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@wyattcole54527 ай бұрын
Imma guess the halo for Kurt in the thumbnail means he plays good music, whereas the devil horns clearly mean they don’t, the guitarist is the only good thing about Limp Bizkit imo
@JoshMccluskey-jc2kq7 ай бұрын
Or figure by Simmons definition of icon that would be selling the most albums out of every band and there's one band that comes a mind that's outsold everybody and that's Linkin Park, so does that mean they're the greatest band ever?
@scottinnh886 ай бұрын
I saw Megadeath with life of Agony and Coalchamber. Megadeath was the worst band on that stage that’s back in 98.
@korymanuel86826 ай бұрын
@@JoshMccluskey-jc2kqthey'll never sell more than Elvis though......
@aliraelei33133 ай бұрын
Kurt Cobain is the best of all time. They are just jealous of him.❤
@metalinyourhead36047 ай бұрын
On the lighter side: When Dave Grohl met Mötorhead frontman Lemmy Kilmister for the first time, Lemmy looked at him and said “I’m sorry about your friend Kurt”.
@EliRicke-xl9mw7 ай бұрын
True
@thaknightryda49717 ай бұрын
Dave Grohl had pay it forward to Pantera's Drummer Vinnie Paul when he had lost his brother, Dimebag Darrell. In a 2008-09 interview on That Metal Show, Vinnie mentioned that Dave reached out to him because he was in that same situation when he had lost Kurt, and Dave told Vinnie about music and how it has helped him a lot throughout the hard times.
@neilpatrickhairless7 ай бұрын
Which is probably the last thing Dave Grohl wanted to hear. Nobody has realized that guy has done everything possible to have his own career that doesn't include Kurt Cobain since Kurt Cobain died lol
@breadguything7 ай бұрын
@@neilpatrickhairlessKurt was his friend he wasnt trying to seperate himself from Kurt at all
@Stranglerxx777 ай бұрын
Lemmy was a really nice guy
@krisfrederick50017 ай бұрын
"I was simply blown away when I found that Kurt Cobain liked my work, and have always wanted to talk to him about his reasons for covering 'The Man Who Sold the World'." -David Bowie
@criskii7 ай бұрын
David was great
@benjorino7 ай бұрын
he slept with 14 year olds@@criskii
@criskii7 ай бұрын
@@benjorino David was mostly great
@Laiten7 ай бұрын
Source?@@benjorino
@CaswellWoodruff7 ай бұрын
@@benjorino Ted nugent also slept with minors but no one gonna talk about that either 😂
@esmeraldasanchez34536 ай бұрын
“The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts and the stupid ones are full of confidence.” Charles Bukowski
@shamelesskindness4 ай бұрын
Kurt had confidence
@blastofo3 ай бұрын
@@shamelesskindness Kurt knew he was talented, but he had self doubts like every artist does. When his record label were unhappy with In Utero, he appeased them and had an outside producer remix their singles, which was a betrayal to Steve Albini.
@avocadoeilishs39693 ай бұрын
That was the most suitable comment ever
@dwiganstube3 ай бұрын
Well, who ever Charles Bukowski is, he's wrong. I'm dumber than a box of rocks and I have no confidence whatsoever.
@apimpnamedslickback673 ай бұрын
@@dwiganstube Or maybe he's right, and you are smarter than you think you are.🤔
@riversart20307 ай бұрын
The difference between Mustaine and Hetfield's jokes is that Mustaine was put on the spot during a live interview, being asked about someone that he had no connection to. Hetfield on the other hand, went out of his way to make a mockery of Cobain during a performance.
@IHeartNoise7 ай бұрын
Hetfield also made jokes about Layne...
@HailTheApocalypse7 ай бұрын
Hetfield at the time was a full blown drunk. I'm sure he wouldn't have said anything like that now. And Lars is just a tool. Stage prop if anything.
@LoganTheWittyPizza7 ай бұрын
❤
@Ali.Aideel.Ismail7 ай бұрын
Megadeth & Metallica was in a bad situation when nevermind came out. Thrash metal slowing down and grunge era climbing up. I think it was more hate towards that situation.
@foolishEmporer7 ай бұрын
@@HailTheApocalypse I think the comment was out of spite. Metallica thought that they were the biggest band in the world, and Nirvana was competition. He knew what he was doing
@edawworld7 ай бұрын
Hendrix only put out three proper studio albums in his lifetime (same number as Nirvana). And Kiss doesn't even have a "classic" album in contention. Simmons putting his band in league with Led Zeppelin is delusional at best. And if Kurt and Nirvana had ONLY put out Nevermind and nothing else, they'd still outshine Kiss' joke of a legacy.
@ФонФон-й7о7 ай бұрын
KISS is far more influential, even if not as good. More good bands came out of mid af KISS influence, than superb Nirvana.
@enriquepastor36267 ай бұрын
Nah Kiss isn’t near as influential as Nirvana… maybe it was at some point but you’ll always see Kurt in fashion and Nirvana in music
@ФонФон-й7о7 ай бұрын
@@enriquepastor3626 Okay, let's start. Arthur Brown and Alice Cooper were wearing corpsepaint before KISS, but i heard a lot of Black Metal fans took influence from KISS. Bands influenced by KISS: RATM, Pantera, Skid Row, GNR, Pearl Jam, Motley Crue, Alice In Chains, Soundgarden, Mother Love Bone, Mudhoney, Marilyn Manson, White Zombie, Megadeth, Anthrax, Melvins, The Smashing Pumpkins, NIN and the list goes on and on. Nirvana influenced not THIS many good bands. Even though Cobain is better songwriter.
@SilentProti7 ай бұрын
@@ФонФон-й7оbut also, there weren't this many bands good on the same level after 1995 ;")
@Springfeeeel7 ай бұрын
I completely agree. I just don't understand the Kiss love. They're all gimmick and no talent.
@massdebated5 ай бұрын
Hearing your favorite bands say things about such a talented band no matter how little music is sad.
@THX483203 ай бұрын
Really :(
@wyattc.3 ай бұрын
Dave’s was funny tho
@ps.60232 ай бұрын
talented only because he ripped his mentors and heroes the Melvins off.
@CarlosCruz_ccАй бұрын
@@ps.6023 Oh.. There it is... The guy who knows nothing about music made it's appearance! You can't even grasp the concept of being influenced by your favourite bands and "ripping them off". Please refrain from commenting on music topics. You do not have the necessary understanding of it.
@ps.6023Ай бұрын
@@CarlosCruz_cc sit down child. I was actually around when these bands were and influenced LOL seriously? You don't even know who the melvins are without looking up on the internet
@sanctuary83967 ай бұрын
A lot of people forget that many of the well-established bands of this era never really took Nirvana, or the entire "grunge" trend seriously.
@trooperdoo71177 ай бұрын
People also forget the metal world hated grunge because grunge "killed" metal
@HailTheApocalypse7 ай бұрын
The hair/glam bands suffered a worse fate. Most of them folded up.
@tonywaldon25967 ай бұрын
Thear was jurney quin bosten they wher I cons ozzey 😂❤
@trimlesscoasters7 ай бұрын
Grunge is miles better than hair metal.
@trimlesscoasters7 ай бұрын
@@trooperdoo7117it was about hair metal, not metal in general, and tbh we can all agree that we’re glad hair metal is dead.
@krisfrederick50017 ай бұрын
"That was great because it got rid of all those guys with hairspray and leotards. Then Kurt came in like a phoenix and cut them all down like wheat before the sickle. You are done! Nirvana to me was the most significant thing since the Beatles, Very powerful vision, very honest man behind it, I loved him" -Tom Petty
@Erik-bd6ll7 ай бұрын
Bro megadeth and Metallica r still one of the biggest metal bands to this day lmfao
@mtanning7 ай бұрын
@@Erik-bd6ll neet
@JohnClMeis7 ай бұрын
@@mtanningYa.
@aleksastamenkovic55267 ай бұрын
@@Erik-bd6ll Okay and?
@Erik-bd6ll7 ай бұрын
@@aleksastamenkovic5526 he said that Kurt cut em down when he really didn’t and they’re still the biggest heavy metal bands in the world
@JudgementalBudgie3 ай бұрын
I find it ironic that rockstars who performed for freedom, change and non conformity, didn't react so well to a change in music industry. Many of them really ended up hating those who did something differently from them
@lucashernandez43452 ай бұрын
Only those who were affected in their pockets like Gene.
@thelentm2 ай бұрын
That's basic human nature for you. Majority of the biggest artist get their mind twisted by success and turn it all into commercial projects rather than true art
@anthonybelliveau-ANYONE-20247 ай бұрын
Most of these bands that hate him, hate him because he killed their genres.
@1236121007 ай бұрын
They hate him because he made way for bands like days of the new and matchbox 20.
@OpheliaDarkling7 ай бұрын
@@123612100 he didn't do it, the business executives did it. talk about killing the messenger...all that misdirected anger got them nowhere.
@mackash7 ай бұрын
Yet that 'genre' only lasted about 3 yrs. There is no such thing as grunge these days. Its a finished thing. It was over before we even had time to blink. So its not that. Nirvana hasn't aged well either. Its not something I'll listen to and get nostalgia like most genres. Those "bands" you mention are still going strong. Some are even more popular now than they were. Nirvana is nowhere. Neither is Pearl Jam or Alice in chains. No one cares.
@jamelbunny57327 ай бұрын
@mackash bruh, who hurt you?
@jjhere23117 ай бұрын
They hate Kurt becuase Kurt me it clear that he didn’t objective women our care about money , also he made it clear he wasn’t a poser death Rocker
@DanteDiCarloMusic7 ай бұрын
Fun fact for Gene Simmons, Nirvana made 3 studio albums, the same amount that Jimi Hendrix recorded before he died. I'm not saying Cobain is up there with Hendrix, but obviously it's not down to how many albums you make before you die.
@christophernash18467 ай бұрын
To be fair, Hendrix did 3 experience albums and 1 band of band of Gypsys album
@miguelsalgado74317 ай бұрын
Exactly, Kurt influence is undeniable there are artists today inspired by him and big names, I have yet to hear new artists say kiss inspired them lol
@DanteDiCarloMusic7 ай бұрын
@@christophernash1846 that was a live album though, you could also count Nirvana's incesticide album that had been sides etc
@DanteDiCarloMusic7 ай бұрын
@@miguelsalgado7431 I think kiss have definitely influenced a lot of people, but Nirvana had a bigger impact for how long they were actually around, and yeah kiss probably dont have much influence on artists now compared to nirvana
@christophernash18467 ай бұрын
@@DanteDiCarloMusic different band and new songs . They were going to cut an album if Jim didn’t have died.
@Pk_Rain3 ай бұрын
Glad so many people feel the same as I do about Gene. His band can’t scratch the surface of what Nirvana was and the influence they’ve had and they never will.
@eihtballjnky3 ай бұрын
Well Kiss inspired a lot more bands than nirvana did but whatever you say pal 😂😂
@crookedspinemusic3 ай бұрын
KISS sucks. Although they were influential to many bands, including many “grunge” bands. But they’re more famous for their lunchboxes than their music. Gene is a jealous douche.
@Imadeyourun2 ай бұрын
Roflol!!! Yeah, sure.
@XxBrickxX2 ай бұрын
@@Imadeyourun no way this guy said roflol
@Imadeyourun2 ай бұрын
@@XxBrickxX Yeah, I did, roflol. You got a problem with it, bub?
@Inkubun7 ай бұрын
A lot of people forget that Kurt literally changed the music world practically overnight, without really even trying.
@lewissykes8117 ай бұрын
You are correct sir
@VRALLSTARS177 ай бұрын
Not just that he also started a domino effect in music for example XXXTENTACION stated that Kurt Cobain is his biggest inspiration and that he felt inspired to make music because of Kurt cobain
@LInkinPark4life7 ай бұрын
Linkin park too
@Dfgdf917 ай бұрын
Changed it for the worse. No wonder why most musicians hated that junkie
@mr.leuphrates13027 ай бұрын
Kurt cobain has so many life saves thats why nirvana is my favorite band forever, i started playing guitar because of Nirvana. And kurt also saved my life.
@BreaxSkatez7 ай бұрын
Gene simmons saying noone after 1984 is an icon just means he doesn’t want to accept modern music
@charliechaplin8527 ай бұрын
I like classic rock, but there have definetly been many eehhh I'll finish this comment tommorow
@charliechaplin8527 ай бұрын
True to my promise, I will now finish my comment. There have been many superstars after 1984. Eminem, Taylor Swift, Justin Bieber, etc. Just because Gene doesn't like the music doesn't mean he shouldn't acknowledge it's existence
@BreaxSkatez7 ай бұрын
@@charliechaplin852 fr i dont like Taylor swift but she is iconic
@jolonga91977 ай бұрын
@@charliechaplin852 Justin Bieber, i'snt Icon
@charliechaplin8527 ай бұрын
@@jolonga9197 some people like him, some people don't. Most people know his name and who he is is what I'm saying
@PDid-nv1yl5 ай бұрын
Incesticide was released during Cobain’s lifetime. Kurt authorized the release of the compilation, had full control over the album art, and wrote the liner notes. It was released before Nirvana’s final studio album In Utero. It was not a posthumous release.
@Delusional_Witch3 ай бұрын
i'm sure the video script is ai generated
@Ooze273 ай бұрын
Indeed, when that came up, i was like:" it was a long time ago but i remember listening to Incesticide before In Utero". Itr's actually a great album.
@yeetabix27522 ай бұрын
Dead internet theory
@scottwilson37417 ай бұрын
Simmons was pissed that Nirvana didn't do the tribute album. Plain and simple. How many albums an artist puts out has nothing to do with their legacy. It's the influence they have. Nirvana helped define an entire sub genre of music and to some degree even its fashion. Janis Joplin and Buddy Holly only released 3 albums. Jimi Hendrix had 4. All icons
@daniellev72587 ай бұрын
Exactly. Sounds to me like a lot of bitterness and jealousy someone was light years more talented
@rayvantassel95927 ай бұрын
Agreed, it's more about quality over quantity.
@aarongarcia43817 ай бұрын
Nirvana is more fashion and a "cool" concept than music itself
@elcheekoful7 ай бұрын
If gene would of done some research. He'd found out very quickly that Kurt was anti mainstream media and didn't like Alot of hair metal 80's artist.. I like gene.
@Jingles4667 ай бұрын
@@aarongarcia4381you don't get it.
@danybr17 ай бұрын
all those who showed insensitivity or mocked Kurt in public are curiously also the same ones who couldn't handle the impact that Nirvana had on their music, making it age badly as soon as Nevermind was published
@aarongarcia43817 ай бұрын
Most fans were teenagers and people following the trend
@fuze37717 ай бұрын
@@aarongarcia4381 called the grunge revolution for a reason dude, some guys relate w/ the angsty lyrics n find solace in them, i mean till this day, people still listen to them a lot do they? they defined a generation and put them in flannel, yeah there are many subcultures now but we cant forget the impact theyve done then and now to this day, some people express their pain in different ways, and music is one of them. people who relate to that pain listen to that music to help them.
@VitiatedsHOWTO6 ай бұрын
Many of those bands have pretty much fell apart
@penske_material6 ай бұрын
yeah sure like Eminem 🙄🙄... Before Kurt, music was fun, after him teenagers embraced depressing and thought it was cool.
@MissBooful6 ай бұрын
Hell, yes
@redfoxse7en525 ай бұрын
I love that Peter Steele was respectful and understanding. There's a reason he was so loved. Hetfield is just fortunate that so many people have terrible taste in music and even like their new pop metal songs.
@rdrrr3 ай бұрын
Peter Steele was a great guy, clearly very intelligent intellectually and emotionally, but without arrogance. Also taken from us too soon. Alcohol abuse took so many brilliant artists, from Jim Morrison to Bob Stinson.
@hermanubis962 ай бұрын
lmao pop metal? you must be a true metal fan! posers beware! kurt would have hated you
@redfoxse7en52Ай бұрын
@@hermanubis96 Did a Midtallica fan get their feelings hurt?
@kindagamer777911 күн бұрын
Metallica was legit a great band in the 80s not so much these days tho
@wnerko74847 ай бұрын
Johnny Rottens remarks werent disrespectful.they were laments of wasted youth and talent
@christineobrien77077 ай бұрын
As usual, Mr. Lydon is right on point.👍
@phantombigboss84297 ай бұрын
Johnny Rotten was a wannabe punk clown and now hes getting whats coming to him.
@jorvikaengelskvinna71577 ай бұрын
Exactly. John is a very intelligent, perceptive person and has spoken of Kurt publicly several times. He is being completely misrepresented here.
@bassage137 ай бұрын
He was speaking from experience. Sid Vicious was his best friend.
@GamblingFentAddict7 ай бұрын
I love it how people always talk about waste like we humans were just a product meant to function and have a purpose
@TreborPaulson7 ай бұрын
Incesticde was released between Nevermind and Inutero 1992, not after his death
@BugRib7 ай бұрын
...I think of Incesticide as their second album, and place it there on my shelf.
@chrisknight37347 ай бұрын
Also Kurt wrote the liner notes
@keithmcclanahan81177 ай бұрын
@@BugRibI think you mean third album my friend.
@kirkwarburton22777 ай бұрын
Glad you saw that too. Can’t believe they didn’t do a basic fact check.
@kirkwarburton22777 ай бұрын
Keithmcc… I think he means second. You’re right - it was released third but much of it was recorded or played in the build up to Nevermind.
@letz_getschwifty97855 ай бұрын
Kurt Cobain literally changed my life, because of him I started playing my grandmother's £2 guitar from Oxfam that smells of a church 😅 I needed pliers to tune the strings and because of Nirvana's music, nothing stopped me. I've broken my wrist and was told I'll never be able to play guitar again, I proved my surgeon wrong and despite the arthritis, I still play when I can.
@blackorchid172 ай бұрын
Nice Nirvana changed my life as well Kurt is the reason I picked up a guitar 🎸 🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽
@GabzitoHD6 ай бұрын
That's sad considering Kurt was a big metallica fan too
@Ashley-g5o2m2 ай бұрын
wait what. didn’t expect to see you here but like it makes sense. have a good day gabzito.
@GunnReqwan7 ай бұрын
I don't know what Gene Simmons is talking about. Nirvana has so many songs that can fall under mini albums to bring a grand total of 8 albums Kurt could have had.
@Monkeys_994 ай бұрын
Nevermind and ineutero sweep the entire Kiss discography
@kkdream993 ай бұрын
Lol exactly, kiss is a joke haha
@itookthename3 ай бұрын
Kiss sucks "fans" cant even name one song@@kkdream99
@Lee-hs4pv3 ай бұрын
Wrong.nice try
@Lee-hs4pv3 ай бұрын
@@kkdream99your mother us a joke .haha
@Lee-hs4pv3 ай бұрын
@@itookthenamego back to kissing your sister.
@Kalergi_Plan_Accelerationist7 ай бұрын
Peter was truly a great man. So humble, polite...
@unknownstranger68757 ай бұрын
That’s why he’s still loved and missed. Type O Negative is one of the greatest bands ever.
@Strange_Guitarist6 ай бұрын
i so agree he was such a good man who created brilliant and funny music
@ryanscottnix6 ай бұрын
I've never heard anything bad said about Peter Steele. He honestly seems like an all-around great musician and person.
@AktivnaPropaganda6 ай бұрын
@@ryanscottnix eh, there's people who'll call him a N@zi because of some jokes he made but it was always clear he wasn't an actually hateful person
@tattered.andtorn6 ай бұрын
i miss him so much
@ph4nt0k3n6 ай бұрын
Kiss evaluating bands based on the number of albums really coincides with their lack of quality in their own music and instead focussing on quantity
@bigol92233 ай бұрын
Gene Simmons is just a megajew doing his thing
@etheralsymphony3 ай бұрын
Exactly! It’s not about the quantity but the quality.
@clemp233 ай бұрын
Yeah, and straight up saying « there hasn’t been any real legend in the 30 last years »… Josh Homme, Dave Grohl, Mark Lannegan, Chris Cornell ? Oh yeah right, they made actual music, not brainless rock ballads for 60yo housewives.
@etheralsymphony3 ай бұрын
@@clemp23Popular music is trash no matter the time or place. Nowadays, in this country (Spain) there’s no way to scape from reggaeton in any restaurant, taxi, bus, street, pubs, television or even in the house people are playing such together with the greatest brainless hits of any genre like pop, trap, flamenco, latin stuff, rap, rock, etc. The fans are between 4 to 90 y/o both men and women. It’s a matter of really digging into music to find treasures. I mean, there’s spectacular musicians, but they rarely have a place in concerts, record labels, auditions, radio or television. It’s a worldwide issue to my knowledge. There’s music just for a few. Don’t expect a world full of dumbs to appreciate it. Still I’d like them to be not almost so difficult to find out. The technologic giants play a big role to hide them. Maybe people won’t be that stupid without such a propaganda that goes to other levels of culture.
@rdrrr3 ай бұрын
@@bigol9223 Is his real name Shimonstein or something?
@lisapearson53244 ай бұрын
More people talk about Kurt and Nirvana than Kiss, in the UK at least Nirvana gets more airplay today than Kiss. I think its safe to say an icon isnt defined by how many records but more how memorable
@SatansDonkey6663 ай бұрын
Today they do. But were you around in the late 1970's? KISS was way bigger than Nirvana ever became. I prefer Nirvana, but don't pretend that KISS was some one hit wonder. They had more than just a smiley face shirt. To this day you can buy coffins, keychains, and dog collars with the name KISS on it.
@lisapearson53243 ай бұрын
@SatansDonkey666 I wasn't, I was born in the 80's. I'm not saying KISS aren't big, I don't dislike them, I could name 3 songs, perhaps know 5-6 songs, so I'm also not a fan. From my perspective I see to this day more Nirvana merch and more radio play for Nirvana than Kiss has/gets. So Gene's comment on Kurt has not aged well. Kurt is an icon.
@nicholaschristodoulou57662 ай бұрын
@@SatansDonkey666of course kiss got more airplay in the 70,s nirvana didn’t exist then
@ice.man952 ай бұрын
@@SatansDonkey666They were big, but not bigger than Nirvana ever was lmao.
@pancake175128 күн бұрын
@@SatansDonkey666 i don't understand your argument about how big kiss were. In the end there are more people listening to Nirvana than kiss. They may have been great, but Nirvana was just that much more impactful.
@Flicto137 ай бұрын
Ask someone now if they know who Nirvana is, and then ask them if they know who Kiss is? I think you will see who the legends are. People may know the Kiss name but few could name a song. Smells Like Teen Spirit is an anthem that gets played everywhere. Kiss is okay, but Nirvana is a different type of music and on another level.
@neilpatrickhairless7 ай бұрын
Yeah its wild how Nirvana became the radio sellouts Gene always wanted KISS to be
@rmv91947 ай бұрын
Most people would only know Smells like teen spirit, come as you are, I was Made for Loving you and Rock AND Roll all Nite from both bands.
@Senph427 ай бұрын
of course we know nirvana: it's a fashion brand, every teen has one of their tshirts from primark... XD
@social1917 ай бұрын
No, KISS is a much better band than Nirvana. KISS knows how to inspire with their live performances. Listening to Nirvana put me to sleep.
@arkhamguard64797 ай бұрын
@@social191the only thing Kiss knows is how to sell out and be f***ing c***s
@samcahntent7 ай бұрын
Gene Simmons is a brand, not an artist. He can play bass but he plays the rock persona as his job and you can see he only does it to satisfy his narcissism.
@lmclrain7 ай бұрын
an entertainer, perhaps?
@samcahntent6 ай бұрын
@@lmclrain Entertainer, yes.
@lmclrain6 ай бұрын
@@samcahntent keep it simple, dude people his age think that means to be an artist, pretty much you are an artist if you get to make money, if you gather tons of people, if you get crazy attention, if people look up to you for whatever reason pretty much they learned that during their time, that is that
@samcahntent6 ай бұрын
@@lmclrain oh I get that. People say bands like Green Day or even Nirvana/grunge bands “sold out” but if you’re able to make money like that, you’d be stupid not to. But Gene’s thing gives off a vibe like he’s a business man first, which is smart and works, but because of it, it’s hard for me to take anything he says seriously because he comes off pompous and very much about the money and fame before the music. But like I said, it totally works 👌🏻
@spectrecular97216 ай бұрын
3:55 - Quality vs quantity. Kiss may have several records, but only a handful of iconic songs. They are still an iconic band, but I would argue that the ones which only have one or two records where nearly every song was a hit just as iconic
@Tommy_Oliver7 ай бұрын
"Cobain is not an icon" 30 years after his death and he still talked about daily 31,348,255 Monthly listeners on Spotify over a billion views on KZbin Sold 75 million records worldwide but yeah he's not an icon
@simpego817 ай бұрын
Simmons is just a talentless poser
@MBanega6 ай бұрын
Exactly. I listen to nirvana to this day since I was like 12
@CommercialSuicideMusic6 ай бұрын
He is an icon, sure. But he isnt the most iconic.
@kkech14 ай бұрын
I'm not taking anything serious that comes from a man wearing make-up
@miftahulislam20104 ай бұрын
@@simpego81 exactly. i never gave a crap about listening to kiss because of how weird their persona is.
@watkinscharles8297 ай бұрын
Cobain will forever be an icon & one of the main reasons why I started playing guitar. He was a tortured soul that was around ALOT of bad people in his last days. I still believe if he had a different crowd around him he would probably still be alive? RIP brother 🤘🪦⚰️
@JohnnyAppleseed-yl6fo6 ай бұрын
I think you're right. Kurt had completely isolated himself with junkies who were only there to take advantage of the money and access to drugs.
@disco.lemonade6 ай бұрын
I hope you can play more than three chords. You will be better at guitar than he ever was
@aBcEarth15 ай бұрын
He needed to be away from his wife. 😢
@watkinscharles8295 ай бұрын
I can play way more than 3 chords. But he made ALOT of 💰 playing those 3 chords.
@disco.lemonade5 ай бұрын
@@watkinscharles829 Can't argue with that
@ThompterSHunson2 ай бұрын
Nirvana hasn't toured for 30 years now and they have 32.5M Spotify listeners, and KISS has been touring for decades and have 14M listeners. That answers Gene Simmons about the "two albums" and if Kurt's an icon. Nirvana's impact was immense and it is still going.
@psychedelicrevolution409525 күн бұрын
I do prefer Nirvana over KISS but there's also recency bias
@thecommonsenseconservative557613 күн бұрын
Yeah just ignore the twenty year gap in music fans of each 😂😂😂
@williamolsen207 ай бұрын
I am not the hugest Nirvana fan, but they are musical icons. They may have only put out a few albums, but they changed the state of music, and that is still being felt.
@selfan20057 ай бұрын
James Hetfield also made fun of Layne Staley that year too.
@SilentProti7 ай бұрын
And I bet he'd throw hands if someone joked about Cliff's death.
@lordtrigon17337 ай бұрын
Really not the same thing...
@-trashmammal-7 ай бұрын
@@lordtrigon1733 I think op meant the same year Layne died. And that's definitely just as bad, if not worse, because Layne had possibly even more of a miserable end than Kurt given how drawn out it was and how he kind of just knew it was coming for so long and had to just wait for what he believed (and was correct in his assumption as it ended up happening) inevitable.
@SilentProti7 ай бұрын
@@-trashmammal- not to mention, weren't Metallica friends with Alice in Chains?
@danyinblack7 ай бұрын
@@SilentProtiyes they were at the end and they attended the unplugged of AIC
@minjajanicijevic93256 ай бұрын
Many jealous people without empathy. RIP Kurt you are legend
@Mlgmaxwell7 ай бұрын
Fred did not mean any disrespect when he did the finger guns when he covered Nirvana, he does the finger guns during many performances/ songs over the years, it was just taken a bit out of context for the Nirvana cover.
@jessicalandis27217 ай бұрын
Yeh ok
@wolfgang64425 ай бұрын
Hmm aight!
@BOBINDUN5 ай бұрын
I mean he has the guy tattooed on him, i'm certain he likes him
@CyberdyneFTW4 ай бұрын
@@BOBINDUN I agree, and he even did a tiktok with himself dressed as Kurt in a funny but harmless clip where himself and Kurt meet face to face as neighbors. There's alot of mistakes Fred has done since he and his band mates started the band but I highly doubt he'd ever disrespect even Kurt or Nirvana. He's close friends with Dave Grohl by the way.
@watchlistenlearn4 ай бұрын
most Nu Metal Bands love Nirvana and alot Of Grunge Bands..Why dont more people make fun of Chester or Chris Cornell? Its all the same..
@frankiehensley29287 ай бұрын
Peter Steele did say that kobain was his hero cause he had the balls to do it.
@jesterofthemad17154 ай бұрын
Rip Kurt Cobain.. I listen to your music every day, and I always will
@IvanoCordoni7 ай бұрын
Kurt Cobain was a great artist, not exceptional in technique but he and his nirvana were important for modern rock... the most important
@punt22637 ай бұрын
he was exceptional in technique, people are just squares with no sense of nuance
@deathrowlemon73677 ай бұрын
Only people that care about technical skill are guitar geeks and snobs. And those people are never artists. They’re just people that play instruments.
@rmv91947 ай бұрын
and Rock Is currently dead... No wonder...
@Evsta7 ай бұрын
dude rock is dead like absolutely 100% dead now we have ice spice n taylor swift thank god trust the autotune abusers to save the music industry who put the children in the studio
@deathrowlemon73677 ай бұрын
@@Evsta rock n roll as a mainstream genre yes but there’s still many localized scenes in many places and people come out to shows.
@birthrootssanctuary54997 ай бұрын
Who cares what gene Simmons says
@EvisMucaTvp5 ай бұрын
Who cares what all the people in the video said. For me it's totally irrelevant. In the end what remains is the music created 😂
@juweee_yt5 ай бұрын
Lol, it absolutely makes no sense 😆
@tilster32395 ай бұрын
Lol he spoke truth
@AriadnaPorea5 ай бұрын
@@tilster3239wdym?
@majorfeelgoodrecords27405 ай бұрын
Who cares what anyone says 🎼🤘🏻
@wickedbeardz4 ай бұрын
cant believe so many ppl down talked his death.
@adrianlee34977 ай бұрын
When Nevermind came out and Teen Spirit hit, Nirvana ended up creating a buzz that hadn't been seen since The Beatles hit. It was Beatlemania all over again, Nirvana was simple, relatable, and dressed like normal guys. Having a drummer like Ghrol definitely helped. It's also my opinion *only* that Kurt probably never expected Nirvana to be so successful, which more than likely contributed to his passing. Edit; Because I haven't said enough about Kurt's talent as a songwriter, Kurt Cobain was a poet for the times that was definitely ready for a generation that was hungry for something different, he wasn't as proficient a guitarist as EVH or any of his peers at the time but Kurt was very effective at what he did. Kurt and Nirvana were and are still to this day very much icons because they ended up as game changers.
@finnmcginn99317 ай бұрын
Not even close to Beatlemania.
@Kirkmeister7 ай бұрын
@finnmcginn9931 if we are judging based on purely album sales, there is only a two million copy difference between the best selling album of each band. If you also want to also throw in broadcasting, MTV was around and Nirvana was all over that, yet The Beatles did have a massive viewer base on the Ed Sullivan show. Arguably, Nirvana's impact is on par, if not only slightly less powerful than The Beatles.
@TranceSFX7 ай бұрын
Yeah, not even close to beatlemania
@Joe.s116 ай бұрын
I love nirvana but they were not even close to the Beatles
@jonsmith-il4yv4 ай бұрын
Nirvana was good, but you are high or brain dead if you think nirvana's impact was anywhere close to Beatlemania.
@Microtonal_Cats7 ай бұрын
Gene Simmons is always saying something incorrect.
@webcityguymyclubb40324 ай бұрын
That’s because he doesn't have a clue.
@hamilgregorio14514 ай бұрын
Since Cobain died no band has been bigger than them and three albums is quality over quantity
@jshdhsufhc3437Ай бұрын
Insane glaze
@archityps7 ай бұрын
"Cobain was toxic", "He was a weenie" says a clearly non-toxic person. I am reminded of a South Park episode about Britney Spears.
@MUSICWIZARD937 ай бұрын
Even though Kurt Cobain tragically passed away, Nirvana will always be a legendary band, not because Kurt passed away but the impact that they left on the music they made.
@shamelesskindness4 ай бұрын
It wasn't tragic
@Grim_sights2 ай бұрын
@@shamelesskindnessragebait
@CarlosCruz_ccАй бұрын
@@shamelesskindness Aww... Need attention, don't you?!
@jonathontoney23383 ай бұрын
An Icon is anyone who leaves a long-lasting positive impact on music. That can be a single song if its enough to change hearts and minds, or it could be a mega career or 20 records. The fact that we still talk about Kurt to this day proves he had a impact on our lives.
@bobby_c077 ай бұрын
I think Cobain would have laughed at Mustaine's comment lol
@mateoosimani72797 ай бұрын
And you didn't think it. There's hundreds of comments saying exactly what you said. You're not original about that comment. And Kurt wouldn't laugh about it. Are you stupid or what?
@triphophoney29817 ай бұрын
That's what I thought too. 😂
@josephvega37636 ай бұрын
Me too
@Sapphiredrawing5 ай бұрын
Did you know him?
@icessoup4 ай бұрын
Considering how he expressed himself he probably wouldve enjoyed someone ditching him@@Sapphiredrawing
@thetownspeople64867 ай бұрын
Randy Rhodes…….. 2 albums and still a legend.
@danielmrtns7 ай бұрын
Randy Rhodes: Crazy Train alone and he is already a legend. More so than Gene Simmons, at least.
@scottwilson37417 ай бұрын
He also played with Quiet Riot after he and Ozzy parted ways
@jobrakai93957 ай бұрын
And a hell of lot better musician than Gene
@thetownspeople64867 ай бұрын
@@scottwilson3741 before he played with Ozzy.
@scottwilson37417 ай бұрын
@@thetownspeople6486 my bad. That is right
@markadairofficial3 ай бұрын
A lot of these people are very bitter and jealous because they wanted what Kurt didn't want : to become an icon (due to pressure).
@fyoutube22947 ай бұрын
Eminem didn’t diss him but they were insensitive remarks. But to be fair he made insensitive remarks to Lady Gaga but he’s gone on record saying he loves Lady Gaga
@wyattcole54527 ай бұрын
She’s easy to make those remarks about
@Spooky_5157 ай бұрын
Slim wiggy. Dude had three good albums and then turned into the epitome of what he was proclaimed to hate
@fyoutube22947 ай бұрын
@@Spooky_515 strong disagree but thats your prerogative
@lullsbaby93217 ай бұрын
Since when is it insensitive to describe what happened?
@fyoutube22947 ай бұрын
@@lullsbaby9321 say your mother passed away in a similar fashion as Kurt. It might be insensitive to describe what happened to her in the fashion eminem did on the song he did it (the song title) on for the sake of shock value (a clever line though). I personally don’t find it insensitive but, I can definitely see how others might.
@riversart20307 ай бұрын
Everything that Ted Nugent said is ironically a perfect description of himself, not Kurt.
@YesMan-uy4cj7 ай бұрын
he is alive so?
@simpego817 ай бұрын
@@YesMan-uy4cj a zombie
@YesMan-uy4cj7 ай бұрын
@@simpego81 not bad
@gargoyled_drake5 ай бұрын
Most of the time people are just projecting. We hardly understand what's not inside our selves. So when we point fingers at others and try and assume what could be their dark sides. We often end up revealing our own dark sides as those are the actual only darksides we know about and can realistically in our own mind understand the existence of. This is true for many, many if not almost all the times any human points fingers and blame on someone. Now with this in mind. Take a minute or two to think about what it is Conservatives are throwing out of hate and mistrust about everyone that dosn't fit their box. I would be very concerned with the conservative parties in America with how they act. If just 20% of what they are spewing out is projecting then it's still bad.
@zerozipper42994 ай бұрын
Ted is the guy who fights with PETA members over fences and takes a woodburner ingraving tool to a rare Gibson guitar. He truly is a "madman" lol
@aksel95185 ай бұрын
Respect dead people no matter what u think about them.
@marcreno8937 ай бұрын
Gene Simmons should realize that Kurt’s unplugged album… Almost none of the songs were hits but they were after the night he performed them acoustic
@rmv91947 ай бұрын
HAHAHAHA Come on...
@BugRib7 ай бұрын
@rmv9194 - Okay, but what do you really think?
@Donathon-qx8kq7 ай бұрын
Simmons is nothing but a posers....his opinion is irrelevant
@rmv91947 ай бұрын
@@BugRib great album, but wouldn't go as far as saying they are all hits. Which Is not a bad thing, some songs arent meant to be.
@CaswellWoodruff7 ай бұрын
@@rmv9194that album sold millions of records more than some of sound gardens albums or Alice In Chains and it was a live performance album a lot of people didn’t even know the songs were covers and some of them he did better than the original
@musicffan18637 ай бұрын
Pete admired many of his contemporaries for their struggles.
@Celestosll4 ай бұрын
Peter Steele was amazing RIP
@n1rv4n4.obs3ss3d2 ай бұрын
'' I was simply blown away when i found out that Kurt liked my work, and had always wanted to talk to him about his reason for covering 'The Man Who Sold The World'.'' - David Bowie
@ghostlyworld1017 ай бұрын
Kurt wouldn't of gave a shyyyt about what 90% of these dorks thought or what they had to say. That was part of his awesomeness.
@landofthelividdead4 ай бұрын
facts
@lucashernandez43452 ай бұрын
He liked Metallica and surely he heard about Kiss
@jouliadanilidi2619Ай бұрын
Nirvana ⭐️⭐️⭐️legend ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
@rockhero22747 ай бұрын
Nugent later went on Howard Stern and called Kurt a musical genius. He compared him to Hendrix. Not in his guitar playing but his creative approach with the lyrics and his use of the guitar.
@CageBlack14434 ай бұрын
Talk about being hypocritical.
@saburvd78745 ай бұрын
Kurt Cobain had the best voice and all Nirvana's albums and songs of Bleach, Nevermind, In Utero, Incesticide, Unplugged in New York, and all the bootleg tracks were way better than any music the people dissing him in this video could ever make.
@lucashernandez43452 ай бұрын
That's subjetive.
@rottedminx7 ай бұрын
Peter Steele said “Kurt Cobain is my hero cause he had the balls to shoot himself” in order to understand Peter he just had stupid humor that is not meant to be taken seriously. He did have admiration for nirvana. I’m a fan of both and didn’t automatically hate Steele for that
@jwdunn567 ай бұрын
Incesticide was a B-sides comp that came out in 92. They made a video for Sliver. Why are you posting videos without any fact checking?
@TranzparentMethods7 ай бұрын
Yep. I also hated the fact that the "David Geffen" bit went on for so long. I think what the uploader wanted to talk about was "With The Lights Out", but he messed that up BAD!!!
@shanester18327 ай бұрын
I had never even heard that before. It's not some popular misconception. The mistaking it for 'With the Lights Out' is plausible, but that came out a long time later. Nobody was capitalizing on recent tragedy. It's so wrong it could be a ploy to generate correction comments boosting engagement. If so congrats.
@dariusbrown8332 ай бұрын
Dawg.. I'm a hip hop head. I love and admire Kurt Cobain though. I was shocked to see that so many people were hating on him after his death. I always thought we (as black society and hip hop culture) were the only ones doing that to each other. Smh
@helldeirch7 ай бұрын
one record is enough to be an icon if it's as great as nevermind, it's not about critics, the people decided how great that record was
@wildcardartsent7 ай бұрын
To me not even their best album too.
@aarongarcia43817 ай бұрын
Nevermind is very commercial and sold a lot... But there's a lot of better albums out there
@barkley82857 ай бұрын
@@aarongarcia4381 like what? Nevermind is a top 10 of all time. Changed everything.
@Blackkitty327 ай бұрын
Hiya. Im curious as to what exactly did it change? Who did it influence,? Facts please, thanks x@barkley8285
@aarongarcia43817 ай бұрын
@@barkley8285 nevermind is not top 10 dude, even in utero is better
@napalmslayer7 ай бұрын
But did kiss ever make an album like nevermind?
@wyattcole54527 ай бұрын
No because they didn’t make music like Nevermind
@napalmslayer7 ай бұрын
@@wyattcole5452 Im not talking about the musical style, im talking about the impact made. Gene Simmons says Kurt cant be classed as an icon because he only made three albums but in my opinion Kiss have never made an album as impactful as Nevermind. You'll probably disagree but thats just the way i see it.
@wyattcole54527 ай бұрын
@@napalmslayer I don’t disagree
@zerog10375 ай бұрын
Or in utero. I dont think kiss ever made a solid album
@wyattcole54525 ай бұрын
@@zerog1037 a solid album? They made Dynasty and Dressed to Kill, not including their debut
@irish1653 ай бұрын
Nirvana released 3 albums,along with 5 live albums, two extended play albums and 3 box sets. They are definitely music icons and it didn’t take them as many albums to achieve. Besides bands are iconic on how they change the times,style and direction that music heads moving forward.
@miket73307 ай бұрын
Two albums Gene? Find out before you speak! When Kurt died, NIRVANA had three studio albums and the Incesticide album. We can also make 20 studio albums wich most of the time sound very similar!
@mrlarvux7 ай бұрын
Bleach and incesticide don’t count
@Dfgdf917 ай бұрын
If you had listened to any of the Kiss albums from the 70s, 80s, and 90s you would've realized how ignorant you sound by saying this. Kiss often explored other genres of hard rock while nirvana only stuck to the same boring alternative sound that died faster than Kurt himself lol
@ravenmgrw36 ай бұрын
@@Dfgdf91 KISS has good songs but sounds the same as other bands. Nirvana is something else totally more powerful accompanied by Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, etc. Long live dead grunge
@richlisola17 ай бұрын
I enjoyed Nirvana and Amy Winehouse’s limited catalog more than anything that Kiss ever did. And with respect, there are great rock bands around that simply won’t achieve the same level of stardom as past rock stars, simply because rock isn’t as big now. It no longer holds the zeitgeist. Kiss in their day was big like Taylor Swift is big-Big selling, big tours, but little esteem and few memorable songs.
@SlimShadyOMG4 ай бұрын
Kurt need a respect, same of ALL members in Rock n Roll ❤
@pika-27 ай бұрын
R.I.P. Kurt
@Rip.Kurt-19946 ай бұрын
R.I.P [*]
@shellydavis43997 ай бұрын
It all boils down to jealousy. I seen Metallica when Alice and Chains was to open for them, I guess Layne got sick and they pulled out last second, so Metallica made it into a joke on stage...playing a part of man in a box and kept making a needle from one finger and pretending to slam it into their veins making it all to look like Layne was slamming needles. I can promise you, I was totally into grunge before it broke out into mainstream. I liked Metallica growing up ..but what they did and did to Kurt made me sick as hell and f them...f Ted nugget...but thank you to Johnny Rotten for really doing a great job putting together the words... so perfectly said.
@davej.meister54217 ай бұрын
Jason Newstead NEVER had a single bad thing to say about Nirvana.
@shellydavis43994 ай бұрын
@davej.meister5421 Whatever, but all 4 band members participated in that incident. That is the truth, and if he has no problem with Alice In Chains, fact is he did it also anyways.
@shellydavis43994 ай бұрын
@davej.meister5421 And i never did say anything about Nirvana. Once again, and it's in my comment it's Alice In Chains!!!!!
@ChelseaSmith-ke9ze3 ай бұрын
I never really liked Metallica. They always seemed gimmicky like they were trying too hard to be dark.
@KIR4_X2 ай бұрын
Never liked Eminem, now i have another reason why
@aquaslinky-gaming2 ай бұрын
same
@luisrosario24197 ай бұрын
This guys treat Kurt as a Snowflake. And as John Cleese said: 'Snowflake... Yes I've heard this word. I think sociopaths use it in an attempt to discredit the notion of empathy." Grunge resurrected the possibility of connection with empathy and focus on sensitive issues. I think we need it more than ever!
@BugRib7 ай бұрын
Agree! 👍
@OpheliaDarkling7 ай бұрын
right on brother
@TarasTankFriends5 ай бұрын
John Cleese is a legend himself! I agree, grunge I think was a genre with lyrics that talked about really dark things, struggling with those things and it began what I think was a movement that helped normalize talking about it. Personal struggles, trauma, etc. "Polly" comes to mind, so does "alive" by Pearl jam and "Jeremy", and Alice in chains' "down in a hole" to name a few.
@clottadams50283 ай бұрын
Snowflake isn't just a remark on someone's fragility, but also people's perceived notion that they're some unique individual as opposed to being a branded sheep.
@lukeburton74487 ай бұрын
I think they were all jealous that none of them came even close to how popular Nirvana was.
@bassage137 ай бұрын
Metallica? Are you kidding?
@Kalculus-x2k7 ай бұрын
@@bassage13 OK, Metallica being the execption. They were only jealous because their music wasn't as great as Nirvana's.
@bassage137 ай бұрын
@@Kalculus-x2k I dislike everything after And Justice For All, but they are still one of the most popular bands in history.
@YesMan-uy4cj7 ай бұрын
@@bassage13 looks like we have the same metallica taste
@COFFELAKE-g7 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t say Eminem was jealous. He was just doing what he does.
@michaelchristy506Ай бұрын
Dave mustaines comment wasn’t dark humor, that was just genuinely what he thought, and that’s sad
@enverrrrrrrr7 ай бұрын
2:39 uhm actually in 1993, Pat smear joined nirvana, making it 6 arms and 6 legs. ☝️🤓 3:24 uhm actually, nirvana had 5 records, being Bleach, Nevermind, Insecticide, In Utero, and their Self Titled released in 2002 ☝️🤓
@wyattcole54527 ай бұрын
2002 doesn’t count, but yea. I did wonder if he meant notable albums, but I don’t care to defend him
@davidchez5137 ай бұрын
Pat wasn't an official member, he was a touring member, there's a big difference on that.
@enverrrrrrrr7 ай бұрын
@@davidchez513 true, but wasn’t he actually going to be an actual member of Nirvana before Kurt’s death?
@davidchez5137 ай бұрын
@@enverrrrrrrr Not that I'm aware of, he didn't even record anything on studio with them. In fact, quite the opposite, Kurt already had plans of disbanding in a letter he wrote to Krist but apparently never sent.
@enverrrrrrrr7 ай бұрын
@@davidchez513 He was gonna get a part on You Know You’re Right but never got the chance to
@p0ison_0ak337 ай бұрын
Considering my profile picture is Kurt and Amy.. Not going to lie, I respect kiss for their business model I guess🤔 Everyone knows Gene Simmons is a prick. And honestly James hetfield from metallica, I don't think you would say that today. Lars could fall off the face of the Earth and I wouldn't be sad. And let's be frank, we all know Kurt hated the fame. the camera being on him all the time. I think he just wanted to be a private person and TBH I don't think Kurt did what he did. Obviously he was worth more ded than alive and no one really knows the HOLE truth 💯🤷♀️🤐 Kurt will always and forever be a legend. Their music is timeless.
@megaton_a7 ай бұрын
I'm not a conspiracy minded guy, but.... some things don't add up. Courtney 100% approached Eldon Hoke about killing Kurt for 50K. Maybe it was a joke, maybe not. If so... pretty sick joke. Allen Wrench didn't do it, but someone did, I think. None of us will ever really know the truth, unfortunately.
@Danathema7 ай бұрын
Kurt wanted desperately to be famous and the conspiracy theory is nonsense.
@krampusx97847 ай бұрын
@@Danathema Turns out a guy with a mental illness with an extremely high su!cidality rate, a history of su!cide attempts, su!cidal ideation and a fixation on guns really did [redacted] himself. Who would’ve thought?
@OpheliaDarkling7 ай бұрын
@@megaton_a 🤡
@OpheliaDarkling7 ай бұрын
@@Danathema yes the conspiracy kooks are off the rails and no, he didn't 'desperately' want to be famous. He wanted to be known as an artist, not overexposed, stalked, degraded or harassed. He wanted to make his money and live comfortably. fame is fake and the great destroyer of artists.
@wodzimierz-ht4nz6 ай бұрын
4:10 i don't agree i think that linkin park was way better than kiss
@Liams_gate7 ай бұрын
I think the guys from the 70s and 80s were jealous that kurt brought something new to the table (grunge) and everyone liked it, and they werent getting much people listening to their songs. And i think id have to agree that they were probably jealous that nirvana was stealing the spotlight from them.
@dienamx66967 ай бұрын
Thats also the impression i got from their comments.
@Dfgdf917 ай бұрын
What do they have to be jealous over? Kiss, Metallica, megadeth, all of these bands are successful and not to mention that these guys are actually around to enjoy that success lol
@ravenmgrw36 ай бұрын
@@Dfgdf91 All those bands you name sound the same, that's why jealousy.
@SW-fn7cl4 ай бұрын
@@Dfgdf91highly successful people are often incredibly jealous people for what we would see as no good reason!
@FG-lp1gr4 ай бұрын
gene simons isnt wrong tho. Kurt was never at the levels of fame of these super star groups before him, and he never intended to be. it wasnt a jab at kurt but just a fact. kurt may have been the better songwriter but that has nothing to do with what gene was talking about.
@nileisgoated7 ай бұрын
Honestly kiss isn’t that good, they’re only known for their image and the makeup and stuff, I can’t name a single hit kiss song, Nirvana has well known hits and a image that is easily associated with them similar to how kiss has make up and leather
@davej.meister54217 ай бұрын
KISS had WAY more Top 40 pop hits than Nirvana. At least a dozen of them. Nirvana? NOT even half that.
@peterhopqk7 ай бұрын
@@davej.meister5421maybe not, but Nirvana has better songs.
@davej.meister54217 ай бұрын
@@peterhopqk Nope. Cobain could NEVER play an original guitar solo that distinguished from the chorus. He only copied the chorus. NOT a dang thing was original. Guitar solos matter in rock 'n' roll music imo. KISS could play guitar solos.
@peterhopqk7 ай бұрын
@@davej.meister5421 still Nirvana have better songs.
@nileisgoated7 ай бұрын
@@davej.meister5421 I’ve never heard them so that just shows how relevant they really are
@artysalt5 ай бұрын
7:04 There can be no debate of insensitivity to Cobain about someone who has a tattoo of Cobain on his chest.
@donovancane24224 ай бұрын
Meaning you believe he WASN'T being insensitive?
@hatethreeoneofficial2 ай бұрын
Maybe fred related to the thought of offing himself at one point and therefore, finger guns. Who knows?
@Jayden_cantskate6 ай бұрын
bro why do everyone hate kurt.?? dawg he was a good dude
@WesleyGravolet5 ай бұрын
I don't think anyone hated him necessarily..maybe jealous! But mostly I think everyone was tired of hearing about it at that point...
@lucashernandez43452 ай бұрын
You didn't know him either.
@Crow-jg4sj7 ай бұрын
Ace Frehley was the only talent on Kiss
@devilinthedarkness48304 ай бұрын
👏👏👏 very true
@FloridaIsFull5 ай бұрын
Yay! Love Peter Steele. This makes me even happier I got a Type O Negative tattoo.
@leof24977 ай бұрын
Truth be told, Kurt was also quite harsh in his comments about almost any person or topic possible. You get what you give
@aarongarcia43817 ай бұрын
@@mathurmihir1you met him in person?
@Saint0_07 ай бұрын
@@aarongarcia4381fr idk why people always say that like they knew him 💀
@kevinnashsquad33607 ай бұрын
@@Saint0_0You Nirvana fanboys swallow him and worship him all day 🤣🤣 it’s not like you knew him either.
@unknownstranger68757 ай бұрын
@@Saint0_0I think it’s based on interviews and things they’ve read. From what I’ve read and seen in interviews, he was brutally honest. He still doesn’t deserve to be mocked so cruelly, for the way he left this world.
@aarongarcia43815 ай бұрын
You can't say you know a celebrity just by watching some interviews lol
@SonXo17 ай бұрын
Jerks. As much as I love Metallica and Megadeth, Chill abit. Gosh.
@Brooke-de6df7 ай бұрын
I thought the same thing
@Ale-Mur4 ай бұрын
Didn’t know roblox fans liked Megadeth
@matthewscruggs71044 ай бұрын
Gene Simmons was wrong. Since 1984 we’ve had Michael Jackson, Prince, Eminem just to name a few. I’d argue that Eminem is bigger then Kiss and The Rolling Stones combined. Eminem has had 220 million records sold compared to Kiss at 75 million and The Rolling Stones 66.5 million. That’s what a quick google search shows anyways. Plus Kiss and the Stones have 20 years on Em. I’m case anyone is curious The Beatles have 600 million records sold, Michael has over 500 million and Prince has over 150 million sold.
@effen_aey_man7 ай бұрын
Gene Simmons is so wrong. Seether has become an icon in the music world by his own definition and they started as a Nirvana cover band. Not only have they kept their sound relevant for over 20 years, they have also released 8 studio albums. Kiss was relevant in the 70s but they haven't been the power house they were when they released Rock n Roll all Night. Kurt isn't an icon because he died, he isn't an icon because he wrote 3 albums. Kurt is an icon because he created an entire new genre of rock, that is what makes Kurt bigger than his music. That is something Kiss will never be able to say over the course of 60 years, all they do is play rock n roll that has the same sound as the people who came before them, only they wear make up and have fun stage names. Django Reinhardt had more talent in his 2 fingers than kiss will ever be able to have across all 4 members.
@dbxniker74846 ай бұрын
it doesn’t matter how many albums you have it depends on if they’re good
@rendypramandha50983 ай бұрын
and whatever they say I Love kurt until now, and the truth is his/their music influencing lots of musician around the world, especially in my country - indonesia... grunge never die 🥂👌✊
@TheGothKing7 ай бұрын
Kurt Cobain Tattooed over my Heart .Ben Called Fred Durst and Marilyn Manson Took My Soul.....Gave it all to Music and Music Gave me Everything Back !
@jimmyquick71157 ай бұрын
Incesticide is my favorite Nirvana album, every song on it is a banger
@vardenlongraf46887 ай бұрын
I agree that was probably the best album was Incesticide
@petevaldezbc16 ай бұрын
Beeswax
@punkroxgirl4 ай бұрын
I do love Incesticide and vividly remember when I first got it and heard it. It’s so hard for me to pick a favorite. Most of the time I feel like Bleach is my favorite, but there’s so many songs I love on all of them. In Utero has Milk it and Tourette’s, I really love Stay Away and Territorial Pissings on Nevermind. Really there isn’t a song i don’t like, but I get a new appreciation for different ones over the years.
@chadlebato79432 ай бұрын
When he passed I was instantly waiting on the return of rock, I’m still waiting
@mikenoble31267 ай бұрын
I will sum up all the negative comments by these performers about Kurt in just two "simple" words. "Jealousy" & "Cowards"
@wyattcole54527 ай бұрын
What are you talking about? They don’t sound jealous of being dead, or being a junkie. I don’t like Dave Mustaine or Johnny rotten but they’re not wrong, and the latter is actually very correct.
@Sunnyellow7 ай бұрын
@@wyattcole5452Was the ladder interviewed? Why not the foot stall?
@wyattcole54527 ай бұрын
@@Sunnyellow it would’ve been biased, it’s jealous that Kurt didn’t collaborate with it and a rope, took the easier way out
@demonoising7 ай бұрын
@@wyattcole5452 are you joking or you are just dumb?
@lloromannia7 ай бұрын
@@wyattcole5452the funny thing is that they were all literally junkies
@Pig_Man067 ай бұрын
in the last 40 years of music since the 80's - Pearl Jam 1991 - Present, 11 studio albums - Soundgarden 1984 -1997 2010-2017, 6 studio albums - Alice in Chains 1989 - Present, 9 studio albums - Green Day 1988 - Present, 14 studio albums - blink-182 1993 - Present, 9 studio albums - Linkin Park 1996 - 2017 (Kinda) - 7 studio albums and that's just alt-rock and pop punk, Gene needs a taste of reality. With one song (Smells Like Teen Spirit) Nirvana/Kurt changed music forever, that's more then KISS have ever done in the 40+ year career.
@davej.meister54217 ай бұрын
KISS has been doing it for 5 decades. And they influenced more than just the 80s glam metal scene.
@Pig_Man067 ай бұрын
@@davej.meister5421 yeah good one mate 😂😂😂
@davej.meister54217 ай бұрын
@@Pig_Man06 Smashing Pumpkins and Collective Soul were influenced by KISS.
@Pig_Man067 ай бұрын
@@davej.meister5421 How was an alt band like SP influenced by Kiss 😂
@davej.meister54217 ай бұрын
@@Pig_Man06 Billy Corgan said so. He said it in numerous interviews that he grew up listening to KISS and Ace Frehley was very influential to his guitar playing. His Rockline interviews are living proof of it.
@STRANGEANATOMYBAND6 ай бұрын
The quality (or lack thereof) of his detractors is almost as good an indicator of his character and talent as his fans’ praise.
@chazp34967 ай бұрын
Nirvana did nothing new but somehow, they sure made it feel new. I really wonder what would have happened if Kurt had lived and David had gathered up the courage to step forward as he did with the Foo Fighters. I kind of doubt Kurt's ego would have allowed David to take some of the spotlight from him but if he did, Kurt and David writing songs together would have been incredible. We really need a Nirvana today to reignite rock music.
@EndParenthesis7 ай бұрын
They did write one song together, Dave came up with a few of the parts on Scentless Apprentice. Kurt didn't seem to mind at the time, in one interview he said that he was excited about it and wanted to continue writing together in the future.
@nakumininja7 ай бұрын
Johnny was not insulting..
@PuffinPass4 ай бұрын
Gene is wrong about his take on Kurts status as an icon. In 3 studio albums Nirvana became one of the most influential bands of the time also one of the most recognizable bands. Sure there were better bands just as there are plenty of bands better than Kiss but both have attained icon status whether or not you or I enjoy them.