The KEY detail to Inoue, Ono, & Maruyama's Uchi Mata

[@DubiousDom]

The reason Japanese do that thing where they demonstrate an obvious Hane Goshi for Uchimata, is because of the added element of movement when applying it live. Tori is always circling off of the throw (think walking around seoi nage or o goshi), so in order to get a clean central lift, they practice far hip, but end up doing a normal Uchimata. It's like a sniper leading a shot on a moving target, in order to hit it you have to aim ahead of it.

[@cucciafr68]

That's why I go for the far leg (or at least try). If I overshoot then I can get harai or hane but if they move away I hit the center or the near leg. That's the idea at least.

[@ztrewqqwertz8997]

Some people also train to bring their hip, far even if it is too much, in technique Training. So if they do it in the fight they are already Shooting far enough, even if the opponent is trying to evade. As you said, it is like sniping:)

[@pauldrohan9865]

Best methodical breakdown of uchimata nuances I have seen and heard. The point about 90° to 180 ° is the heart of why many practitioners can't perform it effectively . I actually always think about 270 degrees to 360° meaning I always have the intention of makikomi even if I dont get it. I try to pin my opponents long arm hand to my left hip and spool it around me like a fishing reel. It helps me complete that 360° Circle into Uchi Mata makikomi I mentioned above. While Neil has a point....Maryama's explosion upwards is historically phenomenal...allowing him to get Ipon with a weaker hand twist.

[@arrowverse644]

i disagree with neil. maruyama shoots uchi mata from a long distance, stevens explains that on his video. so, if he didn’t had sleeve control, he would never throw. so yes, he has a good kuzushi. it’s simple: most of his uchi mata are ippon, not wazari, so i think he’s good at it and has kuzushi

[@Chadi]

Keep in mind this was 2016 in Almaty, Maruyama has evolved dramatically since then with his finishes

[@waqarkhalid7230]

I practiced uchi mata with my buddy today the way I explained it him "its like you throwing UKE assisting him to do MAE MAWARI UKEMI"

[@Chadi]

That's genius

[@cockylockridge8644]

You're still sounding raspy, but much stronger voice now. It sounds like you're getting better sensei 🙏 i cant wait to see the upcoming uploads.

[@Chadi]

Thank you very much 🙇🏻‍♂️

[@bb320]

I spoke with a Japanese judoka who explained that most demonstrations uki is stationary and it is difficult to do uchimata that way and always risk hitting opponents in the nuts. And also they account for opponents running so they always aim for the inside legs. Hence when I throw uchikomi in practice, it always looks like Hane.

[@huchhoppla]

In one of his videos, FLUID JUDO JAPAN (kzbin.info/door/bnLFPhDW74n3SZajC_JLFg) says that the Japanese do a a Hane-Goshi-style Uchi-Mata for Uchi-Komi or instructional situations, especially in Kenka-Yotsu.

[@Hagen_Music_Sounds]

And here you are, I was going to write the same thing.

[@Acedscy]

Is a relief to see you still uploading content, it means you are recovering.

[@Chadi]

I am thankfully

[@JudoHighlights2015]

Hi Chadi, Judo Highlights here. So, I live in Japan and speak Japanese and have been doing judo here for about 10 years. Let me explain your confusion regarding the naming of techniques. So what is important is WHAT the athlete is aiming for, what are they training for, and what are their unique characteristics that they apply to their techniques. Using the example of Haga, he is famous for his uchimata. If you look up all his uchi matas you will see that it clearly is an uchi mata, but it's not textbook. Then, the TV crew was probably like, "Hey Haga, can you show us your uchimata?" and this is what they got from the footage. It's a hane-goshi-ish uchimata when he practices it. It might even be Hanegoshi, but that's just how he likes to practice it and to be honest they're not so fussed with names either. To relate it to myself, I do uchi mata but when I practice nage komi it looks a little bit like this too. It's just a habit I cannot get rid of, but in randori my uchi mata doesn't look like a hanegoshi. Do I practice hanegoshi and do uchi mata in practice? No, I'm just practicing my uchimata in a way that looks like hanegoshi. I'm trying to get you to think of the word "intent". What is the athlete "intending" to do. What are they working towards? They have an image in their head, but sometimes it just doesn't work out like that, and sometimes it works out for the better with unique variations. Going back to the naming point. In English Judo techniques are really really basic, and people get bogged down on the minor details. But in Japan, there are many many more names for uchi mata. For example, ken ken uchimata, tobi komi uchimata, mawarinagara no uchimata, fukakku hairu uchimata, katate no uchimata, etc etc. Some I'm just making up, but this is how we explain little differences in the dojo. A jumping in uchimata, a rotating uchimata, a deep uchimata, or in Ono's case a head to the floor uchimata. I used to train with a guy who would just do harai goshi and call it uchi mata. He competed against Suzuki Keiji at university and I think he actually won one match. But, in randori he would go for his harai goshi and for some reason the way the person would always react would lead to an uchimata. This is getting rather long, but I just want to say that there's a lot of emphasis put behind the athlete's "intent" and the variety of possibilities and blurriness between techniques.

[@Chadi]

I see I understand completely, thank you for the extra information.

[@JudoHighlights2015]

@@Chadi thanks for the great video, and the pin! I like your point about the angle of uchimata, I think a good comparison is the Georgian uchimata like Lipartiliani which seems to me like a koshi waza. Also, a little bit of extra information, they teach the entry to uchimata and haraigoshi identically in Japan (if they ever teach it). But obviously the randori applications are much much more different. Nobody teaches hane goshi, nobody aims for it, and I've never heard of someone saying "hane goshi is one of my techniques".

[@jerimiahkindrick5669]

Excellent breakdown. Thank you. 🙏🙏🙏

[@Chadi]

Thank you 🙇🏻‍♂️

[@jamesbarringer7935]

Very helpful explanation of the ashiwaza/koshiwaza difference. Nicely done, thanks!

[@kananisha]

This is the way it was taught to me. 90 entry create the torque, "plant " the UKI.

[@Chadi]

You have a great sensei

[@kananisha]

@@Chadi A 7th dan and a 5th dan. 75 years between them. We were just going through this yesterday.

[@kananisha]

@@Chadi and they love your videos.

[@Chadi]

@@kananisha wow it's an honour

[@MultiJchu]

the "absence" of kusushi, no finish , on maruyama uchi mata , in my point of view, is exactly his power, because uke dosen't know clearly what his going to do. He "invades" the adversary defense like a "silent thief"

[@Chadi]

It is swift yes

[@carzoparazzo9698]

Im agree, most of the times there is no kusuhi on Maruyama uchi mata, at least not a sight one but we need to know that he is doing an uchi mata out of common contest, so he adapted and pulish, so we dont see for real how he does it

[@razorgarcia298]

IMHO the difference between Hane and Uchimata is the angle of attack as well as the rotation if the finish . If the hips are square to the opponent it's Hane if the hip is slightly offside it's Uchimata . I was fortunate to be Uke for Mr Uchimata when he came to the US . And while it's not my throw he explained it to me this way . Every Hane Goshi starts with Uchimata but not the other way around.

[@NovaEmotion]

Firstly, thank you very much for such analytics of this technique, I have been waiting for something similar about this topic for a long time. Secondly, it's not entirely clear to me why Maruyama and Ono's techniques differ from each other and from Inoue's technique, because as far as I know, he taught them Uchi Mata. In the third, personally I see that the throw performed by Maruyama is more effective, because it has an explosive character and is aimed at raising the opponent as much as possible and lifting him off the ground. And if you do a throw even on a half back and with a further roll, then this is Ippon. I would even call his style all or nothing.I also think that Maruyama's style is more technical in nature because he throws with preparation and combinations. Ono, in my opinion, makes Uchi Mata due to his physical strength. As I said, it is not clear to me why they do exactly that and in different ways, because the Inoue technique is still different from both of them.

[@JD-ww2ri]

Ono's Uchi Mata is an superb combination of strength and technique.

[@Chadi]

Judo is an art that's why each will have their own expression, i think Ono comes in with his leg straight hence no hoisting up the air and yanks down with sleeve and lapel and Maruyama flexes his leg up with the entry and it looks much more refined

[@Bl2EAKIN]

This is a 2 years old comment but I'd like to give my thoughts anyway. Inoue continues to work with the hands mid throw, while uke is already lifted. He pulls through with sleeve in and pushes the lapel in order to turn uke's back to the ground.

[@felixkoniger6378]

I got some info about the Japanese Sumo practise and the way they practise a lot of their throws is also 90° and this made my uchi mata way better since i kind of do it sumo style since then

[@Chadi]

Awesome

[@DareToWonder]

Right, you rotate the same direction your thigh is moving in when Uke is going in that direction. IF not its very hard to do it. Not a lot of lifting in uchi mata either. Thats the important thing to remember.

[@cristim9779]

You are right! That is the secret trick behind uchi-mata! I noticed it when waching Keiji Suzuki's uchi-mata on Superstar Judo. He showed that you should kick your leg straight up but when showcasing it and in competition he picked uke up on the side of the thigh. That is when i realised something wasn't right. So you can imagine why they show hane goshi and all sorts of demonstration uchi mata instead of the real, true uchimata, if they are not showing it even when they are getting paid hefty.

[@Chadi]

I wouldn't be surprised that tgey kept details from us

[@xworks7]

Amazing video as always, Chadi, we agree on the misconception of uchi mata and hane goshi, so many people saying that uchi mata is a hip throw, or saying that the final form of the leg is the difference... For me you can see the difference easier between Ashi guruma and Harai goshi, it's about that point of rotation/lifting by Tori... I remember my early days of training, I fall in love with uchi mata but my performance of the technique was poor, so I became obsessed at that level that I study all the small details, and for sure uchi mata needs judo mastery, and mastery on technique requires a lot of work not just in the tatami... Sadly, when people only focuses on "winning" they say... "Who cares, if is Ippon...", well, that's not bad at all, I love go to Shiai, but we must preserve the knowledge and development from Kano Shihan. Have a good day, and keep sharing with us your research!!

[@Chadi]

Thank you very much pablo🙇🏻‍♂️

[@ريو-ض8ض]

Hi Pablo, I hope you will reply. I am facing the same problem that I was facing. I have been training in the Uchi Mata for more than a year and a half, and until now I cannot throw it in the randori unless the player is weaker than me. I searched for all the details and tried to improve it, but I could not. What do you advise me to do?

[@alessandrofranceschini9115]

The reason is that in principle uchi mata is an ashi waza, but it can be also applied with its koshi waza variation.

[@Chadi]

Agreed

[@DareToWonder]

yeah when you explain uchimata like that its more clear why its a leg throw and not hip throw.

[@Chadi]

Exactly

[@menopimezzo]

Finally found the judo channel I've been looking for a while now

[@Chadi]

Thank you for watching 🙇🏻‍♂️

[@DareToWonder]

Great video Chadi, thanks for doing it even when under the weather. hope you recover quick!

[@Chadi]

Thank you Liran🙇🏻‍♂️

[@highchamp1]

Also explains Kyuzo Mifune's resuscitation techniques from the previous video.

[@Chadi]

Groin resuscitation

[@highchamp1]

@@Chadi A good example of possible "dangerous" techniques (combatives)

[@LêHiếuTô]

Well, Inuoe himself made a video for his uchi for kodokan, you can still look it up. And he always use his hips (except for the ken ken) and he said that his uchi has a lot of hane goshi elements in it.

[@tarekmohamed3263]

ألف سلامه عليك يا شادى. .great video as always

[@Chadi]

Thank you 🙇🏻‍♂️

[@78my9]

Your voice sounds like Clint Eastwood's now😁. Great vid by the way👍.

[@Chadi]

HAHAHA I'll take it as acompliment

[@CHAP_SEC]

I'll give it a go tomorrow at training 🙂

[@Chadi]

Awesome

[@ericlee1226]

I read somewhere that the japanese judoka use Hane as if it is uchimata as they don't see a difference in practice, but they want to save the Uke's groin.

[@Chadi]

100%

[@DareToWonder]

ok i think i figured some of it. kind of like when you do a sasei and block the leg and use your arms to rotate the upper body and throw someone... so in uchi mata you use your leg to have your hands rotate the person over the axis of your leg from the inside more easily. thats how i view it now.

[@DareToWonder]

might not be sasae, could be another throw alltogheter. lockdowns have made me even more rusty in judo!

[@Chadi]

Could be

[@free99x]

My Sensei is well known in Japan. His brother is the head coach of one of the top universities in Japan and his Sensei was Yoshimi Osawa. For Hane Goshi, they call it the “dog peeing” throw because the application and finish looks like a dog peeing. Whereas uchi mata, they want to ensure the leg is lifted so the entry is such that the bent leg lifts Uke however the key is the finish where Uke is then thrown forward and Tori’s reaping leg then finishes in the typical uchi mata fashion and does not look like a dog peeing. Japanese players know the difference and will never confuse hane goshi with uchi mata although they will say that initially it looks similar. So the key is to look at the finishing position.

[@billywalendom]

great channel

[@bruceparker6142]

From some of those demonstrations it seems that ballroom dancers have a great base for judo😁

[@Kitajima2]

NFL linemen do pilates and ballet. I know you're joking, but dancers are incredible specimens

[@Chadi]

Arnold Schwarzenegger worked with a ballet dancer for his posing

[@dianecenteno5275]

Nice tip! Thanks

[@Chadi]

You're very welcome Diane

[@DareToWonder]

5"09 Ahhh! The great Hane-Goshi or Uchi-Mata debate again!

[@wsl3119]

It’s too minute to notice, I like Travis’s description:” there is no difference” 😂 all uchi mata

[@Chadi]

Too minute to notice but makes a world's difference

[@johannesalder8422]

Inue is a righty and Marujama is a lefty. The body positions for opposing and same side stances are very different and looking at marujamas feet he is well turned in and lifting with the back of his leg initially but the body positions from an opposite stance mean a different angle of attack

[@bb320]

Also in traditional Hane, the thigh is used to spring uki up

[@aasserelzoghby6781]

Yes

[@silvanotelemoto2360]

Excelente 👏👏👏👏

[@kempbrown4402]

Neil Adams has excellent instructionals

[@Marcnshae2011]

Thank you for bringing this up! Did you ever get an answer from the Japanese?

[@echsos]

For this sideways entry is the tsurite pulling uke to your rear/back to ensure they're loaded while you lean and the hikite trying to pull their arm straight and across you?

[@mich15smith45]

You showed a lot of atemi waza in the past but i was wondering if their was any defense in judo. For example, is there any judo or jiu jitsu defense to a groin kick?

[@Chadi]

I think they are your regular karate blocks

[@larryzach7880]

Check out kime no Kata

[@moonbrian1576]

한판tv 언급을 하시네 조 쌍둥이 영상 오랜만이네요

[@arrowverse644]

YEEESSS

[@Chadi]

🤙🏻

[@dannehcocoa3445]

What do you mean by 90 degrees?

[@DareToWonder]

6:26 I think they don't say the diffrence because... wow that is mind boggling!

[@Chadi]

It sure is

[@DareToWonder]

@@Chadi wow now i can't stop thinking about this...

[@Chadi]

@@DareToWonder the most intriguing technique

[@DareToWonder]

which? uchi or hane?

[@Chadi]

@@DareToWonder Uchi Mata

[@personperson7763]

It looks like shiko

[@нуржанБОЛАТ-в1г]

Есть другой канал на русском?

[@shayantheunworthy3390]

My good man, what's been happening to your voice???

[@Chadi]

I tested positive

[@shayantheunworthy3390]

@@Chadi 😢 despite living in this situation for 10 months, I'm totally shocked right now. Please stay strong brother❤️.

[@Chadi]

Thank you brother

[@marksoberay2318]

Geez not much head diving rule enforcement

[@DamianIronside]

Are you Venom?

[@hercules9987]

I think best uchi mata it’s Saito San

[@Chadi]

I like Inoue better