Hey Matt, can you consider doing a video of whether women should be in the military? Namely, whether it is contradictory to femininity or 'feminine genius' to be in that environment. I don't mean combat jobs (which is a whole other topic), but just the military in general.

[@real_azul_luza]

Thanks Matt and Cameron.

[@rdh288]

I'm a bit jealous listening to this. I'd love to have these discussions with either of them. As someone who believes that the Bible is the literal and only authority, there is probably much (probably different things) that I would disagree with them both on and a nice, relaxed discussion trying to teach but trying to be open minded would be so much fun!

[@corporateshill7473]

Wow, William Lane Craig looks great with his new haircut!!

[@pintswithaquinas]

Wait ... who looks like WLC?

[@dietrichotto14]

@@pintswithaquinas Haha yeah neither of you guys do

[@corporateshill7473]

@@pintswithaquinas The blonde Protestant.

[@namapalsu2364]

I'm a Catholic, so..... The strongest argument against Catholicism by Protestant (or any other non Catholic, including atheista) is any doctrine infallibly define by the Church. Cameron Bertuzzi got it right on this. Catholic claims as the infallible Church with infallible teachings guarantee by the Holy Spirit. If any one of those defined teachings (not all teachings are defined and infallble teachings) is proven to be false then the Catholic Church falls. That is the weakest point for Catholicism and recognized by both Bertuzzi and Fradd. Even Fradd said to Bertuzzi that as a Protestant he (Bertuzzi) has much freedom. A Protestant can disbelieve Baptismal regeneration and still be a Protestant (to use Fradd's example). But a Catholic must believe all defined articles of faith, even the most obscure or of lesser important ones if he wants to continue being Catholic. If ask, what is the weakest defined teachings/article of faith,, in my personal opinion, I would suggest the immaculate conception. Now, what is Protestantatism weakest point? In my personal opinion there are two: 1. The fact that it started in the 16th century. 2. Sola Scriptura On the first one, I would always say that Christ founded the Church on the first century (Matt 16:18). So if your Church is not around during that time, it's not the Church that Christ built. If a Protestant would say that the Church apostasized somewhere along the way and revert back to faith, then he would be assuming that the Church built by God could apostasized, which is impossible. On the second one, the canon of scripture is not in either the Old Testament nor the New Testament. It has to be from somewhere else, and this violates Sola Scriptura. That is my take on it.

[@namapalsu2364]

@broody snoody I don't see anything wrong with man making rules. What is wrong is man making bad rules. So, don't throw the baby with the bathwater. And no there was no raiding of Gold. You've succumbed to silly pop-myth.

[@jturon9184]

Hi Matt, can you argue for the idea there is only salvation through the Church please. Thanks both of you!

[@eileen1820]

Cameron please come enjoy the fullness of the beautiful Catholic Faith and its sacraments. Jesus asks us to eat His Body and drink His Blood. Praying for your conversion 💗.

[@felipetejeda7545]

I absolutely agree with learning about the opposite persons view. I’m a Catholic but I have never shied away from listening to and reading prominent atheist and Protestants, I want to know their arguments as well as they do. True conviction of your faith is embracing dissenting views and understanding them, not shielding yourself from them.

[@myrddingwynedd2751]

Absolutely right about confirmation bias. Most people who believe in God want God to exist, and most people who don`t don`t want him to exist, and we search out the information that confirms our desire. So true. Atheists are very dishonest though about the reasons they don`t believe. They never admit that it`s a matter of having to be accountable to a higher power for their life and how they live it. They want moral autonomy to a large extent, and to decide for themselves what is right or wrong according to their own moral compass. The "There is no evidence" argument is just utterly disingenuous, and they often oversimplify complex matters to arrive at such a viewpoint. For me personally, I want God to exist. I don`t want life to have no transcendent meaning or no value beyond what we subjectively give it. I also don`t want life to end at death, that is tragic for me. I also want justice done for those who have committed terrible acts of evil but have gotten away with it in this life. But regardless of all that, if the arguments for God`s existence are unconvincing, then I must abandon belief in God. For me, being reasonably intelligent, not a genius, not the sharpest or dullest tool in the box, the arguments for God`s existence are satisfactory. Furthermore, I have had extremely profound experiences of God in my life, and no one, and I mean NO ONE will ever convince me of the miraculous occurrence in my life. When Jesus comes and delivers you, you know it unequivocally.

[@nathanturska1994]

Matt keep the beard!

[@jshauns]

"James White?"....."Uh... No." (eww) hahaha

[@myrddingwynedd2751]

I`m a catholic who abandoned/turned against Catholicism. I wasn`t happy to do so, but I did it because I thought that I had discovered information that successfully refuted and utterly demonized Catholicism. Later, I found that the knowledge that I had come across wasn`t quite what it seemed to be, and it was basically misinformation, conspiracy theories and straw man arguments. I admit, I lacked knowledge at the time, and obviously to some extent still do. Anyhow, I returned to Catholicism (I say returned, although I didn`t join a protestant church, I was just dead against Catholicism) and am totally comfortable in it. The point is, always follow the truth, even if it hurts to leave what you believed to be true. I will always follow where the information leads, and if information came to light once more refuting Catholicism, I would leave again. To date, no such information has come to light, and I`m always listening to what protestants have to say. This much is true though, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

[@julieelizabeth4856]

Be careful of your sources of information. You say you would leave again if more information came to light. There is no way to know the truth of Catholicism from anti-Catholic sources, and there are plenty of those out there.

[@ronaller5209]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/a6GnlZxtq91kqKM

[@killianmiller6107]

“This is the most beautiful mug I have ever seen” Steven Crowder would like to know your location

[@camer138]

Crowder confronts! Mug edition!

[@marieaboagye1920]

😂😂😂 fr

[@jlicato]

Food for thought and possible future conversation. a lot of talk about what you’d lose if you switched “church” positions, what might be some things that would be gained? Also for Matt, if the indulgence domino falls would all catholic doctrine fall. You seemed to hint that if one doctrine is false they all might be? And if you can shed indulgences are you not on the same path as the Protestants, albeit much slower :) thanks guys enjoy the convo. This video was mis-titled though. Should been “Protestant and Catholic talk about their plans to disagree on future unknown topics :) genuinely appreciate what you both do though.

[@georgejungle5661]

I am just wondering what the protestants say about the Saints in believing the Real Presence in the Holy Eucharist? Or about Miracles of the Saints, or about Eucharistic Miracles, or with all Marian Apparitions with so many witnesses. Why is there confusion?

[@pattycake1234]

Hi everyone ! I’m a former catholic that converted to becoming a Protestant. If you guys have any questions about my conversion and why I converted I’d love to answer !

[@KingSquirtle999]

Lol no thanks I never ask why someone throws away a diamond for a ring pop I just get the diamond

[@Name-le2cc]

It's nice to see you like this. Working together though you have disagreement between you

[@fraylanx3819]

I'll be tuning in to each episode

[@jacobali5555]

Please do more of these!

[@jordand5732]

Thanks Matt. Simply amazing content. So nice to see conversations like this.

[@JAWesquire373]

Oof...I definitely wanted to watch this but $10 a month is pretty steep given this pandemic. Any way you guys could release the first one free?

[@sethgarries3219]

There was a fascinating study done where they took atheists and Christians and instructed them to defend the opposing position to the best of their ability. Each side spoke anonymously and were evaluated on the strength and knowledge of the other side's position. Interestingly, Christians were overwhelmingly more capable of defending atheist viewpoints than atheists were of defending Christian beliefs. I need to go dig up the link to it, but it was a fascinating insight on how Christians are generally aware of atheist arguments but have overcome them, while atheists generally just dismiss Christian beliefs offhand without really trying to honestly consider them.

[@anepicflyingbrick_4872]

Pretty interesting

[@shaunalea823]

It's interesting but I would never consider leaving the protestant church, i see the love Catholics have and I think it's beautiful but I l8ve the simplicity I see in the protestant beliefs

[@taylorabeel407]

From one photographer to another, I love the perfect Rembrandt lighting Cameron! Ha ha!

[@billsd13]

14:30ish - I get what you are saying Matt. I feel biased in this way: I believe I have more to lose than a Protestant. I admit feeling biased in that way.

[@luciaobix]

Absolutely loving these discussions between you guys! Any info on the Spanish KZbin channels? Because that sounds AMAZING.

[@ctuero]

Also is there a video of Cameron’s I can watch to see his whole faith and church and basic belief structures ??? He obviously can’t come at this debate as the whole of Protestant churches

[@nicolasramirez3944]

Beautifully put Matt about being open to following the truth and it’s difficulties, if that were to mean abandoning Catholicism.

[@mkultravictimbf]

That patristic beard is looking good on you Matt. God bless!

[@chrispy4636]

Can you debate the bible? I never know how to approach people when their bibles are missing a ton of stuff

[@jerodfrank6419]

Lifelong Baptist turned Catholic here. I think there are a few different ways to talk about it. The best questions I have heard are “Where in the Bible does it say that the Bible is the sole, infallible rule of faith?”, “Who had the authority to decide on the books that are in your Bible, since the full contents of scripture are not laid out in scripture?”

[@Ezekiel336-16]

It's not hard and doesn't need to be a stumbling block, because most of what we have in our additional 7 books can be found elsewhere in some fashion in their 66 books. There is of course the very short reference to praying for the dead that we have in Maccabees, with regards to purgatory, but there are places in the NT that are likely alluding to that as well. Regardless, purgatory should not be a doctrine that either church holds as essential and in effect exclusionary from coming together with the other. It should be explored between the two as "worthy of belief" but not required since everyone who goes to purgatory is already saved anyway. We should be arguing essential principals of salvation and not unessential personal preferences. In Christ, Andrew

[@chrispy4636]

@@Ezekiel336-16 I mostly agree. I was asking because I was having trouble arguing the reality of mortal sin with a Baptist. They have all the books in which it is mentioned but the particular paragraphs are missing.

[@Ezekiel336-16]

@@chrispy4636 I'm being lazy, meaning not looking it up for you, but if you Google "all sin is wrongdoing but not deadly - bible" it should direct you to Saint Paul easy enough. Paul in that letter, to which community I don't remember, talks about all sin being wrong (doing) but not all deadly. Also, somewhere before or after he says that, he explains in detail pretty clearly what he means. If that doesn't help, or you can't find it, please respond back and I'll look it up and direct you more specifically. In Christ, Andrew

[@RyanCasey007]

Godspeed in this endeavor, Matt!

[@misbehavens]

You guys have to watch the Foundations Restored series. It will provide a ton of scientific and theological information on the topic of human evolution. It’s really a great, very thorough series. Worth every penny.

[@FM-cf2hy]

Please talk about all the questions about the images,the vigen mary, year of the catholic church began and the year the protestans church began

[@saramarquardt9077]

Matt, why are you letting Cameron show you up with his superior camera quality? I really enjoy watching you both, God Bless you.

[@keithrobinson5528]

A discussion on what it would look like to have a discussion between a Catholic and Protestant.

[@Andrew-sj9tr]

11:40 wow. That’s a humble take and it takes courage to say that

[@jesusthroughmary]

So the Italian is Protestant and the Aussie is Catholic. Fascinating.

[@MartySarmaidoff]

Not sure if your social media guy reports requests to you Matt, but here goes: follow the turtles. In a world where there’s always someone smarter who has the answer the only way to succeed in a project like this is to find the primal underlying assumption that can support the weight of the network of logical connections you’ve built on top of it. There can be any number of stones that are strong enough. Christ and him crucified obviously is the cornerstone. But in the papacy debate, for instance, look into the mystical void of personal experience (or some other such claptrap) and ask the absolute core of the question: Are all men created equal? Or is there a first among brothers? Follow those turtles. All the way down. God bless.

[@bobbiceryanec3766]

I am right now watching Catholic and Protestant on my IPad. As a 83 year old woman cradle Catholic believe Matt SHOULD not EVEN TRY NOT TO QUESTION HIS ONE TRUE CATHOLIC FAITH and the Younger Man Trent, he has time to look at CATHOLICISM , right now is hard to not question our Pope at this mixed up time - so you 2 keep talking to each other, but again Matt, do not question any of these, Matt you have a family, so do not question! Amen 🙏

[@anepicflyingbrick_4872]

What

[@ladyowl9187]

I'm diggin the beard.....😬

[@jackharwood3868]

Matt Fradd - do you wear a scapular, if so which one? If you do not, what necklace do you wear?

[@marijabriski1350]

This debate sounds so much better on 2X speed😂

[@mad_marc2757]

It really is a beautiful mug Matt. I'm gonna get one sooner or later.

[@jordand5732]

This is sooooooooooooo good. Halfway through.

[@rubenmartinez4346]

Dang it! Where was the debate??? Anyways I truly respect Cameron and him being open to Catholicism.

[@johntolkien3991]

I want a mug just like that, "Pints with Aquinas", I tried to find one on website but couldn't find it. Can anyone help me with getting one?

[@bham7bh]

This is an awesome idea. Very exciting! Where can I find the referenced original debate?

[@alejandrinahs]

Cameron looks like he’s Skywalker either resisting or learning the force. 🤍

[@elainelksuabernet]

I’m Catholic and I’m home. Learn the faith and you will grow in it, don’t just go to mass not understanding the faith… you will never understand how deep the catholic faith is until you learn and understand it

[@yehoshuamelech7529]

I love Matt's beard

[@joanark3896]

I think those premium stuff should be only avaliable to patrons- on both channels -- to make people to subscribe - like Owen Benjamin did on Dlive- only people who subscribed can post stuff- it brings people to subscribe- maybe U can post bits and bobs- but its great idea to have subscribtions- after maybe 6 months it can be posted fully...

[@kathyoleen]

I tried to attend Protestant churches... a multitude, actually. You have to be willing to give up the beauty, the reverence, the humbling genuflection and kneeling g to Jesus, we swear our legions to Jesus with every genuflect. Plus the highest torture, starvation of the Eucharist. To be able to eat.. consume as a Christ said His Body and Drink His blood is nourishment to my soul. You are after all what you eat❤️

[@junelledembroski9183]

Yeah I started Protestant, went Catholic, work kind of pushed me to going to Protestant churches again and then I quit that job and I love my Catholic Church. When you become Catholic from being Protestant, you can never go back if you love the Lord.

[@jaimearviso4642]

You can worship God at home. Styles vary, but principles and doctrines are what matter. THE Holy Spirit lives in you so I don't see the need to eat Jesus.

[@kathyoleen]

Jaime Arviso yes, God is everywhere and should be worshiped everywhere, I have candles, a crucifix, etc where I worship Christ at home. But ONLY during the Eucharistic Liturgy of the Mass does heaven touch the alter and through transubstantiation does Christ’s body blood, soul and divinity presents itself into the host. Read up on “Eucharistic miracles”. In John 6 how many times does Jesus say we must eat his body and Drink his blood? He wasn’t just saying. Jesus meant what he said, said what he meant. Lost many followers. Jesus is present in the Host! Tha k you Jesus🥰

[@anepicflyingbrick_4872]

@@kathyoleen yes but did you not recognize the trend that Jesus continually spoke in figurative language throughout the gospels?

[@kathyoleen]

@@anepicflyingbrick_4872 does He?

[@michaylaacker3456]

I mean, I wasn't too sure about the beard at first - there was a bit of a rough patch at one point - but I think it looks good now! lol

[@oroyplataman]

The Catholic understanding is that there was a Literal Adam and Eve. In Jesus' own words: "Have you not read that He who CREATED them from the BEGINNING made them male and female?" Adam and Eve were not conceived, but created without original sin. If they were conceived, then Mary would not be THE Immaculate Conception, but simply the Third Immaculate Conception.

[@skinnersco7612]

Great to see Guardini’s, The Lord on Matt’s bookshelf

[@alericp97]

I really wanted to watch this ...I tot it was on KZbin untill i heard u say only for patreons..10$ in India is 750 INR which is a lot

[@kristinec212]

My biggest issue with catholic faith ( grew up catholic) I use to always say this is just a pagan religion mix with jesus. I always felt like it was idol worship. After I realized they took that commandment out, the very pagan style rituals and things that I asked about, found the bible didnt say that. I have all my sacraments but walked away from the church long ago... practiced a bunch or pagan religions and then found my way back to jesus.

[@Andromedon777]

So I have a fiance who we're exploring Christ in deeper ways, and despite her up bringing being Catholic school and such and being a practicing catholic, she is starting to get the bigger picture of what it means to be a genuine follower of Christ. But I fear her family is just catholic by practice and, despite then being wonderful people, I wonder how their relationship with Christ actually is. What led you away from it, and what led you to Christ?

[@michaellancaster8221]

Matt, your beard is awesome bro. Don’t listen to the haters 😄

[@primesakk5667]

u know its ma first time seeing Protestant and catholic having a friendly talk we need more of this priest fighting pastor pastor fighting priest its just annoying we need more of this friendly talk

[@scapescale]

[My side] totally destroyed [Opposing side]. Wow [my side] really showed them who's boss. Nice job [Opposing side] at being intellectually dishonest! Educate yourself! (/s)

[@constantdoodle32]

Nice! Something to shoot me down the rabbit hole before I go to sleep.

[@shepherdessinthefray]

Lovely idea... not so lovely price for me 😞

[@emilyhanes2599]

Do one on forensic soteriology, y'know, imputed vs infused grace.

[@gussetma1945]

There is only one question that counts concerning what constitutes Christian orthodoxy. That question is "says who?" Catholics have a coherent answer to this question. Prods don't; It won't do to say the "Bible says." The Bible doesn't say anything. Among the Prod, pastor Joe says, "the Bible says thus and so." Pastor Bob says, "Pastor Joe is so misguided. Anybody can see that the Bible really says the opposite." If Catholics are right that the answer is, "says Holy Mother the Church," If the Prods are right, no question can ever be resolved.

[@erravi]

The beard is great!!

[@erravi]

As soon as I get my summer job I'm gonna join the patreon :)

[@ArkEleven1]

i think it looks really cool matt

[@Vereglez-d4z]

I like the beard 🧔, Matt!

[@FreshPrince0fMiami]

My dilemma with the bias topic is are you really bias on truth? For example Jordan says 2+1 is 3, obviously. But Jake says “its 4, you’re just being bias” that is my problem with “positions” on things seeking truth, one position has to be truth. So how is that person who’s position is correct, Jordan saying 2+1 is 3 would be bias. Even further is bias necessarily bad, specially when the view is blatantly correct?

[@BDON]

The Catholic Church’s Dogmatic beleifs have never changed but some traditions do. Traditions are allowed to change just like traditions in our own famalies do

[@TruthHasSpoken]

*One commonality between Catholic's and Protestants:* Both protestants and Catholic's have a bible with 27 New Testament writings, no more, no less, out of some 300+ early Christian writings, decided by late 4th century Catholic Bishops. *One Difference:* Catholic's trust that these very same Bishops got the Old Testament canon corrected, 46 writings. Protestants believe that they error'd and all Christianity error'd for the next 1100 years on this canon. To believe that the Church error'd on the latter, but got the former right is to be inconsistent. One should very much distrust the NT canon if they believe that the very same Church got the OT canon wrong. Neither list is found in scripture.

[@joanark3896]

Ah , no @Matt Fradd - how come I ve missed that? I listen one i think protestant readung Old Testament but he tells me that I need to get away from the sort of satanic Catholic Church- he tells me that i m on a way to hell being in the Catholic CHurch , also that we worship Mary and she s only been a woman...so I asked if there was no Mary than Jesus wouldnt be born...so he told me that if there was no Mary than God would choose a different humbe woma....so we back to the square one: Protestants hate Mary- they say that God would choose a different woman to give birth to Jesus ...so they would hate her too... If God chose for example not Miriam/Mary but Sarah or Helen....than Protestants would hate them too accusing catholics to follow a wrong religion and worshiping in that subject Virgin Sarah or Virgin Helen ???? yes ? If God chose a girl name Sarah so we would have no Virgin Mary but Virgin Sarah-Mother of God - and Protestants would not like her too - same like they dont like Virgin Mary- so their arguments are not good- Its really sad that they dont like Virgin Mary so much- Jesus loved His MOther and He still loves Her the same so out of respect for Jesus - we,ordinary people should love what Jesus loves...yes?

[@aei2023]

Although they are not Catholic, Protestants need much prayer because they want to love as much as any of us. Jesus wants all of us to get to get to heaven. Blessed mother and all the saints and angels I. Heaven, pray for us. Souls in purgatory, pray for us. Sacred heart of Jesus, have mercy on us.

[@kristinacatherine5121]

@26:00 - annihilationism is not I compatible with Catholicism. The only dogma about hell is that it exists, is eternal, and you can go there. It is not defined what that means though. So hell could be an eternal place where you go to be annihilated.

[@reillyclaxton9737]

I would love to see videos as well of you guys talking about the stuff you DO agree on, and how maybe you can both offer different views on those beliefs!