cEDH TOURNAMENT REPORT

Dylan, Cam, and Tyler recount their latest tournament at Cloud City Games
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[@dexterkennedy6710]

Got to meet Tyler recently at my LGS, didn't get to play a game. Super nice, was a pleasure meeting, will enjoy my newly signed Koma.

[@lucasmcelroy2850]

That’s awesome dude! 🤙🏻

[@katzallergy]

Winning Magda pilot here! Appreciate you guys for hosting such an awesome event. Had an amazing time, glad to sneak away with a win on my first large event and show off the power of mono-red 💪. Wasn't a single ounce of salt all day / nothing but good vibes. Looking forward to the next one and running it back with the dwarves!

[@baconsir1159]

Congrats on the win! Out of curiosity, how was Null Rod for you? Ik the lines to play through it generally, but most of mine use Fireweaver. Do you just get rid of it with like Spine/Engineer/Welder before going for the win?

[@katzallergy]

​@@baconsir1159 Null rod is extremely powerful, can't imagine playing the deck without it tbh (unless you are on pure turbo). It's really good with taxing effects like GPS, and a lot of decks just lose to it with blood moon out. Just need to be careful not to lock yourself out of recasting Magda if she dies. And yeah you hasty welder, spine, or draw into a shatter effect to get rid of it.

[@fortyfivedollars45]

@@katzallergyany way to see your Magda list?

[@carmenhazard8492]

hey! i was the malcolm tymna (femboy farm) and i wanna say thanks again for hosting the tournament, it was a great time and im super excited to go to another! i shouldve convinced malcolm kediss to counter that maskwood, but hindsight is 20/20

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

Congrats on top 4!

[@connor4722]

I seen the decklist the other day and 1 loved the name and 2 really made me start contemplating building that over tymna tana as my 2nd cedh deck! I'm curious tho about what you think the strengths and weaknesses of the deck are

[@carmenhazard8492]

@connor4722 hey! so i really love this list now, but im also a cedh player who really hates playing without blue. honestly the pairing of malcolm tymna makes you feel super safe with any hand that can play an early malcolm, so i think thats the biggest strength. when your commanders make mana and draw cards, you can take hands that are fully commited to one thing. as for weakness, the biggest is probably winning quickly. its bot a huge issue, but its a slower style of deck so it doesnt put wins out quickly, and sometimes loses because it was just a turn slower than another deck

[@connor4722]

@carmenhazard8492 thank you for explaining and I can definitely relate, in casual I'm definitely dimir or esper hands down but I'm also relatively new starting magic all together in lost Caverns of ixilan. I started playing cedh trying something fringe with aminatou and switched my main deck (currently) to being urza. I've just been on the hunt to something closer to the meta for another cedh deck and this list felt like what I've been looking for being esper, has tymna, and not just card advantage but mana advantage in the command zone is just a huge bonus in my mind. I love what you've done with it and can't wait to see what else you do. Thank you so much for putting it together and answering my questions!

[@jacksonhenry1489]

Love the deck list! I have been playing this partner duo for a bit now have you considered Hullbreaker over teferi kitten?

[@TheJamesAJoyce]

The Play to Win team continue to not only be the best cEDH content creators, but also stellar human beings. So good to see them continuing to promote good causes with their channel!

[@EvanBenz]

58:46 Hey y'all thanks for putting on the tournament, it was a ton of fun! I was the Talion player in Dylan's Round 5 game. I did wind up winning after Cephalid Coliseum-ing Dylan's Thoracle; I had a Bloodchief Ascension on 2 at the start of that turn from Dylan and was down to 1 life at the time of the Thoracle attempt, so after knocking him out and the turn passed to the Elsha player with Bloodchief online, I was able to come back by the skin of my teeth. It was an absolute pleasure playing with y'all!

[@Inzodion]

Hey wanted to see if you are willing to share your decklist, im a new cedh player and I built talion, trying to see what other people are running as I think i play a bit of a unique build and playstyle with mine and I like to see other peoples take on talion as a commander

[@EvanBenz]

@@Inzodion KZbin isn't a fan of links in the comments, but my list is very closely based off of Max P's Blueberry Pie Talion list that you can find easily on Moxfield.

[@SundayBbq4786]

I met these guys at Okotoberfest, super down to Earth. These guys really make it feel like cEdh is very inclusive. I'm so glad you guys are in the community. Love the content and attitude.

[@TheR3DKiNg55]

Tyler should run for president the way he’s politicking his tables.

[@JonNunnelley-g8l]

Gawd that was bad, in my experience. let the kinan player cook.

[@danielhamilton3496]

Really love how much more Tyler is opening up on Camera. He definitely seemed a bit more reserved in earlier videos. You guys all have the best vibes together.

[@Blargonia]

I'm still embarrassed that Cam got to watch me wiff on 5 Etali triggers off of Rionya in round 1

[@notimeleft1]

Ouch!! lol bro I’m sorry

[@Blargonia]

@@notimeleft1 He wasn't even in my pod, he was watching Dylan play and perked up when he heard the phrase, "I'll make 5 copies of Etali" I hit 3 removal spells, my dockside, and a some other useless spells. It sucked lol

[@charlottehgomez]

congrats on another tournament, what a great showing

[@jamskater17]

A couple of buddies and I drove 6 hours to play in this and it was a great time thanks for hosting a great event!

[@maxxlanglois]

You guys fucking rule for the "Gay to Win" merch. I'm just an ally and I reallllyyy appreciate it. Another reason why you're my favorite cEDH channel

[@TheFu3lman]

@@9teen88 Insecure

[@SHlNT0]

The editing on this episode is great! (opening hands cycling, card prompts) kudos

[@MrWader76]

Oh so the homies are great players, AND great humans. Thanks for supporting your fellow humans. As a cis white male, I’m definitely buying a gay to win shirt because I love ALL my fellow MTG family😊

[@escobarisanoctopus]

49:31 - Tyler's "No you don't" hahahaha, so good.

[@mono3474]

It was the tallion player that won the round 5 with dylan. He just drew all the answers to everything

[@Benjammn]

This is correct. I was the Elsha player and I had one final big turn where I was a 1 life with Tallion on 2 and active Bloodchief Ascension in play where I actually was able to cast quite a few spells off the library with Elsha and Birgi in an attempt to find Top and piece together a win with lethal Tallion/Bloodchief Ascension triggers on the stack. I did brick in the end though, and naturally Enlightened Tutor was one card further down.

[@oscarperezcame]

please do more of this!! it's good to see how the meta is going on tournaments every once in awhile... it helps updating our decks!

[@sgarcia1309]

I love these tournament reports!! I learn so much from them. Keep them up!

[@danieldragotti2608]

Zurgo ojutai is such a underated commander. I have dragons deck lead by him. getting to dig 9-18 card a turn just out grinds other deck.

[@D.K.M.Espers]

Y’all’s videos are so helpful for someone who’s currently playing more high-optimized levels of casual, slowly progressing up to cEDH as I learn more about the format. You guys are so knowledgeable and your play patterns really help me learn how to control the tide of games. Thank you for that. Keep Playing to Win, peeps!

[@ryandeller4220]

Yea Tyler I (Ryan) was Cam's Round 4 Tivit opponent. The Archivist trigger that got me the Force of Negation was the Trigger from either when Cam Mystical Tutored for Borne Upon a Wind or an Intuition that Blue Farm cast to go get Dress Down in an effort to shut down all of cam's lines plus Tivit's ability to make treasures and stop me from getting any more turns. The 20 minute stack battle that happened over Borne happened on top of my Archivist trigger lol. Ironically had that Trigger just been resolved earlier I would have drawn dead. Cam Brain Freezed me for 12 during the stack battle to fuel his Dauthi pile with more interaction. The Force ended up on top post Brain Freeze, so really Cam should have just let me draw then his Brain Freeze would have gotten my Force of Negation. Once Cam died to his Consult I was left with 2 artifacts and no Tivit abilities, but I had Mox Diamond, Esper Sentinel, and Wishclaw in hand, so I sacrificed those three plus the two I had with Wishclaw tutor on the stack for a Touch the Spirit Realm to get another turn without the dress down and Touch + combat on that turn was enough artifacts to kill Shorikai and Blue Farm. As for our Semis pod, fun fact. I got the Vanishing Verse off the Lim-Dul's I fired off on the end of Stella's turn. Me threatening to shoot it on Stella's end step was a bluff to try and get you to do the same hand reveal deal so I'd have more information. It wasn't in my hand until I drew for turn. Dalton tapped the Ring in my upkeep before I got to draw my answer for Sphinx so I literally could not stop you from drawing 6 on my turn. I knew I was safe to clone/shoot sphinx since you showed me your hand before you got a fresh hand off the one ring tap, but post One Ring I didn't think I was going to be able to push through the VV on my own turn. I saw the Gilded Drake into steal Sphinx line, I didn't go for it because I was afraid of getting Spellskited just like Dalton's attempt. I didn't fire off the Vanishing Verse on my turn because my only way to back it up was Force of Negation, which is only free on your turn but I needed at least one more draw to get blue cards to pitch. I just assumed nobody else had any responses since they had been doing nothing. I didn't know your list well enough but what I should have done was either just fire off the VV after my first set of draws and hope you didn't get enough interaction or just said fuck it, not VV'd and bank of the fact that I run more interaction then you do and been as greedy as possible and just not stopped the draw chain drawing as much of my deck until you stopped. Overall I got absolutely fucked by Dalton's attempt to force me to answer Sphinx by using ring in my upkeep. Overall great tournament and was an absolute pleasure playing with you both. Hope I get to jam games with Dylan next time too.

[@AlexanderSullivan-zy8ur]

I like it when Tyler is part of the videos, this is a good one. Makes me want to fly out and play!

[@ulyssessanchez2328]

"I was on Dihada" 😮😢 Woah wait that's my boo ,my heart skips when ever I hear my girl

[@jancerny3385]

The editing on this vid is soo good!

[@finalflash1713]

its music to my ears to hear you guys talk about ZJ! I play a ton of Zj and that with Roaming Throne out is just ball busting. Even crazier when you add in double strike, hand sculpting with a chefs kiss!

[@charlesplass]

5 seconds in, yall r just the best. definitely picking up a playmat

[@Dropzewinner]

1:05:02 This is why I have started putting homeward path in every deck that’s 2 or less colors. Solely to stop drake stealing an important piece of mine or making someone unable to fight the clear problem

[@thestrugglingchef30]

40:00 the card/game mechanic you're thinking of is mindbreak trap lol. As always thx for the absorbable content, y'all the best.👍

[@jwags315]

37:46 this is a game to you? this is my life! LMAO me too Cam, me too

[@NVAddams]

I really enjoy hearing about the decks you are more familar with than taking something random for spice or to churn the content wheel. Being able to comment on specific moments and interactions bred from familiarity are a extremely interesting

[@xinyuanchen7853]

Seeing that Battered Golem hit the table was bananas haha

[@damnjekyll]

Love the ComedIan MTG style format & content. Y'all should get together sometime!! 🧐

[@TheCodingle]

Bro war torn front is in my home town, thats my local game shop. Chia is such a dope dude. Hell yeah bro MANTECA BOYYY. Hearing tyler say that shocked the life out of me LMAO

[@aimlessgun]

Dylan with the "Don't talk to the police" stance on politics haha

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

BINGO

[@conwaylynch1080]

Round 3 Tasigur player here, all I can say is, I had to do it to em'. The silence was unfortunate for me. The fallout from the Defense Grid was arguable more unfortunate. Haha GG

[@supwithunerd]

Femboy Farm is actually insane LOL

[@Gearhook]

West Coast here- really sad I couldn't make it. Especially considering I used to live 30 min away from this venue! However this is a great report! Looking forward to more.

[@nikodb5471]

47:15, FON can't be used on your turn. How divit's player was able to use it on his own extra turn?

[@Josephhof]

When will we get some top cut footage of these tables, i gotta see these conversations go off in real time

[@Dubhats]

How does Bowmaster not stop the Malcom Glinthorn combo?? Just shoot the thing with the triggers right?

[@dondariohabibi5118]

i cracked up when they were talking about defense grid :D

[@geoffreygarfein9169]

I have been a fan since episode 1. I love this group!!!!! However I need Dylan to get a top 16 because I feel he deserves it.

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

I’m trying!’

[@jacobhawkins6612]

This definitely makes me feel good about Magda and Kinnan being two CEDH decks that I am actively working on completing without proxies. I love hearing the groups experiences in tournaments and each individual game!

[@TripsAhoy]

Good stuff! ❤❤❤

[@Shmackle123]

Have you guys ever done a podcast regarding casual/higher power casual edh games? If not I'd love like a "What makes a deck casual/higher power/CEDH" kinda video. Y'all rock btw.

[@tannercarterr2176]

Does all the merch in the store go toward the donations or only the gay to win merch??

[@stefanhuber522]

@Tyler what is the other deck/commander you are referring to at the start of the video when answering what deck you played?

[@D.K.M.Espers]

I think he’s probably referring to the Planeswalker commander Dihada, Binder of Wills, Mardu value and legends-based deck, if I’m not mistaken :)

[@tash1201]

​@@D.K.M.Espersit also has some flavors in CEDH, you can find some great pilots here and in Japan where I heard it started. Turbo Mardu or I have seen and I run a little bit slower version with just Tainted pact and praetors grasp and twincaster combo. Flicker with breach using Dihada -3 instead of lions eye to generate mana through treasures

[@gambit2129]

The atraxa player saying they may be finding a way to get sphinx into play. And me as an atraxa player have thought about it alot as well. If you fall short of getting atraxa out turn 3 or 4 it could be a very great way to revitalize tour hand and hopefully get you into some interaction. Atraxa feels way more explosive compared to tnt, but tnt feels more police to me. But I've been debating adding sphinx just because there so much card draw.

[@twhite9615]

Gay to Win playmats! Let's GO!!!!!

[@TheFu3lman]

@@9teen88 Absurdly insecure.

[@Manifibell]

Does anyone know if I can watch some of the games somewhere, or was it all in person only? Great video! Very fun to hear what happened in each game :D

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

All in person, not filmed

[@zakkellingson4012]

I'm curious why a win in the tournament was 4 points instead of 5 like a lot of other tournaments? I always wondered why 5 was the common number people picked so i am glad to see not everyone does that!

[@MageSkeleton]

36:50 Defense Grid won me alot of games, and it's mainly "that card" that you use specifically because you can't play counterspells. And making it a generic "Tithe Taker" but opponents pay 3 instead of 1 would be interesting, i feel it would have to be an artifact creature and WotC would probably make it only 2 tax and require white mana which defeats the purpose of why Defense Grid is played. However, There's Wandering Archaic but hardly anyone plays it because it's five CMC. 1:11:40 can we all agree that Competitive Commander is an oxymoron? it's meant to be a casual format, and it's difficult to "be number one" when you have three or four opponents.

[@patrickdunlap7]

Pumped for the Gay To Win merch!

[@zomon3413]

@@9teen88 says you

[@firefighter0ger809]

Tyler calling out Dihada, are you interested in the deck or do you make fun of it? Hope for the first one, i am watching you. ;) We have a great community, join our Mardu Mission

[@DamnItMarco]

War Torn is a great shop! Shout outs

[@ryantomczak2248]

Playing in my first cEDH tournament tomorrow. It is a small tournament, not as big as yours. Player cap is 48, and there may be 20 players at the event. Still excited to play though. I am taking Malcolm/Vial Smasher.

[@fosterdawson7339]

good luck! easiest top4 you've ever seen

[@ryantomczak2248]

@@fosterdawson7339Did not get to play in the tournament unfortunately. The store allowed proxies (max of ten in your deck). I had loaned a good friend some cards so that he could play in the event and make the proxy limit. Long story short, a couple of his proxies were flagged and he couldn’t play. Because we went together I could not ask him to sit there while I played in the event, so I bowed out. I found another tournament on June 1 that I am attending. This event does not have a proxy limit so he can play his deck as he wants. We will need to print out new proxies for a few of his cards as they only allow official MTG art.

[@BackgroundNoisex]

I’m curious, what don’t you like about tivit?

[@NappoBappo]

Played with Tyler at WTF. Still angry at that Void Winnower flip!!! Fun game nonetheless!

[@bsmick6]

Stroudsburg!? I grew up there! 🤯

[@blackwhitepanda9710]

Where is the cloud city games located at in stroudsburg whenever I look up cloud city game it’s always in other city

[@Crustgg]

Strouds mall

[@decktechsfordecks]

Love these videos ❤

[@Cloudpiroth01]

1:10:38 He can't keep getting away with it!!!

[@Clemsonalumnus]

Are the decklists posted anywhere?

[@MTG_Ronin]

No draws. Play the game. Play to Win.

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

Play to win the tournament! Not just the game

[@MTG_Ronin]

@@PlaytoWinMTG meh

[@alexanderfromme9055]

Question why does no one play korvold anymore

[@wasmachstdugern1]

Has anyone done any research about what Jefe has the highest win rate at slot 4?

[@retroeyjoey1179]

I love the content I just wish Tyler's audio quality was on par with yours

[@jeffshittles3664]

W INCLUSIVITY

[@TheRinjo]

Tyler's game two is what i hate about Cedh , it seems to be a thing more and more , get multiple people together who just go hur dur lets draw it out so we can do better in the long run instead of actually playing the game....... kinda kills the spirit of the game ... why play a competitive format if you are just gonna flop or purpose .....

[@RowanFoxley]

Magnus Carlsen mentioned!! Tyler knows chess???? huge if true

[@cobsparker9026]

Can anyone link the Zurgo Ojutai decklist? (Not on the link in the description 😢)

[@boredindividual]

As someone who has mostly played turbo decks for cedh, I think defense grid overplayed. From my experience it's only good if you aren't playing blue yourself e.g krik and korvold.

[@lat1n0_h0t]

OMG if its the same Squidward that i know, i love that name followed him. Love you Brian.❤ Lolol

[@TNNSunEBoy]

The Malcom/Kediss player is indeed "Luke" a buddy of mine from 95 Gamcecenter in DE. I apologize to Dylan for Luke's behavior towards you when playing Atraxa as that's my cEDH deck I play all the time so he knows all the faults in my lines and when to interact. He's a great player and is really good at politics, trust me on that. Thanks for the great video guys!

[@chrisludwig4729]

Not gonna lie, I really don't like agreeing to draws, particularly in Round 2. It's far from a big deal, but I think you go to a tournament to play.

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

I see what you mean but most people go to a tournament to WIN and sometimes drawing is the best way to win

[@FrankPalombo]

I have never heard of professional sports teams considering a draw, they always play their best to win. ​@@PlaytoWinMTG

[@magusofthebargain]

oh wow! Kenrith beats Bowmasters!! nice play!!

[@TheLeprechaun159]

GAY TO WIN PLAYMAT LETS GOOOOO

[@GatesOfElysia]

Small thing but really good to donate to both local and national charities!!

[@JonahXVII]

Help! I bought a playmat, but it auto added a shipping address that isn’t current… what can I do :(

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

Email the issue to [e-mail]

[@Faja629]

I personally don't believe you should be able to choose to draw. "If you're not first, You're last" - Ricky Bobby

[@BabelTriumphant]

I mean this in the nicest way possible but Tyler is one of those guys who you should never listen to at the EDH table.

[@andyontaneda996]

Best deck lists

[@Wilebski]

Why is a win 4 points? A win in a normal non-edh tournament is only 3. For the first like half of the cast they keep saying locked with nine points which was very confusing

[@therealax6]

Most likely because, if a win was 3 points, an intentional draw would hand out more points (1 per player, aka 4 total) than a win. That could easily be an argument to make a win 5-6 points, even.

[@haunakahzombie7899]

1000th day of asking for tymna/kraum

[@AndrewHill-gi2ik]

Can someone explain Tyler's 4th round win to me. I get he sacs cephalid coliseum repeatedly making his opponents draw and then returns his graveyard back to his library with endurance. But he needs to kill endurance repeatedly for this. So how is he doing that.

[@BVBridesifyer]

Evoke presumably

[@joshuajinsu2559]

Where can one find out the next tournament and sign up?👀👀

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

Our patreon is the best bet. Patrons get first access

[@DavyMcWavy]

How do y’all feel about “molten duplication” in Magda?

[@RichardQuorvisGardner]

Here’s the thing, you might have needed fewer points if your lgs refused forced draws.

[@robertthered1054]

I don’t think I will ever understand agreeing to draw. It just doesn’t feel sportsmen like and feels like cheating. I just have at play to win mentality

[@asparagusmelontoast]

You're competing for top 16 to be in the finals bracket, getting the points to meet again in top 16 is better than brawling it out in matches hoping for points. If everyone draws that's an additional point with no loss which makes your stats look better Also it can feel like a win if youre able to convince the other mages to agree with you on a decision

[@zninja12345]

Another cool video.

[@angerydoggosmetal]

Where can you get that sweet Ogre Head Helm toy????!!!

[@letsmakeit110]

wait which one of u is gay to win? i hope its the cute one

[@SenorCoupon]

Big points for the Magnus reference #goat

[@damo9961]

Come to New Zealand and we'll play Cedh on a volcano

[@damo9961]

I've got like 4 paper cedh decks. How much money do I have to pay to have a cam game? I need to buy a cam too but I will, total noob lol but I've playing Magic since Tempest block. I have a sweet New Zealand accent, loads of crazy stories from my youth that are far too offensive for KZbin and I have an awesome sob story, Home Makeover Style: My missus of 5 years got pregant last year with twins, one with severe health issues, we had to have a reduction in the womb to save the other twin. He had to stay in the womb to not abort her, so they were both born together, dead twin and live twin. So my missus had a real hard time with the live twin, we had no family support she had 4 hours sleep a night. She wouldnt let me touch her and we hadnt had sex in over 11 months. So I put pressure on her for at least some sort of physical relationship like cuddles (hindsight huh) and she lost it and moved out with our 3 year old son and 3 month old daughter. 7 weeks later and $6,000 in lawyers fees still havent seen them. I kept messaging and ringing to try see them, I've seen my son everyday of his life until she left, very involved dad and nothing. She put a restraining order on me for the repeated messaging and ringing - that counts as violence in NZ law. Have to attend a family violence course, cant try to contact her. I have zero rights it seems and may never see my children again and the woman I love more than anything, I was with her for the births of my children is probably gone forever and seems to hate me.

[@Clemsonalumnus]

Magda has been lowkey ripping it up this whole year. The key is to not fall for the dragons line. Also, Mycosynth Lattice, Vandalblast and Karn are great in this deck.

[@dylanhall908]

You guys should get squidward on the chanel

[@ltcinos9078]

One more Stella game please

[@damo9961]

Lots of Ishai. Seems like Ishai is a bit better in midrange hell.

[@FrankPalombo]

Considering the drawing conversations it doesn't sound like a legit competitive tournament.

[@MisterWebb]

Funny to watch your hairlines receding