Catholic Purgatory! (Catholic Teaching on Purgatory)

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@el-sig2249
@el-sig2249 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Brian. I think you meant the "general" judgement when you said "particular" judgement. The particular judgement is the individual judgement at the time of death, while the general judgement is universal, when our Lord returns, gathers all humanity and separates the sheep from the goats.
@CatholicTruthOfficial
@CatholicTruthOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
Did I say particular? Doh!! You are right. The Particular and Individual are the same thing. It was a misspeak and I did mean the general. Thank you for clarifying. I will pin this comment to the top.
@572checo21
@572checo21 2 жыл бұрын
@@CatholicTruthOfficial So your saying that a soul in purgatory is God's love? Absolutely disgusting!
@williambillycraig1057
@williambillycraig1057 Жыл бұрын
I am a Baptist; I was speaking to someone that I believe is a Catholic that goes by the KZbin name Qwerty. We talked about Purgatory, and he recommended this video; I am glad he did. Thank you for making this video; it cleared up some misconceptions about this issue. Also, Qwerty was well-spoken and represented the Chatloic faith very well.
@CatholicTruthOfficial
@CatholicTruthOfficial Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. So glad it was helpful. God bless.
@patrickkenney2536
@patrickkenney2536 2 жыл бұрын
I love being Catholic
@sm5037
@sm5037 2 жыл бұрын
Me too
@RosaryFGC
@RosaryFGC 2 жыл бұрын
Becoming catholic was the greatest decision I ever made. Christ be with you brother
@RosaryFGC
@RosaryFGC 2 жыл бұрын
@@minterbell and that church is the catholic church, I'm not trying to be toxic but it's clearly the catholic church
@RosaryFGC
@RosaryFGC 2 жыл бұрын
@@minterbell (Matt. 16:18)
@RosaryFGC
@RosaryFGC 2 жыл бұрын
@@minterbell what church did peter make
@thebigloc1
@thebigloc1 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. It is what I believe myself but at work some colleagues make fun of my faith and keep shouting about how purgatory does not exist anymore. Most saying it are lapsed Catholics who only go to mass for weddings, Christmas, baptisms, funerals, first confession, communion, confirmation of a relative. When you try to explain purgatory to them they interrupt loudly and will not listen. Some even say they don't believe in God saying if you are good you go to heaven and if you are bad you go to hell and purgatory is like limbo, it no longer exists. If they don't believe in God how can they believe in heaven and hell? I feel so heartbroken over people like that.
@marcihf217
@marcihf217 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly the worse anti-Catholics are ex-Catholics. They are wrong in what they say. You can tell they are wrong by the way the talk/behave and contradict themselves. Just pray for them and don't lose sleep over them. Jesus tells us to evangelize and if people don't want to listen (example: just fight and argue), then dust your sandals and walk away.
@thebigloc1
@thebigloc1 2 жыл бұрын
@@marcihf217 perfectly said. I will remember that. Thank you so much. 🙏
@marcihf217
@marcihf217 2 жыл бұрын
@@thebigloc1 You are welcome ❤
@consmbato8216
@consmbato8216 2 жыл бұрын
Stay strong and keep praying including praying for those who mock our faiths. God Bless.
@BeHis247
@BeHis247 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You Jesus 🙏🏽😊❤️
@timothyharris8670
@timothyharris8670 2 жыл бұрын
I understand now ..great explanation, thanks bro
@CatholicTruthOfficial
@CatholicTruthOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@572checo21
@572checo21 2 жыл бұрын
DO YOU WANT TO GO TO HEAVEN? The Bible declares, “For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God” (Romans 3:23 KJV). Because of sin, none of us can pay the price to enter heaven. Regardless of how many “good” works we do, we are still sinners by birth, unable to merit God’s favor. We have come short of God’s righteous standards. Thus, in order to enter heaven, we need God’s righteousness. The good news is that, through the finished crosswork of Jesus Christ on Calvary, we can be made “the righteousness of God in Christ” (2 Corinthians 5:21 KJV). We can receive God’s righteousness as a free gift! We can receive eternal salvation from our sins! “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast” (Ephesians 2:8,9 KJV). “The wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord” (Romans 6:23 KJV). “Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ” (Romans 5:1 KJV). “But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us” (Romans 5:8 KJV). “In whom [Christ] we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace” (Ephesians 1:7 KJV). “In whom [Christ] we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins” (Colossians 1:14 KJV). “For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich” (2 Corinthians 8:9 KJV). “But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness” (Romans 4:5 KJV). “What must I do to be saved? Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved” (Acts 16:30,31 KJV). Salvation = Faith + Nothing. It is free to you because Jesus Christ paid the price. Do you believe that? Have you fully trusted in that alone for salvation? Jesus Christ (God manifested in human flesh), in His great love, grace, and mercy, paid the penalty for our sins. The Gospel of the Grace of God which saves lost mankind is: “Christ died for our sins, He was buried, and He rose again the third day” (1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV). The Lord Jesus Christ shed His sinless blood to forgive us our sins, but the Bible declares that anyone who rejects the Gospel of Grace will have to pay for his or her sins in the lake of fire for all eternity. When you trust exclusively in the Lord Jesus Christ as your personal Saviour, Jesus Christ’s righteousness will be applied to you. Jesus Christ is perfect, so His righteousness imputed to us is our only means of getting into heaven. Will you trust in Christ Jesus alone as your personal Saviour? I hope you will accept God’s offer today!
@jasminemariedarling
@jasminemariedarling Жыл бұрын
When I was going to an Assemblies of God church, the pastor did a teaching on Jesus cleansing us with fire after death. So a lot of protestants believe in a purgatory-like situation, they just don't call it that. If we all believe the Bible, we all have a lot more in common than we think ❤
@CatholicTruthOfficial
@CatholicTruthOfficial Жыл бұрын
I think the protestant reformers were the first ones who invented these, but I think they were made popular and codified in fundamentalist even jealocal circles in the early 1900s in Fundamentalist evangelical circles. They were a reaction to liberal protestantism and getting back to the basics.
@williamkish6823
@williamkish6823 7 ай бұрын
A cleansing fire after death is like a total life review.
@sm5037
@sm5037 2 жыл бұрын
I was protestant evangelical THANK GOD i am catholic
@CatholicTruthOfficial
@CatholicTruthOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
Amen!🙌 Welcome home!
@sm5037
@sm5037 2 жыл бұрын
@@CatholicTruthOfficial thanks
@Citizen9134_
@Citizen9134_ 2 жыл бұрын
Catholicism is a false religion. Praying to Mary is idolatry. The sabbath is not the first day.
@572checo21
@572checo21 2 жыл бұрын
DO YOU WANT TO GO TO HEAVEN? The Bible declares, “For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God” (Romans 3:23 KJV). Because of sin, none of us can pay the price to enter heaven. Regardless of how many “good” works we do, we are still sinners by birth, unable to merit God’s favor. We have come short of God’s righteous standards. Thus, in order to enter heaven, we need God’s righteousness. The good news is that, through the finished crosswork of Jesus Christ on Calvary, we can be made “the righteousness of God in Christ” (2 Corinthians 5:21 KJV). We can receive God’s righteousness as a free gift! We can receive eternal salvation from our sins! “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast” (Ephesians 2:8,9 KJV). “The wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord” (Romans 6:23 KJV). “Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ” (Romans 5:1 KJV). “But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us” (Romans 5:8 KJV). “In whom [Christ] we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace” (Ephesians 1:7 KJV). “In whom [Christ] we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins” (Colossians 1:14 KJV). “For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich” (2 Corinthians 8:9 KJV). “But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness” (Romans 4:5 KJV). “What must I do to be saved? Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved” (Acts 16:30,31 KJV). Salvation = Faith + Nothing. It is free to you because Jesus Christ paid the price. Do you believe that? Have you fully trusted in that alone for salvation? Jesus Christ (God manifested in human flesh), in His great love, grace, and mercy, paid the penalty for our sins. The Gospel of the Grace of God which saves lost mankind is: “Christ died for our sins, He was buried, and He rose again the third day” (1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV). The Lord Jesus Christ shed His sinless blood to forgive us our sins, but the Bible declares that anyone who rejects the Gospel of Grace will have to pay for his or her sins in the lake of fire for all eternity. When you trust exclusively in the Lord Jesus Christ as your personal Saviour, Jesus Christ’s righteousness will be applied to you. Jesus Christ is perfect, so His righteousness imputed to us is our only means of getting into heaven. Will you trust in Christ Jesus alone as your personal Saviour? I hope you will accept God’s offer today!
@Smootcheee
@Smootcheee 2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget that the souls in purgatory need our help as well. Purgatory may be the mercy and sanctifying grace of God but some poor yet holy souls have been experiencing the fires of purgatory for hundreds of years. Pray the St. Gertrude prayer and Chaplet daily for the forgotten souls.
@bobdobbs943
@bobdobbs943 2 жыл бұрын
I hate to be the poopoo in the punch bowl but, ive been noticing that catholic or catholic doctrine refers to the souls in pergatory as the Holy Souls in pergatory. I have one burning question; What in the Sam Hill are Holy Souls doing in the flames of some place of fire and torment? Why is god tossing something holy into the flames of torment?
@jodieelizabeth4905
@jodieelizabeth4905 2 жыл бұрын
Amen 🙏
@Smootcheee
@Smootcheee 2 жыл бұрын
@@bobdobbs943 because not all the holy souls are perfect and ready for heaven
@bobdobbs943
@bobdobbs943 2 жыл бұрын
@@Smootcheee Holy means perfect and set aside. Jesus is holy.
@CatholicTruthOfficial
@CatholicTruthOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
Bob. Being purified. 1 Cor. 3:13-15. Fire if just a symbol in this case of purification. The Holy Spirit is even called the all consuming fire.
@MarisolGarcia-pr4mp
@MarisolGarcia-pr4mp Жыл бұрын
That makes sense to me! Thank you! Now I know that someday I´ll be in heaven! I was so uncertain because it´s true that nothing impure can enter in Heaven. And anyone can see that we need purification.
@candyclews4047
@candyclews4047 2 жыл бұрын
Mother Angelica always used to say it was easy for believers to go straight to heaven - we just need to be doing 'the will of God'
@marcihf217
@marcihf217 2 жыл бұрын
❤❤❤
@JMJ1219
@JMJ1219 2 жыл бұрын
St. Therese taught the same thing. 🙏
@thebigloc1
@thebigloc1 2 жыл бұрын
I love watching the best of mother Angelica live on EWTN. A very wise woman God rest her soul. I am so grateful she brought us EWTN.
@candyclews4047
@candyclews4047 2 жыл бұрын
@@thebigloc1 I agree. I love saying the Rosary with her, even after all these years :)
@camp5607
@camp5607 2 жыл бұрын
Matthew 7:13-14 13 “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.
@AngelGonzalez-ng9ve
@AngelGonzalez-ng9ve 2 жыл бұрын
🥊🥊🥊🥊 ima donate soon as o get paid for the next round.. Good vido Sr. Mercier... Keep it up.... 👌🏼🙌🏼🙏🏼🕊️👌🏼
@pfevrier01
@pfevrier01 2 жыл бұрын
Love your channel. Greetings from Belgium.
@Two_Bluebirds
@Two_Bluebirds 2 жыл бұрын
God bless you, Bryan!
@loraliecataldi1975
@loraliecataldi1975 8 ай бұрын
As a youngster I thought purgatory was like a lesser form of hell but not permanent
@nonoyyonon8228
@nonoyyonon8228 2 жыл бұрын
We can help by praying the souls
@mosesfernandes75
@mosesfernandes75 2 жыл бұрын
God bless you Bryan.
@justinalia5445
@justinalia5445 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on how much do souls stay in purgatory?
@camp5607
@camp5607 2 жыл бұрын
There is only heaven and hell
@camp5607
@camp5607 2 жыл бұрын
@@G-MIP how do you know when enough is enough?
@KingaHorsztynska
@KingaHorsztynska 4 ай бұрын
Only God knows how long souls stay in purgatory.
@KingaHorsztynska
@KingaHorsztynska 4 ай бұрын
​@@camp5607You will be totally surprised in the future, when you will die and you will find yourself in purgatory.
@danderth
@danderth 2 жыл бұрын
while I don't agree, I do appreciate your lesson on purgatory, and can see where you'd get the idea for it.
@southfloridaspeed3681
@southfloridaspeed3681 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a Born jew, turned Protestant at 25, now Full Catholic at 28. I Thank God. I kept asking him to show me the full truth. I never thought I’d be Catholic! But now I’m in the process of being baptized! I love being Catholic. I attend an SSPX church. I love it and I love our priest! .. I would never do novus ordo. Traditional Latin mass forever! your videos helped me when I first started becoming Catholic! Thank you , God bless, love you.
@jimbob3719
@jimbob3719 2 жыл бұрын
If your not baptized yet, then your not catholic yet
@jimbob3719
@jimbob3719 2 жыл бұрын
so baptism is not a requirement to become catholic?
@Zach-ix3ob
@Zach-ix3ob 2 жыл бұрын
@@jimbob3719 baptism is required, as is confirmation. The original poster is a catechumen, on his way to becoming Catholic.
@johnchung6777
@johnchung6777 2 жыл бұрын
May The All Holy And Sacred Trinity Bless Guide And Protect your Faith In your journey to Heaven through His One Holy Apostolic Catholic Christian Church And Traditional Teachings Amen Amen Amen 🙏🐑🕊✨🌈
@larryluch8178
@larryluch8178 2 жыл бұрын
I would never do novus ordo? Have you investigated the Eucharistic Miracle of Buenos Aires? I love the old Latin Mass but l attend Novus Ordo also. There have been several modern Eucharistic miracles to attest to the validity of Novus Ordo. The Buenos Aires miracle and Lanciano both offered the exact same findings in a lab. Blessings
@patrickmulenga8310
@patrickmulenga8310 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome thanks I appreciate God bless
@lovejesuschrist3063
@lovejesuschrist3063 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus and Mary, I love you. Save souls!
@camp5607
@camp5607 2 жыл бұрын
Mary cannot save
@michaelibach9063
@michaelibach9063 2 жыл бұрын
@@camp5607 those converted to Catholicism by the apparition of our lady of Guadalupe would disagree
@camp5607
@camp5607 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelibach9063 do you trust Mary for your salvation?
@camp5607
@camp5607 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelibach9063 this apparition is made up. If people actually did see it, it was from Satan. To deceive people. To take their eyes off Jesus and put their trust in something false. How much money did this apparition make 🤔. Another catholic money making scheme. There’s a reason why there’s so much money in the Catholic Church
@michaelibach9063
@michaelibach9063 2 жыл бұрын
@@camp5607 did she give birth to Jesus?
@camp5607
@camp5607 2 жыл бұрын
I know a lot of Catholics and they don’t even believe in purgatory. And they also don’t believe in going to confession anymore
@CatholicTruthOfficial
@CatholicTruthOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
Then they clearly don't know what it means to be Catholic and don't understand their faith. Sad.
@camp5607
@camp5607 2 жыл бұрын
@@CatholicTruthOfficial Catholics are waking up, praise God. They are finally seeing what Christians are saying. It makes sense and they are turning away from catholic teachings
@ClergetMusic
@ClergetMusic 2 жыл бұрын
@@camp5607 what anti-Catholic cult are you from? You and I have already discussed one point that you had no premise for, and also in which you rejected the Scripture I referenced. BTW, here and now, you have yet again given more conclusions without premises. You arent very good at this are you?
@amaledward2147
@amaledward2147 2 жыл бұрын
@@CatholicTruthOfficial I honestly don’t know why u need to believe in this Greek Mythological stuff to be saved
@loraliecataldi1975
@loraliecataldi1975 8 ай бұрын
Sounds like my Mother, in the same breath she will say “I will ALWAYS be a Catholic” and then say “when I was a Catholic”. My inner reaction is huhhh? 🤔 okaaaaay 🤦🏻‍♀️
@LNongbet_edit
@LNongbet_edit 2 жыл бұрын
Eye opening
@markgriffiths5289
@markgriffiths5289 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You 🙏
@tanya9463
@tanya9463 2 жыл бұрын
Pray the Divine mercy chaplet and the rosary for the holy souls in purgatory and when we receive the holy Eucharist offer it up for the holy souls in purgatory. They need our prayers .when we pray always remember to pray for the holy souls in purgatory.
@budjeansonne4482
@budjeansonne4482 Жыл бұрын
Does the Catholic Church publish a list of these imperfection that will put a person in purgatory? And, how long a period of time does each imperfection must one serve? Also, who keeps the records of all of this?
@CatholicTruthOfficial
@CatholicTruthOfficial Жыл бұрын
No, they don't. Any and all sin or imperfections on our soul at the time of death will need to be purified.
@budjeansonne4482
@budjeansonne4482 Жыл бұрын
@@CatholicTruthOfficial Without a list how do we know what the sins and imperfections are?
@rc3088
@rc3088 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@letscarryit
@letscarryit 2 жыл бұрын
The two judgements is The Judgment seat of Christ (For Believers ) for rewards The Great White Throne Judgment (for unbelievers) for eternal judgment
@572checo21
@572checo21 2 жыл бұрын
Correct sir.
@tonysheets6625
@tonysheets6625 Жыл бұрын
What about the thief on the cross to the right of Jesus? Jesus told him “Today, you will be with me in Paradise.” Jesus didn’t tell the thief he would have to spend several years or longer in Purgatory and then go to Paradise (Heaven). I did see your video and will look at the Maccabees verse. I do enjoy your message and ministry even though I disagree on Purgatory. I like your passion and general love you have for people and getting the message of Christ out. I especially loved how you called out sins that we Christians ( especially us men) struggle with. I wish you lots of success with your ministry and God bless you and your family!
@garden209
@garden209 9 ай бұрын
A larger issue is that the Greek manuscripts that contain this passage do not contain punctuation. So did Jesus say to him: “Truly, I say to you, today you will be with me in paradise” OR “Truly, I say to you today, you will be with me in paradise.” Punctuation makes a big difference.
@marietav7342
@marietav7342 2 жыл бұрын
"It is more holy to pray for the dead or souls in purgatory than to pray for the living." - Blessed Anne Catherine Emmerich and other mystics
@lysanderofsparta3708
@lysanderofsparta3708 2 жыл бұрын
Why? The souls in purgatory are already saved.
@grey0966
@grey0966 2 жыл бұрын
@@lysanderofsparta3708 true.. how does one even know whether or not a soul is in purgatory.. if the soul who we are praying for is not in purgatory, then what happens to our prayer ✝️🙏
@lysanderofsparta3708
@lysanderofsparta3708 2 жыл бұрын
@@grey0966 It's the mystery of grace and salvation, I guess.
@grey0966
@grey0966 2 жыл бұрын
@@lysanderofsparta3708 grace and peace be with you ✝️🙏
@marietav7342
@marietav7342 2 жыл бұрын
@@lysanderofsparta3708 Why? I don't know. It's Blessed Anne Catherine Emmerich and other mystics who said that, not me. They must have received revelation from God about that that's why they said that.
@rogerweston3707
@rogerweston3707 2 жыл бұрын
Good video. .
@taffykins2745
@taffykins2745 2 жыл бұрын
I want to send this to s person I care about but they can't get it. Will you help me,? It's very important. Thank you.
@CatholicTruthOfficial
@CatholicTruthOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
What do you mean they can't get it?
@TheTamrb26
@TheTamrb26 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Brian, I've learnt so much from you! Thank you so much!. I got a question regarding to this Christian KZbinr with a subscriber of 300k+ - He said that "God told me this and that" in his video, because the holy spirit in him said so. I don't think he's Catholic... He is humble and can possibly become a Saint if he was a Catholic ... Maybe we should not judge him because what if Jesus told him.. If he was a Catholic maybe he speaking the truth? Thanks Brian! I'm sure someone watching your videos got this question in mind also.
@ArnoldMaglalang-bb2oe
@ArnoldMaglalang-bb2oe 3 ай бұрын
Spanish La Sagrada Bible. 1 Peter 3 19 Purgatorio. In Hebrew Sheol. In Greek Hades. In Latin Purgatorium. The meaning is realm of the dead. In the Cathechism of the Catholic Church Purgatory is a state and the final purification place❤
@robertgillis6245
@robertgillis6245 Жыл бұрын
The Holy Bible tells us that our works will be thrown into the fire. If our works are made on straw or hay they will be consumed, but if our works are made of gold and silver they will endure and through fire we will be purified. A person can read Jesus mentioning 4 servants. The first servant got his reward. The second servant was torn apart and fed to the wild beasts. The third and fourth servants did not deserve their reward, but did not deserve getting torn apart and fed to the wild beasts so one got a heavy beating and the other a light beating. Jesus mentions an existence other than Heaven and Hell.
@joehouston2833
@joehouston2833 2 жыл бұрын
Preach the Gospel at all times. If necessary, use words . - St. Francis of Assisi
@CatholicTruthOfficial
@CatholicTruthOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
This quote has never been able to be substantiated, and it is not found in any of Saint Francis' writings, but it is a good quote. :-)
@amaledward2147
@amaledward2147 2 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for Bible verses but I got a lot of bs answers. What were the verses from Hebrews 9
@CatholicTruthOfficial
@CatholicTruthOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
We gave several Bible verses. I guess you didn't watch the whole video?
@amaledward2147
@amaledward2147 2 жыл бұрын
@@CatholicTruthOfficial Uh i did Hebrews one doesn’t say about a Purgatory. Did the Guy on the cross went to a Purgatory or in Paradise? Just wondering
@SchulmanGary
@SchulmanGary 11 ай бұрын
@@CatholicTruthOfficial you did but none of them confirm purgatory at all. In fact, what you’re doing is reading in your own meaning into the text that you are claiming affirm purgatory.
@loraliecataldi1975
@loraliecataldi1975 8 ай бұрын
Is their TIME in purgatory? It’s a different dimension so I’m wondering if we will have a sense of time or not. If we do have a sense of time will we know how much time we will spend there? Is torment a part of the process of being purged? And do some of our sufferings here in this realm during our lives count towards the purging process with respect to discipline, trials and afflictions when it achieves its perfect work in us?
@KingaHorsztynska
@KingaHorsztynska 4 ай бұрын
There is NO TIME in purgatory.
@joykwa3416
@joykwa3416 Жыл бұрын
SHALOM PEACE BRIAN MERCY THIS IS JOY ANGELICA FROM SINGAPORE ASIA 🇸🇬 DO YOU KNOW WHAT IS CLIMATE CHANGE ?
@Primordial_Synapse
@Primordial_Synapse Жыл бұрын
I realize I'm late to the discussion and I think someone else already brought this up but if Christ is cleansing those in purgatory, who in turn are wholly passive in their receipt of His sanctifying grace, where do works of supererogation, Masses for the dead, intercessory prayers and indulgences come into the picture? I admit that my knowledge of this subject is scant but I was under the impression that what we do here on Earth actually affects those who are in purgatory and that it's not just Christ on his own doing everything, unless I missed something (apologies in advance if I've misunderstood you).
@wlg2677
@wlg2677 2 жыл бұрын
Morality comes from God, without Jesus and the Holy Spirit we cheat ourselves about what is good and what is evil.
@jerdistefano9328
@jerdistefano9328 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a little confused, is purgatory, painful, like hell
@openingshift7070
@openingshift7070 Жыл бұрын
No. It’s more of a neutral place. No pain but it’s also not perfect like Heaven. It’s temporary too
@SchulmanGary
@SchulmanGary 11 ай бұрын
@@openingshift7070 it’s also not biblical and it’s something you Catholics made up!
@Jerry-tv4bg
@Jerry-tv4bg 4 ай бұрын
Isn't jesus scacafrice on the cross enough to redeem us?
@CatholicTruthOfficial
@CatholicTruthOfficial 4 ай бұрын
100%. It's more than enough for the whole world. With that being said, Protestants believe in sanctification, which is still Christ's work in their lives. Purgatory is sanctification complete and still all Christ's work and saving power. Hope that helps.
@b.questor
@b.questor Ай бұрын
What if Purgatory is a realm where a soul must witness the continuing consequences of one's sins in this world? Perhaps, acts that continue to affect multiple future generations might mean a lengthy stay.
@Dash_023
@Dash_023 2 жыл бұрын
Good video. Note that "holy, holy, holy" is also in Isaiah.
@bonnycooper9202
@bonnycooper9202 2 жыл бұрын
I have a lot off questions why did the thief on the cross go straight too paradise it’s a genuine question not an attack
@CatholicTruthOfficial
@CatholicTruthOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
No problem. Thanks for the question. The thief on the cross is an exception to the rule because Jesus had not died and risen yet. The Christian church had not started yet. So this was still Old Testament times and not held to the same New Testament standards. Baptism was not mandated until Pentacost. Finally, the Catholic Church teaches that if someone has a deathbed conversion, they can still be saved. Its known as baptism of Desire where they would be baptized if they could be, but they can't. So it's accounted to them. Again, it's an exception to the rule.
@bonnycooper9202
@bonnycooper9202 2 жыл бұрын
@@CatholicTruthOfficial thank you I see
@tonysheets6625
@tonysheets6625 Жыл бұрын
Hi Brian, I am having major anxiety issues about Purgatory. Probably because I had anxiety about in the late 70s and 80s about the whole “End times Doctrine” that was going on that I no longer believe. I feel Purgatory is a place of separation from God because apparently God doesn’t answer our prayers. I also here that the souls of Purgatory cannot hear or participate in Catholic Mass which seems also like a temporal separation from God. Is it because of our soul structure as to why souls in Purgatory cannot pray or participate in Mass? Do the souls not the five bodily senses? Like a different dimension? I see other videos on KZbin with Priests and Nuns appearing before humans that have been in Purgatory for decades. In my OCIA class one person said that the devil can still torment souls in Purgatory. The catechism only gives a few sentences about Purgatory.
@rosamaria5785
@rosamaria5785 Жыл бұрын
Please Tony, 'do not fear'. This is the most repeated phrase in the Bible, my friend. Do do your very best in this life, and honestly follow God's Commandments to the best of your knowledge and abilities, but then leave the rest to Jesus, and simply trust Him. God is not unjust or mean or cruel. Please, remember that Jesus' mercy is infinite, actually described as "an endless abyss". Place your mind on that thought and rely on Him, on His grace (not on your own efforts). If you do so, you will be o.k. Always repeat: "Jesus, I trust in You". ~ Many blessings!
@southernlady1109
@southernlady1109 Жыл бұрын
Purgatory is actually a gift from God. Purgatory is a purgation (cleansing) of our souls to enter Heaven. 1 Cor 3:15, Mt5:25-26, 1Pet 3:18-20, 1 Jn5:16-17 Nothing impure can enter Heaven. Rev21:27 If we die in mortal sin, we chose to be separated from God. He honors our choices for eternity. There’s no hope left, we are cast into hell. If we die in Venial sin, we have to be purged of it to enter Heaven. Jesus Christ saves us baptized with The Holy Spirit from original sin. Sins committed after Baptism have to be confessed, receive absolution & Penance to be forgiven by God. That’s why Jesus Christ instituted the Sacrament of Reconciliation (Confession). He gave His authority & power to His apostles & their direct successors, Catholic Priests. 2 Cor 5:18-20, Jn 20:21-23, Mt18:17-18, 16:18-19 We are only saved by loving God enough to live His Commandments, Church, Sacraments, Doctrine, Teaching, having faith, doing His work, receiving His grace, love and unfathomable mercy! He taught if we don’t remain in His Doctrine that He set in His One True Apostolic Catholic Church, We DO NOT HAVE HIM. 2 Jn 1:9, Heb 13:9, Gal1:6-9 If we don’t receive His Sacraments, we will never enter Heaven. Jn 3:5, 6:51-59, 1 Cor 11:23-29, 2 Cor 5:18-20, Jn 20:21-23, Mt 18:17-18, 16:18-19, 19:4-6 are a few
@KingaHorsztynska
@KingaHorsztynska 4 ай бұрын
The souls in purgatory see everything and hear everything. They know who prays for them and they know who says something about them. Our Lady visits the suffering souls in purgatory and the Guardian Angels visit the souls in purgatory whom they took care of on earth. Souls in Purgatory are present at every Holy Mass. A soul in purgatory cannot help itself, but it can pray for people on earth. Please watch the film: "Purgatory" by Michal Kondrat and the film: "The Greatest Miracle". Please learn the prayer: "Chaplet of Divine Mercy". Please offer your good deeds and prayers for the souls in purgatory suffering. Please also pray for the dying. Please tell people to at least say: "Holy God, Holy Mighty One, Holy Immortal One. Have mercy on us and on the whole world."
@Brenda89
@Brenda89 2 жыл бұрын
What about the man who was hanging on the cross beside Jesus who Jesus said "Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt though be with me in paradise"
@CatholicTruthOfficial
@CatholicTruthOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the question. The thief on the cross is an exception to the rules because Jesus had not died and rose again yet, and the Christian church was not started yet. So this is still Old Testament times. Not held to the same New Testament Commandments. Further, the Catholic Church teaches that if you have a deathbed conversion you can still be saved as an exception to the rule.
@Brenda89
@Brenda89 2 жыл бұрын
@@CatholicTruthOfficial But wouldn't he still have to spend time in purgatory for his unrepentive sin throughout his lifetime before he could go to paradise?
@michaelibach9063
@michaelibach9063 2 жыл бұрын
@@Brenda89 purgation isn’t a only once you die event. Purgation begins as soon as we repent. Purgation is suffering. The Purgation of gluttony requires the pain of suffering hunger in order to overcome the vice of gluttony. The thief was suffering, the long suffering of crucifixion.
@Brenda89
@Brenda89 2 жыл бұрын
@@CatholicTruthOfficial also wouldn't that kind of go against what Jesus said in Luke 16:16 "The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it."
@chaschk2
@chaschk2 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have a video on Indulgences?
@CatholicTruthOfficial
@CatholicTruthOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
Not yet, but it will be coming.
@chaschk2
@chaschk2 2 жыл бұрын
@@CatholicTruthOfficial ..Thank you so much.
@jrainey44
@jrainey44 Жыл бұрын
Colossians 2 13 When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made you[d] alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, 14 having canceled the charge of our legal indebtedness, which stood against us and condemned us; he has taken it away, nailing it to the cross. 15 And having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross. Purgatory is a false teaching. There's no sin to burn off. Christ finished it.
@CatholicTruthOfficial
@CatholicTruthOfficial Жыл бұрын
That's not true. All protestants believe in sanctification, and purgatory is sanctification completed. You also accept a false doctrine that all of your sins have forgiven even in the future without having to confess them. That's heresy. And it's not biblical
@Karl_Arthur3
@Karl_Arthur3 Жыл бұрын
I agree with this comment. Can you please direct us to the place in Scripture that mentions purgatory? It isn’t in there because it’s a doctrine of men. The man who was crucified next to Jesus asked for forgiveness and Jesus turned to him and said, “Today you will be with me in paradise” due to grace alone. Jesus didn’t say, “Wait, hold up. You have to go to purgatory first in order to be cleansed of your sins.”
@Citizen9134_
@Citizen9134_ 2 жыл бұрын
“The one who says, “I have come to know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him;” ‭‭1 John‬ ‭2:4‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬ “but by their deeds they deny Him,” Titus 1:16 NASB 2020 “since he is read in the synagogues every Sabbath.” Acts 15:21 NASB2020
@meredithdriscoll3067
@meredithdriscoll3067 Жыл бұрын
What are we purified with? I am worried it is painful.
@CatholicTruthOfficial
@CatholicTruthOfficial Жыл бұрын
The blood of Christ. His victory and passion
@sansebastiansj
@sansebastiansj Жыл бұрын
Yes, the purgatory is painful, but don't worry, such thing does not exist. Jesus died for you, so you don't have to suffer.
@KingaHorsztynska
@KingaHorsztynska 4 ай бұрын
Saint Padre Pio said about the fire in purgatory this way: "If the Lord allowed a soul to pass from this fire to the most burning flames on this earth, it would be like passing from hot water to cold."
@neilmcclelland4269
@neilmcclelland4269 10 ай бұрын
What about the thief on the Cross He NEVER went to church He NEVER was baptised He NEVER recited any prayers He NEVER received the Eucharist He NEVER took confirmation He NEVER went to confession He CERTAINLY NEVER WENT TO PURGATORY And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, TODAY shalt thou be with me in paradise Luke 23:43
@neilmcclelland4269
@neilmcclelland4269 10 ай бұрын
Psalm 51:5 clearly tells us that it’s impossible to be born into this world as a human being without sin and that includes Mary as she had a sinful mother and father. Mary herself recognised she was a sinner as she referred to Jesus as HER SAVIOUR She wouldn’t need a saviour if she was sinless
@CatholicTruthOfficial
@CatholicTruthOfficial 10 ай бұрын
The thief was also under the old covenant law, so all of that is irrelevant. The New Testament church with its New Testament ordinances had not been started yet. And it's also an exception to the rule anyway, since it's a death bed conversion which even the Catholic Church teaches.
@Two_Bluebirds
@Two_Bluebirds 2 жыл бұрын
"And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them." REV 14:13 We are washed in the Blood of Christ at Baptism, and also during life through the Sacrament of Confession. Christ gave to Peter the Keys to the Kingdom of Heaven, and to His Apostles the power to bind and to loose. What on earth do Protestants do? Just quickly say 'Oh, Jesus, I'm sorry for such and such today', and expect to get a red carpet at the end of life? If Protestants don't believe in 'works', what exactly will 'follow' them into Eternity?
@ClergetMusic
@ClergetMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Their works will follow them, but the eternity they receive might surprise them.
@camp5607
@camp5607 2 жыл бұрын
There’s a lot wrong with what you said, but in a nutshell, Christian’s believe that Jesus died for us and took away our sins. We can’t give to the poor and expect that will give us a notch on the belt to get into heaven. Jesus did it all. Do we want to do good, yes. But it will not get us into heaven. When we do sin, we go to Jesus and tell him we messed up and that we are really sorry. Jesus knows our heart and knows we will sin. But we know his death and resurrection made us right with God. Thank God for his perfect gift.
@camp5607
@camp5607 2 жыл бұрын
@@ClergetMusic we put all our hope and trust in Jesus. We are promised heaven because of what Jesus did in the cross.
@ClergetMusic
@ClergetMusic 2 жыл бұрын
@@camp5607 got a premise for all those conclusions?
@ClergetMusic
@ClergetMusic 2 жыл бұрын
@@camp5607 Matthew 25:31-40. Parable of the sheep and the goats. This passage discusses the necessity of corporal works of mercy.
@danny.samayoa
@danny.samayoa 2 жыл бұрын
HEy Bryan do think Pokémon cards are a sin im not sure because people can have envy or be jealous and steal but then again i dont do those bad things but im confused ty
@CatholicTruthOfficial
@CatholicTruthOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
It's just a game. As long as you play it as a game, that's fine. You're not really being jealous or envious, it's just characters in a game.
@danny.samayoa
@danny.samayoa 2 жыл бұрын
@@CatholicTruthOfficial ok thank you
@CatholicTruthOfficial
@CatholicTruthOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
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@danny.samayoa
@danny.samayoa 2 жыл бұрын
@@CatholicTruthOfficial OK
@jimbob3719
@jimbob3719 2 жыл бұрын
What does not make sense to me is someone that is baptized at 80 years old , that has broken thousands of windows, won't have to pay for those broken windows . I guess Jesus pays for the broken windows, but he has to pay for every broken window after baptism. Why does not Jesus pay for the broken windows done after baptism. And also someone who was baptized as an infant, who never repented of his sins until he was eighty, has to pay back for all those thousands of windows he broke . In his case Jesus never paid for any his windows that he broke. So baptizing your child as an infant, could possibly mean more time in purgatory for your child? Don't make sense to me
@duffboy502
@duffboy502 2 жыл бұрын
Time is a concept that does not apply to God, only for us, so in my understanding, baptizing someone at an early stage in life serves the purpose of making that particular person closer to God as early as possible. So that person have more time to develop his or her relationship with God through the natural course of their lifes. And at purgatory, from what I understand, if both are there, their cleanse will come sooner or latter, but it is not for us to try and estimate how long will it take based on circunstances.
@georgepierson4920
@georgepierson4920 2 жыл бұрын
Baptism not only takes away the stain of original sin, but also the remission of any actual sin. In other words, when a person is baptized, regardless of age, that person is filled with grace with their sins washed away.
@noldo3837
@noldo3837 2 жыл бұрын
Since when religion should make any sense? Thats why it's called faith - you should beleive it and don't ask unpopular questions :D
@michaelibach9063
@michaelibach9063 2 жыл бұрын
Except the act of baptizing your baby would reduce the number of sins the infant committed overall, as the Holy Spirit was more involved in that’s persons life than the other. The other, could have died before being baptized at 80 as well.
@johnpurcell7525
@johnpurcell7525 3 ай бұрын
Purgatory Limbo have been abolished by Church Hell is under review Mean to say you haven't heard
@CatholicTruthOfficial
@CatholicTruthOfficial 3 ай бұрын
You are 1/4 correct. Purgatory is still a doctrinal teaching of the Church. That will never change. Limbo is not taught. That part is right. However, it was never an official teaching of the Church but a theological speculation. Purgatory is still teaching though. Check the Catechism.
@almarodriguez298
@almarodriguez298 2 жыл бұрын
Protestant pastors was taking to purgatory know they believe 😁❤️🌷look for the testimony
@alu175
@alu175 2 ай бұрын
"I am an ex devout catholic. If purgatory is real and Biblical then Jesus should have said "it is not finished!" Imagine Jesus bleeding, suffering and dying on the cross and the Roman soldiers hauls a confessional box right at the foot of the cross for a priest to give purposeless penance and take alms to forgive sins, and Mother Mary start a rosary prayer line to pray vain repetitions with no aim or objective etc. What would Jesus think and say? John 14:6. I am the way and the truth and the life, No one comes to the Father except thru me." And God would say John 3:16: For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life” So What is it about this verses that you do not understand?
@CatholicTruthOfficial
@CatholicTruthOfficial Ай бұрын
That's like saying, if the Trinity was good and rela, the Jesus should have said it. There are many things Christians teach that Jesus didn't say. At least not in the Bible. Jesus never said to write a Bible or even go by the bible. So of you are going to only go by what Jesus said in the Gospels that's going to lead to a whole host of problems and contradictions. You are ignoring that Jesus started a church and gave the Apostles the authority to forgive sins in his name. See John 20:21-23. You quote John 3:16 and ignore the rest of the New Testament? Like Mk 16:16. 1 Pet. 3:21. Jn 14:15. Mt. 19:16-23. Etc.
@pfevrier01
@pfevrier01 2 жыл бұрын
If you done something ever wrong, then you go to jail for a amount of time. You did your time and come out of prison. You paid your debts. That's the world we live in and thats how it is described in the Bible. Yes, it's in the Bible.
@pfevrier01
@pfevrier01 2 жыл бұрын
@@ContendingEarnestly check out yourself. Its in the Bible : we will pay back for what we have done wrong untill the last penny.
@OzCrusader
@OzCrusader 2 жыл бұрын
Listen to what the Bible says about purgatory: kzbin.infoJ1wpnu9n66E?feature=share
@ClergetMusic
@ClergetMusic 2 жыл бұрын
@@pfevrier01 also Galatians 5, which contains a list of sins which will forfeit a person Heaven. That directly disproves Once Saved Always Saved. Theres a lot of Prots here arguing against purgatory by using the non-Christian teaching of OSAS.
@lizanta
@lizanta 2 жыл бұрын
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@rickleeo970
@rickleeo970 2 жыл бұрын
what does it mean to 'be forgiven'?
@srich7503
@srich7503 2 жыл бұрын
It means forgiven. This is NOT about the forgiveness of sins. This is about the cleaning of the effects of that sin. To be or go to purgatory your sins would have had to have been forgiven 1st. In the video the example at Min 10:45 is used by all people on earth. We forgive the act but expect temporal punishment? Why is is not something we use but not expect God to use.
@ClergetMusic
@ClergetMusic 2 жыл бұрын
@@srich7503 correct. Any mortal sin sends you directly to hell. To even make it to purgatory, one must be in a state of Grace.
@srich7503
@srich7503 2 жыл бұрын
@@ClergetMusic 👍🏻 i like your terminology better - “To even make it to purgatory, one must be in a state of Grace.“ i think i will adopt it in the future.
@fernandop1
@fernandop1 2 жыл бұрын
*But what you described in purgatory, can also be applied in this life. Why there and not here?* The porch to heaven is dying and born again in Christ. The worst part of purgatory is that your release depends on indulgences? Is just nonsense. My salvation is between me and my relationship with Jesus Christ, not through third parties. The laws of the Old Testament don't apply anymore to the laws of the New one (Romans 7:1-4). I AM STILL CATHOLIC, I just don't agree 100% with everything related other than salvational matters.
@Matt-1926
@Matt-1926 2 жыл бұрын
*_But what you described in purgatory, can also be applied in this life. Why there and not here?_* He mentioned in the video that you can complete sanctification in this lifetime. He said if not here then in purgatory. *_The porch to heaven is dying and born again in Christ._* Don't understand what you are meaning by this. Being born again in Christ happens in this lifetime and this world is certainly not the porch to heaven. *_The worst part of purgatory is that your release depends on indulgences? Is just nonsense._* Sure is nonsense, that is why it isn't Catholic teaching. Your loved ones here on earth praying for you and offering up indulgences for you can lessen your suffering in purgatory but your release isn't dependent on their indulgences. *_My salvation is between me and my relationship with Jesus Christ, not through third parties._* Yes and no. Your salvation is dependent on Jesus Christ, but He chooses to use mediators (third parties) throughout His plan of salvation. Keep in mind a covenant isn't you and Jesus a covenant is a family bond. Jesus said the greatest commandment is to Love God and the second is to love neighbor. He wants us to pray for and love one another, he wants us to be the third party in someone else's salvation, not because it is necessary but because it is fitting. *_The laws of the Old Testament don't apply anymore to the laws of the New one (Romans 7:1-4)._* Not sure what old testament law you are referring to as not applying in regards to purgatory. Maybe you could expound on this? *_I AM STILL CATHOLIC, I just don't agree 100% with everything related other than salvational matters._* Just wanted to point out that it seems you don't 100% agree with some things because you don't 100% understand the teaching. I have found if something doesn't sound right most likely it is because I am not understanding what is being taught. Never stop asking questions. That is my advice. God Bless
@christsservant583
@christsservant583 2 жыл бұрын
No wayy lol I used to watch your video tutorials on card magic, and somehow I found you here... What a coincidence. As the saying goes: It's a small world.
@vozdelatalaya2041
@vozdelatalaya2041 2 жыл бұрын
And where is purgatory in the Bible???
@CatholicTruthOfficial
@CatholicTruthOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
We have a video on that too. :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/oZfWYot3lrmnfqs
@johnchung6777
@johnchung6777 2 жыл бұрын
Our Lord and God Jesus Christ went down to the heart of the earth for three days when he died,and that place he went to for three days could not be hell because Our Lord Jesus Christ died immaculately with out any type of sins at ALL.So why did he go to the heart of the earth for Three Days,people of the earth think about it.Why did Jesus Christ go there four three days?
@johnsmith-rd3zx
@johnsmith-rd3zx 2 жыл бұрын
i love the bible more than i love the catholic church i even withheld 200 dollars from catholic collection plate to donate bibles to china and north korea with the money..i have a stronger relationship with God reading the bible and not taking the catholic eucharist than taking the catholic eucharist and not reading the bible
@CatholicTruthOfficial
@CatholicTruthOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
If you don't take the Catholic eucharist, then you can't be saved. Jesus himself said that if you refuse to have his body and blood you have no life within you. We agree that the Bible is incredibly important, but the church is what Jesus started. And it's the church that made the bible, without the Catholic Church there would have been no Bible made. It's also the Catholic church that has the authority to interpret the Bible since Christ gave the church his authority. So it's not either or, it's both/and.
@johnsmith-rd3zx
@johnsmith-rd3zx 2 жыл бұрын
@@CatholicTruthOfficial it wasnt jesus blood being shed that i experienced in life it was my own blood being shed in injuries..jesus didnt make me learn spanish or learn spanish for me i had to learn spanish language to earn salvation in school...pope francis didnt say there is no homosexuality in heaven the bible sais so. the catholic church wants to get rid of the death penalty while the bible sais the wages of sin is death
@TrueSight_333
@TrueSight_333 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, First of all, thanks for posting this. I'm not a Catholic, but I appreciate you taking the time to post this. One of the issues I have with the Catholic religion is adding stuff to the Bible that isn't there. The issue I have with this teaching is it conflates the Bema seat of Christ, which is where ALL believers will have their works judged, and makes it appear as though we can somehow be perfected in the flesh - you won't find that in the bible my brother. The clear teaching of scripture is this: We are either saved or not saved. We are either righteous by the blood of Jesus, or not at all. There is no "purification" from our fleshly woes that happens after death, just the judgment. We are worthy by the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, which you say over and over again, and yet there's this weird "perfection" that is yet to be completed... do you see the contradiction there? To be clear... the Bible says ALL will appear before the judgment seat of Christ (2 Cor 5:10); NO ONE, no matter how surrendered they are to Jesus in this life, escapes that. Purification in the moral or spiritual sense AFTER DEATH is *NOT* taught in scripture. What IS taught is the judgment of our WORKS (1st Cor 3:12-15). What that passage says is that the WORKS of an individual will be revealed, and whatever is wood, hay and stubble (things that we did out of selfish motive or pride) will be burned up, and whatever remains (gold, silver) will be refined, but the WORKER will be spared "as though through fire". It has nothing to do with the purification of the believer ADDED to the FINISHED work of Christ. The worker is saved already; that is a done deal and there are a litany of passages that support this. The judgment you are referring to has to do with the WORKS of the worker. I don't see this as an issue to divide over, but I'm simply stating this is one of those weird doctrines that confuses people and paints outside of the boundaries of what the Bible teaches. Which is why I have a problem with it. God bless you brother - I know you love Jesus and really, that's all that matters :-)
@noahgaming8833
@noahgaming8833 Жыл бұрын
Here are examples of what early Christian writers had to say on the subject of purification after death (purgatory): The Acts of Paul and Thecla “And after the exhibition, Tryphaena again received her [Thecla]. For her daughter Falconilla had died, and said to her in a dream: ‘Mother, you shall have this stranger Thecla in my place, in order that she may pray concerning me, and that I may be transferred to the place of the righteous’” (Acts of Paul and Thecla [A.D. 160]). Abercius “The citizen of a prominent city, I erected this while I lived, that I might have a resting place for my body. Abercius is my name, a disciple of the chaste Shepherd who feeds his sheep on the mountains and in the fields, who has great eyes surveying everywhere, who taught me the faithful writings of life. Standing by, I, Abercius, ordered this to be inscribed: Truly, I was in my seventy-second year. May everyone who is in accord with this and who understands it pray for Abercius” (Epitaph of Abercius [A.D. 190]). The Martyrdom of Perpetua and Felicity “[T]hat very night, this was shown to me in a vision: I [Perpetua] saw Dinocrates going out from a gloomy place, where also there were several others, and he was parched and very thirsty, with a filthy countenance and pallid color, and the wound on his face which he had when he died. This Dinocrates had been my brother after the flesh, seven years of age, who died miserably with disease. . . . For him I had made my prayer, and between him and me there was a large interval, so that neither of us could approach to the other . . . and [I] knew that my brother was in suffering. But I trusted that my prayer would bring help to his suffering. . . . I made my prayer for my brother day and night, groaning and weeping that he might be granted to me. Then, on the day on which we remained in fetters, this was shown to me: I saw that the place which I had formerly observed to be in gloom was now bright; and Dinocrates, with a clean body well clad, was finding refreshment. . . . [And] he went away from the water to play joyously, after the manner of children, and I awoke. Then I understood that he was translated from the place of punishment” (The Martyrdom of Perpetua and Felicity 2:3-4 [A.D. 202]). Tertullian “We offer sacrifices for the dead on their birthday anniversaries [the date of death-birth into eternal life]” (The Crown 3:3 [A.D. 211]). “A woman, after the death of her husband . . . prays for his soul and asks that he may, while waiting, find rest; and that he may share in the first resurrection. And each year, on the anniversary of his death, she offers the sacrifice” (Monogamy 10:1-2 [A.D. 216]).
@noahgaming8833
@noahgaming8833 Жыл бұрын
In hebrews 10:14 talks about being sanctified, which means to be free from sin. Let’s look at it this way, when we confess our sins, Jesus takes away our sins, but we are still tempted to do it again, so we are sanctified when we confess our sins, but not to the extent that we are not tempted by sin. Purgatory is where we become perfectly sanctified, because nothing unclean can enter heaven.
@KingaHorsztynska
@KingaHorsztynska 4 ай бұрын
If , according to Protestants, all people go to heaven after death, why on earth did people who are sinners create the Justice System. and criminals go to prison for long years instead of living in freedom because they believe in God? If everyone goes to heaven, did Hitler and Stalin also go to heaven? God gave man free will, but after death one will have to account for free will. This is a DEAD LIE that the Catholic Church added something to the Bible that wasn't there before. At the very beginning, Jesus Christ created the Universal Church, i.e. the Catholic Church, and Martin Luther decided to destroy this Church, separating from it and removing the Books from the Old Testament that did not suit him. He himself was a sinner, a lecher and believed that adultery was not a sin. All you Protestants, when you die one day, you will be in great shock, because it will turn out that you will not go straight to heaven and will have to suffer in purgatory for your sins.
@websurfin9575
@websurfin9575 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus & the disciples never one time spoke of the Catholic purgatory.
@georgepierson4920
@georgepierson4920 2 жыл бұрын
Purgatory Numbers 20:12 - Moses and Aaron, though forgiven, are still punished 2 Samuel 12:13-14 - David, though forgiven, is still punished 1 John 5:16-17 - There is sin that is not deadly Revelation 21:27 - Nothing unclean shall enter heaven Hebrews 12:23 - All in heaven have been made perfect Matthew 12:36 - "On judgment day men will account for every careless word they utter" Matthew 18:23-35 - In the kingdom of heaven you will remain in prison until your debt is paid 1 Corinthians 3:11-15 - Fire will test each ones work. He will be saved but only as through fire Luke 12:41-48 - There are different degrees of punishment after death 2 Maccabees 12:42-45 - He prayed for the dead that they might be freed from their sin 2 Timothy 1:16-18 - Paul prays for his dead friend Onesiphorus Lk 12:58-59; 1 Cor 3:15; Mt 5:25-26 ... temporary agony. Heb 12:6-11 ... God's painful discipline. Mt 12:32 ... no forgiveness ... nor in the age to come. 1 Pet 3:18-20 ... might be purgatory (limbo?). 1 Pet 4:6 ... preached to the dead. Rev 21:27 ... nothing unclean shall enter heaven. Heb 12:23 ... souls in heaven are perfect. Col 1:24; 2 Sam 12:13-14 ... "extra" suffering. 2 Mac 12:43-46 ... sacrifice for the dead. (not in Protestant Bibles) 2 Tim 1:15-18 ... prayer for Onesiphorus for "that Day."
@CatholicTruthOfficial
@CatholicTruthOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus and the apostles never said to make a Bible either. I never said to canonize a Bible and read it and take it to church with you. Jesus never mentions the Bible alone, or faith alone, and neither do any of the apostles. Those police are not found in the Bible or in Christian history where as Purgatory is.
@websurfin9575
@websurfin9575 2 жыл бұрын
@@CatholicTruthOfficial Never 1 time does Jesus or the disciples teach of the Catholic purgatory. Indulgences (giving charitable contributions, earning the way out of purgatory for people & into heaven) is an abomination against the blood of Jesus that He shed for the salvation of all who repent & walk in Holiness all the days of their lives. That is what Jesus & the disciples told all people who would listen to their teachings. Jesus numerous times warned of an eternal hell. He never 1 time warned of purgatory.
@websurfin9575
@websurfin9575 2 жыл бұрын
@@G-MIP ANY person or any doctrine that tramples on the blood of Jesus is far beyond vacuous.
@OzCrusader
@OzCrusader 2 жыл бұрын
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@tt45679
@tt45679 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus died to pay the penalty for all of our sins (Romans 5:8). Isaiah 53:5 declares, “But He was pierced for our transgressions, He was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon Him, and by His wounds we are healed.” Jesus suffered for our sins so that we could be delivered from suffering. To say that we must also suffer for our sins is to say that Jesus’ suffering was insufficient. To say that we must atone for our sins by cleansing in Purgatory is to deny the sufficiency of the atoning sacrifice of Jesus (1 John 2:2). The idea that those who are saved by grace through faith have to suffer for their sins after death is contrary to everything the Bible says about salvation.
@Xerxes2005
@Xerxes2005 2 жыл бұрын
Purgatory is not about salvation, it's about sanctification.
@SchulmanGary
@SchulmanGary 11 ай бұрын
@@Xerxes2005 wrong purgatories about the Catholic Church, making money from it!
@rexfordtugwelljr
@rexfordtugwelljr 2 жыл бұрын
Luke 12:42-48 The servants who received the severe and light beatings are the ones in Purgatory. At least that’s what Jesus says.
@marietav7342
@marietav7342 2 жыл бұрын
There are many levels in purgatory (as there are in heaven and hell). The lowest is close to hell while the highest is close to heaven. Souls in this area are about to enter heaven. There are 3 major levels in purgatory. They are low purgatory, middle purgatory and high purgatory. Every major level comprises many levels also.
@marietav7342
@marietav7342 2 жыл бұрын
As a soul in purgatory gets purified, its place in purgatory goes up as well until it/he/she reaches heaven.
@marietav7342
@marietav7342 2 жыл бұрын
As a soul in purgatory gets purified, his/her sufferings decrease as well. Souls in the lowest purgatory are the ones who suffer most while souls in the highest purgatory are those who endure the least sufferings.
@marietav7342
@marietav7342 2 жыл бұрын
"Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows." - Gal 6:7 "The one who plants and the one who waters have one purpose, and they will each be rewarded according to their own labor." - 1 Cor 3:8
@marietav7342
@marietav7342 2 жыл бұрын
@@milomask8456 A booklet "An Unpublished Manuscript on Purgatory" and other books about purgatory. I think I have 5 or more books about purgatory.
@gbluesrocker
@gbluesrocker Жыл бұрын
Where in the Bible did Jesus teach about Purgatory to his disciples and followers and was crystal clear about it? Is the Catholic Church saying that his death on the cross was not sufficient enough? Did he die for some of our sins and not all of them?
@KingaHorsztynska
@KingaHorsztynska 4 ай бұрын
If Jesus Christ died on the cross for all sins, why did people invent a system of justice where if someone commits a crime, he stands before a jury and the judge sentences the person to prison instead of saying: "If you believe in God, you don't have to go to prisons" ? You will be very surprised when you die one day and find out that you don't go straight to heaven.
@alu175
@alu175 2 ай бұрын
I was an ex devout catholic was blind and now can see. If purgatory is real and Biblical then why did Jesus have to go thru savage barbaric beating when you can chant meaningless prayers for those in purgatory and eventually enter Heaven. If purgatory is true and Biblical then Jesus should have said “It is NOT finished.” Purgatory is quite an insult to the gospel.
@CatholicTruthOfficial
@CatholicTruthOfficial 2 ай бұрын
Clearly if you ask that question you didn't understand your Catholic faith before you left. Not in the least. Maybe try watching the video and learning something about your former Catholic faith.
@emoore1439
@emoore1439 2 ай бұрын
Purgatory is a gift. It allows more people to enter heaven. If you believe that there is no sin in heaven then you believe in some sort of purgatorial process whether it is a lengthy process or in the blink of an eye
@feronix9582
@feronix9582 2 жыл бұрын
If Jesus told Peter to make the first church 2000 years ago and the catholic church is 2000 years old and the first christian denomination wouldn't it make sense that the Catholic Church is the true church
@amaledward2147
@amaledward2147 2 жыл бұрын
So if they make something up, we should just accept because it’s tradition?
@feronix9582
@feronix9582 2 жыл бұрын
@@amaledward2147 we never made anything up nor did we change anything All the traditions we have are from Jesus
@amaledward2147
@amaledward2147 2 жыл бұрын
@@feronix9582 Here we go again. Cool I get it. Just show me some revenue to Mary ascending to heaven? If your answer is Church said so, just say that. Don’t say Jesus said it. Did Jesus also told us to kill people during Crusades?
@feronix9582
@feronix9582 2 жыл бұрын
@@amaledward2147 Revelation 12:1-5 is proof of assumption of Mary also were does it say scripture alone 2 Thessalonians 2:15 dont say that and the crusaders were protecting christianity from islam we killed to defend the faith
@feronix9582
@feronix9582 2 жыл бұрын
@@amaledward2147 Jesus didnt make the Bible that dont mean the Bible is false lol
@gwit247
@gwit247 2 жыл бұрын
Man! I gotta lot of work to do.
@botsterfilion7718
@botsterfilion7718 Жыл бұрын
The Lord Jesus Christ: “IT IS FINISHED”. The Saint: “I can rest”.
@CatholicTruthOfficial
@CatholicTruthOfficial Жыл бұрын
What's finished?
@CatholicTruthOfficial
@CatholicTruthOfficial Жыл бұрын
And what do you think that means?
@CatholicTruthOfficial
@CatholicTruthOfficial Жыл бұрын
Still waiting for an answer :)
@botsterfilion7718
@botsterfilion7718 Жыл бұрын
@@CatholicTruthOfficial I will answer your question. Firstly please allow me to make this comment. Sir, you have proven to be not a very sound student of the Bible in your past videos. I say this with all humility and love toward you as an image bearer of God. You have given false impressions at times that Christians and Roman Catholics are basically in the same ballpark when it comes to matters of salvation. From where I’m standing nothing can be further from the truth. One of us at this moment is in serious danger of hell fire and one has a blessed hope of escaping it. You can clearly be observed not understanding the basics of the Bible. You had proven this with your lack of understanding what the “doctrines of Grace” are, and how, “substitutionary atonement” is related to the believer. You made false claims that “substitutionary atonement” was not taught prior to John Calvin. The fact is many of the “church fathers” taught “substitutionary atonement”. Some as far back as a millennium prior to Calvin. I replied back to you two of these “church fathers”. You never responded to it. That’s fine it’s your channel, you don’t need to respond. However,that only continued to pile up the evidence that one could perceive of your deception on the matter and your lack of understanding of the Bible as a whole. During that entire video you failed to designate what you were trying to refute as “ Penal Substitutionary atonement” as “ substitutionary atonement”. Your denial and blatant disregard and your wildly theatrical false claims in that video proved to many, how far off you were in being a reputable proclaimer of the Bible. You assumed the man in the video (Ithinkbiblically) was a “Calvinist” by carelessly hurling him into that category. In fact you even went as far as misrepresenting him in the title of your video as such. The fact of the matter the man does “think biblically” is NOT a Calvinist and indeed does believes in a Penal Sub Atonement!! Do you see your error?? This could be seen because of your own lack of understanding on that doctrine. You, thinking that “penal sub atonement” is a solitary doctrine only Calvinists adhere toward is not true. The same man you labeled in that video as a “Calvinist” has published videos vehemently against Calvinism. You should have done your homework on the man and you should, if I can suggest to you, study more in depth on the “doctrines of Grace” before you attempt to refute another proponent of it in a social media forum. Either way, souls are at stake here.
@noahgaming8833
@noahgaming8833 Жыл бұрын
@@botsterfilion7718 this isn’t answering what’s finished, you’re not very bright. The Gospel of John says the last words Jesus Christ spoke on the cross before he died were “it is finished,” which in Greek is one word: tetelestai. Some Protestant apologists claim that Jesus’ declaration should be translated, “It is paid in full.” According to them, by saying, “It is finished,” Jesus is saying that nothing else must be paid or done because of sin. The Protestant apologist Ron Rhodes writes in his book Reasoning from the Scriptures with Catholics, “It is highly significant that the phrase ‘it is finished’ can also be translated ‘paid in full.’ . . . The work of redemption was completed at the cross. Nothing further needed to be done. He had paid in full the price of our redemption” (187-188). Protestant apologists like Rhodes claim that this means there is nothing a person must do after making an act of faith in Jesus in order to be saved, since “nothing further needs to be done” to pay for our sins. Moreover, no believer must undergo purification after death through purgatory because there is no payment we must make with regard to our sins, including any kind of temporal punishment. Dave Hunt says in this context related to purgatory, “There is nothing left for sinners to pay in order to receive the pardon offered by God’s grace. The debt has been paid in full. ‘It is finished!’ Christ cried in triumph just before he died upon the cross (John 19:30). To suggest otherwise is the most serious heresy” (A Woman Rides the Beast, 182). So how should Catholics understand what Jesus said in John 19:30? We agree with Protestants that human beings can never atone for their sins. Only Christ, who is fully God and fully man, can satisfy God’s justice and remit the eternal punishment of sin. In fact, Jesus paid for not just our sins, or the sins of those who believe in him. Christ paid for the sins of those who don’t believe in him, and even the sins of people who will never believe in him. That’s why you can tell any person you meet that “Christ died for you.” First John 2:2 says of Christ, “He is the expiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world.” The fact that Christ’s death “paid for” or atoned for our sins does not mean that everything is finished regarding our salvation. Our Lord himself “did things” for our salvation even after the crucifixion, since the Bible says Christ’s resurrection justifies us. Romans 4:24-25 speaks of “Jesus our Lord, who was put to death for our trespasses and raised for our justification.” St. Paul says, “If Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile and you are still in your sins.” This shows that our justification, and even the act of remitting our sins, was not finished when Jesus said, “It is finished” on the cross. In fact, we have to do something in order to be saved because if Christ paid for all of humanity’s sins, then the difference between who is saved and who is damned can be found only in something the believer does, such as receiving grace through baptism and remaining in communion with Christ until death. John’s Gospel records these truths when Jesus says, “Unless one is born of water and the Spirit [i.e., is baptized], he cannot enter the kingdom of God” (John 3:5), and “if a man does not abide in me, he is cast forth as a branch and withers; and the branches are gathered, thrown into the fire, and burned” (John 15:6). Christ’s sacrifice atones for all sins, but the Bible says this sacrifice can have no effect if we reject God through disobedience. That’s the point of the parable of the unforgiving servant in Matthew 18. In that story, a king graciously forgave a servant’s debt, which would mean the king would have to incur the cost himself. Even though the king essentially declared, “It is paid in full!” by forgiving the debt, the unforgiving servant threatened to jail another servant who failed to repay a much smaller debt. In response, the king revoked his payment and had the unforgiving servant imprisoned until he paid his debt (which biblical scholars say was so large that it could never be repaid). The lesson is clear: God has atoned or “paid for” all of our sins. But if we refuse to cooperate with God’s grace, then the debt can be reinstated. That’s why Hebrews 10:26-27 says, “If we sin deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a fearful prospect of judgment.” Speaking of Hebrews, the author reminds his listeners that “all discipline seems painful rather than pleasant; later it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it” (12:11). Painful discipline is just another word for punishment, and so the author makes it clear that beloved children of God can be disciplined, and this discipline yields the fruit of righteousness. Since children of God do not receive the eternal punishment related to sin, then this can only refer to the temporal punishment of sin, rooted in the disordered attraction we have to sin because of how venial sin injures our relationship with God. So we’ve seen that we can agree with our Protestant friends that Christ fully paid for all of our sins-indeed, all of everyone’s sins-but this doesn’t mean there is “nothing more” we must do to cooperate with God’s gift of salvation. It also doesn’t mean we don’t pay a temporal penalty for our sins through God disciplining us just because Christ remitted the eternal penalty for our sins. So what did Jesus mean when he said “It is finished”? First, he did not literally mean “it is paid in full.” That can be a truth we glean from this passage, but Rhodes is wrong when he says we can translate tetelestai as simply “paid in full.” It’s a form of the Greek word teleō, which just means to “end” or “finish.” The idea that it means “paid in full” is something of an urban legend in biblical exegesis that came from scholars who noted that receipts from around the time of the New Testament had the Greek word tetel stamped on them, indicating that they were paid. But this is an abbreviation, and there are five different Greek words that begin with these letters. One of them is tetelōnētai, which is a different word from tetelestai. It literally means “tax,” or “paid as taxes,” and it can be found on dozens of receipts where it refers to a tax that has been paid. The word tetelestai, on the other hand, is used in ancient Greek sources to describe finishing artwork or manufacturing, not the paying of debts. In the New Testament, the root word teleō is used for payments only in Matthew 17:24 and Romans 13:6-in reference not to “paid in full,” but to paying taxes. So if Jesus didn’t mean “paid in full,” then what did he mean when he said, “It is finished”? One prominent interpretation is that Jesus meant that the Old Testament prophecies about the Messiah were now fulfilled in his sacrificial death. Read the preceding verses, which describe what happened after Jesus entrusted his mother to the apostle John: After this Jesus, knowing that all was now finished (tetelestai), said (to fulfil [teleiōthē] the scripture), “I thirst.” A bowl full of vinegar stood there; so they put a sponge full of the vinegar on hyssop and held it to his mouth. When Jesus had received the vinegar, he said, “It is finished”; and he bowed his head and gave up his spirit. John 19:28 is the only other place where tetelestai is used in Scripture. When combined with the related word teleiōthē, we see that the context is related to finishing, completing, or fulfilling messianic prophecies of the Old Testament. Jesus could also have been referring to the “finishing” of the Last Supper. Scott Hahn proposed this hypothesis in his book The Lamb’s Supper (and in more detail in his 2018 book The Fourth Cup). Hahn notes that Jesus conspicuously did not drink from the fourth cup of the Passover meal. Instead, Jesus refused to drink wine until he came into his kingdom, and then, before dying, he drank sour wine on the cross. Hahn says, “It was the Passover that was now finished. More precisely, it was Jesus’ transformation of the Passover sacrifice of the Old Covenant into the Eucharistic sacrifice of the New Covenant.” This last word of Christ could include all of these meanings and others that have not been explored. However, we do know that Jesus did not mean that our sins had been paid in a way that removes any obligation to cooperate with God’s grace in order to remain in communion with Christ. John 3:36 puts it well: “He who believes in the Son has eternal life; he who does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God rests upon him.”
@anthonym.7653
@anthonym.7653 2 жыл бұрын
Purgatory and the doctrines of Mary were the main reasons why I am no longer a Roman Catholic.
@CatholicTruthOfficial
@CatholicTruthOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
Most likely, you didn't understand them. But you left the true church of Jesus that he started. Every other church is man-made and all except the false doctrine of the Bible _alone_ as the central doctrine of their religions. Just some thoughts to think on. God bless.
@camp5607
@camp5607 2 жыл бұрын
I too left the Catholic Church. My eyes were opened and in my heart knew praying to Mary was not biblical
@anthonym.7653
@anthonym.7653 2 жыл бұрын
@@camp5607 amen.
@vermontmike9800
@vermontmike9800 2 жыл бұрын
Even Catholics can’t agree on who goes to heaven and what purgatory is.
@noldo3837
@noldo3837 2 жыл бұрын
Whole concept of purgatory and hell (as catholucs teach it) does not come from Bible, resp. judaic origins. The concept is mostly of zoroastrian origin, and as many other things, it was added later to the whole concept.
@vermontmike9800
@vermontmike9800 2 жыл бұрын
@@G-MIP you better tell some priests then.
@noldo3837
@noldo3837 2 жыл бұрын
@@G-MIP That is not much contradictory to what I have said. Christianity comes from Jewish roots, but Old Testament was complied mostly in Babylone, and New Testamest Bible was compiled within Roman Empire, in todays Greece, Egypt and Turkey. Originaly there was only the idea of One God and thats it. The dualism of fight between light and was incorporated in judaism and even stronger to Catechism from Mithraic mysteries, resp. "Iranian gnosis". Mithraic religion was very strong in Roman empire at that time, and it was teaching a lot about fight between light and evil. It is not that much in bible itself. Purgatory is mentioned only once and indirectly, and hell very few times and not in that name. So, both how it got into Bible, and even more how the concept of Heaven, Hell, Purgatory and soul was later established in Catechism was strongly influenced by Iranian origined dualism.
@Catholic1391
@Catholic1391 2 жыл бұрын
We have to be like childrens
@camp5607
@camp5607 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus paid it in full
@CatholicTruthOfficial
@CatholicTruthOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
Amen. We don't disagree.
@Citizen9134_
@Citizen9134_ 2 жыл бұрын
Praying to Mary is idolatry. The sabbath is not the first day.
@CatholicTruthOfficial
@CatholicTruthOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
No, the Sabbath is not the first today, but the resurrection of our Lord, the Lord's Day is. All Ten Commandments we are told to keep in the New Testament all except the sabbath. Jesus doesn't tell us to, Paul doesn't tell us to, the apostles don't tell us to, no one in the New Testament tells us to keep the sabbath, but we are told to keep all the other commandments.
@Citizen9134_
@Citizen9134_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@G-MIP There is one mediator between G-d and mankind and that mediator is not Mary. Read 1 Timothy 2:5 please. Also, read Luke 11:28.
@Citizen9134_
@Citizen9134_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@CatholicTruthOfficial That is a false teaching from man. “If you keep My commandments, you will remain in My love; just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and remain in His love.” ‭‭John‬ ‭15:10‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬. Read 1 John carefully. Read Acts 15:21. Read Romans 6:15. Read Hebrews 4:9. The sabbath is not done away with.
@jerome8950
@jerome8950 2 жыл бұрын
@@Citizen9134_ what exactly have we said to Mary that you have decided to describe as "praying TO Mary" ?
@Citizen9134_
@Citizen9134_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@jerome8950 Have you read the prayer to Mary? “Pray for us sinners?” Yeshua or Jesus is the mediator and intercessor, not Mary.
@dannisivoccia2712
@dannisivoccia2712 2 жыл бұрын
"...after Jesus had provided purification for sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven." Hebrews 1:3. The true followers of Christ are: 1) purified through believing His promises. 2 Cor. 7:1. 2) purified through confession to God and through His forgiveness. 1 John 1:9. 3) purified through drawing nigh unto God. James 4:8. 4) purified through obedience to God's word. John 15:3. 5) purified by the blood of Jesus. 1 John 1:7. 6) purified by the hope of Christ's coming. 1 John 3: 2-3. 7) purified by the finished work of Christ on Golgotha. Titus 2:24 & Hebrews 1:3. 8) purified by obedience to the truth. 1 Peter 1:22. The purifying through fire, in 2 Cor 3: 13-15, pertains to the quality of one's WORKS done in Christ, not one's salvation. The follower of Christ is not justified before God by going through purifying fire, but by faith in what Jesus did.
@biblealone9201
@biblealone9201 2 жыл бұрын
Since you claim there is no "purgatory " Then please explain where Jesus' Spirit went for the 3 days his body was dead? Sacred Scripture says ",, that he went and preached to the spirits who lay in prison. " ( 1 Peter 3:19) Where was this prison? was it in Heaven? If so why would there be a prison in Paradise? Was the prison in the Hell of the Damned? If so why would the damned need to hear the Gospel? . as you say there is no "purgatory" then Jesus did not have to die on the cross. If Moses and Abraham and the rest of the OT Faithful were already in the presence of the Lord then Jesus did not have to die. His death on the cross opened the narrow gate and the OT faithful passed through that narrow gate from the wilderness into the Promised land. The OT Faithful that died waiting for the Messiah weren't in slavery in Egypt- the antetype of hell of the damned for they had been rescued but they weren't in the Promised land of heaven either. Jesus' death opened the narrow gate and fulfilled the Covenant. Please study the Hebrew thoughts of Sheol and the grave, and note that Sheol is NOT Gehenna. Gehenna is for the accursed and the Damned not Abraham or Moses. The waiting in the spiritual wilderness is the best explanation of "purgatory" I can think of right now. Thanks for listening and remember Revelation 21 :17 & 1 Cor 3:15 especially verses 10-15. ---- the word hell means Hades or Sheol, the collective abode of the dead, divided into Paradise or Abraham's Bosom--the state of God-fearing souls--and Gehenna, the state of ungodly souls. Thus the descent into hell suggests that the Son of God carried the sins of the world to hell; or the Son of God carried Good News of deliverance to the godly dead such as Lazarus the beggar and the repentant thief. Christ says in Matthew that, like Jonah, he would be in the belly of the earth for 3 days. Acts tells us Christ remained on earth for 40 days before He ascends. So there were 43 days BEFORE Christ went to Heaven. Did the good thief go ahead of the Lord to make sure the lights were on for His arrival? Or, more likely, Paradise that Christ mentions, is Abrahams Boosom. The place where the prisoners Christ preached to in 1st Peter were awaiting the Messiah🤣
@dannisivoccia2712
@dannisivoccia2712 2 жыл бұрын
@@biblealone9201 1 Peter 3:19, when read in context, stated that Jesus went and made proclamation to the spirits in prison, who once were disobedient, when the patience of God kept waiting (for the ungodly to repent) in the days of Noah..." The spirits in prison were the ungodly in Noah's time, held captive for rejecting Noah's preaching of repentance and pending judgement. It would be out of context to say that these imprisoned spirits are in a place of after-death purging. The ungodly and unbelieving die in their sins for rejecting the truth. The proclamation of the Word of God (Jesus) always provides deliverance for the captives, and He chooses vessels who are sold- out for His purposes to proclaim His word. In this case, it was Noah. We already have seen from the Scriptures how God provided purification (purging) from the eight verses listed in my initial comment. Being known as "Bible Alone," you should not have any issues with those listed verses. You stated that if Moses and Abraham, and the rest of the Old Testament faithful were already in the presence of the Lord, then Jesus would not have to die? Scripture says in Revelation that "He was slain before the foundation of the world." Moses and Elijah came down from heaven (yes, from heaven) during Jesus' transfiguration. Being present, Peter, James, and John testified to this. All of the Old Testament faithful were made righteous by their faith, and all of them are in heaven. The "waiting in the spiritual wilderness" (as you called it) cannot be a place called "purgatory." I already discussed the difference between purging (the believer's works by fire) and purification of sins for one's salvation provided by the ultimate sacrifice of Jesus. To say that the follower of Christ must also suffer for his or her sins (venial or otherwise) is to say that the sufferings that Jesus endured for one's salvation is not sufficient. The insufficiency of the finished work of Jesus' ultimate sacrifice runs rather strong within a number other Roman Catholic Church teachings. To imply (even indirectly) that what Jesus had to endure to save us from the power of sin as being insufficient is sin.
@biblealone9201
@biblealone9201 2 жыл бұрын
@@dannisivoccia2712 Ever hear of Sheol or Hades that’s were the word was derived from in Latin "purgatorio" Purgatory The Greek word used for fire is "" (puroo) of which "pur" is the root word for Purgatory. a translation of Hades and Sheol. By the way The word Trinity and Easter Isn’t in the Bible either where did they come from ….. Hell" is english, "sheol" is Hebrew, "hades" is Greek. Purgatory is Latin for the same The Abode of the Just - Abraham's Bosom (Lk 16:22-26) This is where they awaited their promised deliverance. Gehenna (Greek): This is the lake of fire. Eternal damnation (Mt:18:9) The good guys went to the Abode of the Just (Abraham's Bosom), the bad guys when to gehenna. There was a great chasm between the two places and there was no way to get to one side from the other. (Mt:18:9). Christ descended into hell on Good Friday so he could rescue the righteous from the part of hell where the righteous were.(1 Pt 3:18-19) Jesus is the only way to Heaven so it was important that he descended to the dead. (Jn 14:6) Jesus didn't go to hell as a dead guy. He went there as the Saviour. Jesus blew down the doors of the Abode of the Just and grabbed out every faithful servant of God from the beginning of history. He rescued them and freed them from this prison on Holy Saturday. Praise God! That must have been a great party. After Adam's sin, the gates of Heaven were closed, and no one was allowed to enter (John 3:13) until Jesus Christ redeemed the human race and opened the gates once again. Where were the spirits of Moses and Elias, who appeared and spoke with Jesus at the transfiguration (Matthew 17:3)? They could not have been in Heaven since it was closed, and they would have been lost had they been in hell. They had to have been in a third place. If there was a third place then, why not a third place now? What about Lazarus? He was already dead four days (John 11:17) when Jesus arrived at his tomb. Where was his soul during those four days? It could not be heaven or hell for the same reasons as for Moses and Elias. His soul had to have been in a third place. Philippians 2:10 says: "That at the name of Jesus, every knee should bend of those in Heaven, on earth, and 'under the earth'." 'Under the earth', could it mean hell, or is it a third place? Non Catholic theologians struggle trying to reconcile their denial of the existence of Purgatory with what Paul said in 1Corinthians 3:12-15: "Now if any one builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw- each man’s work will become manifest; for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. If the work which any man has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward. If any man’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire*." To whom do these verses refer? Obviously the person is not in hell, as verse 15 says "himself will be saved". He cannot be in heaven either as the same verse implies suffering, "as through fire", and there is no suffering in heaven. These verses say that man will be purified by fire and then will be saved to enter Heaven. Where will this, "yet as though through fire", take place if not in a third place called Purgatory? "And who shall be able to think of the day of His coming? And who shall stand to see Him? For HE IS LIKE A REFINING FIRE, and like the fuller's herb; AND HE SHALL SIT REFINING AND CLEANSING THE SILVER. AND HE SHALL PURIFY THE SONS OF LEVI, AND SHALL REFINE THEM AS GOLD, AND AS SILVER, and they shall offer sacrifices to the Lord in justice." Malachi 3:2-3 "...Strike the Shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered; and I will turn My hand to the little ones. And they shall be in all the earth, said the Lord, TWO PARTS IN IT SHALL BE SCATTERED, AND SHALL PERISH, BUT THE THIRD PART SHALL BE LEFT THEREIN. AND I WILL BRING THE THIRD PART THROUGH THE FIRE, AND WILL REFINE THEM AS SILVER IS REFINED, AND I WILL TRY THEM AS GOLD IS TRIED. THEY SHALL CALL ON MY NAME, AND I WILL HEAR THEM. I WILL SAY: YOU ARE MY PEOPLE. AND THEY SHALL SAY; THE LORD IS MY GOD." Zechariah 13:7-9 "As silver is tried by fire, and gold in the furnace, so the Lord tries the hearts." Proverbs 17:3. The metal refiner watches the silver, for if the process is longer than necessary, the silver will be harmed. "He shall sit refining and cleansing the silver. And he shall purify the sons of Levi, and shall refine them as gold, and as silver..." Malachi 3:3. HE KNOWS THE PROCESS IS COMPLETE WHEN HE CAN SEE HIS OWN IMAGE REFLECTED IN THE SILVER. GOD SAID, "LET US MAKE MANKIND IN OUR IMAGE AND LIKENESS." Genesis 1:26 "...Woe is me, because I have held my peace; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people that has unclean lips, and I have seen with my eyes the King of the Lord of Hosts. And one of the Seraphims flew to me, and in his hand was a live coal, which he had taken with the tongs off the altar. And he touched my mouth and said, 'BEHOLD THIS HAS TOUCHED YOUR LIPS, AND YOUR INIQUITIES SHALL BE TAKEN AWAY, AND YOUR SIN SHALL BE CLEANSED'." Isaiah 6:5-7 What can this possibly mean other than a purgation of sins through fire? In 1Peter 3:19, Christ preached to the spirits in prison. What spirits? What prison? We will become pure spirits only after we die, so the spirits have to be the spirits of the dead. Prison cannot mean Heaven, and souls in hell are lost forever. Prison must mean a third place. 1Peter 4:6, the Gospel was preached "even to the dead". Again, where were these dead? Matthew 12:32, "...but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him either in this world or in the world to come." This passage alludes to another world in which some sins will be forgiven. What other world? Again it could not be either Heaven or hell. Hebrews 12:23, "...and to the Church of the Firstborn who are enrolled in the heavens, and to GOD, THE JUDGE OF ALL AND TO THE SPIRITS OF THE JUST MADE PERFECT." We have already seen from Revelation 21:27 that nothing imperfect will enter heaven, and in Hebrews 12:23, the spirits of the just are made perfect. Revelation 22:14 shows that there will be a cleansing before admission to the tree of life and entrance through the gates of the city. Where will all of this happen if not in a third place? "For everyone shall be salted with fire, and every victim shall be salted." Mark 9:48. What fire, but the purification fire of Purgatory? "But that servant who knew his masters will, and did not make ready for him and did not act according to his will, will be beaten with many stripes." Luke 12:47. Are people beaten in Heaven? Those in hell are lost, so where will this punishment be fulfilled? Very strong evidence that a third place exists, is in 2Maccabees 12:38-46: "...it is therefore a holy and wholesome thought to Pray for the dead, that they may be loosed from sins." If there are only Heaven and hell, why then does Scripture ask us to pray for the dead? If the dead are in hell, prayer is useless. If the dead are in Heaven, prayer is not needed. Therefore there has to be a third place where prayers are needed. St. Paul prayed for his dead friend Onesiphorus in 2Timothy 1:18, "May the Lord grant him to find mercy from the Lord on that day." Why would Paul pray for the dead if he thought his friend to be in heaven or hell where prayers would help neither? The greatest torment in Purgatory is to be separated from GOD for a period of time. Remember, in this life we have five senses, and they are always a distraction for us when we try to concentrate on things of GOD such as prayer. After we leave this life, we are spirit and have lost our five senses. There are no more distractions. Purgatory should be regarded as a great blessing from GOD. Even though souls there are in torment, it is only a temporary torment. All who go there are assured of eventually gaining the Kingdom of Heaven. It sure beats the third alternative...🤣
@dannisivoccia2712
@dannisivoccia2712 2 жыл бұрын
@@biblealone9201 The idea of purgatory has its roots stemming as far back as the writings of many pagan philosophers. It is no mystery that during the time of the church in Rome, prior to the rule of Emperor Constantine and the establishment of the Roman Catholic Church, there would have been no acceptance of pagan influences fused into God's church. The church at Rome was aware of what the Holy Spirit spoke to the seven churches in the book of Revelation; especially, the church at Laodicea: no lukewarmness; no compromise. The Roman Catholic Church took-on a number of pagan influences (including the idea of purgatory), resulting in the christianization of such influences. To not accept the above fact as truth, is to put the Holy Scriptures in a position to be twisted, in order to suit the teachings of a church that still holds to influences not initiated by God from the beginning.
@biblealone9201
@biblealone9201 2 жыл бұрын
@@dannisivoccia2712 you never open your mouth without subtracting from the sum of human knowledge😜
@twaho
@twaho Жыл бұрын
Cant enter into heaven without becoming purified of all imperfection? Ignatius didnt believe he had fully overcome and of course we have the thief on the cross. Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
@CatholicTruthOfficial
@CatholicTruthOfficial Жыл бұрын
Hebrew's 9 has nothing to do with the comment you made. Even if someone isn't perfect by the time they die like Ignatius, that's the purpose of purgatory.
@twaho
@twaho Жыл бұрын
@CatholicTruthOfficial you'll have to do better than "thats not what romans 9 means" without explanation because that's what we call being arbitrary. I've seen your explanations for purgatory and they're poor arguments giving false hope, imprisoning it's believers to the catholic leadership. We know this by the thief on the cross, 2 esdras (Ezra4) clearly tells us there is no repentance after death.
@MrBlurredOut
@MrBlurredOut 2 жыл бұрын
According to Paulie from Sopranos you take your mortal sins and times it by 50 then you take your venial sins and times em by 25 and thats your sentence
@CatholicTruthOfficial
@CatholicTruthOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure that's incredibly accurate then haha.
@argelbargel7680
@argelbargel7680 2 жыл бұрын
Also, Hell is an Irish bar where it's St Patrick's Day forever.
@bobdobbs943
@bobdobbs943 2 жыл бұрын
@@G-MIP With the rising cost of everything, $7.50 should be tossed in the plate. That should cover the cost of exit from pergatory.
@CatholicTruthOfficial
@CatholicTruthOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
@@argelbargel7680 For some people, that's heaven haha. But most of what happens on St. Patrick's day is not from heaven, but hell. We actually have a video on that. :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/nKTbnHdojb-aptk
@YourWrong951
@YourWrong951 10 ай бұрын
People read your Bible, there is no teaching on purgatory, just assumptions. Hear everything this person said and read all the scriptures he gave in context not just the verse but the chapters and you will find no evidence of purgatory.
@brianwilliams-se5jy
@brianwilliams-se5jy 6 ай бұрын
It's very sad that you don't believe the blood of Christ purified you , that is the message of the Gospel and the unbelief the only sin which can't be forgiven 😢 and even sadder that you try to decieve others
@srich7503
@srich7503 4 ай бұрын
Its even more sad you missed the message in the video especially the part where he specifically says purgatory is only for those who's sins were forgiven by the blood of Christ. I can only assume you misinterpreted OUR book too, along with the plethora of others that you dont even agree with. So You are certainly welcome to believe and profess whatever you want to believe, there are plenty of differing beliefs in the world today. But to glean this from the historically decidedly Catholic Trinitarian book is just plain silly… History shows us that Jesus didn't leave us a bible, - the apostles didn't tell us which books belong in the bible, - the church fathers never agreed on the 27 books of the NT through the 4th century and ONLY the 27 books, - not only did they not agree but their individual lists of would-be NT canons were GROWING during this time, growing in numbers of hundreds of “inspired” NT writings. Therefore, if it wasn't the Catholic/Orthodox church that compiled the 27 books of the NT in the 5th century with the guidance of the Holy Spirit, and preserved it by laboriously hand copying them over and over throughout the centuries before the invention of the printing press, the “rule of faith” for many, please tell us who did? And if this church no longer exists today, what good is the text which came forth from her if she couldn't sustain herself?
@brianwilliams-se5jy
@brianwilliams-se5jy 4 ай бұрын
I'm​@@srich7503 how can you have it both ways ? If you're purified thru the blood of the lamb why would you need further purification in purgatory? Was Jesus' sacrifice not perfect and complete?
@srich7503
@srich7503 4 ай бұрын
@@brianwilliams-se5jy the video and the Catholic Catechism is very clear on this. Premise 1: if it's possible to die with the guilt of sin on your soul, but yet still be in friendship with Christ, well then, purgatory would be necessary for heaven because nothing unclean can enter heaven Rev 21:27. Premise 2: the Bible teaches that it's possible to die with the guilt of sin on your soul but yet still be in friendship with Christ 1Jn 5:16-17 & Mt 5:19. Conclusion: therefore, purgatory is necessary for heaven.
@brianwilliams-se5jy
@brianwilliams-se5jy 4 ай бұрын
​​@@srich7503so you're saying Jesus's sacrifice wasn't perfect, complete and sufficient? Not sure what you believe those verses you quoted mean. Mt 5 19 has nothing to do with what we're talking about and as usual Catholics quote verses out of context and leave out what doesn't fit their agenda, Rev21 27 goes on to say only those whose names are in the lambs book of life will enter heaven
@srich7503
@srich7503 4 ай бұрын
@@brianwilliams-se5jy No im not saying that. Im saying the exact opposite. It is THE reason what we eat the body and drink the blood of Jesus Christ Himself. The fact that you say “not sure what you believe those verses mean” tells a lot. With the plethora of different interpretations of the Bible in the world today what makes yours the correct one? Is it the infallible one? If not, who really cares? On the other hand there is this to ponder and answer if you would… History shows us that Jesus didn't leave us a bible, - the apostles didn't tell us which books belong in the bible, - the church fathers never agreed on the 27 books of the NT through the 4th century and ONLY the 27 books, - not only did they not agree but their individual lists of would-be NT canons were GROWING during this time, growing in numbers of hundreds of “inspired” NT writings. Therefore, if it wasn't the Catholic/Orthodox church that compiled the 27 books of the NT in the 5th century with the guidance of the Holy Spirit, and preserved it by laboriously hand copying them over and over throughout the centuries before the invention of the printing press, the “rule of faith” for many, please tell us who did? And if this church no longer exists today, what good is the text which came forth from her if she couldn't sustain herself?
@beckyhofer4328
@beckyhofer4328 Жыл бұрын
“It is finished “ Christ’s words are true. His death was IN OUR PLACE, period. Christ is God as we know, and he said that He was the sacrificial lamb. At the moment of your death, God judges you as he would Christ, which is pure and 100% sanctified. He took your sins that’s why your sins do not be need to be dealt with in purgatory. His sacrifice is enough. Sorry, Catholics but purgatory is not of the Lord. It’s better to know the truth even if it’s hard after believing this all these years. I say this in love.
@CatholicTruthOfficial
@CatholicTruthOfficial Жыл бұрын
Sorry Becky but nothing you said contradicts what we believe or what Purgatory is. You should try actually watching the video. ;)
@Karl_Arthur3
@Karl_Arthur3 Жыл бұрын
Becky! You hit the nail on the head. As I’ve already commented, there is nowhere in Scripture that mentions the word purgatory. If we were to adhere to the doctrines of the Catholic Church, then the thief on the cross next to Jesus would have been told, “Ahh sorry buddy, but you have to go to purgatory first and be cleansed.” Instead, Jesus told him that he would be with Him in paradise. We, as Christians, are offered salvation through Grace alone. Not through works or merit as the Catholic Church teaches.
@KingaHorsztynska
@KingaHorsztynska 4 ай бұрын
I feel sorry for you, Protestant, because you have no idea what will happen to your soul after death. If it were true, as you say, that the souls of people after death go to heaven regardless of what sins people committed on earth, then why do people (although they are sinners) on earth create legal systems and the Justice System and criminals go to prison for long periods of time? years instead of being released because they believe in God? Have you forgotten about God's justice and free will, for which you are responsible before God? Since Jesus Christ is the same for Catholics and Protestants, I will read something to you that you should remember. Jesus Christ said to Saint Sister Maria Faustina Kowalska: "Souls are perishing despite my bitter suffering. I am giving them the last resort, this is the feast of My mercy. If they do not adore My mercy, they will perish forever. Secretary of My mercy, write, tell souls about this great My mercy, because The terrible day is near, the day of my justice" (Diary, 965) . In another place, Saint Sister Maria Faustyna Kowalska writes: "I saw the Guardian Angel, who told me to follow him. In an instant, I found myself in a foggy place, filled with fire, and in it a whole lot of suffering souls. These souls pray very fervently, but without effect for ourselves, only we can come to their aid. (...) We left the door of this prison of purgatory. I heard an inner voice that said: "My mercy does not want it, but justice requires it" (Diary, 20). Saint Padre Pio said about the fire in Purgatory: "If the Lord allowed a soul to pass from this fire to the most burning flames on this earth, it would be like passing from hot water to cold." You, Ptotestant, pity us Catholics for not knowing the truth about purgatory, and yet we can feel sorry for you, because at least we know what awaits us after death, and you will only learn about it when you die one day and there will be no it's a nice experience for you. The Protestants removed books from the Old Testament that were inconvenient to them, and that is why you do not know that Judah Maccabee prayed for the souls of his companions. Don't feel sorry for us, Catholics, because we know the truth about purgatory, but you, Protestants, will know the truth about purgatory when you die one day.
@rebelsguide9770
@rebelsguide9770 2 жыл бұрын
@5:27 You say: “purgatory is sanctification completed” @ 6:20 You say: “Christ Needs to FINISH WHAT HE STARTED ON THIS EARTH. In FACT the Bible says He’s faithful to FINISH WHAT HE STARTED ON THIS EARTH” THAT IS NOT TRUE! WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAT?!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jesus Prayed and said to The Father: I GLORIFIED YOU ON EARTH, HAVING ACCOMPLISHED THE WORK THAT YOU GAVE ME TO DO. John 17:4 He said to them, “See, we are going up to Jerusalem, and EVERYTHING that is written about the Son of Man by the prophets WILL BE ACCOMPLISHED. Luke 18:31 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jesus came and FULFILLED PROPHECY, THE LAW, HE PAID THE RANSOM, REDEEMED US, CLEANSED, SANCTIFIED AND SAVED US. HE SAID HE FINISHED! You say OTHERWISE. You say He DID NOT. Prove It! I CHALLENGE YOU! PROVIDE BOOK, CHAPTER and VERSE that states Jesus DID NOT FINISH WHAT HE STARTED. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- I wager you will either Deflect or Ignore...
@CatholicTruthOfficial
@CatholicTruthOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
We never said Jesus didn't finish what he started on the Cross. He completed his mission on the cross, however, he has not finished the work in us yet because our like has not ended yet. We are still being sanctified and we are still being perfected. So, most of what you said is a strawman argument. You prove our point in by quoting Lk 18. That is referring to Jesus fulfilling the law and His death on the cross. John 17. Jesus did accomplish the work of redemption making it possible for us to now be saved and go to heaven. However, we are still being sanctified and perfected by grace and the Holy Spirit. Just like the words saved and justification, the word sanctification is used in 3 different ways, with applications to the past, to the present and being sanctified, and to the future we will be sanctified. Hebrews 10:14 - For by a single offering he has perfected for all time those who are being sanctified. 2 Cor. 7:1 - Since we have these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from every defilement of body and spirit, and make holiness perfect in the fear of God. 1 Thessalonians 4:3 - It is God’s will that you should be sanctified: that you should avoid sexual immorality. 1 Cor. 1:18 - For the message about the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. Rom. 6:22 - But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the return you get is sanctification and its end, eternal life. 1 Cor. 3:12 - May the Lord make you increase and abound in love to one another and to all men, as we do to you, 13 so that he may establish your hearts without blame in holiness before our God and Father, at the coming of our Lord Jesus with all his saints.
@rebelsguide9770
@rebelsguide9770 2 жыл бұрын
Just listen to yourself! @ 4:05 you actually say one can achieve “PERFECTION” based on their OWN MERIT. If you give your life to Christ, give up this world and the things of this world you can go STRAIGHT TO HEAVEN. WRONG!!! NO ONE IS PERFECT... EVERYONE DIES A SINNER! ALL OF US HAVE BECOME UNCLEAN, and all of our RIGHTEOUS DEEDS ARE LIKE FILTHY RAGS. Isaiah 64:6 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Revelation 21:27 But nothing unclean will ever enter it, nor anyone who does what is detestable or false - THIS TRUE... HOWEVER! You FAIL to READ THE WHOLE VERSE. Only HALF! Why?! You make yourself a “Cherry picker”. WHY NOT FINISH IT? Revelation 21:27 - IN IT’S ENTIRETY But nothing unclean will ever enter it, nor anyone who does what is detestable or false BUT ONLY THOSE WHO ARE WRITTEN IN THE LAMB’S BOOK OF LIFE. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- All “Believers in Christ” ENTER HEAVEN. Because they are ALL a GIFT from The Father to The Son. GIVEN TO HIM BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD. Says God. Matthew 25:33-34 Then the King will say to those on His right, ‘COME, YOU who ARE BLESSED by My Father, INHERIT the kingdom prepared for you from THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD. HE CHOSE US IN HIM BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD, that we should BE HOLY and BLAMELESS BEFORE HIM. IN LOVE - Ephesians 1:4 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- WHOEVER BELIEVES IN JESUS IS SAVED, PERFECTED, SANCTIFIED AND HAS ETERNAL LIFE. Says Christ Jesus. READ John 17:1-26 FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!! Romans 8:29-31 For those whom He FOREKNEW He also PREDESTINED to be conformed to the image of His Son, in order that He might be the firstborn among many brothers. And those whom He PREDESTINED He also CALLED, and those whom He CALLED He also JUSTIFIED, and those whom He JUSTIFIED he also GLORIFIED. Hebrews 10:10 And by that will WE HAVE BEEN SANCTIFIED through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ ONCE FOR ALL. FOR BY A SINGLE OFFERING HE HAS PERFECTED FOR ALL TIME THOSE WHO ARE BEING SANCTIFIED. And the Holy Spirit also BEARS WITNESS to us; for after saying,“I will remember their sins and their lawless deeds NO MORE.” Where there is forgiveness of these, there is NO LONGER ANY OFFERING FOR SIN. Hebrews 10:14-18
@CatholicTruthOfficial
@CatholicTruthOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
We never said we can achieve perfection by your own merits. We literally spent the first few minutes of the video stating the express opposite. You need to listen better friend. Yes we are sinners (which are all the verses you quoted) but we can be fully sanctified by Christs work. Jesus told us to be perfect as our heavenly Father is perfect. Matthew 5:48. He would not have called us to this if it's not possible. It's all His work and His grace working in us which you don't seem to comprehend. It's not our work. I feel fundamentalists like yourself have taken away all free will from humans and all free agency so that we can't do anything and are incapable of doing anything. But this is false. Christ doesn't use us like computers or drive us like cars. Christ says "WITHOUT HIM" you cannot do anything (Jn. 15), but with Him we can do all things (Phil 2:12). 1 Thessalonians 5:23 - And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. James 2:1-4 - Count it all joy, my brothers, when you meet trials of various kinds, 3 for you know that the testing of your faith produces steadfastness. 4 And let steadfastness have its full effect, that you _may be perfect_ and _complete, lacking in nothing._ Romans 12:2 - Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect. - And there are other verses too.
@camp5607
@camp5607 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus didn’t say anything about purgatory. The thief on the cross next to Jesus did not go to purgatory. He went to heaven Because he believed Jesus
@camp5607
@camp5607 2 жыл бұрын
@@G-MIP Jesus paid it all on the cross. Please hear the word of God, not the words of man
@camp5607
@camp5607 2 жыл бұрын
@@G-MIP where in the Bible is this you are talking about
@camp5607
@camp5607 2 жыл бұрын
@@G-MIP and where are you getting this information or are you making it up?
@johnflorio3052
@johnflorio3052 2 жыл бұрын
Christ’s death on the cross is SO powerful even sins can be forgiven after your heart stops.
@louisewilliams7945
@louisewilliams7945 2 жыл бұрын
Purgatory is not a second chance!
@OzCrusader
@OzCrusader 2 жыл бұрын
@@louisewilliams7945 you are correct. I may die in friendship with Christ, but I have unresolved issues with my family. Yes, the cause might be another member of the family, but, in pride, I have been hurtful and uncharitable towards that member. That is unresolved sin. Did not Jesus say that before you go to court, do everything you can to resolve your quarrel with your enemy before the magistrate hears your grievance. Otherwise the just magistrate will see where you failed and contributed to injuring your adversary.
@thunderousooner527
@thunderousooner527 2 жыл бұрын
There’s a unforgettable sin that even Jesus can’t forgive. If you blaspheme the Holy Spirit.
@johnnylara7032
@johnnylara7032 2 жыл бұрын
@@thunderousooner527 Correction: It's unforgivable, not unforgettable.
@jjoseph4070
@jjoseph4070 Жыл бұрын
There are some truth but many are misleading. No man is good or perfect except Jesus. Roman's Catholics teaching about purgatory is wrong. Since no man is perfect or good, then ALL goes to purgatory and they'll charge to pray for the dead. Same teachers/leaders that allows an altered 10 commandments and bluntly disobey Jesus's teaching...Mat 23:9 as another example, and many of the Roman's Catholics traditions & practices contradicting our Lord Jesus own teaching. Which teaching would you follow, the leaders of this church vs our Lord Jesus?
@letscarryit
@letscarryit 2 жыл бұрын
there is No purgatory in the scriptures that’s a Catholic dogma Look at the word “Now may the God of peace himself sanctify you completely. And may your whole spirit, soul, and body be kept sound and blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. He who calls you is faithful; he will do it.” ‭‭1 Thessalonians‬ ‭5:23-24‬ ‭
@srich7503
@srich7503 2 жыл бұрын
😂 The bible is Catholic dogma also 🤷🏽‍♂ Unless you care showing us otherwise who it was that canonized the 27 books of the NT. We are all listening.
@amaledward2147
@amaledward2147 2 жыл бұрын
@@srich7503 Whenever someone ask for evidence, this is all u have to say. More people are leaving dude, u need to show evidence instead of simply saying, Just Believe
@srich7503
@srich7503 2 жыл бұрын
@@amaledward2147 hmmm I do not see or recall him asking for evidence sir. Is there any reason why i should not assume the evidence in the video is actually evidence you will never think is sufficient? Either way any reason why you also jumped over what i wrote above? Are you scared to address it?
@amaledward2147
@amaledward2147 2 жыл бұрын
@@srich7503 you could send verses instead of saying stuff like “u afraid?”. More talking. Lemme guess you gonna type more without verses or references again?
@srich7503
@srich7503 2 жыл бұрын
@@amaledward2147 BTW i dont NEED to do anything. If you feel you need more evidence you might consider asking Jesus Himself and consider those who walked away from Him in John 6:66. Im sure they too thought they wanted more “evidence” also.
@noldo3837
@noldo3837 2 жыл бұрын
Purgatory is not mentioned in Bible, not even in the latest edition. As same as pope, bishop or churches. The less golden-clad cathedrals and statues of marble... Btw when you have said in you earlier viedo that Catholic church was started by Jesus, and that church was not man-made, how about council of Nicaea? How about mistakes in translation into latin, like "virgin" Mary, or the Eve created twice in Genesis. Even the 10 commandments were changed, to allow. I find it insincere that fandom of this say it is holy, and at the same time are changing it to fit its needs.
@srich7503
@srich7503 2 жыл бұрын
I haven’t seen Wednesday worship services or steeples in the bible either but i think they are pretty cool. 👍🏻 Why does it matter if purgatory is in the bible or not? The bible as you know it came along many years after the church flourished and fought heresies without it. 🤷🏽‍♂ Either way, I can show you purgatory in the bible just as easy as you can show a JW the Trinity is in the bible. Are you ready? I am.
@rebelsguide9770
@rebelsguide9770 2 жыл бұрын
@@srich7503 . A JW would not care in the least about the Trinity, in the first place they don’t believe Jesus is God and they believe The Holy Spirit is just energy. However, if I’m talking with you, I would say; “The Trinity is an unfathomable, and yet unmistakable doctrine in Scripture” Isaiah 45:5 I Am the Lord, and there is no other, besides Me there is no God John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 10:30 I and the Father are one.” Acts 5:3-4 But Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit? You have not lied to man but to God.” --------------------------------------------------- One of the clearest Old Testament references to the Trinity is Isaiah 48:16 In John 14:16-17, Jesus says, “I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper Jesus told His disciples to baptize “in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit” (Matthew 28:19). 1 Corinthians 12 the apostle Paul says, “Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit. And there are varieties of ministries, and the same Lord. There are varieties of effects, but the same God” 2 Corinthians 13:14 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all. Romans 15:16, 30; 2 Corinthians 1:21-22; Ephesians 2:18, Psalm 51:11, Isaiah 63:9- 11, Matthew 28:19, Luke 10:21, John 14:26 --------------------------------------------------------- I’m READY! Show me purgatory in Scripture
@rebelsguide9770
@rebelsguide9770 2 жыл бұрын
@@srich7503 “Why does it matter if purgatory is in the bible?” BECAUSE, If it’s NOT, It IS NOT Biblical. DUH! -------------------------------------------------------------- First off, the word “Bible” is a NOUN. From the Latin Biblia ('book' or 'books') Describing the sacred scriptures of Christians comprising the Old and the New Testaments. Simple Yes? Holy Scripture is THE WORD OF GOD. Yes? This “WORD” has been BREATHED, revealed, preserved and protected by it’s Author... GOD, for more than 3,000 YEARS before any human “church council” deemed it to be HOLY and TRUE. TO EVER IMPLY OTHERWISE, TO GIVE CREDIT FOR HOLY SCRIPTURE AND IT’S AVAILABILITY TO ANYONE OTHER THAN THE LORD OUR GOD IS IGNORANCE and SINFUL ARROGANT PRIDE. -------------------------------------------------------------------- The God who made the world and everything in it, being Lord of heaven and earth, does not live in temples made by man, nor is He served by human hands, as though He needed anything Acts 17:24-25 SO SHALL MY WORD BE THAT GOES OUT FROM MY MOUTH; IT SHALL NOT RETURN TO ME EMPTY, BUT IT SHALL ACCOMPLISH THAT WHICH I PURPOSE, AND SHALL SUCCEED IN THE THING FOR WHICH I SENT IT. Isaiah 55:11 ---------------------------------------------------------------------
@srich7503
@srich7503 2 жыл бұрын
@@rebelsguide9770 The JW dont care about the Trinity because they do not believe it is in the bible just as you dont believe in purgatory because it is not in the bible. 🤷🏽‍♂ 😁 Sense all can do is give supporting implicit passages for the Trinity so too will i give the following supporting implicit passages for Purgatory in the bible- Mt 5:8, Heb 12:14, James 3:2, Rev 21:27, 1Jn 5:16-17, James 1:14-15, 2Sam12:13-14, Mt 5:26, Mt 12:32, Mt 12:36, 2Macc 12:44-46, Phil 2:10, 1Cor 2:15, 1Pet 3:18-20; 4-6, 2Tim 1:16:18, 1Cor 15:29-30. So now if you would like to refute 2Macc as being part of the canon of scripture next lets go-
@srich7503
@srich7503 2 жыл бұрын
@@rebelsguide9770 No one doubts that what yiu say “This “WORD” has been BREATHED, revealed, preserved and protected by it’s Author... GOD, for more than 3,000 YEARS before any human “church council” deemed it to be HOLY and TRUE. “ is in fact true - in a sense. BUT you must face the historical facts that there was not 100% agreement of the 27 books of the NT throughout the 4th century from the church fathers. So how, when,where, why did the the 27 books become unified into one canon is the elephant-in-the-room question no body likes to answer. Would you care to take a shot at answering those questionssir?
@camp5607
@camp5607 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus is the only one who can clean your soul. Not purgatory
@camp5607
@camp5607 2 жыл бұрын
Only Jesus is perfect. You are adding to Gods word
@CatholicTruthOfficial
@CatholicTruthOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
Of course Jesus is perfect. But he can make us perfect. "Be perfect as your heavenly Father is perfect."
@camp5607
@camp5607 2 жыл бұрын
@@milomask8456 you accept him as your Lord and savior. His blood washes away all your sins
@camp5607
@camp5607 2 жыл бұрын
@@milomask8456 only the blood of the lamb can take away sins. Your works do nothing. It might make you feel warm and fuzzy, but you can’t earn your way to heaven. ISAIAH 64:6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf, and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away. You are saying Jesus dying on the cross was not enough?
@camp5607
@camp5607 2 жыл бұрын
@@milomask8456 The blood of Christ is what gets you into heaven, nothing else. God will reward you for the good things that you have done once you are in heaven
@camp5607
@camp5607 2 жыл бұрын
@@milomask8456 you didn’t respond to Isaiah 64:6? What say you?
@camp5607
@camp5607 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad I’m an ex Catholic. I trust Jesus. He is my savior and he loves me enough not to send me to hell
@CatholicTruthOfficial
@CatholicTruthOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
You will come home someday when you learn real Catholicism and learn the Bible deeper.
@CatholicTruthOfficial
@CatholicTruthOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus is.our Savior, Amen, but Jesus was clear that if you want to go to have a new also have to follow his commandments. One of those is to be part of the church which is his body. You can't claim to have the head if you don't have the body. And you left the body.
@camp5607
@camp5607 2 жыл бұрын
@@CatholicTruthOfficial you are so confusing. But so is satan
@camp5607
@camp5607 2 жыл бұрын
@@CatholicTruthOfficial you will stand in front of God one day
@camp5607
@camp5607 2 жыл бұрын
@@CatholicTruthOfficial so you are saying that the Catholic Church that I was raised in told me wrong. I thought the Catholic Church all stated the same thing. And which Catholic Church are you in? Roman or Greek. Why is there 2 different Catholic Churches if they both are catholic. Was there a confusion on what to believe. So the catholic church is divided in their beliefs? 🤔😲
@camp5607
@camp5607 2 жыл бұрын
There is only heaven and hell.
@CatholicTruthOfficial
@CatholicTruthOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
And purgatory. 2 Macc. 12:43-46
@ClergetMusic
@ClergetMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Wrong.
@camp5607
@camp5607 2 жыл бұрын
Everything you are saying is incorrect
@CatholicTruthOfficial
@CatholicTruthOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
Prove it
@camp5607
@camp5607 2 жыл бұрын
Christ has made me perfect. When I die, I’m guaranteed heaven. There is no purgatory. You are truly deceived
@CatholicTruthOfficial
@CatholicTruthOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
None of those statements are actually true. God made you a fallen sinner, who received original sin according to Romans chapter 5. And according to that sin you have to die.
@CatholicTruthOfficial
@CatholicTruthOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
If you can find me the place in scripture where it says you are guaranteed heaven, I will leave the Catholic church and join you wherever you are. But that's not a biblical teaching. And the Bible says you can lose your salvation like a hundred times.
@camp5607
@camp5607 2 жыл бұрын
@@CatholicTruthOfficial Romans 10:9. If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. I didn’t say this, God did. Are you calling him a liar?
@camp5607
@camp5607 2 жыл бұрын
@@CatholicTruthOfficial 1 John 5:11-13: “And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life. I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life” (emphasis added). Who is it that has the Son? It is those who have believed in Him (John 1:12). If you have Jesus, you have life. Not temporary life, but eternal. And, according to 1 John 5:13, you can know that you have this eternal life. God wants us to have assurance of our salvation. We should not live our Christian lives wondering and worrying each day whether we are truly saved. That is why the Bible makes the plan of salvation so clear. Believe in Jesus Christ (John 3:16; Acts 16:31). Do you believe that Jesus died to pay the penalty for your sins and rose again from the dead (John 3:16; Romans 5:8; 2 Corinthians 5:21)? Do you trust Him alone for salvation? If your answer to these questions is “yes,” you are saved! Assurance means freedom from doubt. By taking God’s Word to heart, you can have no doubt about the reality of your eternal salvation. Jesus Himself assures those who believe in Him: “I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand” (John 10:28-29). Eternal life is just that-eternal. There is no one, not even yourself, who can take Christ’s God-given gift of salvation away from you.
@camp5607
@camp5607 2 жыл бұрын
@@CatholicTruthOfficial ?? No response 😳 are you giving up your catholic religion?
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