CEO To Address Star Trek Online Community On Ten Forward Live

[@dgrm7559]

Thomas was a player also before he was employee at Cryptic. Very sad to see him go.

[@chadwickmccarty4944]

I'm uncertain Cryptic will still exist by the end of the year. Although I appreciate the years Cryptic has curated STO, some wins & losses, I do think DECA taking over could still result an overall positive long term. A bow of the head to this Frazier, not even knowing what he'll say, for taking on a probable hostile crowd. Hopefully Frazier will deliver some direct candid answers along with whatever requisite company speak. If DECA improves the lag & just maintains the current status quo mostly for a few more years I'd be content.

[@dgrm7559]

Face it STO is what? A 14 yuear old game that is nowhere near the top 20 games population-wise. On the downside STO costs them money to keep the game running as it currently is. On the upside STO may be breaking even which to a company like DECA is a loss. Either scenario does not go well for the game in general.

[@shadow7037932]

​@@dgrm7559STO would never have been a top 20 MMO ever. It doesn't have the same appeal as something like ESO/GW2/WoW.

[@shauntempley9757]

It does. Any player in those games are sci fi nerds. Star Trek is a huge name in that space. It may be dying on PC, but on XBox, the game is thriving. Every time I log in and fly around the map, there are plenty of players in the game. Earth Spacedock is always packed with ships, and it is often the case that lags in the game are caused by every Battlezone, of which there are 4 in space are always in the last stage of their fights, where the toughest stages are being completed. Where they are flighting armadas in all of them.@@shadow7037932

[@adalwolf8328]

Honestly I'm uncertain that STO will exist in like 3 years. I would definitely not spend any money on this game anymore.

[@yumkio_owens]

@@dgrm7559 there are quite a few people still playing it arguably rivals even elite dangerous and as you said its 14 years old lmfao i do think the main studio may die off but being that another is taking it over i find it hard to think that the game would be gone

[@ogroachGames]

Thanks for taking the time to make this vid dude appreciate it

[@ajtame]

I really hope they engage with us, especially around the bugs and server performance

[@nunya3163]

That will take getting Kael out of the way, and stop filtering the feedback.

[@gausssto570]

Great point about keeping it civil during the upcoming livestream.

[@afterlame]

That means you, too, Gauss :D

[@admiralpegasuscc]

As a player and small time Content Creator for Star Trek Fleet Command, I can understand your issue of communication. We are constantly pressing scopley for better Comms. But I will be joining the STO community as soon as I get a PC and playing the game for the first time.

[@stephenkelly8312]

Part of me is cautiously optimistic. The other part of me thinks it’s too little too late. But still, any communication is better than the radio silence that we’ve gotten for so long.

[@UkrainianPaulie]

After a decade playing, hopefully they stay the course. But we all have had our favorite games die a slow death. This would hurt due to all the whale level cash spent and all the work perfecting ships/loadouts. 50-50 odds atm. Thanks Stu!

[@gimilkhad8169]

Figures I'd finally decide to give this game a chance, right as the game's continuing existence gets called into question. I've been vaguely aware of STO for over a decade but never could justify spending time in yet another MMO. Then about 3-4 days ago the youtube algorithm fed me a couple STO videos and I finally gave in and downloaded it. The space stuff looks and feels great considering the game's age; the ground stuff feels and looks a bit clunky. But the game has been fun. I like that the missions haven't felt cookie cutter (fly here and kill 10 ships, like nearly every WoW quest). I really feel like I'm in the Star Trek universe. They take full advantage of the IP rights, everything looks and sound just like it does in the shows/movies, including the characters and their voices being from the actual cast. I love that some of the ships from STO made it into Picard (I learned that a couple days ago). So yeah, if the game suddenly dies I'm going to be mad at myself for waiting for so long, and for choosing to get into it too late to see all the missions

[@dexter1450]

I am a returning player and i really hope that STO still has many years to go.

[@yumkio_owens]

As a brand new player whos been loving it me too me too

[@phantom-ow4uf]

Moral of the story: Fix your fucking servers or you don't get any more money from the players.

[@thomasloyal4525]

The game died mostly thanks to failures of discovery and Picard

[@BeyondDaX]

@@thomasloyal4525 Eventually, they have to go to those. There isn't too much of the TOS, TNG, DS9, Voy, Enterprise content remaning unless they somehow expand it or heaven forbid reach even further into the Kelvin universe

[@akiro9635]

add more content first or you lose players 65 is really old now

[@shauntempley9757]

There is nothing stopping them from pivoting to the books, when we have the Aventine and it is captained by Dax. Those as a parallel universe would be really cool, once the Borg Kingdom is dealt with. Those books would give them years of content and story, and species and ships to do.@@BeyondDaX

[@matth6014]

​@@akiro9635add more content lol? Game cant handle the content now...

[@mulderatoful]

I miss the Daniel Stahl days when we were all one community testing on tribble and trying to make the game work., playing with devs causing chaos at ESD late at night, Thomas just being one of us making suggestions in the forums, the constant feed of what was in development and what we would like to see. Once he left and perfect world took over that all died. The disconnect between the players and cryptic has existed ever since and no one ever asked the player base what we would like to see again.

[@DaSuDanesi]

I remember those days. I also remember those days ended due to, in no small part, the main methods of player-to-dev interaction growing increasingly hostile and toxic towards devs. Every time a dev would post something, it would get several-to-dozens of replies, often unrelated to the post or the particular dev's area of expertise, about bugs, glitches, content pacing, etc. I do miss the days the devs were part of the community, but it's no mystery why it stopped, and it had very little to do with the Perfect World takeover.

[@agentofjazz6624]

I stopped playing a long time ago… I come on every other month, but it needs a new overhaul and there is so many other games that have changed there whole format …. It’s time to jump into the next level and get people back into the game… I’ll be one of your biggest supporters then!!! Btw I started playing in 2012 on PC..! Old head here!

[@HubStationCostumes]

I super appreciate you doing this video man! And cheerse to the CEO for coming and talking to everyone, I hope it's productive.

[@brandondrew6399]

What if they blow are minds with story missions,new patrols, events,ships an so on.

[@Baker11ification]

After listening to CEOs in my own company, I can only imagine he’s going to speak somewhat real about the game but on our end we won’t see any real changes for months, changes that will probably just break something else in the game and in the long run, we will see nothing substantial. He just doesn’t want to loose our money, and this will be damage control.

[@marcusbarnard]

I love playing Sto one of the best Star Trek games out there

[@notwhatitwasbefore]

Close enough the only Star Trek game out there. I can only think of mods and the 'official' mod for stellaris or the VR only one. So in a field of ~1 game yes its the best and also the worst

[@adalwolf8328]

Even if you don't care about endgame grind and all that, I think STO is worth playing just for the story missions. Some are as good as a TV episode.

[@yumkio_owens]

​@@notwhatitwasbeforebros angy

[@Volticus]

Funny to see how they sell Lifetime Subscription at this period of time without any comments about STO future 😅

[@jerekcolt9232]

Looks to me as if they in panic mode. They know that soon no one will buy this😂

[@SeeTheWholeTruth]

China's collapsed economy has been shifting games all around the world. Nothing I didnt expect.

[@SGz_Eliminated]

The CEO pretty much summed it up, American game devs get paid way more than devs from other countries because the cost of living is so high over there. It's not uncommon for American devs to be breaking $100k but an equivalent skilled dev from the UK can easily be found for under £50k. What this means is DECA isn't interested in matching Cryptics currents wages and rightfully so their current staff isn't interested in having their pay halved. Hence they're all going to be replaced overtime. Call my cynical but I see this as a good thing, with the exception of Thomas whose noticeably done a lot of good for the game, I feel like a lot of the work and effort at Cryptic stalled out years ago

[@shadow7037932]

You're significantly underestimating the loss of institutional knowledge that is going to be lost. Don't expect any revamps to old things like Fleets/Reps because no one will know how to do it going forward.

[@SGz_Eliminated]

​@@shadow7037932 The current staff already don't understand STO's spahgetti code because the original people that did it all left ages ago so there's barely any institutional knowledge to lose. It's not like Cryptic were going to revamp any of the old stuff either. What the current staff do know should be knowledge transferred to the DECA replacements for the most part.

[@darthwingnut464]

You know the discussion about to happen is probably mostly because it sounds like Gearbox is being spun off by the end of March, right?

[@MCStu]

Yep, that's why they move STO under DECA Games

[@Joker058]

I hope the fix the lag soon because it has been getting really bad.

[@michaeltiberius4166]

Thanks for the video. Due to lag (partially due to my older pc), I have spec'd purely into survivability during spikes.

[@DanaDark]

I am looking forward to the changes. I have not been impressed with the devs for a long time and have not liked the direction gameplay has gone either. It took something like five years to fix the alpha quadrant auto-nav bug, other bugs remain, many textures for purchased products left in the dust... I could go on and on. I think new eyes and a new team is direly needed.

[@jeffcarroll3831]

I think we're all hopeful sto continues and some confirmation from the CEO would go a long way depending on what is said and not said. But until some clarity is provided, everything is on pause, and understandably so .

[@brentkeller3826]

I've had ground enemies rubberband into me, worst offenders were the bomb borg during the both worlds progression. Was pretty funny to AOE repel two borg, then four bomb borg just fly across the screen into me.

[@stue2298]

I think this is the right direction to go, CEO addressing concerns of their customers will be a good thing, as long as it is honest and he listens to constructive critisim.

[@ComradeNexus]

The communication is a step in the right direction, but you're right about needing some info from Cryptic on where the game's going (at 11:00 ). Just knowing that the team has a game plan / roadmap, and seeing it unfold (hopefully without issue), will give people more confidence in the game.

[@iandresari726]

Sad to see Tom go. Hopefully they fix the lag. STO is my fav game and is almost unplayable.

[@sillyrabbit734]

I think the CEO hopping on and addressing things with the players is good and SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE SOONER. That said, the server situation is a real biggie, the game's nearly unplayable at times - a "We're working on it" and a pat on the head, won't cut it - we've put up with a lot recently, including a certain degree of snark in response to some of our concerns.

[@starwolven]

Uh oh! DECA Games, huh? Never heard of them! I hope they are competent. There is a nasty map switching bug that is game breaking right now. Queuing for a TFO. HA! "Map Transfer Error!"

[@thejarredhog3936]

Try logging out then back in really fast. It works for me.

[@IPM71]

When this happens, open your character sheet, I think it's U by default and this should fix that error while it's happening.

[@Trygvar13]

I looked them up and the other games they have are nowhere near the same quality as STO.

[@Sky_Taor]

That's quite old bug for me. Happens after changing ship in galaxy map. How to fix/evade - load on any map after ship change. Working in prevention and even if you are getting that error message after tfo started.

[@Mr_Waffle.]

I was unsure at first but I was really impressed that he gave thoughtful answers to a lot of people in that reddit thread. Either he genuinely cares or he is super bored at work waiting for it to be shut down I guess lol. Hopefully they can work out things for the best with deca and have good news in a few weeks time. I'll just keep having fun in the meantime, this Pahvo set isn't going to play itself

[@selorkiith4461]

Were they really thoughtful? A lot of it was little more than PR Speak... especially to those questioning about most people leaving...

[@timothyhiggins8934]

Good video. I am glad about the communication. I feel the usual lack of communication is a big part of people leaving the game. If anyone reading this plays stellaris, you may get what i mean, cause those devs are pretty active in their community. If sto had that kind of love then this would be the best game around

[@MLAGGIONE]

As somebody who plays this game for 12 years ever since it went f2p, I just hope it will continue to live for a long time as a fan of the game and franchise. Especially since I started to make a STO related ''tv show'' in true original Star Trek fashion.

[@Primal-Rage]

the tamaran trait and console are also having an effect.. with either of those items equipped it keep distress calls in constant recharge (Hur'Q and delta I'm certain of) (console)

[@nixboox]

"Top priority"? I doubt it. You know they did an update that deleted the Iconian glyphs so now the iconian missions that use them are incompletable. Older ships that I got completing missions are now deleted from my account and their service department has no idea how to undelete them for me. Its like the game has lost any cohesive vision and now every new season is some spitball session around the big conference table.

[@SuperBuddy19]

I hope this is good and to hear good news but I am nervous. I haven’t had much issues on the ps4 just the camera going far out.

[@Paleorunner2]

As long as the game stays open I'll be happy. Also your test was very scientific. You had multiple control groups and tested your hypothesis.

[@BlackTownie999]

Glad both my wife and mines lifetime subs have been paid back in zen stipend for a long while now… When sto goes, I’ll find something else to take up my time…

[@dant1386]

Haven't had many issues on console. Love the game.

[@short72hp1]

thanks for keeping updated💯

[@Sam-gv5ms]

Between dealing with and surpassing the latency and just being able to login "fully" perhaps deserves an accolade all of its own! Have played since launch and will continue to push through the adversity associated with its challenges. There's many good things to be said about the game in general and the story path development which I believe has kept me committed. I believe it's no secret where priorities towards STO should focus and unfortunately, if whoever (Cryptic, DECA, etc.) continue to cast shadow with expectations that do not focus on the integrity of the server platforms themselves then an eventual fall may be inevitable. STO has been and I hope continues to be a unique enhancing entertaining platform for the entire Star Trek community throughout several generations. Fire may truly be the essence in which we burn but this game has definitely served as the thread which binds us. God Bless all of you who are still committed to the journey and I hope to continue to see you amongst the stars. -Dbl'Tap

[@Rheinguard]

STO needs a private server without the lootbox and cash shop dilithium bs.

[@derlalakanal9747]

Im totally in

[@BeyondDaX]

Good luck getting that to happen, unless you dedicate literal years to working that out lawl

[@derlalakanal9747]

Often Modder can create something in one month that Dev arent able to Do in years. Passion is such a great motivator 😇💪

[@BeyondDaX]

@@derlalakanal9747 One month is impossible, even with games like Eternal Crusade or some other games take like three months to a year at best to find the source code. I mean come on.

[@gimilkhad8169]

@@derlalakanal9747 sounds like you just volunteered

[@Robotrik1]

I looked over Phil Frazier's Reddit posts, and he said that they scrapped the idea of a "DECA roadmap" , and pivoted to training DECA staff on their engine (makes sense, as that will give them a more realistic evaluation for a time table) . Two questions here : Is Cryptic loosing exclusivity to it's "proprietary engine " , or are they renting it out to DECA ? Is Cryptic loosing the Star Trek license -- or rather , is the license being taken / absorbed into DECA ? Cryptic being the licensee , but DECA looking to be doing all the future work seems ... overly complicated, especially for a failing gaming company like Cryptic . He also defended Kael and Thomas . They both need it, despite what you may think . :) He also doesn't know how many people work on STO . Always a great sign . He had to check, and was also dubious if that data was ever provided (it has been, several times, both before and after the game launched) . Looking forward to a "Calm Down ! Nothing to see here !!" 'Naked Gun' style appearance from this Cryptic higher up ... (just to note, last time it was a year ago -- Jarrod Fisher -- Executive Producer , Jan 25 2023) . They should put this in the game schedule ... -- STO's yearly "... You Can't Handle The Truth !!" segment . 😂

[@jamie514]

I feel like at the very least, the new abilities that are leading to the lag in TFO's should be pulled from the game entirely. The fact they can harm the player experience for players of the same TFO outside the specific unique map instance that the ability is used in, is more than enough justification.

[@CrimsonEnvec]

Deca really should of tried to keep Thomas.

[@MCStu]

Agreed

[@gerogyzurkov2259]

Agreed too.

[@oopsydaisy4637]

I'd just like to know what's what. Until then I can't justify spending on it

[@Reoh0z]

The lack of clarity does have me reluctant to spend at this time.

[@sr3473]

Deca only keeps old mobile games alive. I don't think they can effectively run a MMORPG like STO.

[@NeoMorphUK]

I was worried that STO was going away in the next couple of years but from the CEO STO is still going be a game that will be updated regularly. The other two games that will continue this way is Champions Online and Neverwinter Online.

[@MrLittleme900]

With the lag i have turn my janeway from the magic build to a basic fire at well build

[@aggressivelyrelaxing155]

Hey, all I'm saying is let's be really nice to Phil.

[@averyvaliant]

Does anyone know WHY the devs are leaving? I mean one guy has been working on STO for what was it, 21 years? Seeing that kind of vet leave a game like that doesn't bode well in my opinion.

[@andyhull9182]

Maybe he finally realized that for the past 15 years his game is just a vehicle for monetisation and isn't evolving anywhere and he now wants to work on a real videogame?

[@jamie514]

Because the game studio (Cryptic) was sold due to a financial problem by its last owners (Embracer) and is being taken over by one (DECA) located in a different country where devs are paid about half as much as the american-based devs from Cryptic.

[@averyvaliant]

@@jamie514 Thank you, yea that's a shame, I wonder if they were told they'd face a pay cut, or contract renegotiation. Either that or just given notice.

[@jamie514]

@@averyvaliantit really is a huge shame. Losing Thomas and Jonathan are massive blows. Both have done so much.

[@stofsk]

I haven't really noticed any severe lag issues tbh, but I lately I've been playing solo patrols and log in, do some character maintenance stuff, personal endeavours, admiralty, that sort of thing, and log out. For event purposes I've only been doing the Pahvo ground tfo where I guess the lag issues are not pronounced because of the bridge officer ability issues you mention. I'm glad to see tho that Cryptic's management are going to address community concerns. While you are correct that the buck stops with the CEO that's only on Cryptic's end. Much of what has occurred has been due to Embracer Group's actions and their bad deal that fell through, their acquisitions of multiple gaming studios with money that they didn't have etc. I know you're aware of this MC Stu I'm just reiterating this for people's benefits. I actually think a lot of anger is justified here, we're losing talented developers and veteran developers who have decade plus change worth of experience because of a greedy publisher that spent money it didn't have to make more money that it turns out they won't be making either, and to salvage themselves a lot of costs have to be cut and this has lead to job losses and entire studios being closed. The playerbase and community have a right to be anxious and nervous over the game's future but I think we also have a right to be angry and channel that energy towards getting answers and towards making sure the current dev team are well supported and looked after. It sounds like DECA are keen to support STO at the current level of development we've had for a few years now and from reading the comments from Frazier on reddit it also sounds like Cryptic will be folded up or merged with DECA at some point and they will take over full development of current Cryptic games, STO included. I hope that means current employees are looked after. But because DECA is situated in Germany somethings like time zones and compensation packages will be different so that's likely a good chunk of the reason why some devs have already left and or are looking for better prospects locally. Again a lot of this is unfortunate that it has come to this. Thanks for taking the time and energy to make this video as well.

[@tiezine9583]

Gotta ask, what mods are you using to get THAT LOOK? That World Razer is reach out n touch it REAL!

[@MCStu]

I use some filters to get the look of the ship the way I wanted it. And then in the photo editing software I use, which is a free software called paint.net what I did is cut off a couple pieces of the letters where they were covering the ship to make it look like they were underneath the ship and that’s why it looks like it’s popping out.

[@stonewbie5981]

Just curious.. does anyone know if Cryptic leases the servers that run the game from some other 3rd party company, like Rackspace or something?

[@MCStu]

I believe AWS

[@EliotJohnson]

Cryptic has not said a lot about what is going on with the game and the future. They need to let their customer/ community know what is going on. The community is suffering because of the merger and the lack of communication.

[@jerekcolt9232]

They will say something eventually. But seems like they don't care anymore. Their careers in STO segment is finished, so why bother

[@gerogyzurkov2259]

Having it only on reddit is not great. They haven't said anything on their YT page is not great either non their Twitter. An important announcement like this should be posted on all their social media.

[@nataschajordan6053]

i first thought it was omega event lag - but its gone now and lagspikes persist, there are some abilities cause heavy spikes. summon support squadron (pilot) and supposedly the new abilities from the lockbox

[@Mangler1701]

I hope it's good

[@nonamegiven202]

Yeah I'm not too as worry about STO not staying around as much as STO losing it's "Trekkie core". Like they are losing a lot of people who lived and breathe Trek for decades. but time will tell, hopefully they're enough in the pipeline for them to have a grace period for a year or two.

[@DeadFilmsINC]

I was doing Random Elite tfo's the other day & I had loads of lag aka rubber banding & wasn't able to do the tfo's as good as I should. I'm very not happy!

[@Grazyfarmer]

All the great dogs moving on, guys like Borticus he was STO, also All Rivera he bleeds STO. seeing them leave that is making me nerves. Perfectworld was good as it was so I hope this wasn't a mistake...

[@TT09B5]

I hope it isn't all PR speak.

[@stormycatmink]

I think one of the things I've noticed is the bugs lingering on.. I have a feeling the people who knew the code are either way under-manned to get bugs under control, or the people who could are gone. Likewise with the server issues.. I have a feeling they lost their key technical people. And of course Maronne leaving is kinda bad, since he brought some of the best ship concepts in. Previous ship leads weren't great.. some pretty terrible ship designs before. While they can recover the technical talent (and hopefully find people who can fix some of the just silly bugs that've been there since beta), but the ship concept lead is very, very hard to replace. You can find someone, but the odds that they'll produce good ships is real low.

[@waldoonline]

I don't have a lot of expectations with a CEO on Ten Forward. Players are wanting things like a yearlong road map and answers on specific things in game and I don't think he is going to be able to give those to us.

[@roguerifter9724]

It will be interesting to see what comes. Maybe we can get away from the seemingly random ship types. I can't be the only person who wonders what the hell a Science Spearhead is for example and why they didn't just name it something like a Science Cruiser or Science Battleship as an example. Some of the types felt like they just drew a word out of a hat and put it on the back of the class name.

[@shauntempley9757]

You can blame Discovery for not giving a proper class name to the ship. It is clearly a placeholder until that is done.

[@sabrewolf4129]

That fucking ships saucer looks like a 1978 BSG Cylon Raider

[@jerekcolt9232]

I don’t hold my breath here. STO is living its last years. I can’t see how Cryptic who lost most of its competent staff, lost any creative spark and barely holds this engine together can teach this Deca Games to maintain the game properly from technical and lore perspectives, let alone add something new and exciting for players. This mobile developer will do the only thing it know - more items and services you can buy for real money. So, more people will get tired of the game and just leave. I really wish I’m wrong here, but with such data I can’t imagine a positive scenario.

[@UFO721]

There so many things they can do that doesn’t require much work that can give them money like add t5 ships to the lock box or even the cstore

[@thedustdevil303]

I'm on console and still can't make training manuals from inventory on my main but found a work-around by make them from your bank by putting all training skills there, weerd😎✌

[@Mac_1701]

I'm reluctant, as will most players be, to invest any more money in this game. With the issues with lag, the rather disappointing 14th Anniversary Bundle, and real lack of any kind of communication from Cryptic, it is hard to feel confident that things will continue. Now, that being said, if Phill Frazier goes on Ten Forward as gives a clear path for STO that spans years, then fantastic. If he acknowledges the problems in the game, rather than constantly refer us to the report a bug forum, then that would be nice. If he can provide timescales for issues to be resolved, then all the better. I'm always up for free stuff, and it would be nice if Cryptic threw the players a small token to thank us for our patience. Hopefully it is positive when the Ten Forward stream happens and it's not a lot of empty promises to try and encourage sales.

[@Xpektahdeth]

While I appreciate the guy trying to come on and "reassure" the community,his words and efforts won't mean spit if (probably WHEN) HE gets canned. Bottom line, I'm not buying ANYTHING else expensive in the game until I actually SEE improvement. Talk is cheap.

[@jerekcolt9232]

My point exactly. Actions speaks louder than words.

[@markwilson185]

many years ago there was a player in another game Never Winter! He was a hacker he was very mad at perfect for changes to then game He Attacked the network with DDOS attack back then he did it caused both games to lag out like this new bug ! Maybe the new code for them powers is hitting then game they same away .

[@ВасилийЩербаков-г3щ]

Who eslse communicates with the developers, or can give them a message: finally tell them that's it's high time to make an ption to sell all (non-protected) items at once! Instead of clicking 2 times on each item separately!

[@splinteredmind4949]

I've had to give up on STO. I just can't justify giving them any more time and money with the lag and the server issues. Especially when I get a Senior GM telling me, and I quote : "On our side, the developers have not made us aware of any general network or server issues that are ongoing. Often times these issues are temporary and outside of our control."" I tried to do what they're publicly asking for. Traceroutes, pathpings etc. Only to be told to go away.

[@splinteredmind4949]

Not going to name and shame the GM, but Stu, if you want a copy of the mail then it's yours. I am fuming over this.

[@yumkio_owens]

Press x to doubt

[@stormycatmink]

I think the CEO's comment that 'game studios see people come and go all the time' is a bit disingenuous. Clearly this is highly exceptional for STO. It makes me feel we might not get a straight answer for the other topics. They've not had this level of turnover.. well, ever, that I've been aware of. Sure, there's a lot of people digging for it now, but still, there's a lot of top people leaving. Would have felt a lot better if he'd just said, 'due to circumstances beyond our control, some people are leaving'. Even that, as vague as it is, is a lot more honest. I also get a feeling from the job postings that people are leaving because they know they have to leave. They may not be getting fired, but they either know it's coming, or they know they won't be able to keep working (pay cuts, reorg, etc). So to say they're 'choosing' to leave doesn't sound honest, either. I don't know. I'll hear what he has to say with an open mind, but so far it's not passing the sniff test.

[@geminijustgemini7784]

All the exotic builds must be causing all the lag. lol

[@notwhatitwasbefore]

Just looked up Deca games. Interesting list of nothing games. The end of STO this is like the retirement home for games that are over

[@jerekcolt9232]

My thoughts exactly 💯

[@DeadFilmsINC]

Yeah if stuff doesn't get fixed I will only do my daily stuff & not really really play STO.

[@Dracounguis]

IMO the game has been in essentially maintenance mode for years. If you ignore putting out new ships, they've done very little. A couple new TFOs & missions every year. And just a rotation of the same old events year after year to keep DAU/MAUs up. Overall I see it as a good thing that old people are leaving and hopefully new blood coming in that actually want to get the game out of the doldrums. Or maybe the new bosses will just want to ride this game to its inevitable death while squeezing as much profit out of it as possible. At this point I'm fine with either way. Either make the game be exciting again or let it die. Hell... Maybe Deca will trash the whole thing and make a Sto2. 😆

[@randalldederick]

STO2 would be DAO. Nobody spending money on STO would play unless everything they already purchased transferred over. I wouldn't. Also, unless it reused the assets from STO, you'd lose the voice overs by Spock, Odo, Rom, and others.

[@jerekcolt9232]

STO 2 - new exiting experience from DECA games, world renowned mobile games studio. Widely known from such games as ... well... uuh... Walking dead something? Yeah, that would be some game, right? 😂

[@IrisCorven]

I feel like there's no real path forward here. On one end of things, you have the stability issues and the game itself just being pretty stagnant the past couple years with what can/can't be added or changed in the engine due to it's age without monstrously bad technical issues. On the other hand, if the game ever shuts down, we'll never see another MMO like it - the industry has moved away from anything that isn't live service TPS/FPS garbage, sans the rare stuff that stood the test of time like FFXIV, WoW, etc. I just have the sinking feeling this next year might be the end of the line, for the game. We've reached the plateau of what can be done with the game/engine from a technical standpoint - to the point of them admittedly having to kitbash and jury rig things to work quite a few times over the past couple years - and now we're most likely losing quite a few of the folks who have experience maintaining that engine, and I don't see DECA sinking the time/resources into trying.

[@jerekcolt9232]

I'm totally agree with you 💯 It's like they had no resources, no energy and no desire to maintain it as it was before 2019. This game is dying, and it is very sad for those who loved this game all these years.

[@devilhell69]

I though my internet was fcking around guess it was a bug that lag only on space not on ground And the game punish you afk penalty

[@kevinmurphy65]

Seven hours ago? Stu, don't you sleep? Anyways, very interested to see what happens going forward.

[@MCStu]

It doesn’t feel like it sometimes. Lol.

[@hogfry]

Deca is largely a mobile games publisher arent they? I feel like the Z store is going to be the only thing thats going to change... and for the worst.

[@jerekcolt9232]

Totally agree 👍🏻

[@davelee7296]

They going to end STO.

[@Boomhauer11x]

It is what it is man. If they do then they lost the revenue stream from us the players. In all honesty they have to assess the entire situation and plan the best path forward because of the server issues and other problems within the game itself.

[@IrisCorven]

I mean... Maybe it's time? The engine is held together with duct tape and paper clips, at this point. The past two years, I've watched as the game has slowly started to fall apart at the seams, performance-wise. And with less and less urgency to fix long-standing bugs. And that's more so than it has over the past few years. I don't think a lot of people realize how old the engine is, and how hard it is to bring in new people who can dig into it and optimize/fix things. More so when it's pushed to it's absolute limit, in terms of what can be added to the code without huge stability issues. Whatever happens, I had a good time with it over the years, ever since I first logged in with my TOS Connie. I've found myself losing enthusiasm slowly over the past few years, and through periods of time where new story additions were few and far between. But that never stopped me from dropping back in for a month at a time here and there to enjoy the universe that had been built up, re-visit familiar spots, replay missions I had fond memories of, etc. Regardless of what happens, I hope someone on the dev team has the good sense to back up the source for the servers, so the game itself can be archived for all time. As it stands, there's currently a copy of a pre-Legacy of Romulus server source floating around out there, and with the right client you can log into and explore the game as it was then, complete with the sector space map and ESD. It's like a wonderous museum of a time long gone, back when the Odyssey was king of the ships, DS9 was just a *tad* too small, and ground combat was... REALLY really bad.

[@jimbodee4043]

Always worrying news when companies buyout your game company and have plans for it.

[@sergjarz1145]

Best game in the universe.. !!!

[@jerekcolt9232]

You got that right 👍🏻 Back when the Foundry was still there this game was so... alive. So seemingly limitless😢

[@xaionik]

Cryptic is dead. The heart and soul of the company has left or is leaving. I have no faith in DECA.

[@tenaciousgamer6892]

I don't trust the CEO, and I don't trust deca games. There are no devs fixing bugs it seems, because most have moved on.

[@QziQza]

The way some folk are talking, it sounds like sto has always been a stable experience, with few bugs.. really? What we are experiencing now, we have experienced before.. on many occasions! the servers are held together by gaffa tape, function on faith, and have always been powered by rodents on mini treadmills. They prefer to ignore complaints when servers are struggling, but they can always report them as fixed, when server traffic is low. i think the flicker book rubber banding is feeling more of a big deal, because it's duly compounded by some change-based apprehension at the change of hands, and a tinge of sadness at the old guard being put to pasture. that will settle, on both counts, and we'll be back to our normal 'ridicule, and rail against' before we know it.

[@ForgottenGamesAndMods]

Looks like soft particles overload; should have an easy fix.

[@backtoearth1983]

20plus years and the game is A MESS... There is a subtle hint there

[@gimilkhad8169]

Um...didn't it come out in 2010? So 14 years tops?

[@ZenMasterChip]

❤👍 L8r)

[@wilddog1368]

Great report Stu.. love the content you put out so please keep it up. As for STO, I would spend more on the game if the pricing was a lot better. Dropping two hundred dollars on a bundle is just something I can not do even though I want to buy the ships. I also hope that they focus more on telling a story than an agenda because too many games of late have moved into trying to appease groups instead of being focused on telling a great story. Having to dump tons of money to chase higher DPS ranges has been kind of a drag also when you're forced into playing only one way which anymore is a Tac char to get the Uber damage. Being one that has loved Engineers for ages the higher outputs of Tac players buries all else. I only hope that someday they will fix this and give Engineers something to make them shine.

[@GenjiShimada.]

If its slowly moving into ICU/Life Support mode and with devs/artists jumping ship left and right. I feel worried by 2025-2026 it will just be Lights On Only Mode. Maybe why this year 2024 for Yearly Event Reward they going out with last huray and give all 3 instead of choosing 1 of 3. if thats case then I'll be sad to see no more story eps/art/system updates/ship model updates to game. But least I'll be able to log in every once in while etc

[@dgrm7559]

DECA is all mobile games. If you go to thier site and click games there are nothing but moblie games.

[@Spotcats]

If the buisness is hurting, fire the DEI staff first.

[@play030]

Totally uncalled for and racist.

[@Spock4771]

Pocvo space tfo was rubber bandung

[@wolfpuck5845]

Good evening

[@k0v4c]

7:53 this has been my average experience playing STO for years. All this time I had been suspecting it was due to the company being cheap and focusing on servers in the US, whereas I was in Europe. Since the move to DECA, a company based in Germany, I only experienced this kind of lag once, overall my ingame experience has improved. Although, this may be pure coincidence and simply an anecdotal experience I had.