Kosei Inoue VS Shohei Ono : Who has the better O Soto Gari???

[@Chadi]

Some of you asked if I can use japanese background music, what do you think about this music? Should I keep using it?

[@Chadi]

@all that is left thanks man!

[@halimsiad7346]

It's very good choice there are too many nice instrumentals out there.

[@jrmbayne]

It was good, maybe a little softer in the next one, or voice a little louder?

[@counterkidnapping1737]

Have to vote for Kosei Inoue. Has more experience fightin bigger opponent.

[@pablorisco1863]

Great video pal!

[@christopherallan4298]

I knew Inoue was one of the greats, but I hadn't really watched that much footage of him (I'm relatively new to the sport). Watching his moves in this video was a real treat; those o sotos were absolutely beautiful.

[@Chadi]

I agree, he is appreciated from afar, it's nice to take the time and shed some light on his techniques

[@Bluejay445]

🐬 1:12

[@miguelespejel2462]

When Ono extend the leg his opponents are already half thrown. He starts more like an osoto otoshi but since he extends leg appears as osotogari. For me this is a hybrid technique

[@Dwebster0203]

That's what I thought looked like Osoto-otoshi first

[@miguelespejel2462]

@@Dwebster0203 the mechanics are more like osoto otoshi but technically speaking is an osotogari after all, but honestly the terminology doesn't matter, his technique is different than any traditional osoto if you go into details he does little things different and small details is where everything matters.

[@halimsiad7346]

I think inoue was a top notch elite compare to ono with all due respect Ono is the best right now But inoue is a legend

[@Chadi]

100%

[@rickfinsta2951]

@chadi I know this is an old video but I've been studying Ono's Osoto Gari and one thing I have noticed about his straight-on method, is he starts from a left-foot-forward stance. Watch how he switches hits feet, replacing the attacking foot by bringing his supporting foot backwards, exploding off of the support leg as soon as it hits the mat to drive his body up into his opponent's chest. At that point, the armpit grip comes down, and his Tsurite elbow comes up and begins driving downwards sharply. I think that is why he can get in so quickly and forcefully.

[@sylvainfrenchsvp5018]

They have two different approaches to the throw and I don't think it fair to claim that one is more technical or artful than the other. Ono does not do combinations. He patiently waits for his opponent to leave an opening and he pounces on it. He doesn't get it because he is stronger, but because he has superior positioning and because his opponent's balance is compromised This may sound "less technical" but the entire purpose of the combination is to create an opening and give you the timing, so if you can read the opponent and anticipate openings, there is no point in doing combinations. A single perfect strike vs overwhelming the opponent with volume.

[@Chadi]

Thank you for your insight

[@jrmbayne]

Just found your channel. Neato breakdowns. I gusta

[@Chadi]

Thank you!

[@jrmbayne]

@@Chadi and subbed, obviously 😅

[@stan2376]

What are your top 3 favorite judo techniques? (idk why but i always want to know this from fellow judokas lol)

[@Chadi]

- Uchi Mata - Yoko Tomoe Nage - Okuri Ashi Harai Yours?

[@stan2376]

@@Chadi very interesting! especially okuri ashi harai, not many people i know would consider that one of their favorites, do you sweep many people with it?. Mine are 1) hiza guruma 2) osoto gari 3) ken ken uchi mata and a honorable mention for me is a classic tomoe nage but more in the way that urozboev does it.

[@Chadi]

@@stan2376 okuri ashi harai is extremely effective when timing is right and practiced relentlessly, it is the judo philosophy of zero strength can take down the biggest, and also a great way to engage in Ne Waza, my honourable mention would be Ko Uchi Gari the way An Changrim does it.

[@stan2376]

@@Chadi i personaly love all ashi waza techniques so i really get what you mean, okuri ashi harai just seems like the toughest one to master, so much respect to you for becoming proficient at it.

[@Chadi]

@@stan2376 thank you and good luck on your judo journey

[@furiousfellow1583]

4:33 given the footwork and the kusushi I would say that's ashi guruma, but whatever, brilliant work anyway

[@halimsiad7346]

Yamashita and teddy riner are osto gare big throwers .

[@Chadi]

Yes and adjusted it to throw in the +100 Kgs

[@ivansampaio8001]

, parabéns!

[@bensalemmohamedabderrahman5844]

i see yamashita's osoto gari as the best

[@fernandohsantos]

With the intention of being helpful, I must say that there are serious technical misinterpretations in this video. First: when Shohei Ono puts his attacking leg firmly on the ground he is actually executing an Osoto-otoshi, and not an Osoto-gari. In fact, Ono performs the clearest demonstration of Osoto-otoshi we can find nowadays in competitions. In Osoto-gari the attacking leg does not hit the ground as a support or fulcrum. Those may look similar but are completely distinct techniques regarding their mechanical principles. Ono uses Osoto-otoshi a lot more than Osoto-gari, mainly because he is much stronger than his weight division average, allowing him to do so. Second: when Ono goes "sideways" or "perpendicular" to his opponent, he is executing Osoto-gari; now if he plants his attacking foot firmly to the ground he's switching to Osoto-otoshi, and if he changes direction to throw the opponent forward he's switching to Harai-goshi, once the leg does a major sweeping role. Even if in this case the Harai-goshi has practically no hip contact, the sweeping leg characterizes the technique. It's not Ashi-guruma, because there is no "guruma" motion (turning in a circular motion over a fulcrum), but rather the forces binary composed by the sweeping leg and the pushing lapel hand (with the sleeve hand pulling or not). Kosei Inoue's combination starting with Kosoto-gari shows more clearly how he transitions into Osoto-gari and then changes direction into Harai-goshi. Actually, this is a common three-techniques renraku-henka waza (combinations), which may also start with an Ouchi-gari instead, as Inoue also shows. Basically, kuzushi direction and the motion mechanics (guruma, harai, gari, gake) define a technique. To sum up, what we have here is Ono performing his Osoto-otoshi often, and Osoto-gari in a few situations, sometimes progressing into Harai-goshi; and Inoue performing Osoto-gari often, switching into Harai-goshi sometimes. Therefore, for this comparison, Inoue's Osoto-gari is better, and Ono's Osoto-otoshi is better.

[@Chadi]

Great insight never saw it like that

[@fernandohsantos]

Kodokan's Osoto-otoshi video on KZbin series is very instructive on this matter.

[@georgemendes6844]

There is no comparison possible. Shohei Ono's O-soto-Gari is far superior.

[@wsl3119]

These Olympic sports evolve literally everyday, it’s like asking if the current UFC champ can beat up Bruce Lee. They were the goats of their time. Did you watch the Ono Prank where he dresses up like and idiot to fight others? 😂 in case you need a good laugh

[@sgtkimkyungmin6607]

Kosei does osoto very rarely.