Catoma Responds - End of an Era - Military Tents

[@blazinthat7439]

Any company that can admit their mistakes and move forward in a productive manor is a company worth a second shot.

[@Epitome63]

This company has taken a serious hit in credibility from my standpoint.

[@blazinthat7439]

@@Epitome63 why? You don't admit when you're wrong and try to change?

[@anhatur]

@@Epitome63 I try to design and make some of my own equipment as a way to learn (and save), and I can tell you this: It’s very much a learning process. And even if you’re good, you’ll probably never quit learning. So a response like this is pretty much the best you can hope for.

[@fartman10284]

@@Epitome63 why? I don't think they did. The explained that those 2 tents are discontinued, but customers still want them, so they are providing the customers their remaining stock, as well as acknowledging the issues that Luke has mentioned. What would be a hit on credibility would be attacking how Luke tests out the tents.

[@Epitome63]

@@blazinthat7439 It should have never made it out the door.

[@Tony-dh7mz]

"Truth is the best policy" Catoma, you owned it, respect,

[@BackcountryPilgrim]

So great to see mutual respect in this day and age. S&H.

[@WildForaging]

Head-on, detailed, and unbiased reviews. Thanks for keeping it real! It gets harder and harder to find that kind of transparency, and thoroughness.

[@glennshoup118]

It good to have a person who gives good honest thoughtful views.

[@narlee2014]

These reviews are great and needed. The companies need to understand you’re not out to trash them but to help us get an idea about the products. Kudos to this company for having an open line of communication with you.

[@urbanjungle9600]

Respect to Catoma for their professional and grown up response.

[@chevelless1428]

Thanks for your honesty friends...stay safe and get back into the woods

[@beckymoran321]

I find your testing and reviews are very thorough. Always telling the good and the bad. Just honest!

[@jpisme9082]

That's exactly why l trust your reviews. Big companies are all about sales. Thanks to TOGR and also to viewers that share their own experiences with products.

[@kurtjensen7264]

Everyone deserves a second chance. Looking forward to your review of their revised tents ⛺️

[@brentjacobs7083]

Keep spitting out the truth. It’s refreshing in today’s world.

[@ewengillies9826]

As they say .. the truth always hurts. You do your bit to save us and we appreciate that Luke. Your strength and honour is our guide. Bushyboy Oz.

[@patricklarry6645]

Catoma discontinued the badger too! That was a good tent!

[@djschultz1502]

Thank you Luke, i am glad you do these test and spare us the cost of finding out for ourselves. Because the company reached out to you ,tells me they care about their products and for that i am willing to see what they have to offer. Thanks again.

[@cantstartafire]

Dude, I really appreciate your reviews and the format that you use to present them. It makes getting gear that's right for me and my son much easier and in the end we save a ton of cash, so Thanks!

[@tartrek87]

And that's why I subscribe to your channel, Thanks for your honest reviews, and keep doing what you are doing.

[@kaylind5227]

Thanks for your honesty. These days, it's hard to tell if a KZbin review of just about any product is doing an actual review, or merely shilling.

[@scottodonahoe9505]

Any tent I buy is set up and sprayed 2 times with silicon . A nice tank sprayer works well . Also rub the zippers with Bees wax !

[@carlmcelhenny704]

Just shows how honest of the review you did. Look forward to seeing a review of their current products. I loved the look of both of theses Catoma tents

[@josephbarry9414]

The honesty is a great quality to have with you channel! I know personally, I buy used, or older model equipment to save money. Keep up the great work!

[@garyellis1862]

Thank you for your unbiased reviews

[@ericacanapp9211]

Honesty is the best policy!! For the good of subscribers!! Spot on Luke!!

[@FriendlyFire1987]

Just a hello from rainy Ireland man! Keep up the good videos always great.

[@davidchen3862]

Respects for calling a product for what it is rather than being a marketing tool for company X. Respect to Catoma for admitting they have a faulty product.

[@SoerenGraves]

Keep `em coming, I love your way of reviewing “stuff”

[@michaeljamesgeorge4223]

I like your channel. I clicked the like button. Your honesty and lack of agenda is what makes it awesome. Thanks.

[@kentuckyhiker7071]

Keep doing what you do! I enjoy your non-biased reviews, and if people get butt hurt by a truthful review, oh well! I would rather see a truthful, informative review, vs. one that does not address truthful pros and cons of an item!

[@alexanderweaver4838]

Obviously there are almost 300K subscribers out here who appreciate and love what you do...provide honest feedback on products that you have actually tested and lived in, worn and used to test their worthiness not only for yourself but for your subscribers. I wouldn't purchase anything that did not have the "Luke's approval" of that product. I have bought several items you gave the thumbs up on and you have not let me down. Keep up the great work, Luke!

[@campcrafter4613]

They owned up to the issues as a company I respect that! Now lets see what they come up with for us to have a look at.

[@WayneTheSeine]

Good on you and good on Catoma. Can't wait to see what they have in store for review.... you can believe it will be something good.

[@10lauset]

You're getting what you ask for........a thumbs up. Cheers

[@jackpremiumaccount]

I have the catoma stealth 1. Without the fly and no rain, condensation would not occur and its perfect. But for rain and cold weather when you need to cover up the tent, you will have condensation. I'll make a video on it soon

[@redsorgum]

It’s nice that Catoma, didn’t respond like they were in a coma.......

[@sanjlakhanpal5017]

Be good to see if they have solved the issues with newer models or not

[@garyo4456]

Forge ahead, steadfast with best intentions!! Double thumbs up!! 👍👍

[@BudgetGunsandGearReviews]

I haven't watched the video yet, but I'll bet Catoma was a bit upset... Ok. Now that I've watched the video, I have to say that I'm happy to see that they took it the way they did. Good on them.

[@kennethhall7248]

You cant do any better than using the product under adverse conditions. Great show cant go wrong watching and learning........

[@randystaller2366]

Keep on doing what you've been doing. If some don't like the truth, too bad. Honesty will bring about a better product. Thumbs up yo you Luke

[@DTOXPUNK]

thats why i luv your reviews and always loyal to your podcast

[@dispmonk]

Yeah I got one of those in like new condition. One of the poles broke in the wind. And then it caught the rain fly and shredded it.

[@raymondhollingsworth3643]

I have always loved your unbiased reviews and keep watching your channel because of this. When these tents came out they were way above what the military had when I first went in. Military gear is meant to keep you alive, to survive but not in a way that civilians would like. It takes longer for the military to change out equipment that has issues unless it SpecOps who have more latitude and money to buy something better.

[@aldonalexander7178]

Theres pros and cons for every product. And enjoyed how they were tested. I follow and suggest and purchase off your reviews.

[@hsaurid]

Luke, thank you for sharing Catoma’s communication with your subs. On a different note, could you do an episode on your choice for a good 4 season tent with good ventilation and little or no condensation, please? Thank you.

[@-NateTheGreat]

Good for you. Companies need to be held accountable for their products. Especially outdoor gear that puts the consumer at risk at the expense of their safety.

[@mendallhaynes7340]

Keep up the good Honest work . It is appreciated .

[@nicholask7347]

You need to review an, EV3 from Mountain Hardwear, if you want to see condensation built up. Then again, when used where they are meant to be, no issues. I definitely learned that one.

[@noshame7472]

Luke you are a real solider, Please stay true to your review's. If the product is crap then keep saying why? Thanks.

[@davesskillet9235]

Thanks for sharing Luke keep up the reviews the Good, Bad and the Ugly need to be known for the best reviews.

[@timbennett7211]

Good job Luke and Catoma...will be very interested in their future products.

[@michaelmoore2802]

As always, your integrity shines through...thanks Luke!! Happy holidays to you and your wonderful family...stay safe...

[@earlshaner4441]

Thank you brother for sharing the details and facts about everything and I enjoy watching you and your wife brother

[@P_RO_]

Both tents are on Catoma's "Clearance" page. There's always at least one reason any product is discontinued, sometimes many reasons. Could be a supplier of materials closed, could be unprofitable, but most of the time it's problems they can't easily resolve. "Clearance" means "Caution!"

[@bobjoncas2814]

..good one. stay safe..the truth hurts...stay safe..

[@biffgrimes.8345]

There has to be room for honest impartial opinions in this world .

[@phillipnunya6793]

I hope their new designs are improvements on those two tents. They are a good design for the most part, but just need some changes to allow for ventilation.

[@kurtz260]

Some people would rather be spoon fed b.s. than face the truth. In life as well as their purchases. Personally I appreciate not only your agenda free approach, but the b.s. free approach as well.

[@fallenangelwi25]

People get butt hurt any time the wind blows now a days. Can't please everyone 😂

[@stewartmcdonald4121]

Im offended by that comment!

[@fallenangelwi25]

@@stewartmcdonald4121 lol 🤣🤣🤣

[@stewartmcdonald4121]

@@fallenangelwi25 bUETIFUL

[@stewartmcdonald4121]

Giggle so hard, it hurts your liver and kidneys. :)

[@stewartmcdonald4121]

"Is this your idea of fun? Lyric" kzbin.info/www/bejne/n6a6enp5g5iMaNk

[@safromnc8616]

Thanks for the update Luke...

[@earlshaner4441]

Thank you for sharing brother and I am not surprised

[@ericjudd9603]

Not a bad response. Thanks luke👍

[@RoamwithJeep]

Good work mate! You are the voice of people who love the out doors and are looking for good quality products that perform as they say. Cheers * Jeep

[@mikeshelton5629]

I understand why they said they are still selling those models. Their position would be better if they had posted a disclaimer on the for sale page.

[@alaskaraftconnection-alask3397]

One of the real world issues and shortcomings concerning the recent Catoma 'tests' out in the rains was no control group of a few well-'proven' make/model designs. Let's say for a few examples A.) Eureka Assault Outfitter 4 as a very good civilian version 'based on' similar usage and shape... yet much more proven, higher quality, etc. (loved my older model Assault outfitter 2 versions as well) B.) Diamond Brand 2-person USMC mil-spec version (again similar lineage and purpose design), yet once again more proven. C.) Some other 'military' tent of knock-off in similar size ranges.

[@DVolvoguy777-x7o]

Straight up vid Luke. Well done. Fast correspondence between videos too.

[@TheLarry113]

I trust your reviews

[@ferebeefamily]

Thank you for the information.

[@WilliamStout27]

Keep up the great work Luke my man!

[@johnowens8530]

Thanks for you honesty! Do you have experience with the Catoma speed dome tents I can find few reviews?

[@jksponga]

Awesome job wolf.

[@casualpreparedness2347]

Excellent Video As Always. 👈💯👍👍😎🌞🇺🇸

[@John_Troch]

you rock, thank you.

[@danbad63]

Keep up the GREAT WORK!

[@davidbones8947]

Been enjoying your videos upfront and unbiased thanks brother keep up the fun have a blessed Christmas you and your family

[@dustenmccammond5689]

I watch your channel because you give honest reviews of the products you have. I feel feel that you would not be doing your stated job if you didn’t upset some people. I have products that you have given a less than positive review of and I still like them. I just take your criticism of these products as information for the future. Don’t change.

[@wolflynnx4]

AWESOMENESS 😎👍

[@terrym1065]

Luke.👍👍 The company responded, that's better than some. Now if some Mfg. will make a Gortex tent for $60 w/unobtainium framework and lifetime warranty under two pounds and big enough for the Hulk, I'm in.... Thanks for real world reviews and opinions, much appreciated.

[@darlenekozlovskis6907]

Awesome review Luke.

[@Kado244]

Keep up the awsome reviews!

[@joeykerr5517]

Glad it worked out, but how do things like this get on the market to begin with?

[@BoundingBeast]

I'm surprised there wasn't anyone mad that you had anything GOOD to say about a Walmart product 😆

[@mikel9567]

I've had pretty good luck with Walmart products. When I was an EMT full time, I used to bring a backpack with me to work that I would hang in the back of the ambulance. I used their Outdoor Products brand of backpacks. I would guess they weighed probably around 20lbs and I hung them up off the tech net in the back. For 12 hours it would swing around and dangle there. Never once had a failure. We also have used their family tent for camping and don't really have an issue. It does have one pole that is bent, but I think that is more to do with my dumbass sister-in-law getting drunk and messing it up (never let family use your stuff). Walmart stuff isn't exactly top of the line, but it can be pretty good stuff, especially if you're on a budget. On a side note, I have several friends who are avid hikers and into SAR and they have told me numerous times that most camping and hiking crap comes from REI. REI is far more expensive than Walmart and their reputation is crap, and thats saying a lot since they are headquartered here.

[@erikcornog9479]

ive been a member of bushcraftusa for several years but i always seem to miss the good stuff! id have liked to seen the post about walmart lol hey you got to tell it like it is!

[@holeymcsockpuppet]

Have you done a review of Catoma's Burrow pop-up tent with either of the two rain flies? Can find it on the channel.

[@Trilogy111]

Thanks for the awesome follow up! Quick question, what jacket are you wearing? That color and cut looks awesome.

[@kathleenking9477]

I like your reviews!

[@hollyp6395]

Butthurt. Love it. Over Walmart. SMH. You are the most honest reviewer I have seen on KZbin. With no agenda, you have no reason but to be honest. Both pro and con.

[@FirstLast-zx1xw]

They know the tents are substandard but are willing to sell the remaining inventory. Not a company I'd be willing to do business with.

[@jonreedau81]

Exactly correct, I don't understand how anybody could say they stepped up- stepping up would be pulling the tents off the market. They would rather have a few thousand dollars in sales instead of harming their reputation. Its almost as if they had waited five years to sell them hoping people would forget they were junk.

[@fartman10284]

It did pass the 5" of rain that the hurricane system threw at it. But the lack of the vent is a good or bad thing. Bad is the humidity buildup inside the tent from no vent. But the vent can be bad if the winds are strong enough for rain to get into the vent and soaking your tent (been there before). It's choices that people need to consider when they buy a tent or set up a tent in inclement weather.

[@fartman10284]

How about if you bought a $350 tent and found it came with a bottle of seam sealer for the fly, would you think it's substandard and yet continue to sell it at full price?

[@larry4293A]

Nice shades and they are a company they should respond respectfully

[@livinlawki639]

Any advice on a ultra compactible cold weather sleeping bag As i do hammock camping and with the over and under quilt the sleeping bag i have is too big to fit in my pack, and i use the 65l mardingtop bag

[@danbasham9207]

Might be good here in kalirado. We're lucky to get 5" of rain a year.

[@johnchastain4351]

They need to include a sealing kit and other repair essentials OR put them in the dumper.

[@Steve-qt9ce]

Being as they are Mil Surplus a guy could just fab up a breathing tube out of an old swim mask and a some dryer vent line then gorilla tape it all together and your condensation problem is licked! This stuff is easy Luke. Why didn't you think of it?

[@LundysWildcampBushcraft]

Good man I like a honest review and you definitely do that Atvb Jimmy from England 🇬🇧 👍👍👍

[@bugs5644]

thanks for the review video's, you provide a service that a lot of us cant do , or have the resources to do . it should be realized that its an opinion that is yours from doing the testing and is well appreciated. dont worry about about if someone (gets there little feeling hurt,...or butt hurt, LMAO !! keep up the fantastic work, it is again, well appreciated.

[@thorne79us]

I will give catoma credit , it took their customer service some time to respond but they did call me back and get me sorted out , keep in mind these guys are not A major corporation , they are A small outfit ( pretty sure customer service is some dude and his secretary )

[@lincolnraymond8201]

Could you please do a review on the wanderer magnitude 3ps tent

[@CreatorInTrng]

Hi Luke, second chances with a company that seems to have stepped up, looks good. You mention often that you usually buy your own equipment - or have it gifted to you - for testing, thus keeping it independent. I trust this will continue even if Catoma sends you the product to test. Keep it real; keep it honest. That's why we are here.

[@Perktube1]

How does one stop condensation in a tent?

[@redwing771]

yep like !

[@chriswatson2407]

Discontinued five years ago but still in stock. interesting.

[@DinnerForkTongue]

Because people kept asking.