cEvin Key, Skinny Puppy - Waveshaper TV Ep.1 - IDOW Archive Series

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From our interview with cEvin for I Dream Of Wires, filmed in Los Angeles - January 2012.
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[@Negative.headspace]

Times like the 80's 90's and very early 2000's will never again exist, its hard for people like me to move into the future, because now everything is extremely different, and becoming uncomfortable

[@manakahas4927]

It's 2023. I JUST came back from one of the final tour shows. Holy smokes, man... so happy I went.

[@blacksunsigrune8831]

Me too, i just saw them last Sunday April 23 2023 in Boston Massachusetts

[@manakahas4927]

@@blacksunsigrune8831 honestly thought I missed the boat years ago. Happy we got one last hurrah!

[@oldboy2399]

Me too, saw them in Boston, epic show and farewell to a life changing band....

[@valoss]

This music is 40 years old yet sounds like it is from 400 years in the future

[@biodot88]

Yeah we knew that when we were listening to it at the time.

[@voltomike]

This interview is FAR too short. I found SP in 1986 and they Blew My Mind! They were beyond what I even could imagine that I was looking for. I always wished I could join them. Geniuses

[@buckleyhamman]

Utter Genius and RIP Goettel. There will never be another like him. The places these guys have sent me have been priceless.

[@applemarkwantsvids]

And just why the FUCK didn't this interview go on for another 90 minutes...

[@sepeko86]

Or 90 hours...

[@dukenukem3dfx572]

Wow, so rare to see a member of Skinny Puppy talk like this. Gives us fans an insight to what was going on in their heads. Truly amazing stuff.

[@jhonnycagexrage7458]

I agree

[@Mathew69er]

I'm 54 years old now and I still listen to the music, great sound, a band with character, especially on my Teufel 5.1 + Yamaha receiver a real pleasure ...

[@d1ssolv3r]

Awesome, I'm only 27 but have listened to them since I was a kid. Love this band lol

[@jinggarcia]

skinny puppy fan here since the 80s.

[@cocilrow3902]

I want 4 hours of this

[@thezenboy]

cEvin is kind enough to meet fans after shows. Sadly, I become star struck and barely coherent when I’ve met him. I wish I could sit with him for an hour and just talk. I’d also like to tell him that he has provided the soundtrack to much of my life. A true legend.

[@2.7petabytes]

Skinny Puppy fan since 1985! Rock on!

[@maxmatson1578]

BrAp oN!!¡! My man🎹🎧💫💀✋✌

[@FWDSUXARSE]

I first discovered them in 92 (being born in 80 I was just discovering KMFDM, NIN, Skinny Puppy, and other acts like Kraftwerk) I discovered New Order and Depeche Mode a few years prior but my late cousin introduced me to heavy metal and industrial as well as acts like WASP, Twisted Sister, Slayer, Megadeth years prior. Extremely grateful he introduced me to new horizons and I've greatly expanded on those since then. God rest his soul.

[@rubaidaallen2764]

Saw puppy on 4-21-23. So great 🔥🔥🔥

[@oldschoolebm666]

Bites and remission! Way ahead of their time. Still my favorite...

[@seanvanderwalt9969]

He gets an instant Like for the kitty.

[@oldboy2399]

I'm 43 now, I was around 15 when I discovered this band, it changed and altered me forever, I love these guys and their sounds, a limitless well of inspiration for me and my creative endeavours over time, Cheers!

[@oldschoolebm666]

Ha! I'm 42 and I was 15 as well. Shaped my music taste forever and life as well. I even have an all hardware synthesizer studio at home thanks to this guys...

[@oldboy2399]

@@oldschoolebm666 Awesome, I'm in the process of getting new equipment now.

[@avdiz]

Saw them in 87 at the Cameo Theater, Miami FL after getting a dj copy of Mind....Forever Fan!

[@biodot88]

Such a smart, cool guy and good looking on stage back in the day. Their hair was a huge part of of skinny puppy

[@ronneyrendon]

wow. such a chill guy. so cool to hear the story of the origins of skinny puppy. i wonder if he really knows how many people he has helped through his music. such a humble guy.

[@elasticoGomez]

My favourite band EVER

[@jaxager]

My three favorite musical acts of all time: Zappa, Johnny Cash, and Skinny Puppy... I have eclectic tastes in music. Lol

[@travislee9662]

If I put my old iPod classic on shuffle all those would pop up lol

[@MrJpm1989]

This man is a genius when it comes to music. Skinny Puppy being my all time favorite band I can't ever get enough. Their music pulled me through some very tough times and was the best of times . A friday night lights are off with a few friends and tripping on acid, I mean tell me where there is a better place to be. CEvin is the Skinny Puppy what Neil is to Rush.

[@raimundochwa7226]

for sure SKP are the innovators of samples no band comes close

[@MaineConservative76]

When Skinny Puppy reformed and did a tour I lived in Florida at the time. Growing up I was introduced to them by a teacher of mine in the seventh grade, hearing them for the first time change my world. As a guitar player I primarily listened to metal at that time. I had always dreamed of seeing Skinny Puppy live and when they disbanded so did that dream. Seeing them in Florida was a dream come true. Sneaking into a side entrance to the club after the show I was able to meet cEvin and Ogre briefly! I thanked cEvin for all his work, meeting him was a dream come true for a kid that grew up in Maine.

[@tq2769]

Love him and this band so much.

[@blacksunsigrune8831]

I just saw skinny puppy play Sunday April 23rd 2023 in Boston Massachusetts.

[@oldboy2399]

I was there, legendary show, cheers!

[@Unit_With_Legs]

Huge influence to both my life, and my music.

[@birdsiview6845]

Can only imagine what Their sessions were like. Hugely inspirational! Too Dark Park, GREATEST LIVE SHOW I HAVE EVER BEEN TO!

[@marinawolf]

Same here. Unforgettable show.

[@mikehydropneumatic2583]

In 1988 I was 16 when I for the first time (out of three) saw Skuppy live. Months before I started going out to very (VERY!) alternative places and had these songs in my head for days. They turned out to be Assimilate and The Choke not knowing what band it was. Later in 2005 before a SP show at Melkweg Amsterdam I met Ogre, very nice guy that takes a bit time for his fans. Brap on.

[@fredrikekholm3718]

I know what you mean. The first time I heard Assimilate, it blew my mind. Really opened up my views on what music could be about. Still one of my alltime favourite songs.

[@illogick9062]

Truth I got to chat with him a bit before a gig of his in '08...

[@mikehydropneumatic2583]

@@illogick9062 In 2005 I met a Belgian couple pre show (Melkweg Amsterdam). The woman had contact with Ogre on a Praga Kahn forum. She asked him are you Ogre from Skinny Puppy? He answered yes!

[@adamak47miller90]

There needs to be a SKINNY PUPPY day like Christmas.

[@donovanhaas7315]

A good buddy used to refer to Skinny Puppy as Death Disco. Always liked that. Mind: The Perpetual Intercourse is till my favorite. Great stuff.

[@kevinphillips150]

A world of the art of industrial music. If you enter, you might not want to come back.

[@beffiesv650]

Love that he has one of his cats in his lap. :)

[@greeframski3202]

Fisherman!

[@terryr9052]

@@greeframski3202 One of my favorites by him is a solo album called Music for Cats

[@greeframski3202]

@@terryr9052 ive got it! The goods.

[@wolfpack1696]

unreal how creative they are,with sounds no one could produce other than them!

[@BushmansAdventures]

Love this! Grew up listening to Images In Vogue, Skinny Puppy, Download etc Saw these guys all over Vancouver BC in the nightclubs 👍

[@DragonTVSJC]

Cevin Key is a genius.

[@smiznog9125]

100% one of the most prevelant musicians in my ear my whole life going back to the 90s, and always nice to see someone else recognize his music. Got a friend addicted to Music for Cats recently felt very happy about it.

[@NullStaticVoid]

I started on Severed Heads (and ET, CV amd TG of course) then got into SP in the early 90's. Great to hear there is some connection. Severed Heads was a very mysterious band back then. We just got tapes of tapes from people. Also the same way I discovered SP. Though by the early 90's we had the beginings of internet to look things up .

[@strik979]

Wish there was more interviews like this .

[@malakisands8180]

In my apartment back in the early 1990’s I had 4 15” Yamaha pa speakers with the back two and have the right and left switched and put on Too Dark Park. Those who stayed had a new experience and outlook on none radio music that made you open your mind

[@aarynmaurer2814]

Thank you Cevin for your wisdom around your creative genius. I hope you feel how important for the world of ingenuity you are

[@dexbam-remastering]

I immediately recognized that these were my remastered videos

[@Retroalicemichael]

To see Fishermen is both sad and heart warming.

[@erinleonobrien]

Fred is my friend 💕 this was so cool to listen to thanx Cevin…skinny puppy helped shape an entire time of my young woman life

[@rocznik83]

This man is my all time hero. A black and white picture of him, Ogre and Bill Leeb (from the very beginning of Skinny Puppy) was the first thing I have ever downloaded from the internet on my 26k modem :)

[@Steadyawake]

I remember crank callers in the 90's and throwing stuff like skinny puppy and trauma on when they called backed...when they heard that stuff they never called back hehe

[@oddh4322]

frickin awesome,i have to say ive been a fan of all electronic music since the 70's im 48 and seen skinny puppy live and is the best sounding,best visual and fulfilling shows ive experienced,last show was at the ogden in denver co and was sic,had a great time,keep electronic music this way and win the world over,thanks and peace from loveland,colorado

[@oldschoolebm666]

Was this concert at the Ogden back in 2005 or so when they got back together and it was sold out? If so, I was there and man... Surreal. My favorite concert ever. Big fan of SP

[@ToysintheStatic]

So crazy how much they all loved the Mirage- they seem like nightmares. At least the Emax had a great workflow. But really since I knew he used it like that, I’ve always wanted a Serge. It’s been said on this a bunch, but we really do need a good Skinny Puppy documentary!

[@colinrussell2017]

Mirage was the next benchmark at the time. It was the poor man's fairlight! And at $3000 in 1983 money, it puts thing into perspective when cEvin calls it "affordable" Puppy rocks two mirages in the classic Ain't it Dead Yet video BTW. Dwayne with an orginal Mirage and cEvin with the DSK model. Those huge choirs and orchestral hits in First Aid are amaaaaaaaazing!😱😱😱

[@markmower6507]

R.I.P. Dwayne!

[@tastelesstouch]

I had the chance to see SP about 10 years ago in a pretty small venue and cEvin was packing up afterwards and I called him over and as he was walking over I started belligerently yelling about how fucking awesome he was and he kind of waved me off as a drunk. If only I had kept my cool I probably could of had an interesting conversation instead of rambling like an idiot...

[@markusantonio4866]

That's okay, that happened to me with Bob Mould. I wasn't drunk, but asked dumb questions after his show, as he was packing up. He wasn't in the mood to talk

[@gameofdespair]

Thank you for this! cEv is a living legend and it's good to see his stories documented.

[@HexMarksthespot]

I remember the day I bought the eyes of stanley pain like it was yesterday. We listened to the entire CD from beginning to end without stopping and after the last track everyone just kind of sat there, I think stunned. No one spoke for a minute or two trying to wrap our minds around what the hell we had just listened to. It's an amazing album. Also, it's funny he mentioned hitting a pillow. Someone gave me some drum sticks the other day, and I was hitting the edge of the couch cushion next to me and thought it sounded just like the beginning of the testure 12" remix

[@kevinerhardthansen9016]

HexMarksthespot Same experience with that album except I had my dj headphones on sitting there with my mind blown.

[@albertocabezas282]

Me too! I borrowed the CD from a friend. It was absolutely mental. I listened to that CD no less than four times in a row while I was reading Arthur C. Clarke's "Rendez-vous with Rama". Too bad I had to return the CD next day. I nearly worn out my cassette recording listening to it over and over, specially when I returned home late nite from muy job. It was a completely magic moment.

[@ashasalany]

RIP Fisherman ❤

[@Lofote]

Bill Leeb of Front Line Assembly, Delerium and LOTS of other projects fame :)

[@albertocabezas282]

Wonderful interview. Thank you very much.

[@eyeteeth76]

His Dwayne impression at 6:23 is absolutely precious.

[@oddballsok]

and what is 16K ?

[@maxmatson1578]

I've been waiting for this footage forever!¡¿?¡! thank you👌BrAp oN!!¡!🎹🎧💫😵👍✌

[@WaveshaperMedia]

Glad to see so many of you enjoying the interview. Just wanted to point out that there's a longer cut of this interview available exclusively to members of Waveshaper TV on Patreon: patreon.com/waveshapertv

[@oddh4322]

i forgot to add,clense fold and manipulate was my first cd i ever bought,still have it everything else was on vinyl or cassette and still rock those as well,nothing like old school vinyl on old school pioneer cs99a,or my altecs still sounds amazing to this day

[@ritualistictrance7293]

Classic album indeed

[@Philtho]

Would love to follow this hole down into Tear Garden and have an interview with Edward Ka-Spel. He's right along these lines with Legendary Pink Dots and their ever experimental sound and ethereal riffs.

[@faithpattison767]

This man is a musical genius

[@blairnowell1475]

I love so much of the old SP, but also… Wish there was a whole load of tracks like Blue Serge! That techno-ish industrial is great stuff! Use it for my cycling nowadays!

[@jeffrobagman2834]

The Process is a seriously underrated album!!

[@zeppelinfan82]

Great Interview

[@grimlyfiendish3003]

My first sampler was the cutting edge CASIO SK-1!! What a machine... More like a robot really, with a mind of its own design!

[@wolvesrunhere115]

Awesome! So glad to have stumbled on this 🦇👁🦇

[@VaporMemory]

So awesome, thanks for this!

[@AnalogNoiseLab]

WOW, great! Love Cev and SP. Thanks

[@EBMZEQUENZER]

Bill Leeb changed my life forever!

[@ClaytonMacleod]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qqrOq2OHeNmnnZY

[@Jacobs-pillow]

I first heard Nine Times from Initial Command in 1990 and I've never looked back either... Early Delirium is incredible as well..

[@iluvsweaterpuppets9166]

Can't thank you enough for this.

[@lewasil]

Why oh why can't I go back in time??

[@Jenny_Oblivion]

Thanks for this!

[@Trakzero]

Like walking through our own past. Thanks!

[@seagrey75]

Holy smoke how many machines!

[@peteypoodles358]

R. I. P. Duck

[@AnthonyPi1999]

Great interview!

[@Benjamin-fu4fl]

i wish cevin would talk so much more about his experience with modular. id listen to every single word for as long as he talked.

[@ExAstris]

Fantastic, wish this was longer.

[@WaveshaperMedia]

FYI there is a longer cut of this interview (7 minutes longer) available to those who support our work via Patreon. Link in the video description

[@nyokoSalome]

95-96-97...... was just so much bridging from the old midigen from that time, to the new..... "sp" to tha "dw" gen... 2:45 "smothered hope" came immediately to mind!! RIP dwayne... BRILL mindset... 'blue serge'/download/plateau-sense of things! keep leading us onwards sir!! ;)...

[@coolhandchunk]

Blue surge is a masterpiece

[@notsure7874]

Blue Serge

[@rolandmarckwort]

Great interview with a legend!

[@Lutzilla_]

is this the singer..?assimilate..smothered hope, just timeless,good, creative electronic music..good memories back in the days by the late 80´s and the early 90´s on our ebm-partys..:-)

[@WaveshaperMedia]

No, the singer is Nivek Ogre aka Ogre aka Ohgr - cEvin formed the band with Ogre and they have been the only constant members of Skinny Puppy.

[@Lutzilla_]

@@WaveshaperMedia ah ok, thank you!

[@erichusayn]

Awesome interview. Would love to hear him elaborate more on Dwayne's influence...

[@mikehydropneumatic2583]

You can hear it on every album he was part of, more layers and more complex music basicly. Listen to CF&M that is Dwayne!

[@temporoboto]

ACE! Thanks for sharing.

[@jill9697]

God, I love him. GENIUS.

[@johnsummers9660]

There's no such thing as 'too much delay'.

[@WestSideGorilla1980]

Genius

[@sonsofanarchy5316]

I listen MM and Skinny Puppy, i love his songs

[@rondelalexandre8987]

Excellent

[@CS-sf1rz]

Very kool thanks 🙏

[@Sushilover01]

Can’t wait for Even Furthur ‘19!!!

[@vikingbuilt]

Keep up the good work!

[@hankscorpio8928]

Damn that was phenomenal.

[@thedeadonmusic1]

I remember hearing Skinny Puppy for the first time in the 90s at a private all nite club in downtown Seattle...How f***in cool!

[@_c_y_p_3]

Upstairs room of the City Nightclub Portland they were on constant rotation.

[@thebmxband1t]

Wow. That was pretty def👍

[@respobabs]

I literally forgot that once was a word. :)

[@SiqDopeNasty]

Fucking awesome! I love this

[@zindi1138]

very cool.

[@spiroskoyfos7223]

PERFECT...

[@pcaetano7527]

Kevin in his studio at his home with Fisherman the kitty.

[@everydayviral6680]

I miss my PCM41 lol

[@chaosreigns7386]

dOWNLOAD is by far one of the best side projects cevin key and ohgr have created...

[@hextatik_sound]

WTF? Are you joking? Nivek didn't create or participate in Download.

[@illogick9062]

It was Phil Western aka dj philth rip...

[@Abruzzo333]

Cevin Key, Dwayne Goettel, Phil Western and Mark Spyby made the first 3 Download albums if you include Charlies Family. Ogre wasn't in Download. After The Eyes of Stanley Pain it's downhill from III onward IMO. It seems the absence of Dwayne's presence took all of the edge, structure and intensity away from the project and made it sound like a bunch of random noodlings.

[@tomt5745]

Thanks K.

[@JulioAvalos3000]

Icons... Icons!

[@johngraboski]

Cleanse Fold Manipulate was peak. Loved Slayer at the time as well. Slayer!!