He is so honest and straight forward it is refreshing
@LetsGoMetsGo33 Жыл бұрын
Don’t forget funny!
@Will-nn3pb7 ай бұрын
i wouldnt say refreshing, id say because hes genuine you can trust him and like him for that...and his comedy 😂
@johnking51748 жыл бұрын
1:17 - So the first series of Fawlty Tower was in 1975 and he was paid £6,000 by the BBC for writing and performing in all that series. Taking inflation into account, that is worth in 2017 around £58,000 or $71,000. To think Jim Parsons of the Big Bang Theory gets paid $1 million an episode just shows you the difference.
@JonatasMonte7 жыл бұрын
Imagine if he were to marry and divorce then
@jameshatfield84106 жыл бұрын
Jim is on 300K an episode not a million
@finding_aether6 жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter. 6000 pounds he got in 1975 is worth 6000 pounds today. He cannot give the 10000 pounds he earned in 1975 to his ex wife and say it is 100k pounds. Thats shows you how corrupt the financial system is.
@johnking51746 жыл бұрын
Google and see Jim Parsons nets now around $900,000 per episode of the Big Bang Theory
@vanKrapfen6 жыл бұрын
Nope, that's not how it works. 6000 pounds in 1975 would buy assets worth about 50000 (according to Bank of England inflation averages) in 2017. As long as you don't assume that he's got 6000 pounds in 1975 bills stuffed under his matress or something but that he's invested it somehow, he'll now have around 50k pounds from that.
@bcfairlie14 жыл бұрын
I had the pleasure of meeting with Mr Cleese when he was last in New Zealand. What a wonderful, charming and polite man he is.
@starcraft907 жыл бұрын
He is absolutely correct when he speaks about that "bond" with the therapist. That is a key element.
@aaronwalderslade7 жыл бұрын
That's why you do prenups, regardless how unromantic it is. Just do it. Don't fall for the "If you really love me" bs. If you really love me, sign the prenups and protect me from who you might become. People change. Everything can change.
@TheBadElf6 жыл бұрын
Even then, prenups can be disputed in court.
@russiane.lection-hacker20576 жыл бұрын
Prenups are worthless. Judges shred them all the time. Seriously, something as feeble as: "I signed under duress, because he wouldn't marry me unless I signed that prenup" is deemed a valid excuse to ignore a prenup and fleece the husband.
@MikehMike012 жыл бұрын
@@russiane.lection-hacker2057 we live in an anti-male society
@Veliooon Жыл бұрын
dont get married
@jonathanfarley2023 Жыл бұрын
@@russiane.lection-hacker2057 It's really outrageous. It should be regarded like any other contract.
@ForceMaximus845 жыл бұрын
The same thing happened with my dad and his second wife. It went from both working together to her quitting her job to be a stay-at-home mom while signing checks in his name for crazy spending. Fortunately, my dad did the prenup.
@DeadlyDanDaMan9 жыл бұрын
If you are rich, you should have a prenup. If they say no, you walk the fuck away because now you know they just want your money, not you.
@w.d.c.66579 жыл бұрын
+DeadlyDanDaMan As far as I know modern courts prenup do not have long life.
@NikolaAvramov8 жыл бұрын
Really? How can a judge go beyond a legally binding document??
@NikolaAvramov8 жыл бұрын
TurboCMinusMinus This is beyond insane. I never knew it went that bad.
@NikolaAvramov8 жыл бұрын
TurboCMinusMinus According to this "legal practice"... I don't see why you shouldn't. Boy, am I glad to be living in a country with a more sensible legal practice. Then again, Feminists here are active in "updating" the marital law, so... I might just as well live in the States if I don't get married A.S.A.P.
@thebeststooge7 жыл бұрын
My late wife and I had a pre nup and we didn't think anything about it.
@rjkral6 жыл бұрын
For this, getting Cleese his own MICROPHONE woulda been nice
@rosysingh66995 жыл бұрын
😁😁😁😁😁
@jasminsterzenbach39423 жыл бұрын
you can correct the sound with a synth
@uwekamrad14282 жыл бұрын
He might have explained why jokes are funny.
@lewstone5430 Жыл бұрын
You didn’t need to hear this part, Robert.
@ge2623 Жыл бұрын
"You know why divorce is expensive? Because it's worth it"
@Thoughtcat9 жыл бұрын
Much more interesting on therapy than on "getting rich".
@moremerry576 жыл бұрын
Thoughtcat, really good assessment. * especially about “really wanting to” get better.
@glynmatthews6697 Жыл бұрын
I could listen to Cleese all day long - very very wise , and the interviewer is gorgeous too ❤
@QED_9 жыл бұрын
3:18 Cleese nails it completely with "10%" . . .
@moremerry576 жыл бұрын
Arbiter, actually, Skinner nailed it. Cleese just quoted him.
@ParkerAllen25 жыл бұрын
The Monty Pythons alumns are always impressive in how smart and articulate they are. Always interesting.
@EDarien9 жыл бұрын
I've dedicated my career to mental health. Sadly, that's an accurate number.
@ronaldtimmermann28559 жыл бұрын
+EDarien ..If that.. I concur wholeheartedly.. I worked as a psychiatrist for a lot of years.. Was better at diagnosis and psychopharmacology, than therapy.. still I think I shined compared to a great many of my colleagues.. Sad state of affairs.
@EDarien8 жыл бұрын
***** What an ignorant comment. Since you presume to know about me, how much do I make in a year? I'm willing to bet it's a fraction of what you think.
@writeract24 жыл бұрын
why did he pay her 20 million dollars with no children - he should have fought it every step of the way - that's beyond words.
@NeilTruick Жыл бұрын
They were married for 16 years. There was no fight to be had. Spousal support kicks in automatically at 10.
@beorlingo Жыл бұрын
@@NeilTruick $20 mil is bizarre though. I'd manage with half a mil not having to work a day for the rest of my life.
@davidoconnell4100 Жыл бұрын
She would have got half the accrued marital assets during the 16 years. So he accrued 40 million.
@lpsp4425 жыл бұрын
Gotta hand it to Tracy, she's a good interviewer. She actually gets the level John's operating on.
@thescowlingschnauzer7 жыл бұрын
How to actually get rich: work for a corporation that undervalues their recordings (the BBC); have a distribution company that will play the recordings until they are firmly planted in the American psyche (PBS); have a friend who is smart enough to buy the recordings when the corporation is about to wipe them (Terry Gilliam); have that friend have people who repackage the recordings into DVDs and use the internet as advertising. Then write a book and tour until you've paid for all your botched marriages.
@Leon_der_Luftige7 жыл бұрын
thescowlingschnauzer What? That happened? How do you know that?
@snoookie4566 жыл бұрын
clickbait title, but anything John Cleese says is pure gold...
@meyr1992 Жыл бұрын
he literally said in the video how to get rich
@jasonpatrick67959 ай бұрын
"How to get rich" starts at 1:50
@Blujonny113 жыл бұрын
The problem with the 'industry' of therapy is the ones who truly want to listen and 'empathize fully' will usually 'burn out' quickly in that industry. 'No one' is designed to 'absorb' thousands of people's individual emotional 'suffering.' That's why I believe the therapists are the ones doing all the talking. It's the only way they can survive in that industry.
@jackster1212 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely listen to his autobiography... and also Eric Idle's...
@mykimikimiky8 жыл бұрын
2:38 the best thing said
@siramea7 жыл бұрын
John's third ex-wife reminds me of a family friend who divorced his first and only wife. He said of his ex-wife, that she came into the marriage with just a fur coat* and left with everything. * in the 1970's fur coats with acceptable and fashionable.
@bargainboymakem17 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why he allowed this to happen. It's quite simple, don't marry when you earn such a massive amount and your partner isn't working, don't allow her to have any bills in her name and live your life happily. If she's insisting on anything other then she has a different game plan. My ex was extremely wealthy and I was happy to agree pre nups if we ever got married. I had no right to any of her wealth. I left with nothing except my soul intact. How many women in this world can say the same? Not many. How many Californian women...zero.
@PhoenixProdLLC6 жыл бұрын
Dave Bonski is #triggered.
@Interfaune5 жыл бұрын
Unusual to hear John Cleese talk about something like he actually cares.
@thomaselliott5739 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately when you move to the good ol' USA you fall apart
@curtisrobinson79623 жыл бұрын
John Oliver?
@PhoenixProdLLC7 жыл бұрын
This is great. He's really amazing.
@chriswilkes43502 жыл бұрын
Useful comments about therapy. Very insightful.
@denny4017 жыл бұрын
OK, but how did the courts come up with the $20m figure? They must have based it on something. They don't just look at people and 'guesstimate' what that person could be worth.
@Leon_der_Luftige7 жыл бұрын
denny401 Because in the US of A you can just sue someone and demand a random amount of money that you would like to see on your bank account. That's Murica for you.
@dmcd12486 жыл бұрын
You answered your own question. It's a "'guesstimate' what that person COULD be worth", not what they ARE actually worth at the time of judgment.
@russiane.lection-hacker20576 жыл бұрын
The court doesn't come up with any figure. The wife who's abandoning her husband does, and after some theater the court usually just signs off on it. The acronym is CEE : Court Endorsed Extortion.
@moremerry576 жыл бұрын
Neon Leon, your total ignorance of any law, especially CA’s - despite that Cleese just explained it - is nearly universal.
@cameronmilne35903 жыл бұрын
They don't look at what you have, they estimate what you could earn. Some states will look at your career, performance and the estimate the figure based on that. That's why these absolutely ridiculous figures come to be.
@adlozi7 жыл бұрын
my goodness, he is such a brilliant man and so unlucky in finding the real love. Damn gold diggers.
@davidoconnell4100 Жыл бұрын
Connie Booth was his co-creator on Fawlty. How's she a gold digger?
@Tobela_Studios7 жыл бұрын
Why the hell do you keep marrying??
@russiane.lection-hacker20576 жыл бұрын
Marriage is the triumph of imagination over intelligence. Second marriage is the triumph of hope over experience. -- Oscar Wilde
@Cryptonymicus5 жыл бұрын
@@russiane.lection-hacker2057 Third marriage is the triumph of delusion over reality. Oh wait, that's voting for Trump lol. Well, both.
@jellybeenn1213 жыл бұрын
And to the same type of woman.. two of his 3 wives were psychotherapists
@joakimandersson77698 жыл бұрын
I feel so bad for people who try to go see a therapist and end up seeing a psychoanalyst or psychodynamic therapist, and then go for years and years and years without ever improving. If only they had known that there's therapy that works and therapy that doesn't work, and that it doesn't have to do with the patient.
@allanward81946 жыл бұрын
You have no idea what you're talking about. Psychodynamic therapy is as effective, if not more so, than the phony cognitive behavioral schemes that try to pass for therapy. And there is no one therapy that works for everyone.
@pamelaharris5852 Жыл бұрын
infact he is talking about Psychoanalysis that is the whole point of what he is saying building up the trust takes years and a deep process within and the right therapist to align with in that process if it is not for you there is a free choice out there but listen to him carefully before making illiterate comments as Cleese himself puts it.
@joakimandersson7769 Жыл бұрын
It is very hard to engage in debate with people who comment random stuff, make up facts and statistics, and then like eachothers posts just because it gives them some internet legitimacy. Literally none of the things you write are true, and I urge anyone who's reading this to just do a couple of quick google searches. One needs to constantly educate and re-educate oneself to get rid of and free oneself from preconcieved notions or ideas, even ones lodged hard and deep. Psychoanalysis does not work in any way, shape or form and both Jung and Freud both say in their own books that they are just making things up and merely posit "interesting points of view". Psychodynamic therapy is sliiiightly more effective than placebo for some light mental health issues such as low to moderate depression, but has absolutely zero clinical effect on other conditions and issues. People enjoy these therapies because they feel safe, easy and comforting and because snake oil salesmen tell them that it works. But enjoying your treatment or feeling like your treatment is working is not the same thing as the treatment working. I don't even think people should take my own words or arguments for it, since there is absolutely no way for any of you reading this to verify the fact that I am a clinical psychologist and neuroscientist (which is the truth), because for all you know I am just a dude online saying that he's qualified. Ask a health care professional care provider in your area for real help. TL:DR Don't lie online, especially about important things like healthcare. Psychoanalysis does not work, and psychodynamic therapy only works for people who didn't actually require specialized care to begin with. If you are suffering from any mental health issues, please do seek help and please do make sure you get hold of a therapist and not a con-man peddling you what "sounds good" or what someone on the internet told you that you should get.
@franks80108 жыл бұрын
If he needed money, he should have signed autographs at conventions. That's how Adam West makes his money nowadays.
@lpsp4425 жыл бұрын
He could do, but isn't it a bit better to create something new and interesting in the long term for one's money?
@protorhinocerator1423 жыл бұрын
I'm going to quit my job because you're the main breadwinner. That sounds very specific and legal. I'm calling a divorce lawyer tonight while you still have a job. Oh and BTW I haven't made a movie in 12 years so legally you're still the breadwinner. I'm taking half your money.
@Johnbartheart8 жыл бұрын
Be careful out here in Cali!😳. He speaks the truth.....
@dontrelliommi26077 жыл бұрын
Brilliant
@darkfent8 жыл бұрын
Came for and advice on money, gained research topics for therapy
@dulynoted24277 жыл бұрын
Therapy is paying, to what a good talk with a friend who knows what their talking about for free. We all need someone to talk to. Unfortunately, not everyone can afford to buy it and not everyone has good intelligent friends to talk to in trust.
@dulynoted24277 жыл бұрын
Patrick DiPrimo When you got truly good friends who care, keep them. And since life is too short to fuss with fair weather friends, distance yourself or shed them all together. Good luck in your endeavors
@dulynoted24277 жыл бұрын
Patrick DiPrimo You're on your way!
@BLAB-it5un2 жыл бұрын
That 10% comment about therapists is just an opinion. I doubt there is any objective way to demonstrate if it is valid. But I suspect it is probably accurate. Anecdotally it is easy to conclude that most therapists have no idea what they are doing and I completely agree.
@CutterCo7 жыл бұрын
OMG, I could never move to California because of that legistlation. Imagine if I'd get rich and marry a hot blond (I'd take a brunette, too) and then she'd divorce me (actually, wouldn't mind a redhead either) and take all my money (how about green or blue, mmmm=) )!
@moremerry576 жыл бұрын
mmikkone, hahaha. Like you’d suddenly get all that money?!? You marry for hotness, you get just what you deserve. People like you are the reason these laws were written. Well, you, and greedy lawyers.
@shaneerasmus25913 жыл бұрын
She was a therapist , now she's a millionaire
@TheGava49 жыл бұрын
I'm sure cleese's ex is SOO happy he tells the world she's a gold digger
@thomassutherland98878 жыл бұрын
Give me 20 million and tell the world whatever the fart you want. I'll back you if you want. stand by your side and nod, with a "He's right!" sign on my chest.
@russiane.lection-hacker20576 жыл бұрын
@Thomas Sutherland - Or a t-shirt saying: I'M WITH PAYCHECK
@lisaburris90456 жыл бұрын
I'm sure she doesn't care. She has 20 mil. She didnt have any kids with him and she didnt have to work nor does she have to work for the rest of her life and her kids, grandkids get to benefit for a non related person
@bigchunk17 жыл бұрын
I should not have expected a "follow your dreams and work hard" answer like I did. I got a real answer instead.
@Leon_der_Luftige7 жыл бұрын
bigchunk1 Making your hobby effectively your job will cause lose of fun that you had when you didn't had to do it..... Working hard is the reason why so many people go mental after they realise no matter how hard they work: A) It will never be enough B) No one is going to thank you for your efforts and most importantly C) Now that people witnessed you actually working hard, they are going to expect the same level of commitment every single time. I may summarise: We're all doomed. ...Except you established that you won't the kinda guy who does chores like a donkey before people got to know you. I say less is more. If you need for example 1000€/$ per month for basic things but you earn twice that money... Then just work half the month.
@PhoenixProdLLC6 жыл бұрын
Dreidecker or work the whole month and save the extra.
@Wolfgangus_Theophilus6 жыл бұрын
Why was his divorce settled in California?
@bocckoka Жыл бұрын
It's not a sexist legislation - yes it is. Very much.
@vladtepes75394 жыл бұрын
female version is a ten secs vid containing the word marriage.
@tonylaughlin66636 жыл бұрын
why would he get married a fourth time??
@johnking51746 жыл бұрын
He met the right woman.
@SirKurtAffair Жыл бұрын
Send me all of your money, John. That would give me a great starting point.
@ricardolourizela59618 жыл бұрын
Prenup...?
@andydixon29803 жыл бұрын
It's totally unfair that John's ex- wife could get that much money out of him, and yet, contributed nothing financially.
@smc1942 Жыл бұрын
It happens all the time.😞
@i-a-g-r-e-e-----f-----jo--b Жыл бұрын
I got divorced in California and didn't pay anything. Get a lawyer?
@bensims75015 жыл бұрын
I need to renew my passport
@somnorila9913 Жыл бұрын
Of course therapy doesn't really work for many. It's not like any other medical profession, like a surgeon where the doctor gets in and does something. With therapy is more of a guide that may give hints from afar but you have to do the work, so you must want to fix your trouble which many times means touching on other faulty aspects that you may not see them as that or even like the status quo. In a way is like with going to church, plenty do go but few really understand the essence. Like in the movies or real life, many criminals are seemingly pious. Let alone that religion in itself is not so much about spirituality but about controlling minds of masses for political or financial reasons.
@adesorcuppy42253 жыл бұрын
£6,000,- for the whole first series of Fawlty Towers is charity to BBC indeed….
@jabba0975 Жыл бұрын
That was damn expensive therapy.
@d1ckyj0nes7 жыл бұрын
The video that could have saved Brendan.
@MrGraemeb20225 жыл бұрын
£20 million? Outrageous! What, in any universe, entitles a non breadwinner ( i.e invariably the wife) to this sort of settlement? And women have the immortal rind to claim 'equal opportunities! How many men get these sort of settlements when the circumstances are reversed? In a fair world you take a commensurate amount out to that which you brought in - or contributed. And if the line is 'I was raising the children', then an amount consistent with the salary the wife ( or house husband - FFS) would have been earning' should be paid. I'm pretty certain the overwhelming majority of the wives of these millionaire husbands wouldn't be earning the sort of money they end up with after divorce. It is little less than legal theft and it is scandalous that a man's life long earnings, based on his hard graft and talent should be awarded to a wife of a few years - or in some cases days! Therein lies the seeds of the death of marriage. And then the family. Then the radical feminists have achieved their aim. The destruction of the family - and what they think will be the end of 'patriarchy'.
@Cryptonymicus5 жыл бұрын
You clearly have some issues and should probably be in therapy to try and clear them up.
@MrGraemeb20225 жыл бұрын
@@Cryptonymicus I'd be interested to hear your views on this then. What particular aspects of my reply do you feel are unreasonable?
7 жыл бұрын
Mr. Cleese sees to the essence of life and cuts thru the absurd BS.
@Ericbryanmr6 жыл бұрын
He should also answer "how to loose your weath" I.e . By marrying younger women that he tends to do and yet he still walks around with an sense of intellectual superiority. I'm a huge fan of his comedy but I hate him on a personal level.
@redmed107 жыл бұрын
plenty of men do the same thing. ask Britney. Cleese you would have thought would have learnt his lesson after first marriage but now seems to be professional complainer.
@michaeledwards35782 жыл бұрын
Old goat
@APAL8806 жыл бұрын
it's not sexist john? yes it is.
@krisscanlon405111 ай бұрын
Fairly soon 😂😅
@SloppyDogRiddles7 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or is john cleeses neck very hypnotising
@erkjadrek28 Жыл бұрын
In northamerica everything is about how it looks. Essence doesn't mean nothing there, therefore, they are shallow. Not everyone but a lot of of them and insitutions are all like grumpy nuns.
@bhibhas94337 жыл бұрын
20,000,000 !
@jojojorisjhjosef7 жыл бұрын
His net worth is 10 million
@timpriddy3493 жыл бұрын
No woman is worth 20 mil........I dont care how good she was period
@stash.7 жыл бұрын
Isn't Cleese living by the border, doesn't his latino gardener know of any cheap hitmen?
@Leon_der_Luftige7 жыл бұрын
Looncan He could have afforded a good one.
@russiane.lection-hacker20576 жыл бұрын
His Latino gardener is an FBI snitch.
@lpsp4425 жыл бұрын
Woke take, Russ
@v8powerr7718 жыл бұрын
So all I have to do is change sex and move to cauliflowernia then
@joakimandersson77698 жыл бұрын
He is very clear with the fact that the law has nothing with gender to do. Just find yourself a rich woman and do the same thing ^^
@v8powerr7718 жыл бұрын
Joakim Andersson lol You think I wasn't trying haha sadly women are not that dumb like men though
@PHDarren7 жыл бұрын
I hear there's a woman in California with $20m who's single.
@v.a.993 Жыл бұрын
Did he cheat on the third wife?
@majow6 жыл бұрын
This guy definitely didn’t do it for the money
@Lisa-yc3vg3 жыл бұрын
How to get rich❓Easy,,, come from another country to uk and suck the benefits system , tax payers will foot a get rich life style , tax payers are in for a shock April 2022 ,
@NemeanLion-6 күн бұрын
“How to get rich”? You mean how to get poor.
@bobcherrypie54367 жыл бұрын
Gender equality my foot !! What about gold-digging men ?... this extremely woman-biased system is actually very condescending towards them, if you think about it
@thagamerzzz7 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA.
@lewstone5430 Жыл бұрын
Don’t get married.
@bastiaanvanbeek6 жыл бұрын
Well, talking to Americans about getting rich is a bit obvious. In general, Americans don´t care about quality over budget and pay-off. They want big budget and getting rich, and will do everything for that, even if it´s quantity. When Cleese makes a sincerely joke or general comment the American interviewer is only interesed or is only laughing because they get reminded of superficial(ly) American stereotypes that they only know. Deep socially, ideologal, philosophical or moralistic ideas and meanings are not known by typical American people. Only a small part of Amercian society (people) are interested in that. But you would not find that category in populair media taht often. Universities would be a good place for Cleese to talk, but then he would not reach a big audience. So, basicly it is nothing new i´m saying, but to reach a big audience and have influence you need to get superfially and commercial to a certain extent. You need to wach your sincerely attititude and personality, because it gets corrupted very fast in American media. Cleese does it well. He is intelligent, that makes it easier I think. Sorry for my lack of English, and i´m not anti-American or something. Just some views in general. Grtz
@nebojsa19766 жыл бұрын
No wonder American men these days don't want to marry american women. Common sense.
@user-uy6uc5ey5q Жыл бұрын
Its a tad disingenuous as he fails to mention the group effectively owned the copy-write to Monty Python as a brand (which they continue to do), and while the TV series didn't bring much income, they had reasonably substantial publishing deals for books and records, often just rehashing of material from the TV series, then on top of they had stage shows where they preformed sketches from said series. The BBC as far as I know never took any part of this income as they had no licensing agreement. Plus on top they had other writing gigs they were doing for other English comedy series and comics. As Cleese read law and graduated from Cambridge in '63 with a good degree, the idea he and the rest of the group were some poor helpless artists living on the poverty line is very much far from the truth.
@demongraves Жыл бұрын
Doesn't matter, that was still what he got at the time. The residuals and other earning opportunities came later. Similar to when a band "makes it big" and signs a major record deal. It may mean the start to something more lucrative over time, but if the advance isn't recouped via sales, then even the signing number is meaningless.
@user-uy6uc5ey5q Жыл бұрын
@@demongraves No, they got far more revenue from the books, records, stage shows and merchandising at the same time they were producing and filming the TV series and films. The BBC didn't a cut off this. The residuals and later income was all to come as well , particularly since later the BBC gifted the copywrite and only copies of the TV programs to the group. Cleese is being completely disingenuous about income from the Python brand during the time they were producing the TV shows. All of them were earning a comfortable income during that period, most of that money was from the side Python projects which the BBC never got cut of. You comparison to music contracts is completely moot as that wasn't the kind of deal they had with the BBC. The BBC was only paying them as writers and performers of the TV show, it didn't pay them an advance or anything like that.
@markorollo.8 жыл бұрын
never thought I'd have to moan about Mr C but moaning about earning £4000 in the late 60's for doing monty python bugged me, my mum got her first job around the same time and earned £260 a year, £5 a week, paid my grandmother for rent and food etc, bought clothes and other essentials, and went out partying on that, and still had a bit left over.
@Leon_der_Luftige7 жыл бұрын
But didn't he and the others have to pay for their productions partially themselves?
@Wienerblutable7 жыл бұрын
Happy to live in the country where you can keep your money, only the money you make after you are married gets split, in parts a judge decides