Cement All vs Hydrostone | The Ultimate Candle Jar Battle

Here is a complete breakdown of the differences between Cement All & Hydrostone and which one you should consider when making concrete candle jars. Do you prefer Cement All or do you prefer Hydrostone? If you don't know the answer to that question you will after watching the ultimate battle between both Cement All vs. Hydrostone.
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0:00 Intro
1:19 What is Cement All?
1:55 What is Hydrostone?
2:28 Topics of Discussion
3:09 Accessibility
3:57 Ease of Use
6:31 How to Make Concrete Candle Jars Online Course
7:43 Pigment Application
9:53 Demolding Times
10:22 Curing Times
11:44 Weight
12:32 Safety
15:05 Sealing
16:36 Potential Problems
19:45 Strength
20:45 Cost
22:00 Recap
22:37 Cement All vs. Hydrostone Burn Test
23:25 Results
24:15 2 Important Categories Between Cement All & Hydrostone
24:45 Big Picture of Cost Between Cement All & Hydrostone
26:23 My Favorite
27:15 Half Cement All & Half Hydrostone Candle Jar
**DISCLAIMER: Everything shared in my videos is from my own personal experience and is for educational and informational purposes only. You must do your own research and test your own products to ensure that your creations are usable and safe**

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[@calafiacandleco]

Thanks for the information, Jai! I have some hydrostone on the way. Can't wait to try it out.

[@upvibecandle]

I love it but I would love to hear what you think. Hydrostone is the new Cement All imo. Now if I can only find a way to get it in Home Depot.

[@s44577]

I just love your presentations! Informative and humorous ❤

[@allyg2009]

This is exactly what I needed. Great analysis as always!

[@upvibecandle]

You are very welcome.

[@tzipporahbragg9798]

Wow, great breakdown. Thanks!

[@jejebenji]

Excellent video! You covered EVERYTHING! I learned so much. Thank you!

[@upvibecandle]

Glad the video helped.

[@jasonyandow3145]

Just used Hydrostone for the first time last week to cast a loudspeaker enclosure. Was trying to find something more economical than epoxy resin to fill large spaces. Watched some of your videos the last couple of days and was researching Cement-All vs Hydrostone this morning when your video popped up. Serendipitous timing, just what I was looking for and a great video! I got the Hydrostone I used from Amazon, $36 for 10lbs and I am really liking it so far. Thank you, good luck and keep up the great work!

[@upvibecandle]

This is a case of Great Minds Think Alike!!! Love it!

[@ivnstudios6135]

Thank you, Excellent Video the best on youtube about the topic

[@allenschrockyoung6975]

Great video. Would you mind sharing where you purchased the hydrostone in Canada? Thanks!!!

[@barzucci]

If you want more strength you can add 10% white cement to Hydrostone and result is great. If you want to have more professional result; instead of 30%water with Hydrostone 25-27% water + 5% TiO2 will create perfect result for you. Also if you add 0.5-1% Potassium Sulfate to water, demold time would reach to 10-15 minutes. Nice video by the way, thank you.

[@elianamckee]

Wow! Thank you!❤

[@EliteEmpressEnergy]

❤I will try Tio2 and I luv hydrostone

[@aquilgoodman]

Great video. Any preferred place to buy hydro stone in the states

[@tennyo9458]

I live in washington state and was able to get 50lb hydrostone from Euclids for $50 including tax and shipping! I ordered a 10lb bag for $38 off of amazon to test it out after watchjng all your vids and now that I am a little more comfortable with the material, I went ahead and found the cheaper bag. Still in need of a good sealant though. I just went with clarks cement wax, but saw your video after about how it may not work for hydrostone. Crossing my fingers two to three coats can work tho! Thank you for your videos!!!

[@upvibecandle]

Please please please let me know how it performs.

[@dymone4894]

I'm in Oregon and can't find any Hydrostone in stock near me. The only place I can find it is on Amazon and it's well overpriced. Guess I'll just keep my eyes open for when it is available again but I refuse to pay Amazon's inflated prices.

[@cupofintention]

Thank you Jai! You are an incredible teacher! I live in Canada and can not get earth safe finishes for my hydrostone containers. I need to seal them asap. Can I go with any other safe sealers? I am ok sealing them several times if need be. Much thanks! Keep up the great content.

[@upvibecandle]

Nancy from ESF ships worldwide. It’s the best sealer for hydrostone if you are making candles. Link is in the description for hydro dip.

[@melbuzzzby]

Hydrostone and Cement All BOTH contain respirable crystalline silica according to their SDS (safety data sheets), which is carcinogenic and causes silicosis. Definitely agree with you that you must wear a respirator when using both, but I wanted to clarify that Hydrostone isn’t a lower personal safety risk. Awesome video though. I appreciate that you looked at all aspects of Hydrostone and I look forward to trying it myself.

[@upvibecandle]

While Hydrostone's main components don't normally consist of silica sand, there is a potential for trace amounts of silica to exist. This can occur due to impurities found in the raw materials or any additional substances employed during its manufacturing process. Nevertheless, it's crucial to highlight that Hydrostone remains a safer alternative. Your comment is appreciated though.

[@MisterWhatWhat]

Made my first vessel with Hydrostone last night & demolded it this morning. It looks so good! I absolutely love how it's easier to get lumps and clumps out when mixing vs using Cement All and I did not need Flow Control. I'm going to stick with Cement All for now as no one in my state sells Hydro-Stone and the shipping costs is over $100 for a 50lb bag.

[@upvibecandle]

That is awesome. Where did you buy Hydrostone and what state are you in?

[@MisterWhatWhat]

@@upvibecandle OMG so I sent this video to a friend who was asking me about the difference between the two and noticed I never responded. I ordered it from some company in Minnesota at the time. Now I get some from Artistic Industries out of Utah. I'm in Dallas.

[@upvibecandle]

@@MisterWhatWhat That’s ok. Thanks for taking the time to reply.

[@Duckiesmusings]

Just found you and I'm interested in this craft. What's your thoughts on ecopours jesmonite, boowanite or resincrete? I've seen crafters using these products for vessels

[@DuchessArtisanCreations]

😂😂I love your video.

[@jya811]

Just wondering where you purchase hydrostone online? also is it the same as hydrocal?

[@meditationrelaxationcafe4567]

Great video, very informative, then again, you usually are which is always helpful. Background music a little loud in this video, Imo.

[@upvibecandle]

Well you are meditation and relaxation so I am not sure your opinion completely counts.... LOL!!! All jokes aside I will make note of it for the next go around. Thanks for the comment.

[@meditationrelaxationcafe4567]

@@upvibecandle Good one…should have seen that one coming.🤣Just seemed like you and the music were competing at times. Thanks for the reply, gonna go meditate and relax now.🤣

[@mightycatcreations1968]

Great tutorial, I jus bought some gypsum hydrostone cement and was wondering do you coat the stone on the inside or leave it as is to pour in the wax?

[@upvibecandle]

Check the sealing section in that video for answers to that question.

[@onyaeonyae7]

Watched this again and took some notes - thank you for taking the time. I def want to try it out for vessels only - for making them faster. I might want to try acrylic paint since I heard pigment doesn't show as well? (Correct me if I'm wrong). And near the end of your video, would you do more of both items mixed?

[@upvibecandle]

Honestly pigments are where it's at for Hydrostone. I am doing a video now that has 5 vessels with CA and 5 with Hy and the results are stunning. However, as an artist, beauty is in the eye of the creator.

[@onyaeonyae7]

I can't wait to see! I really want to treat myself and just practice and see if my designs will pop even more. @@upvibecandle

[@keesstaps4606]

How to make hydrostone off white cement to plaster mix

[@jaybryant3224]

Welp…. Let me go ahead and purchase this course!

[@upvibecandle]

Excellent. Truly looking forward to having you a part of the community.

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@@upvibecandle thank you, I just bought the course

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[@nutzablaze3339]

pottery supply , or dental supply for hydrostone

[@karenMQSoapery]

I do love my hydrostone my vessels come out so beautiful ❤ it depends on my mold how thick the bottom is I seal some 2 times and some 3 times I do use both cement all and hydrostone tho depending on what mold and design I want

[@upvibecandle]

My next goal is to see if I can have it distributed to a location super close to home.

[@karenMQSoapery]

I know I can’t find it close to me at all I’ve been using it for over a year now I have to order 50 lbs that’s cheapest way lol

[@upvibecandle]

I found a place closer to home but it's still a drive and won't make sense if I just buy 1 bag. I would need to buy several to make it make sense. Sometimes ordering it is the best option.@@karenMQSoapery

[@sheepiebright6260]

My husband called USG directly and they said there's a 20-week lead time waiting on materials... So even those that do have it might be running out soon. 😐

[@upvibecandle]

That stinks. Thanks for sharing that info. @@sheepiebright6260

[@JackyLove6969]

hello,live in canada and cant find the sealer i wanted to use,quick dip not deliver here,so when the pot is done,what are you suggest me to buy as sealer,and is it all i need to apply after the pot is dry,thanks.

[@upvibecandle]

Yes they deliver to Canada. Contact Nancy at ESF. There is something up with her computer. Let me know how it goes. bit.ly/3Q2YGvn

[@keymarieharlii]

What I also found interesting is the weight that you needed for each jar. Hydrostone was lighter, so I’m assuming that you used less (since it’s by the pound) of the Hydrostone to fill the mold? Another win for Hydrostone?

[@upvibecandle]

I believe hydrostone is also less dense than CA. It’s very thin whereas CA is noticeable thicker.

[@vitavi2800]

What kind of pigments are you using? And where you buying it?

[@upvibecandle]

Links to the pigments in the description.

[@crazypsychnurse9493]

I’m brand new to candle making and I have not tried the cement vessels yet. I love them but is the shipping cost not astronomical?

[@upvibecandle]

To be frank, shipping costs can be a bit on the higher side, regardless of what you're sending. But here's a little secret: I've factored shipping expenses into my product prices, so I don't dwell on them too much. If you're just starting out, you might want to take a look at my online course, "The Winning Formula." It's specifically crafted to help you save time, money, and avoid unnecessary stress. Plus you get to join my private community in case you need any of my help. Whenever you have a moment, check out the video below, and if you decide to join, we'd be absolutely thrilled to welcome you aboard! kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3zInqmDeZJ2aJYsi=O6-qht8A3aupxyER

[@Loycegbrown]

Hello Jai, I am located in the west of Houston. I've noticed efflorescence (calcium carbonate) on my hydrostone vessels. I demold my jars with gloves, as well. I've tried using the earth pigments and it's still an issue. Do you have any suggestions? I didn't have this situation when I was using Hydrocal.

[@upvibecandle]

Lower your water content and make sure there isn’t too much humidity.

[@Loycegbrown]

@@upvibecandle thank you so much, Jai! I will lower the water content.

[@vitavi2800]

Where did you got the formula for hydrostone? And what is it?

[@upvibecandle]

I created it.

[@Stormy510]

I tried hydro just didn’t like how after demolding it was so flimsy and I used a lot of hydro. The cement haven’t. Used yet but the hydro is super expensive. And flimsy

[@user-mo5sf1dw3m]

How much curing time do I have to wait to seal my vessel?

[@upvibecandle]

The answer is in the video. Please watch it.

[@user-mo5sf1dw3m]

@@upvibecandle I must have missed it,,,will watch again. I really enjoyed watching your videos. Thanks to Calafia Candle who gave you a Shout Out!

[@upvibecandle]

@@user-mo5sf1dw3m Bree is the best. There is so much information you might have missed it. Basically you are going to weigh your vessel daily. When it stops losing weight you can seal it.

[@MakeupMobster]

Ok I’m pretty sure we live in the same state. So please tell me where you’re getting the hydro stone! Maybe it’s within a reasonable driving distance for me as well!

[@MakeupMobster]

Ok nevermind. Just did a search on their website. Seems there is quite a few places to buy. Odd because they have Home Depot and lowers listed there.

[@upvibecandle]

Yes...If you get stuck send me an email which is on my website and I will gladly help you out. @@MakeupMobster

[@dchall8]

Hydrostone sounds an awwwwwwful lot like plaster. Maybe plaster with some additives for strength.

[@upvibecandle]

It is plaster.

[@barzucci]

Hydrostone is alpha gypsum. it is different than regular plaster. Regular plaster is beta gypsum.

[@jamesdim]

Please stop playing this background music. It's hard to comfortably watch your otherwise amazing content.

[@upvibecandle]

HELL NO! If you don’t want to hear it you can go somewhere else. Out of all the things you could have said you chose to be negative. Continue and I will block you from the channel immediately.

[@ColFryChicken]

hello mate,i live in canada,and earth safe hydro dip dont deliver here,i make hydrostone jar,what are you suggest me to go with?i wish something glossy,thanks

[@upvibecandle]

Yes she deliverers to Canada.

[@ColFryChicken]

@@upvibecandle well maybe not anymore as when i go to her site,i have no option to canada,i send her 2 email and zero answer hehe,bit lost bout this...

[@upvibecandle]

@@ColFryChicken Send me a direct email. I will help you. My email address is on my website. The link is in the description.

[@ColFryChicken]

@@upvibecandle ok cool thanks so much,but i think i just got nancy now on direct chat.they work on something for me,wish it work,awsome video btw and thanks so much for answering me :p,i do jar with hydrostone and have hard time find damn good clear :p,also watch the video you hold boiled jar,please stop do this,i was in pain for you hehehehehehhee :p,awsome vids