Celebrity Reactions to Kurt Cobain's Death: The Good, The Bad, and The Surprising!

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@SoundscapesRock
@SoundscapesRock 7 ай бұрын
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@wyattcole5452
@wyattcole5452 7 ай бұрын
Imma guess the halo for Kurt in the thumbnail means he plays good music, whereas the devil horns clearly mean they don’t, the guitarist is the only good thing about Limp Bizkit imo
@JoshMccluskey-jc2kq
@JoshMccluskey-jc2kq 7 ай бұрын
Or figure by Simmons definition of icon that would be selling the most albums out of every band and there's one band that comes a mind that's outsold everybody and that's Linkin Park, so does that mean they're the greatest band ever?
@scottinnh88
@scottinnh88 6 ай бұрын
I saw Megadeath with life of Agony and Coalchamber. Megadeath was the worst band on that stage that’s back in 98.
@korymanuel8682
@korymanuel8682 6 ай бұрын
​@@JoshMccluskey-jc2kqthey'll never sell more than Elvis though......
@aliraelei3313
@aliraelei3313 3 ай бұрын
Kurt Cobain is the best of all time. They are just jealous of him.❤
@metalinyourhead3604
@metalinyourhead3604 7 ай бұрын
On the lighter side: When Dave Grohl met Mötorhead frontman Lemmy Kilmister for the first time, Lemmy looked at him and said “I’m sorry about your friend Kurt”.
@EliRicke-xl9mw
@EliRicke-xl9mw 7 ай бұрын
True
@thaknightryda4971
@thaknightryda4971 7 ай бұрын
Dave Grohl had pay it forward to Pantera's Drummer Vinnie Paul when he had lost his brother, Dimebag Darrell. In a 2008-09 interview on That Metal Show, Vinnie mentioned that Dave reached out to him because he was in that same situation when he had lost Kurt, and Dave told Vinnie about music and how it has helped him a lot throughout the hard times.
@neilpatrickhairless
@neilpatrickhairless 7 ай бұрын
Which is probably the last thing Dave Grohl wanted to hear. Nobody has realized that guy has done everything possible to have his own career that doesn't include Kurt Cobain since Kurt Cobain died lol
@breadguything
@breadguything 7 ай бұрын
@@neilpatrickhairlessKurt was his friend he wasnt trying to seperate himself from Kurt at all
@Stranglerxx77
@Stranglerxx77 7 ай бұрын
Lemmy was a really nice guy
@krisfrederick5001
@krisfrederick5001 7 ай бұрын
"I was simply blown away when I found that Kurt Cobain liked my work, and have always wanted to talk to him about his reasons for covering 'The Man Who Sold the World'." -David Bowie
@criskii
@criskii 7 ай бұрын
David was great
@benjorino
@benjorino 7 ай бұрын
he slept with 14 year olds@@criskii
@criskii
@criskii 7 ай бұрын
@@benjorino David was mostly great
@Laiten
@Laiten 7 ай бұрын
Source?​@@benjorino
@CaswellWoodruff
@CaswellWoodruff 7 ай бұрын
@@benjorino Ted nugent also slept with minors but no one gonna talk about that either 😂
@esmeraldasanchez3453
@esmeraldasanchez3453 6 ай бұрын
“The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts and the stupid ones are full of confidence.” Charles Bukowski
@shamelesskindness
@shamelesskindness 4 ай бұрын
Kurt had confidence
@blastofo
@blastofo 3 ай бұрын
@@shamelesskindness Kurt knew he was talented, but he had self doubts like every artist does. When his record label were unhappy with In Utero, he appeased them and had an outside producer remix their singles, which was a betrayal to Steve Albini.
@avocadoeilishs3969
@avocadoeilishs3969 3 ай бұрын
That was the most suitable comment ever
@dwiganstube
@dwiganstube 3 ай бұрын
Well, who ever Charles Bukowski is, he's wrong. I'm dumber than a box of rocks and I have no confidence whatsoever.
@apimpnamedslickback67
@apimpnamedslickback67 3 ай бұрын
@@dwiganstube Or maybe he's right, and you are smarter than you think you are.🤔
@riversart2030
@riversart2030 7 ай бұрын
The difference between Mustaine and Hetfield's jokes is that Mustaine was put on the spot during a live interview, being asked about someone that he had no connection to. Hetfield on the other hand, went out of his way to make a mockery of Cobain during a performance.
@IHeartNoise
@IHeartNoise 7 ай бұрын
Hetfield also made jokes about Layne...
@HailTheApocalypse
@HailTheApocalypse 7 ай бұрын
Hetfield at the time was a full blown drunk. I'm sure he wouldn't have said anything like that now. And Lars is just a tool. Stage prop if anything.
@LoganTheWittyPizza
@LoganTheWittyPizza 7 ай бұрын
@Ali.Aideel.Ismail
@Ali.Aideel.Ismail 7 ай бұрын
Megadeth & Metallica was in a bad situation when nevermind came out. Thrash metal slowing down and grunge era climbing up. I think it was more hate towards that situation.
@foolishEmporer
@foolishEmporer 7 ай бұрын
@@HailTheApocalypse I think the comment was out of spite. Metallica thought that they were the biggest band in the world, and Nirvana was competition. He knew what he was doing
@edawworld
@edawworld 7 ай бұрын
Hendrix only put out three proper studio albums in his lifetime (same number as Nirvana). And Kiss doesn't even have a "classic" album in contention. Simmons putting his band in league with Led Zeppelin is delusional at best. And if Kurt and Nirvana had ONLY put out Nevermind and nothing else, they'd still outshine Kiss' joke of a legacy.
@ФонФон-й7о
@ФонФон-й7о 7 ай бұрын
KISS is far more influential, even if not as good. More good bands came out of mid af KISS influence, than superb Nirvana.
@enriquepastor3626
@enriquepastor3626 7 ай бұрын
Nah Kiss isn’t near as influential as Nirvana… maybe it was at some point but you’ll always see Kurt in fashion and Nirvana in music
@ФонФон-й7о
@ФонФон-й7о 7 ай бұрын
@@enriquepastor3626 Okay, let's start. Arthur Brown and Alice Cooper were wearing corpsepaint before KISS, but i heard a lot of Black Metal fans took influence from KISS. Bands influenced by KISS: RATM, Pantera, Skid Row, GNR, Pearl Jam, Motley Crue, Alice In Chains, Soundgarden, Mother Love Bone, Mudhoney, Marilyn Manson, White Zombie, Megadeth, Anthrax, Melvins, The Smashing Pumpkins, NIN and the list goes on and on. Nirvana influenced not THIS many good bands. Even though Cobain is better songwriter.
@SilentProti
@SilentProti 7 ай бұрын
​@@ФонФон-й7оbut also, there weren't this many bands good on the same level after 1995 ;")
@Springfeeeel
@Springfeeeel 7 ай бұрын
I completely agree. I just don't understand the Kiss love. They're all gimmick and no talent.
@massdebated
@massdebated 5 ай бұрын
Hearing your favorite bands say things about such a talented band no matter how little music is sad.
@THX48320
@THX48320 3 ай бұрын
Really :(
@wyattc.
@wyattc. 3 ай бұрын
Dave’s was funny tho
@ps.6023
@ps.6023 2 ай бұрын
talented only because he ripped his mentors and heroes the Melvins off.
@CarlosCruz_cc
@CarlosCruz_cc Ай бұрын
@@ps.6023 Oh.. There it is... The guy who knows nothing about music made it's appearance! You can't even grasp the concept of being influenced by your favourite bands and "ripping them off". Please refrain from commenting on music topics. You do not have the necessary understanding of it.
@ps.6023
@ps.6023 Ай бұрын
@@CarlosCruz_cc sit down child. I was actually around when these bands were and influenced LOL seriously? You don't even know who the melvins are without looking up on the internet
@sanctuary8396
@sanctuary8396 7 ай бұрын
A lot of people forget that many of the well-established bands of this era never really took Nirvana, or the entire "grunge" trend seriously.
@trooperdoo7117
@trooperdoo7117 7 ай бұрын
People also forget the metal world hated grunge because grunge "killed" metal
@HailTheApocalypse
@HailTheApocalypse 7 ай бұрын
The hair/glam bands suffered a worse fate. Most of them folded up.
@tonywaldon2596
@tonywaldon2596 7 ай бұрын
Thear was jurney quin bosten they wher I cons ozzey 😂❤
@trimlesscoasters
@trimlesscoasters 7 ай бұрын
Grunge is miles better than hair metal.
@trimlesscoasters
@trimlesscoasters 7 ай бұрын
@@trooperdoo7117it was about hair metal, not metal in general, and tbh we can all agree that we’re glad hair metal is dead.
@krisfrederick5001
@krisfrederick5001 7 ай бұрын
"That was great because it got rid of all those guys with hairspray and leotards. Then Kurt came in like a phoenix and cut them all down like wheat before the sickle. You are done! Nirvana to me was the most significant thing since the Beatles, Very powerful vision, very honest man behind it, I loved him" -Tom Petty
@Erik-bd6ll
@Erik-bd6ll 7 ай бұрын
Bro megadeth and Metallica r still one of the biggest metal bands to this day lmfao
@mtanning
@mtanning 7 ай бұрын
​@@Erik-bd6ll neet
@JohnClMeis
@JohnClMeis 7 ай бұрын
@@mtanningYa.
@aleksastamenkovic5526
@aleksastamenkovic5526 7 ай бұрын
@@Erik-bd6ll Okay and?
@Erik-bd6ll
@Erik-bd6ll 7 ай бұрын
@@aleksastamenkovic5526 he said that Kurt cut em down when he really didn’t and they’re still the biggest heavy metal bands in the world
@JudgementalBudgie
@JudgementalBudgie 3 ай бұрын
I find it ironic that rockstars who performed for freedom, change and non conformity, didn't react so well to a change in music industry. Many of them really ended up hating those who did something differently from them
@lucashernandez4345
@lucashernandez4345 2 ай бұрын
Only those who were affected in their pockets like Gene.
@thelentm
@thelentm 2 ай бұрын
That's basic human nature for you. Majority of the biggest artist get their mind twisted by success and turn it all into commercial projects rather than true art
@anthonybelliveau-ANYONE-2024
@anthonybelliveau-ANYONE-2024 7 ай бұрын
Most of these bands that hate him, hate him because he killed their genres.
@123612100
@123612100 7 ай бұрын
They hate him because he made way for bands like days of the new and matchbox 20.
@OpheliaDarkling
@OpheliaDarkling 7 ай бұрын
@@123612100 he didn't do it, the business executives did it. talk about killing the messenger...all that misdirected anger got them nowhere.
@mackash
@mackash 7 ай бұрын
Yet that 'genre' only lasted about 3 yrs. There is no such thing as grunge these days. Its a finished thing. It was over before we even had time to blink. So its not that. Nirvana hasn't aged well either. Its not something I'll listen to and get nostalgia like most genres. Those "bands" you mention are still going strong. Some are even more popular now than they were. Nirvana is nowhere. Neither is Pearl Jam or Alice in chains. No one cares.
@jamelbunny5732
@jamelbunny5732 7 ай бұрын
​@mackash bruh, who hurt you?
@jjhere2311
@jjhere2311 7 ай бұрын
They hate Kurt becuase Kurt me it clear that he didn’t objective women our care about money , also he made it clear he wasn’t a poser death Rocker
@DanteDiCarloMusic
@DanteDiCarloMusic 7 ай бұрын
Fun fact for Gene Simmons, Nirvana made 3 studio albums, the same amount that Jimi Hendrix recorded before he died. I'm not saying Cobain is up there with Hendrix, but obviously it's not down to how many albums you make before you die.
@christophernash1846
@christophernash1846 7 ай бұрын
To be fair, Hendrix did 3 experience albums and 1 band of band of Gypsys album
@miguelsalgado7431
@miguelsalgado7431 7 ай бұрын
Exactly, Kurt influence is undeniable there are artists today inspired by him and big names, I have yet to hear new artists say kiss inspired them lol
@DanteDiCarloMusic
@DanteDiCarloMusic 7 ай бұрын
@@christophernash1846 that was a live album though, you could also count Nirvana's incesticide album that had been sides etc
@DanteDiCarloMusic
@DanteDiCarloMusic 7 ай бұрын
@@miguelsalgado7431 I think kiss have definitely influenced a lot of people, but Nirvana had a bigger impact for how long they were actually around, and yeah kiss probably dont have much influence on artists now compared to nirvana
@christophernash1846
@christophernash1846 7 ай бұрын
@@DanteDiCarloMusic different band and new songs . They were going to cut an album if Jim didn’t have died.
@Pk_Rain
@Pk_Rain 3 ай бұрын
Glad so many people feel the same as I do about Gene. His band can’t scratch the surface of what Nirvana was and the influence they’ve had and they never will.
@eihtballjnky
@eihtballjnky 3 ай бұрын
Well Kiss inspired a lot more bands than nirvana did but whatever you say pal 😂😂
@crookedspinemusic
@crookedspinemusic 3 ай бұрын
KISS sucks. Although they were influential to many bands, including many “grunge” bands. But they’re more famous for their lunchboxes than their music. Gene is a jealous douche.
@Imadeyourun
@Imadeyourun 2 ай бұрын
Roflol!!! Yeah, sure.
@XxBrickxX
@XxBrickxX 2 ай бұрын
@@Imadeyourun no way this guy said roflol
@Imadeyourun
@Imadeyourun 2 ай бұрын
@@XxBrickxX Yeah, I did, roflol. You got a problem with it, bub?
@Inkubun
@Inkubun 7 ай бұрын
A lot of people forget that Kurt literally changed the music world practically overnight, without really even trying.
@lewissykes811
@lewissykes811 7 ай бұрын
You are correct sir
@VRALLSTARS17
@VRALLSTARS17 7 ай бұрын
Not just that he also started a domino effect in music for example XXXTENTACION stated that Kurt Cobain is his biggest inspiration and that he felt inspired to make music because of Kurt cobain
@LInkinPark4life
@LInkinPark4life 7 ай бұрын
Linkin park too
@Dfgdf91
@Dfgdf91 7 ай бұрын
Changed it for the worse. No wonder why most musicians hated that junkie
@mr.leuphrates1302
@mr.leuphrates1302 7 ай бұрын
Kurt cobain has so many life saves thats why nirvana is my favorite band forever, i started playing guitar because of Nirvana. And kurt also saved my life.
@BreaxSkatez
@BreaxSkatez 7 ай бұрын
Gene simmons saying noone after 1984 is an icon just means he doesn’t want to accept modern music
@charliechaplin852
@charliechaplin852 7 ай бұрын
I like classic rock, but there have definetly been many eehhh I'll finish this comment tommorow
@charliechaplin852
@charliechaplin852 7 ай бұрын
True to my promise, I will now finish my comment. There have been many superstars after 1984. Eminem, Taylor Swift, Justin Bieber, etc. Just because Gene doesn't like the music doesn't mean he shouldn't acknowledge it's existence
@BreaxSkatez
@BreaxSkatez 7 ай бұрын
@@charliechaplin852 fr i dont like Taylor swift but she is iconic
@jolonga9197
@jolonga9197 7 ай бұрын
​@@charliechaplin852 Justin Bieber, i'snt Icon
@charliechaplin852
@charliechaplin852 7 ай бұрын
@@jolonga9197 some people like him, some people don't. Most people know his name and who he is is what I'm saying
@PDid-nv1yl
@PDid-nv1yl 5 ай бұрын
Incesticide was released during Cobain’s lifetime. Kurt authorized the release of the compilation, had full control over the album art, and wrote the liner notes. It was released before Nirvana’s final studio album In Utero. It was not a posthumous release.
@Delusional_Witch
@Delusional_Witch 3 ай бұрын
i'm sure the video script is ai generated
@Ooze27
@Ooze27 3 ай бұрын
Indeed, when that came up, i was like:" it was a long time ago but i remember listening to Incesticide before In Utero". Itr's actually a great album.
@yeetabix2752
@yeetabix2752 2 ай бұрын
Dead internet theory
@scottwilson3741
@scottwilson3741 7 ай бұрын
Simmons was pissed that Nirvana didn't do the tribute album. Plain and simple. How many albums an artist puts out has nothing to do with their legacy. It's the influence they have. Nirvana helped define an entire sub genre of music and to some degree even its fashion. Janis Joplin and Buddy Holly only released 3 albums. Jimi Hendrix had 4. All icons
@daniellev7258
@daniellev7258 7 ай бұрын
Exactly. Sounds to me like a lot of bitterness and jealousy someone was light years more talented
@rayvantassel9592
@rayvantassel9592 7 ай бұрын
Agreed, it's more about quality over quantity.
@aarongarcia4381
@aarongarcia4381 7 ай бұрын
Nirvana is more fashion and a "cool" concept than music itself
@elcheekoful
@elcheekoful 7 ай бұрын
If gene would of done some research. He'd found out very quickly that Kurt was anti mainstream media and didn't like Alot of hair metal 80's artist.. I like gene.
@Jingles466
@Jingles466 7 ай бұрын
​@@aarongarcia4381you don't get it.
@danybr1
@danybr1 7 ай бұрын
all those who showed insensitivity or mocked Kurt in public are curiously also the same ones who couldn't handle the impact that Nirvana had on their music, making it age badly as soon as Nevermind was published
@aarongarcia4381
@aarongarcia4381 7 ай бұрын
Most fans were teenagers and people following the trend
@fuze3771
@fuze3771 7 ай бұрын
@@aarongarcia4381 called the grunge revolution for a reason dude, some guys relate w/ the angsty lyrics n find solace in them, i mean till this day, people still listen to them a lot do they? they defined a generation and put them in flannel, yeah there are many subcultures now but we cant forget the impact theyve done then and now to this day, some people express their pain in different ways, and music is one of them. people who relate to that pain listen to that music to help them.
@VitiatedsHOWTO
@VitiatedsHOWTO 6 ай бұрын
Many of those bands have pretty much fell apart
@penske_material
@penske_material 6 ай бұрын
yeah sure like Eminem 🙄🙄... Before Kurt, music was fun, after him teenagers embraced depressing and thought it was cool.
@MissBooful
@MissBooful 6 ай бұрын
Hell, yes
@redfoxse7en52
@redfoxse7en52 5 ай бұрын
I love that Peter Steele was respectful and understanding. There's a reason he was so loved. Hetfield is just fortunate that so many people have terrible taste in music and even like their new pop metal songs.
@rdrrr
@rdrrr 3 ай бұрын
Peter Steele was a great guy, clearly very intelligent intellectually and emotionally, but without arrogance. Also taken from us too soon. Alcohol abuse took so many brilliant artists, from Jim Morrison to Bob Stinson.
@hermanubis96
@hermanubis96 2 ай бұрын
lmao pop metal? you must be a true metal fan! posers beware! kurt would have hated you
@redfoxse7en52
@redfoxse7en52 Ай бұрын
@@hermanubis96 Did a Midtallica fan get their feelings hurt?
@kindagamer7779
@kindagamer7779 11 күн бұрын
Metallica was legit a great band in the 80s not so much these days tho
@wnerko7484
@wnerko7484 7 ай бұрын
Johnny Rottens remarks werent disrespectful.they were laments of wasted youth and talent
@christineobrien7707
@christineobrien7707 7 ай бұрын
As usual, Mr. Lydon is right on point.👍
@phantombigboss8429
@phantombigboss8429 7 ай бұрын
Johnny Rotten was a wannabe punk clown and now hes getting whats coming to him.
@jorvikaengelskvinna7157
@jorvikaengelskvinna7157 7 ай бұрын
Exactly. John is a very intelligent, perceptive person and has spoken of Kurt publicly several times. He is being completely misrepresented here.
@bassage13
@bassage13 7 ай бұрын
He was speaking from experience. Sid Vicious was his best friend.
@GamblingFentAddict
@GamblingFentAddict 7 ай бұрын
I love it how people always talk about waste like we humans were just a product meant to function and have a purpose
@TreborPaulson
@TreborPaulson 7 ай бұрын
Incesticde was released between Nevermind and Inutero 1992, not after his death
@BugRib
@BugRib 7 ай бұрын
...I think of Incesticide as their second album, and place it there on my shelf.
@chrisknight3734
@chrisknight3734 7 ай бұрын
Also Kurt wrote the liner notes
@keithmcclanahan8117
@keithmcclanahan8117 7 ай бұрын
@@BugRibI think you mean third album my friend.
@kirkwarburton2277
@kirkwarburton2277 7 ай бұрын
Glad you saw that too. Can’t believe they didn’t do a basic fact check.
@kirkwarburton2277
@kirkwarburton2277 7 ай бұрын
Keithmcc… I think he means second. You’re right - it was released third but much of it was recorded or played in the build up to Nevermind.
@letz_getschwifty9785
@letz_getschwifty9785 5 ай бұрын
Kurt Cobain literally changed my life, because of him I started playing my grandmother's £2 guitar from Oxfam that smells of a church 😅 I needed pliers to tune the strings and because of Nirvana's music, nothing stopped me. I've broken my wrist and was told I'll never be able to play guitar again, I proved my surgeon wrong and despite the arthritis, I still play when I can.
@blackorchid17
@blackorchid17 2 ай бұрын
Nice Nirvana changed my life as well Kurt is the reason I picked up a guitar 🎸 🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽
@GabzitoHD
@GabzitoHD 6 ай бұрын
That's sad considering Kurt was a big metallica fan too
@Ashley-g5o2m
@Ashley-g5o2m 2 ай бұрын
wait what. didn’t expect to see you here but like it makes sense. have a good day gabzito.
@GunnReqwan
@GunnReqwan 7 ай бұрын
I don't know what Gene Simmons is talking about. Nirvana has so many songs that can fall under mini albums to bring a grand total of 8 albums Kurt could have had.
@Monkeys_99
@Monkeys_99 4 ай бұрын
Nevermind and ineutero sweep the entire Kiss discography
@kkdream99
@kkdream99 3 ай бұрын
Lol exactly, kiss is a joke haha
@itookthename
@itookthename 3 ай бұрын
Kiss sucks "fans" cant even name one song​@@kkdream99
@Lee-hs4pv
@Lee-hs4pv 3 ай бұрын
Wrong.nice try
@Lee-hs4pv
@Lee-hs4pv 3 ай бұрын
​@@kkdream99your mother us a joke .haha
@Lee-hs4pv
@Lee-hs4pv 3 ай бұрын
​@@itookthenamego back to kissing your sister.
@Kalergi_Plan_Accelerationist
@Kalergi_Plan_Accelerationist 7 ай бұрын
Peter was truly a great man. So humble, polite...
@unknownstranger6875
@unknownstranger6875 7 ай бұрын
That’s why he’s still loved and missed. Type O Negative is one of the greatest bands ever.
@Strange_Guitarist
@Strange_Guitarist 6 ай бұрын
i so agree he was such a good man who created brilliant and funny music
@ryanscottnix
@ryanscottnix 6 ай бұрын
I've never heard anything bad said about Peter Steele. He honestly seems like an all-around great musician and person.
@AktivnaPropaganda
@AktivnaPropaganda 6 ай бұрын
​@@ryanscottnix eh, there's people who'll call him a N@zi because of some jokes he made but it was always clear he wasn't an actually hateful person
@tattered.andtorn
@tattered.andtorn 6 ай бұрын
i miss him so much
@ph4nt0k3n
@ph4nt0k3n 6 ай бұрын
Kiss evaluating bands based on the number of albums really coincides with their lack of quality in their own music and instead focussing on quantity
@bigol9223
@bigol9223 3 ай бұрын
Gene Simmons is just a megajew doing his thing
@etheralsymphony
@etheralsymphony 3 ай бұрын
Exactly! It’s not about the quantity but the quality.
@clemp23
@clemp23 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, and straight up saying « there hasn’t been any real legend in the 30 last years »… Josh Homme, Dave Grohl, Mark Lannegan, Chris Cornell ? Oh yeah right, they made actual music, not brainless rock ballads for 60yo housewives.
@etheralsymphony
@etheralsymphony 3 ай бұрын
@@clemp23Popular music is trash no matter the time or place. Nowadays, in this country (Spain) there’s no way to scape from reggaeton in any restaurant, taxi, bus, street, pubs, television or even in the house people are playing such together with the greatest brainless hits of any genre like pop, trap, flamenco, latin stuff, rap, rock, etc. The fans are between 4 to 90 y/o both men and women. It’s a matter of really digging into music to find treasures. I mean, there’s spectacular musicians, but they rarely have a place in concerts, record labels, auditions, radio or television. It’s a worldwide issue to my knowledge. There’s music just for a few. Don’t expect a world full of dumbs to appreciate it. Still I’d like them to be not almost so difficult to find out. The technologic giants play a big role to hide them. Maybe people won’t be that stupid without such a propaganda that goes to other levels of culture.
@rdrrr
@rdrrr 3 ай бұрын
@@bigol9223 Is his real name Shimonstein or something?
@lisapearson5324
@lisapearson5324 4 ай бұрын
More people talk about Kurt and Nirvana than Kiss, in the UK at least Nirvana gets more airplay today than Kiss. I think its safe to say an icon isnt defined by how many records but more how memorable
@SatansDonkey666
@SatansDonkey666 3 ай бұрын
Today they do. But were you around in the late 1970's? KISS was way bigger than Nirvana ever became. I prefer Nirvana, but don't pretend that KISS was some one hit wonder. They had more than just a smiley face shirt. To this day you can buy coffins, keychains, and dog collars with the name KISS on it.
@lisapearson5324
@lisapearson5324 3 ай бұрын
@SatansDonkey666 I wasn't, I was born in the 80's. I'm not saying KISS aren't big, I don't dislike them, I could name 3 songs, perhaps know 5-6 songs, so I'm also not a fan. From my perspective I see to this day more Nirvana merch and more radio play for Nirvana than Kiss has/gets. So Gene's comment on Kurt has not aged well. Kurt is an icon.
@nicholaschristodoulou5766
@nicholaschristodoulou5766 2 ай бұрын
@@SatansDonkey666of course kiss got more airplay in the 70,s nirvana didn’t exist then
@ice.man95
@ice.man95 2 ай бұрын
@@SatansDonkey666They were big, but not bigger than Nirvana ever was lmao.
@pancake1751
@pancake1751 28 күн бұрын
​@@SatansDonkey666 i don't understand your argument about how big kiss were. In the end there are more people listening to Nirvana than kiss. They may have been great, but Nirvana was just that much more impactful.
@Flicto13
@Flicto13 7 ай бұрын
Ask someone now if they know who Nirvana is, and then ask them if they know who Kiss is? I think you will see who the legends are. People may know the Kiss name but few could name a song. Smells Like Teen Spirit is an anthem that gets played everywhere. Kiss is okay, but Nirvana is a different type of music and on another level.
@neilpatrickhairless
@neilpatrickhairless 7 ай бұрын
Yeah its wild how Nirvana became the radio sellouts Gene always wanted KISS to be
@rmv9194
@rmv9194 7 ай бұрын
Most people would only know Smells like teen spirit, come as you are, I was Made for Loving you and Rock AND Roll all Nite from both bands.
@Senph42
@Senph42 7 ай бұрын
of course we know nirvana: it's a fashion brand, every teen has one of their tshirts from primark... XD
@social191
@social191 7 ай бұрын
No, KISS is a much better band than Nirvana. KISS knows how to inspire with their live performances. Listening to Nirvana put me to sleep.
@arkhamguard6479
@arkhamguard6479 7 ай бұрын
​@@social191the only thing Kiss knows is how to sell out and be f***ing c***s
@samcahntent
@samcahntent 7 ай бұрын
Gene Simmons is a brand, not an artist. He can play bass but he plays the rock persona as his job and you can see he only does it to satisfy his narcissism.
@lmclrain
@lmclrain 7 ай бұрын
an entertainer, perhaps?
@samcahntent
@samcahntent 6 ай бұрын
@@lmclrain Entertainer, yes.
@lmclrain
@lmclrain 6 ай бұрын
@@samcahntent keep it simple, dude people his age think that means to be an artist, pretty much you are an artist if you get to make money, if you gather tons of people, if you get crazy attention, if people look up to you for whatever reason pretty much they learned that during their time, that is that
@samcahntent
@samcahntent 6 ай бұрын
@@lmclrain oh I get that. People say bands like Green Day or even Nirvana/grunge bands “sold out” but if you’re able to make money like that, you’d be stupid not to. But Gene’s thing gives off a vibe like he’s a business man first, which is smart and works, but because of it, it’s hard for me to take anything he says seriously because he comes off pompous and very much about the money and fame before the music. But like I said, it totally works 👌🏻
@spectrecular9721
@spectrecular9721 6 ай бұрын
3:55 - Quality vs quantity. Kiss may have several records, but only a handful of iconic songs. They are still an iconic band, but I would argue that the ones which only have one or two records where nearly every song was a hit just as iconic
@Tommy_Oliver
@Tommy_Oliver 7 ай бұрын
"Cobain is not an icon" 30 years after his death and he still talked about daily 31,348,255 Monthly listeners on Spotify over a billion views on KZbin Sold 75 million records worldwide but yeah he's not an icon
@simpego81
@simpego81 7 ай бұрын
Simmons is just a talentless poser
@MBanega
@MBanega 6 ай бұрын
Exactly. I listen to nirvana to this day since I was like 12
@CommercialSuicideMusic
@CommercialSuicideMusic 6 ай бұрын
He is an icon, sure. But he isnt the most iconic.
@kkech1
@kkech1 4 ай бұрын
I'm not taking anything serious that comes from a man wearing make-up
@miftahulislam2010
@miftahulislam2010 4 ай бұрын
@@simpego81 exactly. i never gave a crap about listening to kiss because of how weird their persona is.
@watkinscharles829
@watkinscharles829 7 ай бұрын
Cobain will forever be an icon & one of the main reasons why I started playing guitar. He was a tortured soul that was around ALOT of bad people in his last days. I still believe if he had a different crowd around him he would probably still be alive? RIP brother 🤘🪦⚰️
@JohnnyAppleseed-yl6fo
@JohnnyAppleseed-yl6fo 6 ай бұрын
I think you're right. Kurt had completely isolated himself with junkies who were only there to take advantage of the money and access to drugs.
@disco.lemonade
@disco.lemonade 6 ай бұрын
I hope you can play more than three chords. You will be better at guitar than he ever was
@aBcEarth1
@aBcEarth1 5 ай бұрын
He needed to be away from his wife. 😢
@watkinscharles829
@watkinscharles829 5 ай бұрын
I can play way more than 3 chords. But he made ALOT of 💰 playing those 3 chords.
@disco.lemonade
@disco.lemonade 5 ай бұрын
@@watkinscharles829 Can't argue with that
@ThompterSHunson
@ThompterSHunson 2 ай бұрын
Nirvana hasn't toured for 30 years now and they have 32.5M Spotify listeners, and KISS has been touring for decades and have 14M listeners. That answers Gene Simmons about the "two albums" and if Kurt's an icon. Nirvana's impact was immense and it is still going.
@psychedelicrevolution4095
@psychedelicrevolution4095 25 күн бұрын
I do prefer Nirvana over KISS but there's also recency bias
@thecommonsenseconservative5576
@thecommonsenseconservative5576 13 күн бұрын
Yeah just ignore the twenty year gap in music fans of each 😂😂😂
@williamolsen20
@williamolsen20 7 ай бұрын
I am not the hugest Nirvana fan, but they are musical icons. They may have only put out a few albums, but they changed the state of music, and that is still being felt.
@selfan2005
@selfan2005 7 ай бұрын
James Hetfield also made fun of Layne Staley that year too.
@SilentProti
@SilentProti 7 ай бұрын
And I bet he'd throw hands if someone joked about Cliff's death.
@lordtrigon1733
@lordtrigon1733 7 ай бұрын
Really not the same thing...
@-trashmammal-
@-trashmammal- 7 ай бұрын
@@lordtrigon1733 I think op meant the same year Layne died. And that's definitely just as bad, if not worse, because Layne had possibly even more of a miserable end than Kurt given how drawn out it was and how he kind of just knew it was coming for so long and had to just wait for what he believed (and was correct in his assumption as it ended up happening) inevitable.
@SilentProti
@SilentProti 7 ай бұрын
@@-trashmammal- not to mention, weren't Metallica friends with Alice in Chains?
@danyinblack
@danyinblack 7 ай бұрын
​@@SilentProtiyes they were at the end and they attended the unplugged of AIC
@minjajanicijevic9325
@minjajanicijevic9325 6 ай бұрын
Many jealous people without empathy. RIP Kurt you are legend
@Mlgmaxwell
@Mlgmaxwell 7 ай бұрын
Fred did not mean any disrespect when he did the finger guns when he covered Nirvana, he does the finger guns during many performances/ songs over the years, it was just taken a bit out of context for the Nirvana cover.
@jessicalandis2721
@jessicalandis2721 7 ай бұрын
Yeh ok
@wolfgang6442
@wolfgang6442 5 ай бұрын
Hmm aight!
@BOBINDUN
@BOBINDUN 5 ай бұрын
I mean he has the guy tattooed on him, i'm certain he likes him
@CyberdyneFTW
@CyberdyneFTW 4 ай бұрын
@@BOBINDUN I agree, and he even did a tiktok with himself dressed as Kurt in a funny but harmless clip where himself and Kurt meet face to face as neighbors. There's alot of mistakes Fred has done since he and his band mates started the band but I highly doubt he'd ever disrespect even Kurt or Nirvana. He's close friends with Dave Grohl by the way.
@watchlistenlearn
@watchlistenlearn 4 ай бұрын
most Nu Metal Bands love Nirvana and alot Of Grunge Bands..Why dont more people make fun of Chester or Chris Cornell? Its all the same..
@frankiehensley2928
@frankiehensley2928 7 ай бұрын
Peter Steele did say that kobain was his hero cause he had the balls to do it.
@jesterofthemad1715
@jesterofthemad1715 4 ай бұрын
Rip Kurt Cobain.. I listen to your music every day, and I always will
@IvanoCordoni
@IvanoCordoni 7 ай бұрын
Kurt Cobain was a great artist, not exceptional in technique but he and his nirvana were important for modern rock... the most important
@punt2263
@punt2263 7 ай бұрын
he was exceptional in technique, people are just squares with no sense of nuance
@deathrowlemon7367
@deathrowlemon7367 7 ай бұрын
Only people that care about technical skill are guitar geeks and snobs. And those people are never artists. They’re just people that play instruments.
@rmv9194
@rmv9194 7 ай бұрын
and Rock Is currently dead... No wonder...
@Evsta
@Evsta 7 ай бұрын
dude rock is dead like absolutely 100% dead now we have ice spice n taylor swift thank god trust the autotune abusers to save the music industry who put the children in the studio
@deathrowlemon7367
@deathrowlemon7367 7 ай бұрын
@@Evsta rock n roll as a mainstream genre yes but there’s still many localized scenes in many places and people come out to shows.
@birthrootssanctuary5499
@birthrootssanctuary5499 7 ай бұрын
Who cares what gene Simmons says
@EvisMucaTvp
@EvisMucaTvp 5 ай бұрын
Who cares what all the people in the video said. For me it's totally irrelevant. In the end what remains is the music created 😂
@juweee_yt
@juweee_yt 5 ай бұрын
Lol, it absolutely makes no sense 😆
@tilster3239
@tilster3239 5 ай бұрын
Lol he spoke truth
@AriadnaPorea
@AriadnaPorea 5 ай бұрын
@@tilster3239wdym?
@majorfeelgoodrecords2740
@majorfeelgoodrecords2740 5 ай бұрын
Who cares what anyone says 🎼🤘🏻
@wickedbeardz
@wickedbeardz 4 ай бұрын
cant believe so many ppl down talked his death.
@adrianlee3497
@adrianlee3497 7 ай бұрын
When Nevermind came out and Teen Spirit hit, Nirvana ended up creating a buzz that hadn't been seen since The Beatles hit. It was Beatlemania all over again, Nirvana was simple, relatable, and dressed like normal guys. Having a drummer like Ghrol definitely helped. It's also my opinion *only* that Kurt probably never expected Nirvana to be so successful, which more than likely contributed to his passing. Edit; Because I haven't said enough about Kurt's talent as a songwriter, Kurt Cobain was a poet for the times that was definitely ready for a generation that was hungry for something different, he wasn't as proficient a guitarist as EVH or any of his peers at the time but Kurt was very effective at what he did. Kurt and Nirvana were and are still to this day very much icons because they ended up as game changers.
@finnmcginn9931
@finnmcginn9931 7 ай бұрын
Not even close to Beatlemania.
@Kirkmeister
@Kirkmeister 7 ай бұрын
​@finnmcginn9931 if we are judging based on purely album sales, there is only a two million copy difference between the best selling album of each band. If you also want to also throw in broadcasting, MTV was around and Nirvana was all over that, yet The Beatles did have a massive viewer base on the Ed Sullivan show. Arguably, Nirvana's impact is on par, if not only slightly less powerful than The Beatles.
@TranceSFX
@TranceSFX 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, not even close to beatlemania
@Joe.s11
@Joe.s11 6 ай бұрын
I love nirvana but they were not even close to the Beatles
@jonsmith-il4yv
@jonsmith-il4yv 4 ай бұрын
Nirvana was good, but you are high or brain dead if you think nirvana's impact was anywhere close to Beatlemania.
@Microtonal_Cats
@Microtonal_Cats 7 ай бұрын
Gene Simmons is always saying something incorrect.
@webcityguymyclubb4032
@webcityguymyclubb4032 4 ай бұрын
That’s because he doesn't have a clue.
@hamilgregorio1451
@hamilgregorio1451 4 ай бұрын
Since Cobain died no band has been bigger than them and three albums is quality over quantity
@jshdhsufhc3437
@jshdhsufhc3437 Ай бұрын
Insane glaze
@archityps
@archityps 7 ай бұрын
"Cobain was toxic", "He was a weenie" says a clearly non-toxic person. I am reminded of a South Park episode about Britney Spears.
@MUSICWIZARD93
@MUSICWIZARD93 7 ай бұрын
Even though Kurt Cobain tragically passed away, Nirvana will always be a legendary band, not because Kurt passed away but the impact that they left on the music they made.
@shamelesskindness
@shamelesskindness 4 ай бұрын
It wasn't tragic
@Grim_sights
@Grim_sights 2 ай бұрын
@@shamelesskindnessragebait
@CarlosCruz_cc
@CarlosCruz_cc Ай бұрын
@@shamelesskindness Aww... Need attention, don't you?!
@jonathontoney2338
@jonathontoney2338 3 ай бұрын
An Icon is anyone who leaves a long-lasting positive impact on music. That can be a single song if its enough to change hearts and minds, or it could be a mega career or 20 records. The fact that we still talk about Kurt to this day proves he had a impact on our lives.
@bobby_c07
@bobby_c07 7 ай бұрын
I think Cobain would have laughed at Mustaine's comment lol
@mateoosimani7279
@mateoosimani7279 7 ай бұрын
And you didn't think it. There's hundreds of comments saying exactly what you said. You're not original about that comment. And Kurt wouldn't laugh about it. Are you stupid or what?
@triphophoney2981
@triphophoney2981 7 ай бұрын
That's what I thought too. 😂
@josephvega3763
@josephvega3763 6 ай бұрын
Me too
@Sapphiredrawing
@Sapphiredrawing 5 ай бұрын
Did you know him?
@icessoup
@icessoup 4 ай бұрын
Considering how he expressed himself he probably wouldve enjoyed​ someone ditching him@@Sapphiredrawing
@thetownspeople6486
@thetownspeople6486 7 ай бұрын
Randy Rhodes…….. 2 albums and still a legend.
@danielmrtns
@danielmrtns 7 ай бұрын
Randy Rhodes: Crazy Train alone and he is already a legend. More so than Gene Simmons, at least.
@scottwilson3741
@scottwilson3741 7 ай бұрын
He also played with Quiet Riot after he and Ozzy parted ways
@jobrakai9395
@jobrakai9395 7 ай бұрын
And a hell of lot better musician than Gene
@thetownspeople6486
@thetownspeople6486 7 ай бұрын
@@scottwilson3741 before he played with Ozzy.
@scottwilson3741
@scottwilson3741 7 ай бұрын
@@thetownspeople6486 my bad. That is right
@markadairofficial
@markadairofficial 3 ай бұрын
A lot of these people are very bitter and jealous because they wanted what Kurt didn't want : to become an icon (due to pressure).
@fyoutube2294
@fyoutube2294 7 ай бұрын
Eminem didn’t diss him but they were insensitive remarks. But to be fair he made insensitive remarks to Lady Gaga but he’s gone on record saying he loves Lady Gaga
@wyattcole5452
@wyattcole5452 7 ай бұрын
She’s easy to make those remarks about
@Spooky_515
@Spooky_515 7 ай бұрын
Slim wiggy. Dude had three good albums and then turned into the epitome of what he was proclaimed to hate
@fyoutube2294
@fyoutube2294 7 ай бұрын
@@Spooky_515 strong disagree but thats your prerogative
@lullsbaby9321
@lullsbaby9321 7 ай бұрын
Since when is it insensitive to describe what happened?
@fyoutube2294
@fyoutube2294 7 ай бұрын
@@lullsbaby9321 say your mother passed away in a similar fashion as Kurt. It might be insensitive to describe what happened to her in the fashion eminem did on the song he did it (the song title) on for the sake of shock value (a clever line though). I personally don’t find it insensitive but, I can definitely see how others might.
@riversart2030
@riversart2030 7 ай бұрын
Everything that Ted Nugent said is ironically a perfect description of himself, not Kurt.
@YesMan-uy4cj
@YesMan-uy4cj 7 ай бұрын
he is alive so?
@simpego81
@simpego81 7 ай бұрын
​@@YesMan-uy4cj a zombie
@YesMan-uy4cj
@YesMan-uy4cj 7 ай бұрын
@@simpego81 not bad
@gargoyled_drake
@gargoyled_drake 5 ай бұрын
Most of the time people are just projecting. We hardly understand what's not inside our selves. So when we point fingers at others and try and assume what could be their dark sides. We often end up revealing our own dark sides as those are the actual only darksides we know about and can realistically in our own mind understand the existence of. This is true for many, many if not almost all the times any human points fingers and blame on someone. Now with this in mind. Take a minute or two to think about what it is Conservatives are throwing out of hate and mistrust about everyone that dosn't fit their box. I would be very concerned with the conservative parties in America with how they act. If just 20% of what they are spewing out is projecting then it's still bad.
@zerozipper4299
@zerozipper4299 4 ай бұрын
Ted is the guy who fights with PETA members over fences and takes a woodburner ingraving tool to a rare Gibson guitar. He truly is a "madman" lol
@aksel9518
@aksel9518 5 ай бұрын
Respect dead people no matter what u think about them.
@marcreno893
@marcreno893 7 ай бұрын
Gene Simmons should realize that Kurt’s unplugged album… Almost none of the songs were hits but they were after the night he performed them acoustic
@rmv9194
@rmv9194 7 ай бұрын
HAHAHAHA Come on...
@BugRib
@BugRib 7 ай бұрын
@rmv9194 - Okay, but what do you really think?
@Donathon-qx8kq
@Donathon-qx8kq 7 ай бұрын
Simmons is nothing but a posers....his opinion is irrelevant
@rmv9194
@rmv9194 7 ай бұрын
@@BugRib great album, but wouldn't go as far as saying they are all hits. Which Is not a bad thing, some songs arent meant to be.
@CaswellWoodruff
@CaswellWoodruff 7 ай бұрын
⁠@@rmv9194that album sold millions of records more than some of sound gardens albums or Alice In Chains and it was a live performance album a lot of people didn’t even know the songs were covers and some of them he did better than the original
@musicffan1863
@musicffan1863 7 ай бұрын
Pete admired many of his contemporaries for their struggles.
@Celestosll
@Celestosll 4 ай бұрын
Peter Steele was amazing RIP
@n1rv4n4.obs3ss3d
@n1rv4n4.obs3ss3d 2 ай бұрын
'' I was simply blown away when i found out that Kurt liked my work, and had always wanted to talk to him about his reason for covering 'The Man Who Sold The World'.'' - David Bowie
@ghostlyworld101
@ghostlyworld101 7 ай бұрын
Kurt wouldn't of gave a shyyyt about what 90% of these dorks thought or what they had to say. That was part of his awesomeness.
@landofthelividdead
@landofthelividdead 4 ай бұрын
facts
@lucashernandez4345
@lucashernandez4345 2 ай бұрын
He liked Metallica and surely he heard about Kiss
@jouliadanilidi2619
@jouliadanilidi2619 Ай бұрын
Nirvana ⭐️⭐️⭐️legend ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
@rockhero2274
@rockhero2274 7 ай бұрын
Nugent later went on Howard Stern and called Kurt a musical genius. He compared him to Hendrix. Not in his guitar playing but his creative approach with the lyrics and his use of the guitar.
@CageBlack1443
@CageBlack1443 4 ай бұрын
Talk about being hypocritical.
@saburvd7874
@saburvd7874 5 ай бұрын
Kurt Cobain had the best voice and all Nirvana's albums and songs of Bleach, Nevermind, In Utero, Incesticide, Unplugged in New York, and all the bootleg tracks were way better than any music the people dissing him in this video could ever make.
@lucashernandez4345
@lucashernandez4345 2 ай бұрын
That's subjetive.
@rottedminx
@rottedminx 7 ай бұрын
Peter Steele said “Kurt Cobain is my hero cause he had the balls to shoot himself” in order to understand Peter he just had stupid humor that is not meant to be taken seriously. He did have admiration for nirvana. I’m a fan of both and didn’t automatically hate Steele for that
@jwdunn56
@jwdunn56 7 ай бұрын
Incesticide was a B-sides comp that came out in 92. They made a video for Sliver. Why are you posting videos without any fact checking?
@TranzparentMethods
@TranzparentMethods 7 ай бұрын
Yep. I also hated the fact that the "David Geffen" bit went on for so long. I think what the uploader wanted to talk about was "With The Lights Out", but he messed that up BAD!!!
@shanester1832
@shanester1832 7 ай бұрын
I had never even heard that before. It's not some popular misconception. The mistaking it for 'With the Lights Out' is plausible, but that came out a long time later. Nobody was capitalizing on recent tragedy. It's so wrong it could be a ploy to generate correction comments boosting engagement. If so congrats.
@dariusbrown833
@dariusbrown833 2 ай бұрын
Dawg.. I'm a hip hop head. I love and admire Kurt Cobain though. I was shocked to see that so many people were hating on him after his death. I always thought we (as black society and hip hop culture) were the only ones doing that to each other. Smh
@helldeirch
@helldeirch 7 ай бұрын
one record is enough to be an icon if it's as great as nevermind, it's not about critics, the people decided how great that record was
@wildcardartsent
@wildcardartsent 7 ай бұрын
To me not even their best album too.
@aarongarcia4381
@aarongarcia4381 7 ай бұрын
Nevermind is very commercial and sold a lot... But there's a lot of better albums out there
@barkley8285
@barkley8285 7 ай бұрын
@@aarongarcia4381 like what? Nevermind is a top 10 of all time. Changed everything.
@Blackkitty32
@Blackkitty32 7 ай бұрын
Hiya. Im curious as to what exactly did it change? Who did it influence,? Facts please, thanks x​@barkley8285
@aarongarcia4381
@aarongarcia4381 7 ай бұрын
@@barkley8285 nevermind is not top 10 dude, even in utero is better
@napalmslayer
@napalmslayer 7 ай бұрын
But did kiss ever make an album like nevermind?
@wyattcole5452
@wyattcole5452 7 ай бұрын
No because they didn’t make music like Nevermind
@napalmslayer
@napalmslayer 7 ай бұрын
@@wyattcole5452 Im not talking about the musical style, im talking about the impact made. Gene Simmons says Kurt cant be classed as an icon because he only made three albums but in my opinion Kiss have never made an album as impactful as Nevermind. You'll probably disagree but thats just the way i see it.
@wyattcole5452
@wyattcole5452 7 ай бұрын
@@napalmslayer I don’t disagree
@zerog1037
@zerog1037 5 ай бұрын
Or in utero. I dont think kiss ever made a solid album
@wyattcole5452
@wyattcole5452 5 ай бұрын
@@zerog1037 a solid album? They made Dynasty and Dressed to Kill, not including their debut
@irish165
@irish165 3 ай бұрын
Nirvana released 3 albums,along with 5 live albums, two extended play albums and 3 box sets. They are definitely music icons and it didn’t take them as many albums to achieve. Besides bands are iconic on how they change the times,style and direction that music heads moving forward.
@miket7330
@miket7330 7 ай бұрын
Two albums Gene? Find out before you speak! When Kurt died, NIRVANA had three studio albums and the Incesticide album. We can also make 20 studio albums wich most of the time sound very similar!
@mrlarvux
@mrlarvux 7 ай бұрын
Bleach and incesticide don’t count
@Dfgdf91
@Dfgdf91 7 ай бұрын
If you had listened to any of the Kiss albums from the 70s, 80s, and 90s you would've realized how ignorant you sound by saying this. Kiss often explored other genres of hard rock while nirvana only stuck to the same boring alternative sound that died faster than Kurt himself lol
@ravenmgrw3
@ravenmgrw3 6 ай бұрын
@@Dfgdf91 KISS has good songs but sounds the same as other bands. Nirvana is something else totally more powerful accompanied by Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, etc. Long live dead grunge
@richlisola1
@richlisola1 7 ай бұрын
I enjoyed Nirvana and Amy Winehouse’s limited catalog more than anything that Kiss ever did. And with respect, there are great rock bands around that simply won’t achieve the same level of stardom as past rock stars, simply because rock isn’t as big now. It no longer holds the zeitgeist. Kiss in their day was big like Taylor Swift is big-Big selling, big tours, but little esteem and few memorable songs.
@SlimShadyOMG
@SlimShadyOMG 4 ай бұрын
Kurt need a respect, same of ALL members in Rock n Roll ❤
@pika-2
@pika-2 7 ай бұрын
R.I.P. Kurt
@Rip.Kurt-1994
@Rip.Kurt-1994 6 ай бұрын
R.I.P [*]
@shellydavis4399
@shellydavis4399 7 ай бұрын
It all boils down to jealousy. I seen Metallica when Alice and Chains was to open for them, I guess Layne got sick and they pulled out last second, so Metallica made it into a joke on stage...playing a part of man in a box and kept making a needle from one finger and pretending to slam it into their veins making it all to look like Layne was slamming needles. I can promise you, I was totally into grunge before it broke out into mainstream. I liked Metallica growing up ..but what they did and did to Kurt made me sick as hell and f them...f Ted nugget...but thank you to Johnny Rotten for really doing a great job putting together the words... so perfectly said.
@davej.meister5421
@davej.meister5421 7 ай бұрын
Jason Newstead NEVER had a single bad thing to say about Nirvana.
@shellydavis4399
@shellydavis4399 4 ай бұрын
@davej.meister5421 Whatever, but all 4 band members participated in that incident. That is the truth, and if he has no problem with Alice In Chains, fact is he did it also anyways.
@shellydavis4399
@shellydavis4399 4 ай бұрын
@davej.meister5421 And i never did say anything about Nirvana. Once again, and it's in my comment it's Alice In Chains!!!!!
@ChelseaSmith-ke9ze
@ChelseaSmith-ke9ze 3 ай бұрын
I never really liked Metallica. They always seemed gimmicky like they were trying too hard to be dark.
@KIR4_X
@KIR4_X 2 ай бұрын
Never liked Eminem, now i have another reason why
@aquaslinky-gaming
@aquaslinky-gaming 2 ай бұрын
same
@luisrosario2419
@luisrosario2419 7 ай бұрын
This guys treat Kurt as a Snowflake. And as John Cleese said: 'Snowflake... Yes I've heard this word. I think sociopaths use it in an attempt to discredit the notion of empathy." Grunge resurrected the possibility of connection with empathy and focus on sensitive issues. I think we need it more than ever!
@BugRib
@BugRib 7 ай бұрын
Agree! 👍
@OpheliaDarkling
@OpheliaDarkling 7 ай бұрын
right on brother
@TarasTankFriends
@TarasTankFriends 5 ай бұрын
John Cleese is a legend himself! I agree, grunge I think was a genre with lyrics that talked about really dark things, struggling with those things and it began what I think was a movement that helped normalize talking about it. Personal struggles, trauma, etc. "Polly" comes to mind, so does "alive" by Pearl jam and "Jeremy", and Alice in chains' "down in a hole" to name a few.
@clottadams5028
@clottadams5028 3 ай бұрын
Snowflake isn't just a remark on someone's fragility, but also people's perceived notion that they're some unique individual as opposed to being a branded sheep.
@lukeburton7448
@lukeburton7448 7 ай бұрын
I think they were all jealous that none of them came even close to how popular Nirvana was.
@bassage13
@bassage13 7 ай бұрын
Metallica? Are you kidding?
@Kalculus-x2k
@Kalculus-x2k 7 ай бұрын
​@@bassage13 OK, Metallica being the execption. They were only jealous because their music wasn't as great as Nirvana's.
@bassage13
@bassage13 7 ай бұрын
@@Kalculus-x2k I dislike everything after And Justice For All, but they are still one of the most popular bands in history.
@YesMan-uy4cj
@YesMan-uy4cj 7 ай бұрын
@@bassage13 looks like we have the same metallica taste
@COFFELAKE-g
@COFFELAKE-g 7 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t say Eminem was jealous. He was just doing what he does.
@michaelchristy506
@michaelchristy506 Ай бұрын
Dave mustaines comment wasn’t dark humor, that was just genuinely what he thought, and that’s sad
@enverrrrrrrr
@enverrrrrrrr 7 ай бұрын
2:39 uhm actually in 1993, Pat smear joined nirvana, making it 6 arms and 6 legs. ☝️🤓 3:24 uhm actually, nirvana had 5 records, being Bleach, Nevermind, Insecticide, In Utero, and their Self Titled released in 2002 ☝️🤓
@wyattcole5452
@wyattcole5452 7 ай бұрын
2002 doesn’t count, but yea. I did wonder if he meant notable albums, but I don’t care to defend him
@davidchez513
@davidchez513 7 ай бұрын
Pat wasn't an official member, he was a touring member, there's a big difference on that.
@enverrrrrrrr
@enverrrrrrrr 7 ай бұрын
@@davidchez513 true, but wasn’t he actually going to be an actual member of Nirvana before Kurt’s death?
@davidchez513
@davidchez513 7 ай бұрын
@@enverrrrrrrr Not that I'm aware of, he didn't even record anything on studio with them. In fact, quite the opposite, Kurt already had plans of disbanding in a letter he wrote to Krist but apparently never sent.
@enverrrrrrrr
@enverrrrrrrr 7 ай бұрын
@@davidchez513 He was gonna get a part on You Know You’re Right but never got the chance to
@p0ison_0ak33
@p0ison_0ak33 7 ай бұрын
Considering my profile picture is Kurt and Amy.. Not going to lie, I respect kiss for their business model I guess🤔 Everyone knows Gene Simmons is a prick. And honestly James hetfield from metallica, I don't think you would say that today. Lars could fall off the face of the Earth and I wouldn't be sad. And let's be frank, we all know Kurt hated the fame. the camera being on him all the time. I think he just wanted to be a private person and TBH I don't think Kurt did what he did. Obviously he was worth more ded than alive and no one really knows the HOLE truth 💯🤷‍♀️🤐 Kurt will always and forever be a legend. Their music is timeless.
@megaton_a
@megaton_a 7 ай бұрын
I'm not a conspiracy minded guy, but.... some things don't add up. Courtney 100% approached Eldon Hoke about killing Kurt for 50K. Maybe it was a joke, maybe not. If so... pretty sick joke. Allen Wrench didn't do it, but someone did, I think. None of us will ever really know the truth, unfortunately.
@Danathema
@Danathema 7 ай бұрын
Kurt wanted desperately to be famous and the conspiracy theory is nonsense.
@krampusx9784
@krampusx9784 7 ай бұрын
@@Danathema Turns out a guy with a mental illness with an extremely high su!cidality rate, a history of su!cide attempts, su!cidal ideation and a fixation on guns really did [redacted] himself. Who would’ve thought?
@OpheliaDarkling
@OpheliaDarkling 7 ай бұрын
@@megaton_a 🤡
@OpheliaDarkling
@OpheliaDarkling 7 ай бұрын
@@Danathema yes the conspiracy kooks are off the rails and no, he didn't 'desperately' want to be famous. He wanted to be known as an artist, not overexposed, stalked, degraded or harassed. He wanted to make his money and live comfortably. fame is fake and the great destroyer of artists.
@wodzimierz-ht4nz
@wodzimierz-ht4nz 6 ай бұрын
4:10 i don't agree i think that linkin park was way better than kiss
@Liams_gate
@Liams_gate 7 ай бұрын
I think the guys from the 70s and 80s were jealous that kurt brought something new to the table (grunge) and everyone liked it, and they werent getting much people listening to their songs. And i think id have to agree that they were probably jealous that nirvana was stealing the spotlight from them.
@dienamx6696
@dienamx6696 7 ай бұрын
Thats also the impression i got from their comments.
@Dfgdf91
@Dfgdf91 7 ай бұрын
What do they have to be jealous over? Kiss, Metallica, megadeth, all of these bands are successful and not to mention that these guys are actually around to enjoy that success lol
@ravenmgrw3
@ravenmgrw3 6 ай бұрын
@@Dfgdf91 All those bands you name sound the same, that's why jealousy.
@SW-fn7cl
@SW-fn7cl 4 ай бұрын
​@@Dfgdf91highly successful people are often incredibly jealous people for what we would see as no good reason!
@FG-lp1gr
@FG-lp1gr 4 ай бұрын
gene simons isnt wrong tho. Kurt was never at the levels of fame of these super star groups before him, and he never intended to be. it wasnt a jab at kurt but just a fact. kurt may have been the better songwriter but that has nothing to do with what gene was talking about.
@nileisgoated
@nileisgoated 7 ай бұрын
Honestly kiss isn’t that good, they’re only known for their image and the makeup and stuff, I can’t name a single hit kiss song, Nirvana has well known hits and a image that is easily associated with them similar to how kiss has make up and leather
@davej.meister5421
@davej.meister5421 7 ай бұрын
KISS had WAY more Top 40 pop hits than Nirvana. At least a dozen of them. Nirvana? NOT even half that.
@peterhopqk
@peterhopqk 7 ай бұрын
​@@davej.meister5421maybe not, but Nirvana has better songs.
@davej.meister5421
@davej.meister5421 7 ай бұрын
@@peterhopqk Nope. Cobain could NEVER play an original guitar solo that distinguished from the chorus. He only copied the chorus. NOT a dang thing was original. Guitar solos matter in rock 'n' roll music imo. KISS could play guitar solos.
@peterhopqk
@peterhopqk 7 ай бұрын
@@davej.meister5421 still Nirvana have better songs.
@nileisgoated
@nileisgoated 7 ай бұрын
@@davej.meister5421 I’ve never heard them so that just shows how relevant they really are
@artysalt
@artysalt 5 ай бұрын
7:04 There can be no debate of insensitivity to Cobain about someone who has a tattoo of Cobain on his chest.
@donovancane2422
@donovancane2422 4 ай бұрын
Meaning you believe he WASN'T being insensitive?
@hatethreeoneofficial
@hatethreeoneofficial 2 ай бұрын
Maybe fred related to the thought of offing himself at one point and therefore, finger guns. Who knows?
@Jayden_cantskate
@Jayden_cantskate 6 ай бұрын
bro why do everyone hate kurt.?? dawg he was a good dude
@WesleyGravolet
@WesleyGravolet 5 ай бұрын
I don't think anyone hated him necessarily..maybe jealous! But mostly I think everyone was tired of hearing about it at that point...
@lucashernandez4345
@lucashernandez4345 2 ай бұрын
You didn't know him either.
@Crow-jg4sj
@Crow-jg4sj 7 ай бұрын
Ace Frehley was the only talent on Kiss
@devilinthedarkness4830
@devilinthedarkness4830 4 ай бұрын
👏👏👏 very true
@FloridaIsFull
@FloridaIsFull 5 ай бұрын
Yay! Love Peter Steele. This makes me even happier I got a Type O Negative tattoo.
@leof2497
@leof2497 7 ай бұрын
Truth be told, Kurt was also quite harsh in his comments about almost any person or topic possible. You get what you give
@aarongarcia4381
@aarongarcia4381 7 ай бұрын
​@@mathurmihir1you met him in person?
@Saint0_0
@Saint0_0 7 ай бұрын
@@aarongarcia4381fr idk why people always say that like they knew him 💀
@kevinnashsquad3360
@kevinnashsquad3360 7 ай бұрын
⁠@@Saint0_0You Nirvana fanboys swallow him and worship him all day 🤣🤣 it’s not like you knew him either.
@unknownstranger6875
@unknownstranger6875 7 ай бұрын
@@Saint0_0I think it’s based on interviews and things they’ve read. From what I’ve read and seen in interviews, he was brutally honest. He still doesn’t deserve to be mocked so cruelly, for the way he left this world.
@aarongarcia4381
@aarongarcia4381 5 ай бұрын
You can't say you know a celebrity just by watching some interviews lol
@SonXo1
@SonXo1 7 ай бұрын
Jerks. As much as I love Metallica and Megadeth, Chill abit. Gosh.
@Brooke-de6df
@Brooke-de6df 7 ай бұрын
I thought the same thing
@Ale-Mur
@Ale-Mur 4 ай бұрын
Didn’t know roblox fans liked Megadeth
@matthewscruggs7104
@matthewscruggs7104 4 ай бұрын
Gene Simmons was wrong. Since 1984 we’ve had Michael Jackson, Prince, Eminem just to name a few. I’d argue that Eminem is bigger then Kiss and The Rolling Stones combined. Eminem has had 220 million records sold compared to Kiss at 75 million and The Rolling Stones 66.5 million. That’s what a quick google search shows anyways. Plus Kiss and the Stones have 20 years on Em. I’m case anyone is curious The Beatles have 600 million records sold, Michael has over 500 million and Prince has over 150 million sold.
@effen_aey_man
@effen_aey_man 7 ай бұрын
Gene Simmons is so wrong. Seether has become an icon in the music world by his own definition and they started as a Nirvana cover band. Not only have they kept their sound relevant for over 20 years, they have also released 8 studio albums. Kiss was relevant in the 70s but they haven't been the power house they were when they released Rock n Roll all Night. Kurt isn't an icon because he died, he isn't an icon because he wrote 3 albums. Kurt is an icon because he created an entire new genre of rock, that is what makes Kurt bigger than his music. That is something Kiss will never be able to say over the course of 60 years, all they do is play rock n roll that has the same sound as the people who came before them, only they wear make up and have fun stage names. Django Reinhardt had more talent in his 2 fingers than kiss will ever be able to have across all 4 members.
@dbxniker7484
@dbxniker7484 6 ай бұрын
it doesn’t matter how many albums you have it depends on if they’re good
@rendypramandha5098
@rendypramandha5098 3 ай бұрын
and whatever they say I Love kurt until now, and the truth is his/their music influencing lots of musician around the world, especially in my country - indonesia... grunge never die 🥂👌✊
@TheGothKing
@TheGothKing 7 ай бұрын
Kurt Cobain Tattooed over my Heart .Ben Called Fred Durst and Marilyn Manson Took My Soul.....Gave it all to Music and Music Gave me Everything Back !
@jimmyquick7115
@jimmyquick7115 7 ай бұрын
Incesticide is my favorite Nirvana album, every song on it is a banger
@vardenlongraf4688
@vardenlongraf4688 7 ай бұрын
I agree that was probably the best album was Incesticide
@petevaldezbc1
@petevaldezbc1 6 ай бұрын
Beeswax
@punkroxgirl
@punkroxgirl 4 ай бұрын
I do love Incesticide and vividly remember when I first got it and heard it. It’s so hard for me to pick a favorite. Most of the time I feel like Bleach is my favorite, but there’s so many songs I love on all of them. In Utero has Milk it and Tourette’s, I really love Stay Away and Territorial Pissings on Nevermind. Really there isn’t a song i don’t like, but I get a new appreciation for different ones over the years.
@chadlebato7943
@chadlebato7943 2 ай бұрын
When he passed I was instantly waiting on the return of rock, I’m still waiting
@mikenoble3126
@mikenoble3126 7 ай бұрын
I will sum up all the negative comments by these performers about Kurt in just two "simple" words. "Jealousy" & "Cowards"
@wyattcole5452
@wyattcole5452 7 ай бұрын
What are you talking about? They don’t sound jealous of being dead, or being a junkie. I don’t like Dave Mustaine or Johnny rotten but they’re not wrong, and the latter is actually very correct.
@Sunnyellow
@Sunnyellow 7 ай бұрын
@@wyattcole5452Was the ladder interviewed? Why not the foot stall?
@wyattcole5452
@wyattcole5452 7 ай бұрын
@@Sunnyellow it would’ve been biased, it’s jealous that Kurt didn’t collaborate with it and a rope, took the easier way out
@demonoising
@demonoising 7 ай бұрын
@@wyattcole5452 are you joking or you are just dumb?
@lloromannia
@lloromannia 7 ай бұрын
@@wyattcole5452the funny thing is that they were all literally junkies
@Pig_Man06
@Pig_Man06 7 ай бұрын
in the last 40 years of music since the 80's - Pearl Jam 1991 - Present, 11 studio albums - Soundgarden 1984 -1997 2010-2017, 6 studio albums - Alice in Chains 1989 - Present, 9 studio albums - Green Day 1988 - Present, 14 studio albums - blink-182 1993 - Present, 9 studio albums - Linkin Park 1996 - 2017 (Kinda) - 7 studio albums and that's just alt-rock and pop punk, Gene needs a taste of reality. With one song (Smells Like Teen Spirit) Nirvana/Kurt changed music forever, that's more then KISS have ever done in the 40+ year career.
@davej.meister5421
@davej.meister5421 7 ай бұрын
KISS has been doing it for 5 decades. And they influenced more than just the 80s glam metal scene.
@Pig_Man06
@Pig_Man06 7 ай бұрын
@@davej.meister5421 yeah good one mate 😂😂😂
@davej.meister5421
@davej.meister5421 7 ай бұрын
@@Pig_Man06 Smashing Pumpkins and Collective Soul were influenced by KISS.
@Pig_Man06
@Pig_Man06 7 ай бұрын
@@davej.meister5421 How was an alt band like SP influenced by Kiss 😂
@davej.meister5421
@davej.meister5421 7 ай бұрын
@@Pig_Man06 Billy Corgan said so. He said it in numerous interviews that he grew up listening to KISS and Ace Frehley was very influential to his guitar playing. His Rockline interviews are living proof of it.
@STRANGEANATOMYBAND
@STRANGEANATOMYBAND 6 ай бұрын
The quality (or lack thereof) of his detractors is almost as good an indicator of his character and talent as his fans’ praise.
@chazp3496
@chazp3496 7 ай бұрын
Nirvana did nothing new but somehow, they sure made it feel new. I really wonder what would have happened if Kurt had lived and David had gathered up the courage to step forward as he did with the Foo Fighters. I kind of doubt Kurt's ego would have allowed David to take some of the spotlight from him but if he did, Kurt and David writing songs together would have been incredible. We really need a Nirvana today to reignite rock music.
@EndParenthesis
@EndParenthesis 7 ай бұрын
They did write one song together, Dave came up with a few of the parts on Scentless Apprentice. Kurt didn't seem to mind at the time, in one interview he said that he was excited about it and wanted to continue writing together in the future.
@nakumininja
@nakumininja 7 ай бұрын
Johnny was not insulting..
@PuffinPass
@PuffinPass 4 ай бұрын
Gene is wrong about his take on Kurts status as an icon. In 3 studio albums Nirvana became one of the most influential bands of the time also one of the most recognizable bands. Sure there were better bands just as there are plenty of bands better than Kiss but both have attained icon status whether or not you or I enjoy them.
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