Cerulean Blue Hue - Schmincke Horadam Watercolors | The Paint Show 29

[@raosprid]

You actually combined two different sayings: "knocked it out of the park" and "blew it out of the water". They have pretty much the same meaning, except the second can also mean to utterly destroy or ruin something.

[@LironYan]

Haha got it, thank you 😂🙏🏼👌🏼

[@johnnywhatevah5201]

Hi Liron. Cerulean Blue is an amazing color and one of my favorites, a very good sky color. A true Cerulean Blue is actually a Cobalt based pigment - PB35. Cobalt pigments are expensive, so if you were to check any manufacturers catalog, the cobalt pigments will be the upper tier series. So a hue is made to make the color cheaper and accessible to watercolorists. A manufacturer is not required to state if they put white into a color, so it is really nice that Schmincke does. A phthalo pigment is much cheaper than a cobalt pigment, and sometimes a Chinese white or even chalk is mixed with the blue to create a Cerulean Blue Hue. Zinc White gives the Cerulean Blue Hue a slightly flat feel, and is used as a tint for gouache very often. Btw, if you were to mix 5% Zinc White to 95% single pigment tube watercolor you would make your own gouache. The cheapest Cerulean Blue using cobalt I could find, dependent on the fact of where I live, was Shinhan SWC Extra Fine (sold internationally as Shinhan PWC Extra Fine). Yeah, I was recently on a Cerulean Blue replacement mission, so this info is the result of my own investigations. I hope this expands on your knowledge and as always thanks for the vid, it is good to see somebody elses watercolor journey. Jonathan

[@glorioskiola]

Johnny Whatevah Daniel Smith has their cerulean blue chromium (very vibrant) in stick form. All the sticks are the same price, less than $9 at Jerry’s or Cheap Joes, Dick Blick. Even some Primateks and normally expensive cobalts come in stick form. The sticks are huge and a great bargain, at least for those in the USA.

[@johnnywhatevah5201]

Hi Glori Oskiola. I am an ex-pat (not American) who now lives in South Korea, so Daniel Smith is not sold here...:( I live in the land of Mission Gold and Shinhan, with reasonably priced Hobein too. The only reason and way for me to get DS is the fact that my sister-in-law lives in TX, and so helps me out. Sticks sound good but can be a bit irksome for storage in humid climes like it is here in the summer, but a great idea nevertheless. Thanks. Jonathan

[@TerrieJohnson731]

Oh! That's why such variations and Leningrad/St. Petersburg really skipped on the pigment. Nice, but too weak for me to love it.

[@glorioskiola]

Johnny Whatevah, actually a humid climate would make the sticks easier to cut a piece off to put in your palette. That’s how I use them, and before I can cut them, I have to put them in a closed container with a cup of water to create a humid environment!

[@LironYan]

Haha wow thank you! I’ll probably check out ShinHan’s version soon, as I can easily get them locally 😊🙏🏼

[@ljsquare1]

I love your color demonstrations. So much to learn.

[@LironYan]

Thank you 🙏🏼😊 Happy to help!

[@gorway7]

Hi Liron, I was quit surprised by Cerulean blue hue in how much less staining it is to native Phthalo Blue. I think that the China White is more than a colour moderator - I suspect that Zinc Oxide may absorb the Phthalo blue and form a Lake type pigment that sits more on the surface. I have been reasonably successful lifting out clouds with it. They do vary a lot from brand to brand though. I still use some genuine Cerulean in mixes though as I like the granulation and separation you get - especially for things like dry stone wall or lichen on rocks and trees.

[@LironYan]

Great observation, I haven’t thought of that! (: This seems to be what’s going on here

[@adildraws]

This is really nice color. Wonderful blue color.

[@LironYan]

Yes, it’s def one of my favorites 😁🎨

[@jaimeanderson9238]

I must have 40 blues mostly Daniel Smith and Holbein and I agree. When I first used this one I was blown away. It just has so much depth while also being so bright.

[@LironYan]

Wow - 40 is impressive 😂 Yes - this is definitely one of my favorites!

[@jaimeanderson9238]

I can't stop buying tubes of watercolor😂

[@TerrieJohnson731]

I adore cerulian for skies, and I have seen how it can vary SO much by brand! I am still shopping, I found a color I like in my new Jane Davenport's Brights palette, it's called 70's eye shadow, hahaha! It's a bit bright, but I can knock it back a bit. My White Nights is really weak, and why they decided to skimp on that pigment mystifies me, so the hunt continues.... The Schminke looks good! I might have to let go of some cash on that one in awhile. I am actually building a DS stick palette.

[@LironYan]

Haha great solution 😉👌🏼

[@TerrieJohnson731]

I own that one! Never paletted the colors...will have a serious look at it! Thanks!

[@tisaloewen7051]

my cerulean blue is warm I sware!! when I squint it looks purple. I am confused.

[@Donna_G]

I don't have that paint. I have a half pan set of Schminke Horodam watercolor paints; but, Cerulean Blue Hue isn't part of it. There is a pan of blue paint that has the same pigment number as Daniel Smith Cerulean, though. When it goes on the paper, it is very light. It is no where near as dark as what you demonstrated in this video. To me it looks much like French Ultramarine does when I use it with a lot of water. Do you know what the difference would be?

[@Donna_G]

Maybe; but, when I had my reintroduction to watercolor paints, I was taught that any paint that was labeled as 'hue' was visually the same as the non-hue version. It was just made up of a combination of less expensive pigments to create that particular paint color. I wonder how the Cerulean Blue Hue would compare with Cerulean Blue from the Schminke Horadam line?

[@TerrieJohnson731]

I have Helio Turquoise half pan by Schminke 9.99 on ebay. I think that one with zinc white might be a winner. Will have to try. I got Rich Green Gold, stick form, D.S. today. I am slowly collecting convenience artist colors.

[@LironYan]

These are awesome! Reminds me I want to build a palette based on FULL pans by the way 😁🎨

[@TerrieJohnson731]

my White Nights 36 set is full pans. It has a brush groove at tup that holds the 1/4 sticks perfectly for now, but 3/4 of sticks left still fpr my DS Palette. I have Sodalite Genuine and the Green Gold today. I have similar colors, but need to do very careful shopping. I want some colors to granulate, for grounds, stuccos and brick and some foliage types, . I hated granulation until I began to understand it's usefulness in added texture where I want it ;-)

[@TerrieJohnson731]

Thanks Yasmine! I have played with salt, and sure to do it more. Rich Green Gold is gorgeous, and transparent ;-) I have a similar color I could have mixed with yellow to mimic it, but a hair off, so I am happy to have it. A lot of colors are convenience, a lot are unique. I need to shop smart and be sure I am buying 12.00 sticks that are NOT easily mixable, or would become mud if I did. I am pretty good with mixing, but there can be some pitfalls...losing vibrancy is a big one too. Thank you for your reply! Oh, and Sodalite Genuine looks like Indigo/Paynes Gray with a nice granulation. I love it a lot! At first I said to myself, I didn't need this, but a granulating dark-dark I did not have. It takes play time too, to see the subtle variances ;-)

[@TerrieJohnson731]

We all want to know how many and what colors and brands you choose. Cant wait!

[@habs_baby63]

Blew it out of the "sky," Hit it it out of the "ballpark." 😁

[@LironYan]

Haha yes, that 😂🙏🏼

[@ifoundthisthing7954]

How similar is this colour to the talens van gogh one? I really love that colour but am looking for an artist grade more transparent replacement

[@LironYan]

Coincidentally I have a lot of experience with the Van Gogh version, as I had their Cerulean Blue as well in my old palette 😁 Color-wise, they look slightly different. The Schmincke color moves a little more towards green, while the Van Gogh is a “cleaner” blue. The van Gogh version is a little lighter (can achieve significantly fewer values / darkness). But - it’s still a beautiful color overall. I will say that I can feel the difference in quality. Control with Schmincke is a little easier (getting the exact value you want, gradual wash, wet in wet etc). I hope this helps!

[@ifoundthisthing7954]

That helps a lot thank you Liron. I thought I'd heard you mention van gogh paint in another of your videos and then I saw you using the palette only, with different (pro) paints inside in another video. Most other watercolour KZbinrs tend to have started with other brands more often cotman. I'm gradually working my way through your content and enjoying it a lot :) After your explanation I may have to give the schmincke a whirl, I tend to use winsor and newton artist but am curious about the Rembrandts. Let me know what you think of those if you've tried them. Thanks again 👍

[@VictoriaVorontzova]

היי לירון, רציתי לשאול האם אתה נותן שיעורים?

[@MedaHalmaciu]

Actually, cad res is the ine that has some yellow in it. Magenta is a pure red, no blue in it.

[@LironYan]

I guess I’m biased and consider the warmer reds the neutral ones haha. Thank you for the correction (:

[@bretking1978]

I bought a tube of cerulean blue Windsor & Newton and it is SUPER GRANUULATING. Pb35

[@sketchingjohn1852]

The real stuff really granulates. Tough to get a smooth sky. I've used the W&N Cotman Cerulean Hue. It doesn't granulate, though it can be a little chalky in some mixtures.

[@bretking1978]

sketchingjohn im fairly new to watercolor so maybe im wrong but out of all my paints this one appears to me to be the most granulating without a doubt to me. But i have only been using watercolor for 7 or 8 months now and only got my first professional paints in the past 2 months. Lovely medium btw!

[@bretking1978]

sketchingjohn nevermind.... i just reread your comment and saw that it says Cotman... you are correct the Cotman is a hue and has practically no granulating properties.

[@sketchingjohn1852]

No problem, I was going to clarify just to try to save you some money. Happy painting.