CFmoto 450mt adjustments

[@pawelwolski1316]

Just did the first 1000 km here in Poland. Just few gravel roads, rest on pavements. This is a great bike but...... It has short gearing, 125 indicated (120 gps) you are at 7000 rpm with 8500 red line. I have already installed 15T front sprocket, that drops the rpm about 500. The fueling off idle is not great (thx euro whatever it is). Throttle cable adjustment helps, but a good tune is the real solution. At 178cm and 75 kgs, bike fits me like a glove. The front suspension is firm, all the way out on preload and still playing with the dampening. Rear I added just a few turns on the preload. I do like the suspension, it's does a very nice job. The exhaust is actually on the loud side, ok I guess I am old. Skid plate is paper thin. I changed oil at 300 km. When removing the skid plate, the lower frame rails(they really are like lower skid plate support tubes, not very substantial) spread by a few cm. I had to use a tie down strap to bring them in prior to reinstalling the skid plate. I got unlucky, my cluth lever came without the pivot bushing pressed in........got replacement under warranty. Love all the adjustments, gear shift lever, both hand levers, suspension........ Mix riding computer shows 3.7/100, refueling math shows 4.0/100. Hope this helps someone.

[@michamicha9617]

Jaki filtr oleju pasuje hf177?

[@pawelwolski1316]

@michamicha9617 I just dropped the oil at 300, didn't change the filter as I was going for all the small particles. The dealer installed HF 682.

[@GrimReaper333666]

someone made a video that if you use a 15T front and a 45T rear the revs will be around 5000-5200 at 100km with the overall performance remaining the same. hope that helps you

[@JohannesDalenMC]

I'm so stoked that you bought a new bike that I will use on our tours, ha! 😁

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

You will never put your viking ass on this one, man! 🤣

[@JohannesDalenMC]

I'm not that heavy, you remember how I lost 8 kg on our previous tour? ;)

[@pinkiewerewolf]

Always fun setting up a new bike.

[@modzso2]

Congrats on the new bike! I hope there will be some comparisons to other bikes you have tested :) And dont forget to enjoy it!

[@TheSar]

This was super helpful - just went and made some adjustments to my 450MT. Cheers!

[@peterwilson6363]

Thanks for your 450MT videos - I am about to pick my one up in New Zealand next month. Probably you know already but it makes sense to back off the clamp tension on the handlebar levers so that when you drop it they can twist around the bars rather than break.. You are a gutsy rider - even when I was your age I was a modest trail rider but loved getting out on river beds and country roads with XL250s and the like. Lets hope there is going to be a new range of smaller bikes than the maxi adventurers - you can have perhaps even more fun on a lighter bike if you arent hoping to cross continents. I rode and XL250 in the highlands of PNG dropping it in rivers and so on. We did 15 days around NZ on XL175, DT250, MT250 camping out, fording rivers etc and really I have to wonder about 1250cc adventure bikes.. So I am hoping the 450MT might be a sweet spot and my first twin after owning many bikes since 1972, topping out with G650GS, XT660, DR650.. I look forward to your next videos and tips on the 450MT. Regards

[@pabloricardodetarragon2649]

Thanks for this formative video that looks deceptively trivial but it's the kind of details that can make your life miserable if you do not care. Trying to make 350 km offroad in the day while struggling to pass the gears or trying to use sensibly the rear brake with big boots, plus a bad position of the levers can be a true pain when the wrists and shoulders are aching after a few hours. I have seen that the foot pegs look really good, and as you seem tall maybe the high seat will be necessary so the knees are not too high and bent. So getting from seated to standing will be easier offroad and better blood circulation in the legs on road. Everybody seems happy with the comfort of the seat, a very good thing as a custom seat is 300 euros and more. That reminds me that in the old days the first thing to change on the Suzuki DR 650 SE 1996 was the seat, a brillant design by surely Vlad III the Impaler. The bike was not so cheap (equivalent 5700€ 1997, 7.5 months of the 1997 french minimal wage) but after modifying and tuning the springy suspensions (400 to 500 euros), a seat 300 €, a 750 GSRX exhaust 250 € to have a responsive engine and save about 10 pounds, rejetting the carburetor and good air filter plus a good engine tuning 200€+ as the original carburation was a disaster, big gas tank Acerbis 20l 430€, maybe 2 tubliss (450€), plus details like brake metal pads150€ that makes a sum above 1500-1600€. That begins to be expensive. It's the proof that buying an overrated 30 years old tail bike and rebuild it, it's not a good operation. And when I see that the 450 MT is usable as is out of the crate, fully tunable suspensions, well tuned injection for good torque, good brakes, good seat, tubeless tires, 17 liters gas tank and so on, I think that this bike at 6500€ 2024 (4.5 months of the 2024 french minimal wage) is an excellent value for the money. In fact in acquisitive power the prices of the middle sized bikes destined to the poor bikers are gone down. For the big bikes, the last 20 years, the price in terms of months of minimal wage have remained constant 15 months and for some largely more as we find now bikes largely more expensive than cars. That means that for the low medium incomes whose wages are going down closer and closer to the minimal wage, the big bikes are unaffordable. it's easy to see by the age of the motorcyclist getting older and older and the change of the owners social classes.

[@M.Shahbaz.Khan.]

Appreciate the videos please keep making them!

[@toddwmac]

Thanks Diogo, extremely helpful. Thanks! My wife and I tried to get into your part of the world last month while moto-touring in Europe, but the storms were just too much heading in your direction. Still hoping to visit your region and maybe ride together one of these days. Cheers from the mountains of Utah, USA

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

Let me know in advance next time 😄

[@mixzangu]

Something about a new bike, too fresh. Happy riding 🎉

[@sspark479]

당신의 동영상은 유용하며 친절합니다. 나의 구매예정에 확신을 주고 있습니다. 앞으로 많은 영상 부탁합니다.

[@standoutbizpeter]

Looking forward to seeing it in action in October

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

Yepeee!! 😄 you will have to try it Peter!

[@PeterR0035]

It's really interesting to compare the CFmoto MT to the SR race version motorcycle (A completely different model but same engine). That SR is about 10kg lighter (!!) and has 5 HP more. The MT weighs 175kg empty and about 43HP. Couldn't they do better, especially with a 2 cylinder engine?? In a different price range; I still think the KTM690 or Husqvarna 701 is a very good balance; empty +/- 145kg and 75HP (which is way too much power, hahaha)

[@nigeldclegg]

Another great video Diogo 😀.

[@Mrenduro77]

Hello congratulations for the video, I adjusted the brake lever, and the position driving standing is ok, one thing I noticed that the yoke of the pedal pedal seems to have increased empty, before the braking intervenes, have you also had this situation? Because on my former ktm 450 the empty play of the pedal could be adjusted, here I think not🤔

[@Mike.4639]

Vá, mete mas é uns videos com isso a dar calor no mato para ver se a mota aguenta inteira ou se começa a largar peças pelo caminho. Tenho curiosidade acerca da fiabilidade/ resistência disto ( e de outras como Voge, Kove , etc ) a longo prazo com tratamentos estilo enduro ( soft ). A nivel de rede de assistência pós venda também vai ser interessante ver como vão funcionar as coisas.

[@rodrigogoncalves7683]

Boas diogo .. nao achas as pastilhas demasiado ( rijas) ??? Deveria troca ?? Axo os discos muito riscados e um ligeiro chiar no da frente quase a parar … Excelente vídeo muito obrigado . Abraço.

[@AndreyDermansky]

Thanks for all the info. Did you managed to find suitable rear Tyre for that 450mt?

[@ark529]

One more comment on the handlebar holder -> if asymmetrical you can turn them 180° to bring the handlebar in a more forward position ; I have done it at my Tenere -> appr 10mmm more forward; Could check the weight of the bike, please ? Would be great... as I know 175kg dry????

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

195.5kg fully fueled (17.7Litres) ;)

[@Diablorf]

Hi! Could you show in another video the position you ended up with the handlebar according to the handlebar markers?? Thanks you!

[@cowsnorff]

Hello Diogo, thanx for sharing this valuable information! I have a question in regard to your skid plate. I see in your new video's that you have a bulkier version. Did you install it yourself and if i may ask which make? Or do you have a link.. greetings Sebastiaan

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

Hello! Yeah I installed it myself. Its not a hard job, only a few bolts :) This is the one I have unclewang.net/products/450mt-engine-protection-c?_pos=44&_sid=bdc39a947&_ss=r

[@cowsnorff]

@@OFFroadOFFcourse Hello Diogo thank you very much... I came across unclewang to... and was curious if he was legit so your answer covers 2 flies with one stroke (as they say in the Netherlands :-)). Do you have good experience with Unlewang? Or was this your first order?

[@spotthedogg]

You really want to look at handlebar clamps before tightening, some are asymmetrical and have a long side which needs to be torqued all the way down first and leaves a gap only at the rider facing side. Symmetrical clamps want an air gap front and rear

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

Thats some good advice there man, thanks! I pinned your comment up top, maybe it will be useful to other people too =)

[@spotthedogg]

I love this bike and can’t wait to buy one!

[@LEEGOOVER9901]

What does it mean by rider facing side?

[@daveo9844]

@@LEEGOOVER9901When you’re sitting on the seat it’s what you are looking at.

[@paulomartins4383]

Olá Diogo Já fiz cerca de 2500k com a MT e estou a gostar muito. Julgo que não existe concorrente direto que proponha oferta semelhante. E nem seque falo do preço.. No entanto não há bela sem senão... Ultrapassada ( quase totalmente ) a questão do on-off do acelereador, e melhorada a suavidade da caixa após colocar um oleo decente, para alem de um ligeiro emegrecimento com a torca da bateria e remoção das pegas que permitiu baixar quase 5kg, permace o tema do amortecimento. Bem sei que não posso esperar milagres de uma KYB OME de 41mm, mas tem que exisitir espaço para melhorar. Já tentei o que está ao meu alcance com a afinação disponivel, mas continua demasiado rija, seca, sem leitura inicial e demasiado progressiva. Que abordagem já fizeste ao tema ? podes partilhar ? Retirar um pouco de óleo ? Mudar óleo para outro menos denso ? valerá a pena o investimento ( que poderá chegar a perto de 10% do custo da moto ) num serviço especializado ? ou o "hardware" não permitirá grandes melhorias ? E atrás, há alguma coisa a fazer ? ou só mesmo procurar qualquer coisa aftermarket ? tens alguma sugestão ? Os meus parebéns pelo teu trabalho que é seguramente importante na abordagem a várias questões. Obrigado Paulo

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

Ao fim de andar com a moto uns 2000km em offroad, as suspensoes ficaram optimas! Acho que aquilo precisa é de trabalhar! Uma coisa que fiz foi por o sag certo (segui a regra dos 30%, ou seja, cerca 6cm) e depois a compressao e rebound afinei a olho (aqui ja vai do gosto de cada um). Aconselho-te a começar por ai (com a afinaçao do Sag ao afinares a pre-carga da mola)

[@paulomartins4383]

@@OFFroadOFFcourse 😉obrigado

[@diegolopezlima8391]

Could you show how to adjust suspension to the rider’s weight ?

[@gjavo6400]

Hi - nice bike! Definitely for that money. Hope it's reliable and durable too. New bikes usually are, for a good while at least :-) I wonder why you didn't get the Kove 450, isn't that more suitable to your riding? Much more expensive I guess? Whats the weight of your bike once it's all kitted out with crash bars etc? Cheers from a DR650 off roader from Northern Spain - hope to come meet / ride over there some time!

[@gjavo6400]

I just saw this Kove review video which I guess answers my question...from factory not the all round dual sport unicorn it might seem, but more of a race bike in nature: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZDJqquVlqecm7Msi=uyxuHIg_dZowBvsq

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

I picked this bike precisely because in wanted something "less rally" then a kove 450, pr7, ktm 690 etc...because at the end of the day, my bike is my work horse (that i take on tours and training days where i have to ride rather slow and carefully) :)

[@Kevinjimtheone]

I would love to see a bi-directional quickshifter fitted in the CF Moto MT 450. I'm thinking of getting one, and the big differentiating factor between the Honda 500NX and the CF Moto MT450 is that Honda has the e-clutch. Adding a bi-directional quickshifter would be incredible.

[@mixzangu]

This guy tried it kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXzWkqBmiZ6JmsUsi=L9TYp2OyxOFQfdOc

[@metalsadman]

nx500 doesn't have e-clutch.

[@Kevinjimtheone]

@@metalsadman all e-clutch references I see online are for the NX500. Also, Honda said that e-clutch will be compatible with older Honda bikes, too.

[@michaeljohndelmundo4741]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXzWkqBmiZ6JmsUsi=m8eN2yUSXjUm10Z_ Apparently there are aftermarket QS now.

[@crj7218]

Mi like desde España 🇪🇦, y la centralita de la sr que da 50cv

[@emildeopulidoabear578]

What kind of wrench did you use on the handle bar?

[@StephaneGautard-ki7om]

Hello, do you know how to adjust the headlights?

[@Vallecaucanisimo]

What I’m dying to know is the weight. Do you plan on weighing it fully fueled at one point?

[@ribamaniacs1715]

the real weight full of fuel is close to 195kg

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

A friend of mine (Radraven from ADVHead) measured it yesterday, 100% stock bike with a completely full fuel tank = 195kg

[@Vallecaucanisimo]

Thank you! That’s quite the heavy bike for the power. The other features are nice though. I look forward to more videos to see how you like it!

[@musguelha14]

Que altura tens Diogo? Para ter uma noção do espaço para as pernas.

[@Motocr8zed]

For the life of me, I don't know why some people think that threadlocker is reusable. If you break the bond reapply threadlocker and torque the fasteners to spec in the correct order, especially with handlebar fasteners.

[@nzdans]

Wait until you see what it takes to adjust the rotation/angle of the throttle & r/h switch block! There's a screw all the way through the bars so... you buy new bars :)

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

I am a big fan of the angle grinder too! 😅

[@luckydarwin403]

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@pawelwolski1316]

If and when u try to remove the skid plate, I suggest u put a strap between the two down tubes. They will spring out about 2 cm and there is possibly of stripping out the front skid plate bolt. My clutch pivot and cable end had zero grease on them.

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

Good hint! Thank you,l!!

[@giuliobuccini208]

Is the handlebar made of steel or alu?

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

I dont know :o will try with a magnet tomorrow

[@giuliobuccini208]

@@OFFroadOFFcourse Some types of steels are not magnetic... Anyway it would be an interesting test.

[@carlosfigueiredo415]

* the brake lever, is touching the throttle cables* not clutch 😁

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

Ooops xD

[@carronda46]

✌✌✌✌

[@jakaberdajs4378]

At this point, o just want to see you ride the damn thing 😅 and dont hold back on the impressions.

[@ToriADVMoto]

Love it... However disappointed in your choice of screwdrivers 😅... Come on I know you have a more quality screwdriver than the cheapest Chinese screwdriver

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

It was the first one i found in John's garage xD

[@tiagoalexandre2782]

Eu tenho 1,72 e fui testar a mesma com intenção de comprar e ficava com os joelhos demasiado fletidos ao ponto de incomodar passado algum tempo... Eu acho muito honestamente após a testar que está a existir demasiada propaganda para a mota que muita dela não corresponde á realidade e há muita gente a comprar a mota com base neste tipo de opiniões de pessoas assim que fazem vídeos para o KZbin que são " patrocinadas e pagos " ( atenção que está entre aspas ) para divulgar o produto pessoas que têm a ganhar com isto de alguma forma.... É legítimo sem dúvida publicidade é isto propaganda é isto mas todos devem ir testar e comprar com a razão e não com a emoção e melhor ainda aguardar pois vai haver muita gente daqui por uns mesitos a venderem a mota porque a curto prazo vai haver muitos arrependidos

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

Bem, eu n fui patrocinado nem coisa nenhuma...tive tipo 100eur de desconto por ser "famoso" xD Eu ja testei muitas motos no canal...umas gostei, outras achei "meh", e esta gostei tanto que comprei 😄 Quanto a sentires que ficas cos joelhos dobrados: podes sempre comprar o banco de rally. Eu estou à espera do meu