Drivers sue Long Island town over school bus camera violations

State law approved the video-generated tickets for drivers who wiz by buses with the stop sign arm out, but these drivers say the proof isn't legally sufficient. CBS New York's Carolyn Gusoff reports.

[@tobehonest7541]

This guy is ridiculous 🙄

[@newyorkcity76]

He have to stop. So stop

[@kobyschechter8163]

But many people are also getting slugged with incorrect tickets. People have gotten a ticket even when the bus driver gestured at them to go past the bus. They’ve also gotten tickets when the buses are at their depots and obviously there are no children at the bus depot. I can see why they have these cameras on the buses but they need to issue tickets CORRECTLY. Because they are clearly about slamming people with fines starting at $250 to raise revenue!! That is a HUGE amount of money for most people including me!! I don’t make a six figure salary. I’m an Amazon driver so I’m very prone to getting tickets. Thankfully I haven’t gotten one yet for anything but when you’re a delivery driver you’re much more likely to get tickets than other people.

[@goolag6536]

Yea, I was ticketed even though I did not pass the school bus when the stop arm was out. I was found guilty. Im not paying it.

[@RantRantJoe]

I have seen a School bus in NYC flip the 🛑 sign so he can make a left turn on a right lane...😂

[@Theworldsboro]

Probably missed the stop. Not worth T-boning a bus with kids.

[@RantRantJoe]

@@DrivingEnthusiastHighwayGeek you mush be under a rock or something. Yes, yellow school buses do break the traffic rules. They do everything a normal driver would; even run red lights..

[@railroad9000]

It is the same at a RR crossing. You are supposed to stop when the lights start flashing and remain stopped until AFTER the lights are off. I have had many horn honks but just ignore them!

[@railroad9000]

You are supposed to treat it as a STOP sign WHICH IT IS! He got caught and crying over spilled milk! Next time stop, idiot!

[@SCARYFALCON2]

NYC yellow bus drivers use that stop sign to drop off fellow co workers at the corner, 0 kids. Also they leave the stop sign 🛑 activated while talking to kids parents, long after the kid is already sitting down.

[@Theworldsboro]

And that’s ok

[@Zanarkand102]

And you still need to wait...how hard is it? The entitlement of some people especially when dealing with children's safety is insane.

[@joeblow123]

and your point is? don't run a stop sign. what part of that you don't understand?

[@thiscorrosion900]

Er, yeah, I'm trained as a driver since 1986, to always stop for a school bus that has the paddle out or is extending it, lights flashing, whatever, and wait till the boarding or activity is over, and the bus goes, or whatever. I would never pass such a bus if the paddle is out, or lights flashing, whatever. I've never gotten a ticket for such a situation, ever. I do run into situations all day long on LI though, where a school bus (mini or full size) is parked on a shoulder, or on a break, or whatever, in all kinds of situations, parking lots, but if they're not on active duty, or just sitting there, it's one thing. I'll see them stop quickly at my local Dunkins, sometimes even run in (and parked illegally, in some cases, by the way!) to get food and stuff, and then re-board the bus, usually just staff, not kids. But they sometimes do this illegally since the street right in front of the Dunkins is no parking or standing!! LOL They're supposed to bring the bus into the lot, if possible. So, sometimes the bus drivers bend the law a bit, as well. Also, I have buses that stop all morning about 3x right in front of my house for the local kids, I've seen cases wherein the bus stops to drop kids off in p.m., and, the parents are out to lunch...the driver beeps like 8 x and finally later the parents come out to collect their kids. So, you cannot assume even if the paddle is not out and flashing, or flashing for a long time, that the kids have unboarded or boarded the bus yet. If i was backing out of my driveway, I would have to just watch and wait till all is clear, because I'm A. not gonna break the law and B. for total safety concerns. Some people are just plain stupid and selfish.

[@4hw4vkGhew-dj9hs]

Donkey drivers

[@rongendron8705]

Recently, a U-tube video showed one School Bus stop, between Smithtown & Commack, NY, created 2,700 violations in one year, or $1,000,000. in revenue! Why, because it was on a major, four lane road, where the speed limit is 50 mph! Asking drivers, some 75 feet away (across 4 lanes) to 'slam on' their brakes, is the same as having children get off of a bus, in the middle of a major highway! The local speed limits & width of the road, must be taken into consideration!

[@ILIKETURTLES16]

I see all these school buses parked illegally all over the place. Who holds them accountable when school bus drivers park illegally to get something to eat? I want them all to get tickets.

[@joesir2028]

All these drivers are ridiculous! The challenge is ridiculous.

[@kobyschechter8163]

When you get an incorrect ticket that costs at least $250 you will be singing a very different tune.

[@EliChristman]

I saw the lights and stop signs, she's blind. And it's not a divided highway, stuff it.

[@Theworldsboro]

How is it so hard to just stop for a school bus?? If it takes a long time its ok! A child could be in a wheelchair for all we know! Tf!

[@kobyschechter8163]

People are getting slugged with incorrect tickets like crazy. I know someone who is trying to fight an incorrect school bus ticket in court. They sent in a request for a court date.

[@117JasR]

That's not always the case. I got a ticket for a school bus that was stopped on the curb of the northbound lanes, and I'm over four lanes, past the divider, on the other side, no where CLOSE to the bus, it wasn't even visible. Ridiculous. If I were to stop in the green light, I would've been rear-ended.

[@kobyschechter8163]

@@117JasR Did you send in a request for a court date? I know someone who also got an incorrect school bus ticket and they sent in a request for a court date.

[@Theworldsboro]

@@117JasR that’s a fairly unique situation and should be able to fight it. Most examples aren’t the case.

[@stizandelasage]

If they don't ask or check for updates on me they won't be annoyed

[@kobyschechter8163]

It’s 100% a money grab. These cameras cause nothing but confusion. People are getting slugged with incorrect tickets left and right!!

[@kobyschechter8163]

@@frescabon5784 They’re getting these tickets even when the bus driver gestures at them to go past the bus. They’re also getting tickets when there are no children on board. They need to issue these tickets CORRECTLY. Because they clearly are just about slamming people with fines starting at $250!! That’s a huge amount of money for most people, including me. I don’t make a six figure salary.

[@RCenal]

What violations You're on a public street

[@brettweisbrot6633]

These cameras are Important for the safety of the children.

[@railroad9000]

Only if children are getting on or off! No safety issues with zero children!

[@kobyschechter8163]

But many people are getting these tickets even though the bus driver waved at them to go past the bus. They’re also getting tickets when there are no children on the bus. They just want to slug people with fines starting at $250.

[@jimonthecoast3234]

Caught on video. Guilty as hell. Why would a bus stop, if no kids are on board? These drivers should have licenses revoked.

[@joeschmo622]

Oh, come on down to Maspeth and/or Middle Village. The bus comes to a stop with the sign and red flashing lights, picks up a few kids, and sometimes for a good solid minute or two it's yap-yap-yap with the mothers catching up on this or that. _"Oh, what's the big deal?"_ Really? Time it out. Sit quietly with nothing else to do, and time out even only 1min, see how you'd like to be parked behind a bus while they catch up on the latest gossip. Not to defend their actions, but it makes it almost understandable why someone would rather beat the bus vs getting stuck behind.

[@joeblow123]

don't drive. take the bus if that is too hard for you to understand

[@joeschmo622]

@@joeblow123 You must be a schoolbus driver... Figures.

[@joeblow123]

@@joeschmo622 no, I am not. but I am a decent human being that will wait a few minutes instead of running over a child. obviously, you are not in that group

[@joeschmo622]

@@joeblow123 Pure virtue signaling, and I don't believe it for a second. If *YOU* would get stuck Every Single Day, you'd do the same thing. it's easy to preach what a supposedly-good person you are to all the world...

[@andrewmartinez2726]

Which some ppl know knew bus drivers as to ppl who are in busses use to get the bus but then it is something else to the ones that are in busses as I use to walk but know that I drive it is way better different some weird ppl that drive busses as some ppl weird out here 😮.

[@trainluvr]

What the hell did you just say?

[@TermlessHGW]

​@@trainluvr bro should go back to school.

[@railroad9000]

HUH?