Celtics sweep Pacers, Kyrie Irving and Mavs, Bill Walton’s legacy | NBA | THE HERD

The Boston Celtics swept the Indiana Pacers and are now in the NBA Finals. Colin Cowherd and Nick Wright discuss the Celtics’ path to the Finals, and if they can win it all with this core. Plus, they discuss Kyrie Irving’s impact on the Dallas Mavericks’ series with the Minnesota Timberwolves, as well as Bill Walton’s legacy.
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Celtics sweep Pacers, Kyrie Irving and Mavs, Bill Walton’s legacy | NBA | THE HERD
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[@TheHerdOnFS1]

Check out the What’s Wright? with Nick Wright podcast: sprtspod.fox/WhatsWright_YT

[@benkylo8015]

no

[@danielfuller4129]

The Bill Walton chat was one of the most sincere things I’ve seen in a bit. Took me back to Colin’s early ESPN radio days tbh. Learned and also “felt” more about Bill, from the obviously sincere and heartfelt knowledge and feelings that both Colin and Nick have, albeit from different eras and perspectives.

[@MoeDavinci]

It’s sad that we only get this sort of commentary when people have fallen. I’ve always liked and respected Bill and felt he’s left off of a lot of basketball topics (and this is coming from someone who is in their late 20s). I do appreciate Nick and Colin showing love to him at this time.

[@100ovrbatmanbron7]

if Tingus Pingus comes back i think Boston will probably win

[@georgiorussell8705]

Depends on if he's hampered

[@thatfatguy7591]

@@georgiorussell8705 true he could be a liability. might be worse to have him out there. we'll just have to see him on court. but def without him Celtics don't have anyone bigger than 6'9 38 yr old horford to hold back gafford/lively/kleber(possibly)

[@jaykdub926]

Who tf is Tingus Pingus?!

[@AidanHutchinson-wncp3po]

@@thatfatguy7591I doubt it. They were talking about bringing him back in game 4/5 this series. Has plenty of time to get ready. He’ll be fine I think

[@NahomHaile]

@@jaykdub926iykyk 🤷‍♂️

[@ArtisticControl1985]

great clip. loved the conversation about Bill Walton, sincere and in a loving and respectful tone, just like Bill liked to conduct himself. more convos like these are welcomed!

[@smoothALOE]

Thanks for being so generous about Bill Walton, guys.i feel like I lost a friend with his passing. I’ll miss him.

[@samgonzales3860]

Dirk wasn't a top 5 player in 2011? Wild take

[@meinking22]

RIP Bill Walton. Total Legend.

[@buster_roo]

8:45 Bill Walton talk

[@genius179]

Mentioning Roberto Clemente in that category is weird because when Clemente passed away, he already had 3,000 hits

[@ThomasBragdon-cm2jz]

I remember when Walton played.and commentator always had a smile I would say best college player ever and the most balanced man ❤ RIP Bill you are quite the humanbeing. Thanks for the memories

[@troyajohnson26]

Kyrie also took a stance on the shape of the earth...

[@ThiccEagle]

Foolish yet brave

[@leeabel3854]

Yep, flat earth.

[@AnthonyLopez-cc9nf]

But that doesn't affect anyone. It's just what he believed. No one was forcing him to put something into his body

[@rabz5642]

The earth is egg shaped anyhow!!

[@jasonscott5932]

@@leeabel3854 cute face diaper.

[@spoogtastic]

Nick picked denver out of the west before the playoffs started, did he think we just forgot? No he didnt pick the mavs initially.

[@gabriel-uc1uz]

No he didn't he picked the Lakers but still I agree he did not pick the Mavs lol

[@mickmoon5619]

He picked them to win LAST year

[@killz954]

That was Wildes not him

[@djknight8167]

He picked the lakers but if denver beat them he had dallas over them

[@tomstorm7926]

@@djknight8167that’s a lie. He picked denver after they beat lakers because like everyone else he assume whoever wins that series wins the title

[@cmoney1928]

Spurs 2014 didn't have a top 10 player in the NBA the time they won in. Obviously Duncan is all time but he was old.

[@havok6280]

Parker was second team all NBA. By definition that's a top 10 player.

[@BaithNa]

Detroit in 2004 is another example of this.

[@jimmyjay689]

Exactly...5 rings

[@jimmyjay689]

​@@havok6280so then Tatums an alpha, he is 1st team

[@swpdisciple]

Kawhi was already all defensive 1st team and 2 years later all nba 1st team so if we did the thought experiment he was basically top 10 at the time of the 2014 finals. Not to mention Parker was all nba 2nd team

[@juansoto1693]

For the Boston Celtics, it's a no-win situation. The team can't catch a break with these sports analysts. They seem to forget that the Indiana Pacers had the top offense in the NBA, averaging 123.3 points per game.

[@Prince__Major]

They didn’t forget .. that’s all they talked about before and after game 1

[@terronmathes]

they lost their best player man

[@annoyedPikachu]

@@terronmathes and we haven't had KP since the first round, what's your point?

[@djknight8167]

​@annoyedPikachu are you comparing a teams best player to their 4 or 5th best? You can't be serious

[@daa_97]

@@djknight8167Tyrese been bad since all star break stop acting like it was some huge miss not having him nemhard was better then him this series

[@HunterAMTV]

What else the celtics need to do to earn the respect they deserve form the media? They play whos in front of them and they consistently win by 15+, and when they arent blowing a team out they are closing out a tight game in the clutch. 12-2 in the playoffs. Tatum and Jaylen just averaged 30ppg each in the ECF. They have 2 lockdown guards. It just has to be bias because what am I missing? Yet all I hear is this team is gonna get stomped on by the mavs or wolves.

[@swpdisciple]

I mean, he want like 7 years where it was “always something” with him from 2016-2023. He’s just now settled in after getting the contract he wanted and an ideal roster to his skill set. The thing about Nick Wright’s review of Kyrie while in the wilderness is he missed promising resigning with Boston and going back on his word, really for no reason both ways. Not being a good connective leader on that team despite basically demanding that situation. He also took random unexcused games off with Brooklyn. That’s not to mention being injury prone for many years (not his fault in theory). I think Kyrie is an example of how many chances you can get if you’re good at what you do and well-liked.

[@mario1223456]

It has to be drive ratings. If this many people actually felt that confident in Mavs over Celtics than the sports books wouldn't have the Celtics as heavy favourites.

[@tayeld7171]

So both Jays avg 30 in the ECF but they are not give me the ball and I’ll get a bucket? What are you even talking about 😂😂

[@jeremyrhansen6637]

Ya and just watching both teams... The Celtics always go to show off ball... The Mavs set a zillion screens and throw lobs for the big guys all day!

[@Blacklist324]

That '86 Celtics team, considered one of top teams in nba history, (their home record was 40-1) playing in probably the most physical era in nba history. And let this sink in, they had just four black players.

[@jimmyjay689]

Only Colin would put Kyrie in the same sentence as Jordan😅...Jordan had alot of coaches? He won 6 rings with Phil Jackson

[@reesematic3]

Facts!! He had 3 coaches smh..Like colin be lying!

[@lukewilliam3601]

Well he had 3 coaches in his first 3 years (I think). So he chewed through them early and landed on Phil. Who knows what happens if Phil isn't there.

[@jamaalrocha1093]

Great segment, I would include Grant Hill and T-Mac to the list of players that would have been great had it not been for injury. Nick nailed that take

[@TCGexclusive]

Never forget Colin said Ben Simmons was the next all time great player and face of the league.

[@trollinthedungeon5255]

Even when he was “good” that was a ridiculous take.

[@djknight8167]

He seemed to be on that trajectory his rookie and sophomore year

[@dii1314]

@@djknight8167 Brad Stevens exposed Ben Simmons in his "rookie" season.

[@djknight8167]

@@dii1314 so one team? Out of how many?

[@stackonez7182]

You’re acting like these guys are psychics lol everybody has takes that age well and takes that age like milk. Part of the game.

[@jordangoldbach]

Colins utter lack of understanding of the gravitational pull of tatum off ball is hilarious

[@Joes35]

Lol what gravitational pull does a 29% 3 pt shooter have? You make him sound like Steph curry lmao

[@jordangoldbach]

@@Joes35 you don't watch the games do you

[@Joes35]

@@jordangoldbach yes lol I do. You’re delusional if you think Tatums pull off ball is any more than most stars in the league. If anything, Tatums roster allows for him to have less attention than 90 percent of stars. Why don’t you say something worthwhile instead of “you must not watch games” lol nerd.

[@aneesabashir8496]

Breaks of the Game is a great book. Awesome shout out, Nick!

[@jq8913]

Ahhh 2 certified Celtics haters

[@simcosports2584]

I mean, the stats are there that it’s unlikely they win the title, but they certainly can. I don’t feel like it’s hate, it’s just commentary.

[@worksbydandeprez]

They hate the Celtics so much they called the 1986 Celtics the best team in NBA history.

[@THROWBACK_Sports]

@@simcosports2584 lol what stats? Skip is that you?

[@THROWBACK_Sports]

@@worksbydandeprez Bruh go listen again. Neither of them said they were the best team in NBA history.. They said "People would say the 1986 Celtics were the best team in NBA History" Nick Wright is a known Lebron lover and Colin is just a white Stephen A

[@Shirley-lx5sz]

@@simcosports2584the stats actually suggest they are overwhelmingly favorites… are u delusional?

[@gjack916]

If You know Colin, you know he’s at his best when he’s talking 70s basketball. If there is anyway to bring back his spanning the globe segment, blended with some sort of 70s basketball history lesson, it would be just epic!

[@NadeDogg]

Great segment on Bill Walton

[@isaacnewton3514]

I love how in NBA, Tatum being the 5/6th best player in the league is a BAD thing 😂

[@tjayd1225]

Nick has an elite way of articulating his points that makes it really easy to understand. These 2 just perfectly illustrated that if you agree with a talking point it’s brave, if you disagree it’s cooky or you’re crazy. Kyrie took a real stand and cost himself legitimate money from the nets because of it

[@thetaikonaut8397]

Celtics can go 16-0 and these two will still hate.

[@TexasRawdogMMA]

Theyve already lost twice so no they actually cant go 16-0

[@johnlevine3384]

Great tribute to Bill Walton, RIP

[@Sam-jx8tv]

Saying Tatum is the 6th or 7th best player in the league is disrespectful AF. He's top 5 for sure.

[@swpdisciple]

I’m a super Celtics fan my whole life (I’m 44) and he’s not far off. The ones that are definitely ahead are jokic, Giannis, SGA, Luka, Embiid, so the highest he’d be is 6. That’s pretty fair.

[@scruffd0g193]

@@swpdiscipletop 6ish is fair.

[@Sam-jx8tv]

@@swpdisciple I'd take him over SGA.

[@swpdisciple]

@@Sam-jx8tv the eye test and analytics don’t say that. I’d prob lean toward JT due to size but SGA is the better offensive player and probably on ball defense too

[@cparksaffluent]

@@swpdisciple I'd rather have Tatum than Giannis any day.

[@coachgriffin7925]

This is why we love Nick.

[@brendanroy452]

Nick picked the Lakers to win. He picked the Mavs last year. The dude can never be wrong.

[@brandonburns18]

Roberto Clemente played 17 years until he was 37 years old… he had 3,000 hits. We saw the best of his career

[@jacobpatterson9143]

Wes unseld also for big men passers. Another one K Love can sling that basketball!!!!

[@elliotness11]

Bill Walton and Snapper Jones were the best color commentary duo the NBA ever dreamed up. “Throw it down big man, throw it down” is forever 🐐

[@dandylion6]

Glad to have Colin back

[@cmst3403]

Someone probably already corrected Mr. Wright, but "The Breaks of the Game" was written by journalist David Halberstam.

[@patjev2740]

This hippie in Portland who nobody could stop 😂

[@jimmyjay689]

Spurs won 5 rings without an Alpha...wtf he yapping about?

[@towasinakindele]

Back to back MVP, 15x All NBA Tim Duncan wasn’t an alpha? That’s certainly an opinion

[@sprayer97]

i wonder why no one ever talks about Michael Thomas in the terms of what he could have been. People seemingly disliked him too much to care. But that boy was shattering every Wr record his first 4 seasons and peaked as not only being the best Wr in the whole League at the time but also braking the single season reception record. That boy coulda been one of the best wr of all time.

[@j_k9261]

"So I grew up in the pacific northwest" ...........we know

[@legochickenguy4938]

for the record The Breaks of the Game was written by David Halberstram idk who Tom Halberstram is

[@stoniestarks1045]

He retweeted a link to the Doc they act like he went on a promo tour about it😂😂😂 the media promoted the Doc more than anyone

[@Jackson-sd5iq]

I see Nick wright on here & i click

[@sheraldhill2728]

Great segment

[@PJPUNISHER63]

Best sports segment

[@ersteimmobilie7419]

The Mavs in 2011 won many tough series, because of Dirk. The LeBron meltdown is a spin.

[@InvestBetter.]

Bill Walton May have deserved the Hall of Fame, with his two year run of MVP, 2-Time All-Defensive First Team, leading the NBA in rebounding, and bringing Portland a title, which we see is virtually impossible, Did not deserve Top 75 All-Time Team in 1999, only scoring 6200 pts In his best years, he never scored 19 points a game. Always one of the NBA's great ambassadors and analysts. He will be missed

[@krisinhere1691]

Nick wants us all to know why he was wrong. Just say you were wrong bro.

[@swpdisciple]

What’s funny is Nick didn’t even fully run through all of KI’s issues the last 7 years. Good for him though.

[@lilxtra6211]

Lmao saying Kyrie didn’t watch that documentary is Hillarious

[@swpdisciple]

It would be worse if he did watch it at the time he tweeted/posted. I agree with Nick, I think he agreed with what the title implied and didn’t realize what the book was saying about um, certain people. It happens to even smart people like Daryl Morey. He tweeted in support of Hong Kong thinking China was gonna let it go…China cut off telecasts for awhile costing the NBA over $500M. I’m sure he didn’t bargain for that. Same deal with Kyrie. I always say, never write a check on someone else’s dime. Had the NBA not taken the stance it did against Kyrie they faced huge sanctions and backlash.

[@zairethinker]

@@swpdisciple no he watched it, hes a person that seeks knowledge and learning new information. nothing wrong with it

[@lilxtra6211]

​@@swpdisciple You're right, he definitely posted a link to a book he hadn't read. Normal people definitely do that. I'm sure Morey didn't mean what he said either. Right? Because he came out and apologized to China like a trained dog since the nba told him to. Think what you want, Kyrie 100% knew what he was posting. He can believe whatever he wants but this weird "no no it's okay he doesn't actually believe it he just made a public post to millions of people because he's too stupid to know what he's doing" is cope.

[@swpdisciple]

@@lilxtra6211 I think you’re going a different way with things that isn’t what I was saying and again, actually makes it worse. I don’t want my comment blocked so I can’t say everything explicitly. I’ll start with Daryl Morey…I think it’s 100% correct that he thought he sent a throwaway tweet, not realizing that there would be blowback. I don’t think the NBA cared per se but they do care about the $500M lost! Not only that, along with Covid, that reduced everyone’s salary (I hope you know that)…players received pro-rated salaries that season. That was published in sports illustrated/ESPN that season. That’s very real. I think he thought he was sending a hippie type “free Tibet” tweet and it was no big deal. Clearly China (where the NBA gets a lot of its revenue) thinks “stand with Hong Kong” is a huge deal. I don’t know how else to put it or what ethical resolution you’re looking for. Morey basically dissed an employer of the NBA. What did you think they were gonna do? Saying KI didn’t read the book is the lightest explanation of things. Are you willing to say he endorsed the book because he believes in what it says? Listen, I grew up in black barbershops, I’ve heard the were the real Israelites stuff since I was a little boy. I’m 44 now. We all just treated it like it was your kooky uncle saying whatever and kept it moving. My belief, is KI looked at the role and assumed it stopped there. I don’t even think real Israelites have a huge issue with that. The book also went on to say (again I’m parsing my language) that the J’s are a nefarious group and an invisible hand kinda steering things in the works for the worse, the Holocaust wasn’t what it was recorded historically to be etc…basically all of the tropes you can find readily at any hate group meeting. I’ve gotta believe KI is not of that opinion. I think that’s what Nick Wright was trying to say. It wasn’t about his intelligence, though I’d add KI comes across as someone who thinks he’s smarter than he really is, flat earth notwithstanding.

[@joshuat5140]

Media are hating on Luka and kyrie hard lol. Mavs had the toughest road to the finals. Clippers, 1 okc and 1 defense wolves. So dont be shocked if the mavs beat celtics and win the finals. Im rooting for them to. Luka and kyrie deserve a ring this yr with how well they balled out.

[@jasperezekiel4893]

The spurs too are one of the teams to do it in 2014

[@MrJuly221976]

Michael Jordan "RAN THROUGH" coaches? These two are LeBron Lovers and Celtics Haters, so...take everything with a grain of salt.

[@tomstorm7926]

😂😂

[@somtngwong7781]

Last 40 years? Got to include the two Bad Boy Piston teams.

[@anthonyblakely399]

Celtics are playing the way they started the season! Just great coaching! Mavs are offense heavy! Not defense heavy like the Celtics!

[@bartphlegar8212]

Nick mentioned PAC-10 After Dark... 😃...I know the game was in Tucson, and I think it was Arizona-USC. Bill Walton must've been on painkillers that night (God bless him), but I don't think I stopped laughing the entire game. The game itself was a predictable dud, but I kept watching because of Walton. He was rambling about everything from Constitutional law to certain types of candies. He sang. I can't for the life of me remember who was on the PxP, but he couldn't stop laughing either. The game played itself without narrative while this sublime oratory was taking place...Another "what if?"...What if they had teamed Bill Walton at some point with Charles Barkley on a segment?... 🤣..."Comedy Goes Nuclear"...RIP BW, and thanks for the memories...

[@cjaimez5895]

I'm cool with the Cs being the modern Spurs. People talk Kobe/Bron, last time I checked, Duncan won 5 in that span 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@evanross5810]

Pretty sure Nick picked the Lakers but glad he gets multiple choices every year to win the title

[@jaysonehammond3736]

The way these media personalities talk about kyrie off the court, you would’ve thought he committed the most egregious crimes

[@leojones22]

Bill Walton was an athletic great defender, could score and a great passer and rebounder, if not for his injuries, Blazers would have won the 1977 and 1978 back to back Championships RIP Mountain Man,

[@realrocg2509]

88 game win streak is mind blowing!

[@MrIcognegro]

Whatever team has the most Astocks will win because Astocks wins championships.

[@clifftanton8385]

Legendary man

[@StocktonSmurf]

Nick reminding the country that Kyrie was ENTIRELY untrustworthy when he joined DAL is important, just like you and me from 15-35 years old, people can change a lot as they mature over time

[@GetenIce]

We have two of the best young superstars in the league playing each other for a championship and all the sports shows are trying to spin it into this super team vs Luka has been extremely sad

[@fredo4070]

Really nice tribute to Bill from Nick Wright. Say what you want about his sensationalistic/provocative style, but the guy's great.

[@maroonporsche]

The other day Nick said Tatum is comparable to Chris Webber or Patrick Ewing. What if he breaks thru and gets that title and FMVP. Nick would have to give some credit

[@MzVolcanicrox]

Jordon ran through coaches?

[@robertalvarez6348]

Nick dressed like the JOKER.🦇🦇🦇

[@G4productionz]

TATUM SWAGG AND STL ORA IS ALL WE NEED ❤😂

[@ellerywilliams1534]

Wtf! Shaq is that of the modern era

[@s.2470]

This is a fantastic silent film. If I could read lips, maybe I could understand what they're saying.

[@drew0513]

You're not missing much. Even if you could hear them, no one would understand what they're saying.

[@jeffakin3095]

2011 MAVS??? nobody in the league at the time could've done what dirk did at the time! EXCEPT lebron. nobody else. kobe was done. duncan was transitioning to a new role. durant wasn't there yet. dirk was 2!... TWO!!!!

[@htills_vintage_co]

PLEASE FIX YOUR AUDIO (I just want to hear Nick & Colin)

[@geoycs]

I love Bill Walton!! He’s so great, and he truly was one of the two best centers in history of college. However, he is not better than Akeem Olajuwon, and probably never would have been even if he hadn’t gotten injured 😎

[@alfredramirez6402]

Noone was better than Akeem

[@ryanmason3359]

2014 spurs too. Duncan wasn’t still on that top 5 list then.

[@boscocfh]

Nick don't make excuses for that 04 Lakers team. They still would have lost to that pistons team.

[@Cerp777]

PLEASE FIX THE SOUND. ITS BEEN LKIE THIS FOR OVER A MONTH, ITS RIDICULOSLY QUIET.

[@Roc_Official]

10:44 Let’s show respect to Pete Maravich too mr know it all.

[@angelatanurdzic7508]

I like this episode tonight.

[@JagAss-ls7ie]

Remember Bill Walton when he played for the Clippers? I think he was up most of the time.

[@rayreese8924]

the Breaks of the Game by “David” Halberstam

[@brianogrady3185]

I love how Colin will say something in passing like it’s factual. “Michael Jordan went through a bunch of coaches, he just stayed in Chicago”. He had 2 coaches before Phil Jackson. And he famously was against firing Doug Collins because that was his guy. So…what are you talking about, Colin??

[@phillipabsher3469]

David Thompson was the greatest college basketball player, who beat Walton in the final four in double overtime with a cast of misfits. Look up an interview online where Walton himself talks about David Thompson, if you think I'm crazy.

[@clmrchris]

When did Michael Jordan run through coaches??

[@CiviL_Machine]

When the Mavs finish off the t wolves.... It ain't over yet boyyo

[@GaryGettenberg]

Nobody remembers that Walton really shot 24-25 in that game. Three baskets were disallowed because of the no dunk rule.

[@LeoDunson2]

Colin was trying to say Walton was outspoken and we loved him. Kyrie has been outspoken and the media has hated him. I wonder what’s the difference between the two?

[@KillaB]

Nick your argument is subjective Tatum is a top 5 player and more than capable of winning a ring.

[@kuegenticomedy]

Whoppi was treating gerrymandering like it was the N Word....lol. This show kills me 😅

[@pokerguy2210]

Strong disagree on 2011 Mavs not having a top 5 guy. Dirk was a top 5 guy. I’d say 2014 spurs should be on that list. Duncan was great for his age but not top 5. No one else on that team was top 5 either as kawhi wasn’t close to his prime yet

[@austinbutler9452]

steph curry is the only player to maintain sustained greatness without being hated

[@cotecode]

A lot of these talking heads keep asking the question who is guarding Luka & Kyrie? Besides the fact that Boston probably has the best options available to guard those guys, the bigger question is who is guarding Tatum & Brown plus the supporting cast? Kyrie is not handling JB & Luka cannot stop Tatum. So if that ends up being the matchup we'll see I guess. Even if Luka & Kyrie outscore Tatum & Brown by a small margin, the Celtics have 4 other guys who can give you 20+ on a given night. Who's guarding those guys? That'll decide the series.

[@jayG21219]

Nick continues to advance this moronic argument.. you ever think these guys get statues BECAUSE they win championships??? It’s a self fulfilling prophecy. Although these losers will probably still hate on Tatum even if he wins a chip.

[@stacblocjosh8656]

“WHEN I WAS A YOUNG WARTHOOOOOOOGGGG”

[@samcole4425]

Pete Maravich not in the best college player list?

[@Olyphantman]

I stood 10 toes down with Kyrie on his Vax stance. He’s maligned in the present and he took the arrows but history will treat him kindly in hindsight. He was on the right side of history

[@markstanton2362]

I disagree Colin. Clemente was 38 and in the twilight of his career when he tragically passed.

[@taronowens5338]

Lmao nick is cap with the “ I WANTED TO BE BILL WALTON” stuff 😭 rip bill walton