Celebrity 'Courtcore': how and why celebs dress up for trial

[@2cool2bhot89]

The greatest crime being commited here is the fact "Courture" was right there and we're using courtcore 😭

[@ghadakameche2248]

Omg this is 🔥

[@illogical001]

I read it as Courture and thought it was so funny 💀💀💀

[@ifyoulikepinacolada254]

@@illogical001 i love that yours is the exact same yet ik what you mean 😭😭

[@illogical001]

@@ifyoulikepinacolada254 no, I mean I read it as Courture (what OP said) instead of Courtcore (what the actual title says)😭😭🤣

[@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195]

@@illogical001 same!

[@petrab.7780]

I agree that Paltrow’s antics are ridiculous to the point of entertainment, but the larger part of me knows she ISNT doing it as a parody and is completely serious, and that honestly terrifies me

[@TimothyCHenderson]

Yeah, it's a business. It's quaint to call it camp and funny but she's selling scams. Not cool.

[@nastassjahall9358]

Yeah, it just infuriates me

[@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195]

is is terrifying

[@leeeberle4322]

Paltrow was a third rate actress who won an undeserved Oscar by sleeping with uncle Harvey. The trial showed the world what a pretentious twit she is.

[@abbymyers5072]

Nah she’s in on the joke and knowingly stokes the fires. Watch her speech to Harvard business school a few years ago where she tells them that outrage drives revenue for GOOP.

[@kendrickloo2929]

First Lady's outfits are another type of outfit that gets detailed analysis on par with courtroom outfits. I'd love to see a video on that if it's in your area/wishlist!

[@jo_jo_jo]

I would love an a analysis about the presidential family aesthetic. You know, the Kennedy's and all that Hyannis Port vibe.

[@sarahwatts7152]

Plus maybe a bit of commentary on how British royals are supposed to dress vs. USA presidential fashion

[@kdlf333]

I love this!!

[@agelesstailoress]

A great book about this is “Why They Wore: The Politics and Pop Culture of First Ladies Fashion” which is all about the fashion choices and their political/social impact during their time goes from Martha Washington to Melina Trump. It a great mix of pictures and text.

[@cassiea13245678]

I love how the show Veep leans into this too!

[@latedala07]

I was fascinated with how Elizabeth Holmes dressed in her criminal trials compared to how she dressed during her business “heyday.” During her business, she emulated Steve Jobs, with minimalist, masculine black turtlenecks and simple androgynous pantsuits. No dresses, hair back, makeup that emphasized the intensity of her gaze and sharpness of her features. In her trial, she was dressed in pastels, dresses, soft silhouettes or feminine suits, with her hair down and curled and makeup minimal, dewy and gentle. Absolutely fascinating, particularly since it was such a departure from her intentionally “assertive boy genius” appearance of her business persona.

[@emma-fy1xi]

plus emphasizing her pregnancy bump...

[@andi-pj3ro]

they mention this dichotomy quite a bit in the new NYT house-stay interview of Elizabeth!

[@wplants9793]

She’s rebranding herself as a mother. Because how could you put a mother behind bars! (It is actually terrible to separate babies and moms when the mom has to go to jail esp right after birth)

[@booksattack]

as a law student that is going to attend an international moot court before the european court of human rights in 2-3 weeks and has, therefore, been carefully choosing her outfits for each pleading, i am LIVING for this video

[@entropy3615]

You better slay lol! And Goodluck! Also don't know if the youths are still saying slay 🤷‍♀️

[@peaceflowerstudios6833]

Girboss 💅💅💅

[@lockheart619]

Okay Elle Woods! 💃

[@matilda_stay7053]

Good luck you're going to look amazing for sure 🤍

[@distantraveller9876]

Why does every law student feel the need to tell people they're going to law school? We literally don't care lol

[@graywithana127]

as an autistic person, body language experts seem super unreliable. "She's not making eye contact and fidgeting so she must be lying" nah I just have autism

[@cannibalisticrequiem]

I mean, Body Language Experts, _real_ Body Language Experts, are meant to work within the criminal justice system to help law enforcement track down murderers. (And that is ideally, when the police officers involved aren't being their usual incompetent selves, going after the wrong person out of racial bias, or not taking cases seriously out of that same racial or misogynistic bias.) The problem comes when every John or Jane-come-lately with a phone, a TikTok, and an unhealthy obsession with True Crime starts claiming to be "Body Language Experts" with no certifications and a desire for their 15 minutes of fame. Because that's when it gets messy with a bunch of contradictions because some internet rando with a hard-on for Johnny Depp, or just wants to take a person down out of spite. I feel like _actual_ Body Language Experts will, or _should_ , take someone's mental illness into account-- because, y'know, that's what they went to school, got all that training, and were certified for. "Body Language Experts" that are Terminally Online and live on TikTok aren't going to be taking small details and nuances into account, because they just want the dopamine rush of people listening to them and getting their "engagement".

[@tedddybear]

@@cannibalisticrequiem I def agree with what you’ve said, just wanted to make sure you were aware autism isn’t a mental illness 😅 (I think you have good intentions, just wanted to point out it’s a neurodevelopmental disorder!)

[@MayaMickaMicak]

I've heard that there's no scientific evidence behind that body language stuff anyways, it's more like pseudoscience, and you see what you want to see. There are no universal ways our bodies and faces move when we lie or tell the truth. There are also some great KZbin videos explaining the evidence (or lack thereof) behind it, if you want I can link it to you Sorry if my English is bad, it's not my native language, hope you have a great day! ❤

[@morley364]

'She's bouncing her leg so she's nervous and lying' I have ADHD, I'm just vibing.

[@elenymm]

I am by no means an expert on the topic, but I've studied body language enough to know that part of what makes it tricky is that you have to take a lot into account. Gestures are usually watched in clusters, not in isolation and circumstances impact their meaning. Also, subjects usually have to be watched for a while so their idiosyncrasies can be noted and base line established.

[@imsoboredhahaha]

Amy Winehouse’s court looks were great. Her hair in her classic beehive hair, her eyeliner perfectly applied, oversized blouse and fitted blazer, a black mini skirt, her classic ballet slippers and a cigarette in her mouth. She was iconic. *there was another one where she wore a bright floral mini dress, a black cropped cardigan and beige heals.

[@LotusesGalaxyOcean]

I think you have touched on a pivotal issue. Many of these celebrities do not adapt their image to court well. And then they also do not further adapt it to the message they are trying to send at the moment. Gwenyth Paltrow did both. Often celebrities try to flip their image in court conflicting with their known character.

[@distantraveller9876]

She was a drug addict and an alcoholic who died at 27 but yeah, otherwise super classy...

[@deezpistachionuts]

@@distantraveller9876 Burn. Damn, you're so cool.

[@hamiltontrash9255]

​@@distantraveller9876and? Nothing to do with her style being classy

[@distantraveller9876]

@@hamiltontrash9255 She was trashy as hell, Amy's whole style was kinda trashy with the cigarettes and heavy drug use and even her clothing choices. Maybe we have different definitions on what "classy" looks like but traditionally it's the opposite of "trashy". Amy Winehouse literally looked like she just came out of a trailer park. Still love her music though, no hate.

[@michellelee7846]

Multiple psych professors of mine had a vehemet grudge against lie detector tests so know you're not alone, Mina.

[@cannibalisticrequiem]

I mean... I feel like it's pretty common knowledge in 2023 that lie detector tests are not accurate as someone can easily manipulate them into a false indication of telling the truth when they're not, and on the other side of the coin, said tests could lead an innocent person into a guilty verdict. Like, we figured that out years ago, so why people are still acting like they're being used as a "reliable" source of information for court cases is confusing.

[@morley364]

To say nothing of 'body language experts'. So much of what's out there is garbage, and it's so obvious when people just pick out things and twist them to support the narrative they already had in their head.

[@avasava7720]

Well it’s not just your suspicions. It’s literally physiologically proven that lie detector tests (a measure of limited domains) are easily manipulated. Also, if you’ve ever watched nearly any lie detector test from a big creator on youtube, they all use the same person..

[@awdatzya]

as far as i know, lie detector tests cannot be used as evidence anymore since they were so unreliable

[@distantraveller9876]

@@avasava7720 It's not just that they are easily manipulated and falsifiable like an IQ test, it's also a question of them being unreliable measures of wether someone is lying or not. If a person is anxious or nervous it could easily result in a false positive.

[@Laundrification]

As an autistic person, my entire life I've had people think I was lying because I either was avoiding eye contact, or trying to maintain eye contact too intensely, lmao.

[@jeposaurusrex]

Same. I never know if I’m doing too much or not enough so now I just stare past ppl into the void.

[@elenymm]

Yeah, some people when they lie look others in the eyes more to see if the lie is believed or not. Your different behavior registers as unusual and suspect because we make that judgement in a matter of seconds, but I'm sure when people get to know you they adapt.

[@FuzzyKittenBoots]

@@elenymm No, there is no reliable evidence for people avoiding eye contact *or* deliberate eye contact when lying and the people claiming there is are so damn bad. The participants being studied are *told* to either lie or tell the truth. Do you know who also tend to make excessive amounts of eye contact? Beginner theatre students.

[@alvadenbezta777]

@@jeposaurusrex this is too relatable

[@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195]

Same, also when I was nervous when actually interrogated about something, i was scared to fidget so i kept very still - and apparently me being “too calm” meant i was guilty So you can’t move but you can’t not move wtf

[@Chuuzus]

Lil Kim’s court outfits in 2005 could be a coffee table look book and I would buy it

[@cb9825]

I searched for the photos. those outfits are amazing🤩 seems like a professional stylist worked with her.

[@louis-ol1rb]

YES.

[@Zeverinsen]

@@cb9825 She was styled by Marc Jacobs, so yes!

[@mqk1697]

This is the first time I’ve ever disagreed with a take. Cardi was convicted for having 2 women violently physically assaulted because her husband was cheating with them. She purposefully chose to glamorize assault with flamboyant outfits and was given a warning by the judge not to use it as 'a fashion show'. It was disturbing and to deliberately signal she didn’t take her crime serious, nothing to do with comfort

[@troublenabubble2571]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@reba738]

@@troublenabubble2571 what's so funny?

[@troublenabubble2571]

@@reba738 uh, your paragraph about how someone else feels about what they went through, tf. Goofy ass

[@_nia1565]

I'm not from US so I don't really know much about it, but I think in the video she's talking about another trial

[@mqk1697]

@@_nia1565 it’s the same trial, she says so at 21:51

[@CHLOEDEATHGOD]

I hate Gywneth and her company goop. I work in a health supplement shop, and the idea of selling a product that would hurt your customers is disgusting (the jade egg situation was very disturbing). I do agree that she's an actress and is very good at her job of making people think she is kind and sweet and a "funny character." To me, this woman is cold and calculated.

[@lordfreerealestate8302]

I took issue with this as well. Controversial celebs will lean into memes and goofy personas to evade accountability.

[@Inthepotwithdiogenes]

Yeah, i don't like giving her any distance from how predatory and exploititive goop was/is. This hurt sick, desperate people and their families who were willing to pay and price tag and believe any lie if it might help their situation. She wasn't just scamming rich "wellness culture" type people. And let's not act like there hasn't some covid misinformation/denial going on through goop. As a chonically ill disabled person, i dont think Gwen is cute or funny or camp. I think she's a fucking danger to the well-being and lives of people like me. I think she'd step on my corpse if it would get her an extra dollar or a new fan or more status. It's a big mistake to make her into a meme. She's just going to keep doing this and we are going to keep letting her get away with it without any true consequences (money is not a consequence when you are that rich). We should treat her as the predatory, unethical, exploititive scammer she is.

[@bre7931]

Hate is a strong word for someone you don’t know 😅

[@orangefruit12]

@@bre7931 Its understandable to dislike someone for their actions but to hate them based on how they are being portrayed in the media is too farfetched. After all a business is still a business and in the end people decide for themselves whether or not to believe in brands or products. It's not always a brand's fault for selling. If a person's lack of caution and lack of initiative to do their own research is what's going to bring them financial struggles in buying products then that's entirely their fault. It's like putting the blame on an artist with adult content music for having young fans instead of it being the parents' fault for failing to guide and raise their child properly. This is literally the internet where everything can either be a lie, truth, good, or bad. No one's going to actually babysit you here.

[@CHLOEDEATHGOD]

@bre7931 you can hate people you don't know. Never meet Hitler, still hate him.

[@smrknggrl]

This is a real thing not only for celebrities but for big cases with public appeal. Here in Brazil we had this girl whom, with the help of her then boyfriend and boyfriend's brother, planned and killed her parents to get the heritage money. She was young, in university, she had good upbringing being like way above middle-class people in São Paulo. The case of course had massive coverage in brazilian news due to the cruelty of the deaths and when her involvement with the crime started being more than a speculation she (advised by her lawyer) started dressing like A CHILD, wearing pigtails and everything. It was ridiculous. Her and her lawyer were trying to pledge for mental insanity and she did some interviews for national tv channels playing this innocent and vulnerable woman-child. Her name's Suzane Von Richthofen if you guys want to look up and she was sentenced and is still in jail.

[@floweyfangirl69420]

Suzanne von Richthofen, that case shook the whole country up e que supresa um outro brasileiro aqui!

[@MsGabrielaf6]

@@floweyfangirl69420 somos 3 brasileiros fãs da Mina Lee

[@smrknggrl]

@@MsGabrielaf6 hahah pode ter certeza que tem muitos brasileiros por aqui, tenho várias amigas que assistem

[@isabelafernandes2813]

Ela não está mais na prisão não, foi solta no começo desse ano 😬

[@Queen-ty1xz]

Rapaz sabia disso não. Não acompanhei o caso

[@EH012]

The storyline for the musical Chicago was based on similar appearance-focussed judgements in the 1920s. I remember reading about Sabella Nitti. She was initially sentenced to death and didn't even speak English to know it. She was eventually acquitted with the help of a young lawyer named Helen Cirese, who got her to learn English and (I kid you not) gave her a makeover. Apparently juries were letting women off as long as they were attractive. And convicting them of whatever if not. Yeesh.

[@jhardman1876]

I 100% agree with the body language expert take, so many times it comes across as "this person is clearly guilty because they didn't act like how we think they should" which is incredibly problematic considering the high number of ways people would react to any given situation, not even taking into account things like neurodivergency, and often these things are after a horrible trauma? Like I don't know how I would act if I found out a family member was attacked, I don't want to ever find out, but how much more horrible would it be if I also had to worry about showing grief in the right way at the right times in front of the right people. Like even when I'm just normal sad my instinctual reaction would be to make a joke, which would probably get me labeled as a murderer if the circumstances were right

[@scubatuba1083]

I think that all the time, like usually in stressful situations I shut down and become almost robotic, I feel very disassociated and act completely different from my normal self. I could see how other people could look at that response and think that must mean guilty.

[@stringcheese6833]

This was actually a big part of the Amanda Knox case. Shortly after she was arrested by the Italian police because of the death of her roommate, she was laughing and goofing around with the police officers. The security camera footage of that was used as a huge piece of evidence in her case (and Italian media derisively refered to her as Foxy Knoxy because of it), but IIRC, it was just a matter of shock. Her brain couldn't really process what had happened yet, so she acted like she was oblivious to what was really going on. Even without neurodivergency or trauma, people don't all act the same. An individual might have tells, but unless you're their mother or best friend, you're not likely to be able to pick up on them

[@PokhrajRoy.]

I never realised that this would be an aesthetic but I’m LIVING for it. Also, I’m biased to say Lady Diana in her signature suit and blazer in blue is a favourite.

[@LucyusMaximus]

Many of these fits remind me of the phase a lot of us went through - Not knowing how to dress for job interviews as a teen/young adult, so you just threw a cheap blazer or a random business casual item over whatever else you were wearing. Also they all look slightly windswept in every photo, like they forgot they had court, ran late and didn't have time to finish their makeup or hair. Love the chaos of trying to look more "down to earth" professional.

[@CARATMom]

Naomi’s runway looks when she would leave her community service activities in NYC were iconic. She was able to change her persona non grata status after losing her trial for assault against her housekeeper.

[@WynnWynn-gl3fk]

So what?! she is evil!

[@soymikleo]

this topic is so interesting ive never rlly thought of the implications of their styling choices in court aside from being formal

[@4eyesinthecorner399]

I found it interesting when watching the Netflix show ‘Inventing Anna’ as it showed this whole process of her lawyer pushing Anna to wear a certain style of clothing and Anna pushing back and insisting on wearing something else, and the court and public’s reactions to what she wore as a result.

[@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195]

I also immediately thought of that when I saw the video title!

[@jorrdan.]

at the time of the actual anna’s court appearances there was a really popular instagram account that covered her looks

[@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195]

@@jorrdan. they did that in the show, did you watch the show? it’s pretty good, though probably not all true ofc

[@tessiagriffith9555]

My cousin was a disney employee and yeah, Disney employees basically dropped out of reality and into a trippy kind of purgatory.

[@Elhastezy888]

I second that. One of my best friends did ten years at Disneyland. I took years to deprogram

[@PokhrajRoy.]

The theme of this video reminds me of that episode in Brooklyn Nine-Nine where Rosa dresses for court and is aided by the chaotic duo of Charles and the Sergeant.

[@sundiva7642]

I'm just thinking about how people were attacking Megan the stallion about the outfit she wore to court. I don't really remember what was said but someone was like because she dresses explicitly doesn't mean that sheshouldbe harmed or something like that and I totally agree

[@Brianna58321]

Absolutely, happy to see someone go into more detail about it. I think her outfit was really powerful and her mentality strong.

[@strawberrylime33]

What a nice surprise, Mina finds the most diverse range of topics to explore! I'm begging for her take on places like ThredUp, Depop, The RealReal, Temu, and Mercari.

[@brkh96]

What are they?

[@tomsgrexit]

One of these is not like the others (that being temu, basically fast fashion on steroids)

[@strawberrylime33]

@H i believe they're all online fashion stores with questionable quality/marketing to hook you in, but what u see aint what u get. The RealReal is a place to buy expensive high fashion purses for cheaper, but I've heard it's shady AF. Depop is where you can buy or sell used clothing; it's branding is all about recycling, making used clothes fashionable again.

[@tomsgrexit]

@@brkh96 Thredup, Mercari, and Depop are places to buy and sell mostly used or no longer wanted clothing. Temu is pretty much like Wish, SheIn, and Romwe. They sell things for a marked down price, but use laborers overseas that they pay practically nothing, and the quality of the items are extremely subpar. I don't know much about The RealReal but from my understanding, they basically sell used and vintage clothing that's more 'high end' so the prices are usually way pricier. I use Mercari and Thredup the most and I really like those (especially Mercari bc people don't just sell clothing on there).

[@dionemartins0212]

Another reason why there were so many eyes turned to the Amber and Depp case is that it didn't feel so "black and white". The situation was muddy at first and everyone wanted to know who the "bad guy" was

[@demilovatofaith]

The body language expert thing seems like it would disadvantage neurodivergent folks and the mentally ill.

[@marcp886]

Not necessarily. Body language expert first establish a "baseline" for each individual to see what is their specific body language like in certain situations. These baselines differ from person to person.

[@demilovatofaith]

@Marc P That's exactly what I said. Not everyone has the same baseline...... It disadvantages neurodivergent and mentally ill people. In order to stop crime, we provide resources, not police people. Body language experts are useless in the fight for abolition.

[@elenymm]

​@@marcp886 yeah, this is how I know you know what you're talking about. I'm constantly explaining baselines to people haha

[@katdavis1030]

@@marcp886 baselines don’t really do anything to mitigate the issues with body language analysis being horribly ableist. They never account for things like masking or sensory problems in the moment. When I’m masking my autism and pretending to look you in the eyes but it’s tiring so I eventually have to give up, that doesn’t mean I’m a liar avoiding eye contact suddenly. When I’m shaking and fidgeting is bc of sensory overload and anxiety, not bc I’m hiding something. “Reading” body language isn’t really effective at all

[@nala3055]

@Kat Davis exactly this! Ihave ADHD and I can interact totally differently based on my energy levels. Not to mention that any "baseline" established is probably still totally inaccurate if the person making it is neurotypical. They simply don't understand the neurodivergent experience

[@omgkthxbi]

Someone said my serial killer glasses were "gwyneth in court chic" and I was like ???????? I guess that is better than calling them serial killer glasses haha

[@mallorycarpinski1160]

Is it though? 😅

[@JeanPaulBeaubier]

old rich money tend to dress minimalist/vintage. minimalism came into vogue in the same era that your retro "serial killer" glasses were in fashion. That's why.

[@ruzzelladrian907]

I’m going to court tomorrow. This video came in just on-time. I’m going to family court to make my order protection against my abusive and homophobic step-father permanent.

[@tiarezavaleta8850]

Hope everything goes well.

[@missvioletnightchild2515]

I hope it went well!

[@absolutelynotellen]

I hope everything's went smoothly.

[@WynnWynn-gl3fk]

Good luck 🍀👍 😢❤😊

[@TheRatKingsTherapist]

I’m proud of you❤️

[@pamelaguerra3768]

Not a woman but a really good "f you" styling moment was Dee Snider from Twister Sister in that one court case about censorship.. a bunch of other rock stars also atended and they really cleaned up, wearing suits and and slicking their hair but this man was like nah bitch and he went in full 80's rock star parafernallia and then proseded to kick ass when he actually had to talk and I think that's beautifull

[@AndrewArtpop]

mina never fails to add detail and nuance to all her work

[@alicevinterqvist7053]

Everything that happens in the world and yet Mina Le having worked at Disney world is what makes the most sense to me... you know, now that we know this intel it's so obvious she worked at Disney!

[@lucyj8204]

I've read that juries can also be swayed by how supporters are dressed. If a criminal defendant has smartly dressed friends in the gallery, it's easier to believe that they're a good person who made a mistake. But if you have no friends, or friends who turn up in dirty leisurewear and cause disruption, it's easier to believe they're a bad person. I ... don't really think juries are very good at judging innocence.

[@dorotaisqueen3650]

This exact topic was discussed in the essay Trial by Fashion by Veronique Hyland, which I read in her book Dress Code, and it was super in-depth and interesting! I highly recommend reading it if you're interested.

[@sarahwatts7152]

The sheer prices for a lot of these clothes is eyewatering

[@elsamarie222]

I love that you’re covering this topic!! I find it so fascinating bc there really is an aesthetic to it and it’s so interesting

[@coffeecat357]

15:30 no because as a person who naturally fidgets, jerks etc. even when im completely calm ive always thought it was sooo weird that general lying "tells" are just things neurodivergent and/or metally ill people tend to do (avoid eye contact, fidget, jerk, etc.)

[@lovelietejada]

I'm so glad you included cardi because her court fits are my favorite

[@norwhals.norwhals]

15:30 münecat’s video debunking body language experts is so good!! highly recommend if you’re interested in that

[@Liolia22]

Small consideration: Gwyneth was asked “what is your wellness routine”, not “what is your full daily meal plan”? So I think she responded with the foods/practices she eats/does for self-care due to inflammation she developed as a result of having had Covid-19. So, while I’m not a fan of hers, I think the uproar over her response fails to keep the specific question in mind. (Edits for grammar)

[@luca.desu.2590]

Yeah I was just going to say this too but you said it better

[@anikbay3474]

I agree with you. I also have a real problem with judging what any woman eats, even a celebrity, and even Gwyneth. I am no fan of hers, but let her eat what she wants.

[@wplants9793]

Also we don’t know if that truly is all she eats in a day. I think she was give me examples of some thing she eats and win. To me it was not An exhaustive list.

[@reba738]

Thank you, I'm not a fan of Gweneths but she said "wellness routine" not what I eat in a day.

[@mallorycarpinski1160]

I think she even responded to this saying "of course I eat more than that!"

[@melaniemerkosky]

I’m in the middle of a huge life transition and have felt very much like a leaf in the wind over the past few months. This talk was so soothing. Thank you.

[@ladybugd0ts]

i’ve been on a mina le binge lately, thank u for fueling the fire!!!

[@태이씨]

I'm currently reading the book "Homo Ludens. A study of the play element in culture" by Johan Huizinga, and according to it, yes, courtroom is a lot like a theater stage. It has always been a spectacle where you can observe which side wins. I highly recommend the book.

[@softlyblack_168]

I loved that little jury duty scene insert, glad to know someone else who watched it

[@moderndesigner]

What was this scene from? It looks so funny.

[@yodoquynh5597]

@@moderndesigner i did a little search and it's from a show literally called "jury duty"

[@elise4238]

Mina your makeup/hair/skin combination is ACTUALLY flawless in this video i cannot stop staring!!

[@antoineleclerc5638]

Hey Mina, I love your videos, but I just wanted to say, i would love more Fashion History videos ! I love when you use your fashin history knowledge, and show some sources, it really puts some things into perspective and makes us discover some forgotten influences of our contemporary fashion

[@hermofvn]

This is Fashion History too

[@amandabiz]

you’re probably one of the most entertaining channels out there!!! thank you for all your hard work!

[@janemechner446]

this was such a good video mina. love love when your videos integrate a societal critique with fashion, nothing is worn in a vacuum! love always :)

[@katdavis1030]

“Stealth wealth” just feels like the reskinned version of the old money style. The understated yet expensive way of dressing and acting that is never flashy but screams money none the less, especially to other rich folks. Very J Crew. Very Polo Ralph Lauren. They still all look like lunch to me tho. The 1% can get chomped

[@annaselbdritt7916]

omg this look is amazing on you. you look like an angelic vampire lawyer, I love it

[@Kat-yq6vw]

I adore your commentary, Mina. You’re such a gem.

[@okok-go9kg]

Girl I love being called a beautiful dove😭

[@merty5713]

This is exactly why some countries are trying to have DV and AS-related cases without a jury. A jury, apart from having no knowledge about important aspects of DV like coercive control and DARVO, also can be swayed by things like appearances and body language. It is not good enough for justice. The verdict in Amber's case was heartbreaking for survivors of DV and AS everywhere and it literally showed the problem with jury trials on such important issues. I hope in some future date, the US justice system would also consider having these cases without a jury.

[@anyaaa2801]

​@@dead_ringerz Getting physically abused by your own husband seems to be more important than a simple defamation case but hey what do I know?

[@kelleyreeves965]

I'm curious as to what these countries suggest take place instead. Everyone realizes that judges are just people as well too, that can be easily swayed?

[@SlapstickGenius23]

@@kelleyreeves965 unfortunately yes.

[@Hypochondriac1997]

​@@kelleyreeves965 judges have to write down their analysis. So you can see what evidence they considered in making the judgement, what the thought process was. It helps to decrease bias. They are also experienced and trained in legal matters. Jurors are laymen.

[@larkfly9273]

Mina you always have the most original ideas! Please keep standing out from the youtube crowd and coming up with stuff like this

[@ratsolos_zdechami]

15:21 polygraph tests are not admissible as evidence in court and neither is body language analysis, its interesting though that detectives often use body language analysis in order to asses behaviour and carry out questioning accordingly. I agree that youtube "experts" mostly have no experience in the field and overemphasize it to paint someone as the guilty person. Its interesting you mentioned that!

[@manderly33]

It’s interesting but it’s also mostly bs.

[@catIing]

People wanted Amber Heard to lose not because she dressed wrong or wasn't famous enough, but simply because she was up against a famous man in basically an abuse case. Nothing she could have done would have changed that.

[@lilac951]

Girl, I'm so happy you are wearing bright winter colors lately. You look amazing 👏

[@senselesschanify]

Can you do another video on the bridgerton-universe ? This much on Queen Charlotte ? I loved the costumes very much. I never payed much attention to men’s wear in historic setting but I really liked King George’s outfits :) I felt they took the clothes from that time and gave them a modern twist. It felt genuine to his character as portrayed (down to earth King) and harmonised well with Queen Charlotte‘s attire ✨ The contrast of Princess Augusta’s Dressed to Queen Charlotte‘s were also very nice and reflecting their place in life and their view on things ☺️

[@matildakorinthenberg9914]

Just gotta say that a classmate of mine got bullied a lot for being thin and having long legs. Her Jeans never fit because they were to short and therefore looked funny and people started to frequently make fun of her suggesting she has an ED… every day, but the real reason for her weight was a medical issue and she suffered a lot from those comments… even though fat people are made fun of more often, this can also happen for thin people. Especially since you’re really precise and cautious when talking about difficult topics. I think using that meme like this negates the fact that people really can get bullied for the strangest things. We should just keep that in mind, I think. Love your content though ❤

[@isildhen]

The interesting aspect of behavior analysis is only when you base your assessment off of the baseline of the person you analyze. This means we all act differently, and all have our way of expressing ourselves verbally and physically. So if my baseline is fidgeting a lot or not making eye contact, it would not be considered in trying to figure out whether I am deceptive! Then again, professional behavioral analysts admit there is no definitive way of knowing someone is being deceptive, only hints that may encourage to look further into a situation :P

[@random23287]

I'm living for that ruffled top + hair combo! Somehow, it's giving the three musketeers.

[@ameliashaw428]

I feel like Elizabeth Holmes’ court fashion could be a multi hour video.

[@Skip-Towne]

The moment Mina started defining "stealth wealth" I thought 'oh, so like The Row?' then she immediately showed that pic of Paltrow wearing that Row coat 😂

[@anyadeering]

I’ll never forget Sarah Snyder showing up to court, Birkin in hand, and posting on Instagram simply “I didn’t steal a Birkin.” She also wrote a tshirt of her own mugshot to court. Very similar to Winona and the MJ dress.

[@DrAnarchy69]

I LOVE that Naomi Campbell wore a beehive! I have multiple beehive wigs because the hairdo is amazing

[@kavyashrivastav4258]

What a unique idea! I'm so in awe of your mind, Mina ❤️✨

[@Daedalussi]

the public response to the heard trial was a display of misogyny i haven't seen matched in intensity since gamergate. ppl need better education on how abuse works, what DARVO is, and that not every abuse victim is necessarily likeable. using the reality that male abuse victims exist and are ignored as a silencer on the 'i just hate uppity women' gun is so gross. it felt like a huge step backwards and symbolic revenge on the MeToo movement. was good to hear your thoughts on this.

[@androphobe]

Totally agree!

[@jeposaurusrex]

THIS!! Also that silencer line is gold.

[@angelashinner]

Wow I can’t believe after watching the entire trial with even all the leaked and never seen before evidence etc. everywhere there are still people out there who believe Ambuser. Amber wasn’t just unlikable, she was a narcissistic mentally abusive and unapologetic abuser who didn’t feel sorry for hitting Johnny cause it was his fault for not giving her attention. Just goes on to show how male abuse victims can never win.

[@Inthepotwithdiogenes]

Agreed! It's like people have never heard of legal abuse before! It's very common within domestic abuse that an abuser will use "abusive litigation" to get access to and exert power over a person or the people they no longer have as direct access to as they did before.

[@manderly33]

Well said.

[@ic5889]

the only body language experts i trust are moms who know when their teenager is lying to them

[@erinhawkins5984]

Excellent analysis. I’d so love for you to take a close look at the clothes, hair, and makeup of Love and Death.

[@rosehawksworth]

I just love the fact that Gwyneth Paltrow dressed like a Columbo villain throughout the whole trial.

[@mi-no3wk]

I have court on Friday for shoplifting so thanks for dropping this video so I know what to wear

[@laurabower7854]

This is the central premise for the musical Chicago: court as theater.

[@flannavery-fi1lg]

When’re I think of courtcore I think of that inventing Anna scene where she made a fuss about what she would wear on coat

[@lucindawellmansmith3660]

An interesting recent case from the UK has been following Georgia Harrison and Stephen Bear in convicting him of revenge porn. Bear did a poll on twitter of asking his fans what to wear to the case (a polyester pink suit 🤢) to distract from his charges and focus on the performance instead. It was such bad taste and did not give the intended result Bear was going for. Meanwhile Georgia looked very classy and fashionable. The outfits for me really summarised the entire case of Bear not caring at all and his narcissist traits showing, while Georgia has become a spokesperson for anyone a victim of revenge porn.

[@gayguyheart]

Hey Mina! I just wanted to let you know that there are actually a lot of low-income people in Park City. My aunt is a retired teacher there and lived there before Sundance turned the town into what it is today. I also lived in Aspen, Colorado when I was a child and the same goes for that place. The wealth inequality is really pressing but most of the year the high-income people aren't actually there. They come for ski season and a few months in the spring and a few months in the summer. A lot of those huge houses are empty and unused, some of them are owned by people like the Saudi Arabian royal family just in case they want to come for a long weekend. I just saw my aunt last weekend and she's having to sub part-time and work another job in addition to her teacher's pension to make her life livable. My mom and I lived in the mountains for a long time and while there are some rich folks who live up there full time, it's really not as many as it's made out to seem. I thought you'd want to know!

[@Barfigarfi]

Ah yes My fav genre of KZbin video- intelligent women with nice backgrounds and clothing talking about celebs fashion and general world ethics. Weirdly specific it’s just where it’s at :3

[@astrid3545]

uhh Kristen Leo fan?

[@Barfigarfi]

@@astrid3545 no but just subscribed now

[@astrid3545]

@@Barfigarfi that was my best guess lol

[@imid-ltd]

Horst Rechelbacher who formed Aveda, one of our most haunting plant based beauty and healthcare products industries, studied Ayurvedic Medicine with a Guru in 1970.

[@xaajjaa]

i’ll sit thru mina’s ad bc she’s a queen and gets thru it swiftly! 🤓🤘🏽

[@geminimoonmadness]

I wish amber all the best 💓I truly hope she never has to go through any more pain or suffering in her life after this. she's been through enough for 10 lifetimes. I hope her and her daughter are happy together ❤

[@gattilucia]

Amazing how nobody remembers that Johnny Depp almost lose a finger, the only one with real physical evidence, what whatever...

[@geminimoonmadness]

@@gattilucia Amazing how you *clearly* did not do your own research, because if you *had*, you would've known that Depp cut off his own finger to threaten and scare amber. You would've *also* known that she has photos of every single bruise and wound he caused on her, including hitting her face while he had a ring on and tearing out her hair. You also would've seen the screenshots between him and a friend of his in which they both threatened to k*ll amber and assault her corpse. So tell me again, who is the only one with *real* physical evidence again?

[@KaniauJakaf]

@@gattilucia And amazing how many people chose to ignore what the jury agreed on... amber stans are a different breed

[@IY-js3nk]

@@KaniauJakaf un juicio con jurado es un concurso de popularidad, suma los bots de internet y tendrás el resultado de creer que JD es la víctima, no ya de la difamación, sino de malos tratos por parte de AH, a pesar de que él mismo alega justo todo lo contrario según los documentos desclasificados. Sí, hay seguidores de actores que son capaces de defender, y creerse, cualquier cosa.

[@dionemartins0212]

Random guy: Look, she's looking down, she's lying! Woman: **Is talking about abuse, an extremely hard situation to talk about*

[@alvafairchild13]

I love Naomi's choice of jewelry it fits the circumstances so well

[@Man-ej6uv]

i would wear a biblically accurate angel fit. intimidation tactic

[@muunprince1992]

Also in court trials some women try to style their hair in pigtails or twin braids to appear more innocent.

[@NannoAnno]

I love these gossip videos, it feels like we are sharig a pot of coffe and I'm just listeing to my bestie telling me about all the celebrity shiet that usually flies over my head

[@hp8685]

love a good Mina thumbnail like this, they always set the scene really nicely

[@Royalty05]

I don’t really keep up with celebrities drama. However the Johnny depp vs amber heard trial was keeping up with me not the other way around 😂 I swear everyone became a self proclaimed body language expert

[@Mitchellfw]

I have to admit, every time I think of "court fashion", I am reminded of those scenes from "Chicago" where Roxie is being coached on what to wear and do in court to look innocent, vulnerable, and a little seductive (a dress that looks like a combo of a nun and a French schoolgirl, knitting a baby garment for an unborn child she has lied about, and a shocking blue rhinestone garter that she flashes when she "faints").

[@ConcietedMuchXD]

This fit is everything!!! So beautiful Mina!!

[@cim96]

The only thing I know is that Gwyneth Paltrow should be convicted of robbing Fernanda Montenegro’s Oscar

[@sybilpv638]

Hard agree. Montenegro was sublime while Paltrow only whined in a terrible british accent for two hours and got an oscar paid by Harvey Weinstein.

[@wplants9793]

I always feel like the elephant in the room with Gwyneth Paltrow is her association with Harvey Weinstein.

[@cordeliaistheone]

Fascinating and nuanced as always, but I'm mostly commenting because I'm weirdly obsessed with that Tim Robinson sketch so your usage of it was particularly appreciated lmao; all the clips you used were great and lightened the sometimes heavy subject matter. Gwyneth is such a dystopian character lmao she's not the *most* harmful person in the world but yeah, she's so bad it does become camp. Very Disney villain-esque.

[@viishahb]

mina is looking like the mental imagery i conjured of the meme ''look at my lawyer dawg i'm going to jail'' and i'm living for it

[@catrinasn8972]

This is a good fashion analysis but also a good perspective on celebrity court cases. I completely agree with you that all that nitpicky tiktok analysis of the Heard / Depp trial was fucked up.

[@anyaaa2801]

Yep.

[@aed4n92]

Really enjoyed this one!! So interesting to see the focus on fashion during trials.

[@itsyissel]

I feel like it's important to note that people took that Gwyneth Paltrow interview out of context. Like, people just assumed that was her everyday diet and that's not the case. She did a Harper's Bazaar Food Diary video a few years ago and her diet actually included french fries, turkey burgers, much more normal food.

[@wplants9793]

I was just gonna say that.

[@stargirl3455]

man, i love your videos. strangely enough i'm not that into fashion or this celebrity/high-brow culture but your vids make me notice things i never would have otherwise i was wondering have you thought about making a video about princess diana? i think she's very iconic

[@tanecurtze2347]

Law student living for this videooo❤️❤️

[@garfieldiloveyou]

mina, you are my alix earle

[@EtaGrayIzardWay]

Side note; thank you for putting in the clip of Jury Duty. That show is brilliant

[@butterfliesthatcry]

Love this vid mina! Can I weigh in as a civilian who just happens to be rly into fashion and has been to court two notable times in my life..once to defend myself which I totally went for take responsibility vibes since that was what was necessary for that situation, the second time was during a mid fall time of year to testify against an abuser , and I distinctly remember being stressed and afraid and my self styling choices were reflective of this desire to portray myself as ..I guess damaged but .. rising from the ashes in a way. I dyed my hair all black with a straight fringe, wore all black which is on brand for me but it was this sweeping black cape that was my mom's and it made me feel safe, cloaked my body entirely, and highlighted my small silver ankh pendant which I chose that day I remembered , since it symbolizes enternal life, as a deliberate choice to say "this will not kill me" .. does that make sense.?. we won and this man is behind bars and it helped me thru it, but I thought it was interesting on the topic..fashion can be a coping mechanism and especially in legal setting it's also about how you are perceived by everyone else..idk! This is a great video thanks again!! Lindsay's looks are always gonna be my fav

[@keyarrma]

mina i would LOVVEEEE for you to do a video on succession once the show is over omg

[@Chachixo]

I was sort of hoping to see you talk about the Bling Ring girl and her kitten heels but that would require some stretching of the term "celebrity" so I get it lol. Also, Munecat made a great video about Body Language Experts and why it's not legit like at all. Very good watch if you really want to get into the subject.