SHEEPSKIN vs DOWN WINTER JACKETS - What is the Right Choice for You?

[@Drmanipnoid]

Both have different purposes. I won't take my shearling bomber jacket on a hike. That's where I'll have my down jacket in my backpack. When there's exercise involved it's easy to overheat and you need to stash the big jacket away. A shearling jacket doesn't stash easily. When it comes to low movement such as driving at -10 c with windows down, winter camp with bonfire, walking slow through brush, going to the bar etc, its the shearling jacket. The shearling jacket is my daily winter jacket to work, around home, playing with kids in the snow. I use it 90% of winter to my down jacket at 10%. It's tough, ultra warm, looks amazing and will most likely outlive me. The down is often a backup in my car for exercise or for car breakdown for others.

[@marcushynek7075]

Exactly down is for performance when you are generating body heat. I just now in the last year got a proper shell, and down mid layer coat. Wool base layer obviously. In WI we routinely spend a month below-30F. I have a sheep skin on the way but my experience with wool it should preform my every day tasks quite well

[@shark6213]

Sheepskin is style staple and just plain gorgeous. I have a Moncler too but always come back to my sheepskin I just feel it’s the rolls Royce of Jackets

[@siblilngs101]

Definitely a fan of wool! We’ve had an unusually cool winter here where I live and nothing beats a couple layers of wool and a windbreaker.

[@CeeAreDee]

I always found that my wool jackets were not warm enough under about 0 degrees.

[@JB-ou6fl]

I like how you outlined the pros and cons of both types of jackets. This video is well done!

[@ianarn]

I bought my sheepskin coat from The British Sheepskin company! They have a great website and it has already lasted 5 years of British winters for me! Far more than the down North Face jackets that I bought which were like wearing a bin liner and we’re not as durable or moisture wicking than the natural shearling. True it’s not waterproof but I just use an umbrella anyway.

[@CeeAreDee]

I’m gonna check that out.

[@IamEWoof]

I just ordered a sheepskin coat from eBay that is supposed to arrive today. Can’t wait. I sleep on sheepskin pelts too on top of my mattress.

[@CeeAreDee]

Hope it was good!

[@Tiger24kicks]

Give me the sheep skin any day.

[@CeeAreDee]

Yeah, my style too.

[@varun009]

I have a black m51 fishtail pattern parka from China. They're really popular there and they come with interchangeable liners and hood fur. You can get rabbit fur, synthetic and down liners for them. Bought the fur and synthetic liners (down tends to come out in the wash) as well as 2 real and 4 faux fur ruffs. However, this is something I would wear on vacation. In the city, even down to - 15 C, I like to wear 24-32oz wool long coats and pea coats. As heavy as sheepskin but lower maintenance and more durable.

[@eingames9931]

Got a sheepskin a month and a half ago. Been loving it. Just need some breaking in the collar to look around while driving and that might need another year or so, but I'm sure it'll happen.

[@CeeAreDee]

Good things take time.

[@sh4969]

My 100% Irvin sheepskin jacket cost me £120.00 that was from a antique shop in York. If you want a new one goto House of Leather amazon b3 jacket or raf jacket £329.00 hope this helps

[@francisfishing4913]

Sheepskin is definitely the more ethical choice I think, it's really durable and long lasting. I'd suggest buying from a local brand that can tell you whrre they source the wool from

[@MetaVizions]

This is what I’m saying. Almost like a gun for self defense. Big out right purchase, lifelong value if maintained properly!! It really would pay for itself over the years. Wool doesn’t do it, down has its downs lel. Shearling it’s best value for $$$ over time. If you live in a cold climate & whether intend to stay or not, a quality, life saving, and convenient winter coat is necessary for any family or person.

[@phrayzar]

If you are buying a down jacket for very cold conditions, look for non sewn through baffles(or box baffles) this prevents the down from migrating, while eliminating the cold spots created by sewn through baffles. A technique also used in high quality down winter sleeping bags.

[@CeeAreDee]

Nice! You make a good point there. Never considered that.

[@UltimateAleks]

Where online can I buy that down jacket?

[@Barnaby_bo]

I'm constantly amazed at what you can pick up these days second hand. I bought a beautiful chocolate brown Nurseys sheepskin coat on ebay in fantastic condition for how much? Fifteen quid.

[@MarkSenger]

Alberta Canada 🇨🇦 here and I have alot of wool for the cold and the most important thing for me is something that keeps me from being wet, being soggy kills in minus 40c

[@StealthFX9]

A good classic wool coat and layering are your friends in winter. For less than 600 bucks...

[@CeeAreDee]

Yeah? I find wool only works down to 0 degrees for me.

[@StealthFX9]

@@CeeAreDee That's why I said "... and layering", Matt! 😏 I wear a Merino wool shirt (long sleeve, 200 g) as a base layer, a knitted turtleneck sweater + sometimes a cardigan under my wool coat, which has a thermal lining. This combination works very well below 0°C!

[@mateotrono]

I have the Todd Snyder x Crescent Downworks currently, and also a B3 shearling bomber from some no name brand (it’s definitely real and well made, just got it secondhand). Both are awesome investments. Side note: I think that Crescent Down Works does a way better down jacket than Moncler or Canada Goose (I’ve had both). It’s lighter and warmer, their nylon feels better too on skin if you wear just a t-shirt under

[@CeeAreDee]

I agree. Also, the Crescent Downworks folks are just so damn nice. I like to support a family business.

[@mateotrono]

I’m from the PNW so Crescent Down Works is only like 3 hours from me. They are truly great people and many of my friends and family have been longtime supporters

[@jamessmith4455]

Which is warmer when you’re not moving outside?

[@mateotrono]

@@jamessmith4455 down is warmer

[@jamessmith4455]

@@mateotrono thanks. I’m trying to decide between the two for my next coat but I have my reservations about down. I see the drawbacks with feathers poking through and flattening so quickly. But it does seem warmer.

[@lsuronak1992]

Which Luke you guys vining with? I’m thinking of Luke from the Bible!

[@CeeAreDee]

More Skywalker.

[@MrGilMoNayO]

After a 4-mile walk in my shearling bomber in 25° weather with only a t-shirt on underneath it the T-shirt is soaking wet from top to bottom. I don't actually have to wear anything under it. I've never experienced anything even close to how warm and protected a shearling bomber keeps you. Correction, in my experience.

[@thesheepthemightythecrazy]

I thought it is suppose to be breathable? not making you sweat as much?

[@MrGilMoNayO]

@@thesheepthemightythecrazy it's breathable when I keep the exterior waist latches loose and the top a bit unzipped. The other night I was walking in minus 2° Fahrenheit and a little sweat

[@thesheepthemightythecrazy]

@@MrGilMoNayO ahh ok. I am doing research and deciding if I want to buy one.

[@xaviermorales331]

I’d love to know the company of that cardigan.

[@CeeAreDee]

That’s from Nigel Cabourn. But it’s a jumper with a shawl collar.

[@wadsworth2351]

What's the name of the leather company you mention in the video?

[@CeeAreDee]

Simmons Bilt. Amazing jackets. Amazing people.

[@wadsworth2351]

@@CeeAreDee I am on the waiting list for the ANJ-4 jacket that they make exclusively for Iron Heart. Can't wait to get my hands on it ;-)

[@CeeAreDee]

@@wadsworth2351 ah nice. Go on a be amazing. I tried one on when I was at the factory last. Brilliant jacket!

[@wadsworth2351]

@@CeeAreDee I made the decision thanks to you and your enthusiastic remark on them ;-)

[@neiltutty6952]

Who makes a quality leather coat filled with down?

[@CeeAreDee]

For a jacket I’m not sure. But Rocky Mountain featherbed makes some great vests.

[@nathanrigger15]

Buffalo jackson trading co makes one

[@colmcgillveray1010]

Are you no fae Aberdeen or there aboots?

[@CeeAreDee]

Nope. Down Clackmannanshire way.

[@robpeters2296]

Is that F or C?

[@ignus16]

just discovered Simmons Built from this video - seriously cool looking jackets.. better start saving so!

[@ignus16]

Simmons Bilt*

[@CeeAreDee]

Super nice people too!

[@alexanderaitchison8730]

Mate I'm in Scotland too and I'm having trouble finding shop I can pop into to get a decent sheepskin. Could you recommend anywhere, looking for somewhere I can go in and try it on in person so preferably an actual shop.

[@CeeAreDee]

Ooft. Not too sure. It’s been over a decade since I lived there. Simmons Bilt are in the borders. Maybe give them a call and ask where you can try one on or if they have some stock that you could try. They are super nice folks.

[@alexanderaitchison8730]

@@CeeAreDee cheers mate

[@terrym1964]

@@alexanderaitchison8730 you may want to check out Aero leather in Galashiels...I'm surprised you haven't heard of them. They produce some of the world's best leather / sheepskin replicas. I received my Aero B6 today and quality is amazing. It was made to measure when I visited their factory Good luck 👍

[@JakubVincencNovak]

-14 today on southwest near Prague

[@CeeAreDee]

You'll need one of those options then.

[@demon_slayers1016]

great vid you only forgot to mention the british irwin sheepskin jacket

[@jf8138]

Love my down and sheepskin coats. I have an Overland Shearling Jacket, and plenty of down jackets of different fills and levels of coverage. It really does come down to what you are willing to spend or what fits your lifestyle etc

[@SubjectiveFunny]

I have both, sheepskin was £600 and I feel like a gangster when I wear it. Although it's heavy and not practical at all when it's raining.. The down puffer is super practical but lacks style and feels like 1 snag and it's gonna be ruined.. I also have a Swedish military jacket from WW2, made from thick sheepskin on the inside and cavas on the outside. That thing feels bulletproof, although it weighs over 6kg..

[@Richard_Lush]

I love Berlin. Wonderful city. Lots of WW2 history. I was there in 2012. You can still see battle scars on a lots of the buildings. I’m assuming you’re now in Berlin per the video. Your videos are great👍 I’ve got both. Sheepskin is great ( I’ve had both the B-6 from Eastman and Real McCoy D-1 when they were made in NZ). But my Patagonia down and my 1996 retro Nuptse North Face are best in really cold weather here in Alberta Canada. Originally used them for belaying when ice climbing. Easily packable and easy to carry in a pack when not in use. You should really have both

[@rickerson81]

Yeah, sheepskin any day. But like he said, it depends on your fashion sense and even body type I think. The B3 bomber jacket and peacoats match my physique but put me in a puffy down jacket and I look and feel like a dork. It's pretty subjective.

[@40pike96]

yeah man it was a good video. try look for used or last stock as these prices are retail at the end of the day and possible to get 50% off from rich people who gifted a b3 jacket and its just never used.

[@aznseeker]

Which company do you think is good for Sheepskin...which in UK that would ship to US and which US company (that you know off)?

[@CeeAreDee]

Simmons Bilt is the best one I know and I’ve had experience with. They ship to the USA for sure. Schott seem to do a good one too.

[@jimli420]

Down is used in more harsh conditions so I’d probably go that route

[@CeeAreDee]

You in a colder climate?

[@luisdejesus3662]

EXCELLENT VIDEO!!! I AGREE SHEEP IS MUCH BETTER!!! DOWN WELL HIGH QUALITY GOOSE DOWN IS JUST AS GOOD ON OCCAXION....AND DEPENDING ON ACTIVITY OR JUST WALKING AROUND. THANK YOU FOR HELPING ME I OWN BOTH..BUT I LEAN TO MY BAD BOY THE SHEEP FULL LENGTH SOLDIER DOUBLE BREASTED TRENCH SHEEP COAT!! HAVE A BLESSED ONE!!!

[@CeeAreDee]

Thanks for the kind words Luis. Have a good one buddy.

[@MrDedpool1]

When it comes to price, I'll stick with my packable down jacket I got on sale from uniqlo 😅

[@CeeAreDee]

Whatever works Case, just rock with it!

[@NetMillionaire]

I have both, but my sheep skin, feels and looks amazing 🤩

[@steffen4692]

Now that it is winter again, I am tempted by one but not sure how much wear I would be getting out of it...though I am tempted^^ What is your experience (since I live in a similar climate or even sometimes in Berlin)? Is it worth getting one when it ends up in the closet for 360 days a year? Or are they also wearable in our more moderate central European winters?

[@achannel127]

You can start using a sheepskin or down jacket from +7°C and be comfortable (It depends also from humidity). There are many types of down jackets, you can buy a lighter, shorter one so you can also put It on from +12°C. I have both and personally enjoy the sheepskin a lot more, but the down jacket is more practical.

[@AsanKaliqAllah]

B3 with the hood is my good to

[@CeeAreDee]

Good shout.

[@WehrmachtKradschutzen]

B3 from Schott is good but pricey I recommend getting it from EBay for a cheaper price

[@CeeAreDee]

That’s a good shout. Buying second hand is always a good idea.

[@bobthestinky7369]

Down for waterproof weather wear, sheepskin for pure warmth (and drip).

[@dahak972]

That intro music is awesome! Great video!

[@CeeAreDee]

Thanks Chuck.

[@jacklll2631]

At what temperature you usually wear sheepskin jacket?

[@CeeAreDee]

Anywhere from about 5 degrees down.

[@jacklll2631]

@@CeeAreDee My previous question was kind of dumb since you already answered it in the video. Anywayyyy... What are your thoughts when we compare high end down jacket against sheepskin leather jacket at -10°c to -20°C? Let's say Canada Goose since it got some preset temperature ranks. How would different leather thicknesses matter (15mm or 18mm?) I'm being specific here since I'm considering buying a sheepskin jacket but I'm not sure can it hold against freezing hell. And yes, everyone can handle cold differently but I don't know shit about leather jackets :D Danke schön!

[@alakhazom]

​@@jacklll2631 I'm gonna chime in. I live in Romania,and i think it gets a little chillier than Germany.I have a sheepskin that i had worn at -20C with just a shirt underneath. That's it.Normally i just wear a tshirt,if you can believe it. As i am a leather aficionado,this being my second sheepskin,plus other leather jackets,leather by itself is cold as ice in chilly temperatures. You don't have to look for the thickness of the leather,but of the fur that's attached to it. It kinda makes a small difference.But i assume most sold online are thick enough. Another thing that i would suggest is to look for a model that you can zip up all the way-it's extremely useful. The ones that have a full zipper from top to bottom,have also wide collars. That means that if you zip it up all the way,it goes to your eyes.Just a beanie on top,and you're isolated from the elements.Only your eyes are visible,ha ha. No need for neck scarfs,and other cumbersome things. And nothing gets through the leather,not even water. I'll post you the links on the website were i bought it from,it's really good quality,highy recommended. Plus it's way cheaper than what you can get it western europe or CanUsa. www.aavesa.com/product/men-sheepskin-jacket-323p/ This is the exact model that i have,and it's the black one. Full black. That's another thing i recommend,get one that's dark. I had a brown one(brown leather and brown fur) and it gets kinda colored,after a while(white fur is even worst). With a dark leather and dark fur one,you don't have that problem-it stays dark for ever,and muck and dirt are not visible(pure black it's the best,like i have). Also,if you look at an very old bomber jacket,the leather stayed ok(dark color) but the fur looks very oldish. That's my 2 cents on that. But feel free to browse that site,they have more "expensive" models too. I went to Australia and was shocked how expensive a jacket like mine was,3-4 times the price,and the design was more flimsy,even. Also to note,it's heavy,as all are. BUT tough,like no other. Apparently the company delivers worldwide,so probably can be sent your way. The idea is if you buy from from somewhere in Eastern Europe,it's gonna be cheaper. Way cheaper. Also,if you buy it from your country in the west,avoid fashion brands made sheepskins. They are obscenely priced-if you go local,go for a brand that specializes in these things.

[@jacklll2631]

@@alakhazom Thank you so much!

[@alakhazom]

@@jacklll2631 Of course,hope it puts things in perspective. Ah,and btw i would recommend getting one with easy acces to pockets(if they have a zipper is ok),they come in useful.Almost all sheepskins don't have interior pockets keep that in mind. Another thing to look for is where the main zipper is,if they have a windbreak,so to speak. A small layer of fabric (leather behind the zipper,so wind desn't come through. It's not a biggie at all,but kinda helps. Also,i suppose you can look at second hands in your area,maybe you can snuck up on a cheaper one,that looks nice. Thrifts stores and all that. They look awesome anyways,and are quite durable for decades. If you look at what northern tribes wear,it's always a form of natural stuff. Now imagine a jacket like this,made from reindeer. That would be even warmer,i suppose.

[@simonpijnenburg4406]

an n1 deck jacket also has a alpaca/wool linging…

[@abdullahal-shimri3091]

Down jackets for every day wear and sheepskin for special occasions.

[@CeeAreDee]

Yeah. That sounds about right

[@AaronsRandomLife]

Cant find your Instagram???

[@devinhurt7698]

Cee.are.dee should be the first account to pop up

[@CeeAreDee]

instagram.com/cee.are.dee/

[@AaronsRandomLife]

@@CeeAreDee I figured it out. You must have blocked me because of my negative posts about LVC.

[@CeeAreDee]

@@AaronsRandomLife if I did that intentionally , buddy must have been quite a nasty post. I can count on one hand the number of accounts I’ve blocked and that was only done for quite extreme reasons.

[@AaronsRandomLife]

@@CeeAreDee im honestly not enitirely sure. I don't post disrespectful stuff. Just the truth. Companies like LVC and LL Bean that sell stuff based on their former image at inflated prices is really bothersome to me as I live not far from where LL Bean used to manufacture their clothing and also 20 minutes from the Southwick clothing factory that just closed and it breaks my heart. I dont actually remember having any sort of disagreement with you directly.

[@dahak972]

That intro music is awesome!

[@CeeAreDee]

🙌🏻

[@dwargonedragon794]

Sheepskin is leather, getting it wet from snow can damage it. You can't roll around snow and do snowball fights with it. There's a reason why fur coats have the fur on the outside. A 600 or more fill powered down parka is superior to sheepskin in terms of pure warmth. The polyester shell and nylon lining, however, is a turn off when it comes to eco-friendliness. Sure it is water repellent, windproof, sweat wicking, etc but it goes against my principle of trying to be as natural as possible. But that's just me nitpicking like a spoiled tree-hugger. Then there's the waxed cotton/wool shell with cotton lining down parkas like Manifattura's. Even more expensive than traditional synthetics. I'm tempted to try it next winter but I'm concerned about my sweat soaking through the cotton lining and weakening the insulation. There's also the wool filling used instead of down. I wonder how it will function compared to down or shearling...

[@ask00001]

Sheep get wet all the time. No problem. :) My motorcycle jackets get soaked regularly and they last over 20 years.

[@miropaananen1037]

You should have shown the jackets you have!

[@calebgasca]

Here in so call it’s more of a hoodie or long sleeve shirt debate. I’d love to have the options to wear big jackets but with 60 degree lows I don’t think that’s an option😂

[@CeeAreDee]

Haha, I would swap that for the berlin winters any day!

[@charlesbronson240]

This Detroit winter hasn’t really been below 20. A 20 oz fleece hoodie and a 15 oz denim jacket has been fine.

[@CeeAreDee]

Dosnt it get down really cold there? Has it just been a warm winter?

[@DexRobinson]

People in Europe are always wearing something called a "jumper" and, one day, I'll figure out what a jumper is :).

[@splashpit]

They are a pair of trousers that we use when we trampoline to help us jump

[@aronmcinnes8313]

Fur, wool and down that are humanly and sustainable sourced are a better choice for the environment. They can be heirloom items however they are biodegradable and will not turn into micro plastic.

[@BookwormSkates]

Great video appreciate the comparison.

[@CeeAreDee]

Thank you. You’re welcome

[@jonathanpforr3844]

Wait fast forwarding a vid of yours? I think NOT! 😆 🔥

[@CeeAreDee]

Haha, cheers buddy!

[@robcaputo9708]

Wow after so many videos you finally did a bad one. There’s plenty plenty of very good down jackets that cost under $150 Canadian. They’re very warm very good. Sure Goose down is the warmest down but guess what duck is also warm and it’s cheap cheap. I can send you links if you want but I have two lovely down coats that I’ve lasted me for years. I live in Canada I laugh at -2° and -5° you’ve got to be kidding we get -20, -30, -40. And these things work just fine you’re after year. Still enjoy your channel so much I can’t bring myself to give you a negative thumbs down. Just can’t do it it

[@CeeAreDee]

Rob, I totally admit at the beginning of the vid that I am a soft European city boy. As to the cheaper duck down jackets. As I also mention in the sustainability and ethics section of the video, down comes with it's own set of ethical issues and ethical down is expensive. The cruelty aspect of non ethical down would make these cheaper jackets a no go for me. But really buddy. I very much appreciate you saying that you enjoy the videos. And just cause we see things differently in this case, it's awesome that you are not just automatically giving it a thumbs down. I appreciate that big picture approach. Cheers and stay warm!

[@robcaputo9708]

@@CeeAreDee i hope you heard the backhanded compliments in my comments.people eat ducks why waste the down.

[@robcaputo9708]

@@CeeAreDee wow I just viewed a vid on goose down collection - I thought it was done like in Canada where the down is collected after the eggs hatch in the wild. Some of this is very cruel. I had no idea. I have to be more careful.

[@Orion_TheyThem]

@@robcaputo9708 you're quite a rude one, aren't you?? Why does he Need to hear the backhanded compliments. You're very arrogant. Maybe next time you disagree with someone, just keep scrolling instead of being so toxic??

[@splashpit]

Are decathlon in your country ? Their home brand down jackets rate very well.

[@CAFEAE319]

Nice one, bruh.

[@CeeAreDee]

Appreciated

[@lawrenceh7182]

Sheepskin all day er day!

[@CeeAreDee]

Yeah, I am a sheepskin fan myself

[@sluggo562]

It's called layering and there's nothing novel about it. You kind of lock yourself out of that in a B-3, especially with mild temperatures there will be no adjustability at all, just a T shirt and the sheepskin. I swear you hipsters live on another planet, wearing all this auspicious high priced mint condition vintage work wear having never put a hard days work in the elements in your lives.

[@CeeAreDee]

I guess all the hard days toil you’re putting in is guarding that tiny, tiny gate.

[@chawenhalo0089]

Animal ethics are so important...until I get foie gras on my plate...

[@CeeAreDee]

Never got a taste for it.

[@colmcgillveray1010]

Warehouse Eddie Bauer weather.

[@CeeAreDee]

They do super good stuff. Have a gillet from them

[@optimistprime2751]

Don't wash either of these jackets. Neither of them are supposed to get wet. Down just stops working forever. And leather cracks after it dries

[@The_Zilli]

bison, water buffalo, cowhide are all better options than sheepskin due the fact that the leather is cheaper - the prices that you mentioned are inflated through the rough. You can pick up quality leather for far FAR cheaper than what you're listing. As for down jackets, meh...

[@billlyell8322]

I disagree. Wool base layers and fur outer layers is best. Yes its heavy but id rather have heavy and keep my fingers and toes.

[@jeanettewest]

When you are cold, screw "ethics and sustainability"; you want to survive. You do NOT have to spend big dollars on good clothing, note I say clothing and not fashion. $1500 USD will get you a Canada Goose Expedition, same as Apocalypse Design or half that for Fjallraven. Problem with heavy winter clothing is it is bulky so elevators and cars will be a challenge. They aren't fashionable, but they'll keep you warm. I wore a Canada Goose parka in Prudhoe Bay, Alaska and Apocalypse Design while attending university in Fairbanks, Alaska USA. Don't buy a name, buy for function.

[@beheritser]

Sheepskin is King, nothing close to it.

[@CeeAreDee]

Yeah. I am with you!

[@RenoLaringo]

3000 eur totally worth it?!? Are you kidding? Maybe only if you want to go hunting penguins, but other than that any reasonable winter jacket (fur is best) won't cost you much more than 500,-. Jesus Christ, no wonder all prices are skyrocketting if people start to believe paying 3000eur for a jacket is something normal.

[@CeeAreDee]

I guess it depends on what you’re looking for.

[@RedHanded1969]

Totally unnecessary.. Goto used clothes store & military surplus.. $100 goes along way in keeping you warm & still look good.. What a waste of money, its just fashion..

[@peronotec.7445]

Sheep skin is too ridiculous for the city 😂I don't want that people through stones to me 😮 because of the jacket 😅

[@daks4s]

If down gets wet its useless!

[@CeeAreDee]

True that. Good for layering under I guess

[@itsmebutters978]

Nice!!! All I have to do is sell my soul to afford this rubbish... Jealous.

[@CeeAreDee]

😂 it was my liver I sold. Couldn’t get enough for my soul.

[@phymat1]

I've purchased two sheepskin coats from that famous online auction website. Both coats were in excellent condition and have been lovely these past few winters and were under fifty quid each. Would recommend to anyone who doesn't quite have the budget of a new jacket. Still get the classic style and helps to reduce waste a tiny bit. Win-win.

[@billlyell8322]

Synthetics use fossil fuels!

[@tomrudd3271]

In the 1970s when L L bean had quality clothing, unlike now, they sold the Polar Parka, godd to minus 70 degrees. It blows away the sheepskin. Sorry leather lovers

[@tomasparra720]

Frankfurt southern european? Italy, Spain and Portugal: 🧐

[@sssnrrr]

my thoughts exactly haha

[@CeeAreDee]

everything is relative.