CdawgVA's response to the backlash regarding the latest Trash Taste episode about Attack on Titan

[@nagz7920]

That TT episode to me was the perfect representation of the Atack on titan fans over the years. We have Garnt whose after all these years is still hype for it, Connor watch it out of obligation and Joey who fell out of it and doesn't care. Nothing really controversial lol.

[@sushisashimi8320]

Yeah I don’t understand why people are so mad about their opinions. I’m sure there are lots of other people that think the same thing.

[@akamesb4540]

Yes is normal to grow out of a show, i think this is going a little to much again

[@ThatGuyYouSeeCommentingOnClips]

I genuinely thought it was the best Trash Taste in ages. It's felt to me like they've been running out of stuff to talk about, and this one they had a topic to riff off and it helped keep things interesting.

[@kelico8407]

Debating an opposing opinion to yours is healthy and probably what they expected, but some of the reactions from the fans takes things way too seriously.

[@MyMainMan90]

Sure I personally expected they all watched it, praised it and shitted on it equally but instead we got what you described. Still I was very shocked by the comments attacking them like why? If anything all those comments only work to add AOT fans to the list of annoying people. I also left a comment on there saying it was a good episode as it felt grounded in something about anime

[@thetcaseaway4306]

Connor has become the Trash Taste Drama defuser it seems. Considering he's streaming almost everyday, not that surprised I guess 😂

[@whitecoffee05]

always has felt like Connor takes the extra mile to defuse anything. even during podcasts he would go "now remember, we don't know much" or like "not saying it is about everyone or anything". lol cause he knows how badly people want to inject their toxic gotcha moments.

[@gundam42d64]

Which sucks as Conner did in fact watch the ending but still got heat from Joey. And to be fair Conner never been a super deep analytical style anime critic like ever.

[@Marnige]

​@@gundam42d64honestly joey never tries to please the audience. He sometimes says things so offhandedly because he doesn't give a shit. Like how he keeps on saying that it's funny when people gets pissed, or he does something just to piss off XXX fans/audience. Maybe he gave up on pleasing his audience after years of it. I don't mind his perspective, but he should know that he comes off very annoying when he does it.

[@WiredLain_]

I think people had more of a problem with joey than connor

[@RabidCupcake2010]

@@Marnige I don't find it annoying when he does it. People take anime opinions way too seriously lmao.

[@sanjeethmahendrakar]

Honestly the whole episode I just felt bad for garnt. It gave me flashbacks of when I would be excited to talk about stuff I like with others who also like said stuff but weren't as enthusiastic about it as I was.

[@Originul_]

Well, as Connor just said, Garnt knew about Connor's feelings about the series and wanted to talk about it. So, with him knowing how Connor already felt about the show, which was "It was alright." He should've known how that would've gone, and he should've also checked to see if Joey had watched it or not, so he wouldn't be even more disappointed. So, you really shouldn't have felt sorry for Garnt because he knew what was going to happen and wanted to make the TT episode about it anyways.

[@solymossyakos8526]

I feel bad for Garnt, because nothing the other two said made any sense. Their takes were either something you would just roll your eye around, like the naming convention thing. And when they are trying to critisize something about it, they bring up straight up incorrect facts, that actually make the show sound worse. While they are just desperately trying to avoid the topic, causs they dont care. So no, their takes can not be taken seriously at all, which is sad for Garnt, who would want to discuss it. But in garnt, it was a bad idea to even bring up, ad it is clearly seen they dint care, and probably not payed attention during the last 4 seasons

[@Originul_]

@solymossyakos8526 I think it's perfectly valid of them to hate and be frustrated with the naming/titles of seasons 3 and beyond for making it overcomplicated, instead of just going with seasons 1-5/6 with no parts. It especially gets confusing in the last couple of seasons/parts, and it is even more confusing when it's been a while since you last were caught up. Connor is also known to be forgetful with everything. So, with him being naturally forgetful, the names getting unnecessarily complicated to keep up with, the hype keeps dying down quickly because each release is a small/short part that keeps people's interest for only a short while, and lastly, Connor hasn't rewatched Attack on Titan much or hasn't whatsoever, which makes remembering things throughout 10 years for forgetful person understandable fine. Joey's case has no real defense. It's just him wanting to be different and do things at his own pace even when his friends want him to watch it because they're excited to talk about it, but he ignores it anyways and doesn't care at all and just wants to be a contrarying, like with what happened with Arcane. I will say, in Joey's defense, this time Garnt abruptly wanted to talk about Attack on Titan because Connor told Garnt before the podcast that he wasn't that interested in AoT anymore, but what he should've done instead was to have everyone rewatch the entire series and finish it for an Episode of Trash Taste later on, so they all can actually discuss it and everything freshly in an episode instead of an abrupt Episode, where they can't discuss any spoilers/details about the show without hols back. TEDTalk down...

[@Marnige]

​@@solymossyakos8526joey said he wants to rewatch the entire series again to catch up. Because of how long and convoluted the series was, it was obvious that people just don't remember what the fuck happened in earlier seasons. So connor would naturally have a hard time following too.

[@irecordwithaphone1856]

I just think this is a big non issue

[@rayc7914]

I always felt a part of the audience had the wrong expectations going into these videos. It's Trash Taste, not BestAnimeTakes

[@sans7591]

It was the entire episode dude and it wasn't good, when garnt was carrying it throughout, at the end of the day there were a lot of things wrong with that episode, Joey was just annoying, Conner felt like he needed subway surfers gameplay underneath to even be in the conversation and garnt carried

[@rayc7914]

@@sans7591 Joey's take is objectively wrong because he did not commit to gathering any evidence to back up his claim. But, it is also objectively immoral to associate what Joey did as a massive sin. He stopped watching something he doesn't enjoy anymore and gave a bad take on bad grounds on something casual. That's all there is to it.

[@secondeye1574]

Woah dude you're so smart. I never realized that everything they say we can just assume is incorrect and therefore there's no standards. Genius move.

[@amazingpen7059]

@@rayc7914 Yeah. It's really not that serious. Connor literally says it's something Garnt decided they should talk about just before they started recording. It's not like they said a week before "Let's watch the finale and discuss it next episode" with Joey deciding not to bother. Do people just want Joey to sit there and not say anything for an hour? Do people want Connor to remember every detail over the last 10 years? You know they watch a lot less anime these days. They perhaps should've moved on from the topic sooner, but the backlash they are getting is downright ridiculous. Be constructive and suggest, sure, but coming from the subreddit and reading comments here now... it's straight up aggression.

[@rayc7914]

@@secondeye1574 You don't have to assume they're incorrect, but do have to recognize that them being incorrect is not a big deal.

[@karlsangalang1623]

this is just my speculation about this whole thing but i think they didn't really planned on any topics during the recording of this and Garnt immediately thought that AoT finally ending would be an obvious one and he probably wanted to talk about it like how he talked about the Final Eva Movie waaay back and mistakenly assumed that Joey had seen it. It was just unfortunate that Joey hasn't got to it and Garnt seemed like he just really wanted to talk about it.

[@gundam42d64]

Yeah don't know how the episodes are planned but maybe the choice in thumb nail wasn't best. That or Garent should've waited till Joey should've finished it. But Joey was of the mind of rewatching the whole thing to get to the ending which amounts to him simply not watching it anytime soon.

[@btchiaintkidding7837]

man became a successful anituber just so he could talk about anime now he reached the peak and his colleagues bhddies dont even watch anime lmao

[@ls200076]

​@@btchiaintkidding7837 Live of an anituber

[@royalfun1031]

​@@btchiaintkidding7837burn out

[@gundam42d64]

@@btchiaintkidding7837 I mean it isn't exactly a secret as both Joey and Conner actively say they simply watch very little anime at all which is fine whatever. I just feel not doing your homework on the biggest anime of the decade is a bit much. Like if there was only one anime to finish this year and nothing else attack on Titan. Would be it.

[@caleb_riordan]

I swear I remember connor saying S4 part 2 is so good when it was airing so I was quite confused by the TT episode

[@birdkio20]

He was hyped then, when he watched, but lost the hype overtime, something that happens and is normal.

[@secondeye1574]

@@birdkio20 That's not what he said though. He actively said he disliked part of the story that he enjoyed rather than being truthful, self-aware and mature by saying "I'm just not invested in the story anymore"

[@birdkio20]

@@secondeye1574 If that's what he really said I still don't think he did anything wrong, you can say you dislike something now even if at the time you watched you enjoyed it.

[@caleb_riordan]

@@birdkio20 I understand if he lost interest in what came after S4 P2 (although I cant relate at all) but he contradicted what I remember him saying about S4 P2 particularly. Went from its "so good" to "it was boring". So which was it?

[@kerrrobertson3699]

@@secondeye1574 the story is ass and literally doesn't make sense beyond that point so idk how anyone could be invested

[@pa5838]

I think the problem was that the episode was titled "The Biggest Anime just Ended" with AOT in the thumbnail, then you watch the video and it's 50 minutes of them skirting around spoilers and not really talking about it because Joey didn't watch it. It is what it is but I can understand the frustration. They even changed the title now so I guess they didn't like either how they phased that.

[@opman6242]

Idk about you guys, but I think it's funny that the biggest drama that trash taste ever faced is an anime finale that two host don't vibe with it.

[@cantinadudes]

Itrs not that joey didnt vibe with it, he straight up didnt watch it yet he still trash talked it. Thats like squidward trash talking the crabby patty despite never even trying it. Its obnoxious behaviour. Connor at least saw it, and i think everybody can respect his opinion then because at least he actually knows what he's talking about.

[@staticchimera44]

@@cantinadudes Joey never once trash talked the ending. He only trash talked what he has seen, which is perfectly valid.

[@kerrrobertson3699]

@@cantinadudes pretty sure joey has read the ending anyway

[@cantinadudes]

@@kerrrobertson3699 that would explain why he's trash talking aot despite loving it before, the manga ending was really rocky (not bad but casually reading through it didnt give you a good experience)

[@jokerryt2503]

he hasnt @@kerrrobertson3699

[@Quilly_DM]

I feel like Attack on Titan is the kind of show that if you sat down and watched the whole thing in like one or two sittings, the show would be phenomenal. Yet for most of us who have been watching it off and on for over the course of 10 years it's much harder to appreciate everything. Especially since between each season/part there was always a shit ton of dead air which took the wind out of most folk's sails.

[@JohnboyTheGamer]

If someone sat down and watched the whole thing, they'll see why some calls the ending bad. The journey is amazing, but there really is some things not as set up as other parts of the anime.

[@btchiaintkidding7837]

honestly, if anything it is kinda great oppurtunity to rewatch it. i kinda fell out a bit few years ago and then did a massive binge with couple friends basically forced them to watch it(they loved it no worries) and was surprised at how much i enjoyed the rewatch , honestly the show has so much foreshadowing and setups and stuffs it builds up nicely, shame that lots of people are gonna never experience the series in that way

[@paulcoffield2102]

Fortunately, people who decide the binge watch the entire series in future won't have to endure the inane arguments about season titles and stupid comparisons to the Fate series.

[@akamesb4540]

For me at least, i am enjoying rewatching it, i like mostly the 3 season, but during season 4 i think part lf what made people fell out of it was the whole problem with the comitee, time with the studio and parts, now that is complete it can be easier but to complete it but a lot of people felt weird cause of how was been paced.

[@maximusthedude8305]

Not an attack on titan watch but personally I recommend rewatching old seasons when a new one comes out for pretty much EVERY anime with more than a year between seasons. I have a really good memory but even I forget a horde of details over that time, and if it's something really plot heavy then sometimes you kinda forget why you even originally cared about a show when you start a new season. More typical shows are at least written with this in mind - anime is 90% of the time written as manga, which works on a continuous release schedule, and then adapted into chunks based not on narrative but the time those chunks take up. So, it's no wonder that sometimes starting a new season of an anime seems like jumping into the deep end when you've forgotten how to swim

[@blackshadow7214]

my "problem" (it's barely even that) is not that they had different opinions on the show. i was looking forward to seeing how they all felt. it was that garnt was really the only one who had anything to say for like half the episode. they put eren in the thumbnail and titled the episode "the biggest anime has ended" so i was kinda hoping for interesting convo about the ending. instead we got an hour of nothing interesting being said so the episode was boring.

[@pond9875]

Joey The Man strikes again. It's just typical Joey stuff nowadays. I remember a clip from his stream where he automatically called this anime shit, when asked if he watched it, he said no. I still like him though, but if it anime related stuff I'll just go to Garnt for that.

[@endlessjjdjdjjdjdjddmdndnf3902]

sadly this is true

[@hornitako7006]

I got whiplash seeing Connor from a year ago, his hairline situation is going well for him now

[@jb0258]

Wonder what hes doing to help it... asking for a friend 😅

[@shadmanbashar6067]

when you have money, hairline problem isn't a problem.

[@Whatth3Games]

​@@shadmanbashar6067ask logan and jake,they are richer than connor but are balding day by day

[@mannychen]

​@@jb0258I'd say the difference is just in the styling

[@victoriazero8869]

Connor literally can't have hairline surgery

[@JiroAkito]

I'm just at the point where I don't really care what people think about the anime or manga I like. If there are people who likes it, that's good, and if there are people who don't like it, that's okay too. I just don't have the energy to convince someone to like what I like y'know

[@MrRenanHappy]

Before I pressed "read more" I thought you were going to say "I don't have enemies"

[@ronmanvici8371]

Definitely, AOT is one of those anime that we're going to be a hot topic for people to recommend in the future. Just wait till the hype's gone and everyone will not care about talking the ending then

[@itsaUSBline]

That's generally a healthy attitude to have about pretty much anything.

[@Mr_Myst13]

Unfortunately this is the internet lol

[@punpun7164]

If only there were more people like you man

[@billk516]

The mistake was dedicated an hour to AoT when only Garnt cares about it

[@SpicyChimkinSammie]

I don't think people were upset with Connor per se. It's Joey they're mad about, cause he was shit talking AoT without having even watched it in his usual "I'm too cool for anime" facade. On the surface, it felt like Connor was taking Joey's side when in reality, he was kind of just indifferent the whole way through.

[@FirstLast-uj9ud]

Oh people were absolutely upset at Connor because his opinion was "wrong." As for Joey, I don't understand what people mean when they say he was "talking shit." He gave his opinion on the release schedule of the final season--which, valid, imo, I also completely lost interest in AOT after they split it up into 5 cours and haven't finished it yet either--and where he did give an opinion it was about the series as a whole (which he has seen), not the ending specifically.

[@ratdoto2148]

Connor's disinterest seems genuine, Joey's does not.

[@birdkio20]

I'm sorry, but I don't remember Joey talking shit about what he didn't watch, he only talked shit about the naming convention (which is understandable) and some parts of AoT that he did watch. Also in this episode he never put this "I'm too cool for anime" facade, he stated that he lost the hype (something that Connor also said), but will get to it eventually. So, once again, it's just Joey haters looking for reasons to hate more. And no, there were people upset with Connor too, but it was basically AoT fanboys getting salty because he didn't care that much for their favorite anime.

[@neilmacartney8972]

Most people mock the aot anime cuz it pisses of the fans very easily I've never seen an anime fandom get more defensive or offensive than the aot fandom death threats to the author, shitting on people who liked the ending, wishing death on other fans and cast members The amount of shit the va for Gabi got all cuz she voiced Gabi and nothing else Ik anime fandoms can be bad but the aot fandom is something else it makes the worst parts of the mha fandom, big 3 fandoms and dragon ball fandom look like angels from the heavens

[@kerrrobertson3699]

​@@neilmacartney8972you're so right. They make scum look like angels

[@randiaditya1126]

yeah, i figured it's not a planned episode since it's not fully dedicated to only Attack on titan

[@MelonWaterMelon777]

Even if it was not planned they shouldn't spent an hour talking about AOT when Joey hasn't watched the ending. The second half of the pod was way better. They could've talk about AOT later ep

[@Steve-xo5pq]

As I've said, I agree that Joey's pretentious contrarian thing is annoying, but I disagree with the idea that "Joey should have watched it for their AoT episode." As they have said many times trash taste is not really an anime podcast. They talk about whatever they feel like talking about, and sometimes it is anime. People are acting like anime is their main thing, and this was like an official review or something. They were just talking about how they feel about it not necessarily the content of the show itself. Its perfectly valid, like Connor, to lose interest because the sporadic release schedule of the final season. Personally I stopped watching toward the end of the third season. I'm probably going to rewatch from the beginning at some point, but for people who lost interest, I get it.

[@MelonWaterMelon777]

@@Steve-xo5pq If they don't want to talk about anime anymore it's even better. I'm not even an anime fan myself. My point is if Connor and Joey doesn't wanna talk AOT, don't spend an hour talking AOT. Like I said the second half of the episode was much better. Do that, instead of forcing AOT talk title and thumbnail for the algo boost

[@mentosdesu6888]

​@@MelonWaterMelon777preach brother they should choose other topic and video title

[@notaspeck6104]

I don’t think it’s the fact they didn’t like the final or care much, it’s that they really didn’t separate their personal biases (apart from grant). I mean Joey didn’t even watch the final and just complained about the naming conventions…. it comes off as irritating. If Connor had said exactly what he just said I don’t think anyone would’ve had a problem lmao

[@WiredLain_]

I think people had more of a problem with how Joey was acting rather than Connor. People were definitely mad at Connor tho.

[@RecordToDeathToBoredom]

I mean, in the end, it's always good to engage with your audience. It's really more of an opportunity than anything, really. I'm still not going to watch the episode, but it's great that Connor gets the chance to talk about things to clear things up and people can understand.

[@williamhardee8863]

I wasn’t too hyped for the latest part either, with how drawn out the releases were, I only knew the episode came out because of KZbin videos, so I was feeling the way Connor was, but I just put the episode on, and it took literally only 1 minute to get back into it. I don’t really have an issue with Connor/Joey’s opinion, I just feel like the reasoning for their opinion is just kinda silly. Also when it comes to Joey, he always decides to stop enjoying something out of spite, and I hate when people do that.

[@secondeye1574]

Well also it's just weird to talk about the prolonged release over and over. I don't know if you have seen JOJO, but a similar thing happened there and so many people in every discussion thread would just whine about how unenthusiastic they are. It's like ok say it once and move on, or just say "I don't really care about the show anymore". That's fine! But it's kinda disrespectful to insult the whole anime as if the people working on the show have any control over its release schedule. Not to mention the past they have all said "Attack on Titan will be a classic no matter how it ends" and then when it comes up the two of them aren't self-aware enough to realize where their negative feelings are coming from

[@pcenero]

Additionally, the title and thumbnail is just misleading as heck.

[@RomnysGonzalez]

Me and all my friends dropped the series at S4 with all the branding and separate releases. We just stop caring. They shot themselves on the foot by doing that and killed the whole momentum the series got in 2019 with S3

[@XDGamer88]

​@@RomnysGonzalezyou and your friends are not even 0.1% of everyone who watched the show It's better enjoying s4 than overhyped anime which never live up and get stale quickly like JJk

[@williamhardee8863]

@@RomnysGonzalez There was a production reason why all of that happened, for some reason Attack on Titan has always had issues with its production. That’s why it took years for season 2 to come out, why season 2 was only 12 episodes, and why WIT dropped the show after season 3. I’m pretty sure originally the reason why they called it The Final Season was because they were gonna rush through the ending, but Mappa decided to take their time with it.

[@_m889]

At the beginning Garnt said that they started to talk about aot because Connor brought it up before stream, it's not a surprise that garnt and Connor were the ones doing most of the talking. It was likely Connor asked them if they had watched the last part which then sparked the thought of talking about it on stream.

[@The_Foil]

Joey kinda ruined the episode ngl, giguk was the one carrying the episodr

[@jaydenng7431]

To be fair a lot of hype died down since a lot of people thought it was going to finish rly quickly and not having 3 parts and a movie. Although I did enjoy the anime taking its time a bit of the hype died down since I kept going in with the expectations that season 4 wouldn't be 3 parts

[@ishoto]

"Joey is just The Man" now lol

[@aussieboy4279]

I think more people just had a problem with just how much of a nothing burger the first hour of the episode was. Because Joey hadn’t watched it they had to skirt around spoilers mostly and it just led to a very lacklustre discussion about the literal biggest anime ending. It didn’t help Joey just constantly kept bringing up the naming conventions which added nothing to the conversation because that joke has been done to death at this point by everyone in and outside the fandom and added literally nothing to the conversation. Connor’s takes were bad but I mean we expect that out of Connor and at least it added something to the discussion. The first half just wasn’t a very good trash taste episode and I think it’s fair for ppl to voice criticism about that.

[@mendo5459]

I kinda felt the same. I was really into it but have now lost interest. I think it's also to do with how they've ended it. The final season part 1, the final season part 2 ect ect. It just feels like they dragged it out by doing it like that. If they did it in a normal format like a season 5 then it might have been different

[@manaka-chan8907]

As someone who’s been here since s1 ep1 aired, the only reason I watched the finale was bc I got this far (and it was first anime/manga). It lost its hype for me ages ago tbh. Probably bc the final season in 2020 made me mentally prepared for it to end. Waiting an extra 3 years and splitting it all up made me disinterested.

[@The4leggedpirates]

ima say once again i could care less about Connor losing interest. i just get annoyed that joey never has anything to say about most shows mainstream or not... and when he does have an opinion its something patronizing like shiting on Shonen. and i will die on the hill that naruto and bleach have more than just big explosions and cool transformations..

[@Ariel_Lord]

I kinda agree with Connor on this. I started watching AOT back when S1 had just ended and had a blast binge watching it. Then I picked up S2 4 years later and binged watched it too but was somewhat lost on what was happening cause I'd forgotten most characters. Then 2 years later, I tried watching S3 but decided to drop it halfway cause it looked like I needed to re-watch it all again to properly understand the story. I haven't picked it up again since but now that its finally ended, maybe I will. Tho I certainly don't feel any rush to do so kinda like Joey. Connor also said that people's tastes change as they grow up/move forward in life which is true. I certainly don't enjoy ecchi harem anime now nearly as much as I did a decade ago. Its not realistic to ask fans of any show to keep liking it after 10 years, no matter how good it gets.

[@jianyuyj2016]

I agree that the intricate plot of aot does require a coherent understanding for any previous seasons before watching the next one..

[@joebidenjr5902]

People were not mad about that though. If you title a video “Attack On Titan” has finally ended. People expect some form of discussion. Which was not there at all and the whole thing felt pretty half assed

[@secondeye1574]

Huh, none of this has anything to do with his point. Or the situation at all. I don't get why this video has become a therapy center for people who fell out of love with the series or never connected with it to vent when nobody asked

[@MonaryMenos]

@@secondeye1574 I don't get why the TT video on AOT has become a center for people to shit on Joey and Connor for being so BASED

[@secondeye1574]

@@MonaryMenos You're not even convincing yourself with that zinger, buddy

[@thomasffrench3639]

I feel like people forget that Connor isn’t really an analyst like Garnt or Joey. He just likes to talk about anime.

[@RabidCupcake2010]

Garnt and Joey aren't really analysts either lol

[@thomasffrench3639]

@@RabidCupcake2010 they definitely are tho

[@savio953]

@@thomasffrench3639u talking bout joey ?? The guy who just yapped about naming conventions for half an hour because he couldn’t contribute anything else ???? He’s an analysist???

[@thomasffrench3639]

@@savio953 have you seen his old videos? Sure he’s a little rusty, but he generally has a solid grasp of analysis

[@kurokun07]

​@@thomasffrench3639i will agree on this, joey used to analyse shows, although his analyst is nothing groundbreaking compared to the anitubers today, man generally has good points and facts to back up for a show when he wants to

[@Nicole_whatsgood]

Most people didn’t have an issue with Connor’s take, not everyone has to like everything. But Joey talking so confidently and shitting on aot when he didn’t finish it and forgot half the plot points was really annoying

[@quantumwitcher9376]

Connor flip flops every other second. That's the issue. Man is so inconsistent

[@TheAdminSlayer]

How did Joey shit on aot besides saying he lost interest? Don't get me wrong I usually disagree with Joey but losing interest is a valid take.

[@catdblood]

​@@TheAdminSlayerI think it's because he didn't finish it and he started bandwagoning Conner's points when Joey hasn't even finished it.

[@itsjustvin7630]

​@@quantumwitcher9376oh so hes human

[@quantumwitcher9376]

@@itsjustvin7630 he's a massive contrarion. Dude will go against what's being said because it's one of his personality traits lmao

[@alphakowaclips]

Oof, people need to learn that the boys don't always plan their episodes unless they got guests 😂

[@blebikkun]

but bruh it's attack on titan.. You shouldn't even plan talking about it. It is like expected that you would watch it even as a simple anime fan, or at least give it a good try (hi Joey). That's almost a bare minimum for every person, who watches anime, to watch AOT

[@zeraphos5586]

@@blebikkunWTF.

[@SuperDio58]

​@@blebikkunah yes the rules that the one true god bestow upon us, everyone who have watched even a single second of anime should watch AOT...

[@Rageouz]

​@@blebikkunwhat a dumbass take. I'm still never gonna watch aot

[@hellidius453]

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[@Stift12]

i care so little about aot that this episode is the first one i skip completely. feel weird about ppl who complain about ppl loosing Interest.

[@Totaldeltako]

I watched the final episode about a week after it came out. I had lost interest because of the gaps between content keeping me in and the fact that I not only knew the ending but was also pissed at the teasing of the "Final" part getting dragged out. I'm not gonna lie though, I teared up some at the end when all the scouts and Sasha appeared. I get what Connor is talking about though.

[@AlexanderFromTheStarDimension]

I think a lot of people were angry Joey didn't do his homework for the AoT episode, but Connor just adequately put that to rest by explaining that they only decided that the podcast episode would be about AoT two minutes before it began. Knowing that, we can excuse Joey and Connor, because they didn't have anytime to prepare. While it was all still hot in Garnt's mind. If ANYTHING, the REAL sin was that these guys did a spontaneous impromptu AoT episode... if they wanted to make a video called "The Biggest Anime Just Ended" with an AoT thumbnail, then the three should have finished the show and planned what they'd discuss ahead of time. So the issue isn't how the three were acting/discussing, it was their lack of planning and spontaneity. HOWEVER, I still enjoyed the latest TT episode a lot. Their whole spiel about naming conventions was hilarious. Honestly, the three can make up for this all by just making a follow-up video, with Connor and Joey having completed the series.

[@fictionarch]

Honestly it just sounds like the problem is that talking about it was a last minute choice that two of the 3 weren't ready for. Guess shit just happens.

[@MarcoBayod_MB]

The problem was not that he liked or not, was how really bored and not caring at all about the TT episode in itself, Garn was basically carrying the episode alone, talking about anime endings can have so much to talk, but none of them even cared to bring material for that topic, like in the episode about their top anime or their top manga.

[@BigAl2-u7e]

Yeah, how dare they not bring in material to talk about a topic that was decided 2 minutes before they started recording.

[@MarcoBayod_MB]

@@BigAl2-u7e Garnt literally paused the recording searching for a list, they could have take 10 minutes each to make their own list or points on this, this is not just 3 dudes talking, this is their job, there is a moment where Conor laid back, put his arms behind his head and stopped participating. Weird on Joey not watching the episode, again, this is their job and everyone there did a really bad job on this episode, including obviously the bad time framing to prep the episode

[@BigAl2-u7e]

@@MarcoBayod_MB Not watching the episode? You do realize that both episodes of Final Season Part 3 are 72 minutes each? How do you expect Joey to watch several hours worth of content and come up with a list of endings in like 12 minutes? Not only that but they talked about several endings in the episode anyways. Damn, I feel like people just want to hate for the sake of hating. Yeah, how dare they not make better preparations for a topic decided only minutes before recording. Y'all are some wack ass mfs.

[@Wonder7771]

​@whishiwhooshi5783 Dawg no one is forcing them to make the topic about it lmao

[@BigAl2-u7e]

@@Wonder7771 Except that the topic was thrusted onto to Connor and Joey last minute. If you really want someone to blame, then blame Garnt for choosing a topic that niether Connor or Joey were fully prepared to talk about in depth.

[@rocketeer101]

I think it wasn't much about the take. They've been saying too much hot takes, even Garnt and Connor, probably even more. Yet it was only now that it generated this much drama lol. What people probably hated was the fact that they anchored the episode on the ending yet only Garnt prep'd for the episode. Even Connor feels like he was just winging it. And Connor usually follows up with good topics, even though he fumbles with the hot takes, which was actually funny.

[@florzy]

I wasn’t really hype before watching it because how long it took. But when I started watching I immediately got into it I guess for him it didn’t play out that way

[@jonesy6962]

I kinda lost interest in the plot when the rumbling happened. The biggest draw for me was the mystery. The show kinda ended for me on the season 3 finale. Season 4 was really cool and hype but i wasnt really invested

[@ltb1345]

The series maybe should've ended when the rumbling began.

[@jonesy6962]

@@ltb1345 yea tbh i wouldnt have minded just seeing them march off into the distance and the rest being implied.

[@hectora.3220]

Shingeki was just an allegory for japanese warcrimes with time travel

[@Kunoichi4ever4]

Ofc peoplea are gonna get mad, AoT is kinda a political anime so many people did get invested into it above just entertainment. Id even say the closer you are to an actual war, the higher probability is you are gonna be unhealthily invested in the show. And I am saying this coz before the war started in my neighboring country - AoT was a just good show for me, s04-end is tho when I started to have the active threat of Vladimir Yeagar above my head, I started to appreciate the story a lot more and it became my all time fave. In the end the message of the anime wont resonate with everyone, but since it is heavily political and discussing really difficult issues, if it does resonate some peopel will go a bit over the board defending it.

[@jackmayor3574]

Above entertainment? That's embarrassing. Attack on Titan's politics are so shallow and pedestrian. Which is fine for an anime, but good lord comparing it to real life...

[@Kunoichi4ever4]

Sure sure Mr. Political Scientist, I know some politicians if you truly think its deeper than money and ego, you dont know people.@@jackmayor3574 We can all talk for hours about complexities of human psyche, but the fact is you disagree with me over BS, you nor I are Isayama nad fully understand the complexities of the story or human politics yet we are here arguing meaninglessly, because it is inherently part of human psyche to have an opinion, to pick a side, to fight. And as long as that exists, politics wont ever be as complex as you think they are. People dont need to know shit to decide which side they take, becuase most people are simple, pedestrian and shallow (as youd put it)- and I am saying this from a position of above-average IQ, so knowing this level of intelligence is what is seen above-average made me not expect too much from an average folk.

[@kiratwo4u]

​@@jackmayor3574 it's like comparing it of a muddy puddle to a swamp

[@jasonseacord]

I felt so sorry for Gigguk he was the only true fan

[@xcjsmith5310]

I guess this is growing up. Your taste in anime just changed, my anime taste definitely changed and compared to previous seasons, modern anime just feels saturated, there is just too much anime that the audience just feel generic

[@jordanjose6475]

So Conor is saying it’s Garnt’s fault that the episode happened

[@lettuce1626]

I really like these clips making all of the subreddit nonsense and then Connor calmly and clearly addressing what is going on He’s so good and addressing it and clearing up things without causing more fire

[@ultimateme3049]

I mean a lot of it was just obvious to me, people just lost (understandably) their minds

[@kiratwo4u]

​@@ultimateme3049 "understandably" oh so you guys bitching about their opinions, and not accepting their takes is understandable?

[@ultimateme3049]

@@kiratwo4u don't put words in my mouth I never complained about them. People who did complain were just annoyed that Joey didn't even watch the show and was complaining about it and that Connor seemed to have forgotten about it I don't agree with them, I believe what makes trash taste enjoyable is them saying what they truly think about. But I can understand looking forward to hear about a discussion only for one of the members to talk about his ass. That can be really disappointing.

[@aizoz650]

It's not even about AoT. The community seems really excited to see them talking about anime again, and AoT is the easiest anime for a topic. Seeing 2 of them didn't even bother to do easiest thing for the anime community that they're profiting from is just feels like a top 10 anime betrayal.

[@coldfire2753]

FACTS

[@icepenguin7278]

if u feel like betrayal because someone talked about something they didn't like idk what to tell u

[@aizoz650]

@@icepenguin7278 if u didn't get the joke, idk what to tell u

[@kiratwo4u]

​@@aizoz650 oh I'm sorry for my friend over, he just forgot to laugh

[@FrenchDinosaur]

To me, the episode felt just horrible to watch/listen to. It did not feel like amy conversation was had, instead it felt like Garnt was hosting a highschool presentation, and his audience (Connor and Joey) either is bored to hell, or did not even know what Garnt is talking about. We could say that there was a conversation, but it was not cummunicative. In other words, there was nothing exchanged there at all. I felt particularly bad for Garnt. He was so excited and enthusiastic to talk about it, but unfortunately the other two do not feel the same way, contrary even. I've always thought that Connor is the guy who has good movie/gaming takes, but really horrible anime ones. He just feels like he won't even recognize anything anime if it's not Jojo or Baki. That was why I can respect his behaviour during the episode, because that's how he's always conducted hinself. Joey however... He was just straight annoying during the episode. We get it man, you're too fucking cool for this mainstream shit, right? I just can't get over the feeling that if AoT is not as popular as it is, then Joey would have been all over it by now.

[@jala5080]

The backlash is manly because garnt fans talking shit about connor and joey and then praise garn, which is fair. But what u expect 2 years waiting to see the next episode. The hype momentum is already gone. Connor and Joey justified for have grow up and have different opinions too.

[@jokerryt2503]

agreed but Joey's attitude has a way of pissing people off even if he didnt do anything wrong

[@estevaoabel3439]

@@jokerryt2503well you can please everyone as they say

[@jala5080]

@@kaiultimatewaifu630 Absolutely. But when you first watch the anime in college, and then suddenly you have 2 kids and 1 cat in your life. the hype of the final season is not the same, man.

[@simplypablo6506]

God forbid a anime fan has a opinion

[@burezu9190]

Connor not liking an anime I liked? I am shocked, not like it happened with nearly every anime they talked about this year lol

[@santy6493]

What I really like about trash taste is that they’re so un controversial that dumb shit like this is considered some insane drama lol

[@Waeva777]

I don't really care what others think about AOT cause I know for me that it's the greatest anime that's ever aired. I can understand people losing interest tho, I was reading the manga up until Marley and then just stopped reading all together for more than a year, it's only after speaking to my sibling and them saying it's absolutely amazing, did I then go back and rewatch the entire anime a few months before the final episode came out. Since I did that I didn't have that long to wait between episodes and the hype wasn't dead

[@Headstockch]

it's mostly the same for me I was do into it when season 1 came out, read some of it, reading the prequel spin off light novel (telling the inventions of 3d maneuver, survey corps before the tool, lore of the "steel" they use) stopped after caught up on marley. After the first part of the final arc announced, I watched from season 2 (since only watch the 1st season, and read the rest) I can't think any ending that's more fitting than the current one, it's consistent tone and message that the show want to tell, with a little bit of closure. IMO It don't have to be an amazing, or surprising ending

[@unmemorablehero]

I think what upset me was that they FUCKING TITLED it as an Attack on Titan episode. So I clicked on it expecting them to talk about it…and 2 of them were just like eh whatever. I don’t care if they didn’t like it, I clicked on it for a long discussion, and it was like 15 minutes of barely a discussion, and then that was it.

[@yxungblxxdrxbin]

I think everyone's getting the wrong idea. People in the comments of the video where mostly criticizing the fact that the whole episode was extremely messy and was just Garnt carrying everything and not, "oH mY pArAsOcIaL." Just sounds like a bunch of ass kissing to me.

[@cecil_242]

wow people are really making a big deal out of this huh

[@siliconhawk]

You are talking as if internet drama is not funny. I have not watched said episode and just found there is drama going on, and NGL now I am invested. internet drama will never not be funny (as long as it stays on the internet you know and doesn't physically harm anyone)

[@RandomAutist]

I understand Joey's mantra with new anime, but sometimes.... you either play ball or make the topical episode a little later.

[@panpacifice]

It feels so weird that people are upset about an anime take and not when the guys are talking about other subjects they actually know nothing about 😅

[@Steve-xo5pq]

Ikr? My attitude is generally to not take things they say seriously because they are, for the most part, aware of their own ignorance, and they are just shooting the shit, but even I had to skip last week when they where talking about the influencers who where causing problems in Japan. Not only did they contradict themselves by saying "we don't want to give this guy attention," then giving the guy attention, but it really got on my nerves when they started speculating about why people do stuff like that and criminal justice and stuff. But ya know, everybody has their hot button things that they don't like to hear about, so I just skipped that episode, not a big deal 🤷

[@royalfun1031]

​@@Steve-xo5pqpretentious moment

[@marineadmiraljunior7904]

He looked so differently

[@guillermopena8412]

It is fair to call them out on the clickbait. If you it wasn’t a planned themed episode, don’t sell it as such. If you do, no shit people will get upset, you gave them the wrong idea! Oh, but I guess Connor just said “Lol” and everything is fine and dandy.

[@yepyep2762]

Man the comments in that trash taste video was a headache to read through

[@Red_567]

Right? I kinda want to say " ayo screw eren! " to trigger them more😂 some of them take things way too seriously.

[@estevaoabel3439]

@@Red_567 yoooo😂 that sounds fun, im gonna go do that actually

[@Gintokisama470]

@@estevaoabel3439 lmaoo and then watch them short circuit as they try to pull aot bible to correct u

[@Ragdefender]

That was well explained! While I don't share your opinion on AOT's season 4, no argument or debate should change the fact that you felt what you felt when you watched it.

[@Gintokisama470]

After everything that has been said (or will continue to be said), i hope this wont bring anything too negative and ultimately leading to disbandment of the group. Too many people are so sensitive about this show

[@alphakowaclips]

😂😂 Dude, it's just anime drama. The only people who care are the aot fans, not the boys

[@lank306]

The boys could care less abt what people say, much less anime fans. If something like anime "drama" was enough for them to disband, then the podcast woulda ended way back considering how many bad takes they have lol.

[@punpun7164]

Yeah I agree, anime fans gotta realize that people have different tastes. You talk badly about their fave show and they immediately bombard you with personal insults, like come on bruh as long time Trash Taste fans I thought we were waaaaay past this.

[@est02]

Its actually my first time witnessing the cancel culture at such scale. You scroll up and down through the entire comment section on that episode, going through every subsections and all you see is just sea of hate comments towards joey and connor. Shits funny af ngl😂

[@Red_567]

Why an earth would they do that? Because they upset some aot fans who can't take a opinion?!? These guys have been friends for years they won't disband for this silly reason.

[@darkdonzaloog]

its understandable people lost it with how long it took to wrap up and its probably the naming scheme that did it. If they just went S5 for these last two parts and not had final final season final part 51

[@GoldSlash]

The ending isn't really good. I get its people favorite, but the ending has so many plot holes and convenient writing. After reading it, I couldn't even watch it anymore. Is the animation good is the music good? Yeah, but I'd say season 1-3 were better, it's the writing the fumbles pretty hard.

[@Dan-Ky-Kang]

On another comment that you replied to, you explained the "plotholes" and the plotholes were simply things that are either self explained, and or DID get explained. I'm about to give a cliche response, but I think you simply just didn't pay attention, or understand. Like, you can still hate the ending. There are certainly things I don't like about it, but to say that were objectively many plotholes, yeah no, I think Isayama answered pretty everything that matters, even to his detriment.

[@lordtouchme77]

​​@@Dan-Ky-Kang what? There is so many plot holes that haven't been explained yet like how falco could mastered his titan power and fly in the sky with ease or that weird worm looking thing which is basically a plot device who only got used in the last eps, heck the creation of titan serum from marley side are still confusing af. We only know that they created the serum somehow without the founding titan all this time lmao. Don't get me start on eren motivation which basically confirms he doesn't even know why he do the rumbling in the first place which is dumb af considering he could see the future.

[@Dan-Ky-Kang]

@lordtouchme77 plot device =/= plot hole The source of all life worm being the narrative device it is, doesn't mean it's a narrative error. *The worm served it's narrative purpose* Same with Falco and the serum, as it's already been set up and ran with. Falco can control his titan the same reason a lot of the others can, plus the fact he trasnformed once already. So does that mean he can fly? Why can't he fly? Did he have a missing eye? A missing limb? What makes him unable to fly? You're grasping at gripes/nitpicks (that might not exist) rather than actual narrative errors, as the writer assumes that if you're in it for this long already, in a world of giants appearing out of thin air (and people just knowing/having the instinct to bite their own hands to trasnform) - the author kinda expects you to have some suspension of belief. The serum is pretty self-explanatory. If the thing that can turn people into titans is physically apart of an Eldian (the spinal fluid), why can't they just, idk, physically extract it using scientific technology??? Like, have you not been paying attention? They don't need the founding titan for that. Heck, they don't even need serums, as they can just cannibalise the spinal fluid. Eren literally tells you why he started the rumbling. 1. He saw the book that Armin gave him, interpreted that empty-but-varied world as "freedom", and when he saw the actual world riddled with conflict, suffering and despair, he was disgusted and disappointed with it. Hence the rumbling. But that was his initial rationalisation/the reason he gave for why, not what actually ends up happening because we KNOW he doesn't kill everyone completely. 2. He was "an idiot who got his hands on power" Him being a total mess during his talk with Armin, is because he is conflicted, not because he lost sight of why he did the rumbling. He first rationalises that he did it all for paradis, then his friends, and then for getting rid of the titan power - he keeps going back and forth - but in the end, we know his true reasoning is a bit of everything as that was the outcome in the end - making sure his friends live a long life of peace as heroes by getting rid of the titan phenomenon. Do people not know what "plothole" means anymore? The information that Isayama gives you is a lot more explicit than people would like to believe. I don't know why you people have this expectation that the series should be perfect, when no show is, and then actively go looking for inconsistencies in the narrative when there is little to none. It's self-fulfilling, confimation bias, braindead behaviour. The problem isn't the writing, intrinsically. The problem people have with the ending is that it was kinda rushed. And it is.

[@Dan-Ky-Kang]

@lordtouchme77 and overall, you're super tunnel-visioned. Like, you really saw a reply that you had no clue about, regarding its context, then think "oh this guy thinks AoT has NO plotholes"

[@lordtouchme77]

​@@Dan-Ky-Kang buddy you are the one who said isayama answered everything in your first reply in these comment section so i just give you list more than 1 plot holes that doesn't get answered and now you want to play it smart by not answering or counter my argument and calling me "tunneled-visioned" ? Lmao if you are dumb and can't prove my argument wrong then just say so

[@KaossFail]

I feel exactly the same as Cannor.

[@hijiriyukari]

Joey is becoming too normie for animated shows

[@bakailfrozen1944]

he just has anime burn out. it happens. he still has more anime shows watched than you probably and most of the anime fandom

[@Dreamer98-l9t]

Yes, normies 🤓☝️

[@zeraphos5586]

touch grass

[@lazz5207]

Not watching two episodes of aot is not becoming too normie for animated shows,

[@Whatth3Games]

​@@lazz5207i also hate how trash taste fanbase always complain but this is a reasonable take bro idk why you disagree with it, joey actively trying to shift away from anime culture and that's not a bad thing look up the Anthony Padilla interview with him then you know that the OP comment are not entirely wrong.

[@Dundun11]

I posed a comment about this on the trash taste episode and a little bit of traction for it. I honestly think right now the aot fan base is really toxic and can't handle anyone having a different opinion than what is mainstream right now. Everyone may say its because why dedicate a whole episode to it then? Why didn't Joey watch it? which were all the criticism tbf but even at the beginning of the episode with them being like "lets try not to go into too much spoiler territory. Set the tone that they weren't gonna have a crazy in depth convo about it. I think literally most of the hate was just fueled by people wanting to hate on Connor and Joey and now that its revealed that it was Garnts idea now everyone is switching up being like "Oh well it would have been nice you know for them to talk about it more in depth" when literally everyone was just being super fucking harsh to the two boys, like if you want good takes and amazing in depth takes go watch garnts personal video or literally any other podcast. This is trash taste not good taste as another comment down here pointed out.

[@waifummd777]

just a miscommunication between the fans and the editor, the title and thumbnail was clickbaity made u think they will discuss the ending, turned out Connor can barely remember it and Joey haven't watched it yet, they did change the title and thumbnail later. if u clickbaited people usually this is what would happen. regardless if its anime or not, The Tittle simply didn't match the content.

[@4rch0711]

People are fine with them even if they clown on it. People are not fine that they had an hour of just saying things that has no substance. Everyone could see Garnt wanted to open up some things about the show but was not given the chance because 'i could not give a shit'. If they didn't care then they could have at least let their friend say what he wanted.

[@Ludovit110]

Felt exactly the same way, but I'm happy for people who were stoked about it.

[@Pulpxx]

It was the same situation with me. Once AOT got close enough to the end, i was already converted to a manga reader and got to experience the ending there. It took the anime over a year to reach the ending itself when it was already so close. There was no way i was gonna stay hype for it especially after they kept splitting it into parts that cut into the momentum of the story and ultimately putting its end date into an unconfirmed time in the future.

[@24hr-Gaming]

Bruh that's why when stuff is split out like that you wait until the end and watch all of it. It's fair that Connor probably forgot a lot of the stuff from earlier which is part of why he lost interest. But judging anime based on hype alone and not the actual quality of the product, anime fans are weird af these days. Back in my days if you actually found someone who watched what you watched that was exciting enough.

[@Pulpxx]

@@24hr-Gaming Didn't say the ending was bad, I said by the time it finally released I had no hype left for the show.........and no one is waiting till the end to watch all of it when it's split up into parts like this. Especially attack on titan.

[@quantumwitcher9376]

I feel like part of this comes down to him being a contrarion.

[@Gaite4354]

Poor gigguk was so excited to talk, fuck Joey for contributing nothing.

[@RabidCupcake2010]

The AoT topic was unplanned, genius. How can he contribute when he hasn't seen it and Garnt brought it up spontaneously?

[@pisaupisaupisang]

Yeah and they say AOT fans ain't toxic.

[@waifummd777]

every fanbase has a toxic fanbase part of it even Berserk who i assumed only has mature audience also has toxic fanbase

[@coldfire2753]

they deserved the backlash, considering they clickbaited their audience and then 2 of them couldnt care less to talk about it. Any community would find that annoying, not just AoT

[@cluster4583]

​@@coldfire2753 you're speaking so much facts. I swear people in the comments of this video are trying so hard to completely make up a bad impression of aot fans. when most comment on the episodes are nothing like what people are trying to make it look like here.

[@yerip4657]

After reading all the negative comments in that episode I just feel disappointed on the community. Seeing all the disrespect and toxicity that people throw out when people don't say what they want to hear is embarrassing

[@coldfire2753]

Well next time they wont clickbait their audience. It doesnt make sense to center the episode around a show finale that only 1 host cares about. Connor and Joey desrved the backlash

[@yerip4657]

@@coldfire2753 they've always put the title of the main thing they will talk about, but it doesn't need to occupy all the episode. They talked about AOT like a whole hour, what else do you want. Still, the fact that Joey hasn't seen the ending is something many people connect with, as lots of people have lost interest on the last two long episodes. The fact that you are supporting and justifying the hate that they are receiving tells me enough about yourself.

[@coldfire2753]

@@yerip4657 Lol "Main thing"'. How is it the main thing when only one of them cares about it? They bearly talked about AoT for 40 minutes and half of that was dedicated to Joey and Connor bitching about MAPPAs naming of each season and spreading misinformation about the show, when they didnt even get most of it right. Basically half of their AoT discussion was just pointless nitpicking. It was disappointing because they rarely talk about anime at all these days, so when you give fans false hope with a big title like AoT and waste the episode, you get backlash. Regardless if Joey lost interest or not, he beraly added anything to conversation and acted smug about it the whole time, so no suprise people got annoyed with him the most. "The fact that you are supporting and justifying the hate that they are receiving tells me enough about yourself". Yeah yeah give me the whole "moral highgound" speech, I dont care. I will agree Connor probably doesnt deserve that much hate, even tho he had awful takes, but at least he finished it. Joey deserves everything he got. Being as pretentious and smug like he is about things he doesnt watch, he desrves to get clowned on.

[@yerip4657]

@@coldfire2753 Go touch some grass and stop liking your own comments

[@coldfire2753]

@@yerip4657 Great talk buddy 👍

[@DatBoi163]

dropped aot after like 2nd or 3rd season, i'll just wait for one of those movies recap but for anime so that i can catch up on the anime

[@_m889]

I've lost interest too for aot, i was excited and watched part 1 of season 4, then afterwards i just don't care. Especially when they kept coming out with more and more parts to the "final" season. I just don't care about the show any more.

[@arnavdahal3847]

I agree with Connor here. Aot just felt so dragged out like it shouldve ended like 4 years ago abut they kept milking this shit untill nothing was left. Honestly the best part of aot was when eren beat up armin. After that I stopped watching the anime cuz I had already finished the manga and it felt redu dent to watch a anime that God known when it would end.

[@zeph271]

people when TT doesn't have the exact same opinions as them: 😱😱😱🤯🤯🤯

[@mardshima2070]

I think it more about 2 of 3 host had no interest to talk about the topic, leaving only Garnt carrying the whole episode. There *lot* of people hate the ending. If they just simply hate AoT for the ending, lot of people will still like the episode.

[@RabidCupcake2010]

@@mardshima2070 Homie, they didn't plan to talk about AoT. You can't have a spontaneous topic like that and also expect everyone to be deeply interested.

[@rickyricardo9710]

weird, I can't understand how someone could lose interest in a story that previously interested them just because some time passed.

[@kairumasamune1992]

Bro the amount of people that get butthurt over their discussions about AOT is crazy. At the end of the day, some people will not see the way you see the show and that is fine because we all have different interests but that what makes it so great because we could talk about our different views and we get to see from other people's perspective of the show. Getting genuinely angry over some of their takes will not make them change their minds in actuality it only pushes them away from it.

[@24hr-Gaming]

I think it's more the lack of preparation. I will probably watch the rest of AoT later because I also fell off the bandwagon for that series a long time ago, but I wouldn't not watch any of it and say it's bad. Connor did at least watch it, but I feel like sometimes he does controversial takes for views/discussion. But not watching something and then trashing on it is poor taste even for something you dislike. Joey says he reads manga now but the AoT manga has been done for a while. I also notice none of them have been talking about Jujutsu Kaisen season 2 even though that has been popping off too, so I can't help if that also happened because they dismissed it as bad without watching/reading it.

[@statixfear]

It's just that whole "curse of anitubers" thing all over again. It is funny that, for all the episodes of TT that they've done, some people still expect them to be the same anitubers that they were 3 or 5 years ago. I enjoy TT not bcz of topics about anime or manga, but for the personalities involved in the podcast. So it was quite funny when I watched that episode, and immediately see comments literally malding over AOT like it's the Holy Grail or something 😂

[@kairumasamune1992]

i do agree with the lack of preparation but that what makes TT authentic, purely unfiltered.@@24hr-Gaming

[@kairumasamune1992]

@@statixfear For real man for real

[@maggie198333]

If you read the comments you’ll know your impression of the problem isn’t accurate.

[@JJJBunney001]

The fans are just nuts, they feel disrespected that someone didnt like or watch the ending of their favourite cartoon. Thats what it boils down to, its a god damn animated show its not the end of the world

[@masturcheef123]

The comment section on the TT episode comment section exaggerated for sure. Nothing wrong with Joey not watching it yet and Connor being bored by some of it.

[@ju5tm398]

Nothing pairs better than AOT fans and arguing about someone who doesnt like their favourite show or rate it just as high as them

[@nitokosuke3576]

As someone who rarely uses reddit or twitter, and has been keeping up very tightly with the whole trash taste related media, sometimes I'm just confused when I found out the bois are flamed, like how can people get mad at them for having an opinion?🤷🏻‍♂️ Don't we love the bois just the way they are?

[@maggie198333]

You should read the comments. People are not mad about Connor and Joey’s opinions. It’s lack of preparation. I feel bad for Garnt.

[@BigAl2-u7e]

​@@maggie198333 Lack of preparation to talk about something that was decided right before they started recording? Do you hear the things coming from your mouth? That's like being tasked to do a 7 hour job and your deadline is in 2 minutes.

[@jackmayor3574]

@@maggie198333 no people are mad they weren't praising Attack on Titan's ending. They saw the thumbnail and were expecting nothing but praise. Instead they got alot of "meh whatever" Obviously they're using excuses as to why they're mad. But that's the core of it.

[@waddles989]

⁠@@BigAl2-u7eit’s more so that they titled the episode around it that I think people are upset with the lack of prep.

[@BigAl2-u7e]

@waddles989 Definitely not that. If you read the comments on the episode, everyone is some variation of people being mad, especially towards Joey, for "not doing his job" or "not preparing" for the episode.

[@gio306067372]

That episode should be called The Fumbling🤣

[@gabriell5164]

Wait I thought aot fans hated the ending, wtf happened

[@siliconhawk]

The ending changed and it was not a bad as it was in the manga. Manga was a very 7/10 for me. Anime ending is so much better. Also I feel the problem with attack on titan is that attack on titan peaked much much earlier than the ending. AOT is absolutely in the top 1% of anime. But idk the starting and middle part of the anime is absolutely fantastic but towards the end I feel the author just lost maybe inspiration or something I am not sure. It's good but it's not mind-blowing

[@NekRulez]

@@siliconhawk As a manga reader that only watched season 1, I am going to need you to spoil it for me. I stopped watching anime in 2020 and only dipping in once In a while so how 're fk did they change the ending cuz the manga one was just a waste of time.

[@sparrowhawk1312]

​@@NekRulezit wasn't changed that much. The main thing is that there is additional dialogue between eren and armin and armin doesn't say the infamous line. But most of the problems I had were still present, eren is simultaneously someone who has no control but also someone who chose specifically to go down this path for reasons. At least armin wasn't character assassinated like he was in the manga but I think it's still pretty bad for most of the main cast.

[@regirock7313]

@@sparrowhawk1312wait what was the infamous line

[@sparrowhawk1312]

@@regirock7313 I'm being somewhat vague due to not wanting to spoil, but you can search it up- goes something along the lines of "thank you for becoming... for our sakes"

[@kenhiyoko941]

As a Mecha&Gundam fan, the boys just running as usual for me.

[@chanchaiken5522]

People take these podcast way too seriously

[@zenbers]

next week eps gonna be interesting af💀

[@MahirAnowar]

I think it's sort of unfair to blame anyone for that TT episode. It was kind of unfair of Garnt to decide to dedicate half the episode to it. Especially when Connor and Joey clearly lost interest in the show. But goddamn did the episode live up to the podcast name. I actually had to skip about 40+ minutes because the disinterested tones of Connor and the Joey jumping on that bandwagon without even watching the show made me physically cringe. It's okay to have one bad episode of a 200+ episode podcast.

[@Luissv72]

Connor no one wants to hear a reasonable response to this. JoEy BaD aNd CoNnOr DuMb1!1!1!1

[@AnOwlfie]

People have to remember that this is a podcast, not a debate club.

[@coldfire2753]

so?

[@Jackie_Tikki_Tavi]

Same. I was probably worse because I watched the episode on a reaction channel I like instead of myself, but that's because that's how I started the show and might as well finish it.

[@ForeverTraitor]

I don't blame Connor too much. "The Final Season" taking almost 3 whole years to release in 4 chunks did reduce the hype for me too. Especially as the plot and character motivations got more complex post time-skip and harder to keep track of.

[@coldfire2753]

skill issue

[@sp4tenkeks289]

Can't wait for the recency bias to wear off and for people to critically analyze the ending. Season 1-3 were pretty much anime perfection but almost everything in Season 4 was pretty bad in terms of writing and the ending is just garbo.

[@yuuki6712]

hot take kinda agree with connor with this one. I lost interest during the 2 hr parts, though s4 was hype ngl, i would have appreciate it if they dropped it episode weekly.

[@ghinafadhila]

No preparation? Yeah, we can tell.

[@Praestantia]

Joey: "Man Attack on Titan really fumbled the ending" "Why" Joey: "Those damn naming conventions"

[@TheSlithice]

They called it the final season for a decade, giving 2-3 episode a year, sometimes 1 episode a year and milking the shit out of it. Crazy how AoT fans will defend anything.

[@ultimateme3049]

​@@TheSlithicebruh it was not for a decade, 4 years ago we were still on season 3

[@abrupt9090]

@@TheSlithice serious question, do you know how long a decade is?

[@melto3877]

I mean he is right, they most definitely did fumbled the bag. It being titled the way it is, although not the main reason people lost interest in the show, it for sure played a part in killing the hype

[@melto3877]

​@@ultimateme3049I don't think that guy knows what he's talking about. He said they made 2-3 episodes a year and sometimes 1, which have never happened except for the last 2 episodes. He's either extremely drunk or have some kind of mental problem

[@harshavardhanvenkatasaikot6861]

Need to re watch it

[@lonelygrim3350]

It's not that Joey didn't watch it, it's the fact that he often acts all high and mighty talking about manga and being all snob and sh*t when he doesn't even watch anime anymore. Like dude. Critisize all you want but atleast watch it before trashing on it.

[@siliconhawk]

Joey actively lost my respect for him when it comes to anything "anime". Like I am fine with him as a person he is a funny and fantastic dude but his anime takes always feels like they come from a point of looking down for some reason. Like bro why do you have to speak in such a manner that makes the other person feel as if you are looking down on their opinion and their taste. Also let me make this straight he has total right to make and give opinions however the fuck he wants but then he should also be ready to face the outcome of giving said opinions on a public forum (well at least high drama video/opinions helps you farm content so there is that I guess)

[@eatdaaaa9984]

@@siliconhawk I think anyone who genuinely feels looked down upon due to Joey's takes should look deep within themselves to understand why they feel so hurt by a guy they don't know and who has no bearing on their life whatsoever whenever he doesn't validate their opinion.

[@GHhost-m4j]

When the plot of the manga and the anime is the same then if he read the manga then he can criticize the anime all he wants.

[@neilmacartney8972]

So can FMA and hellsing fans who only read the manga not allowed to criticise those series original animes cuz they werent accurate to the source

[@lazyking8445]

I can’t believe ur genuinely hurt by someone who has absolutely ZERO affect on ur life💀