Gerber Strongarm vs Fallkniven S1 Camp Knives - Value vs Premium Options

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[@caseysimpson1806]

After owning a Ka Bar, carbon SRK, and Moras, I purchased the S1. The knife went straight to work on a backpack deer hunt with about 4-5 inches of snow on the ground, elevation 7000.' The woods were pretty damp. I didn't make camp until dark and had to process wood and food by headlamp. I carried the knife in the dangler with a small fire kit attached. That system worked for me: never interfered with my pack and was comfortable for spot and stalk type of hunting. Cold weather comfort in the hand and gloved hands. The sheath was easy to use with extra clothing. The knife is strong, comfortable, and sharp. Functions well in cold and wet environments (forest, mountains, and maritime) and is my woods knife of choice for foul weather. When I bought it, I believed it was NATO approved. In summary, I have confidence in the knife. Liked it so much I bought an F1. I paid about $170 to my door five years ago. No deer taken on that trip.

[@jay-rus4437]

After several years of buying many “prestigious” knives Ive come to the conclusion that it isnt necessary. Also, very rarely if ever would the inflated price of these high end knives really be worth it. There is no doubt that many of the high end knives are in fact “better”, but the question becomes whether or not they are better to the point of being discernible when being used in a typical manner. After having LT Wright, Bark River, Fallkniven, Tops, Esee, William Collins, and who knows how many other brands (totaling some 20 or so different knives worth literally thousands of dollars).....well, what do I have now......a strongarm and several mora blades. I carry the strongarm for rough use type tasks, and a mora kansbol for more detailed tasks. More than enough to get the job done, and done well at that. Total for those two knives...$86 ($53 strongarm and $33 kansbol) So yes, these expensive knives are in fact better quality, but unnecessary for use......and when I change my mind again, and purchase yet another knife, I will let you know 😁

[@leystate]

Exactly the same setup for me strongarm/kansbol after many years of collecting expensive knives looking for the perfect one :)

[@beaublumhardt4298]

I agree to some extent any knife over 200 dollars is kind of useless. Exactly how I feel about the Cris Reeve sebenza

[@getsmart3701]

Jay-Rus: you were two years ahead of me mate...but I'm now on the train with you now. One heavy-duty beater (Terava 140) and one mora (2000 or Hultafors OK4). Total cost, when I purchased them...74 euro. The combination handles all my knife needs with aplomb. All my fancy knives were sold for a tidy little sum last year and that allows me to buy my chosen combination several times over if need be. Respect, for getting here first mate.

[@jay-rus4437]

@@getsmart3701 ....nice. The Terava knives are awesome. I have a couple Mora Garbergs also. They are a bit higher than some others, but still well under $100. I think I paid $70 for my last one.

[@Ve-suvius]

Ha, exactly how I feel about knives. Had them all (sold them all), Bark River, several models, ESEE most models, Becker the same. I prefer Mora. And I'm going to get myself this Strong Arm also. I have seen some hard tests, and it holds up really fine. Sharpening is not an issue. It's like tying shoes. Easy peasy.

[@BradGryphonn]

Sound advice, Pete. Especially the 'don't buy an expensive knife if you're just starting out with knives'. When I started buying knives again after a many years break, I paid around $140 for the first one. It has served me well for six years or so now (N690 Bohler with Cocobolo handles Cudeman MT-5 for those interested). I then started buying different types of knives with different styles, steels, locks, and purposes. I found that earlier on I was far more careful with my more expensive knives than I was with my cheap ones, such as the cheap Moras and Hultifors knives. But now, after a few years I find I'm carrying my knives with higher HRC and more complex steels if I am merely cutting things, rather than chopping at branches and hacking into bony meats for the dog. Ironically, I have given away a lot of my cheaper, more robust knives to family and friends, so now my choice is becoming more limited. I carry my big Crooked River all-day, every day now because for what I use it for (slicing meat, cutting rope, bags, cloth etc), it holds an edge so I don't have to keep sharpening it. At worst, a quick run over with a ceramic stone and a strop and it's all good. Whereas, when I was carrying one of the cheap Moras around, I might have to fix the edge once or twice a day. Having said all that, I've decided to bite the bullet and get a Strongarm. One, for the beaterability of it, and two, because it's one of those classic knives, like the Buck 110, Opinel No8, Becker KA_BAR BK-2, and the Ontario Rat-1 to name a few. I like to 'collect' those classic brands and models. I have a Buck B500 but really should find a classic 110 (other than the cheap knock-off someone gave me LOLZ). If you read this far, thank you. I do ramble on a bit.

[@theedain]

The Fallkniven, a real classic - but I'm no snob and have to confess to loving that cheap Strongarm

[@gym55rat]

I'm a Canuck so I have no dog in the fight as far as country bias goes, however I do love my strongarm

[@akeeperofoddknowledge4956]

American made Gerbers are great knives for the money. Hard to beat. Stay away from the offshore Gerbers.

[@IlmarBeekman]

I have both and while I like my fallkniven, I rarely use it because I feel like the StrongArm can take more abuse. Maybe it’s all the tip breakage videos I’ve seen with the fallknivens. Maybe it’s fact that the StrongArm is less than half the price and I’m just more inclined to beat on it. Whatever the case, I find myself doing things with the StrongArm I would NEVER do with my s1 or even my a1. It’s a great knife and while it doesn’t hold an edge very long it’s not as if it dulls easier more than most. Honestly feels like it dulls at the same rate as my 1095 knives. Great knife! I will probably buy another for my truck at some point.

[@Kevin_drinks_Lead]

Fälkniven really is a great swedish company

[@AlaskanFrontier1]

Thanks for the comparison! Until you brought it up I never realized the similarities.

[@CedricAda]

Yes indeed. Apart from a couple design differences, they are both very versatile do all blades

[@joshporter5459]

It's 2020 and I finally bought a Strong Arm. I'm watching this video after my purchase, so far I'm loving the Gerber. Nice comparison vid.

[@emochinchilla]

Great comparison and review. Thank you.

[@Airik1111bibles]

This is definitely an "Intense commenter trigger video" gotta love the haters LOL ....I ended up buying a Strongarm cause my Gerber Prodigy has been such an awesome workhorse for me. I am a everyday user of knives, I can confirm that the USA made Gerber's are excellent tools, they are easy to reprofile and honestly a good stropping after using them puts the edge right back into shape. I love their 420hc good stuff.

[@quinntheeskimooutdoors6234]

I was thinking about getting the Gerber knife. Thanks for the info. SU. Take care.

[@jamesreese1999]

I was going to buy one of those super expensive Fallkniven knives, and then I read about loose quillons on them! The problem is supposedly fixed, but for $350 the quillon should be as solid as a rock!

[@kurtisstringer6097]

great review. short enough to watch the whole thing but packed full of content. keep em coming. :)

[@CedricAda]

thanks for the feedback! I saw the 19 minutes and debated pruning it a bit more. But i'm glad I left it

[@kurtisstringer6097]

+CedricAda Gear and Outdoors didnt even realise it was 19 minutes haha. felt like ten max. time flies when ya having fun :)

[@LPMojoGL]

Coming from plenty of folding knives, looking into fixed blade survival types, not very knowledgeable... Gerber seems like the best bang for buck, and I was set on the Strongarm or LMF. Researching, looking for a reason to go with something else. Found it, in just the way that S1 balances and spins in your hand. And then the way the blade made short work of every task compared to the Gerber. Splendid.

[@maguraboy]

One is an overprised knife and the other is not a knife at all-it is a pry bar with a cutting edge.I have them both.

[@LGSkywalker82]

again, great video that just concretes my resolve for the strong-arm. how would the F1 compare to the Esee 4 or 5?

[@CedricAda]

Its definitely in good league with the Esee 3 - the 4 is more comparable with these knives, but a bit shorter. The esee 5 is a proper brute of a blade - very comparable to the Becker BK2. I have a comparison video of the F1 vs Esee 3. really just came down to wanting stainless or carbon, and convex vs flat. Both great knives. I preferred the F1 though, and sold my Esee 3.

[@LGSkywalker82]

+CedricAda Gear and Outdoors this shows your knowledge level when you have comparisons that ate this thought out. cheers brother!

[@omrilin3552]

great review 👍

[@gravityman5529]

The bugs crawling on the face in this video are why I live where the wind hurts my face 👍😂

[@semco72057]

Both knives are looking great and as long as they both can get the job done you want it to do is what matters.

[@kanadaluvr]

Really nice video. Enjoyed that quite a bit. I'm personally a huge fan of the Gerber Prodigy. I'm in the minority apparently of people who actually like serrations when they're well done. I'd say that Strongarm with a half serrated edge probably would have ripped right through that rope with the greatest of ease and remained sharp afterwards. But for this comparison definitely made sense to have the same blade type. Would love to see more of these types of comparison videos from you man! You do them well with no bias or any garbage like that.

[@CedricAda]

Hey thanks man! Glad to still see you around the place! Its fun comparing knives when you like both about the same.

[@cycloneoutdoors7781]

Nice comparison! Myself, I'd go for the Strongarm, the Fallkniven is still a really nice knife, but I just don't think it's that much more worth it. You can get by with the American Gerbers or like a Schrade or something in the woods just fine, I know because that's pretty much all I have lol.

[@roguesheep1747]

Totally I’ve seen 4 different S1 just out the box tips dropping off after 3 or 4 stab twists .knife snobs lol

[@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531]

@@roguesheep1747 That's bullshit, and you probably can't afford one.

[@Wastelander13]

@@roguesheep1747 Bullshit.

[@cxvii6812]

How did you get it for $80? The cheapest I found it for was $105

[@davidtate166]

A fine test .

[@savedbyjesuswork]

I put a convex grind on my strongarm and it made the blade more capable of a knife.

[@greekveteran2715]

You made the Gerrberiven? I bet it cuts better and the edge is also stronger Well done!

[@ernestwalden3894]

Awsome review my friend. I have an Armstrong but haven't put it to the test yet. Thanks for sharing and I learned a bit. Be careful out there because I think your in yawi territory. Here in Kentucky we call them wooly boogers LOL. Or sasquatch.

[@cd1615]

Watch the gauntlet test with the strongarm, the same knife is sent to 6 different people who all do different tests with it.

[@ogostaboy]

Good video,appreciate the effort. I have the F1 and the Strongarm,but not the S1.The Gerberg is a pry bar with a cutting edge-yes it is affordable,comfortable and has an ok sheath but it is only a beater and not much more .Very bad edge profile and soft steel.

[@tikkidaddy]

Think I might skip the Fallknivens and pick up a Cold Steel SRK in CPM3V.😂

[@ActionHero29]

Good work

[@mighthouse8194]

For A$80 I would say a better contender would be a Condor Bushlore rather than the Strongarm. I get it's probably not the style Pete prefers but for camp tasks the Scandi grind and high carbon steel (coated for rust resistance) mean it performs closer to the S1. The handle is also much more suited to wood/camp work and includes a leather sheath which is a higher value, if that's your thing. Interesting comparison though :)

[@CedricAda]

Ah yes, the condor bush lore. I haven't had a chance to get one - condor is very hard to find here at good prices. I have another 'value vs premium' video on the horizonfor bushcraft knifes. Will probably put something from that price point versus the LT wright Genesis and see what the real differences are for the cost.

[@capbackwards6807]

I like the bush lore but the one I got was very soft and is prone to roll if I put my usual profile on it. I had to put a wide angle on it. I found that it sharpens very easily and quickly but needs a wide angle or it rolls. Might just have been mine (defect in HT) don't know.

[@I..cast..fireball]

strongarm will cut just as well after re-profiling the edge. It comes very "sharp" but uses a large edge bevel angle

[@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531]

Lol no

[@Imightberiding]

A sensible comparison.

[@braydenhess5676]

it's not the accent that gives filming in Australia away...it's the flies. good job mate.

[@backoff5060]

One is a bush craft knife, the other is a tactical combat knife. Your choice..... I got my Strongarm

[@TheOneAndOnlySame]

VG10 is equally very easy to sharpen. Jst strop it on a compound loaded leather strop and it's razor sharp again.

[@ActionHero29]

True

[@alexandercarder2281]

I’ve had my Strongarm for about a week now and I love it more and more as time goes by. I find it a bit hard to sharpen but I got there in the end just had to figure it out.

[@greekveteran2715]

The reason you find it hard to sharpen, is because it's a saber grind blade. That, creates a bigger edge bevel (more steel surface), which means you have more material to grind off. Also, compared to a flat non saber grind blade,it's a bit more difficult to find the right sharpening angle on a saber flat grind blade like this. If this blade was a flat grind and not a saber flat, everything I mentioned, would be easier and the sharpening would also be a faster process. PS Because this knife,comes with a bad bevel geometry and a really bad edge geometry from the factory..You have to reprofile this knife, to make it work properly.

[@JustIn-op6oy]

@@greekveteran2715 what edge do you find works best on the Gerber? I think I'm going to scoop one up as a utility cutter for my summer camping/fishing/hiking gear. I've got the equipment and experience to throw a new edge on a blade that long without too much trouble, so if I can maximize the capabilities of the knife with a reprofile job I would appreciate your input.

[@greekveteran2715]

@@JustIn-op6oy It all depends on the jobs you're going to use the knife for. Keep in mind, that 420hc, is a really soft steel. That means, that you have to: 1) Convex the edge bevel a bit. 2: Avoid a less than 20 edge bevel angle, if you''re going to use it on hard stuff, or genetally hard use like choping. Whatever you do, try to raise and convex in the same time the edge (blend it with the main bevel, to remove the transition as much as you can. That way, you will fix the 2 main issues, this blade has, which is the very thick behind the edge geometry, and the poor and uneven edge bevel it comes with. Always work slowly and carefully, don't rush things! Make more stops, to check where you at, use a fresnel lens if possible. Strop on stretched piece of newspaper (black letters part) and use the knife to see if you like it. If not, repeat a bit more, on medium grit. I wish I could do it for you, I love sharpening/reprofiling! Good luck!

[@mrc2205]

The Fallkniven is also, just prettier lol. It’s so nice to look at.

[@BradGryphonn]

Six years on, and knowing you have a few Fallknivens, what's your verdict today?

[@Surv1ve_Thrive]

Good question!

[@californiagunner7020]

So it would be better to have an armor cutting edge on this then a bone cutting, thank you for the review.

[@davidtate166]

Very nice blades i like then both.a lot like the cold steel carbon 5 survival knive very tuff. Blade . get you out of a jam.

[@MrFomhor]

I'd take the S1 blade with the Strongarm handle & sheath.

[@davidtate166]

Both are combat ready knives . i would carry them.

[@willbrink]

You need to test the Ausi stuff from Hard Core Hardware. ;)

[@wtfmrb293]

The things you find out in this video. Lilly's video doesn't change that. Gj

[@tx1hawkins357]

Apparently both knives 🔪 are poor at repelling bugs. 🤔. Great comparison, thanks for the details.

[@Xyrium]

I picked up and returned the S1 Pro, handle is wayyy too small. If they simply added 1 CM in girth on the S1 it would rock.

[@stryx4384]

i own a Gerber strongarm and the f1 and a1 i love the strongarm as beginner blade ! Its a good quality knife the next knife i look for is the s1 😂

[@CedricAda]

sounds like you have my disease! Welcome to my counterproductive support group! 😂👍🏻

[@vlogmoor4992]

Gerber is clearly the better buy

[@charlescollier7217]

Good review as always.

[@CedricAda]

Thanks for watching, Charles!

[@evictioncarpentry2628]

Meh, I paid $40USD shipped to my door for a Strongarm, I'll beat on it and sharpen it til it falls apart for all I care.

[@idongedher2427]

cpt awesome tough fuggin knife isn’t it

[@Ve-suvius]

video: GERBER STRONGARM KNIFE - DESTRUCTION TEST - UNTIL IT BREAKS - KNIFE TIP TORTURE TEST - That shows how tough it is.

[@Airik1111bibles]

Holy crap! If the government sees this video that might put you in quarantine to watch the effects of Zika virus on a healthy male ROFL.. You deserve a bushcraft reviewers prize for pushing through that one;)

[@CedricAda]

lost about 3 litres of blood

[@onelastkast3]

That fallk is almost 200$ here in the states. The gerber is around 80$

[@bushcrafttasmaniaisnowsnow374]

Nice review! I must admit, those powdered steels on the fallkniven line look pretty sweet. It's good to see someone in Australia enjoying some nice weather. Not jealous of the insect life though. :s The cold is still keeping most critters at bay down here. Am def looking forward to the end of the winter.

[@alarsenault1681]

Lol I have the same problem in Canada the price is always quite a bit more than the states and then the shipping the last knife I bought was a varms from Poland and it was actually not bad price but I bought the bushcraft black last month and with tax it cost me 100 that's not good but the way I see it if you get a good quality knife then it's tolerable :-)

[@joannestewart2183]

Hey I'm from Australia to

[@tindra98765]

eeehhhh..."fallkniven" (the name is Fällkniven by the way) is made 100% in Sweden (they are Ultra fine knives....all Swedish Fighter pilots have Pro F1 on their "brest-flaps"...... steel = "mix" of (Sandvik/420HC)....totally awesomeness (i have 2 my own (price: ~F1 $300-350). PS. Google :=)

[@greekveteran2715]

Fallkniven is a Swedish brand, however their knives are made in Japan. You can clearly notice the traditional Japanese style of their sheaths and the Japanese lamination with the 2 different steels used as a swandich.

[@tatianaarteaga6975]

Honestly I could throw a Gerber on a rock and not care. Gerber knives are dull as hell, but they are dirt cheap here in Canada and I own one just to do everything that I would never do to my Fallkniven: throwing, heavy batoning, etc.

[@brettwarner719]

Buy a Joker Knives Nomad. For 100 bucks you get N695 at 4mm thickness with one of the best convex grinds I have seen on a knife.

[@barrybueler3356]

S1 hands down no video needed

[@Ve-suvius]

GERBER STRONGARM KNIFE - DESTRUCTION TEST - UNTIL IT BREAKS - KNIFE TIP TORTURE TEST - This video.

[@sublyme2157]

I live in America, so I'll get both. Apologies for being cheeky.

[@tucker2074]

Greed is what makes the fallkniven price

[@nicktucker7467]

The fallkniven will probably last longer - not only because of whats likely better construction, but because the steel is more wear resistant. I have a strongarm and like it a lot, but if you use it frequently, it'll require lots of sharpening and eventually youre going to drastically alter the edge geometry. But to be fair, gerber intends most of their budget knives to be widely accessible and to do their intended jobs well, although not necessarily for years and years of abuse. Good review, thanks. Also i cant sharpen convex to save my life, so the decisions made for me ; p

[@RPhTom]

If you enjoy owning & fawning over fine knives, buy the falkniven. I also own some fine knives & love displaying them & lightly using them. However, don't kid yourself: the falkniven won't tolerate 1 minute of abuse, let alone "years" of abuse. Try prying the tip sideways with the falkniven... hint: the warranty says tip breaks aren't covered. The Gerber is a much shoddier made knife, from the way it is sharpened from the factory (as shown in this video) to the lower edge retention & lower ease of sharpening but it was not designed for that. It was designed to be an indestructible beater knife for combat. If you are fighting a man armed with a tire iron or baseball bat, you can block a blow with your gerber & it will not break. You can also stab a man in the coconut or Mcribs & not lose your tip. In my misbegotten youth, decades ago, I once stabbed a dufus in the coconut & it broke the tip off of my prized pocket knife (spyderco). It was so sad! I saved & scraped to buy that knife. 😢 Also, the gerber is a COATED stainless blade.stainless blades don't rust so no coatung is necessary, right? WRONG! I lost another stupid Spyderco knife because I used it to cut some driftwood to start a fire on the beach. I got some salt water on it & wiped it with my shirt. I was on an island, so no fresh water to clean it with. I had no drinking water, only beer. It rusted in only 24 hours!!! 😢

[@RooralAUS]

dude i love you

[@porkchop1343]

Those mosquitoes 🦟 love you.

[@antman29able]

Thanks for this comparison review. I have the A1, S1 and F1 and I tend to use the A1 and F1 more than the S1 but recently have been using my S1 more as I have left it on the bench ready to use. It is a good size knife. I had been thinking about getting a Strongarm as it has a lot of good reviews. I haven't seen one for $80 where did you get it for that price.

[@CedricAda]

Discount Trader - an online hardware store :)

[@antman29able]

That was a quick reply, :) Thanks for the link. Take care Anthony

[@jacobsebastien3910]

I Luv my all black fine edge gerber strongarm' Tough USA Made knife you can Trust.

[@mora473db]

Convex the Gerber. Would help it's perform better

[@MrDosonhai]

Never a fan of using a knife for batoning, I'd use a hatchet for that. Knives are for finer tasks like feathering or skinning, not for rough tasks.

[@mistersmith3986]

Falkniven knives are NOT made in Japan. The VG10 steel they use is made in Japan. Falkniven buys the steel and makes the knives in Sweden.

[@CedricAda]

hello! I just went off what it says on the box

[@WDLC1911]

mister smith, the blade is done in Japan. The knife is finished in Sweden.

[@seanb6986]

The whole knife is made by Hatori in Seki, Japan

[@bdcochran01]

I also own a couple of knives by Hatori. He is a master.

[@dannoinsertlastnamehere6004]

the falkineivan handle looks exactly like my srk

[@jamesfry134]

One knife costs four times as much as the other. Your comparison is bullshit.

[@MattP-BandB]

@@jamesfry134 actually, fallkniven copied Cold Steels design. And with their new SRK in CPM 3V the Cold Steel is vastly superior. I have both.

[@christopherpearce]

The difference of handle material is substantial. This is a point you evaluated as a draw. Let me elaborate... The S1's Thermorun has / is: Excellent physical properties. Low density allows lightweight products. Able to provide wide range of hardness (Durometer Hardness 55A60D) High volume resistivity for excellent insulative properties Thermorun has excellent rubber elasticity. Providing excellent seal properties Excellent recovery properties Thermorun has excellent durability. Good resistance to heat aging, water, weather and ozone. Good resistance to chemicals The Strongarm's outer rubber is softer and will erode and much faster.

[@Ve-suvius]

Thermorun gets damaged when batoning . It's nowhere near worth the price. Mora is Swedish pride. Not overpriced Fallkniven . For the price of one Fallkniven I can buy tens of Mora's. Have a look at destruction tests on the Strong Arm. And say again the handle doesn't hold up. So much smoke curtain around these overpriced brands. VG10 is standard kitchen knife steel. On the brittle side. Nothing special. Not worth that price.

[@GetMeTo1kSubs]

The gerber is better than the other one and its half the price!!!

[@greekveteran2715]

Gerber makes some of the worst knives while Fallkniven makes some of the best knives out there. You get what you pay for. The S1 will last 3-times longer if the knife is used and sharpened, even the handle material will last longer. Also the Strongmarm came with the worst thick and uneven edge bevel I've ever seen on any knife, while the Fallknivens have the best "Zero" convex edges out there. Sheath works better and will last longer on the ....guess which knife will last longer overall, will cut better, can work wood while the other can't and so on.. Don't fall into the trap of marketing.

[@davidtate166]

Strongarm is in Bz1 steel i think .maybe better. ?😑

[@bilbobaggins8876]

neither are full tang as far as I am concerned, better than a rat tail but as a true test why not cut off the over mold to see what's really under there!

[@Ve-suvius]

Yeah well, look this video up : GERBER STRONGARM KNIFE - DESTRUCTION TEST - UNTIL IT BREAKS - KNIFE TIP TORTURE TEST - All this talk about full width tang is silly. Nearly all swords in history were stick tang. And did they blast them into opponents !

[@fredde90210]

"Fanboy comment" warning on this vid...hehehehe love the bug freakout.

[@simonstokes369]

The clip point is a beautiful designed knife, the American made one not so much. I think aesthetic value is important.

[@BrothersCinco]

As much as we pretend that looks don't matter, we all know inside that looks so matter. The S1 is elegant. The strong arm looks nice too in a utilitarian sense

[@sirsir9665]

The S1 has been seen to have a bad tip it breaks pretty easy from what I've seen. Go with the other Falkniven

[@mccoy786]

you forgot to mention the gerber rockwell strength

[@MattG247]

I would like to see the Fallkniven S1 vs the Cold Steel SRK in San Mai III. Both look very similar and both steels are comparable.

[@bdcochran01]

Fallkniven used to make the SRK for Cold Steel. Refined the design in to the A1. I have been a dealer, owned a number of knives, know how to maintain them. Most people don't have skills, have no idea how to maintain a blade, and haven't thought out the application. Your choice depends upon right or left handed, age, physical disabilities, knowledge of how to maintain the knife, where you will carry the knife, who will use the knife. Have you ever wondered how a Scandinavian can live in a wooded area and not have to baton a tree or shave his arm. When I read a complaint from someone about a knife arriving dull, I think he is admitting that he doesn't know how to sharpen the same.

[@GodFearingg]

Zero competition for the fallkniven, lets speak the truth please

[@Molhoek_Kees]

Scandinavian knives are better than American is my experience

[@sweetcostarica]

The Fallkniven S1 sheath is better than the Gerber Strongarm's (IMO) because: - The Strongarm's sheath holds it's knife too strongly. I fear I could get cut easily when I tried to un sheath it. - The Strongarm's stealth holds the knife so close, in Winter, if moisture gets in the sheath you get a stuck unusable knife. With the Fallkniven sheath it is designed loose to avoid the problems above.

[@vashonmart]

sweetcostarica I have both and honestly, I hated falkniven sheath for same reason. unless I use the snap, it had no retention. whenever I had to doing something that requires me putting the knife in the sheath and out repeatedly, it annoyed me having snap it so I do not loose the knife. in the end I got kydex sheath and threw away original sheath. while strongarm has retention without the snap so it was wonderful to work with it and not have to worry about loosing the knife.

[@coolplayznogame8855]

sweetcostarica ,,,,if you use the side push tabs it unsheaths really easy,,,the Prodigy was hard at first but after about 25 unsheathings it got a lot easier

[@svenradovic5820]

Falkniven is made in Sweden

[@CedricAda]

nope, made in japan. designed in sweden. they clearly say this

[@stephenyoung3838]

vanilla extract makes flies stay away from you

[@parabelllum8733]

T he Faulniven looks like it belongs in the Kitchen , not the bush . Does nothing a cheaper option cant do . Also you did not give Gerber a $ value for the better Sheath ..... $50 at least

[@totalmayhemleather4030]

Fallkniven is worth the extra money

[@scotthansenmtbt4110]

Fallkniven makes hard use tools. Gerber makes toys that could be used, but don't blow any wind up my kilt. I've never had a Gerber that was worth a crap, and I've owned a few.

[@MrDosonhai]

I'm sorry if I offend some of you but Gerber to me is a second-rate brand for knives. Their steel is always mid-tier. It's Morakniv for budget and Fallkniven for high-end for me. The Swedes really know how to make knives.

[@Wastelander13]

A Fallkniven knife is for a life time and you can inherit it to your children later!

[@I..cast..fireball]

you got bit on the head by a skeeter

[@Texasbushboy]

Gerber could never compete with Fallkniven. Period.

[@CedricAda]

I dunno, depends on how intimate and frequently your needs are for this kind of knife. For the everyday camper or hiker, it would do just fine. You are absolutely right with regqrd to quality though. I'm a big Fallkniven fan. Almost a brand ambassador for the F1 hahah I preach that stuff

[@platzhirsch_survival]

Hikeyourmind I agree with you. If you wanna cut apples go for a gerber. But for survival and bushcraft tasks the fällkniven is way better. I do trips. Sometimes I'm out in the wilderness for several days. If my knife got dull during that time it would be a catastrophy for me. Can not use a knife that doesn't work even if it saved me 50 $. By the way I know 100 inexpensive knives that I would prefer in comparison with the gerber crap.

[@CedricAda]

+Steve Sanders what knife would you categorize as a camp knife and what are the criteria for fitting the role, in your opinion?

[@TheKimjoh560]

I would agree. I find all of the VG-10 knives from Fällkniven are actually quite resonably priced often ranging from €100-200. I know I can probably use mine for the rest of my life if I treat them right so overpriced isnt a word I would use.

[@vashonmart]

I have both and love my S1 very much; however, it is strongarm that rides on my belt when I go out. It is tough knife that take on all kinds of rough jobs. I dig fire pit with it, split reasonable width wood, kitchen duty, carving duty, anything I throw at it it does not fail me. folding saw, small skinning knife and strongarm. I took S1 out once and came home with knick on the blade. my fault I know but core of that blade is too hard. good for holding edge but not for rough work. my beloved S1 is now resting on my wall and I do love her but strongarm stays with me when I need knife.

[@henrikstedt8407]

If you got a fallkniven from Japan, I congratulate to a copy. Originals are made in Sweden.

[@blindfredy6128]

Henrik Stedt Just googled it all Fallkniven knives are made in Seki city Japan.

[@Benakilev]

Henrik is right. The Fällkniven is for sure an Swedish knife company. The name is even Swedish, with a swedish letter - "ä". I'm quite sure the japanese don't use this... Lär dig google rätt om du nu ska google...

[@edgkohlman5581]

Japanese steel blanks then finished in Sweden

[@chrispowell4693]

Bro I hate to beat a dead horse but you have a fake gerber. Look at the serial number on your gerber. There's too many numbers. Just a heads up

[@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531]

Dude this is like comparing a Ferrari to a Ford pinto. Some of y'all's "reviews" are pathetic. I can go to Walmart and buy the cheapest Ozark trail they have and do everything you did here. There was no test or comparison. A knife is a knife. The only difference is some are made better than others.

[@CedricAda]

Big shoutout to the people who can watch a vid, or scroll past one they dont dig without being needlessly intense in the comments

[@Barrypful]

What a biasedreview lol tell you I get the fall- try banging into a tree and then try to climb up on it, or stab into wood deep and pry up on it I guarantee your knife will break and the guards are much better on the Strongarm, as well as the sheath there's no comparison. However I do like the fallniven very much as well as your review, and if the StrongArm had as good of steal as VG10 it would be a blowout. And the savings about $90.00 man a person could buy a lot of extra gear DONE. 😠 and the WINNER IS THE STRONGARM.

[@CedricAda]

+BarryP Biased? I have a hearty predisposition towards both knives, I like em both a lot. Its a comparison, not a review. I think I highlighted the pros and cons of each sufficiently?

[@markojankovic-personal351]

To me, the S1 is a much better looking knife.

[@harrydaniels1613]

Fallkniven is way better than Gerber. Ya get what ya pay for.

[@alberez1957]

All the comparisons you make are not really valid in terms of price, except for the steel and blade construction. VG10 is a far, far superior steel than 420HC. The Fallkniven is made in San-Mai style, which is a laminated blade with a high carbon core and a stainless outer layer, which makes the construction justifiably more expensive than the one from the Gerber. I wouldn't buy any knife that uses 420HC except for Buck, which introduced that steel in the market and has a proprietary quenching system which makes the steel tougher than the same steel used by other manufacturers. Your comparisons are highly subjective and uninformed to say the least.

[@CedricAda]

Alberto Perez-Pfeifer In what way are they uninformed? I would suggest the opinion of someone who owns both knives and has used both extensively are fairly informed. I am trying to say that its possible to get a good knife with the basic capabilities of the S1 for a low cost

[@jamesreese1999]

I have to agree with Cedric!

[@alberez1957]

That's not what I said. I completely agree that you can get an excellent knife for much less than the S-1. That's not the point. When you compare pears and apples, the comparison is unfair, because you are comparing things that are different. Any car would get you from point A to point B, but comparing a Kia (Gerber) with a Mercedes (Fallkniven) is absurd, above all if you just don't know why one is far better than the other. You have to start considering the premise that there's a reason for the price difference. He doesn't. You don't review things that you don't know.

[@stalememe6407]

Alberto Perez-Pfeifer far far superior? Lol I never new chipping was superior feature, plus it's harder to sharpen and the edge holding difference between both steels are so marginal in real world use you can't tell the difference.

[@Ve-suvius]

GERBER STRONGARM KNIFE - DESTRUCTION TEST - UNTIL IT BREAKS - KNIFE TIP TORTURE TEST - Look that up. That's toughness for you. Let's see how the S1 holds up.