Catra Mean Moments (She-Ra s1-s5)

Finally I finished the Catra mean moments
Hope you like it!
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[@hollertubes1647]

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[@alocalmess]

Done

[@cloadetta2504]

I can’t sign it.. *because I already did*

[@BarbieWanda]

done

[@hollertubes1647]

@@cloadetta2504 lol

[@cloadetta2504]

@valeria gutierrez figueroa Fair reasoning

[@wild331_]

got damn AJ's voice acting.....I literally get chills every time it's a emotional scene. AJ is so damn good.

[@hollertubes1647]

Ugh yesss

[@songbird6414]

Honestly might be the best voice acting I’ve heard. There’s always some kind of hidden sadness or anger in whatever she’s saying. It’s amazing.

[@emmacroker5603]

Not to cause offence but I think if it didn't show the image and the voice I wouldn't really like as much. The drawing just goes so well with the voice.

[@songbird6414]

@@emmacroker5603 i agree

[@elenasmcanonico3163]

The fact that neither her or Aimee Carrero (Adora's voice actress) were indicated to an award for their voice acting in "She-Ra" is outrageous.

[@roosterman8601]

Adora really must've loved her comeback of "Hey, Catra" because Catra was pretty mean.

[@hollertubes1647]

It must've felt pretty satisfying

[@emim2464]

@Holler Tubes it did for me 🥵

[@hollertubes1647]

@@emim2464 well same

[@whydowelivejusttosuffer4460]

I still like catra as a character

[@Hellothere-ky4jr]

True-

[@heathermcnameracansteponme8682]

nobody: Me: *appreciating AJ's voice acting*

[@heathermcnameracansteponme8682]

@Cilantro love yours too lol

[@jessechao4]

I'm a fan of aj but didn't know about this show and that she did voice acting for it

[@gumballwatterson5037]

she voiced stevonnie in steven universe

[@yourmomdotcom8934]

Loads of people talking bout it ;-;

[@siege824s8]

I love lainey Lewis

[@rodrigocosta5354]

I really like "redeemed" Catra from season 5, but I also like the "mean" Catra from the other seasons lol

[@hollertubes1647]

Well it can't be helped

[@superstarultra28]

Wish she stayed a villain. She was WAY more enjoyable when she was evil.

[@fstorms]

@@superstarultra28 You mean when. Her mental health completely detoriated, and she got frequent breakdowns, followed by suicidal tendencies. Oof villain material idd.

[@amxthyst_spell1662]

I love mean catra

[@Splatoob]

Eh I don’t like mean catra for about 10-20 reasons

[@faroshscale]

When scorpia looked up at her and said "you're a bad friend"....I felt so fucking relieved. It was good to see her finally standing up for herself and not letting Catra walk all over her.

[@TiagoyMar1000]

Yes and no. Scorpia never respected her boundaries. I would’ve cut her off a long time ago

[@tidepodpadthai2633]

@@TiagoyMar1000 they were both bad for eachother, everyone acts like it was 100% catra's fault but scorpia did things wrong too

[@Rachel-xu7jj]

@@tidepodpadthai2633 what did scorpia do wrong in their relationship? Genuinely curious It’s been a while since I’ve seen the show

[@HaydrogenBomb]

@@Rachel-xu7jj She was unable to read the room and give Catra the space she OBVIOUSLY was asking for.

[@avarayne8091]

SAME

[@TChops-hi7hr]

Scorpia up & left Catra's toxic vibes and went and found friends that grew to care about her. Good for her.

[@feethandsss]

TChops 2019 ikkk, catra is SO incredibly toxic and abusive to every one, but the minute anything inconvenient happens to her she’s like “omg i’m such an abused little victim uwu 🥺🥺🥺”. the way she treats everyone (especially scorpia) is awful and disgusting

[@Therealjonathandavis666]

@@feethandsss Catra is "toxic and abusive", is because adora left Catra. She is just like Azula, they're evil because they are not loved enough.

[@ramywiles]

@@feethandsss Genuinely curious, when do you see her leveraging her abuse to get out of being held accountable for what she does? Because I can't think of a single instance of that. I mostly see her refusing to acknowledge that she's hurting at all.

[@adrianag4532]

Catra made it clear she didnt want to be friends with her over and over but she kept pushing,shes not entirely innocent herself she shouldve learned damn boundaries and backed off of course catra is a bad friend cuz she NEVER wanted to be friends with scorpia since the beginning

[@filmalemon3890]

sisi. animations abusive? I see nothing abusive about her sure she’s violent but violent and abusive are two very different things plus; adora left catra and adora being catra’s best friend broke her heart Catra was scared that if she let someone in they’ll leave just like adora AND not to mention catra has a crush on adora which hurts even more Edit: and btw catra was abused not physically but mentally what do you think it does to you if the person you view as your mother keeps telling you that your an mistake and she tries to separate you and your bestfriend cause she calls you a bad influence That’s frustrating and it breaks you especially if it keeps on reapeting itself

[@belladuricko53]

2:57 “You took everything from me” but really meant: “ *You were everything to me* “

[@KittyCats198]

Are*

[@agnesgecsey7400]

Oh yessss

[@Pancakeboii]

Omg yes

[@nikitalachke1808]

zcvbvcvcxdsffg shut the fuck up u don’t understand her beautiful character

[@nikitalachke1808]

zcvbvcvcxdsffg yeah i also am. that’s why i respect and understand her so much.

[@nyxcal]

can you do a compilation of people making fun of adora’s hair

[@pleaseenteraname2745]

I want it so much

[@user-yl6ey6rc5y]

YES I NEED THAT

[@justyouraverageanimesimp928]

Yesss

[@pekmawi30]

YES

[@fantasticnerd7978]

But I really like her hair

[@jareththegoblinking3191]

5:41 She is so adorable here, she's just one of those cats who wants to lay anywhere they want no matter who it annoys

[@AtticusKarpenter]

cats do this when they want attention from their human, Catra is no diffirent 😊

[@chickentendies6836]

Everyone: Say the line Catra Catra: *Sigh,* Hey Adora

[@al1x102]

@@Soph-TV catra is here :O

[@giovannamoreira4186]

QWERTYUIOP

[@Hellothere-ky4jr]

@@Soph-TV Y E S

[@gildimaano5963]

@Catra shook pikachu face

[@Nelmel2007]

@@Soph-TV YOU ARE A BOTTOM CATRA

[@doggomurph7763]

Alternative Title: Every Catra Scene

[@doggomurph7763]

Lol she is nice in some scenes though 🐱

[@refail1388]

Catra 🤝 Azula: Slowly falling apart after their closest people abandoned them, being sassy, amazing fighting and strategy skills Catra 🤝 Zuko: angst, redemption arc, left eye is different from the right one Catra 🤝 Azula 🤝 Zuko: traumatized by their parental figures, struggle to show emotion, socially awkward

[@keicentury6824]

Yes great comparison I always thought of Catra as Azula/Zuko And also Bow he is like half Sokka half Katara

[@refail1388]

@@keicentury6824 yeah! I couldn't agree more with that! Also Bow reminds me a lot of Bolin for some reason

[@jadenmccown2132]

(My personal opinion don't get mad, oh wait this is KZbin not Reddit, sorry) Yes and no, I personally think ATLA is 100% better, as well as TLoK, but okay, to each their own Edit: Still love She-Ra 100% as well as Kipo 100% they're all my favorites, just ATLA and TLoK are 200%, but I love them all as favorite and best shows ever shows ever. I mean this.

[@jadenmccown2132]

@@topsurgeryatclaires TLoK is The Legend of Korra

[@lonely_wolf8891]

@@jadenmccown2132 same but Catra is just superior

[@slylover123]

Love how she uses Kyle as an insult

[@Hellothere-ky4jr]

.

[@lucidfangirl1030]

Poor Kyle he's underrated

[@bambidolly777]

fr

[@toadlord8594]

Poor Kyle, he deserves better

[@arr8wboii]

"catra mean moments" i was expecting the whole series, but yea i guess this works too.

[@that-queer-fnaf-theorist]

Well catra has a lot of nice moments too.. you just gotta look past her mental health deteriorating as she becomes more ruthless and aparently s***idal-

[@giovannamoreira4186]

GiovANNA 14

[@Hellothere-ky4jr]

@@that-queer-fnaf-theorist .

[@TF_-sb4nv]

I love that part with Catra.

[@bronte839]

Me too. That one part is my favorite

[@ag-dn1vl]

That one was amazing.

[@lianderey2293]

Everyone does

[@purple_cacti]

woah same! but that other part with catra is also really good

[@xempororhxppyx]

@@purple_cacti well I think the part where Catra was being mean was the best part of the video .

[@ariitheway]

God, I love soft, redeemed s5 Catra with my whole heart. But mean, lil gremlin bastard "I think I will cause trouble on purpose while running from my feelings" Catra will always have a special place in my heart lmao.

[@giovannamoreira4186]

ASDFGHJKL

[@songbird6414]

She’s an excellent villain, you gotta admit it.

[@AtticusKarpenter]

She also good example of "strong woman character". Not invincible saint Mary Sue, but cunning, ruthless fighter and indomitable person who stands against enemies much bigger, stronger (at least physically) and higher in hierarchy than she is. She also can be wrong (and not in just "now i redeemed and good" part). And she beat Adora's superpowered ass several times. Very hard not to root for Catra, honestly. Its catasctrofically not enough of screen time when Adora and Catra at one side, i want season 6 omggg >_

[@toadlord8594]

@@AtticusKarpenterCatra walked so Sasha Waybright (Amphibia) and Amity Blight could run.

[@pridecat]

@@toadlord8594 lmao they weren't even villains wdym. sasha was an anti-hero (not the same thing)

[@brainstorm623]

Alternate Title: "99% of Catra's scenes".

[@hollertubes1647]

Lmao yes

[@juanjuri6127]

lashing out at scorpia was the meanest thing she ever did, and that includes all the war crimes and that time she broke the universe on purpose

[@wtfasa13]

*Catra kills someone* The Fandom: Aww but she’s so cute though

[@hollertubes1647]

This is so accurate

[@ramywiles]

... I'm in this photo and I don't like it.jpg

[@TF_-sb4nv]

I can't help it. I love her.

[@beatrixthegreat1138]

Well it’s like when your cat bats a dead mouse around. You might be repulsed but they look so damn cute. Legend has it tunge lashor is still in the quicksand saying “uh guys?”

[@jurithemusicdivaofficial]

It's okay to love Catra, since I love her myself. But like, I just find it hypocritical that they hate on Glimmer and Swift Wind (seriously, why him??) when Catra's done worse things.

[@mr.4o513]

Netflix: how about you wat- me: 3:17

[@juno8731]

MOOD

[@hollertubes1647]

Literally what I see on twitter right now

[@falconeshield]

Farquaad moment

[@solemnsummers9395]

ME

[@ClaireSamuelsVA]

AHAHA

[@giuliapavel725]

0:11 wow adora really has a big forehead 🤣🤣

[@aphiidoidea]

I love Catra. Such an icon. To be honest, I think I like the “meaner” version of her a little more than how she is now, but she would still be gay for Adora, of course.

[@hollertubes1647]

Ofc

[@theofficalsilentraven]

Same

[@aphiidoidea]

Cilantro Yes, I can relate with you 100%.

[@emmacroker5603]

@Cilantro tbh I get what u mean but she did keep some of her personality because she didn't turn into a cuddly warm showering u with compliments person. That's what I like because I think if they changed her completely she wouldn't be her.

[@that-queer-fnaf-theorist]

I personally enjoy both but i like S5 nicer-ish catra- she realises her problems and wants to get better, but she still retains her attitute and her constant teasing traits, while being less violent and toxic at the same time

[@Serenity0220]

You ever just think about that if Catra had grown up in a healthy environment, her naturally loving and teasing nature that we see more of in season 5 would have shown through since she isn't riddled with trauma and abuse that caused her to close off the vulnerable parts of herself to keep herself safe. 😭 It breaks my heart, truly.

[@dabi-is-online23]

Absolutely, since in the world she grew up in, she had to deal with her bpd pretty much by herself.

[@Animateitem99]

​@@dabi-is-online23I knew she was the villain the whole time

[@sparxstreak02]

I reckon the only season Catra was really ‘mean’ was Season 4 but she was drowning in her own toxicity by that point. But being the strongest & bravest character by FAR, she found a way out 2 the other side 👏

[@gayvagina7353]

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[@that-queer-fnaf-theorist]

Right. She was at her lowest point in season 4 it seems.. she just needs looooove

[@moonchasesme.9524]

Yes. It feels like by the end of Season 3 she was the most suicidal (and even attempted to end her life, mmm end everything per se, pulling that lever) and Season 4 is when you survive your attempt and then you just become obsessed with something. I became obsessed with righting my mistakes when I tried, but that's because I had help. Catra didn't have it (not in the way she needed back then, anyways), so she succumbed to the toxicity once again. Even more, actually. She felt like she didn't have anything to lose (and she really didn't, besides, well, her life). Then Glimmer comes, Catra asks her to "end it". Catra's still acting suicidal, she wants to die, because if you stay in the same place and don't get any help the death desire won't go away. Catra sacrifices herself to save Glimmer. We see how similar they are and how they somehow relate to one another, and maybe, even if consciously Catra didn't think Adora would come back for her, Catra's subconscious knew that by saving Glimmer (who had made similar mistakes and was in a pretty similar situation with her friends, as they talked) she was also saving herself. So it's not just Catra saving Gllimer and then Adora saving Catra. Catra is saving herself too. After that, it's hard, but she finally accepts that she needs help. Catra survived once again, and this time, when she survives, she's surrounded my caring, by love. People she thought that hated her, are worrying about her, are trying to make her feel accepted. And now she's obsessed with changing. She's changing places, she's changing herself, because she wants too, because she needs to. I think this ambiguity between "want" and "need" is also perfectly shown in Adora's character, what she feels she needs to do vs. what she wants to do. Anyway, Catra passed through so much, as did everyone else in the show. They deserve a happy ending.

[@sparxstreak02]

@@moonchasesme.9524 well said 👏 Interesting tho, how Catra took the 1st step on her own 2 change, but it wasn’t until Catra was back in Adora’s life that Adora made changes 2 her own behaviour - listening more, seeing things from someone else’s perspective, generally being more emotionally supportive & realising that selfishness has its place just as selflessness does.

[@evanescencelight6767]

@@that-queer-fnaf-theorist yeah...someone who literally killed someone else’s mom and nearly destroyed the whole entire universe, needs love 🤦‍♂️

[@soot.gremlin1056]

“She’s not mean, she’s misunderstood.”

[@mollymcmurtrie8037]

She nearly blew up the worlds I nearly tried to kill a lot of people how was that yes she's mean and

[@mollymcmurtrie8037]

She nearly blew up the world and tried to kill a lot of people how is that is misunderstood if anything she's mean and Evil

[@mollymcmurtrie8037]

@@dvssaur she still nearly ended the entire world she was definitely mean and definitely nasty is definitely not misunderstood because if you watch the episode she almost broke the entire world and said she'd do it again just by the door up she is crazy I'm not saying limor was much better believe me she was not much better cuz she also nearly destroyed the world world they both did because she repeats because people who watch the show have you even watch the show she nearly broke the entire world next to glimmer a both did.

[@ftgihf467]

@@mollymcmurtrie8037 Catra is a teenager who was abused her whole life and felt deeply betrayed by the only person who was safe for her. Ofc she is going to act irrational and try to do awful things, especially when she was taught at a young age the only reason she is alive is adora and now that she thinks adora betrayed her she has to prove she’s good enough. She is just a scared teenager acting out with too much power in a WAR.

[@mollymcmurtrie8037]

@@ftgihf467 yes I don't care if she was responsible for her own actions and even a store's been showing nothing but time is or if he's even the traitor she offered her to come with her is just an awful person if he deserve to die they said that they would do if the entire universe if you don't even care there's been a lot of teenagers who have been abused and they don't act like that

[@Lin2Waterfall]

what about Adora/She-Ra Rage Moments? Let's see our big dumb jock get PISSED.

[@hollertubes1647]

I'm so gonna do this

[@beatrixthegreat1138]

Holler Tubes yay!

[@melodicaheart415]

What I find interesting is that in seasons 1 and 2 her quips are mostly comebacks, whereas season 3 and 4 she’s the one picking the fights/starting things. It’s nice to see she has a gentler personality in season 5

[@a.g.m9078]

Mean? Lol, called it what it is, abusive and toxic

[@Noobmasterdp]

Dats troo

[@aylarisss]

Scorpia is officially THE strongest character of the show, she is so nice with Catra no matter what even enter realizing she is a bad friend she still defends her !

[@johnmobley9369]

Catra is still a victim you can be both toxic and a victim. That’s why it’s called the cycle of abuse and it doesn’t absolve her from what she’s done people around her but it does make it understandable and it allows people to sympathize which is valid. I can never fully hit her for her behavior because I saw how much she was hurting. People are perfect their complex. She’s one of the most realistic characters within the show and it can seem like she’s worse than she is by comparison. She’s in no ways perfect but I saw her for the mess she was and chose to support and love her because I can relate. And the other people she’s hurt don’t have to forgive her she is absolved from redemption and even love. She was raised being mentally and physically abused. Degraded and put against her best friend. That shaped you. Because of it she pushed away the people who wanted to show her genuine care. Don’t get me wrong there were moments where I was so pissed at her especially with Scorpia but like I said she’s just very easy to sympathize with for me and it doesn’t help that she’s a badass. If you can pick up on the smallest details so call someone pathetic exactly the way she would be referred to. She would even try and trust shadoweaver because even though she’s grunt to hate her she still wants some type of validation from her because that was her mother figure after all and she never did anything to be this woman’s punching bag. This stuff happens in real life and everyone’s journey and learning to cope and to develop healthy relationship and social habits is different.

[@non5025]

i really want to know how catra knows what a light show is now

[@sparkybraincell2159]

3:53 the *hurt* in Scorpia's face…

[@hearts4b1llzo]

Is it weird to say that Catra has this seductive tone to her voice.. Like-

[@lanya5397]

right

[@ultravioletgames8473]

I JSU realized something the readon she hates glimmer and bow is because adora had other friends and she thought(and still thinks)that adora doesn’t want to be her friend

[@sousousaidyes]

the worst phrase:"bye adora"

[@freshpastasauce9782]

"You even taste like glitter!" that's concerning...🤣

[@egyptiangod2023]

3:32 "assess faster" got me crying

[@thatonekid1.6millionyearsa78]

2:07 even drunk Adora can tell that catra is mean just wow

[@gayvagina7353]

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[@babygorilla4233]

A true evil commander does not say im your commander! Don't talk to me like that. A true evil commander kills Lonnie on the spot.

[@julytopia]

She was about to hurt Lonnie but Kyle stopped her

[@babygorilla4233]

@@julytopia off with both their heads!

[@RaquelAlves-hx5xh]

6:07 the funniest joke ever

[@siel6214]

catra: 1:07 also catra: Adora! I'm sorry! For everything!

[@slylover123]

I miss seeing 'kids' content with comments enabled so us adults can share theories and stan together ♥️

[@theofficalsilentraven]

Ikr

[@phantomshere]

It's called abusive moments

[@tidepodpadthai2633]

I love how everyone is like "grr i hate catra she mean >:(" like,,she's a villain?? of course she's not gonna be all sunshine and rainbows, not to mention she's been in the horde since childhood, cruelty is all she's ever known, and she does un-learn it eventually.

[@bbaby_driverr]

I would literally die for little Catra

[@anthonymahae7541]

Me 2

[@HaydrogenBomb]

Same. I love ALL scenes with little Catra 😍

[@bnhaizawa]

0:38 yknow I just realized this sentence is grammatically incorrect, which makes it even more funny because she was saying Adora’s tiara is stupid😭😭

[@Thebeezzkneezz.]

Toxic moments*

[@Queen-kk7id]

I’m surprised this ain’t ten hours long my lord-

[@shiranails0137]

People hate Catra because she's mean. Remember, no one in the horde like catra since the beginning accept Adora.

[@gayvagina7353]

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[@wiwi7902]

Ah yes, not being liked excuses everything she does

[@ryanwong7054]

Tbh when she hurt Entrapta that’s what did it for me No one hurts the *smol bean* that is ENTRAPTA

[@wppb50]

"Is the one you call 'Catra' not mean?" "...no, she is." "There. There."

[@quinnguyen4620]

DUDE where's all the shit she pulled on Hordak though? That smirk when she pulls the wire and also the time she dissed the shit out of him in the s4 finale would've been fantastic for this

[@tipsy634]

i agree she was so mean to him in season 4 in both a good and horrific way

[@toadlord8594]

@@tipsy634 Is it weird in their fight in season 4 that Hordak felt like the hero trying to kill Catra after learning she sent Entrapta to Beast Island cause at the time that’s how I felt when I first watched it.

[@Douglas_Props]

“Should I buy property here?” Gets me every time 🤣🤣

[@D3Z0L4T3]

5:00 "Why'd you do it" *GASP* *FLOP*

[@maxord11]

The sub that's trying so hard to be the dom.

[@songbird6414]

Idk man she’s pretty much the angry bottom stereotype

[@star_crossed0_077]

I don't wanna offend anyone here but I really wanted to share my opinion on catra's looks Long story short- Catra with mane is better than Catra with short hair, the exact reason I don't even know but partially I said this because with short hair Catra looks too vulnerable but with that mane she's like the one with infinite power and bossy and I love that part of her. I've been talking for too long.

[@imadethisaccountasakid]

I have a whole ass essay in my head about why season 4 catras design was the most fitting for the character while also being the most fire

[@jurithemusicdivaofficial]

Same, I like the version of Catra with her mane better than her short haired version.

[@ag-dn1vl]

I prefer Catra’s hair in season 4 over 1-3 and 5

[@amxthyst_spell1662]

I agree

[@emmacroker5603]

The only snag I've got is why didn't glimmer question catra about her mum. I mean I wouldn't of blamed her if she did and she had plenty of chances. I'm not hating on catra though. I'm just a bit surprised that glimmer didn't though

[@keroessa0146]

Props to AJ

[@EasyWater]

She got even more toxic when she had power. Like when she became 2nd in command or could control the people in the crimson waste.

[@TooKiwi]

I’m surprised this isn’t at least 30 minutes long or something....

[@somestrangerontheinternet3411]

I'm a simple girl I see a picture of catra on the thumbnail *I click*

[@gale7a]

Seeing this reminds me how mean and rude catra is 😳😔

[@daisyfrostwarrior1689]

CATRAAAA

[@daisyfrostwarrior1689]

I'm first don't know what to do/say

[@wongmegan7335]

Lol

[@hollertubes1647]

@@daisyfrostwarrior1689 Well congrats on being the first to comment I guess

[@beanymcmuffin6452]

4:01 yuh, this is what scorpia should have said a long time ago, awe i so sorry scorpia

[@Ballerinamonet]

“U have 6:47 minutes to live” Me:

[@wispy_nova]

As much as I love Catra, i don't like the way she treated Adora and the others for quite the longest time before she joined the rebellion.

[@uncutguy7008]

You are PATHETIC! -Catra ™️ 4:42

[@Zephirite.]

It’s really unsettling to see Catra’s mean moments (AKA Catra’s moments of perpetuating the abuse her entire character exists to condemn) compiled the same way her funny moments or moments with Adora would, let alone used to VINDICATE her actions. People are talking about how Catra’s abuse was so terrible (which it was) and how I much they relate to her, without realizing how people relate to the characters she abuses in turn. It becomes clear to see how toxic Catradora is when you genderbend one of its members. Abuse should NOT be romanticized, and if you want to use abuse to vindicate Catra’s character, you need to do the same to the people she’s hurt. Someone’s actions being understandable does not erase the effect they have on the people around them. Adora left the Horde and begged for Catra to join her, only for the latter to turn it into a guilt trip and blame Adora for the suffering her OWN actions caused. I’ve had people in my life who have turned my words against me, even when I tried to help them, and I’m learning to balance self-care with my (perceived) obligation to the world. It was horrifying to see Catra’s actions dismissed so quickly in the show, and it hurt twice as bad to watch the fandom praise She-ra for it’s inclusivity when it blatantly minimized the experiences of abuse victims inside the show and out. I am guilty of holding Catradora to different standards than I do heterosexual relationships, but I am working on that, because true equality can only be achieved when we as a society are as willing to call out toxic behaviors in LGBTQIA+ relationships as we are straight ones, while still remaining respectful of the discrimination members of the community are put through. I’m not attacking anyone, including the person who made this video, I just want to bring awareness to the effect it had on other people, and open a gateway to respectful and open discussion about She-Ra, negative and positive aspects alike.

[@gayvagina7353]

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[@Zephirite.]

@@gayvagina7353 Huh, interesting video. Thanks for posting it instead of a hate comment; this is actually helpful. Honestly, my opinions on She-ra kind of oscillate between “this show sucks” and “this show’s brilliant,” and The Lunarium’s (wonderful) video was really useful, and helped inform my opinion on the show. I stand by what I said about the show having writing issues, but while they prevented me from being as invested in the show as I could’ve been, I still appreciate the concepts and emotions behind it. So, thank you, for reminding me that the while the show isn’t perfect, it means a damn lot to some people, and recognizing that doesn’t necessarily detract from those who were hurt by She-ra’s narrative. Have a nice day/night. :)

[@retrorewind844]

PREACHHH

[@sanyokk8024]

YES why isn't this more talked about

[@glimmerstantroop46321]

finally, somebody mentioning this who isn't being downright hostile

[@ladydragon5923]

well i think catra was mean since season 1 ep 3 to 5 ep 2 but, for me that i literaly wanted punch her in the face is when she treated scorpia badly

[@ecaterina6035]

Tbh I understand her, it was wrong to treat scorpia like that but Scorpia was the one pushing Catra, she never wanted to be friends with scorpia and she made it clear

[@gayvagina7353]

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[@noorijon]

I literally can't get how people liked her pre season five... in season five, she started to grow and become a better person, but during literally every moment before-hand she was such a toxic, mean, and needlessly cruel character. Yes, she grew up in an abusive household, and yes, that does make sense of SOME of her actions. However, growing up in a toxic environment absolutely does NOT excuse the way she continued to treat others, especially Scorpia and Entrapta, who had welcomed her immediately with open arms as their friend and whom she treated like trash, and it DEFINITELY does not excuse almost wiping the world from existence because of some petty vengeance quest against Adora. I can't like her, she did too much damage, and when people excuse her behavior with "but she's so cute/hot 🥺" it enables a cycle of abuse. Being hot NEVER excuses behavior like hers, and it is genuinely harmful to think that it does. Realizing her mistakes and apologizing, and helping out the good guys WAS A STEP in the right direction, but ultimately she is not a good person. Edit: I also can't bring myself to ship Catra and Adora - their relationship feels built on guilt and anger. My go-to ships from the show are definitely Scorpia and Perfuma, as well as Spinerella x Netossa and Bow's dads. (I honestly like even Glimmer x Adora more than Catadora.) They are much, much healthier relationships, and both of the people in them are genuinely good people who both have goof things to offer to the other.

[@ecaterina6035]

When ppl say that they forgave Catra for being hot, it s a joke lmao. Apart from that, everyone can have their opinion, personally I think she always was a good person deep down, just very messed up. And the portal thing and everything after was more or less of a suicide attempt, we already knew she" already lost everything". Either way it definetly wasn t a rational desicion, she was just seing red at that moment.

[@gayvagina7353]

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[@ramywiles]

I liked Catra from the beginning because I always like fictional characters like her. I like snarky fictional people who are carrying a lot of rage and grief and pain and actually have a lot of love to give when they're given the chance. I find them compelling, and I find it rewarding when the narrative takes them to a place where they can give that love a little more freely. And yes, I think she's hot. I make a _lot_ of jokes about how incurable my crush on her is. (The fight between her and Glimmer in "Pulse" is one of my favorite scenes -- I love watching her calculated, defensive, acrobatic fighting style, and I think the lighting from the fires Glimmer inadvertently started started makes them both look _stunning.)_ All this, _and_ I have moments where I just can't root for her because what she's doing is too painful or close to home. If you don't like characters like Catra, that's fine, you don't have to, but it doesn't mean that I and others like me can't distinguish her good behavior from her bad behavior, and it certainly doesn't mean that we're hand-waving away the real-world analogues of her bad behavior just because she's hot. Fiction very often holds up a mirror to reality, and She-Ra is no exception, but it's not actually real, and audiences are aware of where those lines are drawn far more often than online fandom tends to give them credit for. It's not genuinely harmful to think that a hot, mean, fictional girl being allowed to descend to some really low depths and then come out the other side a more healed person is good storytelling. It's not genuinely harmful to understand those depths and still like her while she's in them.

[@mikey_me13]

Scorpia loves Catra but catra loves Adora and Adora loves Catra what about Scorpia

[@ag-dn1vl]

2:01 oh shit what was the actual reason she was that happy

[@gayvagina7353]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y3SwhGWYfdh6r68 And this the actual reason she’s “mean”

[@goregeous]

I really don't like catra, she abused adora physically and mentally.

[@goregeous]

And she gets away with it cause she's a lesbian, man if the genders were switched people would be shitting on catra

[@RinaitiReefNaviWaterbender]

I just love Catra period also I love how she’s both mean and hot at the same time

[@mortimer8704]

2:56 adora do be thick tho

[@IsThisUsernameAvailable]

How can people ship these two, mean? More like abusive moments

[@archive6245]

Ikr

[@IsThisUsernameAvailable]

@@A--NguyenNhaQuan I did, still abusive tho

[@evangeliaiscoolscrewu]

Catra: “You suck.” Scorpia: “No u” Catra: O_O

[@ughhhhhhh8482]

3:48 damn this actually hits hard im crying. My friends do be like that tho.

[@wongmegan7335]

Lol

[@hollertubes1647]

XD

[@paolotorres8537]

She was always mean, I don’t get it. Season 4 however, was Catra at her absolute worst.

[@Pancakeboii]

2:56 *woah catra slow down 😳*

[@kipo6482]

catra is adorable doe

[@hollertubes1647]

Yes she is Adora-ble

[@kipo6482]

@@Soph-TV U. ARE. CUTE. XD

[@kipo6482]

@@Soph-TV AAAA OMG

[@anthonymahae7541]

Yes

[@ronoble2674]

Catra seriously didn’t deserve to end up with Adora. Not saying she wasn’t a compelling villain or an interesting character but she wasn’t stable enough to be a romantic relationship. Just ending up with Adora isn’t going to make her issues or attitude go away. She’s also hurt Adora a lot despite being the closest to her when Adora never did anything to her.

[@ramywiles]

It's not really true that Adora never did anything to her, though. It's pretty clear that while they were growing up, Adora frequently sided with Shadow Weaver over Catra. It's not her _fault,_ in the same way that Catra having the patterns of behavior that she does is not _her_ fault, but the hurt is mutual. Their relationship isn't flawed because Catra is bad and Adora is good -- it's flawed because Shadow Weaver has made them both believe exactly that, and that has completely twisted how they are capable of relating to each other. The show's development of their relationship is all about them learning to stop relating to each other through those externally-imposed lenses.

[@linettexie2373]

Don't get me wrong, I love Catra in all seasons, but season 5 Catra is superior because that's when she was the happiest. Every other season she was extremely mentally unstable, toxic, and had a shit to of suicidal tendencies. Happy Catra is best Catra.

[@gayvagina7353]

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[@rachel7815]

Unpopular opinion but I loved her when she was evil. 😳

[@omg7084]

Same

[@momospinklamborghini]

5:58 facts 😌👌

[@TheRedRoseofJujutsuKaisen]

Catra is flawed yeah but that’s why I like her. She mean, rude, and mischievous with anger issues but I would rather have a flawed character instead of Mary Sue/gray sue nice character. I seen people don’t like Catra or they really like her and you know what? that’s *good* she’s written to be realistic, some people in real life aren’t going to like you and some will. If your character is flawed enough to feel like a real person that people can both like and dislike then you’re doing something right. Edit: Same goes with Glimmer too I seen people straight up don't like her or just really really hate her, yeah she made mistakes but she slowly starts to learned from them. We need more protagonists like Glimmer who are allowed to have flaws and made mistakes but learn to be better and work on their flaws. I think the reason why we have so many bland good girls/boys characters and why we like villains so much (besides them having pretty privilege) because they're the protagonist they have to be good and have no flaws in order for us to like them. Look main characters especially good guy characters can still be likeable and relatable and still have flaws they don't have to be a Mary sue in order for us as the audience to like them. Buuuut there also another problem I noticed with the main protagonist is that there no clear answer on what the audience wants, if the main character is a Mary sue we don't like them but if the main character actually start showing flaws and make mistakes we still don't like them. Best example: is Marinette from miraculous ladybug aside from her being a simp/stalker people don't like Marinette because she a mary sue and I understand that. But people don't like Glimmer because despite her actually having flaws and allowing to made mistakes people instantly starts hating her for it. I swear once a character starts to made a mistake or hell a simple mistake people would start getting on the hate train and making them seem like they're the bad guy despite the fact they're written to be a flaw character even they're on the good side, good people makes mistake too guys nobody perfect.

[@buck-the-vocab-mascot]

Did anyone else notice hos Catra and Cassandra ( from Rapunzel) are the same person? They both have a "mother figure" that abused them ( Shadow Weaver, Gothel( red outfits, black hair)), who turned them down for blond magical princes ( Andora, Rapunzel) which made them feel second-best. First, they were best friends with that "magical princes", that helped them fight with childhood "demons". Then they both snuck out with their best friend and they both suffered worse consequences than their friends. And as time goes, they realized that they were turned down for their best friend long enough and go along with someone eviler than them ( Hordak, Zhan Tiri). But eventually, they got back on the good side, and together with their friends fight the evil. They have also same personalities. The I-hate-you-all-and-I-will-kill-you-all. Live to fight, and both were commanding the army ( Force Captain, and Captain of the Guard for some time). Sarcasm. Dark humor. And name calling. And they even look alike. Dark eyes, black hair. Did something like Spider-verse happen for real?

[@olivialeger3647]

Catra is my favorite character. This is why.

[@valorintheircorner]

2:12 Catra: You’re the failure Lonnie: _don’t laugh don’t laugh don’t laugh-_

[@SannidhiDeshpande]

Accurate

[@SannidhiDeshpande]

EMOTIONAL DAMAGE

[@thecalloutkid4952]

This is why I dont like Tsunderes.

[@yes.thatchild]

season 4 Catra and season 5 Catra are two different spices

[@gearboxsys9313]

it hurts because a lot of this meanness (especially in season 4) is a result of stress and trauma

[@frenchhufflepuffie83]

There are mean moments and MEAN MOMENTS in there

[@emmaloctober6001]

The growth though, learning to respond to love in a healthy way by the end. I hope they have therapy in their world

[@ramywiles]

I'm guessing Catra will eventually take Perfuma up on those guided meditations :')

[@abby2199]

#stopkyleabuse2020 😔🤚🏼

[@beepbeep1477]

I remember when some people thought Catra was going to be able to turn into an actual cat in season 5 😂

[@Angel-fl3cz]

That’s not mean just facts 6:30