Why I bought the CFMoto 450MT IBEX

[@RichardS-qh8mi]

Your logic is undeniable. People are fed up with the crazy prices of many motorcycles today, yet still want to have fun. The MT450 is all the power you need in the real world whether on or off road. That it’s comfortable, has fully adjustable suspension and tubeless tyres, along with that wonderful 450 twin engine is fantastic. It’s probably the biggest bargain in biking today and I believe will sell by the millions - literally.

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

Indeed! Its half the price of the T7 for a lot more than half a T7 😂

[@unclebadger597]

I can't wait till they come to USA!

[@podunkman2709]

450cc weak engine is not a dream. U'll get it when u have get to the 5th gear to ride 50km/h.

[@unclebadger597]

​@@podunkman2709Dude i ride my wife's KLX 300 and it'll hold 85mph all day long. And I'm a chunky boy. 450 is plenty! ☮️❤️

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

@@podunkman2709 its not a super powerful engine of course, but it easily does 60km/h in 2nd.. 90 in 3rd, 110 in 4th, etc. Top speed around 160, cruise/comfortable/efficient speed at 120

[@TheMisterNebo]

the 450MT is absolutely great, we are loving ours (we have two!). The bike is more than fast enough, it easily cruises at 100km/h on highways, and it has more than enough torque for offroad. The light is VERY good so you won't need more lights on it, it sounds great, good tyres, and it's cheap! Comes with lots of upgrades by default, and any extras will be cheap as well. The quality is surprisingly good, and despite the 194kg, it feels MUCH lighter than the Africa Twin (our previous bikes).

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

Uau, 2 of them? How cool! Im eager to get mine 😊

[@RazzyBCF]

Damn, glad to see you back!

[@renektop6820]

i bought a 450mt 5 days ago, i have done around 300km on it and here is what i have to say so far Pros - the torque, this engine is full of torgue in almost the whole rpm range (im still braking it in, sto i have only gone up to 6k rpms) - sitting position is as comfortable as it gets - the weight, although not an enduro, still pretty light to move around and lift the tail to manuver - the technology on it is the right amount imo, not too much but definatelly not lacking. -the chassis feels very sturdy and can take corners on road like a dream (haven't tried it off road yet) - fully adjustable suspensions (also KYB suspensions) -fuel consumption is very good, you can cruise at 110km/h with a stated consuption of 2.7-3.2 litres per 100km -stock tyres feel ok on road, so no major need to change them immediately (maybe this is needed for more of an off road use) - front brake GRABS HARD, but in a good way, havent felt any danger from my brakes in mountain twisty roads yet - the lights are exceptionally good, high beams pretty makes turns the night to a day Cons - the stock wind shield is laughably small and needs to be changed if you are going to do long travels with it (although the small wind screen is probably a lot better for off road) -rear brake abs seems to be too sensitive? not a major problem since you can turn it off but it is what it is -the pillion handle bars protrude a bit when the bike is on its side stand, so me being the einstein i am, i hit my leg quite often at them when i mount the bike - the clutch felt very light the day i got it but later figured out it wasnt tightened propetly (this is more on my dealer and not the bike) -front sprecket probably needs to be changed froma 14 to a 15 and it will probably solve most of the gearing issues - its a 450, its makes 40~hp at the wheel, its ok, it would be better if it had more XD Overall, i really like it so far, i was keeping my hopes down before i got it but up until now it over delivers

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

Excellent report man! I am eager to try it properly at the end of the next week :D

[@tuanoful]

Two months later, how is it?

[@renektop6820]

@@tuanoful almost 5k km, did some off road but mostly on road, very happy with it It's top speed is about 162 on the dash for me, me being a food enthusiast, with a bigger windscreen and a top box, very acceptable performance in my opinion

[@tuanoful]

@@renektop6820 Thanks for replying! I have more questions, if you don't mind. I don't need speed, a near death fall humbled me Im 90kilos and if I can cruise at 120/130 km/h, I'm more than satisfied. Is it comfortable at that speed? And how does it feel in city commute when filtering and in traffic? The price here in Mexico is REALLY good

[@renektop6820]

@@tuanoful I'm heavier than you by a considerable amount (I'm 120kg) and with a 15 tooth sprocket in the front and a dna air filter the bike will cruise at 120 at 6k rpms, 110 at 5k if you want the engine to be even more relaxed In traffic its as good as a full sized adv can get honestly, I had a versys 650 before the 450mt and I feel I filter through traffic better with the 450

[@FFA_PT]

Ansioso para ver essas ideias e upgrades com a 450MT. Parabens pela máquina 😎

[@metalsadman]

excited for the 450mt vids, i have the bike for over a month now and it's super fun I'm mostly running it on road.

[@jarekjonkisz2648]

I wold love to see your CFmoto 450MT vs Kove 450 rally pros and cons vid. Hope we will see it one day and congrats! Looks like a well thought change

[@FlatBrokeAdventures]

I too have just bought the 450 MT and like it very much. I am new to adventure bikes and look forward to learning this new bike and ridng style.

[@enduromotorradtouren]

New bike, a new project, Diogo. I'm sure you will improve the bike. And we learn a lot from your experience. Happy days, Günter/Nürnberg (I'm paid to be patient, great phrase)

[@MotoSly]

I picked mine up 2 days ago. Best bike i have ridden so far.

[@BassMunn]

Looking forward to seeing more content on the 450 MT, keep em coming please

[@johannescarlsson4559]

I didn't watch a video from you in a long time, always nice and fresh! This bike is more and more interesting to me. It's as you say, how fast do you really need to go.. it's like how Honda should have made the CB500X from the beginning..

[@MichaelShaw206]

Looking forward to your videos on this bike. As mentioned by others, your videos are both informative and entertaining.

[@MotoCampAdv]

Congratulations looking forward to seeing the content

[@EricNation]

congrats on the new bike Diogo! :)

[@arnaldocarmelo-ac2534]

Parabéns pela nova máquina! O desconhecido é sempre incerto... Boa sorte e que essa máquina esteja à altura dos teus Raids/Tracks 💪

[@PedroFortunaGomes]

Finally a video talking about the bike as it is and not with tendencies of being Chinese or other things like that. We will be here to see the evolution of the machine before changing ours....

[@markhills3922]

great honest review; thank you; as an older rider and ex-racer i feel my enduro weapons are getting a bit too much as my pace slows down; they are not comfortable and they are hard to just cruise on; they demand 100% focus and attention at all times; you have me thinking about this bike as i had never really considered it as replacement for my racing steeds; your comments about build quality have impressed me; made in China (poor quality) is why i haven't really considered CF Moto until watching this video.

[@leighhill9185]

I've always been the same way mate but China are finally turning out some decent stuff! Pretty good bang for buck with this bike. Keen to see what the long term longevity is like :)

[@markhills3922]

@@leighhill9185 at under 10K on road here in Australia, no doubt it is great value for money even if it does need a rebuild after 12 months; let's face it, a 15K Enduro bike from the 'name' manufacturers often need a rebuild after 12 months of riding it like it was meant to be ridden; some of these models are a non-stop problem off the show-room floor and need many upgrades just to do what it says on the box; then there is the fact that most of the 'name' brands are built with Chinese made components these days...i believe some of KTM's line-up are actually built in China...no doubt other brands are too; i gave this bike some serious thought last night and i think i have my mind set...just need to go and do a 'fit and feel' test first. i'm of the 'bigger' variety so ergo's and suspension are always a challenge and the fact this bike has KYB at both ends has already ticked a major box; Heavier springs and maybe valve tweaking should be an easy mission.

[@peternaur]

So good to have you back! Great points! Very valid and sound thinking. Super interesting to see how it works out for you. Congratulations on the new bike!

[@jotemenkir]

Congrats on the new bike! Looking forward to the related content!

[@Mal501]

Great logic and what I'm planning. Coming from a 2012 Triumph 800XC I want sometning a little lighter and little more modern, but still "OK" for the road. I don't use the power of the 800 triple (but do LOVE the engine - I'll miss that!) so I think this will be enough. You know, it's way more fun riding a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow! Greetings from Aus.

[@konstantinostzanakis2050]

It all comes down to reliability of the bike, other than that for the price you can not go wrong whith this baby - tenere. Great choice!!

[@johna6968]

The 270 deg crank arrangement is awesome. I do like a main stand though

[@UltralightMotorcycleCamping]

After decades of the mainline motorcycle cartel refusing to make the ADV bike so many of us want, to protect the sales of their heavy mid and full size ADV bikes, I'm glad to see others making ADV bikes that are light enough to function well off road but with enough power to cruise on highways without being at maximum RPM. 450 cc seems like the sweet spot. I'd prefer a single cylinder and even lighter weight, something more like an ADV version of the Kove 500 Rally.

[@eskerinola5845]

You seem to be a knowledgeable and trustable person. I look forward to your 450MT review before swapping my 2014 KLR650 for it. Cheers.

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

I appreciate that! the review is already out by the way :D

[@canabrown4774]

Glad to see another video. Always enjoy your content and I love your accent.

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

Hehe, the accent 😂 i'll try to post morrle often now 😊

[@glinleyt]

Heeeey! Good to see you again. Great product choice. Looking forward to the review!

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

Hey, thanks! I'll try to stick around this time 🤣

[@DJAguitars]

So happy to see this video pop up on my feed! 👍

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

Ahah, thanks! Its good to be back 😂

[@WeckforsDiscovery]

Good luck with the new bike! Greetings from Sweden!👍

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

Hey there! I thought you' stop seeing my videos after meeting me in person 😂😂

[@WeckforsDiscovery]

@@OFFroadOFFcourse No way! I had a fantastic time with you. Coming back for sure.👍

[@muerdelavida]

Welcome back Diogo! Benvido 🙂

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

Thanks man 😊😊

[@pabloricardodetarragon2649]

Very happy to see a new video. The CFMoto 450 is very interesting so I understand perfectly why you have bought it. With 44 ch and a very elastic twin 270° and the announced weight is 175 kg dry. I've seen that some get around 160-165 kg with a little work. So the about the ratio power/weight of many old 600 and more monos. A 270° twin is a plus compared to a mono for road riding. The ratio price/equipment (suspensions, tubeless oh yeah, size of wheels etc...)/general quality is outstanding, at 6500€ it's a bargain. 17.5l of gas give you more that 300km fast offroad, and far more if you go slow and quiet. We see that the Chinese engineers have used a lot of brain juice on this bike on the details to get a good compromise for a dual sports bike. For me the revealing detail is that they preferred to get less power in exchange of a very nice torque curb. Yes a very elastic and sweet engine is more efficient offroad. I feel that the 450 MT will be the reference in cheap light able adventure bike. I'll follow impatiently the next videos.

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

There are MTs already with 160-165kg? Whrre have you seen this? Show me! Show meee!!

[@tatasth8559]

@@OFFroadOFFcourse what is wet weight of cfmoto450mt?

[@metalsadman]

borderline 200kg.

[@pabloricardodetarragon2649]

@@OFFroadOFFcourse Yes I have to remember where I've read this info. Probably some Chinese source.

[@alrightdave6135]

192 kg wet weight. Your weights make no real world sense

[@milkomarkov6414]

Thanks for the review Bro. Great choice for a new bike. I am impatiently waiting for the shipment to arrive at the dealer for Bulgaria. Greetings. 🤘

Looking forward to more videos of this awesome combo: you + the 450MT!

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

Thank you man! I appreciate it :D

[@whatsnext_42]

Currently, I ride a 2022 Himalayan 410. I was initially waiting for the new Himalayan, but I was disappointed with its design. So, I decided to invest some money in my current bike (DNA filter with cover, grips, exhaust, FuelX Lite). However, in the next year or two, I plan to switch my bike, and right now, CF Moto is at the top of my list. As I respect your opinions on bikes, I am eagerly awaiting your first in-depth review.

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

Thanks for watching my stuff :P A note: As you can probably understand from my video, I didnt chose the 450MT because i thought it was A GREAT motorcycle, but because it was, by far, the most interesting motorcycle for a low amount of money. I will need to test it a lot more before I draw final conclusion, but right now I am not necessarily recommending it to anyone because its not super good for off-road and also not super good for on-road. Its a beautiful "Meh!" and that interests me at this stage of my life xD

[@whatsnext_42]

@@OFFroadOFFcourse I understand that, but I'm more of a traveler than an enduro/MX rider. I ride mostly unpaved roads, and right now, my trusty Himalayan is doing an excellent job. I bought the Himalayan after not riding for 32 years, and after 3 years, I feel ready for a bit more power. However, I'm not considering anything above 500cc as I don't ride on highways and prefer small roads. In 2023, I traveled from Croatia to Morocco without using highways. That's why I think the baby Tenere (CF Moto) would be a good choice for me. I've always wished Yamaha would make a 400-500cc Tenere.

[@eddiejaoude]

Secret hand shake LOL HAHA! Sounds great! Are you going to the MalleLondon event near Lisbon in October?

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

I never heard of it :o will you be there?

[@eddiejaoude]

@@OFFroadOFFcourse it is a new event, they are branching out from their events in England. I will be back in Porto for October and November, so yes I am thinking of going, I am waiting for them to release the full agenda to see if I can get involved in the activities as I won't have my bike with me on this trip 😭

[@SamiNami]

I hope it works out for you. It is a great bike on paper.

[@Mike.4639]

Interessante, o preço parece bem ajustado. Optei pela T7, estou super satisfeito com a mota, tem uma ciclística de outro mundo, uma desportiva em estrada e uma moto de motocross para quem souber. Só troco quando aparecer outra no mercado com o dobro da potência e metade do peso.

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

A T7 é uma moto incrivel...esta 450MT como diz um amigo meu é "a T7 dos anões sem dinheiro"...e eu acho que está muito bem :D

[@pawelwolski1316]

Last week my friend and I picked up two Mt450s here in Poland. I put about 500 km of some local riding around here. Like the bike a lot for all the reasons you mentioned. The one "disappointment" is the short gearing, we want to use it for ADV rides, so that means some highways (the Honda Rally 300 once "fixed"/modified, especially suspension was the first choice prior to the MT coming out, I have one in Indonesia, love it up to 90 km/h). At 125 km/h I am looking at 7000 plus RPM. Front 15T sprocket on order. The exhaust is almost too loud, possibly I am too old. Build quality.........yes it looks good. I got unlucky, my clutch lever was installed without the pivot bushing pressed into the lever casting. I removed the paper thin skid plate for first quick oil change, the lower frame rails sprung out by few cm. To get the plate back on I had to use a strap to bring the frame back closer together. Rear axle nut had 270 deg very thin metal sliver from the factory. I have the little CFMOTO Papio 125 in Indonesia, most bolts are super tight, one internal fearing bolt was stripped out in the frame, the factory installed longer bolt with a nut on it..........Last observation, the off idle is snatchy, on/off. It's all this Euro whatever number it is now. I adjusted the throttle cable (was very loose from the factory), that improved the situation somewhat. A nice ecu tune will fix the rest.

[@mnap89]

Cześć, zastanawiam się właśnie na jakimś motocyklem tego typu. Myślałem o CRF300Rally ale obawiam się, że ona jest trochę za słaba na asfalt. 450MT obawiam się, że może być trochę za ciężki w terenie. Szczególnie dla osoby, która nigdy w terenie nie jeździła. Obecniee jeżdżę na MT07. Skąd jesteś?

[@pawelwolski1316]

@mnap89 Krakow, but I moved out of Poland 40 years ago. As I said I have the Rally 300. You have to spend $2500 to fix the suspension, exhaust, modify the intake snorkel and a good tune. At that stage u have 155kg/110 kmh (for high ways) dual purpose bike. I love it in Indonesia, here after the mt07 I think you would be disappointed. You really have to ask yourself what will you really do with the bike. For me for Poland, Europe most riding is done on pavement. The "dirt" riding is gravel roads, some dirt in Romania.......This is why I went with the MT450. It's almost fully equipped to go adv riding. It has really nice suspension, good power, it's comfortable, looks and sounds really good. The quality is not 100% Japanese, but it's close. The short 6th gear...........15T sprocket will help here, I will do as little highway riding as possible at what looks like somewhat relaxed 110-120 kmh. For this style of adv riding, the 195 kg in most situations is ok or actually a benefit. Sure it would have been awesome if it was 170kgs. Honda refuses to build Rally 450, so it's MT450 for me. The 27.7k pln out the door helps as well.

[@rafaswierczynski]

nice. i have plan to buy it too. waiting for more videos about mt

[@SousasAdventure]

Ora aí está!! O que interessa é uma compra informada!! E infelizmente 90% das pessoas compra por moda… acredito que nas tuas aulas estás farto de os ver 😅 🔝video 😉✌️ Abraço👊

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

São mais que muitos, ahahah xD

[@Kelly-oq9nh]

Great to see you ! Love your videos and am looking forward to the riding and review of the CF Moto. BRAP from Washington State USA !

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

Right on! Thanks for sticking around, Kelly 😄

[@mikeisland7382]

Congratulations on the new ride. Great comments on the pillion position.

[@lescautpatrice8468]

Waiting for mine, ordered in April. But no delivery date yet (here in France) ✌️ to you all

[@rilke_roca]

Waiting for mine here in México! looking forward for your content about it!

[@mysticalpotato447]

super excited to see all the content we will get with the new machine! congrats on the bike

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

Thanks man! I will post some videos ASAP :D

[@ivoaferreira]

O valor da mota é incrível e vai trazer muita malta nova para o segmento!!…Agora é pedir emprestada a nova himalayan e fazer a comparação

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

Assim que conseguir quero experimentar uma coisa dessas também :D

[@sergiotalves]

👌, também gostei da mota, pesno que um contra que tem é não trazer os crashbars de origem.

[@grahamrowe6278]

As always, interested in what you bring and what you have to say.

[@PeterR0035]

Nice bike for not too much money! ❕ QUESTION ❗; could you make a video about setting up your suspension? static, preload, damping, rebound,... ? THANKS! ♥

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

I will do that FOR SURE. Its a subject I am very passionate about :)

[@PeterR0035]

@@OFFroadOFFcourse 🙂 thank you so much for all these free and great video's you make & the contact with viewers! ♥

[@andreyderman4765]

very intresting... please share as much as you can

[@tomtom8552]

Looking forward to see future modifications and what the bike is capable of. Is it possible for You to get access to the service manual? id like to know more about the proper maintenance of the bike.

[@untamedsmiles1338]

Thank you

[@pacobb1351]

Congratulations on your videos!! Questions. At 120 km/h, any vibrations? How many rpm? Thanks! I'm looking forward to watching your next vídeos.

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

That engine is very very VERY smooth.... people complain that at 100kph you have 6000rpms, but thats nothing for that engine. The redline is at 9000 and even at the redline the bike seems to be asking for more (and this is coming from someone who hates making bikes "scream")

[@ourspanishadventures]

Good to see you again

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

Its good to be back!

[@robotech1990]

Hola Diego!! I have question for you. A long time since I saw you by the way. - Is it true that at low speeds ,low gears, the cf Moto and KTM s the throttle response is like very agressive even if you try to do a light acceleration? Is t true that it can be fixed with good reprogramming? - Hope the CF 450 rides will be long and full of joy. I'm waiting for this new content specially if you tell us how reliable is the bike through the time. Cheers from Chile !!

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

Hey man! I didnt feel anything weird about the throttle response BUT keep in mind that I am used to ride lots of different bikes, so these little details dont bother me usually...i dont even notice them :o Of course every bike feels slightly different here and there.... Probaly all it takes is a couple of days with the bike to get used to its throttle/clutch/whatever :) happy rides!

[@ricardovieira3385]

A minha chega no início de agosto porque quis cinzenta ! Mas vai levar o pinhão de 15 :)

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

Parabens pela compra! Depois tambem vou brincar ca relação da transmissao mas para ja nao me incomodou nada

[@alex-rx2vu]

i love this man, always a pleasure to look at & listen, in which region do you make tours? thank you

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

Ahaha thanks man 😂 Most of my tours begin in Santarem (Portugal) and loop north :) If you check my website its all there :)

[@alex-rx2vu]

@@OFFroadOFFcourse thanks, i will do so...best day

[@giuliobuccini208]

What can be done to take out some top weight? Lithium battery, muffler... maybe alu handlebars? What else? Maybe 6-7 kilos?

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

thats something I've been thinking a lot about, but without the bike its hard to reach conclusions... lithium battery, short license plate holder and perhaps decatting the exaust are the best/most obvious places do save 6-7kg, but beyond that it will be hard. I need to look and strip the bike to try to understand if there is something else

looking for something that might be a good al rounder, but 70% in town usage, 20% of riding on road and 10% off... not sure this would do it. but I really like it visually...will test ride it soon.

[@zwarst]

Yes ride it like you stole it, if crash do in a safe way hopefully.

[@stuarttwiss2878]

I've got mixed feelings about this change 🎉⚰️ I'm very glad you have found your unicorn, but I'm very sad never more to be following the XT after so many joyful trips watching it's ragged backside, not to mention yours. Good luck with the new bike, I'm looking forward to seeing it in October.

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

New is anways better Stuart..how many times have i told you this? 🤪

[@palamidagheo4520]

6k rpm at 100km/h is kinda a lot but if you don t do much on road it s fine i guess. for off road, a good range in second gear is important and this bike seems to have it. T7 seems better but not 2 times better because the price is almost double

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

I also thought 6k rpm would be a lot until I tried the bike.... when you experience it you will understand that 6k rpm is just where that engine "opens up". Revving up 7-8k doesnt feel wrong on that bike at all

[@wranglertr]

I hope you won't regret the quality and reliability after a while.

[@josefernandes1243]

Muitos parabéns, escolhemos a mesma mota, depois era fixe mostrares nos o setup das suspensões. Elas de origem são bem duras.

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

Sem duvida que vou fazer um video sobre isso! É dos meus assuntos favoritos! :D Parabéns e boas curvas!

[@rorrela]

Tanto la Cf moto 450mt como la nueva Royal enfield 450 himalayan son muy buenas opciones.

[@williampeiper292]

I have the Aprilia Tuareg 660 anf a CRF 250L...i am considering to change both bikes by a CFMoto 450 MT, something in the middle of those bikes...less costs an cheap bike for on and off road..but still think is too heavy for off road, i almost don't use my Tuareg on the dirt for that reason even when i know lot people say Tuareg is not too heavy for off road for me is, 205 kg is heavy, and the CFMoto is just 10kg lighter...the CFR is ok for off road but not adecuate for the tarmac, also the suspensions are so weak!!!

[@MichaelShaw206]

I had a Tuareg - good bike but I didn't bond with it because I was looking for one bike to do everything and it was too heavy for me to confidently go offroad by myself. Tried to find the unicorn and bought a Kove 405 Rally. Later, I found a great deal on a Triumph Scrambler 1200 XE, which I adore, but will never take off-road due to its weight (it's gorgeous tho). Now, I am going to sell the Kove and I'm thinking about a CRF300L as my trail bike, which essentially puts me where you are now. If I were going for one bike I would be very tempted by the CFMoto. The Kove was a bit loud and spartan for the road, but too fast and bulky for poking about the single trails. The CFMoto seems like a better compromise if you plan on using tarmac to get to the trails. That would be rough on the Kove.

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

Hello! I dont think the 450MT will feel game-changer offroad, compared to the Tuareg. Maybe sligthly lower, if even... you will lose ON-road without gaining much OFF-road. Consider instead a big dual-sport like a AJP PR7, a Suzuki DR650, a KTM690 / GASGAS 700 / Husky 701, etc :)

[@williampeiper292]

@@OFFroadOFFcourse that is question...and my doubt, because the 450MT is clearly two steps down from de Tuareg on the road, and maybe there is not so much diferent about the weight.....

[@williampeiper292]

@@MichaelShaw206 next thursday i am going to try it...but i am very sceptical about the posibility of this bike were the unicorn for me......

[@williampeiper292]

@@MichaelShaw206 carefull with the CRF 300, is a good bike, very similar to my CRF 250 but both have rabish suspensions..

[@KIM_AdventureExplorer]

Great bike. See soon I hope 🤞

[@pezis9588]

Why not the new Himalayan if slow and ease af manouvering were the key aspects in decisionmaking?

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

Cause i have a thing for twin cylinders :( And i really wanted chance...the hima 450 seems "too similar" to my xt660r...i wanted something different but inside the same segment. Now that i know the 450mt a bit better, i have to admit that that thing is not slow and relaxed at all xD

[@ikki1563]

hi, i like your approach ☺ Want to ask you to try out the new Himalayan 450, i'm hesitating between the CF and the new Himmi .... hope you'll give us your insights 🙏

[@ToFinka96]

Great Video. Thank you.

[@GiancarloBenzina]

Excuses. I don’t ride much road, but it’s better for road. LOL. It’s a good bike, and you like it. Perfect.

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

What do you mean, excuses? :P As a "dual-sport rider" i still do a lot of road... its simply not the focus of my interest. So I dont really care if the bike has "Meh" power, as long as its smooth at 120km/h. If I was a road rider I would want to have a lot of fun on-road and probably 44hp wouldn't feel enough. Thats what I mean :)

[@spacelamaglama]

could you compare it with the AJP PR7? I'm looking for that review. Thanks!

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

The PR7 is a high performance dual-sport, the 450mt is an "Ok" performance adv bike. You cant really compare them i think :/ I will try to make a video explaining these things (and also compare it with the crf300L)

[@ANDROIDSHASHNI]

if you can try to do extreame weight reduction mods (like a race bike) it completely changes how a bike feels

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

I probably wont do anything too extreme for now, but i'd love to save 10-15kg somehow...

[@ANDROIDSHASHNI]

@@OFFroadOFFcourse cheers man happy riding 🤘

[@df3yt]

Please do some economy runs, this sounds like a potential great mix of sufficient power and economy king. 150km/h is ample for most of us.

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

But forget about the 150kmh...thats well inside the red line :o 120kmh is sort of the top cruise speed

[@holstgijs1448]

Hi, I'm thinking about this bike and would like to have your opinion about duo riding? What is the confort of the passenger?

[@DeeoMaika]

3:30 Hmmm, I found the throttle a bit jerky in low speeds. Are you sure you can be precise enough?

[@JuniorDoze]

Question for the guys that know this bike already, I'm 1.80m tall and I have a KTM 390 adventure, but I don't feel comfortable on the bike, I like the bike and I did everything I could to make it more comfortable for me but still not good, and I don't want to spend so much money on a bigger bike. So, my question for you guys, does it worth to change my KTM 390 on this 450? I mean, it's an exciting bike, the geometry is different and it's a bit bigger, in terms of engine it's not big difference of course, I could try the bike first but the dealership doesn't have a demo bike in my country, so I need to wait until October, time enough to get more answers and opinions about this change. Thank you in advance!

[@juricavranovic7274]

I like your chanell very much. Thank you for the content. Fatnic cabalero rally 500 or the cf moto mt 450? I am choosing between these two for my first bike.

[@SergioLopez-oy3zd]

Esperando más video de la cfmoto

[@KostaDu]

Congrats

[@fredericooliveira-cc2mb]

Do u recomend as first bike to someone who wants to travel and explore light offroad?

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

For light offroading is great, but dont buy it until you try a crf300l or something similar first :)

[@_AVAM]

Eu ando a conduzir a CRF1100L do meu pai. A mota é excelente e potente, mas já pesa 226kg e fico pouco confortável a baixa velocidade. Estou à procura de algo mais leve. Vi várias XT660R, mas já pesam mais de 180kg e isso já me parece muito pesado. Também estou a ver a Suzuki DR650, a mota pesa 160kg, o que me parece bastante aceitável, mas existem poucas a nível nacional. Tive a possibilidade de fazer um test-ride à CRF300L e gostei muito da mota, estou a ver algumas semi-novas, a mota é leve, pesa 140kg, mas tenho receio de que não consiga acompanhar outras motas em grupos. Vi também a KTM 690 Enduro, mas os intervalos de inspeção são demasiado frequentes e a mota não é reconhecida pela sua fiabilidade. Qual seria a melhor mota para mim? Algo até 5000€, leve para poder deixar cair à vontade. Obrigado. Essa CFMoto já é demasiado pesada para o que pretendo fazer, não ando a mais que 120kmh.

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

Se o que gostas é de TT (com alguma estrada mas não muita distancia), entao sem duvida a CRF300L. Eu vou a vários eventos, passeios, etc e as CRF300L nao ficam atrás em lado nenhum... a excepção é quando metes um super-artista por exemplo numa KTM690 e ele começa a querer fugir...ai nao ha hipotese. Mas no mundo das pessoas normais, e a velocidades normais e aceitáveis em terrenos públicos, a CRF300 acompanha qualquer moto de aventura e dual sport (nas partes mais dificeis muitas vezes ate ultrapassa) :)

[@noelbrown6771]

What are your thoughts on the new Himalayan 450. Is it something you would consider?

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

Hey! Definitely something to consider!... I didnt try it yet unfortunately :/ Personally, i didnt consider the 450 for myself cause I wanted a break from the "190kg single cilinders".... I will probably only consider a single again if its below ~170kg wet

[@gmsinding1766]

did you test the new himalayan 450 out as well??

[@marcomiserocchi3064]

I want to sell my T7 and buy a CF450 because the T7 is too heavvy when I 'm off-roading alone. Is it a good idea?

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

Try it first but yeah..could be an easier bike and leave you with some extra money in the pocket :D

[@mminton88]

Looks like a Tenere copy to me..

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

I guess thats what makes it interesting :o In any case...all adv bikes are copies of themselves, wouldn't you agree? (except for the Norden901 or the ktm890, with the innovative fuel tank designs)

[@petdmi]

I would like to know the reviews and opinions of people who rode both: T7 and 450mt What do you prefer most?

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

I also have a T7 review on my channel. I like the T7 very much, but although its one of the lightest bikes in it's segment, it feels super heavy (top heavy) and tall. To me thats a bit of a deal breaker because "ease of use" is something I value above all else. The performance is great though, and its probably one of the most reliable advs out there. If you are tall (lets say 1.90m or more), than its definitely a bike to consider

[@untrainedprofessionals2374]

This bike (if it stands the test of time ) will be like the Suzuki DR650 only better. They would appear to have done some research into the market and heard what people want and made it.

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

Oh no, the dr650 is a much lighter, much more off road capable bike! This could be, maybe, the next KLR or XTZ or somethig like that :)

[@robinmendozagomez8647]

Hello why didint you choose the front high Fender? It is better for off Road right?

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

I dont think it will make a difference. Bikes with low fender raced the dakar for years (see ktm 950 / 690) :)

[@robinmendozagomez8647]

@@OFFroadOFFcourse the high front Fender is an accesorie you can buy around 100€ and easy to install regards

[@robertandersson2523]

This will be interesting :)

[@gwenolechevillard2496]

Can you please elaborate on why you went for this bike versus the KTM 690 Enduro? I own a KTM 790 Adventure R and use it for commuting, travelling on and off road. I'm looking for a lighter bike that would still be good enough on countryside roads but lighter / more manoeuvrable off-road. I was considering the KTM 690 Enduro with a rally windshield head. Curious about your opinion

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

I really didnt want a "rally bike" cause my job is to train and guide people. A ktm690 is great to ride like a hooligan but it will be boring and weird at low speeds...thats why in wanted something more "in between" a dual-sport and a big adv :) ...and cheap too xD

[@mxrabit]

Porque não a PR7?

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

Vivas! È como expliquei no video... eu nao andava á procura de uma moto com mais capacidade de offroad, andava á procura de novos desafios. Se a minha vida fosse andar livre como um passaro nos terrenos e velocidades q me apetecessem, se calhar comprava uma PR7 ou uma KTM690...mas sendo instrutor e guia, entao quero é algo que me ofereça entretenimento a qualquer velocidade :o

[@ThePolcari69]

Bom conteúdo força!

[@maxflight777]

Same weight as an XT650 maybe, but heaps heavier than a Husqvarna 701.

[@tuanoful]

I love that Triumph, KTM, RE and MF Moto are making good adv bikes that are not HUGE or super expensive, but, BUT, I need to see a year from now how these chinese bikes hold up. I have experience with 2, and they are super bad

[@eskerinola5845]

I am in a relatively same situation. I have a KLR 2014 with the same power and weight than the 450MT. However since the engine of the KLR is 650cc, the KLR goes at less RPM than the 450MT @ the same speed. I wonder if it would be a real upgrade going from the KLR to the 450MT. Cheers.

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

I dont think it will clearly feel like an upgrade... the CFMoto will offer a different experience, but not necessarily a better one =/

[@sbsb4995]

Good review.

[@massimocolli3687]

Hello! And what about the new Beta Alp 4.0?!

[@Super-Sal]

What's your experience with pillion riding on it on same terrain

[@OFFroadOFFcourse]

So far we only rode on road.. The ergonomics are decent, but not for looooong rides (my wife is 1.68m)

[@louispaulter8733]

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