Best before dates: How supermarkets tamper with your food (CBC Marketplace)

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[@brettdomenick]

I have worked in the produce, meat, and bakery departments at a BJ's wholesale club in the U.S.. at the store I worked at, dates were taken very seriously. If dates were ever changed, they were only shortened. I am very thankful I belonged to a store that didnt make me cheat dates like this.

[@priscillaleigh6856]

Brett Domenick p

[@NanaNaima1]

trying to promote ur store bruh

[@brettdomenick]

NLT4Ever #1 yes, I'm totally trying to make all of you shop at the store I work at to simply pay for my schooling by commenting on the KZbin video of a Canadian TV network. I can already see the sales I've made now that all of these canadians are driving down to pennsylvania to buy lettuce.

[@MAGWolf]

USDA would FINE anyone that does it greatly so I don't think anyone in America does it. Also It can also lead to prison sentence. Most places will mark price down and say cook up ASAP. www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1365

[@susanpendell4215]

I wouldn't be surprised to see this in Walmart or some other supermarkets in the USA. Maybe not to the same degree, but don't go into this with your eyes shut and be choosy, not trustingly lazy, be on the alert. I went into an Asian market, in the USA and there was a lid unscrewed on a jar of sauce. I told a clerk and he did nothing about it. I put it back on the shelf and don't buy sauce there. Always check lids for tightness and must be wrapped. That was just sauce, other things could be that way too.

[@MeMe-nw9mq]

The more I watch stuff like this, the more attractive it becomes to buy a few acres of land, grow our own food, plant a few fruit trees, some strawberry plants, some raspberry bushes, raise a cow and a pig every year, raise chickens for our eggs and poultry and become as self sufficient as possible

[@NetSkillNavigator]

I'd do the same.. I admit I'm very addicted to this (highly) processed food, and the more I watch documentaries about the food industry, the more I become disgusted with fast-food chains & processed food. It's so much better to make your home-maid version of ham or cake..

[@glowblank17]

@Me Me, *You are my hero 😫 👍🏻!*

[@archkull]

It's hard work on its own, starting it off is hard too, and will only get more and more expensive as the rich get richer and the poorer get poorer, land becomes more scarce and the average person is no longer able to start such a thing. Already that way where I am in Germany, with all the regulations added on top. Americans have it lucky at least, there is plenty of land there. It's very depressing.

[@RLaraMoore]

Can I come too?

[@xvpbignub4294]

@@archkull how will you be poorer when your cost is 0? im going to grow plant farms though because yes cattle is getting less profitable and vegetation is becoming more profitable

[@rish2891993]

And this is before the pandemic, Imagine how companies are cutting costs now

[@barryjohnnewman8993]

I work in a retail grocery store. They don’t need to cuts costs… dirty little secret is sales have nearly doubled on a daily basis since the beginning of the pandemic… Why can’t people see that’s why this won’t end To much money to be made

[@randomgodll1073]

ngl we have sold spoiled chicken

[@petershulick5270]

I've run into some bad cantaloupe from Walmart that was cut up and put in plastic containers versus the whole cantaloupe melons that I ordered to begin with

[@PhaseSkater]

what pandemic?

[@davehibbs9111]

I work in the meat department and since the pandemic we no longer have expired anything! Food flies off of the shelves as fast as we can actually put it out! Before the coronavirus it looked just as bad as this video....

[@HeatherMaxon]

In Morocco, to make meat look fresher, they put red lights over the red meat section. I buy my meat straight from a butcher. I watch them cut it off the hide and grind it or filet or cube it in front of me.

[@lovelyletter7460]

I noticed at market basket, the lights over the chicken case have a pinkish cast, which I noticed because they would instantly become a duller color once I took it out of the case.

[@HeatherMaxon]

@R S you can travel to Morocco now.

[@gossman75]

@Heather Maxon But the whole meat chunks might not be fresh either. Just like a deer carcass that my Dad had hanging in the barn for too long and has turned kind of green. We had to get rid of it. Unfit to eat.

[@kenyaamina257]

instead of "best before dates" they should put "eat at your own risk"

[@Tina-ez4xi]

Love your comment 1,000x!!

[@obscured9414]

You think that it would be logical for someone to make their "money makers" sound more dangerous by putting EAT AT YOUR OWN RISK? I know that if i saw that , personally, i would wonder what that 'risk' is. It'd de-interest me faster than eating passed a best b4 date. U have a good point but... This is food we r talking. W no best b4 date and a beware risk type of switch ... Itd be like not taking responsibility for serving gross sick inducing , disease causing (in worse case) , old foods. No. They need to serve it and serve it fresh. it is real shady to allow ppl to serve the population w this risk warning and is tampering.. so i think so.

[@bombasticlovalova3186]

And drop the price 99%

[@gailmiller6333]

Kenya Amina 😂True!😂

[@81sexislim]

Facts!

[@nichegoseberazdvatri]

“Shut the front door” 😆 I haven’t heard that phrase since 2000

[@basslv69]

it was in Endgame when Hulk says that

[@justmeandthethree]

I said it yesterday to my sons because they left the front door open.

[@jazzyk4046]

@@justmeandthethree 😂

[@ricardomoon]

Haha I thought It was a cool phrase !!

[@peterp4876]

when I lived with my parents, it was always "shut the fridge door" the damn door hinges needed oiling!

[@bryanlariviere5702]

I am comfortable buying meat at my stores I use to work there, we do not have a meat processor there. All the meat we sold (And the meat they still sell) came in on a truck, they can't repackage it or re-redden it. That said, we actually buy our cuts of meat from an actual butcher. Ground beef, cold cuts and chickens from the store, Steak, pork chops, and ham, the butcher.

[@anthonybutto1925]

I think it's wise to say why some people say grace before every meal.

[@JustMe-pq7je]

Na. Just don't eat meats and dairy.

[@grahammcfadyenhill9555]

So, grace is actually a prayer for continued good health despite the food that is being served? I did not know that.

[@anthonybutto1925]

@@grahammcfadyenhill9555 There is a lot in life that mankind does not know. If you were to ask me, who, how, when, where, why and what, I would not know.

[@Lisa.G412]

I worked at a giant eagle in Pittsburgh, PA. And everything you have showed they have done and are still doing. And today is 6/6/2020

[@robinluich6626]

That's probably who she was working for.

[@spindleblood]

Which one? I grew up there haha

[@MyBelgianAzzy]

Thank you for sharing!

[@stevethea5250]

@@robinluich6626 DO THEY TALK ABOUT "USE BY" DATES

[@vijaychauhan9613]

412 girl..... trust me calgary Alberta....i dont want to name the store....they sacked me when i started making noise 1🔥👀🏴‍☠️

[@jayit6851]

Thanks CBC, I'm never eating food again.

[@LulitaInPita]

Lol

[@joycefranzen3297]

Lol

[@fuvk2345]

so you're still alive right? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@jayit6851]

EightyEight Gaming Yes but I am only 69 pounds now...

[@fuvk2345]

+Trenton Pottruff good to know...

[@Irrowboats]

I worked at a Subway and we would put little stickers on it saying when the product expires. My manager told us to just replace the stickers when it expired. Once there was mold on some of our meat, and she asked me to just take the top layer off. The meatballs were only sposed to be good after a few hours, but we would just replace the stickers. We would also put the left over meatballs in the fridge at night, and reheat them the next day, which we are NOT supposed to do.

[@mikeries8549]

That manager was clearing ignoring their food service qualifications and it needs to end. Knows better and still did it that's a special kind of criminal. Ask a judge.

[@willowoodz]

when i lived in the states anytime before 2018- i remember my mom watched this video and immediately switched to shopping at a smaller, local grocery store. this is honestly terrifying and i don’t blame my mom for switching stores haha

[@whelimar9603]

I used to work in a bakery at a grocery store that was small and local, but growing, about 4 stores now, and at least in the bakery this is true. My manager would tell me to date pies that came in frozen (we displayed them in a refrigerated case) for 2 weeks, when I told her the box said it had 5 days, she informed me that was how many days the pie could sit at room temperature. These were cream pies...you really don't want to leave them at room temp for a few hours, let alone a day. The cakes that were made from scratch were then frozen until decorated with no FIFO system. When mixing batters and other items from scratch we often used expired dairy from the dairy department and were told its fine to use. There was so much more going on, but these are things that I often warn people about who I hear speaking about this company.

[@queenmoreau2098]

I would imagine local stores have more to lose and can't waste a dime, so they'd want to extend how long they can sell something to lessen the loss of product because they can't afford as many losses as these multi million dollar companies and corporations. :/ But on the other hand, local stores are more personal, more familiar and involved in the community so they may care about it more, and can't afford to ruin their reputation amongst the locals cause that would also result in loss. So I guess it depends.

[@thesaddestcat70]

I've worked in produce, bakery, and meat at a large chain. None of what they've shown would ever happen at my store. Fruit is washed in antimicrobial and antifungal solutions, it's then dried before being used on a cake. If a cake doesn't sell in five days it's frozen to preserve it till the local food bank can pick it up. If meat needs to be repackaged it retains it's original use by date. Ground beef is the fastest selling item in the meat department and it is only given one day to sell before being donated. There's little incentive to break company policy since we get payed the same amount no mater how profitable the week is. I suspect they would be more inclined to find creative ways of extending the life of their products at a smaller store.

[@bovinityleak2066]

Are there really any “small” grocery stores in the states? Ive never seen an option. If there ate any they are few and veery far between.

[@teferi456]

@@bovinityleak2066 Small is relative to the big chain stores. There are smaller chains and independent stores. Definitely a lot of small ethnic grocery stores too, especially in larger cities.

[@JackTheSt_Ripper]

No wonder why our strawberries spoil so damn fast....

[@princessbanana4625]

Your probably keeping them in unideal conditions. Keep in mind they are sold at peak ripeness so it doesn't take long for them to go past that either.

[@JackTheSt_Ripper]

@@princessbanana4625 I know. They tend to go bad rather quick just after 3-4 days. Unless you keep them cold they can stay longer

[@gossman75]

Just send it to the grocery store. We'll sell it to someone else! LOL

[@pinklungs420]

Store them in a glass jar like a mason jar. They last forever

[@donnab0518]

This. This right here - is journalism.

[@Suisfonia]

Yup, the main stream media in my country could learn a thing or two from these guys.

[@Brindlebrother]

ya mean GERMalism

[@evakatarina5590]

Tarskybull Beme hahahah

[@tribequest9]

Actually it's not, it's a lot of smoke and mirrors and you were taken for a ride. By the way I've got some ocean front property to sell in Arizona.......

[@ajpc66]

Which is also becoming quite rare these days. Last year here in portugal on the public tv network, at 8:00h pm the news started with this: "Portuguese scientists found a way to prevent aging". This is just one of the many things why I usually don't listen to the news on tv anymore and if I do is because my mother turns the tv on. As I said before on other posts it's pretty normal human behaviour, It's just what people do: 2Tim 3:1-5.

[@peggyhijerry8749]

For over 25 years my brother has worked as a meat manager, at a well-known grocery store. When you see a thinly sliced cut steak on sale or not more than likely they’ve cut the moldy/brown part off and repackaged ,& put it back out!😝

[@michaelvoight7738]

And for 25 years he reported it to you, not to upper level management, the FDA, tv news, etc?

[@ThePinkBinks]

If it was essentially being air dried then it wouldn’t be dangerous. Mould is meant to be on dry cured meat. Don’t rely on that though. If it’s not the right mould you’ll be in trouble.

[@bout3fiddy]

I worked on a Kroger bakery for years and they were actually good with best by dates. We did cut cakes down, but they always received the same best by as the original cake they came from. Fruit tarts were trashed if going bad, and the meat department manager was strict in making sure everything was sanitary and by the book. The pay and work ethic sucked though.

[@pam8962]

😆 yes I agree with you about Kroger

[@2Dcmbr7]

are you sure that Kroger, as a brand has never deliberately adulterated their products?

[@petertremblay3725]

We live on a planet of crooks literally! The lawyer, the dentist, the politician, the banker and even the grocery store so i think we should rename our planet to Crooksland!

[@gelb.8705]

This is one of the coolest and TRUE comment. It is still war and liars around us wearing nice clothes .

[@Pmalhotra225]

Agree 100 percent!

[@tenderplacebo]

@@willoughby1888 Why would you turn it into the postal service? Why not to the bank itself?

[@paulerrett6641]

This out rage is me

[@karenbrandwein4759]

You said it! I've been screaming it.

[@Thinkbeforeyoureply]

Y'know, what's so shocking is that the company bosses who create this situation, are also the same bosses that would get customers arrested for shoplifting. What these arsehole's are doing is way worse. No, I'm not defending theft. I'm saying it's the same thing, except a shoplifter doesn't pretend they're an honest businessperson.

[@gentarofourze]

Whilst not directly the same I remember when I had my apartment burgled (even stole cutlery, underwear, mouldy bread) police came to my door and said nothing can be done despite footprints on wall, dirty hand and fingerprints and KNOWING who the robbers were as they were squatting next door and well known to the police, a few weeks later I was in supermarket the same police were arresting a teenage boy who stole a 20p bottle of soda (thats like quarter to Americans) saying they cant let even a small crime slide!

[@mustaqahmed9812]

Thinkbeforeyoureply , yes you are absolutely right. My employer doing that and give a big lecture to the thief that GOD is watching them. What a hypocrite.

[@bratbabyp9370]

Women sticking rotteN meats up their skirts😨

[@chenks54]

If you're talking about the UK, it's because of the cuts to the police force - they will only pursue criminals where they know they can get a quick result with the minimum of paperwork!

[@amam3527]

@@gentarofourze SMH

[@MaikaSan2077]

I worked at a grocery store for 2 years in multiple departments and they've always been strict about the dates. The only time the dates are wrong is because of human error. So I guess it depends on the company and local mangers.

[@AppleSauceGamingChannel]

Should the cows be worried that their grass is expired too?!

[@deanronson6331]

@@AppleSauceGamingChannel You're a de$p!cable human being - probably a trumpoid, always on the side of big business fraudsters.

[@markfox1545]

Mangers?

[@jessica33313]

This channel is a blessing. and I watch this from America which I know for a fact they do the same thing!! Keep it up!!

[@oneofthemasses6831]

It's very disgusting and enraging. These so called bosses should be forced to eat that moldy fruit. 😠

[@susanpendell4215]

And rotting meat, don't forget.

[@deborahmckinney808]

Kroger's here in USA required worker to cut up moldy fruit for the fruit tray. Eye witness

[@lynnespringer1513]

@@deborahmckinney808 Thanks for the info. I served fruit recently and we decided to cut our own fruit because it was cheaper. Now I can see that we were probably healthier for doing that. Cut and eaten on the same day.

[@boofuzzie]

I'm sure they take home beautiful fresh food to there families because they are not going to feed there children mold rotten smelly food . So they dont care if our babies get sick from eating poison..

[@tinninfran9425]

Hmmm. If you can't smell and see the rot, you don't need to be eating

[@lemonmay3445]

They concealed her identity really well, considering they didn't distort her voice, her hair color, skin color, or clothes...

[@timfredrickson3889]

Or maybe they did and you fell for their trick?

[@petyasonkin6407]

If I worked with her I would have recognized who it was right away. They did a terrible job concealing her identity.

[@DopeAgario]

what store?

[@the_emmasculator]

I agree! If this were a mob type situation she'd have been wacked!

[@ukeelady]

I'd be in their face. Nice lil lawsuit there if she has any losses. On the other hand it's still available and she's had plenty of time to object.

[@StrawberryFeildsforNever]

What makes me more sad is that I’m sure most of these practices probably happen in stores that are in low income areas. So people who found out about these practices wouldn’t be able to shop anywhere else. Even if they wanted to

[@mamabear9137]

Save a lot for example

[@kalievesely3200]

I feel like it would happen anywhere

[@lynnemcdermott1922]

This was a GREAT program. I learned so much. Fantastic job!

[@James-kv6kb]

Worst production values I've seen since the internet was invented

[@birdyelke775]

The man denying that his company is not tampering with the food should be sued.

[@lorigagliano8384]

They protect him for a reason all of them just about they all deserve prosecution and to be punished for their wrong doings all we can do is pray that they will get justice

[@matthewgodwin3050]

I've got a better idea. Make him eat the food he claims is safe. See how he gets out of that one.

[@oldskoolhead0]

the man denying it probably never explicitly said tamper with dates, he doesnt need to, the shop floor managers are told cut down waste, save money else lose bonus, promotion, job etc, he likely doesnt care how targets are met, only that they are met, the shop floor managers do whatever they deem nescessary to keep bonus, promotion prospects or even just the job and the employee at the bottom just does as they are told, its basically how any big company works, its about money at any cost

[@jamesrusch2638]

put soap in all those liers mouths,then lock em up!!!@nearist jail.!!!!.

[@pepper5209]

More than that he should be removed from his position and made an example of. Just like they do to people for crimes in court, he is allowing serious illness to spread and does not give a dam.

[@Linda-9037]

Stores should freeze meats the day before the experation date is up and sell them frozen at a slight discount instead of potentially making customers sick. Alot of people freeze meats as soon as they get home anyway.

[@nv7287]

They want more profit, so they marinate them... Investors make more money. To make them less focus on profit would require that they are possibly public owned as cooperatives with farms?

[@mimiso2522]

Our stores do freeze close date meats and donate them to our food pantry. Nobody has ever gotten sick from that meat. Plus the stores get a tax write off. We also get bruised fruit and vegetables. I did not like this story because it is deceptive. As for the bakery, they are right. One store here was caught changing labels on expensive cakes instead of freezing them.

[@Syrnian]

Properly cook your meat and you will not get sick. Also the date is a best by date. Not a bad on date.

[@129jasper1]

@@Syrnian Yes if you cook it til it's carbon it will be safe, but they are claiming that the meat is already bad or near bad when the stores re-label it.

[@rutituti678]

@@129jasper1 🤣.. it's not funny but I love your response

[@tobidobidu1129]

Behavior like this varies from company to company. I worked at 2 cafés in my student-life. The first one we were told to be VERY safe about expiration dates and "best before" labeling. We even got the allowance of our boss to throw anything out we had doubts about if it was still good. The second place I worked on, mainly sold cake. I worked sparcely whenever Uni allowed it. But it was quite disturbing to return to my shift after 2 weeks of study, just to find the very same cake in the display I left there in my past shift. I always threw it away if that happened, and just told my boss it sold out when he asked where it went. I didn't care much if he found out and fired me. It was just to get some cash on the side. My life wasn't depending on this job. But I'd much rather get fired than potentionally harming the customers that I serve.

[@pennyk1943]

I’ve worked for a famous grocery store in the US, in the bakery department and what this young lady said is all true. Pies that had expired were cut in half and re baked as cobbler. I bought a lot of baked goods from there but only the frozen ones and in the original form. Of course, I knew which ones during my shift. When the store was bought by Wall Street corporation , at night all the baked goods in the self serve cases were repackaged and dated for sale ( yeah, after some nasty customers would touch with their bare hands). I now bake my own stuff. Million recipes on you tube. I also don’t suggest you buy already cut fruit and vegetables, especially fruit, don’t be lazy, a few minutes and you’re safe.

[@adriennebolles6435]

Listen to this! I worked with poor elderly as their care giver for "In home Support Services". I took them grocery shopping at Safeway. Jan my elderly lady (Jan and Mike were elderly very disabled couple) she told me always look at what is in the "Manager's special bin". The prices were awesome and everything was close to date, frequently grey brown . But having worked in food I didn't flinch. One day I shopped for self, saw a young butcher pick up trays of meat that had past date. (seniors shop early morning so I did) the dates had past by days. The meat was grey brown and even moldy. I decided to ignore the Manager's special bin. Came back thinking about informing them of what they "overlooked" the young guy printed out new dates. So if today is July 8th meat looked bad and had July 6 date. Then he printed and posted dates 2 days later, such as best before July 10th. Both dated stickers were on the meat. Old people with diminished cognitive function due to mental illness and dementia can't out fox the store. Morally wrong and dangerous. But here in the US we like our poor to be very very poor. So of course folks living on benefits are going to buy it. They think they can;t afford todays prices. Vicious cycle.

[@ingridblohm-hyde805]

OMG!!! If anyone sees this or works at a place that allows this, it is their moral obligation to report it to the authorities. I know that here in the US the penalties are real. I would imagine this kind of sleazy behaviour happens a lot at places like Walmart, Krogers, Safeway, and those large chains that only have one goal - profit!

[@jameswarfield4152]

Report the store to your county or state Health Department. I don't know a health department that would not look into this and ensure such practice stops.

[@arnowisp6244]

@@ingridblohm-hyde805 Unlikely for those stores given how lawsuits will come especially when they are THAT well known.

[@m.mickeypayne9811]

There was a store in South Florida called Foodway. High prices as it was the only grocery store in town. Green moldy meat, and if it looked fresh, certainly didn't taste that way, finally the store operation was turned into the county health inspector. After that, people drove 20 miles to Walmart just to get decent fresh meat. Finally, store closed, when a Dollar General Market, opened up across the street.

[@silversuffer9590]

Adrienne Bolles -it has to be the same here in the UK probably the world don't forget it's all about MONEY

[@anthonyvalles4386]

I used to be a meat clerk/butcher at TOP VALU MARKETS , and at NORTHGATE SUPERMARKETS both in LONG BEACH and marinated meat is garbage. old meat with marinate and sold for more. What truly disgusted me the most was the CHORIZO made there. it's all expired smelly pork , corn dogs with the bread , expired sausage links , expired pork and chicken from the hot foods section , rotten HAM , mixed with "adobo" paste and food colouring , grounded 2 times and into the casings .... I told the store manager and had my hours cut , till I finally told them I quit. I've told everyone I know never to buy marinated meats and specially the CHORIZO

[@keeptrying_not2late2change]

Anthony Valles Thank you!

[@djregina6897]

I used to be a fish department clerk in Montreal while in college and we would do the same thing with fish. Marinated meats/fish are definitely something to stay away from.

[@mafawcett7548]

Anthony Valles that's disgusting yuckkkkkkkk !!!! I am vegan and proud to be vegan I would never go back industry and stores are disgusting..

[@joechestano3358]

My girl & I are both vegetarians & of course we get the usual mockery for being so but we don't care were a lot healthier for it.

[@brooklynjones2633]

I worked in the HEB seafood department and helped in the bakery. We NEVER messed with sale by dates! That’s crazy! Anything marinated was made that day or the day before. I am so glad they took it seriously.

[@paullie1963]

Have to wonder how old that meat 50% off is. You know the "Cook tonight, or freeze" stuff.

[@bg147]

When the ground beef is brown under the surface, I wonder if someone tried to hide it by remolding the meat.

[@kevinroberts7521]

I was an asst. manager in a meat department, we would never do this, I have morals and integrity and the only way to make a profit is to be aware of the best before dates and mark down products at least a week before they expire. If someone in my department did something like this they would not be working for me. Even my manager wanted to do date altering and I raised a stink and took all the products and threw them out, cost the department hundreds of dollars, but I would not stand for that or allow anyone to do it not even my boss! I know my customers knew that they could trust me and that is what I look for when I go shopping, get to know your butcher!

[@D33Lux]

Wow! Bless you.

[@bdavidson3426]

One-in-million Thank you!

[@robertawestbrooks9531]

Honesty is the best policy:)

[@m.mickeypayne9811]

Even though this was published in 2015, these practices in supermarket and bakeries, has been going on since at least the 1970's .

[@timbing5731]

B

[@thinkingimpaired5663]

Politicians goal is to poison the health compromised and elderly to cut social security costs. The Politicians won't pass any laws for food safety for the less fortunate because politicians always can afford the best quality food. Existing laws are treated like general rules in the United States.

[@stardream5907]

The best way to understand a business mind set put $10 in the bin at home and throw it out, if that doesn’t bother you then buy a food based business

[@romanbukins6527]

People been adding Borax to milk since the 19th century to mask the taste...

[@user-px8ym2fi8x]

.00000

[@robertlloydlincolnrobertskoy]

Sainsbury's store and Tesco's stores have done plenty of these practices in Leicester city UK. Film me visiting shops in Leicester, Leicestershire,etc, anytime you are ready.

[@distantsanity030]

I worked in the grocery business half my life. While I did not put up with this behavior and horrible practices in my department, there were plenty who did. Hearing about people who would get caught extending dates or tampering made me only tighten the reigns harder on my crew. Food safety was the only thing that mattered in my department. The fact that some people have no integrity and couldn’t care less about making someone sick is just insane.

[@chaplaintaylor2327]

O M G😮

[@zzulm]

I have worked in a deli and a fast food restaurant and when there is poor management there is poor quality.

[@bluerazzbery]

it's fun seeing this now. I work in a supermarket preparing food, and have been fighting against my management on this issue, which they keep pretending doesn't exist. I was told that proving there is re-dating is 'a waste of company time and (I) might be fired if (I) continue this behavior."

[@gaylebrady2838]

Because they figure odds are you wont sue them. You'll just go get another job. I worked in the grocery business for years. They really don't value their employees anymore than they value their customers. Like he said it's ALL about profit. And you are replaceable! 😳

[@nickacelvn]

If I was you I would video and document everything and "Fire them"

[@Teestar519]

Yes record before u let them know ur on to them 💯🤢🤢

[@karenmorris2239]

I would secretly film I’m doing this and then I would take it to the news stations

[@jeffreymarissa6591]

@@gaylebrady2838 ww

[@lucy2014]

Fortunately, I shop at a grocery store that I totally trust. Management is very strict and they have a large open meat department where you can see the meat being prepared and packaged. If a meat in the meat counter that is 3 or 4 days from the sell by date, a red sticker is put on it that says "reduced for quick sale". It's still good, but you know it needs to be used right away. I never buy pre-packaged meats like Kroger and Wal-Mart sell. I was a Dept Manager at Wal-Mart about a year just because I was bored and thought going back to work after years of staying home might be fun (it wasn't so I'm back at home). I know for a fact their meats are injected with something before they're shipped so they look nice and fresh when they arrive at the store. You have no idea how fresh that meat really is because it's been chemically engineered to look fresh. Kroger meats are mostly all pre-packaged also. I've been shopping at my local Ingles for 20 years and refuse to go anywhere else because I know exactly how they operate. I know I'm getting good quality from a trustworthy store.

[@evadeanu1]

Unbelievable that this is happening in Canada. Shame on the stores for their greediness. Thanks Marketplace!

[@lorriechacon2731]

Just bought some red meat, took right home and opened it up to find it brown and smelly in the middle, I took it back, they said there was "Nothing wrong with it and it must have been the Garlic they put into it" I said "Now you are putting GARLIC into the red meats" and all the customers jaws just dropped.

[@sachadee.6104]

wow. That's crazy. (unless the label mentioned ALL the ingredients)

[@KOZMOuvBORG]

A customer or someone dear to them could have an allergy

[@danielhughes396]

Aww snap

[@thebearybestvirals2214]

Good job

[@MikesGarageReviews]

I would’ve crammed it right in their face.

[@AlexandarValerian]

Oh hey there, I am binge watching these, you?

[@mirageinthedesert5448]

Alexandar Valerian yup

[@stephanierodriguez3362]

same . Farmers market is my fav lol

[@mygorgeousmedia]

Alexandar Valerian yaaaasss!💯

[@georgettesebastiao6981]

Mee too. 😂😂

[@Pattys1967]

i am also,this scares the crap out of me and now i will never ever feel the same way about reduced bread,cookies meat especially omg im done buying prepared food thats for sure,im so glad i found this video

[@mistie8908]

Thank you again for another great video. You have definitely become one of my favourite sights .

[@mistie8908]

I worked at Burns foods years ago and after Christmas when hams were returned from grocery stores with mold on them we would wash them off with vinegar and water, repackage them and send them back to stores. When l questioned what they were doing was told to do my job.

[@matthew4482]

Corruption is everywhere. We seriously need to reform the WORLD.

[@aakk009]

Matthew Shapiro My good friend, it’s coming through the name of Jesus Christ!❤️ blessings to you.

[@johnbeer5242]

Matthew Noneyabusiness yes and make it flat again😁

[@dennisadmiraal3415]

BROTHER YOU COULD NOT BE MORE CORRECT, YOU'VE GOT TO WATCH WHAT YOU CONSUME ESPECIALLY CHICKEN,AND FRUIT CAKES ,LUNCH MEAT ...OH WATCH YOUR BAKERY PRODUCTS TOO PEACE & LOVE AND UNDERSTANDING ?

[@nizaaguero8783]

This is because money and wealth comes before people health.

[@thewhitefalcon8539]

You/we need to punish corruption and it will stop happening. I don't think any major reforms are needed. Just small reforms i.e. punish people who do things wrong! And everything needs more transparency so corruption can be noticed.

[@Syrnian]

Meat that is not ground is not a problem so long as it is cooked properly. The tart is less expensive than the fruit that sits on it. Why retop it? "It's furry already." I love this guy. Do not eat bread with mold. What you see and cut off is just the fruiting body. By the time the fruiting body has appeared, mycelium (that you cannot see) has grown throughout most if not all of the bread. Toss it.

[@maryrackauskis759]

Thank you for explainig this!!!!!

[@markymarkdays]

I’m glad we have HEB in Texas . I’m a refrigeration tech that worked at many HEBS and they where always on point with temperatures and dates on all their products

[@linebrunelle1004]

Haha. awwwww. so cute

[@666hobart]

We simply use food coloring here in the states with the beef. I remember finding a box of that fondue mix in the mid 80's lol

[@NeilRoy]

Suddenly, my junk food like chips seems like the healthier choice.

[@alyssarobertsworld]

Neil Roy right! Processed food at least stays in the container

[@bigbobbybob6810]

Lol

[@whatsgood5446]

You're soooo funny... i Agree Are u in Ontario

[@NeilRoy]

@Tempa T Awesome! I love chicken soup, planning to have some tomorrow in fact. ;) Any excuse to have more is good in my books. Though I rarely get a cold anymore (I don't remember the last one) or any virus type of illness since I stopped eating unclean meats like pork. I strongly feel they cause a lot of problems and most likely contribute to weakening out immune systems. Since I stopped eating them, I also stopped getting the flu and colds for the most part.

[@NeilRoy]

@Tempa T Nice! I use fresh ground black pepper all the time. The kind that comes in a bottle with a built in pepper grinder so I grind it myself (much better flavour). Though I still question the theory that cholesterol causes heart attacks, given the fact that it is a natural substance created by the body and used for things like repairing arteries and such. The whole idea of it causing heart attacks was rejected by the AMA when it was first proposed. And more recently I heard a heart surgeon state that he seen more people with low cholesterol coming in with heart problems than those with high cholesterol. This fact surprised him causing him to look into the history of cholesterol and the idea that it causes heart attacks and that is when t he guy discovered the idea was rejected in the past when it was first proposed. Cholesterol lowering medications have been found to make no difference in your life span when examined in studies and they cause big problems in your legs, with weakening and other issues. My dad has high cholesterol, he was on Lipitor (a statin) for a while, but it weakened his legs so he went off of it. He just turned 79. So... I wouldn't worry so much about that. There is more evidence that SUGAR is a major cause of heart attacks. In fact, a secret document was found in a sugar company's records (it went bankrupt) where they KNEW about this as far back as the '70s. Excess, processed sugar causes diabetes, heart attacks and is even suspected to cause Alzheimer's disease.

[@herculesgoldenretriever8188]

Let's eat greens from our back yard garden. 🥰🙌🥰

[@Roylinns]

but...then how will we know when its expired?

[@SquarerFiveStudios]

It will usually last between 14 to 30 days before going mouldy.

[@TheBlueThird]

I couldn't agree more. I try to grow most of my vegetables that I eat.

[@HOOTECAT]

just found you and LOVE your stuff! thanks and keep going!!!

[@mariaomar7024]

Marketplace !! Very informative and true to their words 🙏❤️thanks for the info 🙏🙏🙏

[@zivaandzeusshenanigans1113]

I was a meat cutter for 22 yrs and worked at 5 different stores,not once did any of those stores mess with the best by use date.if it was expired then it got thrown away,as a matter of fact we ground fresh hamburger daily..when I came in every morning all of the hamburger from the day before was thrown out.

[@suilles]

kinda sad they get thrown in the thrash after a day. meat dont go bad after a day so kinda a waste.

[@rajo741]

You were fortunate to work for proper grocers. I know first hand how diluted bleach washes were store policy for meat gone off. And yes they were repackaged and put up for sale.

[@ninjai5527]

i used to work at a small independent grocery and my manager told us we were allowed to extend the best by date by a week, we would also use the "reddening" technique. We never extended best date by more than a week. I now work at a much larger grocer, which doesn't do that thankfully. I think some of the smaller stores really rely on dirty techniques to reduce their waste costs unfortunately.

[@bleurose8380]

That is the way my work does it.

[@valentinefeatherstone6931]

That's how the store I work at is. I'm a grocery manager and I go up and down the aisles checking dates on products! I take it very seriously! I know if I was a customer I would be pissed I bought something expired. Plus once it expires, we most of the time, lose $$ so we mark it down to hopefully get it sold so we don't have to throw out.

[@MsSawatzky22]

And here we are, in 2019 - and it's still happening!

[@geochaplin6074]

Look at the lowlife running these places. They come from third world countries and killing people is secondnature to these lowlife.

[@kenjidev576]

@Voltaic Fire none. Else there'd be an unavoidable lawsuit and these places would go down one after the other.

[@mistikthikness6327]

@@kenjidev576 no they wouldn't the neighbour next door will but for smoking weed or raising his voice but these parasites will never see punishment it's worse than this video this is just scratching the surface

[@ZeusHelios]

That's because some people don't care so long as they make money.

[@lalili1358]

@@geochaplin6074 It's not there fault... the higher ups pay them to do their bidding.... they're following orders like sheeple. Forgive them for they don't know what they do.

[@heartforchrist7004]

I can say as a former bakery worker at publix when closing the bakery once the best by date came around i had to scann everything and place it in a cart than it was taking out of the bakery. So glad our piblix was clean and honest.

[@steveroberson1896]

Recently I worked @ a local soup kitchen & was instructed to serve the public food that was sometimes as much as 5 years past the expiration dates !

[@dianareynolds914]

And people talk about hygiene issues and corruption in developing countries? I eat far better quality and organic food consisting of fruits, veg, and meat purchased from local small farmers or directly from the butcher, who I actually witness butchering the cut of mutton, beef or pork I have requested when I travel in the Caribbean. And when I purchase fish from the fish market, it has, on more than one occasion still been alive when being off loaded from the boat. I'm just floored and disheartened by what I have just seen. It seriously makes me question the so called "superior" quality of life we "think" we are living in supposedly "first world/developed" countries. Thank you for enlightening us!

[@RedWhirlWind]

the problem with developed countries is the political corruption aka capitalism, where profits are more important than citizen. while developing countries also have political corruption and violence, they also have a lack of any safety nets for their citizens, etc. the benefits of living near water and having a good growing climate are just geographic benefits, which don’t really have much to do with developed vs developing countries. while resources are valuable, if you are not a developed nation, you will most likely get taken advantaged by other developed countries, this is also due to a capitalistic mentality.

[@mercymfula9728]

Point

[@easystreet1888]

You like to watch the animals slaughtered do you simply watch the individual piece cut by the butcher?

[@TheMilitantHorse]

Because Venezuela is a capitalist dystopia. Oh wait. It's not.

[@saraco501]

i work at Walmart in the bakery and deli, best by dates are taken very seriously. Food isn't even to be donated after the best by date, it is disposed of and taken to the organic bin which is then delivered to a pig farm

[@silversuffer9590]

saraco501 @ Then WALMART =ASDA in the uk buy and SELL the PORK . And the general public EAT it. (Great).

[@amam3527]

what walmart you work at thats where i will shop from now on lol

[@pegasus514]

i think i am done w/pork. disgusting.

[@Roylinns]

THINK OF THE -CHILDREN- PIGS!

[@daschundloverable]

yeah, the missing ones.

[@joseluisperezjr3285]

I've always worked in the retail business 1st in a store and took dates extremely serious. I still work for a food company now and we also take dates serious , so much that your job depends on it. If you get caught bad dates you can potentially get fired

[@victoriaballon281]

Thank you for this story I'm physically and emotionally sick right now now that I'm a dialysis patient the food played into my illness

[@BobRooney290]

i'm so sorry for your suffering. i hope you make it out of that rut. i'm trying hard to move more and more towards a plant based diet. i feel like moldy fruit and far safer than bacteria infected meat.

[@Sarge92]

why do they keep hiding the stores identity if a stores doing this call them out instead they make every store sound guilty

[@CherryPauper]

Lawsuits

[@NDK0]

Oh America.. Land of the... Lawsuits.

[@SeanDaRyan]

this is Canada. she was at yonge and dundas in Toronto

[@Sarge92]

But if anything there opening themselves to a lawsuit from stores that don't do this, cause now there telling a innocent stores Customers don't buy there product cause they tamper with it when they could be doing nothing of the sort .

[@Sarge92]

so theyd rather damage the reputation and buisness of the entire industry than call out that one store my point is instead of saying dont buy this from this one store there saying dont buy this from any store essentially taring the entire grocery industry with the same brush

[@danielmogylevsky5587]

That was the worst censorship I have ever seen in order to protect someone's identity

[@TheRafark]

It was funny lmao

[@PieRow]

POPPY SEED bruh 💀

[@flip2724]

Haha

[@fatoubintousallah1100]

Lol I thought as much

[@christinab812]

Pricilla Shivvers-Triplett What’s wrong boomer, afraid you won’t be able to sell poison to innocent people anymore?🤣

[@lindastevens6861]

Over 20 years ago I had a temp job in Toronto where we changed the due date on liquid soaps shampoos and creams.

[@pria7538]

I love segments like these. They have little to no effect in change. People like being ignorant even if it causes them their health. You should not purchase meat from chain stores. Almost never.

[@kimberleerivera3334]

And they do!

[@anesu4548]

Im going to start driving to farms and buy the food myself.

[@shirleyrombough8173]

Anesu- That is a good idea. But if you live within an urban area it may be hard to find farms that sell directly to the consumer.

[@lynnleigha580]

When in doubt, throw it out

[@RideAcrossTheRiver]

Also, don't buy fresh what you can't finish

[@coryd2668]

I’m in the USA, It would be great to know what stores are infamous for this kind of deception! Is there a place/bureau that carries ratings or complaints?

[@antonisNWC]

17:48 In Greece in the biggest supermarket chain where i use to work they wash the smelly or old salad's put a new label and put them on the self again .

[@kenmartin2418]

In my younger days I worked in a grocery meat department. Same practice as depicted in this presentation. The "fresh" seafood department was part of the meat department. Fish that was going bad and starting to smell would be rinsed in a light cream like half and half, then put back on display. This video was interesting to watch what was most likely going on in other departments. In later years I worked as a consultant in many industrial facilities. Sometimes at food processing plants. Things going on at that level too.

[@Garth2011]

Sad that all of those employees will complete their work day and say nothing and do nothing to keep a low paying job.

[@janeyd5280]

@@vickikaravas8774 it would need to be anonymously.

[@janeyd5280]

@@Garth2011 they will have a rent to pay, maybe a few kids who need to eat and be clothed.x

[@FreeAgentDaBest]

Isn't this criminal what they are doing with the meat?

[@143mailliw]

+FreeAgentDaBest only in the us

[@katharina...]

+William Whitt -- 18:20

[@josephparker646]

It is in the USA State of California. Health inspectors do frequently inspect our stores.

[@amysmosquito]

sounds like the answer is "depends on who you ask" lol... it should be really :|

[@josephparker646]

It depends on regional laws. California health and safety laws tend to be much stronger than Canada.

[@davidarundel6187]

This confirms my intuition. Supermarket baked goods , deli products, & highly processed foods are looked at, and passed. Meat comes from a real butcher or is fresh vacum sealed from a reputable food wholesale that supplys resteraunts & others in the catering trade. I've recently gone off, fish & fries which were a sometimes treat. Other fast foods, I've gone thru the retailers & now have found a small Italian owned reseruant which makes the nicest Pizzas in town - fresh ones, & the place seats 20 & is popular. Even the fruit & vege at the supermarkets are given space to stay on the shelf, while the farmers market is used.

[@alk3myst]

This is sad. I walked out of jobs where the boss told me to do something wrong. I had a support net, not everyone has that :(. Tampering with food is the worst someone can do for a profit.

[@rvpstudioscanada3991]

I would like Marketplace to do a followup on these grocery chains.

[@rvpstudioscanada3991]

Marketplace... PLEASE *INVESTIGATE* Tangerine Bank. They are *HOLDING ON* TO *OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY* for " *Security* Reasons" . Including *MINE!!!!* Look into Trustpilot Reviews!!!! *ONLY* 1/5 stars. Please *investigate!!!!*

[@stevethea5250]

@@rvpstudioscanada3991 she should define hard and soft FOODS for the consumers 17:58 🤦

[@pamelat5440]

Well, this is probably the 10th video I watch of Marketplace and trust me I’m questioning everything 😂

[@sandrascott345]

In the early 2000s, I actually saw a Schnuck's (Edwardsville Illinois) meat department worker change the freshness date on fish in the fridge. I never bought packaged fish again!

[@clarencechoy2382]

Worked parttime at a supermarket seafood department last year and was shocked to discover things that were all mentioned in this video!

[@OOberization]

Completely changed my shopping behaviours.

[@CHRISTisKing197]

Imagine a world where the FDA actually did their job

[@TDotLalo]

Oh I'm sure it happens in the US too, but this particular video is all Canada.

[@jw4673]

FDA?

[@ziffy8532]

@@jw4673 Food and Drug Administration

[@stephaniehowe0973]

Its Canada

[@jessicah3450]

Well with Trump doing away with all of the government regulations.... Read The Jungle by Upton Sinclair, it won't be long until we go back to this.

[@wendiannejohnson399]

Wow 😳 😲 WOW. I definitely learned alot .. few things I already knew and was following a best health guide to letter

[@joannelivingstone6656]

Bought a packet of cherry tomatoes yesterday at Tesco. It had an expiration date of July 15 (5 days time) got home and started to make a gorgeous fish salad and I ate one as I was preparing the salad and I immediately felt nauseous and sick, so I cut open one of the tomatoes and to my horror it was as black as coal inside, threw my appetite right out the window. I think that supermarkets get the food they don't sell, freeze and then repackage them. Now on I'm buying from the local greengrocer. Valuable lesson learnt.

[@keanrdbropedersen1487]

I mean Tesco doesnt even make the labels, do they?

[@1948tc]

From now on I will be looking at my meats more carefully and I quit my bakery items at my local Walmart and H.E.B. stores here in Texas ! I know more of their seasoning tricks and marinating tricks ! So they lost me on those foods !

[@angiemartinez5014]

same here!

[@kellyrabe5180]

I live on the middle west in the USA my mom would go to the other side of town to go shopping we had a piggie wiggle just 5 mins away but the food did seem right that was back in the 90s

[@MyMusicII]

I worked as a Deli Mgr at a few different grocery stores over 13+ yrs. The stories I could tell, lol! The owners/corporate are desperate to save $$ and hate to throw anything away. Most vendors give credit for outdated items, so stores are actually getting paid twice for the same product sometimes.

[@paulfleming715]

My Music Yes, I believe it..

[@d5v2l8]

The guy who said shut the front door made the video for me lmao!

[@leebowers2941]

I shop at Keoger in Arlington Tn. The meat will turn dark before the best buy date. I have had steak be black on the bottom a day before the BB4. I always take it back. My father was a butcher for A&P for over 60 years. I know meat. Meat that is a little dark used to be called aged. Raymond (my dad) would bring that meat home for free. we would eat it that day. Now you don't know how long it has been "aging".

[@kikenna]

This kind of makes me want to stop eating meats and anything from a bakery. Then again, I'm sure the tampering could also apply to fruits and other things as well.

[@Natalia-cb5gf]

Agreed

[@Merc89PSU]

The video talks about it being done to fruits too.

[@rush2124u2]

But have you seen the factory;s were processed food is made. makes me sick how they do it and the chemicals inside

[@marksmyth3223]

Get a good butcher; and bake your own cakes/treats.:)

[@therachealg]

I used to work at Giant Eagle in the meat department and we were very strict when it came to expiration dates. If the meat expired that day, we would mark it completely down to like 75% off and put it in a special section in the cooler and if it didn't get sold we would throw all that product away. We never messed with expiration dates. Now when it comes to Wal-Mart and other supermarkets, I'm not sure what they do.

[@jayit6851]

"They're aren't doing anything wrong" "But we have mounds of evidence that they are" "Nope, that's wrong"

[@y0y4y0]

I'm amazed by this. When I worked as a fruit seller (mostly in small markets, but in 2012 I worked at one of Condis supermarkets), EVERYTHING that was past-due was destroyed: if something was expiring that same day, then the cats could have it, but if it expired the day before it was not even for the stray cats. In the supermarket they were REALLY focused on avoiding anything out of shelf life to even be in the shops and they pushed for it from the beginning.

[@bettyjones1823]

I use to get sick from eating ground beef. I read this article and told the man at the meat department if the meat was not fresh I will get sick because some of the meat was red and some gray before. He immediately took the meat from me, went in the back and ground up fresh meat for me. Now when I buy ground beef I talk to the meat manager first to get fresh. I no longer get sick.

[@desireemahone7345]

See I knew I wasn’t buggin when half my ground beef was brown and the other half red

[@sandman503]

Do some research, beef turns brown when it is deprived of oxygen. It had nothing to do with it going bad

[@woodulike2know391]

Usually theyre not lazy enough to add the red dye first. But aparently your deli worker was really lazy that day.

[@jaeweber1]

@Piatequila What world do you live in?

[@ioanlightoller4934]

I've found that, too. I don't bur factory meat any more and no longer have that problem.

[@hydrolito]

Red often caused by food coloring.

[@blueberrysavers3547]

Best before: food may be safe to eat but with low quality (no risk of food poisoning) Use by: food may be unsafe to eat as there is a risk of food poisoning

[@cynthiam4089]

But that best before might have already been tarnished and re-done

[@mistikthikness6327]

Freeze your meat when you get home Ive still got scotch fillet from last year in the freezer still good just don't freeze defrost than re freeze again

[@Jakecooks]

a practice that will not go away unless severe consequences are done and random testing of markets. I only ever worked at one restaurant that would try to do these types of things. If there is doubt then throw it out. That was always my personal motto no matter the loss. I have never had food poisoning and plan to keep it that way.

[@valeriedocherty8988]

In the UK we have best before for long lasting goods like pasta and rice, but for perishables the label states use by, not sell by. In supermarkets, when perishables approach the use by date, they are reduced in price to achieve a quick sale and prevent food wastage. I save a lot of money by judicious shopping. Great for those of us who have a limited income.

[@NondescriptMammal]

I remember when these were labeled as "Sell by" instead of "Best before", and the subtle change in wording seems significant to me.

[@danluckins4071]

yeah "best before" sounds like "still ok after" whereas "Sell by" sounds like "dont sell after"

[@mattcrandall5045]

"Sell by" tells me either buy or freeze by that date. "Best by", for me at least, implies that after that date, it's all downhill

[@gaylebrady2838]

Sell by leaves the store legally liable. Best before says buy it at your own risk.😲

[@mattcrandall5045]

@@gaylebrady2838 exactly. They're basically saying, "you should use it by this day, but you do you. We're not liable"

[@NondescriptMammal]

@@gaylebrady2838 I think that sums it up pretty well.

[@Sevilen7]

go to a butcher. it may cost more but it's quality and you'll be helping a small business owner.

[@connorsim9624]

I work in a meat department and the only big worry is store packaged ground meats, if its pre-packaged somewhere else it is always going to be better quality.

[@interracial2564]

to make out of my sickness ?

[@mirooovuujjj7918]

Go to Bucher

[@passionfruitfruit]

I guess butchers do the same. They don't want to 'waste' their money too.

[@Scheater1337]

Frozen stuff is also (usually) much fresher than "fresh" stuff in supermarkets. Wether you are talking about vegetable or meat. Frozen meat can't get rotten as easily and they will pretty much always freeze it without a major delay. Or unripe fruits that ripe during the travel in boxes to be fresh in your supermarket - better to have them frozen on harvest and then transported.

[@veronicalombardi2443]

WOW ! Just shared this video with a bunch of my buddies. Heads up for all of us…..

[@mloftin6472]

Every time this scientist is on Marketplace, he shows such joy in his face when he says "fecal."

[@nicolebrown7244]

"Technically" this is premeditated, it's a crime if someone dies, yes it's that serious.

[@seedplanter7173]

What about all the vaccine related deaths? And disease? That's ok?

[@HoosierSquad1]

I subscribed to u

[@seedplanter7173]

@@HoosierSquad1 to me? or not to me? that is the question? if yes..thanks. if no...disregard message

[@kenjidev576]

There are many other indicators that make it a crime. If you can prove it that is

[@breathoffreshair7795]

SeedPlanter there are none. Do better research that isnt self confirming

[@ThePinkBinks]

My personal favorite was a butcher at a meat processing plant talking about cutting the tumors off the cancerous meat to make it look good. Tumors can be minced.

[@leonidasspyropoulos849]

Awesome video, thank you.

[@morpheusmyron4206]

I’ve always wondered about these products when I’m in the supermarket ever since. I thought I was just paranoid. But then this 😭

[@elenachang2504]

I felt the same.

[@MoneyBytesAI]

Thanks CBC, I'm never eating food again.