John Cleese: Why I left Monty Python

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@gabe_s_videos
@gabe_s_videos 7 жыл бұрын
I appreciate how Tracy Smith just lets him talk. She doesn't talk over him or interrupt him with more questions. Good journalism.
@richbuilds_com
@richbuilds_com Жыл бұрын
I missed that. Like I do with all the great interviewers: let them talk. I can highly recommend the podcast My Time Capsule for the same reason. Mainly British guests, but even if I don't know their work ever episode is enlightening. The host has been in everything, but you won't know his name. He's perfect.
@chrislyon7147
@chrislyon7147 Жыл бұрын
She does have awful body posture. It's quite distracting.
@waltrautengels816
@waltrautengels816 Жыл бұрын
Such a rare quality of an interviewer theses days!
@mendelovitch
@mendelovitch Жыл бұрын
It's edited, so we don't really know.
@VanillaLibrarian
@VanillaLibrarian Жыл бұрын
​@@mendelovitch When he's talking, it's all one shot. It would take some pretty intensive editing if she was interrupting him.
@Azeralas
@Azeralas 7 жыл бұрын
I expected this video to be 5 seconds long and just be John saying, "Well it was all a bit silly."
@neonsashimidream1075
@neonsashimidream1075 4 жыл бұрын
Unbelievably underrated comment.
@jaketno
@jaketno 3 жыл бұрын
I was hoping for something similar lol
@jimjim506
@jimjim506 3 жыл бұрын
His resignation was just him saying "and now for something completely different"
@dinoexequielcala2154
@dinoexequielcala2154 3 жыл бұрын
And that's what he kind of said, if you think
@ElvarMasson
@ElvarMasson 3 жыл бұрын
Neon Sashimi Dream - "unbelievably underrated comment" ? It's been 'liked by 164 people. What do you mean exactly ?
@bigedslobotomy
@bigedslobotomy Жыл бұрын
I liked how he OWNED his decision to leave Monty Python. He didn’t make excuses. He simply explained why he made that certain decision at that time (it seems it was mostly the time commitment, when he wanted to do other projects also).
@MouthBreatherGaming
@MouthBreatherGaming 10 күн бұрын
0:57 - Who are the two? Chapman, his main writing partner, as one? Terry Gilliam as the other?
@TrentonO3000
@TrentonO3000 10 күн бұрын
@@MouthBreatherGaming Almost certainly, gathering context from other interviews, at least one of them was Terry Jones. I would guess the other was Chapman.
@Mindvirusinternational
@Mindvirusinternational 9 күн бұрын
@@TrentonO3000 Agreed, the feuding between Jones and Cleese is well documented
@rolandofgilead43
@rolandofgilead43 7 күн бұрын
He didn’t leave completely python he left the show he still did the albums and the tours plus the films as well
@Lushfan
@Lushfan 3 жыл бұрын
One thing I like about John is that he can be serious during an interview. One pet peeve of mine is comedians who just can't turn it off during an interview and have to act out. I'm not saying he is the only one who can do it, but some can't.
@johnc3403
@johnc3403 3 жыл бұрын
yes, some can and some can't. There are some that think they can but actually can't and others that can, though they think they can't. It must be very hard for those ones in particular.
@charlie-obrien
@charlie-obrien 2 жыл бұрын
John Cleese isn't afraid to let us see John Cleese.
@JarrodFrates
@JarrodFrates Жыл бұрын
I'm a big fan of Weird Al, but he's frustrating to watch in interviews, because he uses his stage persona in so many of them. One exception was when he was on Shatner's show, and Shatner delved into some things that were clearly uncomfortable for Al, but he answered them.
@FordFourD-aka-Ford4D
@FordFourD-aka-Ford4D Жыл бұрын
You know… some comedians like Kevin Hart are just like that. It's who they are. I think it's wrong to judge them for being themselves. Like cool that John Cleese is a serious person who does funny - that's great for him. But funny people who are just naturally funny all the time and don't LIKE to "turn it off" shouldn't be judged for being who they are.
@garym6315
@garym6315 Жыл бұрын
It's often a sense of insecurity when comics and comedians resort to their on stage personas rather than giving their true self. Either insecurity or a sense of arrogance
@boataxe4605
@boataxe4605 8 жыл бұрын
Did he walk funny on the way out the door?
@Chibotgaming
@Chibotgaming 7 жыл бұрын
Boat Axe *silly, I'll call the inspector if you don't straighten up! x)
@joppadoni
@joppadoni 7 жыл бұрын
'IM OFF, LEGS UP.. AND .. OFF WE GO!' lol
@AntonyThorburn
@AntonyThorburn 7 жыл бұрын
all the freemasons do...
@whatarefriends4
@whatarefriends4 4 жыл бұрын
I bet he did!🤣😂🤣
@stephenfletcher5391
@stephenfletcher5391 4 жыл бұрын
No, the door looked funny on the way out walking
@sirplantain
@sirplantain 7 жыл бұрын
Respect to John Cleese for turning down the Knighthood he was offered; on more than one occasion I do believe. He doesn't need to be called Sir to be appreciated, he was, and still is, a man of great talent.
@avengemybreath3084
@avengemybreath3084 Жыл бұрын
If anyone offers you a knighthood, just say thank you.
@jamesgorski7551
@jamesgorski7551 Жыл бұрын
Kudos to John and rip Graham Chapman.
@rosskstar
@rosskstar Жыл бұрын
nice to know - he might have caught a whiff of what really goes on with that nasty lot
@eraserhead2063
@eraserhead2063 Жыл бұрын
@@avengemybreath3084 Shill
@BethAndrews-bw8xx
@BethAndrews-bw8xx Жыл бұрын
Which has got nothing to do with this video at all.
@525Lines
@525Lines 9 жыл бұрын
It's all good. We wouldn't have had Faulty Towers without him leaving Python.
@alexanderwingeskog758
@alexanderwingeskog758 8 жыл бұрын
Never actually new this... that he left Monty Python... and did Faulty Towers (between the movies)... I love Monty Python but Faulty Towers is a masterpiece! You learn something everyday!
@525Lines
@525Lines 8 жыл бұрын
I think it's right up there with The Dick Van Dyke Show, just a technically perfect example of a sitcom.
@jjdecani
@jjdecani 8 жыл бұрын
Just watch the last series - series 4. No Cleese.
@SometimesInnocent
@SometimesInnocent 8 жыл бұрын
FaWlty
@525Lines
@525Lines 8 жыл бұрын
Flowery tuats
@joesimon2018
@joesimon2018 8 жыл бұрын
They should have done more movies
@shoopoop21
@shoopoop21 7 жыл бұрын
They should have done at least a few. Monty Python is a great display of the groups talent. If you don't watch the rest of it, you can watch Monty Python, and have a good time. They should have done more of _that._ I do think the alcoholism is a problem though. He seems like he really wanted to prove himself, or something to that effect, and losing members killed him inside, because it made him feel like he was losing progress.
@bobforapples8665
@bobforapples8665 7 жыл бұрын
Benny Hill considered funnier than Monty Python!
@bobforapples8665
@bobforapples8665 7 жыл бұрын
Fact: Hill considered funnier than Python!
@hesch-tag
@hesch-tag 6 жыл бұрын
Bob Forapples by whom?
@PhoenixProdLLC
@PhoenixProdLLC 6 жыл бұрын
Bob Forapples No. Just...no.
@robertpolanco1973
@robertpolanco1973 8 жыл бұрын
Personally, I respect John Cleese now more than ever because he wanted to do something completely different in his life and career. I hope he had what he wanted after so many years.
@TheBushdoctor68
@TheBushdoctor68 8 жыл бұрын
and now... something completely different.
@mrmogensen
@mrmogensen 8 жыл бұрын
thank you.
@heavymetalrybakina
@heavymetalrybakina 8 жыл бұрын
He was definitely exaggerating about the Pythons repeating themselves already in the 2nd series. Considering how generic so much comedy was and still is, they were ground-breaking even in the 4th season. Cleese is a bit full of it, if I may say so respectfully.
@thebrazilianatlantis165
@thebrazilianatlantis165 8 жыл бұрын
He's not full of it, he says he was a "purist" back then, he admits it. He was a perfectionist, he's admitted he was "difficult" for the other Pythons to work with, but his perfectionism also resulted in some great sketches and acting.
@heavymetalrybakina
@heavymetalrybakina 8 жыл бұрын
Joseph Scott Fawlty Towers was indeed brilliant, but Cleese, if you read Python bios, is actually a fairly lazy person. He just hated having to spend 10 months a year on Python series, his words. That's the real reason, most likely, not the originality issue. So yes, he is a bit full of it, using originality as the main excuse, and the other Pythons were all angry at him to varying degrees with his reason given for not doing season 4.
@Wishbringer7
@Wishbringer7 8 жыл бұрын
We don't always enjoy hearing the downside of something, but seems Cleese has a very rounded view of this, without grudges on his part. And apparently the others held no grudges as he was welcomed back for the movies. It's good sometimes to hear that everything wasn't all fun and games. Helps us view life realistically. Now John, where is the llama I was promised for writing this?
@snazzle9764
@snazzle9764 3 жыл бұрын
Apparently a couple of the pythons gave him crap for making a traditional sit-com(Fawtly Towers) after python, Jones even called him a "traitor"! I have no clue how serious this scorn was, but in any case it got all cleared up soon enough like you said.
@macsnafu
@macsnafu Жыл бұрын
The llama died. Instead, he found this lovely fjord for you!
@richbuilds_com
@richbuilds_com Жыл бұрын
I feel like he's been given the chance to explain, finally, with hindsight where his head was at back then. Totally understand his decision given the circumstances, even though at the time I couldn't believe he was walking away from PYTHON!
@richbuilds_com
@richbuilds_com Жыл бұрын
He's not a Python! He's a very naughty traditional sit-com writer who knocked it out of the ballpark!
@Wishbringer7
@Wishbringer7 Жыл бұрын
@@macsnafu It was no great surprise that he sent me a moose instead. But its hooves were nailed to the shipping crate, evidently so that it wouldn't escape when the crate was opened.
@txikitofandango
@txikitofandango 8 жыл бұрын
The Monty Pythons weren't the same without Paul McCarthy.
@stumbling
@stumbling 8 жыл бұрын
It's not Paul McCarthy, you blasphemous tit. That is Jasper Carrot.
@Ubu987
@Ubu987 8 жыл бұрын
That is fake Jasper. Fasper.
@stephenfletcher5391
@stephenfletcher5391 8 жыл бұрын
Yes Jasper the Carrot who briefly turned into Paul McCarthy and then got better :)
@tumadoireacht
@tumadoireacht 8 жыл бұрын
Paul McCarthy went off and joined the Beatles with George Harrington
@stephenfletcher5391
@stephenfletcher5391 8 жыл бұрын
tumadoireacht No that would be Paul Mccartney, the one who got Wings and went looking for Larry, Moe and Curly after Lennon became bigger than Jesus and declared "that's no ordinary rabbit" ;)
@PetersPianoShoppe
@PetersPianoShoppe 8 жыл бұрын
Pool ol' Chapman... he was such a talent, and to hear stories of how he was losing his edge due to alcoholism.... such a shame. He was always my favorite Python.
@Sapsche
@Sapsche 8 жыл бұрын
Indeed, he played both Brian and King Arthur for crying out loud.
@thebrazilianatlantis165
@thebrazilianatlantis165 8 жыл бұрын
At his best Chapman was amazing, which imo would include "Flying Lesson" ("'... moosh... bastard...") and "Icelandic Honey Week" ("fish and imported honey, oh strewth").
@PetersPianoShoppe
@PetersPianoShoppe 8 жыл бұрын
Joseph Scott "Ohhh, 'an aero-plane'.. oh I say we are grand aren't we? Pardon me, mater, I'm off to play the grand pi-ano!"
@PetersPianoShoppe
@PetersPianoShoppe 8 жыл бұрын
Joseph Scott A gaahhhp... a gaaahp in one's 'oop!
@thebrazilianatlantis165
@thebrazilianatlantis165 8 жыл бұрын
I like how he delivers the second "grand piano" not particularly convincingly, like, That's how much of a worthless repetitive asshole this character is. Bleedin' croquet lawn, bleedin' highness, all right all right all right, bleedin' wire
@Nintendo_Gamer1889
@Nintendo_Gamer1889 8 жыл бұрын
Great actor....glad he is open about this subject.
@Darkstar263
@Darkstar263 8 жыл бұрын
In a way I'm sort of grateful that he decided to leave the tv series. We wouldn't have seen Fawlty Towers otherwise.
@hategreed1
@hategreed1 8 жыл бұрын
VERY grateful!!!
@farmbrough
@farmbrough 8 жыл бұрын
Darkstar263 He said that himself. Why are you saying it again?
@codeoptimizationware2803
@codeoptimizationware2803 6 жыл бұрын
@Darkstar263: _Fawlty Towers_ is a great show! I have it complete, all episodes in my video collection--it's excellent, as excellent as it always has been, and I've known the show for a long, long time now. And Connie Booth is lovely, lovely hot in that show too hehehehehehe
@PippaPPod
@PippaPPod 6 жыл бұрын
Only 12 episodes of Fawlty Towers tho. I needed more! Brilliant, bloody brilliant!
@TheHManShow
@TheHManShow 8 жыл бұрын
I really like how ambitious and passionate John is! He wants to be his own person and I admire that
@SometimesInnocent
@SometimesInnocent 8 жыл бұрын
He once said that anyone who didn't find Monty Python funny was 'obviously working-class, and thus incapable of appreciating intellectual humour". That put me off him a bit ( it was in 1973 or 1974)
@frankienamosaki7547
@frankienamosaki7547 8 жыл бұрын
he could have been joking? he does have a very cut throat sort of humour. Have you seen his speech at chapman's funeral?
@justclosing
@justclosing 8 жыл бұрын
The only thing missing at the funeral was the comfy chair and "Yes Graham, I go to church regyulee"
@KentuckyWallChicken
@KentuckyWallChicken 8 жыл бұрын
+SometimesInnocent Welcome to Dry Humor!
@widM_
@widM_ 7 жыл бұрын
+SometimesInnocent He was obviously joking but also he was probably right and really thought that.
@sdgakatbk
@sdgakatbk Жыл бұрын
I like this. He's talking honestly and openly about a difficult decision he had to make which I'm sure he really struggled over.
@glovere2
@glovere2 Жыл бұрын
It’s so great the way he framed his departure from Python with honesty and insight into the feelings of his fellow actors. Classy.
@SometimesInnocent
@SometimesInnocent 8 жыл бұрын
It's a shame Chapman shot John Lennon and broke up the Monty Python group
@AegisNova
@AegisNova 8 жыл бұрын
Is that intellectual humor, or working-class humor?
@SometimesInnocent
@SometimesInnocent 8 жыл бұрын
Brian Esposito I'm working on an answer to that question with all my intellect :-)
@hunsler1006
@hunsler1006 8 жыл бұрын
Why is there a difference? ;)
@thebrazilianatlantis165
@thebrazilianatlantis165 8 жыл бұрын
"Is that intellectual humor, or working-class humor?" No.
@RocketRadioShow1
@RocketRadioShow1 7 жыл бұрын
SometimesInnocent he was trying to impress jodie foster.
@gst013
@gst013 3 жыл бұрын
The bit about Graham at the end was so sad. He was such a talented guy, yet he seemed to have so many demons he couldn't shake.
@nubreed13
@nubreed13 8 ай бұрын
Must have been brutal to be an openly gay man in the 60s and 70s
@Felipe-xt4id
@Felipe-xt4id 6 жыл бұрын
Just binge watched the whole series on netflix in a week and seeing it that way, he is 100% correct, the skechts in the third season were good but they sure started to become iterations of other sketches they already had done. I think you really need to have a lot of courage to step out of something that is a huge success and the public was craving for more. It's better to do it or your show wll just become a shadow of what it once was (as it happens a lot nowadays)
@cultfilmfreakreviews
@cultfilmfreakreviews Жыл бұрын
face it; the entire show is annoying but with a few funny moments.
@8bitneslife1985
@8bitneslife1985 Жыл бұрын
@@cultfilmfreakreviews No one in this comments section will ever agree with you, LOL.
@obscure.reference
@obscure.reference Жыл бұрын
@@cultfilmfreakreviews comedy is inherently annoying and needy, much of it is very funny though
@flipadavis
@flipadavis Жыл бұрын
Had to look up the season 3 list. Season 3 ep 33 has the Cheese Shop sketch which in my mind is the masterpiece of Monty Python sketches. This episode also has Salad Days which is amazing.
@obscure.reference
@obscure.reference Жыл бұрын
@@flipadavis im pretty sure the cheese shop sketch predates python entirely. could be wrong though. there are a few sketches from older shows pythons had put on that were remade for flying circus, additionally early episodes of flying circus and later episodes contain many of the same sketches/concepts. this is what cleese complains about i believe, the fact that they were explicitly plagiarizing their own material.
@joewhite22
@joewhite22 9 жыл бұрын
Smart thinking by Cleese. The last series without him was noticeably weaker than the previous series. And then of course he went on to write the brilliant, and still funny to this day, Fawlty Towers. All the Monty Python lot were talented but his attitude here compared to the rest demonstrates why Cleese was a cut above them in comedy.
@OeditpusRex
@OeditpusRex 9 жыл бұрын
+jackieboy johnson - Are you referring to the abbreviated (six episodes) fourth series?
@MrSwanley
@MrSwanley 9 жыл бұрын
+jackieboy johnson I don't agree that Cleese was "a cut above them in comedy". Python was brilliant because everybody brought something unique. Cleese with his tall stature and permanent upper class irritation, Michael Palin is my personal favorite for his permanent (and often inappropriate) optimism, Idle with his wordplay (sometimes in song form), Gilliam with his cartoons, Jones is harder to pinpoint as a performer but his writing and direction were important too: his in-drag characters were often very funny.
@marguskiis7711
@marguskiis7711 9 жыл бұрын
+jackieboy johnson Do not agree. Later series were not weaker and FT is very overrated. I have never undrestood why Cleese is so adored.
@BismillahYes
@BismillahYes 8 жыл бұрын
+jackieboy johnson Yes it was weaker, because Cleese left. That's why it really feels like something is lacking, and it would have felt the same way if any of the others had left.
@MrSwanley
@MrSwanley 8 жыл бұрын
Absolutely it was weaker. They had lost a core cast member. But that doesn't mean that JC was a cut above everyone else. All of them went on to successful careers in one way or another.
@nedhasler2687
@nedhasler2687 4 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful discussion of something truly to sacred to us all, in the most individual way possible - examining the choices we made. Viewing it through the great John Cleese certainly gives us a great opportunity to live that examination vicariously. I will offer some advice I got once that a truly cherish: "Trust the person you were when you made that choice." (This isn't any way to escape a truly poor choice where someone might have been hurt, but this is about the choices we make as we develop ourselves, especially professionally as applied to Mr. Cleese. I would argue it also applies to relationships, if not more so.)
@SIMUL4CR4
@SIMUL4CR4 3 жыл бұрын
So much respect for this man. More every day.
@stoneblue1795
@stoneblue1795 6 жыл бұрын
Always enjoyed your presence John, in the episodes you were involved in and films you did after. Hat's off.
@msh6865
@msh6865 Жыл бұрын
It strikes me that the dynamics of personal interaction within Python were very similar to that of a mega successful rock band of the same period. Fascinating hearing Cleese discuss the behind the scenes stuff.
@Cancun771
@Cancun771 8 жыл бұрын
Poor sweet Graham. There is, in the end, so little we can do for our fellow man in need.
@Hibernicus1968
@Hibernicus1968 8 жыл бұрын
Tell me about it! I had the misfortune to watch my dad, at the end of his life, fall into depression at the failure of his third marriage (which had lasted 24 years), and crawl into a bottle. I tried everything I could think of: sympathy, being a good listener, spending more time with him, spending less time with him, anger, guilt, pouring out his booze, you name it. Nothing worked. He stopped drinking a few of times -- occasionally something (like a hospital visit) would wake him up to how out of control it was and he would stop. For a while. Nothing kept him on the wagon long though, and in the end, he literally drank himself to death (look up Wernicke-Korsakoff syndrome) I still wonder if there's anything I could have done to reach him, but I guess not. In the end, you can't MAKE people get help. You can drag them to it, kicking and screaming sometimes, but if they don't commit to it themselves, they won't get better. It's good that Chapman eventually did get help, committed to getting better, and overcome his addition. I wish everybody who had this problem could.
@johnc3403
@johnc3403 3 жыл бұрын
....well you could buy him a pint.
@KingOfAllAnimals
@KingOfAllAnimals 8 жыл бұрын
Strange to see how professional John Cleese was about his career. He said it, by season three they were not doing original material. Its the same problem with Saturday Night Live. The Radna/ Belushi years were the best. The second incarnation was not so good and the third attempt was spiraling into the toilet drain. Sometimes you have to know when to quit and John Cleese was actually pretty good about spotting when his time to quit Monty Python was. Monty Python did go on afterwords without him but the ORIGINAL was so damn English but the right balance of dry funny, zany, and slapstick and its humor was not so surreal to leave people baffled. It was a job not trying to come off like Benny Hill which in its day was another English GREAT SHOW! Sadly in America there was a prohibition on all them Boobies bouncing around during Benny Hill but he was never intended to be a "Family" show in as much as an adult comedy hour. Strange thing about Monty Python, there was sexual jokes, innuendo and humor but it was so damn dry and maintained this strange and artful tastefulness Benny Hill did not have. I must say i have enjoyed John Cleese's work over the years and damn if he is not good at what he does.
@DEP717
@DEP717 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for mentioning you Benny Hill. A local station near New Jersey used to carry his show, I watched as a kid and couldn't believe it was on the air. Comic genius. You are spot on about SNL, they had a rough road in the early 80s.
@danmagoo
@danmagoo 8 жыл бұрын
It's fun to imagine that Python was an eternal font of brilliance, cut off in its prime, to the world's great loss. But Cleese (and whoever else had a part in stopping the show) was right. The truth is, the show was going off a cliff by the end. If you have the full set, you've seen it. The last half, at least, of season 3 is unwatchable, even to the biggest fans, and maybe especially for the biggest fans.
@blacquesjacques7239
@blacquesjacques7239 7 жыл бұрын
Dan Magoo Cleese was the cat herder
@MikoMango23
@MikoMango23 7 жыл бұрын
"The last half, at least, of season 3 is unwatchable, even to the biggest fans, and maybe especially for the biggest fans." No. Look at Dennis Moore, Prejudice, Tudor Jobs, etc...!
@RasMajnouni
@RasMajnouni 6 жыл бұрын
Was maybe good to stop the show, but i have viewed most of their sketches on KZbin so many,many times over and never find them "so dull, dull, dull, dull, just so dull" " Chartered Account Sketch" (Lion Tamer Sketch) kzbin.info/www/bejne/gqK0nXaFor2ofq8
@BrianKishreviews
@BrianKishreviews 6 жыл бұрын
to each their own. i thought season 3 also took on a darker tone in general which was cool, never unwatchable but series 4 had quite a lot of skip-able material, which in part came about, without cleese holding up his end of the creative process
@mshroye2
@mshroye2 6 жыл бұрын
Dan Magoo you’re right. Once you get to salad days you really the quality starts to go downhill granted there are a smattering if episodes that I enjoy in the latter half of the 3rd series and there are two or three in the 4th series but a large portion of those final two series are a pain to watch
@numberstation
@numberstation 7 жыл бұрын
I have the greatest admiration for those who quit at their peak. These days, it’s commonplace to flog a good idea to death, which then spoils the whole thing.
@theviciouschickenofbristol4779
@theviciouschickenofbristol4779 7 жыл бұрын
I often look back at my life in the same light. Wishing I could have just relaxed and enjoyed what I was doing more.
@louiso.4325
@louiso.4325 8 жыл бұрын
It took a lot of guts for him to do the third series when he really didn't want to. He really did take on for the team.
@wurly164
@wurly164 8 жыл бұрын
And now for something completely different
@stumbling
@stumbling 8 жыл бұрын
You have to trust your own judgement. We never get to see where the alternative decisions might have lead to, perhaps that is a good thing after all. I hate it when good things come to an end, it's very hard to see those situations clearly and act in your own best interest; I think that's really the mark of maturity, when you can walk away from something you've poured yourself into.
@KentuckyWallChicken
@KentuckyWallChicken 8 жыл бұрын
I've seen cartoons that kept going and going and going (Fairly Odd Parents, Spongebob), and seeing how they degraded in value taught me so much about moving on no matter how good something is. It's so sad, but in reality it's usually the right thing to do.
@azapro911
@azapro911 5 жыл бұрын
Cleese realised, perhaps earlier than anybody else in the business, that quality is usually far better than quantity. Fawlty Towers is the ultimate example of this, all twelve episodes were so brilliantly written that it feels like 120.
@abc-bu7nr
@abc-bu7nr Жыл бұрын
For the life of me I could not find Fawlty Towers funny. I loved A Fish Called Wanda and all things Python
@nasdkhan254
@nasdkhan254 Жыл бұрын
​@@abc-bu7nryou must be depressed
@borderlands6606
@borderlands6606 Жыл бұрын
@@abc-bu7nr I can't recall a thing about Wanda, but Fawlty Towers was superb. You have to understand the end of empire feel of those hotels in the 1970s, populated by eccentrics and rogues keeping up appearances. Basil embraced Cleese's two sides, the establishment functionary and the end of the pier chancer in one tweed-clad maniac.
@bradarmstrong3952
@bradarmstrong3952 Жыл бұрын
There were only twelve?? It's always felt like there were many more than that ... a tribute to the polished genius contained within!
@JMxx6204
@JMxx6204 Жыл бұрын
Nah he’s going to do more this year. Yep, not content with the awkward Python reunion ten or so years ago, he’s finally decided a geriatric Basil is a good idea. That alimony won’t pay itself I suppose. All a bit sad really.
@MrMaharg65
@MrMaharg65 Жыл бұрын
The Beatles & Monty Python were the two greatest gifts that the UK gave to the world.
@markraishbrook
@markraishbrook Жыл бұрын
Don't forget cheddar cheese!
@nubreed13
@nubreed13 8 ай бұрын
​@@markraishbrook And Mr Bean!
@ednicholson7839
@ednicholson7839 23 күн бұрын
I prefer The Stones and Blackadder
@Joker-yw9hl
@Joker-yw9hl 8 жыл бұрын
Love the way Americans say python. In the UK we say it like pie-thun but you guys really put some emphasis on the O don't you
@arbrento73
@arbrento73 7 жыл бұрын
"Hey, you're the guy from Mahnny Pythaaaan!"
@Darrylizer1
@Darrylizer1 7 жыл бұрын
Ehh, you say tomato I say seed berry.
@TheOldBlackShuckyDog
@TheOldBlackShuckyDog 7 жыл бұрын
Joker sounds so weird with the on sound
@blacquesjacques7239
@blacquesjacques7239 7 жыл бұрын
Joker We can also pronounce Aluminum . Note the correct spelling . 😛
@TheOldBlackShuckyDog
@TheOldBlackShuckyDog 7 жыл бұрын
Blacques Jacques aluminium, ya speaking English mate. Not American
@Chronocrits
@Chronocrits 2 жыл бұрын
And the movies and Fawlty Towers (except for Meaning of Life) were all absolutely phenomenal, so well done that man.
@serendipityshopnyc
@serendipityshopnyc Жыл бұрын
Including A Fish Called Wanda, one of the best Python movies ever made.
@williamgullett5911
@williamgullett5911 Жыл бұрын
@@serendipityshopnyca Python movie with only 2 members of Python?
@serendipityshopnyc
@serendipityshopnyc Жыл бұрын
@@williamgullett5911 "A Fish Called Wanda" has definitely got a decent amount of Python flavor. To me, it counts.
@williamgullett5911
@williamgullett5911 Жыл бұрын
@@serendipityshopnyc I would say it’s heavily Python humor. I thought a Python movie would need to be the whole group but Cleese definitely did everything for the movie.
@serendipityshopnyc
@serendipityshopnyc Жыл бұрын
@@williamgullett5911 Palin, too. His part as the anguished animal lover is a major contribution to the hilarity.
@topchoices
@topchoices 9 жыл бұрын
Wonderful talk will have to check out the new book!Tuned in for humor stayed on for advice on creativity!
@vardellsfolly5200
@vardellsfolly5200 8 жыл бұрын
He was right, of course. Better stop while you're on top.
@davidrussell8689
@davidrussell8689 9 күн бұрын
When describing his writing with Chapman you realize there’s a dark side to making us laugh .
@r.b.4611
@r.b.4611 9 жыл бұрын
Good interview
@Barbarous_Wretch
@Barbarous_Wretch Жыл бұрын
Poor old Graham. Very talented, funny guy. Sad to hear about him caught in the jaws of addiction.
@teletubetodd
@teletubetodd 6 жыл бұрын
It was Cleese who always said, "And now for something completely different." Since that wasn't what the Pythons were doing anymore, I guess he really wanted something completely different, so he left.
@redheadredemption1573
@redheadredemption1573 6 жыл бұрын
To anyone wondering, the two "insecure pythons" he referenced were Terry Jones and Graham Chapman.
@KlLLERROBOT99
@KlLLERROBOT99 7 жыл бұрын
I'm sad that Monty Python is over. Their live show back in, 2014 I think, was their last Tribute to the group and their comedy. I loved their comedy because I grew up watching their movies and listening to their comedy. It was just an amazing type of comedy that was one of a kind and changed comedy after what they did. I'm really going to miss them. But as they have said... And now for something completely different.
@ramonavoight5656
@ramonavoight5656 5 күн бұрын
It's good to see someone who knows how to "leave on top", unlike some of these professional athletes that keep playing WAY beyond their best years.
@beback_
@beback_ 9 жыл бұрын
He was the Roger Waters of Python, apparently.
@GoldStorm07
@GoldStorm07 9 жыл бұрын
+Red Floyd Except that while John was indeed a perfectionist, he never became a control freak. Waters ended up trying to pass himself off as the only reason Pink Floyd existed, whereas Monty Python was never seen as anything but an equal group.
@MephLeo
@MephLeo 9 жыл бұрын
+Red Floyd Well, Chapman was said, by Cleese himself, to be the best of them at judging whether or not their scripts were funny enough to be shoot. Also, he was a key element in building up the nonsense funny on the scripts. For instance, originally the parrot sketch would be about another animal. Chapman was the one to come up with the parrot idea. So, his alcoholism, and later death, was a genuine blow at the creative power of the group.
@konchog3
@konchog3 9 жыл бұрын
+Leopoldo Aranha That sheds a lot of light, thank you!
@thomassutherland9887
@thomassutherland9887 9 жыл бұрын
+Arya Pourtabatabaie And Chapman was its Syd Barrette
@ugoblaboscobsi
@ugoblaboscobsi 8 жыл бұрын
+Red Floyd shhhh
@Asmallcorneroftheinternet
@Asmallcorneroftheinternet Жыл бұрын
It doesn't really matter if you think about it. Because he came back for the movies. Who cares if he's gone for one season? It's still funny, and he's coming back.
@jeffw1267
@jeffw1267 Жыл бұрын
Chapman might have been an alcoholic but he was the lead actor in the first two Python movies and he was brilliant in both roles. Maybe he had trouble learning lines but the end result is what matters. He was also great in the third movie and I believe he had stopped drinking by then.
@keks1krvmel
@keks1krvmel Жыл бұрын
he had already stopped drinking before they started life of brian i believe
@deadman746
@deadman746 4 күн бұрын
Cleese was the straight man, after all.
@Ideaman47
@Ideaman47 8 жыл бұрын
Python is such a good programming language. What a loss to python 3.X community!
@ohaRega
@ohaRega 7 жыл бұрын
You probably already know that the programming language Python was named after Monty Python. But I want to point it out anyway.
@FreakyStyleytobby
@FreakyStyleytobby 6 жыл бұрын
Dejm, i didnt know that. Its so cool
@iainmclaughlan1557
@iainmclaughlan1557 6 жыл бұрын
Just started getting into the language.
@theinternet1424
@theinternet1424 6 жыл бұрын
It's still several orders of magnitude better than Ruby Wax on Rails.
@ceorgeglooney190
@ceorgeglooney190 22 күн бұрын
Staying is the safe option. Safe isn't challenging. No challenge is stagnation. Stagnation will end up worse than the risk of leaving.
@97channel
@97channel 8 жыл бұрын
Do you want to come back to my place? Bouncy bouncy.
@fangbanger3556
@fangbanger3556 7 жыл бұрын
97channel My hovercraft is full of eels 😘
@waynej2608
@waynej2608 4 жыл бұрын
Is she a 'goer'?! Wink, wink, nudge, nudge. Say no more!!
@zerosen1972
@zerosen1972 5 ай бұрын
​@@waynej2608Purley eh? 😉
@iOnlySignIn
@iOnlySignIn 9 жыл бұрын
He loves freedom and innovation too much. Probably why he could never remain married for long. :P
@hieuto5183
@hieuto5183 8 жыл бұрын
should have married a lemur
@malcolmabram2957
@malcolmabram2957 Жыл бұрын
He is right. Many programmes lose their appeal after too many serials. For instance, I loved the last of the summer wine, but the genre was battered to death and went on far too long; stopped watching it long before it finished. John Cleese, clearly learnt this lesson. Fawlty Towers were just the two seasons. Perfect, and I am sure such contributed to the series being a leading legend in serial comedy. It stands as a beacon, and still shines today.
@tombradford7035
@tombradford7035 7 жыл бұрын
Tracy Smith has beautiful eyes.
@sporkfindus4777
@sporkfindus4777 2 жыл бұрын
He loved appearing on Les Dawson's sketch show though. Along the same lines as Python. Cleese and Dawson were physically and accent-wise very different, but intellectually on the same level. You could see Cleese enjoyed every moment, relaxed and without pressure.
@geraldspencer1956
@geraldspencer1956 8 жыл бұрын
Why did Cleese leave Python? They were getting too silly!
@RasMajnouni
@RasMajnouni 5 жыл бұрын
He went elsewhere to find some cheese.
@tomallen5837
@tomallen5837 Жыл бұрын
So you know what they say, hindsight is 20/20. Good to hear mr. Cleese divulge just a few more things about python.
@justclosing
@justclosing 8 жыл бұрын
I don't care John..my hero was always Michael Palin
@michalbukvai7548
@michalbukvai7548 8 жыл бұрын
For me Palin was second only to Eric Idle
@justclosing
@justclosing 8 жыл бұрын
Biggus Dickus (the funniest scene ever) and Ke-ke-ke-Ken with the old lady was Palin at his best (even though Wanda was not MP)
@justclosing
@justclosing 8 жыл бұрын
***** Well, it's a joke name, sir
@stephenfletcher5391
@stephenfletcher5391 4 жыл бұрын
Cleese, Palin, Idle, Chapman, Jones, even Gillam I don't understand how anyone can not like all of them and I think they really needed each other to be what they were. The combination of Cleese, Palin and Idle I think especially is the ideal combination you want for good humor. Like putting the best of Rowan Atkinson, Bill Burr and Bill Murray, Jim Carrey, Robin Williams, Eddie Murphy, Sacha Baron Cohen, Simon Pegg and Benny Hill into one...sure that would be one ugly dude...but it could make even the Devil laugh
@borderlands6606
@borderlands6606 Жыл бұрын
Cleese was better known than the other Pythons, and had been doing TV skits with well-known comedians for some time. He knew it was possible to have a career outside Python, which the others had yet to discover. Fawlty Towers was a conventional sitcom in many ways, and had mainstream traction whereas Monty Python drew a smaller, alternative, late night audience mainly. Almost every successful British TV comedy series had a movie spinoff, and these were always worse than the television version. This was true of Cleese's film ventures, in my opinion.
@SuperHuia
@SuperHuia 7 жыл бұрын
It's fantastic John could do fawlty towers. The series was pure genius. Still wish there were more.
@mountwallydhonk8833
@mountwallydhonk8833 4 жыл бұрын
ft was rubbish
@D.L91
@D.L91 3 жыл бұрын
@@mountwallydhonk8833 What??? That is simply wrong. Remove yourself from the Internet
@stevehughes1510
@stevehughes1510 4 жыл бұрын
Yes we as an audience don't know the machinations and goings on with TV and film productions etc..........we buy the end product so it's good to get the background every so often.
@DrDespicable
@DrDespicable 9 жыл бұрын
BURMA!
@DrDespicable
@DrDespicable 9 жыл бұрын
... ... ... I may have done...
@DeirdreEmm
@DeirdreEmm 9 жыл бұрын
+DrDespicable LMAO. INTERCOURSE THE PENGUIN!!!
@bunpeishiratori5849
@bunpeishiratori5849 6 жыл бұрын
Why'd you say Burma?
@victorwilburn8588
@victorwilburn8588 3 жыл бұрын
Very candid.
@greghipskind7265
@greghipskind7265 8 жыл бұрын
And a huge Fish Slapping for you Cleese.
@douglassun8456
@douglassun8456 11 ай бұрын
His comment about having to do Python 10 months out of the year is what jumps out at me. It is a real commitment and a real strain; Spike Milligan broke under it more than once over 9 years of writing and performing on The Goon Show. It must be all the worse when you know there are other projects you want to develop.
@blacquesjacques7239
@blacquesjacques7239 7 жыл бұрын
The Pythons are the Beatles of Comedy
@cultfilmfreakreviews
@cultfilmfreakreviews 4 жыл бұрын
no.
@jonmyers8681
@jonmyers8681 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@richbuilds_com
@richbuilds_com Жыл бұрын
All legitimate concerns. Great interview.
@38dragoon38
@38dragoon38 8 жыл бұрын
"Coz it waz shit innit!"
@joebuckaroo82
@joebuckaroo82 Жыл бұрын
I love to hear those who are craftsmen who, while not, arrogant about their abilities certainly know what they are doing and can articulate it.
@borderlands6606
@borderlands6606 8 жыл бұрын
Cleese was neurotic, which was hilarious. Once he began analysing and becoming at ease with himself he wasn't nearly so funny.
@ChoppingtonOtter
@ChoppingtonOtter 7 жыл бұрын
Borderlands I love his work but always get the impression he takes himself a little too seriously in life.
@ThomasKDye
@ThomasKDye 9 жыл бұрын
He may not have appeared in the fourth series, but his fingerprints were still on it. He had writing credits for three shows (half the series).
@tuxguys
@tuxguys 8 жыл бұрын
Lots of revelations here... "Python" still slays me, but I'd have to say that the single funniest episode of a TV show I've ever seen was an episode of "Fawlty Towers." (If I'm not mistaken "Python" went on for one more season without Cleese, and it was nowhere near as good.)
@satandy6058
@satandy6058 8 жыл бұрын
tuxguys Series, one more series not seasons.
@tuxguys
@tuxguys 8 жыл бұрын
THESATURNSSC1 You got it.
@LordZontar
@LordZontar 6 жыл бұрын
The fourth series was... alright, but very clearly weaker. The best episodes were probably "The Golden Age Of Ballooning" and "Mr. Neutron" and even those don't rise to the height of Python comedy power that was seen in series 2 and a chunk of 3. Series 4 is watchable, but definitely suffers without Cleese's presence and creative input, although he was right to leave when he did. In terms of what he was after artistically, he really had to take off.
@peternystrom6632
@peternystrom6632 23 күн бұрын
I LOVE JOHN CLEESE! The best comedian along with Robin Williams ever lived.
@slothfromthegoonies8201
@slothfromthegoonies8201 8 жыл бұрын
To make a better show.
@quirkypurple
@quirkypurple 6 жыл бұрын
I completely agree with his reasoning and sentiments here.
@danschneider3077
@danschneider3077 8 жыл бұрын
John Cleese is the best- he just makes me laugh, and being a German, that ain't easy to do
@Akm72
@Akm72 8 жыл бұрын
Indeed. Ze German sense of humour is no laughing matter!
@DaveElwoodCutter
@DaveElwoodCutter 8 жыл бұрын
Hör auf zu lachen und zurück an die Arbeit!
@OliDaChilla
@OliDaChilla 8 жыл бұрын
Denn Arbeit macht bekanntlich frei..
@Ericwvb2
@Ericwvb2 8 жыл бұрын
German Guest: Can we help you? Basil Fawlty: Oh, you speak English. German Guest: Of course. Basil Fawlty: Ah, wonderful! WUNDERBAR! Ahh! Please allow me to introduce myself, I am the owner of Fawlty Towers. And may I welcome your war... your war... you wall... you all... you all, and hope that your stay will be a happy one. Now, would you like to eat first, or would you like a drink before the war... AHH! Er... trespassers will be tied up with piano wire... SORRY, SORRY!
@thexalon
@thexalon 8 жыл бұрын
Careful: As a German, you cannot safely watch the "Funniest Joke in the World" sketch.
@tv2109
@tv2109 8 жыл бұрын
This was really interesting. I know at one point he said he left because he felt like he had nothing left to contribute- which I never really bought as he immediately went on to create fawlty towers, so obviously he had a lot of creative humor left. I had heard Graham Chapman was an alcoholic but in this interview Cleese admitted since he was Chapman's writing partner it just got too difficult to work with Chapman, so I guess you can't really blame him for wanting out.
@thebrazilianatlantis165
@thebrazilianatlantis165 8 жыл бұрын
Chapman was absurdly drunk during Drury Lane, which was publicly embarrassing. The BBC was already looking at the Fawlty Towers pilot script before the Black Knight scene was shot.
@Cheesemonk3h
@Cheesemonk3h 8 жыл бұрын
really kills the mood every time the camera switches over to see the condescending, forced attention of the host who clearly wants nothing more than to get back to her trailer backstage
@friesiamans1966
@friesiamans1966 8 жыл бұрын
hmmm, i don´t agree...
@drhoneybadger
@drhoneybadger 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe you're reading into it too much
@antoniod
@antoniod 7 жыл бұрын
Those third season episodes that Cleese was so dissatisfied with were my favorite ones.
@victorpontbriand5863
@victorpontbriand5863 8 жыл бұрын
As the Stones famously said of the Beatles "What din't they like the money"?
@birgerhalvorsen8550
@birgerhalvorsen8550 8 жыл бұрын
The Beatles were broke when they split. The Rolling Stones fled to France, because they could not afford English tax. The Beatles never entered the Led Zeppelin era of rock. Is that really a true quote?
@victorpontbriand5863
@victorpontbriand5863 8 жыл бұрын
I dont know. It is something I remeber reading, I cannot speak to its veracity, mayhap I was stoned. Lets Google and discuss?
@satandy6058
@satandy6058 8 жыл бұрын
Birger Halvorsen What is English tax never heard of it as it doesn't exist.
@birgerhalvorsen8550
@birgerhalvorsen8550 8 жыл бұрын
Me Meno Are you being cute? They had really high income tax in the 60's and 70's.
@DEP717
@DEP717 8 жыл бұрын
Oh, yes. One reason a lot of British artists came over to the U.S. back then. The song "Tax Man" by the Beatles was written about it. I think Mr. Meno was having a bit of fun :)
@codswallop321
@codswallop321 4 жыл бұрын
0:55 "the two who I think were most insecure about life after Python..." I'm going to guess this was Chapman and Idle. Chapman because he was clearly in trouble with alcohol; Idle because, historically, he has spent the most time "milking" the Python brand. Thoughts?
@Kurbisa
@Kurbisa 3 жыл бұрын
I'd personally bet on Chapman and Jones; From series 3 on, Terry J. took more responsibility in linking the sketches so the episode seems more "organic" and devoted his time almost exclusively to the Python brand, he even said he felt betrayed when John left. Fortunately the guys continued working, and there's even some material written by Cleese in the 4th season, although it wasn't performed by him. And although most of the classic sketches are indeed from the first 2 seasons, the latter half of the series is underappreciated as far as I'm concerned. I like the flow of the third season, and the "awful family" sketch from season 4 is one of my favorites.
@ladycopine
@ladycopine 8 жыл бұрын
But he was still in the movies so he didn't really left...
8 жыл бұрын
This is just about the TV show, not the movies.
@thebrazilianatlantis165
@thebrazilianatlantis165 8 жыл бұрын
Cleese actually quit Python during about July '74 to March '76. That's why the photo of Python taken by Richard Avedon in '75 is five guys, for instance. Holy Grail was filmed before he quit.
@heliotropezzz333
@heliotropezzz333 6 жыл бұрын
"didn't really LEAVE" Why don't people know how to construct the various past tenses now?
@jgesselberty
@jgesselberty Жыл бұрын
If all you did was the Dead Parrot sketch, you would be remembered.
@jonmyers8681
@jonmyers8681 Жыл бұрын
I'm a die hard Python fan, but for some reason I never thought that the dead parrot sketch was that funny, but it's their most famous bit
@LibbyK009
@LibbyK009 8 жыл бұрын
"An argument's an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of anything the other person says."
@NewhamMatt
@NewhamMatt 8 жыл бұрын
No it isn't.
@carltaylor4942
@carltaylor4942 8 жыл бұрын
Oh, yes it is!
@NewhamMatt
@NewhamMatt 8 жыл бұрын
Carl Taylor Not at all!
@thebrazilianatlantis165
@thebrazilianatlantis165 8 жыл бұрын
No no no.
@coloradoseeker8994
@coloradoseeker8994 7 жыл бұрын
nonsense
@KC-nd7nt
@KC-nd7nt Жыл бұрын
The art first Everyone remembers you Mr cleese . Thx for the laughs
@waldog550
@waldog550 8 жыл бұрын
A Python-esque icon to be sure.
@kreglfromworld
@kreglfromworld 8 жыл бұрын
incorrect use of -esque, sorry
@dirkdiggler9482
@dirkdiggler9482 8 жыл бұрын
How?
@SometimesInnocent
@SometimesInnocent 8 жыл бұрын
www.google.fr/search?q=pythonesque&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b&gfe_rd=cr&ei=B5a7V8bPB5eCaLrXrfgG
@dirkdiggler9482
@dirkdiggler9482 8 жыл бұрын
SometimesInnocent I don't know if you're addressing me, but I was asking my question of kreglfromworld, when he said 'incorrect use of -esque, sorry'. I don't think it was an incorrect usage at all.
@SometimesInnocent
@SometimesInnocent 8 жыл бұрын
Dirk Diggler No, I was supporting you and educating him
@jelt110
@jelt110 9 жыл бұрын
Honest John, always trying. God you have to love the guy. We sure do. Thanks John, you gave us your best clever ideas. You inspire the fuck out of me. Imperfect as everyone else, but so much more focused. uber cool
@spyguy6249
@spyguy6249 8 жыл бұрын
He talks about it as if it's a bad thing. You should strive to be original and not rehash and produce the same crap over and over. If more people thought like he used to we would have a better world, just look at modern "art" a 5 year old could literally reproduce it.
@The25thBusShow
@The25thBusShow 8 жыл бұрын
Modern art exists because there is so much pressure to be original.
@musikSkool
@musikSkool Жыл бұрын
If they hadn't quit when they did Douglas Adams would have been a regular writer and we would have never gotten Hitchhiker's Guide.
@Delta-mz3re
@Delta-mz3re 7 жыл бұрын
And there you have it...a lizard interviewing John Cleese
@SpaztallicA
@SpaztallicA 8 жыл бұрын
It sounds as if he has a slight american twang in some of his word pronunciation
@pacmanindy
@pacmanindy 4 жыл бұрын
Love John Cleese, especially Faulty Towers!
@iamironclaw
@iamironclaw 8 жыл бұрын
Such a hot lady.
@TheEdwardNigma
@TheEdwardNigma 8 жыл бұрын
+I AM IRONCLAW! I know. John is a very sexy girl.
@MyEyesBled
@MyEyesBled 8 жыл бұрын
+I AM IRONCLAW!
@iamironclaw
@iamironclaw 8 жыл бұрын
MyEyesBled I bet it is, I prefer dogs (or any animal) over humans.
@outlander234
@outlander234 2 жыл бұрын
Well makes perfect sense. Also they ended up doing three great movies, Holy Grail being my favorite, that thing is a masterpiece.
@ludodegroote3783
@ludodegroote3783 9 жыл бұрын
Damn she's hot !
@bocatadeclavos1274
@bocatadeclavos1274 9 жыл бұрын
No she isn't
@dwlock100
@dwlock100 8 жыл бұрын
+Kursed Yes she is! Would you like a 5 minute argument or, the full half-hour?
@bocatadeclavos1274
@bocatadeclavos1274 8 жыл бұрын
i think i'll start with a 5 minute argument and see how it goes but i want to make this clear: she definitely isn't
@danielthompson6207
@danielthompson6207 7 жыл бұрын
Kursed Now you're just being contrary
@alistairproductions
@alistairproductions 7 жыл бұрын
Ludo De Groote she's plain looking. Hot how?
@sesa2984
@sesa2984 Жыл бұрын
I love him so much I wish he came across as just a bit more likeable/wise most of the time. But who amongst us is? Would that I would put so much pressure on myself for instance.
@Pladderkasse
@Pladderkasse 8 жыл бұрын
Ken Clean-air-system...where have you been for so long??
@grimfate
@grimfate 9 жыл бұрын
Back in the day, I hated that he left Monty Python, but after watching season 4, I'm conflicted. I found little in that season to enjoy, so it's basically a matter of trying to answer, would season 4 have been as good as - or even better than - the previous 3 seasons if he'd stayed? Because if not, then I definitely would agree with him that the third season should definitely have been the last.
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