Let's Get Started in the MB-339 by Indiafoxtecho (DCS 2.8)

[@Pete_Harris]

Great to see you in DCS Chris! I'm a fan of the 'older' jets in DCS the F-86 being my favourite. The MB-339 looks great 😎

[@cgaviator]

I think I prefer the external model of MSFS but everything else is tip top!

[@cgaviator]

Just need to remember the basics again with DCS adding so much detail!

[@speedbird8326]

Flew the MB326H during my RAAF pilot training years ago. Delightful aircraft to fly. The cockpit is quite similar to the 339 and brings back memories of limited panel instrument flying "under the hood". Not too sure about the amount of buffet on takeoff or on finals in the DCS simulation. I seem to remember a very smooth ride in the 326 but quite possibly the 339 has different characteristics.

[@cgaviator]

Could just be how I'm flying it lol!

[@speedbird8326]

@@cgaviator No, your rotate and approach speeds looked normal, I just think they have overdone the flap buffet in the simulation with the caveat that the 339 may be significantly different to the 326.

[@cgaviator]

@@speedbird8326 not to mention the tail strike! lol, but all copied, I think it's too buffety also

[@speedbird8326]

@@cgaviator pffft, who needs a tail anyway 🤣🤣

[@cgaviator]

@@speedbird8326 😂

[@caiazzo123]

Absolutely love this aircraft and it flies like a dream. Fantastic video.

[@cgaviator]

Thanks 👍🏻

[@jasonbrackstone]

Great video Chris, love this little plane was thinking of getting the msfs one but you sold me on the dcs version. Great landing too even under fire.

[@cgaviator]

Lol, thanks! It’s great when things like that happen. Finally got to use the secondary effect of rudder to ‘control’ the landing. Did you see that 727 or something that lost its ailerons due to surface to air missile? Crazy stuff

[@Skinny-me]

Wow, good job getting that tjing down without ailerons! Thanks Chris! :)

[@cgaviator]

Lol, yeah thanks! Secondary effect of rudder helps a lot!

[@josefwitt9772]

I've enjoyed my first few sorties in this plane. It's nice to have a new trainer, and it has some good light attack capabilities too. A buddy just got it as well, so we're going to try to have a bit of discipline and practice flying properly on occasion. Looking forward to seeing a few of the known issues fixed, especially making the flight director work and fixing a nosewheel durability problem. My only criticisms - the mirrors are pretty nasty when they're turned off, and a few clicks are unexplainably left mouse vs the standard right mouse. Overall a really nice release from IFE and I have no doubt that their customer-focused methods will shine in that community as they have in MSFS. Maybe in a few years we could see the 346 in both sims as well? A guy can hope!

[@cgaviator]

An M346 attack variant would be ‘da 💣!’ 😄 They are good at following through with updates so I’m sure they’ll get it tip top in no time.

[@narcos5598]

Really enjoyed this one, and 339 is pretty well simulated 👍

[@cgaviator]

Agreed

[@pe1pq]

I have DCS and I like the MB-339, would be a lot of fun flying this in game. I know that it is possible to set up flight controls in this game, I see people have done so, but I can't I have tried but it's seems to be out of my grasp. I liked the video, thank you for posting.

[@cgaviator]

Setup the hardware or configure the axis?

[@pe1pq]

@@cgaviator Glad you asked, the last thing I remember; is, I was sitting in the Mustang you know looking around getting some seat time finding what I needed to start on the joystick setup, then all of a sudden BAM I was killed just sitting there on the ramp. Also, as far as I know, it is impossible to pop in and out of the sim to look up and or fallow a KZbin tutorial. So that was it for me too old too tired to jump thru hoops. I do enjoy watching your videos and others playing the game. Cheers.

[@cgaviator]

@@pe1pq shame, though a couple of pointers. I don’t fly multiplayer often or if at all. So I don’t get shot all the time! 😂 The sim is actually quicker to load than MSFS I find. The flight controls are a pain. Go to Escape menu (or from Home Screen) and go control setup. Set Axis (buttons underneath) and make sure there aren’t multiple peripherals conflicting with pitch and roll etc. It’s DCS’s major downfall is the lake of commonality across aircraft types. Each model needs setting up separately

[@Parabueto]

@@pe1pq Personally I find binding controls in DCS a lot easier than in flight simulator because you have all of your controllers sat side by side so you can keep track of the same input across keyboard, joystick and throttle simultaneously if you want. Learning what you need to bind though can be tricky. For modules that have been out for a while there are "Chuck's guides" which have a suggested diagram of controls to bind to a HOTAS. then it's just a case of going through what you want to do with the plane and putting appropriate buttons in if you need them. It's a bit of a hassle to set up for each aircraft as opposed to FS where you can just jump in and go, but because the planes in DCS have different controls in the cockpit and this is modelled, I prefer it- you don't get a situation for example where nozzles on a harrier for example are bound to a cowling flap and if you have a twin throttle and want to fly a twin engine aircraft again you have to change the control settings every time you change aircraft. Wheras DCS has efort before you fly but then you can forget it and each plane responds organically. You can alt tab out or use a fullscreen window with a second screen to click out of DCS (Although doing the latter minimises DCS, something that only crept in a couple months ago). I often have tutorials up on a second screen.

[@pe1pq]

@@Parabueto Thank you for your reply, I may try again this coming winter, although I live in Florida. Lol. Truth I am waiting on my new HOTAS to arrive then, well I well need some time with that, so let's hope for the best. Cheers.

[@Eiael]

Yes, just like me! drop all your stores over Las Vegas 😄what would we do without our excellent instructors? 😋

[@cgaviator]

😂

[@urgentsiesta7606]

Good to see you in DCS! MSFS looks fantastic but the flying is decidedly MEH for anything other than airliners. Would be great to see you doing some of your navigation runs on one of the DCS Maps! I uninstalled the -339 from MSFS once the Hawk was out. Tried it again the other day and uninstalled it again. I'll definitely get the DCS version though - like you said, the flying is ever so much more satisfying, and the Pew-Pew keeps things interesting.

[@cgaviator]

Yes, I’ll have to figure out some interesting routes! Need to avoid spending hours coding on the mission editor! 😂

[@Ramsay58]

It looks a nice aircraft, I already have the L-39 and C-101 trainers, so this was on my radar to buy. I decided if it had a 20% launch discount, I'd pick it up, but at full price (£50), it's just too pricy for me and I still have the Mirage F1 to work through. Guess I'll pick it up later - only flaw I see from a gameplay perspective is it's lack of Air to Air missiles.

[@cgaviator]

You wouldn’t go air to air with this, even defensive I’d rather just eject and go pick up my tie! 😂 It is very pricey for what it is

[@symie8]

You would gave loved the Hawk when it was in DCS. Great fun 👍🏻 This is not an aircraft I'll but. Already have the L-39 and C-101 so I've got the basic trainer side covered. Plus having 2 players flying the same aircraft is great fun, especially if you're in the trainers seat and can make it Mary Hell for the trainee 😁😆 Nice vid as well, though as an ex-armourer I'd have a few choice words for you after those releases 😀 😉

[@cgaviator]

Haha, yeah! I’ve debriefed myself and the learning continues! 😂

[@symie8]

@@cgaviator over in the Officers mess having tea and medals no doubt 😉

[@cgaviator]

@@symie8 of course, I walked away from the landing, what more could I ask for!? 🤣

[@shuntera]

No need to remove nose wheel steering, it shuts itself off at a certain speed (70?)

[@cgaviator]

Interesting, experience? The checklists I had said off so never checked it switching off automatically. Thanks 👍🏻

[@jep1103]

Been out a while and still no autopilot Nice review

[@cgaviator]

Not sure if the MB339 has autopilot? Maybe it’s only a flight director. But then it’s been so long since I flew this! 😅

[@Lonefit-101]

Fun video CG. I just tried it out tonight too. Pretty stable airplane for form flying and IFR stuff. I’m curious how it compares to the Hawk that you flew. Power and performance wise. Is it about 80% of what a T.1 can do? Does it feel similar in weapons delivery? Love seeing how much your channel has grown. Great content 👍🏻

[@cgaviator]

Thanks, I’m glad it’s turning out to be popular. The hawk was a different beast, no heavy weaponry so it was always much much more nimble. I did drop 4kg practice bombs and shot a few rounds though and you never forget the smell!

[@rutchiemctavish]

haha "never make an approach on an ILS to an airfield that is defended by enemy" That's gone in my pilots notes lol

[@cgaviator]

It wasn’t in mine until now! 😂

[@boggy8557]

Thank for the vid, enjoyed that one. I have the MSFS version so I'm not sure if it is worth getting it in DCS as well. What's your opinion, worth buying if you already have the MsFS version?

[@cgaviator]

If you wanna drop the 💣 then it’s worth getting. If you want to your the world and do aeros then stick with MSFS

[@kozak1789]

I know I'm late to the party by years at this point...for selective jettison master arm on, select which pilons you whish to jettison(green light) and then press on the button itself for at least 3 seconds

[@cgaviator]

@@kozak1789 long time, not sure I’m afraid

[@oli4330]

Awesome video as always, do you feel like the sense of speed is slower compared to MSFS?

[@cgaviator]

Maybe, though it could be because of more sparsely populated scenery perhaps?

[@oli4330]

@@cgaviator yes could be, just got that sense of speed more in msfs but like you say, could be the scenery difference

[@boggy8557]

It's a DCS thing, I am convinced that the workd scale is slightly off which makes the speed seem really slow. That and most maps havent got as much detail as MSFS that gives you that sense of speed.

[@oli4330]

@@boggy8557 yea I think it feels slower too even on the more built up areas it feels like you aren't going quick.

[@boggy8557]

@@oli4330 yep, I tried highlighting the world scale thing to ED but its falling on deaf ears.

[@d1d1ka29]

Fusing setup when? hah Good job with the video though.

[@cgaviator]

Lol, thanks! Looking forward to getting re-acquainted with DCS

[@d1d1ka29]

@@cgaviator hah sorry, I didn't realise you wrote that in the title already. Duuuh. Anyway, keep the videos coming, hope they bring you some income. I'm always excited to watch new videos from you.

[@cgaviator]

@@d1d1ka29 no, you’re good! I thought about it, and figured I’d change the title to highlight my error and make it more interesting.

[@launchsquid]

you forgot to set the fusing, everything was a dud

[@cgaviator]

You got it! I’m a 🔧 😂

[@ukar69]

Being shot at is what you get for ignoring ATC! Nellis is harsh but fair.

[@cgaviator]

😂 Absolutely! D’ems the rules!

[@Ecthaelyon]

The quality and ongoing bugs, etc, of the model does not reflect the price tag at all, it simply does not warrant $60 US, the fact it is never part of a DCS sale speaks volumes. I trialled it giving it a fair go, if it impressed me I would have bought it on the spot, but alas. Personally I found the C101 to be much better quality and far more immersive. These are just my own humble opinions. One man's beer is another man's wine as they say.

[@cgaviator]

I would agree, it’s much better in MSFS

[@RedBravo65]

LOL. You put the ground targets too close to the runway and they were shooting at you because you were within their engagement zones.

[@cgaviator]

Yeah, I figured, still fun though lol!

[@GOZR]

easier because there is no atmospheric good physic lol.. they just hang

[@cgaviator]

What just hang? Sorry, it’s been a while since this video! 😅

[@julkakornelcia4696]

Witam, no niestety jak na płatny mod , jest chyba za wcześnie sprężyny w zawieszeniu dalej kanciaste, samolot kołuje w powietrzu, opony dalej na max napompowane, nity samolotu nic wspólnego z lotnictwem -kadłub do poprawek klapy nie z tego chyba modelu , lot samolotu fajny ale technicznie mod do ........................????

[@cgaviator]

Yeah, as far as DCS goes, this was over priced

[@Flight231]

Unless they have improved this sim, the avionics just dont work properly! Sorry...No ADF/VOR? I like the graphics but avionics are SH...!

[@cgaviator]

You mean there are no ADF/VOR beacons? Who uses ADF these days anyway! 😂

[@grissomplays2546]

Of course there's ADF/VOR.

[@cgaviator]

@@grissomplays2546 lol, I’m misunderstanding the question then. I don’t use the beacons so much 😅

[@urgentsiesta7606]

Not sure where you heard that - there are ADF and VOR all over the maps and in the aircraft that should have them, and they function fine. The Russian aircraft even have their own version which only works on Russian airfields.

[@cgaviator]

@@urgentsiesta7606 figured as much but didn’t want to assume. Thanks for clarifying 👍🏻